Post by: davkol on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:27:37
I'll start:
- CH Products DT225 (USB) and Kensington SlimBlade trackballs at one setup (slimblade for scrolling and fast movements, DT225 for accuracy and wonderful Japanese omrons)
- bare Logitech G9x at the other one
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:39:22
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:40:41
I also use a Kensington Expert Mouse from time to time, and a simple Microsoft Compact Optical mouse for gaming.
Post by: vun on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:54:34
Will probably keep using the G602 until the battery runs out, I should have two more rechargeable ones somewhere, but I can't find them, so until they show up or I can be bothered buying new ones the G602 will stay dead.
Still pondering what to swap to.
Post by: MissMurd3r84 on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:56:06
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 04 March 2014, 18:43:27
All of these mice get used but the MX500 gets the most love at this particular moment in time. IT would seem I'm a Logitech fanatic yet I don't feel like barracking for them in any way on this forum or on any other.
Post by: Novus on Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:20:59
Post by: Kamen Rider Blade on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:25:31
&
Logitech G602
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:10:53
Looks old, works new. Matches the Model M plastic perfectly! Was way easier to do than I expected.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:13:48
Since I use a Model M with that true-age yellow tint, for a mouse I bought an ancient Microsoft mouse on eBay, and then replaced the insides with those from a brand-new Microsoft Laser Mouse.
Looks old, works new. Matches the Model M plastic perfectly! Was way easier to do than I expected.
- Ron | samwisekoi
That is awesome.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:17:23
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 05 March 2014, 17:30:12
Since I use a Model M with that true-age yellow tint, for a mouse I bought an ancient Microsoft mouse on eBay, and then replaced the insides with those from a brand-new Microsoft Laser Mouse.
Looks old, works new. Matches the Model M plastic perfectly! Was way easier to do than I expected.
- Ron | samwisekoi
YES, that's the way to do it. Re-use the shell for something better and keep on using it. A shame no company makes shells to accept mouse internals like Razer's, Logitech's and Microsoft mice. It means you can choose what type of internals to use yourself.
I'm sure some Chinese company would love to start a business selling universal shells to accept almost any internal sensor and switch from other manufacturers.
Post by: suby4me on Wed, 05 March 2014, 21:38:50
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 05 March 2014, 21:40:30
Since I use a Model M with that true-age yellow tint, for a mouse I bought an ancient Microsoft mouse on eBay, and then replaced the insides with those from a brand-new Microsoft Laser Mouse.
Looks old, works new. Matches the Model M plastic perfectly! Was way easier to do than I expected.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Do you have pictures? I'd love to see it
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 05 March 2014, 21:44:34
Since I use a Model M with that true-age yellow tint, for a mouse I bought an ancient Microsoft mouse on eBay, and then replaced the insides with those from a brand-new Microsoft Laser Mouse.
Looks old, works new. Matches the Model M plastic perfectly! Was way easier to do than I expected.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Do you have pictures? I'd love to see it
Did you have to dremel the bottom of the older mouse to fit the new internals?
Post by: Tactile on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:19:07
Post by: infiniti on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:20:54
Post by: wetto on Thu, 06 March 2014, 03:02:58
- Cheap generic wireless mouse on my HTPC (soon to be replaced for a Logitech G602).
- Corsair M60 at my laptop (I'll replace some of its internals soon).
Post by: daerid on Thu, 06 March 2014, 10:20:55
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 06 March 2014, 10:25:09
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:02:36
Since I use a Model M with that true-age yellow tint, for a mouse I bought an ancient Microsoft mouse on eBay, and then replaced the insides with those from a brand-new Microsoft Laser Mouse.
Looks old, works new. Matches the Model M plastic perfectly! Was way easier to do than I expected.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Do you have pictures? I'd love to see it
Did you have to dremel the bottom of the older mouse to fit the new internals?
Potato pics attached. The potato has poor white balance; both the keyboard plastic and the mouse are much more yellow than they appear in the pictures.
No Dremel was needed. Apparently the top plastic mold didn't change over a 15-year period. I just disassembled both, cleaned (but did NOT Retrobrite) the old top shell, and re-assembled. I could not re-use the old sides or red front tip, so those are new.
I like it.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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It is also possible I gained a USB cable in the process. I am not certain of that.
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Post by: Elrick on Thu, 06 March 2014, 17:40:24
Potato pics attached. The potato has poor white balance; both the keyboard plastic and the mouse are much more yellow than they appear in the pictures.
Okay so you've used the original WMO. I thought you opened up a really old version, of a Microsoft Mouse that used a Mechanical Ball arrangement and removed the internal guts, then replaced it with the WMO internals. My fault for misinterpreting your description.
Good to see the WMO getting used still :thumb: .
Post by: demik on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:46:10
i really don't want to go the apple magic anything route but none of these mice look promising on this ****ing OS.
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:49:26
But seriously; I use the g9x, and I think I'll be extremely sad when I have to hunt for a new mouse because this is THE mouse for me.
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:51:23
Potato pics attached. The potato has poor white balance; both the keyboard plastic and the mouse are much more yellow than they appear in the pictures.
Okay so you've used the original WMO. I thought you opened up a really old version, of a Microsoft Mouse that used a Mechanical Ball arrangement and removed the internal guts, then replaced it with the WMO internals. My fault for misinterpreting your description.
Good to see the WMO getting used still :thumb: .
I'm using a WMO right now...in fact there are 3 WMOs in the house
Post by: digi on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:53:17
Potato pics attached. The potato has poor white balance; both the keyboard plastic and the mouse are much more yellow than they appear in the pictures.
Okay so you've used the original WMO. I thought you opened up a really old version, of a Microsoft Mouse that used a Mechanical Ball arrangement and removed the internal guts, then replaced it with the WMO internals. My fault for misinterpreting your description.
Good to see the WMO getting used still :thumb: .
I'm using a WMO right now...in fact there are 3 WMOs in the house
beast
Post by: Brummell on Thu, 06 March 2014, 23:33:36
Post by: All The Fire on Fri, 07 March 2014, 02:59:44
Post by: delobe on Fri, 07 March 2014, 03:08:58
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:06:55
Potato pics attached. The potato has poor white balance; both the keyboard plastic and the mouse are much more yellow than they appear in the pictures.
Okay so you've used the original WMO. I thought you opened up a really old version, of a Microsoft Mouse that used a Mechanical Ball arrangement and removed the internal guts, then replaced it with the WMO internals. My fault for misinterpreting your description.
Good to see the WMO getting used still :thumb: .
Sorry, missed this post.
I looked at using a really old IBM or MS mouse external case, but I really couldn't do without the scroll wheel, so this was the oldest I could find that would work for me.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Post by: davkol on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:19:04
PMSG1 Prestigio gamer mouse, yellow.
How do you like it? It always looked appealing to me, but I didn't want to pay for something I didn't know much about.
Post by: mixProtocol on Mon, 17 March 2014, 14:25:19
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 March 2014, 14:34:01
But seriously; I use the g9x, and I think I'll be extremely sad when I have to hunt for a new mouse because this is THE mouse for me.
I found that the CM Storm Spawn had a similar feel in my hand to the G9X. I've been stocking up on both since I love both of them. But currently I'm using the Spawn on both my work and home computers.
I'd really like to try a trackball though.
Post by: wetto on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:00:50
Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:48:11
Post by: Windos on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:53:26
Got it for my tablet, didn't realize battery life so short, donated it to my work PC as it lasts a full work day and charges overnight.
Post by: epzy on Wed, 19 March 2014, 23:00:20
Post by: vun on Thu, 20 March 2014, 04:35:20
Razer Deathadder 2013 version. I've had 3 DA's... and like 10 Microsoft Intelli 3.0 mice prior to my DA's. Any recommandations for a new mouse? I'm happy with my current one though, so I don't really care - but for all I know there might be a different mouse out there that would fit me better. It's for gaming/internet browsing purposes.
It's hard to recommend something if you just want something that fits you better, since we can't really know what you prefer. You might want to try something radically different, like an Abyssus, a Xornet, or something flat like a Func MS-3.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 20 March 2014, 04:45:17
Razer Deathadder 2013 version. I've had 3 DA's... and like 10 Microsoft Intelli 3.0 mice prior to my DA's. Any recommandations for a new mouse? I'm happy with my current one though, so I don't really care - but for all I know there might be a different mouse out there that would fit me better. It's for gaming/internet browsing purposes.
It's hard to recommend something if you just want something that fits you better, since we can't really know what you prefer. You might want to try something radically different, like an Abyssus, a Xornet, or something flat like a Func MS-3.
Are there any mice that's similar to the Deathadder, but with better internals? I need two buttons on the left side, nothing more. That CM Storm Xornet mouse looks interesting. I noticed my current Deathadder is starting to die out, so it's time for an upgrade soon.
Edit: Reading your mega mice write-up. :P Xornet inc.
Post by: abjr on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:04:10
I've gone from (https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCA_ZdR7eJKgAY8PL80-bQp6gDRIqtF0bQogHhbVrABuXeO0e3sg) to this (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_0tINgYgCgwvRrl39dB3UI_BI2d0cXzcdLH-zCC3BMjuVvd75) to this (http://logitech.ugc.bazaarvoice.com/7061/70751/photo.jpg) to the M570.
-abjr
Post by: Protato_Tubby on Thu, 20 March 2014, 11:55:36
Post by: wetto on Thu, 20 March 2014, 14:58:39
Post by: tayot on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:08:22
Post by: zig_ziglar on Fri, 21 March 2014, 03:24:24
Post by: Doyniish on Fri, 21 March 2014, 13:10:07
Post by: kittykatmax on Wed, 26 March 2014, 18:44:02
G700, G13, Wacom Intuos3 (4"x 5"), on the primary PC
G700, Wacom Intuos3 (6"x 8") on the secondary PC
I use Input Director freeware, which lets me use everything but the PowerMate across either PC depending upon the Master/Slave condition. I know two Wacom tablets is excessive, but when my cats "disappeared" the Grip Pen and I saw how expensive they were to replace (about $50, as is the mouse!), I decided to buy the 4" x 5" so I'd have a spare of everything else. The sole grip pen is kept carefully out of harm's (cat's) way, as I suspect they knocked the original off the desk and into the trash without my noticing. /sigh
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 26 March 2014, 18:51:50
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:30:47
But seriously; I use the g9x, and I think I'll be extremely sad when I have to hunt for a new mouse because this is THE mouse for me.
I found that the CM Storm Spawn had a similar feel in my hand to the G9X. I've been stocking up on both since I love both of them. But currently I'm using the Spawn on both my work and home computers.
I'd really like to try a trackball though.
Yeah I was looking into stocking a couple of those actually. Thanks for confirming my research even more =).
Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:33:59
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 28 March 2014, 04:36:51
potato
what are the things on the right (blue) and the left? a notepad and a volume-controller?
ontopic: currently using a G400. i also own a zowie FK. both mice are among the best for fps games (which i play frequently) :j
Post by: davkol on Fri, 28 March 2014, 05:19:28
potato
what are the things on the right (blue) and the left? a notepad and a volume-controller?
ontopic: currently using a G400. i also own a zowie FK. both mice are among the best for fps games (which i play frequently) :j
Apple trackpad and Griffin Powermate, the only thing missing there is a Apple Aluminium keybohd
Post by: oscillik on Fri, 28 March 2014, 05:27:12
when back home, Zowie FK 2014
Post by: vun on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:59:03
Post by: Doyniish on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:56:23
Apple trackpad and Griffin Powermate, the only thing missing there is a Apple Aluminium keybohd
@Bucake: Yep this is correct. Griffin Powermate is a controller and can be programmed for almost any application to do things. I use it for Final Cut Pro and as a volume control.
As for the Apple Keyboard remark, i'm not sure what you mean by this. If it was supposed to be a chirp it really was pretty pathetic.
Post by: eddie on Sat, 29 March 2014, 15:58:26
Post by: daerid on Tue, 01 April 2014, 01:25:54
Post by: vun on Tue, 01 April 2014, 04:10:25
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 01 April 2014, 10:04:21
Post by: PolaBurrr on Tue, 01 April 2014, 10:34:04
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 April 2014, 10:42:04
Post by: PolaBurrr on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:18:49
CM Storm Spawn at work and a Kensington Slimblade at home. I think I'm starting to really like trackballs.
One benefit I see with trackballs is that it resists your urge to play games when you should be doing work :p
Post by: davkol on Sun, 13 April 2014, 18:49:53
...but it was only for Cookie Clicker. Now I'm giving Logitech G400 another chance. Or just suffer with a trackpoint.
Post by: davkol on Mon, 28 April 2014, 12:40:33
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 12:58:41
Post by: mrklaw on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:02:10
I've got a LTrac on the way from Massdrop to replace it.
Post by: CeeSA on Fri, 16 May 2014, 06:34:33
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Post by: munch on Sun, 25 May 2014, 05:30:46
is there any product especially made to help with this? like grip tape that isn't too thick or whatever?
any ideas?
thanks!
Post by: vun on Sun, 25 May 2014, 05:36:20
I use a Logitech G100s atm, but having a hard time with the slippery sides when it's a bit hot.
is there any product especially made to help with this? like grip tape that isn't too thick or whatever?
any ideas?
thanks!
I know Artisan makes grip tape, not sure about thickness, but their pads get a lot of praise so I'd assume the tape is at least decent.
You can also buy pre-cut pads of grip tape, can't remember the manufacturer of those, but there's a good chance any site that sells mouse feet will also sell something like that.
Post by: kakakowie on Sun, 25 May 2014, 08:23:19
I really need a trackball with more buttons though. As far as I know theres the slimblade but the buttons are way too big.
Post by: davkol on Sun, 25 May 2014, 09:18:52
I really need a trackball with more buttons though. As far as I know theres the slimblade but the buttons are way too big.They're best pressed near the outer edge in the middle, it's not an issue at all. Only the switches could be better.
Post by: Freebird on Sun, 25 May 2014, 10:02:39
I thought I was silly buying a mouse with 12 side buttons, but I actually use them for a lot of stuff.
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 05 June 2014, 12:54:02
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2s128ly.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2lndabb.jpg)
Post by: UnlikeAny on Thu, 05 June 2014, 13:08:46
(http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2011/09/logitech-g400-review/logitech-g400-1b.jpg)
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 05 June 2014, 13:28:30
At work I use a trackpoint only. It is build in, in my right side of my Tipro board.
(Attachment Link)
elaborate on that board :eek:
Post by: Mr. D on Thu, 05 June 2014, 19:41:10
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 05 June 2014, 19:47:26
Post by: kakakowie on Thu, 05 June 2014, 21:07:59
ROCCAT Kone Pure Color, Orange. This thing fits amazing in my palm and is perfect. I love it! :cool: 10/10 Best mouse Ive ever used and also held (fitment wise).Show Image(http://i62.tinypic.com/2s128ly.jpg)Show Image(http://i58.tinypic.com/2lndabb.jpg)
Love the colour on that!
Post by: davkol on Tue, 10 June 2014, 11:30:43
Post by: epzy on Thu, 12 June 2014, 22:38:25
Post by: Deviruki on Sun, 15 June 2014, 14:27:42
Post by: sacratoy on Sun, 15 June 2014, 14:46:32
Glad I moved up to the G502, very similar shape.
Post by: wetto on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:35:56
Sensor: Pixart PAN3309DH
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/819/goq4.png)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/6sdn.png)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/856/p2l9.png)
Calling it "bad" is underrating it. It goes far beyond that... It's the worst gaming mouse I've ever seen, it makes any Philips Twin Eye mouse (even the CM Storm Sentinel) look good next to it :-X
Post by: xxghostxx on Sat, 28 June 2014, 12:24:17
LOVE THIS THING!!!! :p
Post by: bursar on Sat, 28 June 2014, 15:53:52
(https://db.tt/bV6sbZXY)
I had the Kone for 4 years before deciding to upgrade to the XTD. I love the variable lighting - was awesome when I changed from the red LEDs on the Sidewinder X6 keyboard to the blue LEDs on the Blackbird. A couple of mouse clicks, and presto, all the colours match again :)
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 30 June 2014, 08:51:48
(http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/262288-hp-z210-small-form-factor-workstation-mouse.jpg)
Post by: wetto on Mon, 30 June 2014, 19:19:22
I AM CURRENTLY USING A HEWLETT-PACKARD MOUSE AS A POINTING DEVICE.Show Image(http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/262288-hp-z210-small-form-factor-workstation-mouse.jpg)
No love for the original Microsoft Intellimouse?
(http://www.topdesignmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1335.jpg)
It's one of the first mouse ever to use a rubberized scroll wheel and the one of the first "Palm" grip mice.
Post by: ShawnMeg on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:08:07
At work, just use a ****ty Dell mouse. I have a Magic Trackpad that I use with an old MacBook Pro, but I'm not too fond of it.
I also use an old PS/2 Dell optical mouse with a 10 yr old laptop that I'm running Linux.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 02 July 2014, 00:45:38
I AM CURRENTLY USING A HEWLETT-PACKARD MOUSE AS A POINTING DEVICE.Show Image(http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/262288-hp-z210-small-form-factor-workstation-mouse.jpg)
No love for the original Microsoft Intellimouse?Show Image(http://www.topdesignmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1335.jpg)
It's one of the first mouse ever to use a rubberized scroll wheel and the one of the first "Palm" grip mice.
Yeah just as I thought mw has always been unfaithful to the original Microsoft Mouse brand, as now confirmed by him 8) .
I now have the original InteliEye Sensor LED mouse "Made in Mexico" model, LOVE it to DEATH :thumb: .
