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Title: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:12:09
(http://i.imgur.com/0ljhV8F.jpg)
I'm not really sure what this is or if it is new. But I couldn't find any talk about it.


I couldn't quite tell from the weak translation how the 30 and 45 weights work into it and how they are arranged.


Source:
https://www.facebook.com/117547488320354/photos/a.117548801653556.22498.117547488320354/965682370173524/?type=3&permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/117547488320354/photos/a.117548801653556.22498.117547488320354/965682370173524/?type=3&permPage=1)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: byker on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:16:48
I am fairly sure it is coming in uniform 30g and 45g, both silenced.  :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 December 2015, 19:26:06
The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: ctm on Thu, 03 December 2015, 19:47:25
Yes the Chinese description says it's uniform 30g silenced or uniform 45g silenced.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:09:12
Any idea when this is coming out and if it can be brought to the usa?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:13:14
Hmm a debadged RealForce?

Let's people get creative with the case.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:36:54
The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.

LOL yeah I was thinking the same, now I have to write my comment again.  :P

Though I am also curious as to how we can acquire it, typically whatever edition Topre only sells within that specific country.

I wonder if we can get massdrop to talk to them.


EDIT:  I've made a poll on massdrop see if they can get it later.  https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Ducky-Topre-Realforce-Taiwan-Edition
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: nmur on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:56:18
The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.

LOL yeah I was thinking the same, now I have to write my comment again.  :P

Though I am also curious as to how we can acquire it, typically whatever edition Topre only sells within that specific country.

I wonder if we can get massdrop to talk to them.


EDIT:  I've made a poll on massdrop see if they can get it later.  https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Ducky-Topre-Realforce-Taiwan-Edition

rip muh thread

massdrop might run it, but they also might bundle it with fountain pens or something again
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:59:06
Hmm a debadged RealForce?

Let's people get creative with the case.

Didn't realize this at first but I guess this will make it a 100% purchase for me. As much as I love my other RF, that logo can get annoying at times.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: nmur on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:02:42
Hmm a debadged RealForce?

Let's people get creative with the case.

Didn't realize this at first but I guess this will make it a 100% purchase for me. As much as I love my other RF, that logo can get annoying at times.

maybe there's a big Ducky logo on the top right side  :))
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:08:04
maybe there's a big Ducky logo on the top right side  :))

Please don't.

(http://www.cclonline.com/images/articles/1460_Ducky%20Logo_Product%20Image.png)

No.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:40:38
I voted for fresh daikon. Jk
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:43:49
maybe there's a big Ducky logo on the top right side  :))

Please don't.

Show Image
(http://www.cclonline.com/images/articles/1460_Ducky%20Logo_Product%20Image.png)


No.

You sure you don't want some nice dye sub PBT ducky win keys  :p
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:46:16
You sure you don't want some nice dye sub PBT ducky win keys  :p

(http://i.giphy.com/KJ2jDqNON6mZ2.gif)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:50:47
You sure you don't want some nice dye sub PBT ducky win keys  :p

Show Image
(http://i.giphy.com/KJ2jDqNON6mZ2.gif)


[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Fri, 04 December 2015, 15:56:13
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-104ub?mode=guest_open

Pretty sure it's just like this except all white keycaps.  :P

This is the previous Ducky special edition, which is 45g uniform (non-silent).
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:54:04
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-104ub?mode=guest_open

Pretty sure it's just like this except all white keycaps. 

This is the previous Ducky special edition, which is 45g uniform (non-silent).
I didn't know this existed. I missed it.

Hopefully that two colored dark grey set comes back soon.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Fri, 04 December 2015, 19:09:04
The thread from yesterday got nuked in the rollback.

LOL yeah I was thinking the same, now I have to write my comment again.  :P

Though I am also curious as to how we can acquire it, typically whatever edition Topre only sells within that specific country.

I wonder if we can get massdrop to talk to them.


EDIT:  I've made a poll on massdrop see if they can get it later.  https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Ducky-Topre-Realforce-Taiwan-Edition

rip muh thread

massdrop might run it, but they also might bundle it with fountain pens or something again

Hopefully PBT Spacebars if anything.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 06 December 2015, 00:01:01
Aww no 55g? :(
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 06 December 2015, 00:04:39
Aww no 55g? :(
45g ftw  :p
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Homenubbie on Sun, 06 December 2015, 00:55:59
Need a Ducky Mini Topre version.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Sun, 06 December 2015, 11:28:17
^  Wouldn't that just be Leopold FC660C and HHKB?  :P
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 06 December 2015, 15:19:20
Ooh, looks nice.

I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me.  :P
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 06 December 2015, 16:30:42
Ooh, looks nice.

I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me.  :P

I think Ducky was acting as a distributor and they must have thought that the product needed the Ducky name to perform in the Taiwanese market
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 07 December 2015, 03:46:49
Ooh, looks nice.

I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me.  :P

I think Ducky was acting as a distributor and they must have thought that the product needed the Ducky name to perform in the Taiwanese market

Or maybe Ducky is lending their manufacturing plant to Topre?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 07 December 2015, 07:12:24
Ooh, looks nice.

