I think I'm at a bit of a loss here.
I'm going to be changing my system soon. So I've been looking around at systemd-less distros. And the sight ain't pretty.
KDE4(pre-systemd dependency) version of PCLinuxOS might as well be called PCBloatOS. A lot of stuff, including either control center or the settings manager(two cog icons next to each other on the desktop bar, no wonder I can't tell which is which) hard-depends on webkit. And it ships with a lot of crap like Skype or Flash out of the box. But then again, it's appealing to first time Linux users, and I guess it'd be good at that. I may try the LXDE version, but I have a bad feeling about it since as bloaty as KDE is, most of it wasn't KDE's fault and I'm afraid LXDE version will have it too.
Void is void of documentation. Also, the default menu for Openbox has exactly ONE program that comes with the system, and that's Firefox. Yup, can't even open a terminal without editing the menu file outside of OB and then coming back. This clearly shows that they don't care at all about *box workflow. Probably too busy wth tiling, cause that's what all cool kids do. Also, not sure if it's just a live boot issue, but xbps always reported Lumina needing exactly 7MB more than I had free.
Devuan is behind schedule. It'll probably be a strong contender for best distro around(not just systemd-less) once it's done, but right now there aren't even security updates.
I also considered installing Debian Wheezy and then transforming that into Devuan, but trying to install a media player convinced me against it. A bunch of VLC and Mplayer packages were missing. On the other hand the players for KDE(Dragon Player) and GNOME(forgot the name) are there, but they depend on their environments, which depend on systemd.
Elementary is listed on Distrowatch as systemd-less but it's not.
I'm not even touching Arch because my friend does that, and he says that systemd is pushed into dependencies of more and more stuff and frankly he's considering installing Gentoo because he reckons it'll take less time for everyday use.
To see why I haven't tried Manjaro, please set your system clock back a bunch.
So it seems like all I have left is waiting for Devuan, installing something advanced like CRUX/Slax/Gentoo, or going BSD. Although I haven't tried Antix, Puppy and possibly LXDE-based PCLOS.
Any remarks or suggestions?