Post by: twiddle on Wed, 02 July 2014, 03:15:57
(http://static.pccasegear.com/images/62150(MSSENSEI)t2.jpg)
Post by: wetto on Wed, 02 July 2014, 04:08:24
The one I prefer to use the most is the Steelseries Sensei (not the RAW edition, the original). It lets me have pretty insane sensitivity (about 11k CPI), with an option to have hardware in the mouse reduce that sensitivity when I am making very slow movements. Lets me fly around my dual screen setup without having to worry about precision when trying to only move in small increments.Show Image(http://static.pccasegear.com/images/62150(MSSENSEI)t2.jpg)
Do you know that that CPI/DPI is achieved through positive interpolation, which is just about the same concept as upscaling pictures/videos, which means, it's not really as accurate as a native CPI/DPI would be. Kinda like doing this:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9219/mw2cb.jpg
PS: But the main difference between CPI (DPI)/Picture or Video Resolution is that higher CPI/DPI doesn't means better, so don't misunderstand the example!
When you try to force a sensor to achieve a higher CPI/DPI, you get a lot more noise, jitter and a much less precise tracking, so, using 11k CPI/DPI is just really (pardon me for the word, but it's necessary) stupid. Here's an example of a 2000 CPI/DPI (AVAGO 3050) sensor working up to 3200 CPI/DPI through interpolation:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/845/sity3.jpg)
You get lots of jitter and anything above 1600 CPI/DPI has a fair amount of mouse prediction to makes things worse.
The max CPI/DPI of the older version of the AVAGO 9500, which is Steelseries Sensei's sensor, is 5700 CPIs/DPIs. Anything above that will contain higher amounts of jitter, smoothing and maybe even input lag and is just not recommendable.
Post by: twiddle on Wed, 02 July 2014, 04:16:46
Do you know that that CPI is achieved through positive interpolation, which is just about the same concept as upscaling pictures/videos, which means, it's not really as accurate as a native DPI would be.
<snip>
The max DPI of the older version of the AVAGO 9500, which is Steelseries Sensei's sensor, is 5700 DPIs. Anything above that will contain higher amounts of jitter, smoothing and maybe even input lag and is just not recommendable.
Fair call, this makes sense if it is achieving it through interpolation like you say. Perhaps the Sensei is using some of that fancy gimmicky onboard processor to compensate? I've got other mice that run at around that 5500-6500 DPI range (a Saitek and a Razer) and don't notice any jitter, or lag, whatsoever with the Sensei by comparison.
Thanks for the info though, I didn't really think to investigate the difference between CPI and DPI.
Post by: JackMills on Wed, 02 July 2014, 04:59:53
Now, I was looking for a new mouse and was thinking about the Logitech Performance MX, due to it's programmable buttons and that it works good on different surfaces, but then I saw this thread. A lot mention that they are using a trackball, and now I am intrigued. I like that a trackball stays in place on the desk, it seems to be ergonomical, but how different is the experience?
How is the experience in CAD software (PTC-software mainly)?
Edit: A last question, how good is the logitech M570 for mobile use?
Post by: wetto on Wed, 02 July 2014, 13:00:34
Do you know that that CPI is achieved through positive interpolation, which is just about the same concept as upscaling pictures/videos, which means, it's not really as accurate as a native DPI would be.
<snip>
The max DPI of the older version of the AVAGO 9500, which is Steelseries Sensei's sensor, is 5700 DPIs. Anything above that will contain higher amounts of jitter, smoothing and maybe even input lag and is just not recommendable.
Fair call, this makes sense if it is achieving it through interpolation like you say. Perhaps the Sensei is using some of that fancy gimmicky onboard processor to compensate? I've got other mice that run at around that 5500-6500 DPI range (a Saitek and a Razer) and don't notice any jitter, or lag, whatsoever with the Sensei by comparison.
Thanks for the info though, I didn't really think to investigate the difference between CPI and DPI.
Basically, the dictionary meaning of each one, which doesn't makes any sense at first is:
CPI = Counts per Inch
DPI = Dots per Inch (dots as in the number of pixels on your screen!)
Your mouse sensor always works with Counts Per Inch, but those get translated later into Dots per Inch so that your computer may understand them and move the cursor accordingly.
So, in a 800 CPI mouse, if you move your mouse left for a single Inch the sensor will make 800 Counts, then those will be sent to your computer which will move the cursor 800 Dots (or Pixels if you prefer) towards left on the screen.
In the end, as many say, it's almost the same thing because they both have the same value and one always gets converted into the other, but Counts are related to the sensor, while Dots are related to the screen.
Also, it has no relationship whatsoever with accuracy. A good video that explains some of this, and even more, is this one, from a Logitech's Senior Engineer:
Post by: Frenir on Wed, 02 July 2014, 13:03:03
It's amazing how much of an improvement the 2014 version is.
I just wish I could find another MMO-gaming mouse that I like, Razer is a continues disappointment in my case.
Post by: deltuhhh on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:16:09
Post by: Protato_Tubby on Thu, 03 July 2014, 10:14:22
i'm currently using the Steelseries Rival. love the thing.Welcome to GeekHack! :D
Post by: paicrai on Sun, 13 July 2014, 16:51:51
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 13 July 2014, 18:51:35
Post by: BetaZerker on Tue, 15 July 2014, 03:01:39
Post by: Coff_man on Tue, 15 July 2014, 09:38:14
Also a cheap wireless mouse for when I am in the bed. O.o
Post by: Doyniish on Wed, 16 July 2014, 21:05:01
Potato pics attached. The potato has poor white balance; both the keyboard plastic and the mouse are much more yellow than they appear in the pictures.
Okay so you've used the original WMO. I thought you opened up a really old version, of a Microsoft Mouse that used a Mechanical Ball arrangement and removed the internal guts, then replaced it with the WMO internals. My fault for misinterpreting your description.
Good to see the WMO getting used still :thumb: .
I'm using a WMO right now...in fact there are 3 WMOs in the house
beast
Same. I have both a black and white one. Best mouse ever!
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 18 July 2014, 08:11:35
(http://pds24.egloos.com/pds/201207/25/91/a0016091_500fae3fcc1c3.jpg)
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 July 2014, 22:06:31
Gave up on the G502 because it really is a small mouse, very thin and delicate like a super model on ice :p .
The original G500 is still fully functional and does everything you need it to do on the desktop without any fuss and above all else NO installation of Logitech Gaming Software required (still makes Logitech far better than Razer Corp).
Post by: Protato_Tubby on Wed, 30 July 2014, 09:16:45
Have gone back to the ancient G500 simply because it's scroll-wheel is superior for my own personal usage.Roccat Kone Pure scroll wheel is my favourite. It's so nice.
Gave up on the G502 because it really is a small mouse, very thin and delicate like a super model on ice :p .
The original G500 is still fully functional and does everything you need it to do on the desktop without any fuss and above all else NO installation of Logitech Gaming Software required (still makes Logitech far better than Razer Corp).
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 30 July 2014, 09:27:42
Post by: saturnotaku on Wed, 30 July 2014, 10:34:26
Post by: RED-404 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 11:36:45
Zowie Mico, I find this to be the most comfortable, but it sucks for FPS.
New Logitech G502 I love the sensor yet its the most uncomfortable mouse I have ever owned, but that's just me.
Post by: ShawnMeg on Sun, 03 August 2014, 13:41:39
Using a Logitech M570 now but I have a M705 mouse on the side for precision...and a Wacom bamboo pen and touch for even moar precision stuff. ;D
Almost like you. For my home main rig, I use a m705 primarily. I have a m570 in the box, but debate whether to open it vs. sell it. I'm thinking of getting a couple trackballs, CST2545W-5W and one of the Kensingtons.
For work, I use a piece of **** generic HP/Compaq roller ball. I also have an older Macbook Pro that I use with an Apple Pro Keyboard, HP USB piece of **** mouse and Apple Trackpad (which I don't use too much).
Post by: ShawnMeg on Sun, 03 August 2014, 13:42:24
Using a Logitech M570 now but I have a M705 mouse on the side for precision...and a Wacom bamboo pen and touch for even moar precision stuff. ;D
Almost like you. For my home main rig, I use a m705 primarily. I have a m570 in the box, but debate whether to open it vs. sell it. I'm thinking of getting a couple trackballs, CST2545W-5W and one of the Kensingtons.
For work, I use a piece of s hit generic HP/Compaq roller ball. I also have an older Macbook Pro that I use with an Apple Pro Keyboard, HP USB piece of shi t mouse and Apple Trackpad (which I don't use too much).
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 03 August 2014, 13:54:35
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 04 August 2014, 04:16:04
Post by: daerid on Tue, 05 August 2014, 14:58:02
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 05 August 2014, 16:50:35
Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 17:16:19
Post by: TheMark on Tue, 05 August 2014, 17:54:24
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 05 August 2014, 19:51:02
Brilliant WMO like setup, which I have always liked in the past but have never found a mouse with a decent size for my hand to use. The original WMO was just too small to ever use comfortably for more than an hour before 'hand-cramp' occurs.
Mionix have just made, in my humble opinion a "Perfect WMO" style of mouse. The only major piss-off is the side buttons which I NEVER need to use, so having to install their software I then disabled them all.
You can easily lift the Avior SK with it's side buttons because I use them as side grips hence the need to disable them from working :thumb: .
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 19:52:35
Zowie FK1, my new favorite mouse.If you don't mind me asking, where did you get yours? I tried to get one on Amazon as soon I heard of the changes, but unfortunately the shipping time listed is "1-3 Months" I'd love to know of another retailer that may have them stocked.
Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:58:52
I got mine from SuperBiiz about 10 days ago, but they are out of stock now.Zowie FK1, my new favorite mouse.If you don't mind me asking, where did you get yours? I tried to get one on Amazon as soon I heard of the changes, but unfortunately the shipping time listed is "1-3 Months" I'd love to know of another retailer that may have them stocked.
Post by: infiniti on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:58:24
Using a Logitech M570 now but I have a M705 mouse on the side for precision...and a Wacom bamboo pen and touch for even moar precision stuff. ;D
Almost like you. For my home main rig, I use a m705 primarily. I have a m570 in the box, but debate whether to open it vs. sell it. I'm thinking of getting a couple trackballs, CST2545W-5W and one of the Kensingtons.
For work, I use a piece of **** generic HP/Compaq roller ball. I also have an older Macbook Pro that I use with an Apple Pro Keyboard, HP USB piece of **** mouse and Apple Trackpad (which I don't use too much).
The m570 has served me very well. I had to replace the left click micro switch since it was starting to register double-clicks and miss some clicks. Now everything is working fine.
Why not give the m570 a go? I use mine 90% of the time (don't game much these days). 10% is mouse work in Photoshop.
Anyway, I haven't used a trackball since the late 90s and while I've considered getting a CST2545W-5W I don't know if I'll like the wrist angle in use.
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 12 August 2014, 09:57:14
(http://img.misco.eu/productmedia/htmlimages/cten/hwp/hwp-Q/Q40408-C.jpg)
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 14 August 2014, 07:06:24
My mouse status is unchanged. As of today, I am still using the Hewlett-Packard USB mouse:Show Image(http://img.misco.eu/productmedia/htmlimages/cten/hwp/hwp-Q/Q40408-C.jpg)
Ahem......That's an early Logitech design made by them for HP.
I knew Logitech made decent mice in the past as well as today, how could you go wrong otherwise.
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 14 August 2014, 11:32:14
My mouse status is unchanged. As of today, I am still using the Hewlett-Packard USB mouse:Show Image(http://img.misco.eu/productmedia/htmlimages/cten/hwp/hwp-Q/Q40408-C.jpg)
Ahem......That's an early Logitech design made by them for HP.
I knew Logitech made decent mice in the past as well as today, how could you go wrong otherwise.
They're decent mice. Just plain and simple units that get the job done.
By the way, my mouse status has changed: now I am utilizing a trackpoint on a Lenovo Thinkpad X61.
Post by: Demetrium on Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:11:19
At home: Zowie FK
Left handed pleb race 4TL.
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:50:46
I have resumed my use of the Hewlett Packard USB mouse.
(http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/323839-hp-z420-mouse.jpg)
Post by: epzy on Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:25:45
Great mouse, seems to be of high quality. All the buttons and the scroll wheel feels very nice. The shape is somewhat questionable at the moment, but that's because I'm used to mice like IE 3.0, DA, and EC2 eVo. Still, I think this is a keeper.
Post by: PadawanGeek on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:06:06
Main rig - Logitech G502
2nd rig - Roccat Kone XTD
3rd rig - Logitech G402
4th rig - Logitech G700s
Some pics -
G402 and G502
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/mikeysg/20140812_183446_zps05e29bb2.jpg)
G700s and the trusty CM Xornet (spare mouse, mothballed)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/mikeysg/20131212_220220_zpsb795f293.jpg)
G700s with the Thermaltake Level 10M mouse (spare, mothballed), and the Xornet....the Level 10M mouse is one of the most uncomfortable mice I've ever used. Looks great, but I have a dull ache on my palm after using it for a short time, never quite gotten used to it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/mikeysg/20130724_161450_zpsd17febb4.jpg)
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:49:22
Post by: ddot on Tue, 19 August 2014, 18:18:48
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 20 August 2014, 10:14:05
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 21 August 2014, 00:08:13
I am now using a Dell USB mouse.
Since you're doing the rounds with the greater manufacturer's here when will you get an official Compaq rodent to test out?
Post by: RED-404 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 00:23:13
Post by: deltuhhh on Fri, 29 August 2014, 16:11:18
Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 16:34:34
I'm currently using the Zowie FK1 that I just go a few days ago. It's freakin' amazing
Been using mine for a month and now its my "favorite". The FK1 is the hottest new Zowie mouse right now.
Post by: Freebird on Sat, 30 August 2014, 08:28:30
Post by: finleye on Mon, 01 September 2014, 17:44:43
Post by: munch on Mon, 01 September 2014, 20:25:50
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 September 2014, 20:40:46
the avior was near-perfect, just should have been a teeeeny tiny bit lighter I think. and less fat booty... but I have a strange way of gripping, it seems.
You need that Fat Booty because its all Gooooodddddddd :p . There's just so much more to love and squeeze your way into nirvana, god how I love big booty's 8) .
Post by: munch on Mon, 01 September 2014, 21:50:39
Post by: ahshwebah on Tue, 02 September 2014, 15:55:43
Post by: Novus on Wed, 03 September 2014, 00:31:42
the avior was near-perfect, just should have been a teeeeny tiny bit lighter I think. and less fat booty... but I have a strange way of gripping, it seems.
You need that Fat Booty because its all Gooooodddddddd :p . There's just so much more to love and squeeze your way into nirvana, god how I love big booty's 8) .
I have a very strong feeling you are not talking about mice here... :p in which case, I don't disagree! but for mice, no fat chicks!
Fat mice?
:/
Are you discriminating against the naos?
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 03 September 2014, 00:41:41
Fat mice?
:/
Are you discriminating against the naos?
The Naos looks like Courtney-Love-On-Crack. Whilst the Avior looks like Joanne Borgella, absolutely yumm 8) .
Post by: Novus on Wed, 03 September 2014, 01:45:44
Fat mice?
:/
Are you discriminating against the naos?
The Naos looks like Courtney-Love-On-Crack. Whilst the Avior looks like Joanne Borgella, absolutely yumm 8) .
I don't know either of them :))
But I do remember that thread where you had endless praise for the NAOS
Post by: munch on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:35:00
I have a very strong feeling you are not talking about mice here... :p in which case, I don't disagree! but for mice, no fat chicks!
Fat mice?
:/
Are you discriminating against the naos?
I sure am, gosh dang it!
Post by: wetto on Wed, 03 September 2014, 10:30:47
She's just waaaay too fat for me.
Post by: munch on Wed, 03 September 2014, 12:37:24
The Naos is one of the biggest "love or hate" mice, and unfortunately my relationship with my Naos 8200 will most likely end up in a divorce.
She's just waaaay too fat for me.
it's probably for the better... hope it's not too rough a divorce :( hang in there!
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 03 September 2014, 12:42:02
At home: Zowie FK1
Post by: epzy on Wed, 03 September 2014, 12:49:02
Post by: Novus on Wed, 03 September 2014, 13:15:50
At work: Intellimouse Explorer 3.0Steal that IME 3.0 back!
At home: Zowie FK1
My white EC2 eVo broke down, so I bought a FK1, but then I realized I needed the shape of the eVo so I bought a new black EC2 eVo and that is the mouse I'm currently using. =)Aww sorry to hear that the FK1 didn't work out :/.
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 03 September 2014, 16:40:51
Steal that IME 3.0 back!
Thankfully it's mine, brought it in from home :)
Post by: gooseta on Fri, 12 September 2014, 14:43:10
Post by: wetto on Sat, 13 September 2014, 08:39:39
While I really love how the AVAGO 3090 sensor has been pushed to its limits with a new MCU, I really don't like any MS 3.0 shaped mice... It's strange, I know, but I really prefer mice that are focused on claw/fingertip grips, like the Corsair M40 (my favorite), the Logitech G9x (my second favorite) and the Roccat SAVU.
Post by: usno_oj on Mon, 15 September 2014, 07:57:34
The tracking and sensor is perfect. No frills, no software needed.
One of the best, if not the best mouse I have used in a while.
Post by: davkol on Mon, 15 September 2014, 08:53:35
Now, compare that to Zowie FK, for example. Long story short, Zowie wants you to pay €50 premium for better tracking, ****ty coating and customer "service" (http://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/2f3mb1/zowie_customer_service_is_abysmal_even_with_a/). Pathetic.
Post by: munch on Mon, 15 September 2014, 13:56:30
Dell M-UVDEL1. It's the OEM ambidextrous mouse with silver buttons and dark blue shell that came with Dell OptiPlex desktops for years. Made by Logitech, it's well built. If you look inside, there's a 15g piece of metal screwed to the top shell; unscrew it and voila! the mouse is suddenly 5g lighter than WMO (which weighs about 75 g). My only complaint is that the sensor sucks (400 cpi + acceleration; prediction on par with A3050).