I might be missing something, but where does Ducky come into this? It seems like every component is a Realforce part, except maybe the caps, but BoW doesn't scream "Ducky" to me.  :P

I think Ducky was acting as a distributor and they must have thought that the product needed the Ducky name to perform in the Taiwanese market

Or maybe Ducky is lending their manufacturing plant to Topre?

Interesting possibility guess we'll find out when one gets released into the wild
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: mobbo on Mon, 07 December 2015, 07:15:29
=O no back lighting?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Tue, 08 December 2015, 00:49:44
I'm probably a dummy for wanting 30g topre as my first Topre board, but I really want this. I have used Gateron Clears and enjoyed them, despite a puff of air from a can of PC duster gas literally being enough to depress them.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 08 December 2015, 15:42:40
Up for preorder at mechanicalkeyboards.com, not a terrible price point either.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 December 2015, 15:43:51
Up for preorder at mechanicalkeyboards.com, not a terrible price point either.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508)

:eek:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:13:00
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:14:52
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).

The model number ends in S....maybe that is a clue? Definitely not worth the price unless its silenced. Would like to know more before spending so much.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:15:43
I'm guessing the "S" at the end of the model number denotes that it's silenced.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:17:38
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).

Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:18:20
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).

Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".

@Zeal did you see anything like these on your trip a while back??
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:20:01
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).

Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".

@Zeal did you see anything like these on your trip a while back??

Well, I mentioned it in my interview with Topre. They told me they were going to release a "stormtrooper" version (and vice versa), distributed by Ducky. I guess this is it (and a future White case+black keycaps?)

Edit:

"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)"
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:21:47
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).

Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".
I see it now thank you  :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Tue, 08 December 2015, 16:46:22
So are these silenced or not? The mk.com listing doesn't mention silencing and neither does this (http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?act=view&no=14837).

Realforce 104UB-DK45S
It's the silent model. "靜音" means "quiet/silent".

@Zeal did you see anything like these on your trip a while back??

Well, I mentioned it in my interview with Topre. They told me they were going to release a "stormtrooper" version (and vice versa), distributed by Ducky. I guess this is it (and a future White case+black keycaps?)

Edit:

"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Totally happy to see the word "future" here, since that storm trooper look is so boss, and the weight I wanted to try out of this collaboration was the 30g model, so this is fantastic. I'll just wait it out for my first Topre and Ducky board all in one!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 09 December 2015, 04:06:40
30g too light :(
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 09 December 2015, 10:46:16
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.968322729909488.1073741858.117547488320354&type=3

Ducky posted more pics.  :D
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Wed, 09 December 2015, 10:58:03
Yea, i'm interested in trying the 30g, but i'm not a fan of the black body white caps.
I like the stormtrooper one though.

and i dont like full size keyboards that much.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 December 2015, 17:59:57
What's with Ducky and just offering full size boards?

Give up on the Ducky Mini and bring back the Shine in TKL already
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Sniping on Wed, 09 December 2015, 21:33:52
Where's the Ducky rep at to answer our questions? :(

They featured us on the video where they showed the making of the Tuhaojin keyboard, but we haven't seen any official reps from Ducky on here.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 09 December 2015, 22:11:04
Where's the Ducky rep at to answer our questions? :(

They featured us on the video where they showed the making of the Tuhaojin keyboard, but we haven't seen any official reps from Ducky on here.
I love that video, he's just randomly typing nonsense while staring at the geekhack homepage.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Sinzz on Thu, 10 December 2015, 01:25:20
I really want a 30g board.... if this comes in a tkl and isn't a ridiculous price... I might be sold
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 10 December 2015, 04:15:24
Seems they are both silent versions.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: lootbag on Thu, 10 December 2015, 04:34:45
I am so tempted to pick up one of these.
30g silenced seems interesting.
Need to find somewhere in Hong Kong/Asia to purchase one of these.

I can get the Leopold Realforce 104UB-KB45S (XF140S) locally in Hong Kong for a whopping 3000HKD, which equivalent to ~387USD.
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1448508362 (http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1448508362)
Same retailer (Keyboard Hell) also has the 10th anniversary 55g 87Us for 3000HKD.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 10 December 2015, 07:03:15
What's with Ducky and just offering full size boards?

Give up on the Ducky Mini and bring back the Shine in TKL already
I know right?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 10 December 2015, 10:46:50
*stares at the product link of the 30G on MK*

*thinks*

*wishes for TKL*

*stares*

*sighs*

*hovers cursor over add to cart button*

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Thu, 10 December 2015, 12:51:26
*stares at the product link of the 30G on MK*

*thinks*

*wishes for TKL*

*stares*

*sighs*

*hovers cursor over add to cart button*


Hey man, no problem.

Got a saw? CUT OFF THE TEN KEY!  >:D

Nah, I know that's impractical (and not sure how hard it'd be to mod a capacitative board). I actually really like full-size boards. I'm of the unfortunate position (and unpopular) at the moment where TKL vs full-size is like "go big or go home" for me. If I wanted a layout similar to TKL, I'd go 75%, though I know that some people have issues with the lack of a gap in the arrow keys.

Also, the aesthetics of a "slab of keys" isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 10 December 2015, 14:21:31
I had a Noppoo Choc Mini prior to my TKL Filco, actually. I'm not opposed to 104, it's just the combination of using a TKL for about 4 years and rarely needing the keypad that gives me pause. I find the mouse position more favourable with a shorter board.

