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i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:31:33 »
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If you think your NEW-monitor looks good, well you're wrong..

If you think your OLD-monitor looks bad, again you're wrong...



Color calibration will change your life..  Every monitor/laptop you will ever buy will be better.

The difference is equivalent to the first time you used an SSD computer..


It doesn't matter who you are,  or what you do,  if you use a computer,  this will make it better.


Even if a monitor comes precalibrated,  that calibration Drifts Significantly within the first 300-1000 hours, until it's just BAD.


Catch the Cheaters..

Contrast ratio is the brightest the screen can get (near white) vs the darkest (black)..

It's important, because it has a direct impact on the vividness of the display.

On an LCD panel, Depending on the color of the Backlight and the linearity of the Crystal polarizer, it may not be able to display its maximum brightness in a standardized neutral white.

This is often 1 of the methods used by manufacturers to cheat the contrast ratio specification.

They may claim 1000:1 contrast ratio,  but only if their max brightness has an off white tinge. The end result after calibration may reduce the contrast ratio anywhere from 700 to 1 all the way down to 500 to 1.



Works on TVs.

This does work for calibrating TVs as far as simple 1Dimension correction, (using TV's superficial settings menu).

However, Full 3Dimension correction table calibration requires PC or a Lutbox. The Setting will be unique to the PC.

The Lutbox should make it input independent in SOME cases, but there's no way to verify a game console, cursory verification of bluray player is possible with calibration discs.


Latest Samsung TVs work with a new Autocal software suite developed with the calman people. Not sure, but this probe may be supported.




Advantage vs the Colormunki

(Slightly faster reads)
(Slightly tighter tolerance)


Advantage vs the Spyder

(More accurate color temperature on short reads)
(More accurate reads near black, the lens pulls in more light, (IMPORTANT))
(Runs slightly cooler, leading to more accuracy)
((UNCONFIRMED) Potentially more durable design)


Disadvantage:

Doesn't last forever, within anywhere from 3 to 10 years, it will become inaccurate unless sent back to factory for readjustment, (why not just buy another one)

Nonsale price is Freakn Ridiculous , this POS costs $20 to build TOPS..

Even on sale, I feel like it's a rip-off..  but there are only 2 of these things on the market really.. and they're all overpriced, so.. pick ur poison.

Ownership might turn one into a camera gear sn0b or trigger GAS..




Lowest price ever, Deal Expired/Sold out

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X-rite i1display pro color calibration probe.

Normal price ~$220-250

20% off rakuten site wide.. Sold by Adorama (legit pro camera retailer)   

Final price after 20% off $168     =  $135 free shipping





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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:56:47 »
That is a really good price.  Thanks.  Even Amazon is $208.

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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:57:54 »
That is a really good price.  Thanks.  Even Amazon is $208.

I'm blown away..  It got to $140 in September, but only if you had the 30% ebay coupon which not everyone got.

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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 25 November 2018, 17:27:06 »
Never knew these were a thing until today.

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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 25 November 2018, 23:58:53 »
How does this compare to the Spyder pro?
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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 26 November 2018, 00:58:45 »
Just got my tracking info.  Should have it in a few days now :)

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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 26 November 2018, 01:25:55 »
This sounds real discount deal :) .... Thanks for sharing

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Re: Go buy this RIGHT NOW.. !!
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 26 November 2018, 07:12:54 »
How does this compare to the Spyder pro?

more/less the same..

The advantage is it can read a bit darker than the spyder because it has a lens in the front. Good for OLED, and more accurate scaling near black.

It also reads alot faster than the spyder,  this is useful because more accurate calibrations (increasing measurement patches) take hours, so 20-30% faster read speed is significant.. as it translates to saving hours.. (not a huge deal if you only have a few monitors, as you'd probably run it over night anyway)..

It should have a more accurate color temperature on short measurements, because it's slightly taller than the spyder, so the distance of the sensor away from the monitor will keep it cooler.

I had a spyder, and I noticed it can be +/- 0.2k  depending on how warm it gets. (warms up while measuring receive heat and light from monitor)

(don't blow a fan at it or anything, we're talking about sensor surface temp. a fan won't help)



ALLLEGEDLY (UNCONFIRMED),  this probe also lasts longer than the spyder, because the spyder has an exposed filter.. Whereas the i1Display has a tight chamber against the elements..

