Author Topic: [IC] G20 Semiotic (Currently available from PMK) (Read 88179 times)

Tom_Kazansky · « **Reply #300 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 10:27:41 »

my paycheck is late

hope I'm not too late

infodroid · « **Reply #301 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:12:41 »

It's live!!

graefeln · « **Reply #302 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:13:20 »

Quote from: infodroid on Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:12:41

It's live!!

...and purchased!

sems · « **Reply #303 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:22:16 »

Ordered!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #304 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:46:47 »

Looks like the TKL setup will cost $116
I will purchase, but I was really hoping it would be more like $80-$90

Their Stealth G20 set is $90, so I suppose a $26 markup for extra dye on the surface isn't terrible.

sems · « **Reply #305 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:52:06 »

Do you know when do they ship?

pixelpusher · « **Reply #306 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:59:00 »

I've never considered buying a numpad, but I think I might now just to use these!

zslane · « **Reply #307 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:39:05 »

Hey guys, be sure to tell all your /r/mech friends that G20 Semiotic is now taking orders!

rotane · « **Reply #308 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:50:23 »

I cannot believe this coincedence!

Today (i have to stress this), today i was browsing for Semiotic Standard graphics (since i was thinking about making my own iconset for Windows), and i stumbled upon this thread. I saw these great renders and then, the thing goes on sale? Today!? Well… I have to have this!

However, i seem to be a bit dense on the topic, so maybe one of you can help me out: What exactly does “G20” mean? It’s probably a standard for mechanical keys, right? But what keyboards do they work with? I consulted Dr. Google, but he wasn’t too helpful today, i’m afraid. Any kind of basic insight would be helpful.

Also, when i go to the PMK store page (it’s my first time there), i’d have to add all those options (Symbols, Mods, etc.) for one complete set, correct? (If it’s of any importance, i’m based in Austria, where we have the default German layout.)

Thanks in advance!

Oh and… Hello everyone, and fantastic work, zslane!

mogo · « **Reply #309 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:52:08 »

GOD DAMNIT. Yesterday my car broke down. Mechanics said i'm looking at $380 parts and labor to fix a throttle sensor.

Looks like I won't be buying a set after all...

kmba · « **Reply #310 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:54:13 »

G20 is the keycap profile. They are non-sculped (I.e. every key in every row is the same height), flat top, with a large surface area. They will fit any MX compatible switch. You would need icons, mods, top row, and numpad for a full size keyboard. The extra set had some extra icons and other sized keys to fill out non standard layouts.

mogo · « **Reply #311 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:56:30 »

Quote from: rotane on Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:50:23

I cannot believe this coincedence!

Today (i have to stress this), today i was browsing for Semiotic Standard graphics (since i was thinking about making my own iconset for Windows), and i stumbled upon this thread. I saw these great renders and then, the thing goes on sale? Today!? Well… I have to have this!

However, i seem to be a bit dense on the topic, so maybe one of you can help me out: What exactly does “G20” mean? It’s probably a standard for mechanical keys, right? But what keyboards do they work with? I consulted Dr. Google, but he wasn’t too helpful today, i’m afraid. Any kind of basic insight would be helpful.

Also, when i go to the PMK store page (it’s my first time there), i’d have to add all those options (Symbols, Mods, etc.) for one complete set, correct? (If it’s of any importance, i’m based in Austria, where we have the default German layout.)

Thanks in advance!

Oh and… Hello everyone, and fantastic work, zslane!

G20 is the name of the profile family for Signature Plastic's flat keys.

Other sets may list their key shape/profile as "SA", "DSA", "OEM", or "Cherry" ("XDA" is a new profile by another manufacturer). As tameone said, they fit MX-compatible switches.

rotane · « **Reply #312 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:58:54 »

Ah, thanks tameone and mogo, i’m a lot wiser now

jebbra · « **Reply #313 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:59:47 »

WTF PMK charge $45 just for the shipping? $:-\$

pomk · « **Reply #314 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 13:17:13 »

And I thought massdrop had expensive shipping. Bought one of everything!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #315 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 13:28:38 »

I'm in! So, they say 2-4 days processing and then ship, right? Maybe I'll have them for my burfday!

HAPPY BURFDAY TO ME:

zslane · « **Reply #316 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 13:55:50 »

Which kits were you planning to buy, mogo?

kmba · « **Reply #317 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 14:18:08 »

$9.25 shipping USPS priority for me, 5 sets. Cheap, no? Assuming no tray.