The last time I took a serious look at the mech market was probably 4 years ago, and readily available small kb options quite limited... things have changed quite drastically. It's an interesting world to re-enter at this point.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 10 December 2015, 15:55:21
It's good to see some variety in the Topre world, but I don't think I could go back to using a full-size board. I am also not a fan of bright white caps or 30g switches.

It would be great if Topre would introduce more keycap sets in various colors for RF87U and HHKB Pro 2 boards. In fact, it would be nice if they would just reintroduce some of their previous sets, especially in blue and red.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Thu, 10 December 2015, 17:32:36
Put my pre-order in at MK.  The guys there told me they're 99% sure it's a Type-S even though the site doesn't mention it.

I agree that the white on black is a bit too contrasty (maybe a little loud for work where I plan on using it), but I've never tried silenced 45g before.  I may move the keys over from my white 87U.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 10 December 2015, 18:40:21
A nice coup for MK to get the Ducky RF Taiwan Edition. However, for me, the white/black contrast is too stark, and I wouldn't want to go back to a full-size board. The price is also rather high. However, one advantage to this board is built-in silencing (if indeed this is what the "S" in the model number indicates). Ever since I installed my silencing rings in a Topre board, I now feel the need to do this for all of them.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 10 December 2015, 18:43:16
I wonder how much whiter is the keycaps compared to the usual RF keycaps.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 10 December 2015, 19:12:26
I see a lot of confusion here, here I'll clarify a few things.

There are 2 versions:

45g Silent - 104UB-DK45S
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1509

30g Silent - 104UB-DK30S
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1508

Yes I'm 100% sure it's silent it's what it says in both English and Chinese (yes I read Chinese) from Ducky page.

Also the S at the end indicates it's silent.  DK indicates it's Ducky edition.

As for price, considering regular Topre is like $220, so this is not too bad for a special edition.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:34:03
Must resist!

Want 30g silent!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 December 2015, 21:53:48
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work.  :|  This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Thu, 10 December 2015, 22:37:14
This is most likely a dumb question, but will the stems on this board be slightly longer to accommodate the silencing pads (like on the HHKB Type S)?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 10 December 2015, 22:47:28
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work.  :|  This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?
Ducky said on their facebook(according to google translate at least) that it was a limited edition, so limited stock, not sure if they will sell out super quick or not.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:00:49
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work.  :|  This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?
Ducky said on their facebook(according to google translate at least) that it was a limited edition, so limited stock, not sure if they will sell out super quick or not.

Thanks.  Bummed that I likely won't have the funds for it at this point.  :|  I wonder if it will be "limited" like the 10AEs are.  :))
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:22:47
I really don't have any keyboard budget left, but I could definitely use this at work.  :|  This isn't something that's only available for a limited time, is it?
Ducky said on their facebook(according to google translate at least) that it was a limited edition, so limited stock, not sure if they will sell out super quick or not.

Thanks.  Bummed that I likely won't have the funds for it at this point.  :|  I wonder if it will be "limited" like the 10AEs are.  :))

Yeah I feel the same, while I really really want this keyboard but I'm not sure if I have budget at the moment.  :(
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:48:22
I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for the Stormtrooper version, especially if these boards are going to be limited. I'm determined that it will be my first Topre keyboard. Hopefully is doesn't sell out as quick as Star Wars.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kekman on Fri, 11 December 2015, 02:36:45
30g uniform topre??

Jesus christ I am hype.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: O(logn) on Fri, 11 December 2015, 02:45:09
A nice coup for MK to get the Ducky RF Taiwan Edition. However, for me, the white/black contrast is too stark, and I wouldn't want to go back to a full-size board. The price is also rather high. However, one advantage to this board is built-in silencing (if indeed this is what the "S" in the model number indicates). Ever since I installed my silencing rings in a Topre board, I now feel the need to do this for all of them.

Have you done this to a realforce 55g? If so, do you think the sound and feel improved from silencing it?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hypersphere on Sat, 12 December 2015, 08:00:37
A nice coup for MK to get the Ducky RF Taiwan Edition. However, for me, the white/black contrast is too stark, and I wouldn't want to go back to a full-size board. The price is also rather high. However, one advantage to this board is built-in silencing (if indeed this is what the "S" in the model number indicates). Ever since I installed my silencing rings in a Topre board, I now feel the need to do this for all of them.

Have you done this to a realforce 55g? If so, do you think the sound and feel improved from silencing it?
Yes, I've installed silencing rings in a RF87UB55. This board doesn't need silencing nearly as much as a Novatouch, but it is improved by the treatment. It's the sound that improves; the feel remains the same as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:06:59
Hypersphere when will your rings be in stock again?

Originally I wanted this Ducky Topre board really bad but now I think it might be more economical to buy the rings and install it on my Realforce 104U and my fiance's FC660C.

:P
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hypersphere on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:53:28
@Hyde: I am busy with a number of other things at the moment, but I hope to have a new batch ready by mid-January. They will then be available again via "katesattic2" on eBay.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Tue, 15 December 2015, 09:17:56
(http://i.imgur.com/CHiSeZa.jpg)


New image of new packaging (https://www.facebook.com/117547488320354/photos/a.117548801653556.22498.117547488320354/972296519512109/?type=3&permPage=1)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Tue, 15 December 2015, 17:44:21
Nice!  How are you liking it?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: strict on Tue, 15 December 2015, 19:10:56
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 15 December 2015, 19:28:41
I want to try the 30g so bad. But, a full size keuboard is too big.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 December 2015, 03:54:58
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.