Now, compare that to Zowie FK, for example. Long story short, Zowie wants you to pay €50 premium for better tracking, ****ty coating and customer "service" (http://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/2f3mb1/zowie_customer_service_is_abysmal_even_with_a/). Pathetic.
have you tried the logitech g100s?
it also has the metal piece in the top shell, and is about 60something grams after it is removed. no acceleration, no prediction, very responsive, omron switches etc. 500-1000-2000 dpi etc.
small and not too dissimilar to your Dell mouse.
Post by: davkol on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:23:07
The dell has appeared on my desk by accident; my parents wanted to throw it away for no apparent reason, together with a few horrible Genius mice and a Logitech LX3, which I love. I gave it a try after years, because it doesn't hurt to change grips every now and then.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 15 September 2014, 21:34:20
I gave it a try after years, because it doesn't hurt to change grips every now and then.
Always change mice so that your hand doesn't become too dependent upon one type of mouse. Plus its good to change so that your fingers/hand becomes acclimatized to various setups and you can easily change your preferences. The key to survival in this world is to be flexible and adapt to any situation.
Don't become a loser that specializes with only using ONE type of mouse and refuses to change their method of working, you need to use various input devices that are available in this world. Besides the mouse is the absolute cheapest device when it comes to building a PC from scratch, so there is no excuse to not getting several to use and swap around.
Post by: davkol on Tue, 16 September 2014, 05:05:29
Post by: smarmar on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:30:23
g9x... and it's terribly slow on os x
i really don't want to go the apple magic anything route but none of these mice look promising on this ****ing OS.
I use a Logitech M500 for my iMac and I love it. It's way better than any other mouse I've tried with OS X. I can't believe Apple is still churning out those Mighty Mouses. They are such CRAP! Almost as bad as the 1st generation iMac puck mouse.
Post by: smarmar on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:33:48
Attached to my gaming PC is the oft-underrated Logitech G9x (Call of Duty edition). I set the LEDs to match the chartreuse green of the lights on my Hi-Tek RT-101.
Accompanying the Motias Tactile Pro on my 2006 iMac is the handsome Logitech M500.
Next to my backup gaming rig resides the Ms Sidewinder X5 (meh). I'll be replacing it someday for something a little more gainly and tactile.
Last but not least, my ol' lass uses the classic Logitech MX518.
Miscellaneous mice include: Apple Magic Mouse, Ms Intellimouse (ball), Logitech 3-button (ball).
Sorry for the long-winded story; I'm passionate about my mouses :)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:41:40
Post by: smarmar on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:59:07
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Logitech G5. It used to be my favourite mouse (and probably still is) until it kicked the bucket several years ago. I cried.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:36:30
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Logitech G5. It used to be my favourite mouse (and probably still is) until it kicked the bucket several years ago. I cried.
It still is at my place. Have a working G5 connected up to a PC for over 6 years now, only downside it's old style scroll wheel is a pisser, because I am firmly addicted to the G500 with it's free-scrolling wheel, the best invention by Logitech ever. Pity they don't apply it on every mouse or that any other manufacturer can make it for their own devices ::) .
Post by: munch on Tue, 23 September 2014, 22:07:50
I think the RAT is generally disliked due to its build quality, but I can't say as I've not owned one.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 23 September 2014, 22:49:42
for most of us really picky users, the G5 isn't a good mouse due to its sensor. it has a bit of built-in somewhat random acceleration which makes it very inconsistent for fast FPS games.
So true but the G5 isn't used in gaming at all. I am mostly an internet user by far with little to no gaming required in my usage. Hence laser and/or optical sensors have no exacting requirements for net usage.
Currently have set up another PC with my old favourite the G700 which after all these years still works nicely with a single Eneloop batt. I'm still a Logitech lover despite my hatred of them, you have to despise the ones you love because it's a natural tendency among humans everywhere ;) .
Post by: smarmar on Wed, 01 October 2014, 20:57:32
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Logitech G5. It used to be my favourite mouse (and probably still is) until it kicked the bucket several years ago. I cried.
It still is at my place. Have a working G5 connected up to a PC for over 6 years now, only downside it's old style scroll wheel is a pisser, because I am firmly addicted to the G500 with it's free-scrolling wheel, the best invention by Logitech ever. Pity they don't apply it on every mouse or that any other manufacturer can make it for their own devices ::) .
I love the free-scroll feature (except for the G9x, which can be a tad fidgety). I keep my M500 on permanent free-scroll. My lass primarily used the G5 when it was still alive and she tends to go through mice faster than most folks (heavy fingers, I suppose).
Post by: caseyandgina on Wed, 01 October 2014, 22:11:39
g9x... and it's terribly slow on os x
i really don't want to go the apple magic anything route but none of these mice look promising on this ****ing OS.
I use a Logitech M500 for my iMac and I love it. It's way better than any other mouse I've tried with OS X. I can't believe Apple is still churning out those Mighty Mouses. They are such CRAP! Almost as bad as the 1st generation iMac puck mouse.
Why do you feel that way? I'm using a Zowie FK1 now (max DPI setting, min OS sensitivity setting, great combo) and it's great but previously I was using Mighty Mice for several years and really liked them.
Post by: Glenn315 on Wed, 01 October 2014, 22:24:55
Post by: smarmar on Tue, 07 October 2014, 15:31:17
g9x... and it's terribly slow on os x
i really don't want to go the apple magic anything route but none of these mice look promising on this ****ing OS.
I use a Logitech M500 for my iMac and I love it. It's way better than any other mouse I've tried with OS X. I can't believe Apple is still churning out those Mighty Mouses. They are such CRAP! Almost as bad as the 1st generation iMac puck mouse.
Why do you feel that way? I'm using a Zowie FK1 now (max DPI setting, min OS sensitivity setting, great combo) and it's great but previously I was using Mighty Mice for several years and really liked them.
Maybe I was being a tad harsh :rolleyes: The Might Mouse that came with my 2006 iMac didn't feel good under my hand, the movement was too slow (on the fastest setting), and the omni-button kept getting stuck with dust and junk. The Logitech M500 is waaaaaaaaaaaay better!
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 07 October 2014, 15:50:30
The first one was used until the left mouse button stopped clicking and the second one ran into the infamous scroll wheel bug.
Went a step down to the Roccat Kova [ + ] but it was just slightly too small for my hands. Still going strong though.
As I have fairly large hands (long fingers) the Kone just fits. That and it looks badass.
(http://i.imgur.com/qOA8JWUh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/qOA8JWU)
Post by: pharaoh on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:22:44
my path to this mouse. mx 518-mx518-mamba-deathadder3.5g-AM-fk1-AM
I've used a ton of mice, but these i'd consider worthy of being in the list. others only spent a day or two on my desk. deathadder 2013 is terrible imo
Post by: Rebral on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:51:28
Though I'm alright with the g502 shape, having used a g400 in the past, I much prefer a bigger mouse for I have big hands.
Post by: wetto on Fri, 24 October 2014, 01:10:24
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/TnP2EL.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/UBYou5.jpg)
Weird 'little' thing... :-X
Post by: jackalope on Fri, 24 October 2014, 01:48:12
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 24 October 2014, 01:53:38
Post by: daerid on Fri, 24 October 2014, 13:47:45
Post by: wetto on Fri, 24 October 2014, 14:01:30
Been using a G602 for about a week, and holy crap this thing is awesome. Amazing battery life, too.
Yup. It's not flawless though, the range is a bit on the short side (3 meters) and I really don't like its scroll encoder, but yeah, it's surely the best wireless mouse ever made up to date.
Post by: telegraphist on Fri, 24 October 2014, 16:05:13
There's a similar thread for keyboards (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45475.0), so why not about pointing devices as well?LUGULAKE Vertical Ergonomic Optical Mouse, Wired, Right Hand - feells to me much more ergonomic than regular mice (I had many) and is amazingly inexpensive, while highly rated. Just checked Amazon for its proper name and find out that it's on sale today for just $9.99. I have purchased this mouse and the Anker® CE100 Ergonomic Optical USB Wired Vertical Mouse 1000 / 1600 DPI, 5 Buttons for $13.99 so I could compare them and returned the latter, even though it looks rather cool, better than the LUGULAKE in my opinion, but functioned much worse.
I'll start:
- CH Products DT225 (USB) and Kensington SlimBlade trackballs at one setup (slimblade for scrolling and fast movements, DT225 for accuracy and wonderful Japanese omrons)
- bare Logitech G9x at the other one
Post by: daerid on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:25:03
Yup. It's not flawless though, the range is a bit on the short side (3 meters) and I really don't like its scroll encoder, but yeah, it's surely the best wireless mouse ever made up to date.
Mainly using it for work and some WoW, and it's absolutely amazing. I wouldn't use it for more hardcore gaming though, I don't really trust wireless yet for things like FPS
Post by: wetto on Sat, 25 October 2014, 19:00:39
Yup. It's not flawless though, the range is a bit on the short side (3 meters) and I really don't like its scroll encoder, but yeah, it's surely the best wireless mouse ever made up to date.
Mainly using it for work and some WoW, and it's absolutely amazing. I wouldn't use it for more hardcore gaming though, I don't really trust wireless yet for things like FPS
Well, give it a try, although there's really a reason why wireless will never be better than wired...
(http://imageshack.com/a/img842/7616/vs6n2.jpg)
Feels pretty smooth, but the refresh rate really isn't stable.
Post by: daerid on Sat, 25 October 2014, 23:05:14
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sat, 25 October 2014, 23:30:49
Post by: wetto on Sun, 26 October 2014, 17:17:42
Is that on the Performance mode? If so.... ugh, that's terrible.
Yeah it is...
I want a logitech g702s. They need to hurry up and release one.
If they do so, it needs a few changes from the G700S:
1. Needs to weight a little bit less (at least 20 grams).
2. Battery needs to last at least 5x more. For god's sake, make it use one of those "new" miraculous batteries we all see on the news every god damn week and never on our peripherals, they may even charge us more for that (see how much the R.A.T 7 and the Mamba cost and people still buy them?).
But PLEASE, don't make us have to recharge it every 2-3 days.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sun, 26 October 2014, 17:28:43
Is that on the Performance mode? If so.... ugh, that's terrible.
Yeah it is...I want a logitech g702s. They need to hurry up and release one.
If they do so, it needs a few changes from the G700S:
1. Needs to weight a little bit less (at least 20 grams).
2. Battery needs to last at least 5x more. For god's sake, make it use one of those "new" miraculous batteries we all see on the news every god damn week and never on our peripherals, they may even charge us more for that (see how much the R.A.T 7 and the Mamba cost and people still buy them?).
But PLEASE, don't make us have to recharge it every 2-3 days.
The 602s has amazing battery life and the 502 proteus has all the bells and whistles. It wouldn't take a lot of effort for them to release a wireless gaming/productivity mouse that fit the 700 slot.
Post by: a_ak57 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 12:16:43
Post by: munch on Mon, 27 October 2014, 13:38:45
I'm using a Zowie FK with the guts of the FK1.
nice. I like that idea. wonder if I can fit FK1 internals in an EC2 eVo...
Post by: daerid on Mon, 27 October 2014, 19:20:00
The 602s has amazing battery life and the 502 proteus has all the bells and whistles. It wouldn't take a lot of effort for them to release a wireless gaming/productivity mouse that fit the 700 slot.
I'd buy it, as long as it had the sensor of the G402s :)
Post by: wetto on Tue, 28 October 2014, 00:26:19
The 602s has amazing battery life and the 502 proteus has all the bells and whistles. It wouldn't take a lot of effort for them to release a wireless gaming/productivity mouse that fit the 700 slot.
I'd buy it, as long as it had the sensor of the G402s :)
The G602 already uses a modification of the AVAGO AM010 sensor (which is G402's sensor), so, you're already doing that :p
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:06:02
You might be able to make it work with some modding, but it's not a simple swap like the FK/FK1/AM (all you need to do is unscrew/screw things in with those).I'm using a Zowie FK with the guts of the FK1.
nice. I like that idea. wonder if I can fit FK1 internals in an EC2 eVo...
Post by: pharaoh on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:57:25
Post by: ikerclon on Wed, 29 October 2014, 01:42:21
If you want to have a weird (and maybe life changing!) experience, try it out!
Post by: daerid on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:15:09
The 602s has amazing battery life and the 502 proteus has all the bells and whistles. It wouldn't take a lot of effort for them to release a wireless gaming/productivity mouse that fit the 700 slot.
I'd buy it, as long as it had the sensor of the G402s :)
The G602 already uses a modification of the AVAGO AM010 sensor (which is G402's sensor), so, you're already doing that :p
yay! I didn't realize the G602 was an optical. Makes me <3 it even more
Post by: wetto on Wed, 29 October 2014, 13:27:03
The 602s has amazing battery life and the 502 proteus has all the bells and whistles. It wouldn't take a lot of effort for them to release a wireless gaming/productivity mouse that fit the 700 slot.
I'd buy it, as long as it had the sensor of the G402s :)
The G602 already uses a modification of the AVAGO AM010 sensor (which is G402's sensor), so, you're already doing that :p
yay! I didn't realize the G602 was an optical. Makes me <3 it even more
Yup, that's why even with a lower refresh rate than other gaming mice and even some stability problems (which almost every wireless mouse has as well), it feels better than any other wireless mouse ever made. It's an IR Optical sensor, if you want to see the LED, just use your cellphone camera and look at it through it (after moving the mouse).
There's others wireless optical gaming mouse as well, such as the A4Tech Bloody R8A, which uses an AVAGO 3050, but honestly, its tracking really isn't that good and A4Tech decided to "increase" the maximum DPI up to 3200 through interpolation.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/8264/sity3.jpg)
That's some heavy jitter right there above 1600 DPI, but that's what happens when you try to exceed the maximum DPI a sensor was designed for (anything above 2000).
There's also a little bit of it at 400 DPIs, since that's not a native DPI step.
Anyways, sure the G602 has a couple of flaws, but it's without any doubt the best wireless gaming mouse made up to date. Try to give it a try at gaming, you might even get surprised.
Post by: appleonama on Sun, 02 November 2014, 01:10:35
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:42:52
Post by: davkol on Thu, 06 November 2014, 07:17:57
Post by: wetto on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:56:58
CM Storm Alcor. It's a lovely piece of hardware, but the firmware/configuration could be much better. In particular, there's no polling rate option between 1 kHz and 125 Hz, I'd love to have closer dpi steps (like 800/1000/1600/2000, if possible), lights are an abomination, and the flashing tool obviously doesn't work outside MS Windows.
Firmware 2.2.0 fixes that (400/800/1600/2000), although you really need Windows to apply it :rolleyes:
Post by: Lurch on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:58:09
loving this thing
Post by: davkol on Thu, 06 November 2014, 09:42:39
2.2.1 is what I'm going to use, as soon as I manage to restore a WinY2K8 VM, but it bothers me that (1) the 1600 dpi setting has the blue light on (and I don't want to void the warranty straight away by desoldering the backlighting), (2) there's no step between 800 and 1600 dpi (it should be technically possible, right?), (3) 500Hz polling rate isn't supported (okay, maybe they did some magic and avoided jitter at 2000 dpi; I'm surprised that I don't notice any jitter at 1600 dpi with the 1.2.0 firmware, but 3200 dpi is already bad).CM Storm Alcor. It's a lovely piece of hardware, but the firmware/configuration could be much better. In particular, there's no polling rate option between 1 kHz and 125 Hz, I'd love to have closer dpi steps (like 800/1000/1600/2000, if possible), lights are an abomination, and the flashing tool obviously doesn't work outside MS Windows.
Firmware 2.2.0 fixes that (400/800/1600/2000), although you really need Windows to apply it :rolleyes:
Post by: wetto on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:49:20
2.2.1 is what I'm going to use, as soon as I manage to restore a WinY2K8 VM, but it bothers me that (1) the 1600 dpi setting has the blue light on (and I don't want to void the warranty straight away by desoldering the backlighting), (2) there's no step between 800 and 1600 dpi (it should be technically possible, right?), (3) 500Hz polling rate isn't supported (okay, maybe they did some magic and avoided jitter at 2000 dpi; I'm surprised that I don't notice any jitter at 1600 dpi with the 1.2.0 firmware, but 3200 dpi is already bad).CM Storm Alcor. It's a lovely piece of hardware, but the firmware/configuration could be much better. In particular, there's no polling rate option between 1 kHz and 125 Hz, I'd love to have closer dpi steps (like 800/1000/1600/2000, if possible), lights are an abomination, and the flashing tool obviously doesn't work outside MS Windows.
Firmware 2.2.0 fixes that (400/800/1600/2000), although you really need Windows to apply it :rolleyes:
The AVAGO 3090 has a very limited number of preset DPI steps and you can't really choose anything in between without using interpolation (and somehow my spidey senses tell me that 400 and 2000 are not native DPI steps, rather they're 800 and 4000 DPIs cleanly divided by two).
I'd say that if you want something even better, it'd be nice to wait for the CM Storm Alcor+ (Alcor with a AVAGO/Pixart PMW 3310 sensor and Mizar's body), but god knows when that thing is going to release... :(
Post by: davkol on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:12:46
I'll just keep waiting for a good deal on Kone Pure Military, and maybe try to reverse engineer the firmware to get rid of the backlighting, if nothing else.
Post by: Touch_It on Fri, 07 November 2014, 13:08:55
Currently at work though I'm using a Razer Lachasis until I can fix my G500.
Post by: yasuo on Fri, 07 November 2014, 23:23:50
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 10 November 2014, 17:34:15
what i really want (to try) is the FK shell with FK1 internals and omron switches.. but i can't do that **** myself :(
.....or a 3366 in a aurora-like shell (small and light)!
Post by: Glod on Sat, 15 November 2014, 20:41:23
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15795530081_8548efa27d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q4NdMx)
microsoft sculpt ergo mouse
got it for 20$
its actually pretty comfortable after you get used to it. its like a hybrid of a claw mouse and a vertical mouse. tracking isnt bad either it actually works for gaming ok
Post by: SpikeBolt on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:54:43
Post by: davkol on Wed, 19 November 2014, 12:14:37
Post by: fxtannier on Sat, 06 December 2014, 14:52:06
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 06 December 2014, 21:33:24
Post by: geogga on Sat, 06 December 2014, 22:33:20
Looking for a mousepad, not sure if i should buy another qck.