Elrick · « **Reply #318 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 18:14:33 »

I usually get tonnes of emails pushing me to buy this or that BUT this one from SP had me racing to their site and placing an order.

Looking forward to this one because this amount of dye sub love has to happen to at least four keyboards in my possession

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Thanks zslane for keeping Ron Cobb alive, he deserves praise and this key-set makes sure his legacy lives on in front of people for decades ahead.

Elrick · « **Reply #319 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 18:20:32 »

Quote from: mogo on Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:52:08

GOD DAMNIT. Yesterday my car broke down. Mechanics said i'm looking at $380 parts and labor to fix a throttle sensor.

That is why I still keep older cars from 1970 to 1986. No integration of electronics with the engines or transmissions, that is why all my vehicles always run under any circumstance.

Newer garbage gets fixed at our workshops and it keeps us in business 24/7, thank gawd for easy money

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Tom_Kazansky · « **Reply #320 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 19:09:28 »

ordered:

Symbols + Topstripe + Mods + Extra = $126

Quote from: tameone on Mon, 23 January 2017, 14:18:08

$9.25 shipping USPS priority for me, 5 sets. Cheap, no? Assuming no tray.

yes, last time I bought a G20 Stealth set, there is no tray too, but that will not be a problem.

Quote from: mogo on Mon, 23 January 2017, 12:52:08

GOD DAMNIT. Yesterday my car broke down. Mechanics said i'm looking at $380 parts and labor to fix a throttle sensor.
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Looks like I won't be buying a set after all...

dat timing... :(

mogo · « **Reply #321 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 21:36:52 »

Quote from: Elrick on Mon, 23 January 2017, 18:20:32

That is why I still keep older cars from 1970 to 1986. No integration of electronics with the engines or transmissions, that is why all my vehicles always run under any circumstance.

Newer garbage gets fixed at our workshops and it keeps us in business 24/7, thank gawd for easy money .

I agree with the sentiment, but having watched my brother own and try to maintain his own cars from roughly that time period ('66 Volvo Amazon, '72 VW Beetle, '85 Honda Accord) and watching them suck the time, energy, and money from him just to keep them road worthy... hah nah, that's okay. The occasional large repair bill makes a semi-modern Subaru extremely worthwhile. I know that if you get the right cars that somehow avoided the ravages of time and constant usage, they're unstoppable and cheap but that's a serious challenge for me to acquire these days.

Quote from: zslane on Mon, 23 January 2017, 13:55:50

Which kits were you planning to buy, mogo?

Honestly, I was going to buy all of the sets for a full-size. No ergo or extras. Enough to swap around to any of my boards, regardless of size. C'est la vie...

zslane · « **Reply #322 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 22:56:33 »

Quote from: mogo on Mon, 23 January 2017, 21:36:52

Honestly, I was going to buy all of the sets for a full-size. No ergo or extras. Enough to swap around to any of my boards, regardless of size. C'est la vie...

Well, the good news is that I don't think you will have to miss out on this, even if you won't have the funds for a while. I was going to order some sets myself and keep them on hand so folks who missed out could get them from me, but Bob at SP indicated that won't be necessary. This is what he said:

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With this particular set we will print to order, like we do with our standard DSA sets, Stealth, Ice Cap and a few others (as long as you allow us to run it). So there really isn’t a need for you to stockpile a few.

jebbra · « **Reply #323 on:** Mon, 23 January 2017, 23:03:23 »

Quote from: zslane on Mon, 23 January 2017, 22:56:33

Quote from: mogo on Mon, 23 January 2017, 21:36:52
Honestly, I was going to buy all of the sets for a full-size. No ergo or extras. Enough to swap around to any of my boards, regardless of size. C'est la vie...

Well, the good news is that I don't think you will have to miss out on this, even if you won't have the funds for a while. I was going to order some sets myself and keep them on hand so folks who missed out could get them from me, but Bob at SP indicated that won't be necessary. This is what he said:

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With this particular set we will print to order, like we do with our standard DSA sets, Stealth, Ice Cap and a few others (as long as you allow us to run it). So there really isn’t a need for you to stockpile a few.