If these came in TKL and 55g ...
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: HendyZone on Wed, 16 December 2015, 04:16:24
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.

If these came in TKL and 55g ...

Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 17 December 2015, 03:58:33
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.

If these came in TKL and 55g ...

Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:

Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 17 December 2015, 07:39:11
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.

If these came in TKL and 55g ...

Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:

Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.

I'd be more interested to see an aftermarket case like the digilog for the novatouch
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 17 December 2015, 20:12:38
If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.

If these came in TKL and 55g ...

Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:

Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.

I'd be more interested to see an aftermarket case like the digilog for the HHKB

FTFY
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 17 December 2015, 20:15:47

If these came in TKL I would have already placed a order for both a 30g and a 45g. Love the weighting, love the silencing, love the stormtrooper colors, I just can't justify that kind of money on a fullsize board. Also nice to see a Realforce board without those stupid "bubble" winkeys.

If these came in TKL and 55g ...

Maybe ducky will consider TKL version too later
since all of their lineup now are Fullsize
and in 2016 they will released another Ducky TKL :cool:

Still waiting for a 55g Novatouch.

I'd be more interested to see an aftermarket case like the digilog for the HHKB

FTFY

That goes without saying
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 17 December 2015, 20:17:23
tbh I'm kinda interested in the 30g one. Silenced buttery smoothness???
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay on Thu, 17 December 2015, 22:31:56
I heard that this edition aimed Happy hacking keyboard's Black Housing with white keycaps.


I love the black housing with white keycap combination, but this one? not really :( .

What I slightly have felt the difference from HHKB and this edition is the color of black.

(Realforce is kind of pure black with little bit of texture, and HHKB is little lighter and smooth black.)
(or it might be just texture difference)
(http://[attachimg=1])


And, this difference makes the feeling really differently I think.




ps. this edition has 2 version.  silent all 30 grams and silent all 45 grams.



One line summary : I don't like this.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay on Thu, 17 December 2015, 22:39:06
tbh I'm kinda interested in the 30g one. Silenced buttery smoothness???

I heard that 30g is very light and comfortable for long period typing.

However, It doesn't have good CLACK feeling. If you have Realforce ergonomically distributed weighting version, then you simply can feel what the 30g is.

Realforce 87U's qaz keys are 30g.



The good thing of 30g is comfortable, but it is not *fun* as realforce 45g or happy hacking.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 17 December 2015, 22:46:24

tbh I'm kinda interested in the 30g one. Silenced buttery smoothness???

I heard that 30g is very light and comfortable for long period typing.

However, It doesn't have good CLACK feeling. If you have Realforce ergonomically distributed weighting version, then you simply can feel what the 30g is.

Realforce 87U's qaz keys are 30g.



The good thing of 30g is comfortable, but it is not *fun* as realforce 45g or happy hacking.

I already have all of them spread across 4 RF and 3 HHKB. Stock 45g, 45g type-S, stock 55g, 55g silenced and lubed. So I know how those feels and I'm looking for something different.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: ander on Fri, 18 December 2015, 04:54:33
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 18 December 2015, 05:27:18
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.

"Limited Edition"
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 18 December 2015, 07:40:08
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.

"Limited Edition"

If you want the stormtrooper look, it's a much easier way to go about it than swapping caps on two boards.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 18 December 2015, 18:35:55
Hmm.. just occurred to me - would these be using Realforce PBT keycaps, or Ducky?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: KnivesM on Sat, 19 December 2015, 01:13:03
Hmm.. just occurred to me - would these be using Realforce PBT keycaps, or Ducky?
I imagine Realforce as (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but Topre keycaps would mean new molds for Ducky that I doubt they'd want to spend the money on.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 December 2015, 03:26:40
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.


Maybe it's cheaper.

Is it cheaper than a RealForce?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay on Sat, 19 December 2015, 04:23:57
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.


Maybe it's cheaper.

Is it cheaper than a RealForce?


What I have heard is... Ducky made this realforce with parts that are  guaranteed by Topre.

Also, this edition is more expensive.(Simply, it is realized in Taiwan only)

So, it should be same quality as just another version of realforces, but different color design.


-may be wrong info, but those are what I have known of-
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 19 December 2015, 19:18:45
Fairly certain ducky just distributes realforce boards made with whatever specs they request.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 19 December 2015, 22:59:01
I don't get it. Why would you need a Topre that was also a Ducky? Why not just get a Topre? I'm missing something.


Maybe it's cheaper.

Is it cheaper than a RealForce?

i wish.  :confused:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:55:51
Looks like my order shipped.. Should be getting the board this Wed.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:35:29
Looks like my order shipped.. Should be getting the board this Wed.
Did you get the 30g version? I was hoping for a mini review
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:56:31
Looks like my order shipped.. Should be getting the board this Wed.
Did you get the 30g version? I was hoping for a mini review

Sorry... I ordered the 45g version.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Thu, 07 January 2016, 13:11:04
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 08 January 2016, 11:23:15
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Any pics of the purple stems?

Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?