I recommend the avior!
How is the Rival? I've seen the razer taipan, my avior, the rival, and the fk1. Was stuck on the avior and rival because:
razer: razer. tis all I need to say.
fk1: heard it's plagued with issues. scroll wheel to hard sidebuttons to sensor, who knows.
Post by: daerid on Sun, 07 December 2014, 02:29:31
Post by: munch on Sun, 07 December 2014, 09:55:45
Mionix avior 7000. had a few issues but solved and went away.
Looking for a mousepad, not sure if i should buy another qck.
I recommend the avior!
How is the Rival? I've seen the razer taipan, my avior, the rival, and the fk1. Was stuck on the avior and rival because:
razer: razer. tis all I need to say.
fk1: heard it's plagued with issues. scroll wheel to hard sidebuttons to sensor, who knows.
Rival has questionable build quality, and straight up bad material choices. the rubber wears off in a few months. you'll notice your hands being covered in rubber after gaming on it for a while :p
it's also really heavy and grips very differently from the Avior.
I wouldn't recommend a QcK when there are so many better options out there - but it really depends on your preferences. if you could describe a little how you would like your mouse to glide...
Post by: wetto on Sun, 07 December 2014, 10:21:52
And yup, the Logitech G602 feels a whole lot better than it does.
Post by: daerid on Mon, 08 December 2014, 01:08:14
And yup, the Logitech G602 feels a whole lot better than it does.
errrr... wat
Post by: Freebird on Mon, 08 December 2014, 12:35:33
Post by: daerid on Tue, 09 December 2014, 11:38:22
Post by: wetto on Tue, 09 December 2014, 14:36:51
And yup, the Logitech G602 feels a whole lot better than it does.
errrr... wat
I know ergonomics do not always apply the same way to everyone, but the Logitech G600 just feels wrong to just about everyone, be it Palm, Fingertip or Claw grip users.
In that way, the Logitech G602 is a whole lot better than it is, even though it's quite a big mouse.
Post by: wetto on Wed, 10 December 2014, 09:05:48
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/538/BaBUt0.jpg)
But...
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2631/Uf8kwV.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img674/4504/7zj7FY.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/667/IBqYb3.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/6159/erN3Bd.jpg)
Yup, still sucks and internals are full of low quality components. But, compared to the CM Storm Devastator, at least now it's just a bad gaming combo instead of plain garbage.
Post by: Novus on Wed, 10 December 2014, 14:57:38
MoreCM Storm Octane, Cooler Master's new gaming combo, now using the AVAGO 3050 sensor instead of the crappy Pixart PAW 3309DH the previous one had:Yup, still sucks and internals are full of low quality components. But, compared to the CM Storm Devastator, at least now it's just a bad gaming combo instead of plain garbage.Show Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/538/BaBUt0.jpg)
But...Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2631/Uf8kwV.jpg)Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img674/4504/7zj7FY.jpg)Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/667/IBqYb3.jpg)Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/6159/erN3Bd.jpg)
Wetto, remind me to stalk you or something when the new CM products come out later next year :p
Post by: wetto on Wed, 10 December 2014, 16:21:13
MoreCM Storm Octane, Cooler Master's new gaming combo, now using the AVAGO 3050 sensor instead of the crappy Pixart PAW 3309DH the previous one had:Yup, still sucks and internals are full of low quality components. But, compared to the CM Storm Devastator, at least now it's just a bad gaming combo instead of plain garbage.Show Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/538/BaBUt0.jpg)
But...Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2631/Uf8kwV.jpg)Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img674/4504/7zj7FY.jpg)Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/667/IBqYb3.jpg)Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/6159/erN3Bd.jpg)
Wetto, remind me to stalk you or something when the new CM products come out later next year :p
Sure, as far as I know, there's the CM Storm Alcor+ (with side-grips and Pixart PMW 3310 sensor) and a mouse that looks just about the same as the Steelseries Sensei coming up (you could say it's a better version of the Recon), but there may be others I do not know.
Anyways, now that I finished reviewing both CM Storm gaming combos, I can go back to reviewing mice that are actually interesting and good, such as this lil' thing I got from a modder friend:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img674/4421/EZFc5B.jpg)
It's a replica of the extremely rare "Razer Cypher Deathadder":
(http://gamingweapons.com/image/razer/deathadder-commemorative/Web-TeamSeriousRazerDA-1.jpg)
According to Razer itself, only 15 of these were produced, but finding one is almost impossible. And the most interesting thing is, Cypher himself does not uses this mouse nor any Deathadder.
The replica in question is actually quite nice, I had a Deathadder a few years ago and this one surely isn't worse than it, since there is a Deathadder 3.5G inside of it (though the original version used 3G internals).
Post by: daerid on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:53:26
I know ergonomics do not always apply the same way to everyone, but the Logitech G600 just feels wrong to just about everyone, be it Palm, Fingertip or Claw grip users.
In that way, the Logitech G602 is a whole lot better than it is, even though it's quite a big mouse.
I'm definitely the odd duck then, I think it's damn near perfect. I'd absolutely love a mouse with it's shape and standard forward/back buttons.
But then again, I absolutely love Wingman-inspired shapes. I still have one of these bad boys:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414CGHQKSSL._SY355_.jpg)
To this day, still one of the best feeling mice I've ever used. Sensor sucks tho :(
Post by: munch on Thu, 11 December 2014, 23:36:14
so far, it is making me question what I've been looking for as a grip in a mouse before :p
it's a bit narrow in the front, which is fine, but you should definitely try it out before using it.
buttons are great, scroll wheel is alright.
can't comment much from a sensor performance perspective yet. I don't have my proper gear available, and using a very ****ty slow laggy monitor for the time being. but it should perform similarly to the G100s, which is good.
Post by: Creizai on Fri, 12 December 2014, 22:25:28
I know ergonomics do not always apply the same way to everyone, but the Logitech G600 just feels wrong to just about everyone, be it Palm, Fingertip or Claw grip users.
In that way, the Logitech G602 is a whole lot better than it is, even though it's quite a big mouse.
I'm definitely the odd duck then, I think it's damn near perfect. I'd absolutely love a mouse with it's shape and standard forward/back buttons.
But then again, I absolutely love Wingman-inspired shapes. I still have one of these bad boys:Show Image(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414CGHQKSSL._SY355_.jpg)
To this day, still one of the best feeling mice I've ever used. Sensor sucks tho :(
You know whats funny? I went out found a 1010 on amazon for $25 shipped. I ended up buying it knowing that it wouldn't live up to replace my fps mouse. I actually love the damn little thing, I just wish the mouse hertz could at least hit 500hz instead of the 315hz it keeps hitting. I know the 2020 is actually somewhat usable for desktop and rts duty. They all hit $100+ and I just can't justify that. I'm thinking about opening her up and seeing if I can swap in the guts from a Zowie MiCO. CM Storm Xornet is on the way though, maybe that will satisfy me.
Post by: daerid on Sun, 14 December 2014, 23:31:47
I know ergonomics do not always apply the same way to everyone, but the Logitech G600 just feels wrong to just about everyone, be it Palm, Fingertip or Claw grip users.
In that way, the Logitech G602 is a whole lot better than it is, even though it's quite a big mouse.
I'm definitely the odd duck then, I think it's damn near perfect. I'd absolutely love a mouse with it's shape and standard forward/back buttons.
But then again, I absolutely love Wingman-inspired shapes. I still have one of these bad boys:Show Image(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414CGHQKSSL._SY355_.jpg)
To this day, still one of the best feeling mice I've ever used. Sensor sucks tho :(
You know whats funny? I went out found a 1010 on amazon for $25 shipped. I ended up buying it knowing that it wouldn't live up to replace my fps mouse. I actually love the damn little thing, I just wish the mouse hertz could at least hit 500hz instead of the 315hz it keeps hitting. I know the 2020 is actually somewhat usable for desktop and rts duty. They all hit $100+ and I just can't justify that. I'm thinking about opening her up and seeing if I can swap in the guts from a Zowie MiCO. CM Storm Xornet is on the way though, maybe that will satisfy me.
The 1010 was a phenomenal mouse, except the mouse buttons were complete rubbish. If you do end up replacing the internals, I'd strongly suggest swapping out the switches for some Omrons or something similarly high quality.
Post by: wetto on Wed, 17 December 2014, 21:28:16
Just finished making an article of how to recognize the fake versions and all the differences between the original and fake, although it's in Brazilian Portuguese:
http://adrenaline.uol.com.br/forum/hardwares-em-geral/551765-tutorial-como-identificar-um-razer-abyssus-3-5g-mirror-edition-pirata.html
But then again, I can just post some pictures here...
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/661/oscB7z.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/538/ABl0rd.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/911/LfwvkU.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/673/skPxW6.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/538/RWDQF2.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/912/87cDu3.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/4622/9Q3MUK.jpg)
And yes, that's an AVAGO 5050 IR sensor there.
The funny thing, is that ALL fake mice have the SAME Serial Number: PM0949024101311
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/540/Omq5ng.jpg)
Post by: wetto on Fri, 19 December 2014, 22:06:15
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/903/msrld3.jpg)
Sure, it has a good number of improvements over the original, but somehow I really prefer the ergonomics of the older one...
(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4745/AfRxP5.jpg)
Post by: Blaklyte on Mon, 22 December 2014, 09:55:08
(http://www.ixbt.com/peripheral/images/razer_gaming/copperhead1.jpg)
Post by: daerid on Mon, 22 December 2014, 11:06:48
Post by: Blaklyte on Mon, 22 December 2014, 13:54:33
^^^ Had a green one. Great f'in mouse.
I really like it, I'm just sad that at some point it will stop working and I can't really find a mouse on the market that I like right now.
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 22 December 2014, 14:22:35
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 December 2014, 16:57:37
Post by: Clearly Superior Username on Tue, 30 December 2014, 10:36:50
Post by: dante on Tue, 30 December 2014, 12:23:52
CST2545-5W Trackball I got for christmas, it's my first trackball so it'll take some time to get used to and I still need to break in the bearings but so far I really like it.
On CST's website they are hinting (https://twitter.com/CST_USA/status/535178545765814272) about an upgraded PCB/Laser for the L-Trac. Do you know anything about this?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:44:34
CST2545-5W Trackball I got for christmas, it's my first trackball so it'll take some time to get used to and I still need to break in the bearings but so far I really like it.
On CST's website they are hinting (https://twitter.com/CST_USA/status/535178545765814272) about an upgraded PCB/Laser for the L-Trac. Do you know anything about this?
No but there are a few things they could change to make it better like more dpi options and the ability to change polling rate. But other than that I don't see much they could improve. Maybe accuracy?
Post by: dante on Wed, 31 December 2014, 09:38:47
CST2545-5W Trackball I got for christmas, it's my first trackball so it'll take some time to get used to and I still need to break in the bearings but so far I really like it.
On CST's website they are hinting (https://twitter.com/CST_USA/status/535178545765814272) about an upgraded PCB/Laser for the L-Trac. Do you know anything about this?
No but there are a few things they could change to make it better like more dpi options and the ability to change polling rate. But other than that I don't see much they could improve. Maybe accuracy?
Here is the response I got:
Quote from: email from CST
We are planning on just releasing the info on the new PCB on our website probably in the next few days.
We are currently selling the new ones now but getting one depends on where you buy the L-Trac from and whether they have bought L-Trac's from us in the past few weeks or not, I suggest asking the seller and maybe requesting one. You will be able to tell if the trackball has the new PCB by the "R2" next to the Model # on the label on the bottom of the trackball, all L-Trac's with the new PCB have the "R2". Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 01 January 2015, 19:24:09
CST2545-5W Trackball I got for christmas, it's my first trackball so it'll take some time to get used to and I still need to break in the bearings but so far I really like it.
On CST's website they are hinting (https://twitter.com/CST_USA/status/535178545765814272) about an upgraded PCB/Laser for the L-Trac. Do you know anything about this?
No but there are a few things they could change to make it better like more dpi options and the ability to change polling rate. But other than that I don't see much they could improve. Maybe accuracy?
Here is the response I got:Quote from: email from CSTWe are planning on just releasing the info on the new PCB on our website probably in the next few days.
We are currently selling the new ones now but getting one depends on where you buy the L-Trac from and whether they have bought L-Trac's from us in the past few weeks or not, I suggest asking the seller and maybe requesting one. You will be able to tell if the trackball has the new PCB by the "R2" next to the Model # on the label on the bottom of the trackball, all L-Trac's with the new PCB have the "R2". Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Guess I got the new one, mine has R2 stamped after the model #. I wonder what they changed?
Post by: dante on Thu, 01 January 2015, 19:30:20
CST2545-5W Trackball I got for christmas, it's my first trackball so it'll take some time to get used to and I still need to break in the bearings but so far I really like it.
On CST's website they are hinting (https://twitter.com/CST_USA/status/535178545765814272) about an upgraded PCB/Laser for the L-Trac. Do you know anything about this?
No but there are a few things they could change to make it better like more dpi options and the ability to change polling rate. But other than that I don't see much they could improve. Maybe accuracy?
Here is the response I got:Quote from: email from CSTWe are planning on just releasing the info on the new PCB on our website probably in the next few days.
We are currently selling the new ones now but getting one depends on where you buy the L-Trac from and whether they have bought L-Trac's from us in the past few weeks or not, I suggest asking the seller and maybe requesting one. You will be able to tell if the trackball has the new PCB by the "R2" next to the Model # on the label on the bottom of the trackball, all L-Trac's with the new PCB have the "R2". Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Guess I got the new one, mine has R2 stamped after the model #. I wonder what they changed?
Here are the new details. (http://clearlysuperiortech.com/newpcbandlaser.html)
Quote from: CST
Newly Designed PCB and Upgraded Laser Sensor Details
Our Newly Designed PCB and Upgraded Laser Sensor offers the same level of reliability and control that L-Trac users have come to expect over the years. All the same individual L-Trac models will continue to be available and they will all have the new PCB and Laser Sensor. All L-Trac models will continue to offer the same CPI (800, 1600, 400) which is still the highest of any trackball available today. New features are also available and include:
- Field Programmability
- Improved Precision Tracking
- The ability to change out the solid black ball for any other colored 2.25” ball (the same size as a regulation billiard ball). (Note: under standard operation any colored ball will work but the solid black ball has the best performance)
The new L-Trac's are Available Now, to see if you have one simply check the label on the bottom of the trackball and if there is an “R2” next to the model number then you have an L-Trac with the New PCB and Laser Sensor.
Post by: Valen on Thu, 08 January 2015, 01:13:22
Home: MX518 (Win) / G500 (Mac) / Anywhere Mouse MX (MBA).
Yes, I like Logitech. ;D
Post by: Novus on Fri, 09 January 2015, 22:30:08
Using a brand-new Razer Naga 2014.Show Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/903/msrld3.jpg)
Sure, it has a good number of improvements over the original, but somehow I really prefer the ergonomics of the older one...Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4745/AfRxP5.jpg)
Wetto you should definitely get/start your own website ;)
Razer Copperhead, had this since it came out in 2005Show Image(http://www.ixbt.com/peripheral/images/razer_gaming/copperhead1.jpg)
That's one of my favorite mouses.
Post by: wetto on Mon, 12 January 2015, 04:41:10
Using a brand-new Razer Naga 2014.Show Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/903/msrld3.jpg)
Sure, it has a good number of improvements over the original, but somehow I really prefer the ergonomics of the older one...Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4745/AfRxP5.jpg)
Wetto you should definitely get/start your own website ;)
I did, a few weeks ago...
www.hardwaredissect.com
;)
---------------------------------
BTW, the new Naga 2014 surprised me a lot. All of the flaws I had mentioned on my previous Naga review (Naga Molten) were fixed, plus there are many enhancements on build quality as well. Better plastic, better internals, better coating, and surprisingly, the new Philips Twin Eye PLN 2034 is not only a good sensor (unlike the previous ones), but it may as well be the best laser sensor ever used on a mouse, the LOD is just insane when properly adjusted, there's no Z-Axis problems, no durability problems, no tracking problems, doesn't seems to have Dynamic DPI Scaling as far as I've seen..
Post by: woll3 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 05:48:03
doesn't seems to have Dynamic DPI Scaling as far as I've seen..
It is actually adjustable, altough i need to read up on the exact numbers and featureset because apparently there are differences within the 8200cpi models.
and im still waiting for my PTE Taipan..... :(
Post by: ice31000 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 13:40:24
Post by: Novus on Tue, 13 January 2015, 18:18:26
Using a brand-new Razer Naga 2014.Show Image(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/903/msrld3.jpg)
Sure, it has a good number of improvements over the original, but somehow I really prefer the ergonomics of the older one...Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4745/AfRxP5.jpg)
Wetto you should definitely get/start your own website ;)
I did, a few weeks ago...
www.hardwaredissect.com
;)
---------------------------------
BTW, the new Naga 2014 surprised me a lot. All of the flaws I had mentioned on my previous Naga review (Naga Molten) were fixed, plus there are many enhancements on build quality as well. Better plastic, better internals, better coating, and surprisingly, the new Philips Twin Eye PLN 2034 is not only a good sensor (unlike the previous ones), but it may as well be the best laser sensor ever used on a mouse, the LOD is just insane when properly adjusted, there's no Z-Axis problems, no durability problems, no tracking problems, doesn't seems to have Dynamic DPI Scaling as far as I've seen..
It's nice that they fixed the Naga. I wonder if they made internal quality improvements on the DA Chroma from the DA 2013. I seem to remember people complaining about the clicks wearing down quickly.