""  Now take that part with a grain of salt, I've seen the breakdown video, it's not a weather proof seal of any sort, just a quick oring and snap plastics. ""

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 26 November 2018, 09:24:03 »
Just got my tracking info.  Should have it in a few days now :)

Mine won't get here till saturday...



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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 03:08:10 »
Hrrrrnnngg... why isn't it here yet... my colors look so terribad.. 

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 03:10:51 »
Waitttt a minute.... waaaaiitt a minute..


Does this mean , it might get here TODAY, even though it's scheduled for saturday ?

It says, package has arrived at my local post office.


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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 09:28:13 »
Mine is about 3 hours away from me but hasn't updated since yesterday.  So, hopefully it will arrive today too!  First to calibrate wins

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 09:44:43 »
Mine is about 3 hours away from me but hasn't updated since yesterday.  So, hopefully it will arrive today too!  First to calibrate wins


My mail is delivered at 3pm,   +/-  1.3hrs ..  So you can prolly call the competition right now given that info..


That said, I'm am mentally channeling strong psy-waves to compel my mail courier to visit me... Who knows.... !!


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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 15:15:18 »
NOOOO, I didn't get mine!

TP stole my mail!

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 15:19:40 »
NOOOO, I didn't get mine!

TP stole my mail!

My previous posts were mere decoys..

Thief lvl 99+++





How's this pixelp,  I won't open mine, until you get yours, "in Solidarity"

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 15:46:26 »
NOOOO, I didn't get mine!

TP stole my mail!

My previous posts were mere decoys..

Thief lvl 99+++


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How's this pixelp,  I won't open mine, until you get yours, "in Solidarity"

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I mean, it's in my town.  I see the tracking.  But I think it must have missed delivery for today :(  Oh well, at least I'll have it tomorrow.  You gotta get dem colors right.  Go ahead and calibrate, man.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 15:49:52 »

I mean, it's in my town.  I see the tracking.  But I think it must have missed delivery for today :(  Oh well, at least I'll have it tomorrow.  You gotta get dem colors right.  Go ahead and calibrate, man.


Don't worry.. Tp4 values this opportunity for temperance training.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 14:00:37 »
OMG the COLORS.  The before and after was CRAZY.  It looks so much better.  Man, the contrast is immensely better too.  Thanks again for posting the link.  Gonna need to buy some new monitors now just to test out some more results.   O.o

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 14:52:47 »
OMG the COLORS.  The before and after was CRAZY.  It looks so much better.  Man, the contrast is immensely better too.  Thanks again for posting the link.  Gonna need to buy some new monitors now just to test out some more results.   O.o


Ok.. now that you've gotten a TASTE of the Refined ..

You need to take it to the next level.

Uninstall all the bundled x-rite software , including uninstalling x-rite loader..



Install DisplayCal, m0ar accurate, m0ar patches, m0ar measurement

Let Displaycal install the argyll usb drivers and its profile loader, it has the best loader.

Let it download the Spectral Calibrations (auto) from the web for the i1Display probe

Click on Options -> show Advanced Settings.

Plug in the probe, let displaycal discover the probe, if it doesn't, go to tools -> detect display devices and instruments

Now enter THESE settings in the following 3 screens


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The  correction should match the display backlight of your monitor, if it's ccfl, choose ccfl, if it's white led choose white led, if it's wide gamut , choose wide gamut.

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Click calibrate & profile in the bottom middle.

This box should come up.. This is where you can set the monitor rgb color values, or brightness settings..

Click  start measurement..   This is not the calibration, this is preliminary..

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This is where you will see rgb and brightness



Now, on your monitor settings,  reset hardware settings to default, set it to custom color mode or 6500k mode, or srgb mode,  whatever mode that gives you RGB color controls via the monitor hardware..

First set the brightness to ~120cd or near it,  or lower, depending on your lighting condition at home, bright room, recommended is 120cd,  Tp4 uses 70cd because of Dark Room.. You can use whatever you consider NOT to hurt your eyes..