I should get the 30g version.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: daerid on Fri, 08 January 2016, 11:48:38
Aww no 55g? :(
45g ftw  :p

Not on a plate mounted RF :(
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 08 January 2016, 11:52:35
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Any pics of the purple stems?

Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?

I should get the 30g version.

Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:

http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg

This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions. 

One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U.  This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 January 2016, 14:28:41
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Any pics of the purple stems?

Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?

I should get the 30g version.

Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:

http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg

This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions. 

One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U.  This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.

I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 08 January 2016, 14:33:03
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Any pics of the purple stems?

Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?

I should get the 30g version.

Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:

http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg

This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions. 

One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U.  This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.

I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
So, is the way these stems are silenced versus purple stems different?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 January 2016, 14:34:31
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Any pics of the purple stems?

Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?

I should get the 30g version.

Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:

http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg

This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions. 

One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U.  This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.

I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
So, is the way these stems are silenced versus purple stems different?

not that i am aware of, ill take it apart to confirm they are the same as  :thumb:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: daerid on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:23:00
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sun, 10 January 2016, 11:10:39
Using this board at work right now.  It's nice a change from my 55g 87U... the silent switches really make the thock more satisfying!  Switches are purple.  Haven't compared it directly to my Leopold Dye-sub, but from I recall, the switch weights feel the same (I've heard that the Leopold Dye-sub is supposed to feel slightly heavier than usual 45g Topre).
Any pics of the purple stems?

Do these sound or feel better than other silenced switches?

I should get the 30g version.

Haven't taken photos of the stems, but they look pretty much identical to the silent switches I've seen online:

http://i.imgur.com/TL271SB.jpg

This is my first experience with silent Topre, so I can't really comment on how it feels compared to other silent versions. 

One interesting thing is that color of the case isn't as black as my 87U.  This one is more of a deep gray, so transferring keys from a black Topre board may result in a bit of a color mismatch.

I have one on the way too and can confirm, but afaik they are indeed the same as other silent stems.
So, is the way these stems are silenced versus purple stems different?

not that i am aware of, ill take it apart to confirm they are the same as  :thumb:

Curious to see what your thoughts are on this board, given your deep experience with silenced Topre!  I recall reading this somewhere else, but I've noticed that some of the keys are less "silent" than others.  Some don't even seem silent at all!  Let me know if you experience the same.  In any case, really enjoying the board.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 10 January 2016, 11:45:19
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 13:18:04
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense.
I really want to buy one to try 30g.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 10 January 2016, 13:40:38
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense.
I really want to buy one to try 30g.
I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:18:30
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense.
I really want to buy one to try 30g.
I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.
I am afraid that 30g might feel like regular rubber dome.

Someone said it actually still didn't feel anywhere near rubber dome.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Sun, 10 January 2016, 22:47:38
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense.
I really want to buy one to try 30g.
I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.
I am afraid that 30g might feel like regular rubber dome.

Someone said it actually still didn't feel anywhere near rubber dome.

I had a variable Topre and the 30g domes didn't have tactility on them at all, they were pretty close to linear.  And to me the bottom out felt kind of like rubber dome.

BUT it's only a few keys so I could be wrong.

Though it did bug me enough to mod my keyboard to 45g uniform.  :P
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:21:50
"Stormtrooper (Black on White & White on Black) Realforces will be distributed by Ducky in the future. They will be 30g uniform.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eccrOLO.jpg)
"

Crap. God DAMNIT. Now I gotta go find **** to sell.
I wonder if that's what's listed on mechanicalkeyboards.com incoming stock. They've got 5+ in stock of the black with white keycaps 30g ones in stock currently, so when I saw they had more coming I was curious why but that would make sense.
I really want to buy one to try 30g.
I'm going to get a 45g one to try topre and silenced at that, I feel like it's going to be too light though based off my 55g topre keychain but keychains and switch testers aren't the most accurate things to judge off of.
I am afraid that 30g might feel like regular rubber dome.

Someone said it actually still didn't feel anywhere near rubber dome.

I had a variable Topre and the 30g domes didn't have tactility on them at all, they were pretty close to linear.  And to me the bottom out felt kind of like rubber dome.

BUT it's only a few keys so I could be wrong.

Though it did bug me enough to mod my keyboard to 45g uniform.  :P

30g generally do feel very close to a standard rubber dome. No tactility, especially when typing at speed. I personally love topre more than most, but I'd never own a 30g again.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 22 January 2016, 21:05:24
 Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: daerid on Fri, 22 January 2016, 21:40:46
Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!

30g or 45g?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Pdub on Fri, 22 January 2016, 21:52:17
I am fairly sure it is coming in uniform 30g and 45g, both silenced.  :)

Silenced <3
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:17:26
Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!

30g or 45g?

45g!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:23:13
Been a few weeks and still really enjoying this board!

Looks really nice with the red on it.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Sat, 23 January 2016, 04:28:46
Oh nice, this could really shake things up. I know the Novatouch is already out there but it'd be great if there were other cheaper options around to encourage people to give a Topre board a try. Would be even better if they produced a 60-key version!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:09:13
Still contemplating the 30G version, but LSB's comments about it feeling almost identical to a rubber dome are concerning.