Also, Whooo! Hey congrats on the new site launch! :thumb:
Keep up the good work and good luck. I hope you expand your content in both english & portuguese and maybe start a forum/community too!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 24 January 2015, 18:31:48
Post by: Valen on Mon, 26 January 2015, 02:09:15
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 26 January 2015, 04:27:40
I relubed the bearings in my CST L-Trac with a thick lube and it is now buttery smooth and feels a bit heavier to move the ball. I think I'm in love.
Nothing better than playing with a well-lubed ball ;D .
Post by: minh278 on Mon, 26 January 2015, 23:13:57
Post by: Kira on Wed, 28 January 2015, 03:54:00
Post by: aceps00 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:04:16
Post by: Lostwave on Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:02:38
But I am oldschool, I spend 90% of my time without touching the mouse.
Post by: demik on Thu, 05 February 2015, 23:02:41
it was working fine until we had an argument about it. (he said it was crap and i told him mine has been working fine for 2+ years)
now it's jittery as hell and constantly miss-clicks.
i hate you epzy.
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sat, 07 February 2015, 03:50:32
Post by: yogrt on Sat, 07 February 2015, 04:30:36
Logitech M570 Trackball soon to be retired by the Elecom M-XT1URBK that should be in the mail ;D
Post by: tDr1v3r on Sat, 07 February 2015, 14:15:02
Post by: GuilleAcoustic on Tue, 10 February 2015, 03:18:34
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:49:13
Post by: xoxo_tw on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:26:52
the foot mouse
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:54:29
Post by: davkol on Mon, 23 February 2015, 03:37:27
Post by: wetto on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:15:43
(http://imageshack.com/a/img910/6794/A1u8be.jpg)
Post by: davkol on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:27:45
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:01:50
Post by: wetto on Mon, 23 February 2015, 14:54:20
(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/5623/o7P08m.jpg)
It's white, it's glossy, it's well made and feels a lot better than its rubber counterpart.
Post by: Novus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 15:49:13
The new CM Storm White Supremacy kit
LOL
I never thought I'd hear those words on geekhack.
That being said, I do like glossy mice myself these days if only for cleaning.
Post by: smknjoe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 15:56:07
Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 17:58:12
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:03:56
dat tramp stamp
Want my Mrs with that Tramp Stamp 8) .
Post by: epzy on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:31:18
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8640/16447943898_c711429554_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r4s1FC)DSC00847 (https://flic.kr/p/r4s1FC) by epzyy (https://www.flickr.com/people/125332711@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: daerid on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:26:53
Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img910/6794/A1u8be.jpg)
How is it? The 100g weight is really tempting.
Post by: wetto on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:44:25
Show Image(http://imageshack.com/a/img910/6794/A1u8be.jpg)
How is it? The 100g weight is really tempting.
It's nice, but I can't say for sure it's really one of the best mice I've used, the ergonomics, especially on the right side of the mouse are weird, plus the sensor on my unit seems to be faulty (either that or the software screwed my unit), because it randomly makes 360 degree turns out of nowhere. Maybe it's a curse related to having the same sensor as the Deathadder 2013?
I could bash on it for being faulty, but it's not my first time finding a mice like that, CM sent me a prototype a few months ago and it had the same problem as well... I think this sort of thing is bound to happen on a few units anyway, plus dealing with the warranty is quite easy for me.
The software was completely remade and is a lot better and VERY powerful, but the GUI is a very complicated mess, if you don't use many of the features of mice software, this one will be part of your worst nightmares.
Post by: dante on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:50:02
I have no desire to change unless the EC1/2-A or Final Mouse 2015 hit MassDrop.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 04 March 2015, 05:11:13
I have no desire to change unless the EC1/2-A or Final Mouse 2015 hit MassDrop.
Same here, waiting for FinalMouse 2015 to hit MassDrop as well 8) .
Post by: Lpwl on Wed, 04 March 2015, 17:20:05
I have no desire to change unless the EC1/2-A or Final Mouse 2015 hit MassDrop.
Same here, waiting for FinalMouse 2015 to hit MassDrop as well 8) .
Hey Elrick why so much hate for Amazon ?
Can't they deliver this mice better / quicker than Massdrop in Australia ?
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 04 March 2015, 19:58:57
Hey Elrick why so much hate for Amazon ?
Can't they deliver this mice better / quicker than Massdrop in Australia ?
AMAZON won't deal with any payments other than CREDIT CARDS on their own dodgey website. If they offered Paypal then it would be nice because NO ONE in the known universe will ever know my credit card details.
Over too many years retailers lose your credit details to smart hackers, yet they never disclose the break in and loss of this data. Hence I only find out when some scumbag in Venezuela is paying for porn sites in America and sending me the bills >:D .
Since using Paypal, have never again received any more 'suspect' payments out of my accounts without me knowing about it :thumb: .
Post by: Novus on Wed, 04 March 2015, 20:02:44
Hey Elrick why so much hate for Amazon ?
Can't they deliver this mice better / quicker than Massdrop in Australia ?
AMAZON won't deal with any payments other than CREDIT CARDS on their own dodgey website. If they offered Paypal then it would be nice because NO ONE in the known universe will ever know my credit card details.
Over too many years retailers lose your credit details to smart hackers, yet they never disclose the break in and loss of this data. Hence I only find out when some scumbag in Venezuela is paying for porn sites in America and sending me the bills >:D .
Since using Paypal, have never again received any more 'suspect' payments out of my accounts without me knowing about it :thumb: .
What in the **** man.
I don't even know where to begin.
Post by: wetto on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:37:51
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/DWCDee.jpg)
I love the rubber coating on all Roccat mice, it just feels a lot better than what you see on any other brand.
Ergonomics wise, not really my cup of tea, I really prefer the Kone Pure.
Post by: gaucho_81 on Fri, 06 March 2015, 19:35:06
(http://www.webklan.com/cosas/desk_m.jpg)
With my laptop i´m using this little Lenovo BT thinkpad mouse (mod. MOBTC9LA)
which result to be, by far, the best portable mouse i ever used so far, track on almost every surfaces and the two AA battery last long time and give the mouse a heavyweight which I prefer.
(http://www.webklan.com/cosas/lapt_m.jpg)
regards
Gabriel
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 17:04:44
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 09 March 2015, 13:11:33
I'm using a Pure Optical as a successor to my OG Kone + that I used as my daily driver for almost 5 years.
(Kone + still works flawless except for the 'sideways mouse wheel buttons')
Also have a Kone XTD from before they were available as optical flying arround, and another Pure Optical as backup.
I prefer the slightly smaller 90% size of the Pure (for my style of claw grip) as well tho and also believe in optical sensors.
(http://i.imgur.com/ray4lPX.jpg)
Post by: wetto on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:45:57
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/8937/MKVDAF.jpg)
The Abyssus 2014 looks and feels exactly like a toy, although it does actually seems to perform quite well. I have mixed feelings about it, while it's not really worth the value and the Razer Synape is indeed a pain in the ass, it's impossible for me to deny that some people may like it.
And that Razer "Cypher" Deathadder replica is quite well made, there's a very nice attention to detail and the build quality is good enough to make people think that that's actually the real deal.
Post by: Mohfuu on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:00:56
Currently using the EVGA X5. Removed a bit of the insides to lower the weight and plastidipped it since I really dislike gloss. Nice mouse, pretty happy with it.
Got a pic?
Post by: Eziak on Mon, 16 March 2015, 14:06:55
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 16 March 2015, 14:24:32
Here at my gf apartment i use a Sentey Whirlwind it is cheap and work pretty good. Not as good as my Logitech g400 which i use at home, but for the money is more than enough. I pick it up because of the size, is a big mouse and very confortable.Show Image(http://www.webklan.com/cosas/desk_m.jpg)
With my laptop i´m using this little Lenovo BT thinkpad mouse (mod. MOBTC9LA)
which result to be, by far, the best portable mouse i ever used so far, track on almost every surfaces and the two AA battery last long time and give the mouse a heavyweight which I prefer.Show Image(http://www.webklan.com/cosas/lapt_m.jpg)
regards
Gabriel
rofl, dat square mouse ;D
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:22:18
I really like it so far, it's not tall and is a perfect shape for my fingertip-grip. I don't really play MOBAs besides HoTS, but I was looking for a nice optical mouse that wasn't too big and had good customer support behind it. I've never had any issues with Logitech so naturally I decided to pick it up. :thumb:
Post by: NoblesseOblige on Tue, 17 March 2015, 11:19:05
(http://i.imgur.com/hcHXEjj.jpg)
A Kensington Expert Mouse. I found it in a dark corner at work in brand new condition.
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:45:44
Post by: Novus on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:48:29
Today I picked up a Logitech G302 Daedalus Prime (http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/moba-gaming-mouse-g302).
I really like it so far, it's not tall and is a perfect shape for my fingertip-grip. I don't really play MOBAs besides HoTS, but I was looking for a nice optical mouse that wasn't too big and had good customer support behind it. I've never had any issues with Logitech so naturally I decided to pick it up. :thumb:
I heard there's a G303 coming out soon.
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 03:51:56
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 19 March 2015, 07:18:05
Today I picked up a Logitech G302 Daedalus Prime (http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/moba-gaming-mouse-g302).
I really like it so far, it's not tall and is a perfect shape for my fingertip-grip. I don't really play MOBAs besides HoTS, but I was looking for a nice optical mouse that wasn't too big and had good customer support behind it. I've never had any issues with Logitech so naturally I decided to pick it up. :thumb:
I heard there's a G303 coming out soon.
Looks like it was released about a week ago (WEEK AGO!). It's the same mouse but with an upgraded sensor and RGB lighting. I'll return mine's today and pick that one up instead. Though I will have to purchase it online from their store since it doesn't look like it's in B&M shops yet.
Good looking out. :thumb:
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 19 March 2015, 07:28:16
Post by: Johan on Fri, 20 March 2015, 13:05:11
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 22 March 2015, 23:48:31
Ordered a G303, Lets see if I finally found a replacement for my g9x.
Trust me you won't ever find another G9x being made by Logitech now.
The G303 is exactly the same as the G302 just with a 3366 sensor, hence enjoy the miserable shape of their latest Star Wars mouse from that evil empire >:D .
Post by: Novus on Sun, 22 March 2015, 23:56:18
Post by: mason on Mon, 23 March 2015, 00:06:51
Post by: Johan on Mon, 23 March 2015, 05:32:15
Ordered a G303, Lets see if I finally found a replacement for my g9x.
Trust me you won't ever find another G9x being made by Logitech now.
The G303 is exactly the same as the G302 just with a 3366 sensor, hence enjoy the miserable shape of their latest Star Wars mouse from that evil empire >:D .
Looks pretty usable imo, Used to small mice and apparently the clicks are amazing. I'm more concerned about the inwards angled sides than the spaceship-yness of it. I still have an extra NIB g9x in-case the current one decides to crapout.
Post by: davkol on Mon, 23 March 2015, 05:55:35
Post by: Hiroyuki on Mon, 23 March 2015, 05:55:36
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 23 March 2015, 06:00:28
Looks pretty usable imo, Used to small mice and apparently the clicks are amazing. I'm more concerned about the inwards angled sides than the spaceship-yness of it. I still have an extra NIB g9x in-case the current one decides to crapout.
The G302 just like the G303 is just horrible to hold for more than 30 minutes at a time.
The G9x can be held in your hands for hours without cramps developing, hence in the end it will come down to pure human ergonomics because the current crap coming out of Logitech, is extremely bad for mouse users in general >:( .
Post by: davkol on Mon, 23 March 2015, 06:52:38
Post by: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 04:43:22
The sad part is that M570 buttons and wheel feel awful, although it costs twice as much.
Post by: Corey on Sun, 14 June 2015, 00:12:56
Post by: sorijealut on Mon, 15 June 2015, 15:24:08
Surprisingly a really decent mouse, suits my preference well.
Post by: n3ro on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:45:19
Using a white Steelseries Rival.
Surprisingly a really decent mouse, suits my preference well.
$30 for a refurbished one at Newegg, might go for it.
Post by: sorijealut on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:59:22
Doo it! It's pretty much tied right now with my FK1 for my favorite mouse.Using a white Steelseries Rival.
Surprisingly a really decent mouse, suits my preference well.
$30 for a refurbished one at Newegg, might go for it.
Post by: Bomble on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:26:32
Considering upgrading to an FK1 when I get some spare cash though.
Post by: sorijealut on Tue, 16 June 2015, 08:37:08
I currently use a deathadder 2013 after upgrading from the previous version (whatever that was called) when the scroll wheel became strangely mushy.I fully recommend Zowie products.
Considering upgrading to an FK1 when I get some spare cash though.
If you really liked the Deathadder shape, I can recommend EC2-A as well, but FK1 to me is still a perfect mouse. They're basically the same mice with slightly different clicks and shapes.
Post by: Bomble on Tue, 16 June 2015, 10:21:21
Post by: davkol on Thu, 25 June 2015, 04:36:37
Tracking is kinda off and lifting the mouse results in a mess, the extra buttons are mostly weird, but it's still a modern roccat (read: decent build quality, great GNU/Linux drivers).
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 25 June 2015, 06:14:02
I fully recommend Zowie products.
TRUE, Zowie is the ONLY company listening to gamers these days, they make solid input devices for any sized hand in the world so you have to thank them for that.
The FK2 is still my favourite huano-switched mouse thus far :thumb: .
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 25 June 2015, 07:54:48
too bad i dislike huanos so much :-P
i think i made a mistake buying FK2 because it's quite small, and the buttons on the right are bothering me so much :-(
will probably sell it or give it away. i already went back to my G400..
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 25 June 2015, 07:59:26
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 04 July 2015, 03:17:09
i think i made a mistake buying FK2 because it's quite small, and the buttons on the right are bothering me so much :-(
will probably sell it or give it away. i already went back to my G400..
At least you went back to THE greatest Logitech Mouse that was ever made :thumb: .
Why don't you try the Zowie ZA11 model because I heard good things about it?
Post by: calvinhousecat on Sat, 04 July 2015, 03:20:26
Its only been 5 months and already the mouse occasionally double clicks :-\
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 July 2015, 03:26:45
Post by: henz on Sat, 04 July 2015, 04:32:59
Post by: atlas3686 on Sat, 04 July 2015, 05:56:19
Post by: sorijealut on Sat, 04 July 2015, 13:19:20
Still can't find a decent replacement for my g9x, anyone have any suggestions. I'm a claw grip and I prefer I but of weight to it.
For similar shaped mice I'd look into Logitech G302/G303, Corsair M45 or CM Storm Spawn.
Post by: imogene on Sat, 04 July 2015, 19:26:54
RIP WMO 1.1a after years of dedicated loyalty ;-;7
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 04 July 2015, 20:00:12
Still can't find a decent replacement for my g9x, anyone have any suggestions. I'm a claw grip and I prefer I but of weight to it.
For similar shaped mice I'd look into Logitech G302/G303, Corsair M45 or CM Storm Spawn.
First off the G302/303 isn't anything like the G9 (FACT), also the Corsair M45 is considerably larger than the humble G9 (FACT), so that only leaves the Storm Spawn which is slightly smaller than the G9.
If you love the G9 simply too much then stay with it because none of the current manufacturers have released anything like the G9 shape just yet.
Post by: sorijealut on Sat, 04 July 2015, 20:56:57
Still can't find a decent replacement for my g9x, anyone have any suggestions. I'm a claw grip and I prefer I but of weight to it.
For similar shaped mice I'd look into Logitech G302/G303, Corsair M45 or CM Storm Spawn.
First off the G302/303 isn't anything like the G9 (FACT), also the Corsair M45 is considerably larger than the humble G9 (FACT), so that only leaves the Storm Spawn which is slightly smaller than the G9.
If you love the G9 simply too much then stay with it because none of the current manufacturers have released anything like the G9 shape just yet.
Haha, have to agree with you there. Just going off of my own experience having owned those.
Nothing quite exactly like it obviously as the G9's shell had a unique feel. I can certainly recommend Spawn as I love that mouse, but I didn't really enjoy G303 as much.
Post by: iMav on Sat, 04 July 2015, 21:13:29
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 04 July 2015, 22:10:02
Here are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...Which one do you recommend? I have been thinking about both of these trackballs but don't know which one to choose
Post by: iMav on Sun, 05 July 2015, 00:37:31
Which one do you recommend? I have been thinking about both of these trackballs but don't know which one to choose
They are so different it is hard to compare. Ultimately, I like my "5-ball" better. (Even though scrolling with the slim blade is really nice)
Post by: henz on Sun, 05 July 2015, 02:53:25
(http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/306133-logitech-t650-wireless-rechargeable-touchpad.jpg)
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Tue, 07 July 2015, 19:22:15
Post by: wetto on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:41:20
Still can't find a decent replacement for my g9x, anyone have any suggestions. I'm a claw grip and I prefer I but of weight to it.
For similar shaped mice I'd look into Logitech G302/G303, Corsair M45 or CM Storm Spawn.
First off the G302/303 isn't anything like the G9 (FACT), also the Corsair M45 is considerably larger than the humble G9 (FACT), so that only leaves the Storm Spawn which is slightly smaller than the G9.
If you love the G9 simply too much then stay with it because none of the current manufacturers have released anything like the G9 shape just yet.
Haha, have to agree with you there. Just going off of my own experience having owned those.
Nothing quite exactly like it obviously as the G9's shell had a unique feel. I can certainly recommend Spawn as I love that mouse, but I didn't really enjoy G303 as much.
The Corsair Sabre comes closer, but honestly, I prefered the G9x with the slimmer cover :-X
Post by: iMav on Sun, 12 July 2015, 01:23:55
Gave up on mice due to increasing pain and nobody making a mouse very close to what I'd want. Now using CST L-Trac.
Love my L-Trac. Did you replace the ball with a billiard ball? (We had a thread at one point showing all the different billiard balls folks have used. Adds a bit of fun and uniqueness to the device.)