On that displaycal measurement screen , play with the rgb values from the monitor button going down, until the bars meet in the middle, you want to keep these values as high as possible, but lower them to meet in the middle on the measurement screen.  They don't have to be dead on center,  just close enough in the middle.



Now close all the software, your settings will remain , don't worry.

Take the probe off the screen, cap it, but DO NOT unplug it. leave it to the side

Run a 16:9 aspect ratio movie for at least 40 minutes full screen mode

Make sure your monitor stays powered on during this entire process, do not let it cool off at any point, or the colors won't read as steadily.


After the 40 minutes,

Open displaycal again ..

In the calibration tab, click calibrate and profile..

Put the probe back on the screen

Now the measurement screen will pop up again,  things MIGHT have changed. Here you can do your final adjustments and then run a movie for another 10 minutes to get stabilization,  or if it's close enough , just click continue calibration..


Once you click continue, it will begin doing the patches..

The prior convoluted step is just to get monitor RGB balance, and Backlight temperature stabilization.  for m0ar accurateness.



Also, what monitor do you have.. ?


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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:08:20 »
Guess I missed the deal. Oh, well. Maybe I'll remember this next Cyber Monday.
Maybe they're waiting for gasmasks and latex to get sexy again.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:09:29 »
If this seems overwhelming,  it's not.. it's fun... and you get much more accuracy..

Once you get through the first step,  you can also use displaycal to create 3D correction profile for MPCHC+Madvr so that your movies will have fully gamut corrected accuracy..

Calibration is not full gamut correction, it is only 1D correction (linear, greyscale, contrast, gamma)..   3D correction does the nonlinear transformations.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:33:24 »
I have a Dell U2717D and a Dell 144hz gaming TN panel S2716DGR

I calibrated the gaming monitor and I am totally shocked.  I was using settings from tftcentral for icc profile and I thought they were good.  Nope.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:37:59 »
I have a Dell U2717D and a Dell 144hz gaming TN panel S2716DGR

I calibrated the gaming monitor and I am totally shocked.  I was using settings from tftcentral for icc profile and I thought they were good.  Nope.


Those should be white led monitors,  so pick white led in displaycal..

hahaha.. calibrations are only good for ~500 hours..  then the monitor's backlight and crystals has changed enough that the calibration has to be refreshed...

When the monitor was new, it produced a different color.. that might match the tft central calibration, but not forever.



The xrite software calibration is pretty good, but displaycal is where it's at for maximum precision..

This is what we're after


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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 16:19:23 »
This may be a stupid question, but does this device automatically calibrate the monitor, or does it just tell you how "off" it is so that you can adjust it manually and then check it again?
Maybe they're waiting for gasmasks and latex to get sexy again.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 16:26:20 »
This may be a stupid question, but does this device automatically calibrate the monitor, or does it just tell you how "off" it is so that you can adjust it manually and then check it again?


Both.. 

The monitor has its own hardware modes/settings which are best suited and not suited for calibration..


 


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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 23:33:13 »
My God.. i1Display is extremely superior to the Spyder5..

I knew it was good, but the difference is surprising..

Basically,  if the Panel is within 2000:1 contrast ratio, (typical of VA-panel),  The spyder5 will work fine for everything.. IPS and TN are mostly in the 1000:1 range, so they're covered.

However, if the Panel is ~ 2000-5000:1 contrast ratio, the Spyder5 truly makes a mess of things on lower brightness settings..  It runs out of range, and you end up with way too much crushed blacks.

And OLED, the Spyder just can't do it right.

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Re: i1Display Calibration Pr0be.
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 04 December 2018, 00:13:14 »
Woah..  chk out this Phillips Tv from 2005..  600:1 contrast ratio.. IPS panel..  95% Srgb..

Had to dig into the factory service menu to lull that 600:1 out,  factory default white balance only allowed 500:1 due to over use of Blue-Gains.

Pretty damn awesome,  cost a pretty penny back in the day.. ~$1500-1800 hahahaha

Still respectable performance really..  it even has an upscaling processor which does digi sharpening .

1366x768 pixel count, only accepts 1080i and 720p..


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