When he said print to order is there any quota to run it again or is it simply 1 order is enough and they will make only one?

zslane · « **Reply #324 on:** Tue, 24 January 2017, 00:22:15 »

I honestly don't know.

jebbra · « **Reply #325 on:** Tue, 24 January 2017, 02:12:55 »

But did you allow them to continously restocking these beauties?

mogo · « **Reply #326 on:** Tue, 24 January 2017, 11:18:14 »

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With this particular set we will print to order, like we do with our standard DSA sets, Stealth, Ice Cap and a few others (as long as you allow us to run it). So there really isn’t a need for you to stockpile a few.

*gasp!* Yay! Okay, that's awesome. I was sorta wondering why Ice Cap hadn't disappeared. I'm super happy that, even if it takes a couple months, I'll still have an opportunity to buy a brand new set. Thanks for the good news zslane

zslane · « **Reply #327 on:** Tue, 24 January 2017, 12:01:35 »

Quote from: jebbra on Tue, 24 January 2017, 02:12:55

But did you allow them to continously restocking these beauties?

Yes.

pomk · « **Reply #328 on:** Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:00:58 »

Mine shipped already !?!

Tom_Kazansky · « **Reply #329 on:** Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:55:44 »

mine shipped too!

Elrick · « **Reply #330 on:** Thu, 26 January 2017, 20:18:55 »

Same here .....

bricriu · « **Reply #331 on:** Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:55:54 »

Just got mine today! Looks amazing.

zslane · « **Reply #332 on:** Fri, 27 January 2017, 01:48:14 »

Looks awesome!

I can't wait to see everyone's configurations!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #333 on:** Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:09:06 »

Quote from: bricriu on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:55:54

Just got mine today! Looks amazing.

Nice! Mine are supposed to be here today. I'm putting my on a poker as well for now. Can't wait to spend my afternoon arranging the legends

Elrick · « **Reply #334 on:** Fri, 27 January 2017, 18:11:33 »

Quote from: reececonrad on Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:09:06

Quote from: bricriu on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:55:54
Just got mine today! Looks amazing.

Nice! Mine are supposed to be here today. I'm putting my on a poker as well for now. Can't wait to spend my afternoon arranging the legends

That's the only killer here and that is TIME, to actually sit down and go through all the key-sets and fit them to their respective keyboards

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Niomosy · « **Reply #335 on:** Sat, 28 January 2017, 00:17:10 »

Curious to see if SP puts this one in their standard rotation list. It is certainly quite a unique set for promoting the G20 caps.

zslane · « **Reply #336 on:** Sat, 28 January 2017, 01:41:39 »

I'm sure that periodically they'll take the pulse of the community/marketplace to see if there is any potential interest and go from there.

rotane · « **Reply #337 on:** Sat, 28 January 2017, 04:29:43 »

Quote from: bricriu on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:55:54

Just got mine today! Looks amazing.

Pretty cool! Though you need to rotate the second key from the top (“Exhaust”, that is your number 1 key) 90° to the right

pixelpusher · « **Reply #338 on:** Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:37:29 »

Excited to get mine. The legends look fantastic! I'm going to ask for a replacement right shift key. Mine is shaped somewhat like a banana. Makes it pretty crappy on Cherry stabilizers

zslane · « **Reply #339 on:** Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:45:28 »

I'm sorry to hear a bad one snuck out of the factory!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #340 on:** Sun, 29 January 2017, 22:08:41 »

Here's my setup for now. Waiting on a new TKL to add the top strip more

It's a lot of fun to arrange the icons. I put a few in spots for reasons and then just started adding caps in pairs that worked well together.

zslane · « **Reply #341 on:** Sun, 29 January 2017, 22:45:52 »

Looks awesome!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #342 on:** Mon, 30 January 2017, 00:27:38 »

Also, a nice unexpected bonus is that I found G20 to be pretty fun to type on. In fact, I just broke my typing record and managed to do it 5 times in a row. I really think these legends make the profile look a lot nicer though. Great work, zslane!

Elrick · « **Reply #343 on:** Mon, 30 January 2017, 05:24:33 »

Quote from: reececonrad on Mon, 30 January 2017, 00:27:38

Also, a nice unexpected bonus is that I found G20 to be pretty fun to type on. In fact, I just broke my typing record and managed to do it 5 times in a row. I really think these legends make the profile look a lot nicer though. Great work, zslane!

You should be able to break any speed record because flat keys allow easier shift of fingers across the whole surface without being caught with any ridges or bumps like with traditional key profiles.