[IC] GREEN SCREEN SA Keycaps == Your Computer in the 1980s

[admgc]

Here's what y'all have requested over the past few months that I'm working on:

- A 1u R1 \| and a 1.5u R2 backspace for hhkb/infinity style layouts
- "original homing key homage" kit of nubbed and deep dish D and K caps
- An R3 CTRL and a R3 Stepped CTRL
- Perhaps a "Green Screen" or "Amber Screen" novelty key
- Start taking HHKB/660c boards into consideration (have to research this a bit)
- Offering the mods and alphas as separate packs
- Ergodox kit (If only for my good pal Tony)

[admgc]

One thing I know is going to be a problem for me (time-wise) is finishing the novelties well. I could use some help from the community. Harlw, you had previously offered to help out so I'll ask you first... think you could run with the novelties?

[simonyunhe]

Glad to hear you back!

[Steezus]

Here's what y'all have requested over the past few months that I'm working on:

- A 1u R1 \| and a 1.5u R2 backspace for hhkb/infinity style layouts
- "original homing key homage" kit of nubbed and deep dish D and K caps
- An R3 CTRL and a R3 Stepped CTRL
- Perhaps a "Green Screen" or "Amber Screen" novelty key
- Start taking HHKB/660c boards into consideration (have to research this a bit)
- Offering the mods and alphas as separate packs
- Ergodox kit (If only for my good pal Tony)

Welcome back, glad to see you'll be apart of the completion of this set.

[MikeTheTiger]

OP is back, y'all :-)

That was a busy few months. Sorry for the mysterious disappearance. Updates to come shortly.

Awesome!! This is one of the few sets that I need badly! Glad you're back!!

[harlw]

OP is back, y'all :-)

That was a busy few months. Sorry for the mysterious disappearance. Updates to come shortly.

Well, well, well, look what we have here!


I'm holding out my suspicion though as this is clearly a Weekend At Bernie's situation; your account being artificially animated all of the sudden after your untimely death months ago.


This is not funny, I was at Adam's funeral!

[harlw]

One thing I know is going to be a problem for me (time-wise) is finishing the novelties well. I could use some help from the community. Harlw, you had previously offered to help out so I'll ask you first... think you could run with the novelties?

Yezzir! I'll help even though you're dead - you have a PM.

[tofgerl]

If it gets this set created, I'll take care of the kids for a while. I have a dog, that's about the same, right?

And plane tickets to Norway too? 

This time of year? Are you effin...
Hell nah, me and my dawg are goin' down south! ;p

[Bumbibear]

Here's what y'all have requested over the past few months that I'm working on:

- A 1u R1 \| and a 1.5u R2 backspace for hhkb/infinity style layouts
- "original homing key homage" kit of nubbed and deep dish D and K caps
- An R3 CTRL and a R3 Stepped CTRL
- Perhaps a "Green Screen" or "Amber Screen" novelty key
- Start taking HHKB/660c boards into consideration (have to research this a bit)
- Offering the mods and alphas as separate packs
- Ergodox kit (If only for my good pal Tony)

Is it to late to try and spark any interest in getting a International Nordic Kit aswell ?

I'd suggest DE+Nordic!

Would it require a lot of effort to get a DE + Nordic option also ?

[dgneo]

I dunno why I haven't seen this yet, but I'm LOVING this colorway. v2 is perfect IMO

Definitely interested in this!

[admgc]

Updated the original post with v1.21 images and designs. Improvements:

1. Now have (2) alpha kits, one for Green Screen, one for Amber Screen. I'm to the point where I like each colorway equally! Tried to make the Amber Screen colorway a first-class citizen by breaking it out.

2. Now have (2) numpad kits,one for Green Screen, one for Amber Screen.

3. Broke out the modifier kitso it can be used with either alpha set.

4. Added a few keys to the DNA (DNA's not ANSI) set to support HHKB Pro2 and FC660 boards. Clarification: everything here will be MX stemmed, but a few people are saying that traditionally Topre boards with newer MX-compatible stems may be coming(?). Made sure that the DNA set can be used with either alpha kit as well.

5. Added small 'Old School Homing Kit' as a tribute to the inspiration's original homing layout.

[admgc]

Thoughts on the DNA Kit v1.21: Anyone think it's getting too big and should be split out somehow? When all the non-ANSI keys are grouped like this, you can support a lot of additional boards with just a few more keys, which is nice, but at some point it may become cost-prohibitive.

[admgc]

With the orange and green being so different, this buy might be better served by offering the mods and alphas as separate packs.

Agreed, and done in updated v1.21

[admgc]

So kinda like Elemento PBT. The base kit could be the beige mods, then you choose your alphas. But how might having two alpha colors complicate the numpad/alt layouts? Would there be amber versions of every layout?

I guess this thinking would lead to a ton of child packs...and potentially over complicate things.