Post by: kennardsmith on Sun, 12 July 2015, 01:45:05
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Post by: davkol on Sun, 12 July 2015, 03:58:22
I usually only briefly touch the trackball to switch windows (focus follows cursor) or use it to scroll a bit. Mouse buttons on the keyboard are great for wheel-click copypasta (in X.Org) and spamming the cookie in Cookie Clicker. Finally, the mouse is for everything else, which isn't much in actuality.
Post by: Happylomo on Sun, 12 July 2015, 08:25:35
Post by: Bucake on Sun, 12 July 2015, 14:32:57
I'm tinkering with this guy, trying to create a mouse so that I can go keyboard-mostly and use a thumb on this mouse when it is more convenient.
(Attachment Link)
wow! what an awesome project
Post by: kennardsmith on Sun, 12 July 2015, 21:37:25
I'm tinkering with this guy, trying to create a mouse so that I can go keyboard-mostly and use a thumb on this mouse when it is more convenient.
(Attachment Link)
wow! what an awesome project
it's been fun so far! I'm a software guy so this is a fun learning experience.
Post by: v0idtek on Tue, 21 July 2015, 23:51:18
Post by: jukaduke1184 on Wed, 22 July 2015, 21:27:08
Post by: eddie on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:47:35
Post by: SeanyC on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:46:48
Using a white Steelseries Rival.
Surprisingly a really decent mouse, suits my preference well.
Does the white have a glossy finish?
My black rival has a matte finish, and im wondering if the gloss would be better with my oily hands.
Post by: sorijealut on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:09:42
Using a white Steelseries Rival.
Surprisingly a really decent mouse, suits my preference well.
Does the white have a glossy finish?
My black rival has a matte finish, and im wondering if the gloss would be better with my oily hands.
Right. The glossy version's got a more tacky feeling than the matte black (especially when you clean it, because it does accumulate some fingerprints and I need to clean it once in a while).
Myself, I don't think I have very oily hands, but very dry hands. I found the rubberized surface too slippery for me to hold actually.
I think the black version might be better for you.
Post by: smarmar on Mon, 03 August 2015, 14:23:20
I had one of these back in the day but, like a doofus, I chucked it when the cord got loose and caused the mouse to lose tracking.
Post by: smarmar on Tue, 04 August 2015, 15:08:03
My next refurb just arrived today. $15 Logitech G5. A bit rough around the edges and the scroll wheel sticks but nothing that a good cleaning won't fix (hopefully) :)
I had one of these back in the day but, like a doofus, I chucked it when the cord got loose and caused the mouse to lose tracking.
The gack that came out of this thing could've filled a thimble! No wonder the wheel and sensitivity buttons were unresponsive :rolleyes: Anyway, the mouse was definitely worth the price tag.
Does anyone know of a good method for cleaning the soft rubber parts of a mouse without turning them sticky? I've tried gently wiping with 90% isopropyl alcohol, water-dampened cloth, and Formula 409 to mixed results.
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:22:00
Post by: keshley on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:55:56
Think I'm going to go back to a Wacom for when I need fine control. Just recently purchased a small one for the kid, and now I'm missing having that kind of functionality...
Post by: Doyniish on Thu, 06 August 2015, 20:40:22
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/502/20171935389_eeb7332179_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wJwrBt)
Post by: njbair on Thu, 06 August 2015, 21:56:15
Here are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 06 August 2015, 22:01:14
when I get a trackball I am going to try and find a smiley face pool ballHere are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
Post by: njbair on Thu, 06 August 2015, 22:05:17
when I get a trackball I am going to try and find a smiley face pool ballHere are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
Hapster pool ball.
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 06 August 2015, 22:06:56
: o after searching for smiley pool balls, I found only 2 that were sold on ebay, and it might have been the same listing :(when I get a trackball I am going to try and find a smiley face pool ballHere are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
Hapster pool ball.
Post by: njbair on Thu, 06 August 2015, 22:10:18
: o after searching for smiley pool balls, I found only 2 that were sold on ebay, and it might have been the same listing :(when I get a trackball I am going to try and find a smiley face pool ballHere are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
Hapster pool ball.
http://www.ozonebilliards.com/custom-personalized-pool-balls.html
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 06 August 2015, 22:13:46
thanks!: o after searching for smiley pool balls, I found only 2 that were sold on ebay, and it might have been the same listing :(when I get a trackball I am going to try and find a smiley face pool ballHere are my two pointing devices I use in my home office...
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
Hapster pool ball.
http://www.ozonebilliards.com/custom-personalized-pool-balls.html
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 08 August 2015, 14:25:29
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 08 August 2015, 20:03:16
Have been using this one for more than a year.
Post by: dante on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:04:24
Post by: keshley on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:37:43
My RAT 5 is pretty awful. I'm waiting out until the Ducky Secret comes out before I buy a replacement though.
I somehow missed the Ducky Secret. That looks pretty nice! I was leaning towards a Func or maybe a Steelseries if my third Razer dies, but this looks like a possibly better option.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:59:15
What alternatives do I have? How is Magic Mouse? I really like the gestures of a trackpad so I am not sure I'd like a mouse as replacement.
Post by: Tactile on Thu, 13 August 2015, 23:33:24
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 14 August 2015, 04:32:37
still using microsoft wom ...I do keep one of these on my desk for the odd occasion I do need a different mouse (or when someone uses my desk). I swapped the left/right click for some Cherry microswitches I pulled from a G80-11900 which feel much nicer than the stock WMO switches (waaaay heavier though). I need to do something with the middle click as well but that's a little harder to replace as all the microswitch I can find don't fit.
Post by: Corey on Wed, 19 August 2015, 18:51:40
Post by: Zorox on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:07:19
Post by: Bomble on Fri, 21 August 2015, 01:20:27
Still worth it? Any Aussies know where I could potentially find a better price?
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 26 August 2015, 09:40:23
I still haven't pulled the trigger on a Zowie FK-1, because I can't find any for much below $100 :(
Still worth it? Any Aussies know where I could potentially find a better price?
Personally, I would say yes. I've currently got a Zowie AM, Intellimouse 3.0, SteelSeries Sensei, and a Logitech G5 just sitting, all of which have been replaced by the FK1. It's been the only mouse I've been able to stick with since the Sensei. The build quality is fantastic, it fits my hand and grip perfectly. I really have no complaints about it.
Post by: Bomble on Wed, 26 August 2015, 09:52:42
I still haven't pulled the trigger on a Zowie FK-1, because I can't find any for much below $100 :(
Still worth it? Any Aussies know where I could potentially find a better price?
Personally, I would say yes. I've currently got a Zowie AM, Intellimouse 3.0, SteelSeries Sensei, and a Logitech G5 just sitting, all of which have been replaced by the FK1. It's been the only mouse I've been able to stick with since the Sensei. The build quality is fantastic, it fits my hand and grip perfectly. I really have no complaints about it.
Thanks for the reply, sounds like I'm definitely getting one then. Just a matter of time now. ;D
Post by: spectre on Fri, 28 August 2015, 20:27:39
Logitech G700s
Same here.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 28 August 2015, 20:31:05
This reminds me, I just swapped the G700s for a G502.Logitech G700s
Same here.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 29 August 2015, 11:30:43
Hold the button underneath and scroll the wheel to change the colour which is nice and simple. It looks like it has a rubberized coating on the outside but it doesn't. It feels quite nice. Potato pics incoming.
More
(http://i.imgur.com/fZGd2XW.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/xt4ZbSH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xt4ZbSH.jpg)
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 29 August 2015, 21:16:13
Has a similar style to the (in)famous DA series but has a rather good quality casing. Has no sticky rubber coating at all it's plain ABS with textured sides which is nice when you have every other manufacturer spraying and applying top coats that wear away from the body over time.
Not too heavy for me but I'm not the average limp-wristed Geekhacker hence for me personally the weight is okay for everyday usage. The driver you download off their website automatically up dates your firmware so you can't avoid not to have the latest version installed (some might cry foul over that).
Overall it's really not bad because you can switch off all the leds so it stays quiet without attracting any attention. I know you can get either a Grey or Blue Coloured Model but I have instead received a completely Black Coloured casing which is rather good in matching my Hiro pad :thumb: .
I think I paid around $59.00AUD for it some months ago but have decided to try it out recently because it's time to test out various input devices instead of leaving them in their retail boxes.
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 01 September 2015, 07:41:13
Post by: dan002 on Thu, 03 September 2015, 12:59:45
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I will definitely get a transparent mouse again in the future! I like it very much.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 03 September 2015, 19:20:36
Ignoring that the left click button no longer 'clicks' and is silent. I also made the LED that glows different colors inside painted black (so the glow is only red).
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I will definitely get a transparent mouse again in the future! I like it very much.
Please let us know, is that mouse connected to a Mac >:( ?
Post by: dan002 on Thu, 03 September 2015, 19:46:06
Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 03 September 2015, 20:59:56
That does resemble some of Apple's transparent best forgotten mice. ;DIgnoring that the left click button no longer 'clicks' and is silent. I also made the LED that glows different colors inside painted black (so the glow is only red).
(Attachment Link)
I will definitely get a transparent mouse again in the future! I like it very much.
Please let us know, is that mouse connected to a Mac >:( ?
No. I'm using with a Windows PC I built with an i7 4790 and GTX 970. :thumb:You need something more capable than that to go with that hardware, i.e. G-502, SS Rival, EC1a, EC2a, FK1or2 etc. ^-^
Post by: dan002 on Mon, 07 September 2015, 06:30:08
Post by: snarfarlarkus on Tue, 08 September 2015, 00:52:46
Post by: dan002 on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:08:53
I've attached a picture.
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Post by: digi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:12:00
(http://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-11-27-puck.png)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:08:31
I use this mouse when I'm playing competitively on the road (upper rankings so to speak):Show Image(http://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-11-27-puck.png)
Yuck.........As I'm gouging out my eyes with a rusty fork, to be accosted by this deformed-hockey puck again, is too much to withstand here on GH.
You Sir are an extreme Sadist and shall be forever banished into the pits of Hell for even using this device that Jobsie shat out all those years ago.
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:18:28
Should be better for browsing GH :D
Post by: Lokomotivet on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:55:08
Post by: knightjp on Mon, 14 September 2015, 00:08:20
I use this mouse when I'm playing competitively on the road (upper rankings so to speak):Show Image(http://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-11-27-puck.png)
Probably the 1st time that I've seen anyone use that mouse by choice.
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 14 September 2015, 12:31:50
I use this mouse when I'm playing competitively on the road (upper rankings so to speak):Yeah, right. Anybody who uses that by choice must be a glutton for self-punishment.
Right now, aim using a tablet with a high-resolution touch-screen. I use a pencil as the pointing device.
(Lenovo ANYPEN)
Post by: knightjp on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:32:47
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 15 September 2015, 03:56:20
I use this mouse when I'm playing competitively on the road (upper rankings so to speak):Show Image(http://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-11-27-puck.png)
Probably the 1st time that I've seen anyone use that mouse by choice.
It's most probably a JOKE hence he or she only posted it to get a rise out of us.
Very nasty indeed but it helps get the venom nicely centered upon what Jobsie had always failed to do, make a REAL decent Computer Mouse.
Post by: dan002 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 10:55:09
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 17 September 2015, 10:58:45
I switch between the Sensei and CST depending on what I'm doing and only use the trackpad when I use OSX.
Post by: TopreFan333 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 11:44:27
(http://texasdiscountelectronics.com/assets/images/ms111-1.jpg)
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=corp&sku=330-9456
I've been using literally this same exact one for about 3 years and it's always really reliable, fits right in my hand, scrolls well, tracks well (I do a lot of Illustrator and Photoshop stuff), and I like how light and easy to move around it is.
In the time that I've had it, I've had two different much more expensive Logitech mice die at home -- one of them just started registering double-clicks instead of single-clicks, which was of course a disaster. I ended up buying another one of these cheap-ass Dells (for like $10 on Amazon, I think), and it's been working great ever since. I also have a Magic Trackpad, which is nice for gestures, but very tiring (for me anyway) if I use it for very long at all.
Believe me, I'm as baffled as anyone else. This mouse should be terrible, but it's totally not.
Post by: neverused on Thu, 17 September 2015, 12:14:29
I'm tinkering with this guy, trying to create a mouse so that I can go keyboard-mostly and use a thumb on this mouse when it is more convenient.Did this ever come to fruition?
(Attachment Link)
Post by: TopreFan333 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 12:34:01
It's most probably a JOKE hence he or she only posted it to get a rise out of us.
...what Jobsie had always failed to do, make a REAL decent Computer Mouse.
Seriously. I'm a lifelong Mac user, but the mice are almost always terrible.
Post by: jerue on Thu, 17 September 2015, 13:53:37
I'm gonna get a lot of crap for this, but I really like the cheap-ass Dell mouse that I have at my work.Show Image(http://texasdiscountelectronics.com/assets/images/ms111-1.jpg)
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=corp&sku=330-9456
I've been using literally this same exact one for about 3 years and it's always really reliable, fits right in my hand, scrolls well, tracks well (I do a lot of Illustrator and Photoshop stuff), and I like how light and easy to move around it is.
In the time that I've had it, I've had two different much more expensive Logitech mice die at home -- one of them just started registering double-clicks instead of single-clicks, which was of course a disaster. I ended up buying another one of these cheap-ass Dells (for like $10 on Amazon, I think), and it's been working great ever since. I also have a Magic Trackpad, which is nice for gestures, but very tiring (for me anyway) if I use it for very long at all.
Believe me, I'm as baffled as anyone else. This mouse should be terrible, but it's totally not.
Dell makes pretty good products, we also have these mice at work and they aren't bad.
Speaking of mice, does anyone have or have ever used the Razer Ouroboros? It has such an intriguing display case yet if I wanted to spend that kind of $$$ I'd buy a MX Master.
Post by: kennardsmith on Fri, 18 September 2015, 01:11:59
I'm tinkering with this guy, trying to create a mouse so that I can go keyboard-mostly and use a thumb on this mouse when it is more convenient.Did this ever come to fruition?
(Attachment Link)
I got it working to a point where it was somewhat usable. With acceleration I could move a cursor across my 13" screen in only a couple of swipes. Plus when rolling slow I was still be able to aim at buttons.
Unfortunately, diagonal movement is awful with this set-up.
The ball rests on four rollers. When they spin, they drive hall-effect sensors for up, down, left and right directions. The ball resists rolling against two rollers at once. It prefers one axis rather than a diagonal movement. I tried a couple similar parts to make it work (including gutting a mighty mouse for its scroll ball). Nothing seemed to work well enough.
All this work makes me need a programmable mouse so my new project is a boring thumbball.
Post by: neverused on Fri, 18 September 2015, 01:13:48
Well good job trying, it's always a learning experience. Please be sure to pay about your next project, a build log is always nice. Good luck!I'm tinkering with this guy, trying to create a mouse so that I can go keyboard-mostly and use a thumb on this mouse when it is more convenient.Did this ever come to fruition?
(Attachment Link)
I got it working to a point where it was somewhat usable. With acceleration I could move a cursor across my 13" screen in only a couple of swipes. Plus when rolling slow I was still be able to aim at buttons.
Unfortunately, diagonal movement is awful with this set-up.
The ball rests on four rollers. When they spin, they drive hall-effect sensors for up, down, left and right directions. The ball resists rolling against two rollers at once. It prefers one axis rather than a diagonal movement. I tried a couple similar parts to make it work (including gutting a mighty mouse for its scroll ball). Nothing seemed to work well enough.
All this work makes me need a programmable mouse so my new project is a boring thumbball.
Post by: davkol on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:38:41
Dell makes pretty good products, we also have these mice at work and they aren't bad.Dell only rebrands pointing devices. Their old mice were made by Logitech and quite rock solid; Idk who makes the latest ones.
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:46:49
Dell makes pretty good products, we also have these mice at work and they aren't bad.Dell only rebrands pointing devices. Their old mice were made by Logitech and quite rock solid; Idk who makes the latest ones.
The earlier Logitech made ones were superb, compared to the current Idk garbage >:D .
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 19 September 2015, 00:58:00
Post by: UTEster750 on Sat, 19 September 2015, 02:03:41
Post by: iMav on Thu, 24 September 2015, 04:52:56
Just curious, is the 5-ball significant, or just one you had lying around? I'm currently looking to grab a pool ball for my L-Trac but I need inspiration on what to pick.
The 5-ball is orange. The L-Trac is black. Just wanted traditional GH colors. ;)
Post by: keshley on Tue, 06 October 2015, 06:51:48
Post by: Mainian on Wed, 07 October 2015, 08:28:26
Play: Zowie FK1
Post by: mrgoldenzombie on Sat, 31 October 2015, 00:40:09
Post by: kebby on Sat, 31 October 2015, 05:13:45
Post by: ripwallet on Sat, 31 October 2015, 23:37:49
Post by: daerid on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:29:01
Just ordered a Mionix Castor (how could I not after Elrick's rave review) and hopefully it will be my new go-to mouse.
Post by: keyboardia1 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 14:33:38
I use this mouse when I'm playing competitively on the road (upper rankings so to speak):that was by far the worst thing apple ever made :/Show Image(http://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-11-27-puck.png)
(you know aside from switching from alps switches to membrane keyboards)
Post by: davkol on Fri, 20 November 2015, 11:40:06
Post by: grav3serker on Sat, 21 November 2015, 23:46:29
Post by: davkol on Sun, 22 November 2015, 08:01:48
Has anyone used a CST Trackball? They look awesome and simple, and the fact that I can leave it plugged in and switch between my Zowie and this seems pretty appealing. Anyone have any experience with these guys?http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cst+site%3Ageekhack.org
Post by: grav3serker on Sun, 22 November 2015, 09:55:41
Quick question. What is the point of adding a colon to the search? I've never used that to search for something in my 28 years of existence, unless it was part of what I was searching for, of course.Has anyone used a CST Trackball? They look awesome and simple, and the fact that I can leave it plugged in and switch between my Zowie and this seems pretty appealing. Anyone have any experience with these guys?http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cst+site%3Ageekhack.org
Oh, and thank you
Post by: davkol on Sun, 22 November 2015, 10:59:32
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2466433Quick question. What is the point of adding a colon to the search? I've never used that to search for something in my 28 years of existence, unless it was part of what I was searching for, of course.Has anyone used a CST Trackball? They look awesome and simple, and the fact that I can leave it plugged in and switch between my Zowie and this seems pretty appealing. Anyone have any experience with these guys?http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cst+site%3Ageekhack.org
Oh, and thank you
Post by: shortround on Mon, 23 November 2015, 01:33:06
Post by: _joe_king on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:12:06
I used a gen. 1 Death Adder for years. I liked the feel and functionality (except when Razer Synapse would log me out at random times). The mouse of course got grimy after a while no matter how many times I cleaned it, so I recently replaced it with a Sensei Raw. I'm liking the Steelseries software more than Razer's, but I shouldn't have gone with a symmetrical mouse (I probably should have gone with the Rival). I'm missing the ergonomics that I used to have so I'm going to try a Mionix Naos 7000.