I do love light switches though... hmm.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: sitch on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:40:26
30g to me.. is kinda light that I will accidentally press on them when I rest my fingers on the keyboard, used to own a variable weight realforce and bought a 55g
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: suhaibin on Sat, 23 January 2016, 14:06:14
I have a like new 30g one for sale in Member Auction section
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:12:10
OK.  Now I have to find a reason to buy this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realfprce-104UB-KB45S-Keyboard-Electrostatic-Capacitive-Switch-All-45g-PBT-/272114223596?hash=item3f5b4589ec:g:~AIAAOSwqrtWpDUm
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:18:04
Hmm, he seems to have two links up. The one he sent to me through our communications that I ordered from is different.

Same item though as far as I can tell. Reason why I mention it is there is technically a English/Korean legend version too.

http://stores.ebay.com/widebasket/?_dmd=2&_nkw=topre+45
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:23:10
Hmm, he seems to have two links up. The one he sent to me through our communications that I ordered from is different.

Same item though as far as I can tell. Reason why I mention it is there is technically a English/Korean legend version too.

http://stores.ebay.com/widebasket/?_dmd=2&_nkw=topre+45

Ah, so you ordered it? I've always liked the AE color scheme, and now that I know that I  like 45g silenced, this board is very tempting.  Please post pics/thoughts when you get it!

EDIT:  annnddd... order placed.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:22:05
Yeah, I had communicated with him a few days back and he said he could get some in if there was interest. He'll probably keep them stocked if they are selling well.

Perhaps someone can weigh in, but as far as I can tell this is just the Leopold counterpart to the Ducky's that this thread is about, at least where 45G is concerned.  I suspect there is no limited aspect about this, it's just using the old AE colourset due to it's popularity.

I decided to grab this because all costs considered, I'm not paying much more than the Ducky since I'm in Canada. Standard shipping is included with these Leopolds, but I'd have to pay shipping and likely tax for the Ducky... and I greatly prefer the blue/grey to all white caps.

I have no idea when it will actually come in, but if there aren't photos already on GH I'll put some up in the Topre thread. There's at least one other member on GH that already owns this from alternate means since he posted a quick photo. :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:38:11
Yeah, I had communicated with him a few days back and he said he could get some in if there was interest. He'll probably keep them stocked if they are selling well.

Perhaps someone can weigh in, but as far as I can tell this is just the Leopold counterpart to the Ducky's that this thread is about, at least where 45G is concerned.  I suspect there is no limited aspect about this, it's just using the old AE colourset due to it's popularity.

I decided to grab this because all costs considered, I'm not paying much more than the Ducky since I'm in Canada. Standard shipping is included with these Leopolds, but I'd have to pay shipping and likely tax for the Ducky... and I greatly prefer the blue/grey to all white caps.

I have no idea when it will actually come in, but if there aren't photos already on GH I'll put some up in the Topre thread. There's at least one other member on GH that already owns this from alternate means since he posted a quick photo. :)

I definitely prefer this color scheme as well, although the contrast black and white of the ducky version is growing on me.  Now I never thought I would own TWO full sized silenced 45g boards, but I guess you can never have too much Topre?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 24 January 2016, 15:26:47
More Topre is always good, but this will definitely be my only fullsize :))
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Mon, 25 January 2016, 20:55:50
More Topre is always good, but this will definitely be my only fullsize :))

Ha.  Fair enough.  At least now I'll get to see how the AE caps look on a black case and how the pure white caps look on a dark blue case :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: frogthejam19 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 08:30:33
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 27 January 2016, 04:02:16
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl

... and 55g ;)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bevo on Wed, 27 January 2016, 04:59:08
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl

... and 55g ;)

Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: yomammary on Wed, 27 January 2016, 07:17:45
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl

... and 55g ;)

Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
Link me?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 27 January 2016, 08:55:33
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl


... and 55g ;)

Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
Link me?
No link possible because such a thing does not exist.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: yomammary on Wed, 27 January 2016, 12:33:58
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl


... and 55g ;)

Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
Link me?
No link possible because such a thing does not exist.
That was my point haha.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 27 January 2016, 16:39:37
I would be all over this if it came in  tkl


... and 55g ;)

Save your money and buy a set of white keycaps from EK. Same thing!
Link me?
No link possible because such a thing does not exist.
That was my point haha.

Ha, yes.  That post by Bevo was misinformation at it's finest.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bevo on Wed, 27 January 2016, 16:41:02
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 27 January 2016, 16:44:46
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bevo on Wed, 27 January 2016, 16:46:10
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 27 January 2016, 16:51:37
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I'll let you know.  But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bevo on Wed, 27 January 2016, 17:12:55
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I'll let you know.  But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Nah
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:55:06
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I'll let you know.  But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Nah

Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here.  Move along...
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bevo on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:02:49
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I'll let you know.  But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Nah

Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here.  Move along...
Mate get over yourself. I can't believe this is still going. Go comment on another topre thread
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:47:03
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I'll let you know.  But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Nah

Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here.  Move along...
Mate get over yourself. I can't believe this is still going. Go comment on another topre thread

 (looks for another Topre thread)

Nah.

Hey look, all I ask is that a little due diligence be done instead of spewing out misinformed posts like "just go buy this instead!" when such a thing DOES NOT EXIST.  It just causes confusion and degrades an otherwise pleasant forum.  Good on you for owning up to it, though.  OK... shall we get back on topic now?  So that Ducky Realforce Taiwan Editiion keyboard is pretty nice, yea?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Bevo on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:48:19
My bad. They actually sold hhkb keycaps.