My thought currently is to (A) offer alpha kits and numpad kits in both green and amber, and then (B) make as many of the other kits as possible compatible with *either* set of alphas. Currently in v1.21, lots of boards can be covered with only 2 or 3 of the kits.

The boards that *would be* constrained to the Green colorway with v.1.21 would be:
- Any board not using QWERTY
- ISO 9995 (UK) boards
- International boards
- Ergodox boards

Adding the Amber colorway for all of those kits too would create a lot of child kits, yeah. Maybe a round 2 if there's interest...

[Bumbibear]

So kinda like Elemento PBT. The base kit could be the beige mods, then you choose your alphas. But how might having two alpha colors complicate the numpad/alt layouts? Would there be amber versions of every layout?

I guess this thinking would lead to a ton of child packs...and potentially over complicate things.

My thought currently is to (A) offer alpha kits and numpad kits in both green and amber, and then (B) make as many of the other kits as possible compatible with *either* set of alphas. Currently in v1.21, lots of boards can be covered with only 2 or 3 of the kits.

The boards that *would be* constrained to the Green colorway with v.1.21 would be:
- Any board not using QWERTY
- ISO 9995 (UK) boards
- International boards
- Ergodox boards

Adding the Amber colorway for all of those kits too would create a lot of child kits, yeah. Maybe a round 2 if there's interest...

This seems completely valid - and a good update!

International Green screen with DE/NO/SE is propably the kit most would be interested in - myself included

[derezzed]

y u do dis 2 me?!

My recent experience with SA taught me that I really hate stock Ducky keycaps.  I need to get these **** things off my board.  I was already feeling conflicted because I really wanted Cyrillic Yuri, but I was thinking of buying Nantucket because it looks like Nantucket might be running much sooner than Yuri and Nantucket looks really good too.  Now, you come back with Green Screen and really complicate the issue.  How long am I going to have to endure not having good caps?!    

Here's hoping Amber Screen does well enough in round 1 to merit an alt layout kit in round 2.  The lack of Colemak support for Amber Screen has probably tipped my decision in favor of Green Screen, but I'm a touch typist so nothing is set in stone.  When this set debuted, I was way more interested in Green Screen, but Amber Screen has grown on me.  Regardless, I will probably buy the other set of alphas in round 2.  It will be like getting a whole new set of caps for only the cost of alphas.  And, in case I haven't said it before, my vote is for the Terminal B novelty.  Now, when can we expect to see some renders?

[qwack]

That Green Screen colorway is beautiful. I always thought SA was ugly, but this set actually makes me want to try it.

[Pwner]

Great to see you back and that this set is moving along again!

[admgc]

This seems completely valid - and a good update!

International Green screen with DE/NO/SE is propably the kit most would be interested in - myself included

Added "Green Screen I18n Kit B" to the original post for DE/NO/DK/SE/IS support.

Bumbibear, tofgerl, and others: can you look over it to see if I got it right? Feedback welcome.

[Bumbibear]

This seems completely valid - and a good update!

International Green screen with DE/NO/SE is propably the kit most would be interested in - myself included

Added "Green Screen I18n Kit B" to the original post for DE/NO/DK/SE/IS support.

Bumbibear, tofgerl, and others: can you look over it to see if I got it right? Feedback welcome.

Given how there usually isn't many "International" sets being bought, maybe this IC should be spread on other forums to gather further buzz ?

[tofgerl]

This seems completely valid - and a good update!

International Green screen with DE/NO/SE is propably the kit most would be interested in - myself included

Added "Green Screen I18n Kit B" to the original post for DE/NO/DK/SE/IS support.

Bumbibear, tofgerl, and others: can you look over it to see if I got it right? Feedback welcome.

Eh, yeah. Looks good. I went ANSI years ago.

[tangkims]

I'm holding off on the PuLSE and Nuntucket in hopes that this gets made... please let this be made lol

[admgc]

I'm holding off on the PuLSE and Nuntucket in hopes that this gets made... please let this be made lol

Yup. I'm going to do a Massdrop poll this week to get it on their radar and will post a crosspost on/r/mk to let that community know and to get their feedback.

Will update the OP with the poll once it's live.

[lobehold]

Just saw this, great color scheme, have to say I dig it a lot.

Eagerly anticipating the group buy.

[Steezus]

I'm holding off on the PuLSE and Nuntucket in hopes that this gets made... please let this be made lol

Yup. I'm going to do a Massdrop poll this week to get it on their radar and will post a crosspost on/r/mk to let that community know and to get their feedback.

Will update the OP with the poll once it's live.

I'd get Massdrops attention as soon as there can. There are still multiple sets that they have planned including 1976 r2, Jukebox r2, RetroBlight, and I think another one that I'm missing.

[livingspeedbump]

I'm holding off on the PuLSE and Nuntucket in hopes that this gets made... please let this be made lol

Yup. I'm going to do a Massdrop poll this week to get it on their radar and will post a crosspost on/r/mk to let that community know and to get their feedback.