I had a very similar issue with synapse that forced me to switch back to my g5. I tried a steelseries but my hand would sweat like nobodies business on that thing :/
Post by: Moratorius on Sat, 02 January 2016, 17:54:08
Post by: keshley on Sat, 02 January 2016, 21:15:31
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 02 January 2016, 21:25:13
Post by: 7Teku on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:15:07
Post by: dan002 on Wed, 13 January 2016, 19:16:37
I'm currently using a Logitech G502, but I'm not a fan of the thumb button. I was using a Steelseries Rival, but its rubber grips melted into a pile of goo... otherwise I would have gotten another one.
I have the same mouse. Only use left and right click,center whee, and the two button on the left thumb forward and back. All the other buttons I don't use.
I currently have 3 3.9 grams weights, What do you use?
Post by: Zustiur on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:56:41
Post by: toidbb on Thu, 14 January 2016, 23:30:30
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 15 January 2016, 00:21:48
for right, i use the logitech G400.
i have a zowie FK2 as well, but the small mouse cramps my hands. unfortunately the DA is too big for my liking. and i'm not really a fan of the G400 shape either.. :D
(man, life is rough!)
i've been thinking about getting a Kana V2 because i really liked the shape, last time i tried it. however, it's getting a bit dated..
does anyone know of newer mice that have a very (very) similar shape to the steelseries kana v2?
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 22 January 2016, 17:56:42
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FNKMVUO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61d8gAK3gTL._SL1000_.jpg)
Post by: davkol on Sat, 25 February 2017, 15:56:12
in front of the keyboard: Contour Rollermouse Free2
right hand: Mionix Castor or Elecom XT2
Each is somehow imperfect.
Avior's side buttons rattle a little bit. The shell is "flat" ambidextrous, thus there's a bit too much hand pronation at times (thus multiple pointing devices). Configuration options are underwhelming, hence I've only swapped left/right button actions… I miss Roccat's EasyShift. Luckily, I finally have a Kova Pure in the mail (after my previous attempts at buying it failed, due to being out of stock or the vendor messing up).
Castor is alright for the most part (as a "dumb" mouse), except its coating somehow feels gross, when I'm a bit sweaty. I wonder why my Kone Pure [Military/Color] sits in the closet…
At last but not least, the rollermouse. Free2 feels flimsier than the old Pro, but about everything else is better. Except the default button mapping is completely stupid, and can't be changed without proprietary drivers for proprietary OS'. The middle large button serves as "left doubleclick" instead of "wheel click", and while the new wide wheel is pretty good, its lack of tactility while scrolling leads to accidental scrolling, when attempting to click instead. Left-/right-handed orientation can't be swapped with a DIP switch or something. And Copy/Paste buttons, that send Ctrl-C/V? Seriously? O_o Yeah, and calibration for a triple-screen setup is weird.
Post by: Viking_Robot on Sun, 26 February 2017, 14:00:53
Post by: Murdari0 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 10:21:59
The superior ambi sub 80g mouse, G100s.
I finally ditched my ancient g5 for a 102 a few weeks ago, wish I'd moved to this shell sooner.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 March 2017, 10:24:47
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 March 2017, 16:10:32
Post by: smarmar on Tue, 21 March 2017, 10:30:27
left-handed DA because my RSI (right arm) kicked in again :(
for right, i use the logitech G400.
i have a zowie FK2 as well, but the small mouse cramps my hands. unfortunately the DA is too big for my liking. and i'm not really a fan of the G400 shape either.. :D
(man, life is rough!)
I love the shape of the G400 and the rest of the Logitech G series around that time (G5, MX510, MX518, etc). Although, I haven't tried very many mouses beyond the Logitech, Microsoft, and cheapo Dell brands.
That sucks about your RSI. I hope you don't have raver's wrist! :confused:
Raver’s Wrist: A postmodern repetitive stress injury caused by repeated rotation of the hands for many hours—e.g., while holding glow sticks during a rave.
Post by: cloudpost on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:41:38
Post by: robertdane101 on Thu, 06 April 2017, 02:47:22
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Post by: Severe on Fri, 14 April 2017, 12:13:14
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 16 April 2017, 12:14:11
I'm getting curious about another sensors... you know... gear acquisition syndrome.
I wanna try the Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum. But it's so ugly! Why hasn't the sensor already been put in other mice? It's been long enough now!
Post by: bastones on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:13:23
Had this for over a year - it's a vertical ergonomic mouse. Weird design but it's much more comfortable for me. I've tried using normal mice since and they are just really uncomfortable - I've got used to this form factor now.
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:34:42
Post by: Bucake on Tue, 02 May 2017, 03:51:33
for my needs it's probably the best mouse out there, quality-wise. there are a bunch more fantastic mice, but those mice have features i have no need for (wireless, extra buttons, free scroll wheel, etc), and these features just end up getting in the way of my use.
it's weird to grab another mouse just to immediately feel this step down in build quality: mushy-feeling clicks, slippery texture, lousy scroll wheel, stiff cable, high weight, etc.
unfortunately the shape of the g403 is not that great for me, so i'll probably switch to something else (again) when i get tired of "making it work".
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 02 May 2017, 07:26:36
back to the wired g403 for now!
for my needs it's probably the best mouse out there, quality-wise. there are a bunch more fantastic mice, but those mice have features i have no need for (wireless, extra buttons, free scroll wheel, etc), and these features just end up getting in the way of my use.
it's weird to grab another mouse just to immediately feel this step down in build quality: mushy-feeling clicks, slippery texture, lousy scroll wheel, stiff cable, high weight, etc.
unfortunately the shape of the g403 is not that great for me, so i'll probably switch to something else (again) when i get tired of "making it work".
What did you use before then?
Post by: digisax on Fri, 05 May 2017, 20:30:01
Post by: davkol on Tue, 30 May 2017, 15:59:03
Avior's side buttons rattle a little bit. The shell is "flat" ambidextrous, thus there's a bit too much hand pronation at times (thus multiple pointing devices). Configuration options are underwhelming, hence I've only swapped left/right button actions… I miss Roccat's EasyShift. Luckily, I finally have a Kova Pure in the mail (after my previous attempts at buying it failed, due to being out of stock or the vendor messing up).So, I've been using the Kova Pure/2016 for a while.
My only (somewhat nitpicky) complaints are that
- sweaty hands leave some residue on the coating as if it were just glossy plastic; I can't remember anything like this with the older coating on savu, lua and kone pure;
- the main buttons could've been slightly softer and less clicky;
- holding the EasyShift button always lights up both sources (wheel and strike in the rear) in bright blue, meh;
- the shape could've been closer to the avior: perhaps wider in the middle and longer in the rear?
Otherwise, it's as good as expected ("titan" wheel, remapping, assembly, tracking) or even better: the configuration UI in GNU/Linux drivers appears more organized (finally) and the top side buttons are fantastic (I use them for Page Up/Down or Home/End w/ EasyShift).
Post by: Severe on Sun, 06 August 2017, 13:59:59
Post by: fleischverpackung on Fri, 18 August 2017, 11:45:56
Post by: LastBrat on Wed, 27 September 2017, 13:12:02
I've been using an intuos tablet for over 10 years now, love it for games where you have a cursor, makes left click effortless and you use your arm instead of just your wrist. Recommended!
Post by: ojrask on Mon, 16 October 2017, 14:31:35
Post by: TheOtherDave on Mon, 16 October 2017, 16:35:44
FWIW, I wish I’d gotten the Logitech equivalent to the Naga because its software is craptastic on my system, but the software for my G13 works mostly kinda fineish (they both have issues, but Logitech’s bugs don’t bite me as hard or as often... YMMV).
(Having to deal with driver bugs is part of why I decided to build my keyboard... open-source firmware means that if I come across a bug that the vendor isn’t fixing quickly enough, I can do it myself.)
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 18 October 2017, 10:54:28
Looks like an Alps clone encoder but I could be wrong about that. Left hand for Linux and right hand for Windows/Gaming. Perhaps a prelude to Zowie's FK1.
edit - added picture
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Post by: hasu on Wed, 18 October 2017, 20:09:48
My daily driver has been trusy MX510 for long time.
(https://i.imgur.com/sxHtMSeh.jpg)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 18 October 2017, 20:27:11
Post by: SBJ on Thu, 19 October 2017, 02:27:48
I've been playing with rotary encoders these days and set up etch-a-sketch pointing device. I never seen the toy in this country and I don' t know which dial controls X axis and which does Y in legitimate setup.Man my MX510 would still be alive today if someone hadn't spilled coffee on it. Great mouse!
My daily driver has been trusy MX510 for long time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sxHtMSeh.jpg)
Post by: davkol on Thu, 19 October 2017, 14:47:23
The shape is weird, but other than that… finally a mouse with proper three buttons on top! The thumb wheel and tilting back/forward button is alright. Also, the build quality is fairly decent (unlike in some other ergonomic mice—for example, the Humanscale one was particularly shoddy).
There's a left-handed version too…
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:15:41
Post by: Shenpai on Fri, 20 October 2017, 19:28:30
Post by: maylily on Sun, 22 October 2017, 00:13:37
Post by: davkol on Thu, 01 February 2018, 06:56:23
It's funny, because I have a heap of various decent mice at home, but I can't be arsed to carry a mousepad around and hate using a mouse without any decent mousepad.
Post by: Chevy_Monsenhor on Sun, 11 February 2018, 12:12:52
The M570 is my jack of all trades, i have it for as long as 3 years, i use it on my desk at home, i take it to work every morning, i use it on my couch at home, on the go with laptop, where i go, i take it with me. Its so used in fact, i had to change the click buttons once and the ball twice! I'm considering leaving it at work and buying a new Elecom HUGE for home.
The G102 is just the gaming *****, it can take my bangs pretty well, its very light and has a great sensor.
Post by: Kira on Mon, 05 March 2018, 19:08:12
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:23:55
At office, I have Elecone DEFT trackball.
I plan to get Logitech MX Ergo soon as I'm intrigued by its tilt feature
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 07 March 2018, 05:49:58
Post by: dgreekstallion on Thu, 08 March 2018, 13:27:31
Post by: ShivaYash on Fri, 16 March 2018, 14:26:18
Post by: seva1385 on Mon, 26 March 2018, 17:43:24
Post by: notflipperdan420 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:24:19
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Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 06 April 2018, 10:43:04
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 April 2018, 19:04:45
Logicool G602
they got dat G603 now..
Time to UPdate!!
Post by: davkol on Sat, 07 April 2018, 08:08:54
Logicool G602
they got dat G603 now..
Time to UPdate!!
The new Gx03 line-up appears to be more of a complete redesign than an incremental update. I haven't really checked, but G403, G603 and G703 look like the exact same mouse only with different internal features (mainly wireless). OTOH, the old G700(s) had a very different shape (closer to MX Performance), though, and so did G602 (not to mention G600) with more thumb buttons.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:52:17
Logicool G602
they got dat G603 now..
Time to UPdate!!
The new Gx03 line-up appears to be more of a complete redesign than an incremental update. I haven't really checked, but G403, G603 and G703 look like the exact same mouse only with different internal features (mainly wireless). OTOH, the old G700(s) had a very different shape (closer to MX Performance), though, and so did G602 (not to mention G600) with more thumb buttons.
The 403 603 703 are all descendants of the original MX500 shape.. it really just removed the lower left wing under the thumb
603 has the latest hero sensor. it's super efficient while maintaining 1000hz. 10x the power efficiency of pixart 3366 sensor.
Post by: davkol on Sat, 07 April 2018, 12:01:47
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 07 April 2018, 15:58:35
That's cool and stuff, unless one wants a different shape or a different set of features (such as the extra buttons on G600 or G602).
They're going to update the m0ar buttons line eventually.
But the improvement of the 603 hero sensor is too large to ignore, even at the reductions of a few buttons..
Because we're looking at the market as it is NOW, and dat sensor.. super awesome..
Post by: davkol on Sat, 07 April 2018, 16:32:17
No sensor improvement matters, if it isn't noticeable.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 07 April 2018, 18:22:12
I'm currently using a mouse (Kone Pure Color) with A9080 (iirc) and don't care at all, although I have the PWM-3310 version (Kone Pure Military) in the closet; I also have no interest in upgrading to the Owl's Eye. I don't even know what sensitivity setting I'm using off the top of my head.
No sensor improvement matters, if it isn't noticeable.
The 3360 series sensor is suppose to be (m0ar r4w) than the 3310.
Gotta get with the technology davkol !!
Post by: davkol on Sun, 08 April 2018, 03:28:17
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 April 2018, 06:42:07
Conspicuous consumption (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption)
Yes, because now with a $50 computer mice, everyone thinks Tp4 is 5uper r1ch. !!
(https://i.imgur.com/UzALKpm.gif)
Post by: domsch1988 on Fri, 20 April 2018, 03:45:42
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 20 April 2018, 19:40:44
Since Release i've switched my MX Performance for the MX Ergo. Really happy with that. The lack of the free flow scrollwheel is not that great, but scrolling with the trackball itself is nearly as good.
Does the mx ergo have angle-snapping or is there an option to turn it off.
Post by: euclid on Sat, 21 April 2018, 19:17:29
No angle-snapping.Since Release i've switched my MX Performance for the MX Ergo. Really happy with that. The lack of the free flow scrollwheel is not that great, but scrolling with the trackball itself is nearly as good.
Does the mx ergo have angle-snapping or is there an option to turn it off.
not like m585 has strong angle-snapping and can not be turn off. :mad:
Post by: riktors on Thu, 26 April 2018, 14:24:37
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 April 2018, 20:42:44
Logitech G500s sur mon bureau depuis 4 ans, irremplaçable :-*
Pssssshhh.. G500 is a good looking mouse.. but it can't compete with the latest 3366
Post by: MrMen on Fri, 04 May 2018, 11:43:29
Post by: davkol on Mon, 07 May 2018, 17:18:57
It works quite well with the SC Controller software on GNU/Linux desktop.
Okay, right now I'm typing, though, and not gripping the controller; I have a CST L-Trac next to the keyboard.
Before that, I used the built in pointing devices in my thinkpad, i.e., a genuine trackpoint and a T450 trackpad, or a Mionix Avior SK in the office (I've also bought another Roccat Kova 2016 to enjoy EasyShift both at home and in the office).
Post by: Pewpew on Thu, 07 June 2018, 20:32:28
Post by: T14 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:07:10
- Rollermouse Red+
- Ltrac
- Surface Pen
- Spacemouse wireless
But right now I'm on a tablet, so my finger on a digitizer screen.
Post by: ADFX_Pixy on Sun, 08 July 2018, 16:39:43
Post by: typo on Mon, 09 July 2018, 06:12:31
TP, do you use a mouse or trackball? Since I think you know this stuff it shall validate or discredit what I use.
I do think you mentioned a couple of days ago as I agree that trackballs simply do not have the performance of say G903.
Is there a hack to bring G903 to 3389? Not that I need it. There is no way I would use other than Logitech even if others have the 3389 for bragging rights. Certainly not razer. Coolermaster or some such have a 3389 too. Junk. Cannot compare to G903. Which means of course with the new sensor Logitech will be updating it soon. Yet again. I will buy, sucker!
To me L-Track, Slimblade etc is like driving a 10 year old Kia. The G903=Ferrari.
Post by: nachie on Mon, 09 July 2018, 14:45:06
Post by: Tactile on Tue, 10 July 2018, 10:26:39
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Post by: dgneo on Tue, 10 July 2018, 10:27:29
Work: EC2-eVo
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 July 2018, 12:41:02
So far I'm undecided.
It may be a better fit at home versus work but I'll give it a few days.
Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 10 July 2018, 13:19:40
TP4
Well there's your problem. :))
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 July 2018, 20:02:18
TP4
Well there's your problem. :))
Tp4 = G4m3r G34R Xpert !!
(https://i.imgur.com/9cLx1zH.gif)
Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 11 July 2018, 00:40:36
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?&id=570009774507
I actually found out about this a few weeks ago but it was no longer for sale and I was really disappointed, but luckily they've decided to do a second batch so I immediately grabbed one. I've owned a lot of mice over the years and with the precision grip it's still the only mouse that I can go back to and immediately feel comfortable with (other mice I have to get reacquainted with first).
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 11 July 2018, 09:44:58
So I'm pretty excited, someone in China developed a straight clone of the G9/G9x with a centered 3360:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?&id=570009774507
I actually found out about this a few weeks ago but it was no longer for sale and I was really disappointed, but luckily they've decided to do a second batch so I immediately grabbed one. I've owned a lot of mice over the years and with the precision grip it's still the only mouse that I can go back to and immediately feel comfortable with (other mice I have to get reacquainted with first).