Also note that the keycaps that come with this board are a PURE white... it's a pretty stark difference compared to the off-white caps that come with standard Realforce's/HHKB's.  It initially looked a little "bright" at first, but now it has really grown on me :)
Ok ill put it into my notebook. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I'll let you know.  But more importantly, I'll do my research before I post something.
Nah

Again, providing ZERO value to this thread and I'm sure countless others on here.  Move along...
Mate get over yourself. I can't believe this is still going. Go comment on another topre thread

 (looks for another Topre thread)

Nah.

Hey look, all I ask is that a little due diligence be done instead of spewing out misinformed posts like "just go buy this instead!" when such a thing DOES NOT EXIST.  It just causes confusion and degrades an otherwise pleasant forum.  Good on you for owning up to it, though.  OK... shall we get back on topic now?  So that Ducky Realforce Taiwan Editiion keyboard is pretty nice, yea?
K
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: 108dragons on Thu, 28 January 2016, 22:57:13
Let me try to put this thread back on track. I own this board as well and think it's awesome. I got the 45g version, and the black on white keycaps really pop and allow you to see the legends in very low light. It's not too stark or too much of a contrast. I mean, it's black and white, yin and yang, the most basic colors you can imagine. Also, there are just not many full-sized all 45g Topre keyboards to choose from in the United States, so I was really happy to see this come out.

Many are lamenting that this isn't available in TLK or 55g, but I prefer 45g and full-sized. I recently have been using a 55g 87U and a HiPro. I found that the 55g is too heavy for me, and I missed the ten key. I switched to the HiPro and was happy for a very long time but eventually got tired of the high profile keycaps. The only other full-sized 45g Topre I could find was the Type Heaven. I tried it for a few weeks but didn't care for the feel of the keys, and it seemed like the switches were a bit inconsistent with their weighting. The Realforce is in another class altogether, and the silencing on this thing is the icing on the cake.

The black on white color scheme looks a lot like the first Topre board, the prototype pictured here: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_Corporation (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_Corporation).
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Fri, 29 January 2016, 02:28:24
The only other full-sized 45g Topre I could find was the Type Heaven. I tried it for a few weeks but didn't care for the feel of the keys, and it seemed like the switches were a bit inconsistent with their weighting. The Realforce is in another class altogether, and the silencing on this thing is the icing on the cake.

After adding silencing rings (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73940) to my Type Heaven it quickly became a favorite board; the rings really dampen ringing from the ABS key caps.  My previous favorite 104UB 45g suddenly didn't seem so awesome. So I added silencing rings to it as well and it is definitely my favorite again.

Silencing is now on my must-have list for all Topre boards along with 45g uniform force. I am still on the fence as to whether I prefer the 104UB-DK45S to my 104UB with silencing rings and domes swapped to 45g uniform from a Type Heaven. I think I prefer the shorter travel distance from adding silencing rings to normal black sliders than the compensated distance of factory silencing rings on purple sliders. 

But it is likely all in my head. I keep "stepchild" keyboard around to remind me of all the things I don't like: an unsilenced Type Heaven with variable weight (30g, 45g and 55g) domes. Just kidding, I love all my Topre.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 29 January 2016, 11:49:58
The only other full-sized 45g Topre I could find was the Type Heaven. I tried it for a few weeks but didn't care for the feel of the keys, and it seemed like the switches were a bit inconsistent with their weighting. The Realforce is in another class altogether, and the silencing on this thing is the icing on the cake.
...

Silencing is now on my must-have list for all Topre boards along with 45g uniform force.

...

Funny you mention that.  I'm not sure if I can go back to a non-silenced Topre board either.  Really curious to see how a silenced 55g board sounds/feels.


Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: TopreFan333 on Fri, 29 January 2016, 12:13:54
But it is likely all in my head. I keep "stepchild" keyboard around to remind me of all the things I don't like: an unsilenced Type Heaven with variable weight (30g, 45g and 55g) domes. Just kidding, I love all my Topre.

I actually like my Type Heaven quite a bit. Putting Realforce PBT caps on it helped the sound and feel a lot.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Fri, 29 January 2016, 17:27:16
I actually like my Type Heaven quite a bit. Putting Realforce PBT caps on it helped the sound and feel a lot.

The only real problem I have with the Type Heaven are its ABS key caps. They just don't have the same satisfying feel or sound as the PBT keys. So swapping the keys, as you've done, or silencing the stock keys both (almost) completely address the differences between it and the Realforce. 

But until I added silencing rings I was resolved to use the Type Heavens as little more than a source for 45g domes.

The Type Heaven is still a bear to open up in comparison.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:15:05
Got the 45g variant today. Not bad at all!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:59:47
Just got this in...
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 17:31:07
Just got this in...
Jealous, did you get it from widebasket?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sat, 30 January 2016, 17:37:24
Just got this in...
Jealous, did you get it from widebasket?

Indeed.  First time dealing with him and he was great.  Ordered on a Sunday and received it the following Friday.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: strict on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:02:52
Just got this in...