Will update the OP with the poll once it's live.

Definitely wont hurt, but I can tell you they are slammed with sets right now. You may also want to put this on the Launch Pad part of PMK if you can, if you get the votes there it at least opens up another doorway for you!

[admgc]

Updated OP with Ergodox kit and a not-yet-done sample of the novelty kit so I can get ICs up on MD, etc.

[admgc]

Updated OP with Massdrop poll. Vote plz!

[swimmingbird]

Updated OP with Massdrop poll. Vote plz!

voted

[cyan]

Voted too

Have been looking forward to this set!

Do you think that there will be any chance to have an Amber Screen ISO 9995 (UK) Kit to go with the Amber alphas? Whoops just seen your earlier post 

[jynxed]

Voted! I wants! 

[admgc]

Voted! I wants! 

Thanks for your interest!

[UsualSuspectXXX]

Definitely interested in the green screen when this goes live! Any chance on adding a green enter key in one of the packs?

[LeandreN]

I love how the International kit is set up.

[Jumie]

says the vote on MD was successful, when is the approximate launch date? need to prepare the wallet.

[Bumbibear]

says the vote on MD was successful, when is the approximate launch date? need to prepare the wallet.

What I see is that here is 129 votes currently.

When it hits 200 votes the gears will start spinning

[Steezus]

says the vote on MD was successful, when is the approximate launch date? need to prepare the wallet.

Most likely not for a few months. MD likes to run a set of month and there are already 3-4 SA sets in line to be ran.

[admgc]

Definitely interested in the green screen when this goes live! Any chance on adding a green enter key in one of the packs?

Yup. Can do. Also planning on adding a Planck kit.

[admgc]

says the vote on MD was successful, when is the approximate launch date? need to prepare the wallet.

Most likely not for a few months. MD likes to run a set of month and there are already 3-4 SA sets in line to be ran.

Yeah, you've got some time. I've got a few more tweaks to do and harlw is still working on novelties too.
And full disclosure, I'm not directly in touch with anyone at MD, so we're still officially in IC mode.

[UsualSuspectXXX]

Definitely interested in the green screen when this goes live! Any chance on adding a green enter key in one of the packs?

Yup. Can do. Also planning on adding a Planck kit.

Wonderful!

[Baddy126]

Any news on those novelties? I'm going to be in for one green and orange but curious about the novelty set though!

[admgc]

Updated OP with Green/Amber Screen Ortho Mods Kit (for Planck and Atomic Layouts).

[xondat]

These look great - my only concern is that there are too many kits and prices may be high, but I'm sure this has been thought of already so good job so far

[Yarbleck]

Any hope of adding ISO-FR support    ?
The set looks soooo good!

[admgc]

Any hope of adding ISO-FR support    ?
The set looks soooo good!

I've mocked up a new "I18n Kit C (FR)" child kit and will post the image to the OP shortly, but (A) I doubt that it would/will make MOQ on its own and (B) it shares very few keys with the other international layouts (those pesky num row keys with the number legends on top!) so it's not really suitable for inclusion in other kits. I guess that's why I've never seen FR support in custom caps.

It must be tough being a keycap enthusiast in FR... 

[admgc]

Updated OP:
Added green / amber Return caps to respective alpha kits for a little more color.
Broke ISO modifiers out into own kit to help meet MOQ and/or lower price of ISO mods.
Replaced Iceland with Italy in I18n Kit B (population 350K vs 60M... sorry Iceland).

[admgc]

Oh, and we hit 200 votes on MD today. Thanks for the votes! 
Keep spreading the word and maybe this can be next in line for production.

[admgc]

Definitely interested in the green screen when this goes live! Any chance on adding a green enter key in one of the packs?

 Thanks for the feedback; added green / amber 'return' keys to each respective alpha kit.

[Bumbibear]

Oh, and we hit 200 votes on MD today. Thanks for the votes! 
Keep spreading the word and maybe this can be next in line for production.

So how does this work from here ? do you get contact with Massdrop who then contact SP ?

Edit: also regarding the French kit - Based on how CtrlAlt has splitted their kits - it would perhaps be an option to kit together the French & Italian kit and then the DE,NO,SE kits ? Don't know if it will affect cost in any way .

[Yarbleck]

Any hope of adding ISO-FR support    ?
The set looks soooo good!

I've mocked up a new "I18n Kit C (FR)" child kit and will post the image to the OP shortly, but (A) I doubt that it would/will make MOQ on its own and (B) it shares very few keys with the other international layouts (those pesky num row keys with the number legends on top!) so it's not really suitable for inclusion in other kits. I guess that's why I've never seen FR support in custom caps.

It must be tough being a keycap enthusiast in FR... 

Well thanks for doing the work,
And yeah it's difficult... its go blank or go home ...