Have you got it already if so any thoughts? and does it come with the different grips? I still have a semi functional g9x that I gave to my GF but would love a new one :)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 11 July 2018, 13:30:17
So I'm pretty excited, someone in China developed a straight clone of the G9/G9x with a centered 3360:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?&id=570009774507
I actually found out about this a few weeks ago but it was no longer for sale and I was really disappointed, but luckily they've decided to do a second batch so I immediately grabbed one. I've owned a lot of mice over the years and with the precision grip it's still the only mouse that I can go back to and immediately feel comfortable with (other mice I have to get reacquainted with first).
Guys, the G9x is only desirable because it's elusive, and the Fanbois/Hipsters cash in on being Outsiders/Unique by (Talking about it)
It's like the Goth kids at school, it's a matter of carving out a special identity, more so than actual mouse performance.
OVERALL.. There's nothing terribly special about the G9x.
The Gpro, G100s,G203,G302,G303,G305 all have roughly the same profile which match the grip/usage scenarios of the G9x..
And the 3366 is tuned by Logitech, so you know it Wurkz g00d, whereas the off the shelf 336x versions don't have that verification expertise by our lord/savior François Morier
Post by: qq on Wed, 11 July 2018, 19:18:15
I also have the Wacom CTH480 which is also very good for handwriting, sketching, and photoshop, but it's far from good as the trackpad in general use. Otherwise, in the worst case, I think Apple has educated me so well on their products. :-\
For occasional gaming, I have Steelseries rival 100 which is nothing fancy but generally very good.
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 11 July 2018, 19:57:41
Apple Trackpad is probably the best for general purpose to me, I've struggled to switch off to Windows/Linux distro due to their lack of seamless experience as the trackpad on macOS.
I also have the Wacom CTH480 which is also very good for handwriting, sketching, and photoshop, but it's far from good as the trackpad in general use. Otherwise, in the worst case, I think Apple has educated me so well on their products. :-\
For occasional gaming, I have Steelseries rival 100 which is nothing fancy but generally very good.
I can only imagine what libinput (linux touchpad solution) is like with Apple products. I have a hard enough time with libinput and (sans Linux Mint..) Windows based products.
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 12 July 2018, 01:55:59
Shape is king; 3360 OEMs/knockoffs are fine since the sensor is good out of the box and doesn't require tuning to mitigate flaws like older/lesser sensors do (well, unless you use a high CPI which even logitech couldn't remove the smoothing from). Obviously logitech will provide better software and have better QC, but unless a company actively adds smoothing or something, a generic 3360 should perform about the same. To me, shape is king so I'll take a great sensor with shape I love over a slightly greater sensor with shape I find decent.
Also Atlas I just placed the order a couple days ago so it'll be a while before I get it, but I'll give some impressions. It doesn't come with the shells though, so you'd need to buy some from ebay.
Post by: Tactile on Sun, 15 July 2018, 11:55:11
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Post by: Kinami on Tue, 31 July 2018, 04:32:19
Clearly Superior Technology L-track
Absolutely the best. I got 2, one for home and one at work. No mouse-clutching tendonitis.
Post by: Kinami on Tue, 31 July 2018, 04:34:28
https://www.online-ergonomics.co.uk/product/wowpen-joy-mouse/
But I bought it really cheaply in NY about 10 years ago.
Post by: Ephemeral on Fri, 03 August 2018, 15:08:31
Post by: aya3154 on Sat, 04 August 2018, 10:27:31
Post by: ThoughtArtist on Sat, 04 August 2018, 23:42:39
House sitting for a buddy, using his Razer DeathAdder. Not a fan.
Yes. Those are horrid with how they force out your right fingers to an unnatural grip angle.
I'm currently using my g402 with the Joe Blow ergonomic fix for the "sniper" button. I still rarely use the button, but at least it doesn't irritate the hell out of my thumb now.
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Post by: SBJ on Wed, 15 August 2018, 09:49:14
(https://i.imgur.com/xXrBgWx.jpg)
Holy crap do I love this mouse.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 15 August 2018, 12:36:55
Logitech MX Master 2SShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/xXrBgWx.jpg)
Holy crap do I love this mouse.
But, it no haz the HERO sensor !!!
(https://i.imgur.com/etrq7qZ.gif)
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Post by: SBJ on Thu, 16 August 2018, 06:50:37
And I don't NEED the hero sensor.Logitech MX Master 2SShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/xXrBgWx.jpg)
Holy crap do I love this mouse.
But, it no haz the HERO sensor !!!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/etrq7qZ.gif)
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It works perfectly on the surface I have here at home.
Post by: skang0601 on Sun, 26 August 2018, 17:23:25
Kensington Slimblade
For Home:
Elecom Deft Pro
Backup for Home & Work:
Logitech MX Master
The Slimblade is so comfy, but generally I avoid using the mouse anyways.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Thu, 06 September 2018, 10:53:25
Post by: 8Bitterness on Wed, 12 September 2018, 22:01:34
At work a CST L-Trac and an MX master.
Post by: Aerizu on Wed, 12 September 2018, 22:20:05
Definitely expensive, but I like it more than my G304.
I wouldn't recommend it for its price, unless you're an enthusiast.
Post by: TheGlyph on Tue, 09 October 2018, 12:59:02
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Post by: lasttycoon on Thu, 25 October 2018, 18:27:44
Post by: SBJ on Fri, 26 October 2018, 07:11:20
MY FINGER.NEXT LEVEL.
There are very few touch pads I find acceptable. We have about 150 of the HP Probook 430 G2's at work and I've had to open up about 20 and fix the touch pads myself (and that's after we had two HP support reps onsite to fix all 150 models) For some reason the tape that is supposed to ground it is placed poorly on that model.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:45:04
MY FINGER.NEXT LEVEL.
There are very few touch pads I find acceptable. We have about 150 of the HP Probook 430 G2's at work and I've had to open up about 20 and fix the touch pads myself (and that's after we had two HP support reps onsite to fix all 150 models) For some reason the tape that is supposed to ground it is placed poorly on that model.
prolly not Thicc enough..
Post by: no, the other guy on Sun, 16 December 2018, 11:41:22
Those thumb buttons are confusing though, I keep accidentally pressing them. I surely miss the good old three-button no-wheel Pilot Mouse.
Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 16 December 2018, 12:31:26
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 16 December 2018, 22:35:08
Elecom Deft Pro
For Home:
Swiftpoint the Z
Post by: Darkside on Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:05:38
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Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 11 March 2019, 07:02:01
Post by: KebinPls on Tue, 12 March 2019, 12:39:10
I use an MX Master 2S when travelling to clients and at the office. It is FANTASTIC. god, the buttons, scroll wheels, thumb buttons and the integrated button in the thumb rest that also works using directional input + press, this thing is a work setup dream. I tried using trackballs, but weirdly enough, they ended up hurting my wrist when it typically helps other people with wrist pain.
Post by: freqout on Fri, 05 April 2019, 14:58:19
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Post by: SBJ on Sun, 26 May 2019, 00:21:53
Unfortunately the MX518 Legendary didn't work out for me.
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 26 May 2019, 06:33:36
Post by: Namaste on Fri, 27 March 2020, 23:18:01
Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 30 March 2020, 04:02:09
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Mon, 30 March 2020, 09:29:11
A very old school Steelseries Sensei. These weren't super reliable but they are about as barebones as you can get for a mouse with good tracking.
Man, I had 3 of the OG steelseries sensei, and when they worked they were killer. I loved the heft of the mouse, and the semi-mirror-like sheen finish was really cool, and easy to clean. (Which I did often, with not so damp wipes. I'd get inside the mouse if it ever got really gross as well.
That said, each of mine went out one after another usually taking about a year to completely die.
Had they lasted it would've been the last mouse I ever used. I'm still sad I couldn't get one to last.
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Post by: Darthbaggins on Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:31:29
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:25:45
I'm using the Elecom HUGE
you just made me realize that I never actually posted to the point of the thread myself.
I too am using the Elecom HUGE.
Post by: funkmon on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:30:27
I'm using the Elecom HUGE
you just made me realize that I never actually posted to the point of the thread myself.
I too am using the Elecom HUGE.
Man that's huge. What's the biggest mouse without a trackball, because that sounds like my style!
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:35:49
I'm using the Elecom HUGE
you just made me realize that I never actually posted to the point of the thread myself.
I too am using the Elecom HUGE.
Man that's huge. What's the biggest mouse without a trackball, because that sounds like my style!
Personally of non-trackball mice,
The wired Steelseries sensei I complained about was quite big, and quite heavy which I really liked personally. I just can't say anything nice about their reliability at all.
The best and largest not Steelseries mouse I've ever seen was an old Microsoft Mouse, one of the first optical ones, it was a huge tan monstrosity, and was actually not too bad to use.
Sorry I don't have a model number for that, but I do know that old Microsoft mice last forever and are big.
Post by: funkmon on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:57:06
The tan monstrosity label fits the Model M I use...
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 08 April 2020, 20:33:29
Welp, guess who's about to spend $40 on ebay for one new in box?
The tan monstrosity label fits the Model M I use...
Wait you found one?! Lemme see. I can tell you if it's the one I'm thinking of, I'd be careful too, alot of those old ones don't have scroll wheels, unless that's not a big thing for ya.
I'd just be interested to see because they are old and cool too. :D
Post by: funkmon on Wed, 08 April 2020, 20:38:02
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Microsoft-Wheel-Mouse-Optical-1-1-Win32-PS2-USB-PC-Mac-Right-Left-Hand/233544387634?epid=19009497125&hash=item3660548c32%3Ag%3AmJYAAOSwkvhePzjL&LH_ItemCondition=1500
that's basically Intellimouse 1.0, but made a little bit later at a bargain price.
(https://i.imgur.com/K4OdsMHl.png)
Okay now someone help me. This thing has 400 DPI. How can I use it and not fly all over my desk when I use the mouse?
EDIT: Ahh, figured it out with some registry edits after setting my current mouse to 400 DPI. This is the way to go!
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 08 April 2020, 22:38:19
I do need a scroll wheel, but luckily the first optical mice were Microsoft's Intellimouse brand, which all had that scroll wheel, and the designs of the early ones are essentially identical to some of the later cheap optical mice Microsoft sold, so if we look at this bad lad right here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Microsoft-Wheel-Mouse-Optical-1-1-Win32-PS2-USB-PC-Mac-Right-Left-Hand/233544387634?epid=19009497125&hash=item3660548c32%3Ag%3AmJYAAOSwkvhePzjL&LH_ItemCondition=1500
that's basically Intellimouse 1.0, but made a little bit later at a bargain price.
Okay now someone help me. This thing has 400 DPI. How can I use it and not fly all over my desk when I use the mouse?
EDIT: Ahh, figured it out with some registry edits after setting my current mouse to 400 DPI. This is the way to go!
That brought me right back to the late 90's and early 2000's, that mouse is no frills, built well, and will last forever.
I'm very spartan in my mouse tastes, but I really feel like these were peak mice.
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 09 April 2020, 19:28:07
(https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images2500x2500/1332939221_850371.jpg)
They make two modern versions: the Classic Intelimouse (not a great sensor, but suitable for office use) and the Pro Intellimouse (gaming grade). I think one of them is definitely worth picking up, the IME3.0 shape stands as one of the most comfortable. Same with the WMO but sadly there isn't a modern version. You can crank up your windows sensitivity to combat the 400 DPI, but it'll result in pixel skipping.
On topic, I'm currently using the Cooler Master MM710. Not a perfect mouse but the stubby but wide shape reminds me of one of my favorites, the G9/G9x. Whenever the Ninox Astrum releases I'll likely switch to that and use the WMO shape since that's one of my favorite shapes.
Post by: funkmon on Fri, 10 April 2020, 12:32:44
What IS gaming grade by the way?
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 12 April 2020, 15:25:16
That looks pretty good as well. Oh well! I've got some decent Razer mice, however overpriced the rest of their crap is, so if I don't like the one I just bought I'll go back to the ole deathadder.
What IS gaming grade by the way?
Anything that suits your needs or is a high quality peripheral
examples include corsair k70 or logitech g305
Post by: mpro on Tue, 21 April 2020, 19:44:53
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Post by: Sintpinty on Thu, 14 May 2020, 19:33:24
how do i clean it?
Post by: TengenToppan on Fri, 15 May 2020, 15:39:46
The grip tape is starting to wear out... i peeled it off and it left some sticky residue off my mouse
how do i clean it?
My guess would be some Goo Gone. It usually does the trick for adhesives
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:46:59
The grip tape is starting to wear out... i peeled it off and it left some sticky residue off my mouse
how do i clean it?
My guess would be some Goo Gone. It usually does the trick for adhesives
thanks man
Post by: Marchioness on Sun, 17 May 2020, 18:06:36
Lately I've been interested in trying out a trackball though...
Post by: smarmar on Fri, 22 May 2020, 17:15:31
If it's just residue from tape Goo Gone should work but if it's that soft coating that gets sticky over time, that's a whole other beast. That requires the hard stuff like WD40 or rubbing alcohol.The grip tape is starting to wear out... i peeled it off and it left some sticky residue off my mouse
how do i clean it?
My guess would be some Goo Gone. It usually does the trick for adhesives
thanks man
Post by: smarmar on Fri, 22 May 2020, 17:18:39
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 22 May 2020, 18:13:56
It's a later model with an optical sensor and a wider knub.
I don't know if the TrackPoint is broken or if it is supposed to be this way... because the scrolling is much too sensitive to be practical.
There doesn't seem to be any way to alter the sensitivity either: I can find no settings-buttons and there is nothing out of the ordinary with the USB descriptors.
Post by: funkmon on Mon, 25 May 2020, 04:32:40
EDIT: bought one on eBay.
What other weird IBM peripherals are there?
Post by: Tinman39 on Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:26:25
Post by: DrJackman on Wed, 27 May 2020, 21:09:53
i love this mose
(https://3er1viui9wo30pkxh1v2nh4w-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/68/2018/06/mouse1.jpg)
(https://prosettings.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/intellimouse-pro-featured-try-2.jpg)
Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 31 May 2020, 00:24:53
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Post by: jamster on Mon, 13 July 2020, 23:42:15
Screw waiting for replacement bearings, the overall user experience of this thing is terrible. I've gone back to a $20 wireless Logitech with a noticeably crappy sensor, still better than this Elecom.
Post by: adsimilisjesu on Wed, 15 July 2020, 00:08:54
Post by: Darthbaggins on Fri, 31 July 2020, 08:34:38
Currently I want to get a FM Cape Town, End Game XM1, and the Model D- to add to my collection.
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:07:40
Then I've got a Corsair Scimitar Pro for when I play WoW, because buttons.
Post by: Warduke on Thu, 10 December 2020, 13:54:36
(https://i.imgur.com/aXoOTsK.jpg)
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Fri, 11 December 2020, 10:50:33
Excellent mouse for fingertip grip: 105mm, 49g, PMW3389, optical switches, soft cable. Even has side buttons, despite the small size. Feels solid, too. If it lasts, I can see this mouse moving to the top of my recommendation list for this grip.
Post by: cheater on Wed, 16 December 2020, 18:13:42
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Post by: Havattack on Thu, 31 December 2020, 14:17:56
I love it, except for the stupid touch pad scroll wheel. It works okay (after you mess with the settings), but the tactility of an actual, real, wheal, is SO much better. Still gonna use it, becasue it looks so cool.
Post by: yqqdrasil on Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:46:50
Guess I'm going back to my old faithful MM710 until I'm in the mood to fix it.
Post by: trace. on Tue, 02 February 2021, 07:09:48
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 02 February 2021, 08:07:20
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 02 February 2021, 19:47:15
Kensington SlimBlade. Just got it minutes ago. I'll update in about a week, give it some time to see if I like really it or not but so far, I like it. The scrolling will take some time to get use to but I have a feeling I'm going to love it after a few days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aXoOTsK.jpg)
I want one but I'm worried there's nowhere to rest your hand/palm. Let me know if that gets tiring or old after a while.
Also don't love the button placement, seems like you'd need to hold your hand in a weird position.
Wish there was a Logi Marble style with a full-sized ball, programmable buttons, and scrolling. Maybe the Ploopy fits that bill?
Post by: Bitdrive on Wed, 03 February 2021, 13:40:13
Additionally I added a white carbon fiber vinyl wrap :D
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Post by: alertArchitect on Wed, 03 February 2021, 16:09:31
As for work, though I haven't asked around too much, I've been sticking with the provided crap-tastic Lenovo "included with ThinkCentre PCs" mouse because I'm not sure they allow employees to use non-company peripherals. And, well... It definitely works as a mouse that points at things on a screen, that's for sure, but I feel like I could accidentally break it in half if I were to put a single ounce of pressure on the wrong spot, i.e., anywhere but the buttons because of the crappy plastic and build quality. Only good thing I can say about it is that the scroll wheel clicks into place nicely when scrolling, and isn't a freewheel, which I'm not a fan of. But even that's got the bad side of it not always clicking into place properly and feeling terrible.
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Post by: rowdy on Fri, 04 June 2021, 21:00:17
That was terrible - even with tracking speed set all the way up, it was still very slow. Plus it would randomly jump the mouse pointer to one or the other side of the screen. And the scroll wheel feels sticky.
On a whim, I unpackaged the Apple Magic Mouse 2 that came with the iMac and has never been used. It still had about 40% charge in it. It paired immediately (probably shipped paired originally), and has been working surprisingly well.
Instead of clicking a scroll wheel, I simply slide my finger back and forth on the smooth spot where a scroll wheel would be and the page scrolls - magic!
The only complaint is that it is a bit small for my hands, but I seem to have fairly large hands and most mouses seem too small.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 19 June 2021, 02:34:25
No frills, just gets the damn job done.
Post by: Tactile on Sat, 19 June 2021, 10:34:40
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Post by: Darthbaggins on Mon, 28 June 2021, 06:07:22
Also after getting this mouse I'm thinking of downsizing my current collection as I dont see myself using all these mice and my son's hands are too small for the majority of them (which is why I got him a MM711). Might just keep my Scream 1 and Flick G1.
(https://i.imgur.com/SVKUIli.jpg)