Is that the silenced 45g uniform board? I was ridiculously close to pulling the trigger on that one if so. If I weren't saving my pennies for a turbo upgrade I probably would have picked one up.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:51:58
Just got this in...

Is that the silenced 45g uniform board? I was ridiculously close to pulling the trigger on that one if so. If I weren't saving my pennies for a turbo upgrade I probably would have picked one up.

Yea it's silenced.  I fell in love with this type of board after getting the Ducky x Realforce and always wanted a Topre board in this color scheme.. I had to pull the trigger.  I think I need to lay off keyboard purchases for a bit :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:55:39
Should be getting mine at some point in the week, it's already in Canada.  :cool:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:48:40
Should be getting mine at some point in the week, it's already in Canada.  :cool:

Ah!  Let me know what you think.  I was surprised there weren't any extras with this board.. not even the swappable ctrl / caps lock.  I did get a small extra from widebasket though, which you'll discover when you get yours :)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Sun, 31 January 2016, 22:05:54
Last Thursday I photographed the unboxing of my Ducky Realforce Taiwan.

http://imgur.com/a/8i6os (http://imgur.com/a/8i6os)

The next night I convinced my friend who does product photography to give my keyboard the supermodel treatment. I've got to proof the final shots, but I'm thinking this keyboard is a swimsuit away from Sports Illustrated.

(http://imgur.com/mbxqCMM.jpg)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: robscomputer on Sat, 13 February 2016, 06:49:30
I placed an order for the 45gr version thanks to this thread. :)

Before I had an HHKB Type-S but for work, I found that many of my common keys where layered and just didn't work well. I also had the Realforce 87U ergo, which was near perfect but the lower weight keys felt very soft, but the biggest problem was the dark grey on black keys. Honestly I like the feeling of light keys but at 30gr, seems like it's extremely soft and might not have much feedback or quickness in key resetting.

The Ducky version sounds near perfect and I was actually looking on eBay for Realforce keycaps sets to swap out a black Realforce board. The pricing was just too much and even though I like a TKL, finding the full size helps out with spreadsheets and other work stuff.

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swagpiratex on Tue, 01 March 2016, 18:50:32
I was very excited today because it's the day that my shipment from Mechanical Keyboard arrived at my house. I've never tried Topre switches before and was very curious what all the fuss on this forum was about. You guys were so right, typing on a boob cloud is the best way to describe it ...just amazing. Really glad I picked this up for work instead of the 104-UG (Hi-Pro) on Massdrop right now. Wasn't really feeling the color scheme of that keyboard, and it seems like getting used to the higher profile keys would take some time.

This board is perfect for anyone looking for a uniform 45g topre they're planning on using for work (I do a lot of excel work so the numkeypad is appreciated for those long numerical strings.)  My favorite switches are the MX Browns and I am loving the force needed to press down each key. The silenced switches do sound very different from all the thock thock Topre vids on YouTube, but to me that's a plus, YMMV.

RexS, where is our update!? Just kidding. I do photography and video myself and that looks like those pictures came out great :D
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:37:19
Last Thursday I photographed the unboxing of my Ducky Realforce Taiwan.

http://imgur.com/a/8i6os (http://imgur.com/a/8i6os)

The next night I convinced my friend who does product photography to give my keyboard the supermodel treatment. I've got to proof the final shots, but I'm thinking this keyboard is a swimsuit away from Sports Illustrated.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/mbxqCMM.jpg)

LOVE this keyboard and your photos (http://i.imgur.com/h8ZDR2T.gif) I see a 104UB (30g or 45g) board on mechanicalkeyboards.com - any difference between that and the taiwan version? Either way splendid photos
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: KnivesM on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:42:51
Last Thursday I photographed the unboxing of my Ducky Realforce Taiwan.

http://imgur.com/a/8i6os (http://imgur.com/a/8i6os)

The next night I convinced my friend who does product photography to give my keyboard the supermodel treatment. I've got to proof the final shots, but I'm thinking this keyboard is a swimsuit away from Sports Illustrated.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/mbxqCMM.jpg)

LOVE this keyboard and your photos
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZDR2T.gif)
I see a 104UB (30g or 45g) board on mechanicalkeyboards.com - any difference between that and the taiwan version? Either way splendid photos
The ones on mechanicalkeyboards.com are taiwan editions so no nothing different.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: robscomputer on Tue, 01 March 2016, 21:21:29
After spending a few days with the 45 gram version, my only complaint is the weird font and kerning on the "Home" "Scroll Lock" and other keys. Someone mentioned this, but it's pretty obvious it's not really matching the rest of the key caps. I'm thinking the next version should have this corrected, but there was also a font issue on the Shine 5 RGB (10 key pad, the "+" and "-" don't match justified) as well, wonder if it's related to some supply line issues or molds?

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 01 March 2016, 21:29:28
Perhaps that is the reason the price is similar to the price of a RF with regular RF key caps. Now that you mention it, I can sort of see the font irregularities in some of those photos. 
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swagpiratex on Tue, 01 March 2016, 21:30:21
Why are you looking down when you type? hue hue.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: robscomputer on Tue, 01 March 2016, 22:19:15
This is a good example of the font and kerning issues. Notice the font on "Back Space" compared with the edit keys, then back to "Num Lock".
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 01 March 2016, 22:27:13
Mhm, well damn I'm not sure if that is a deal breaker for me.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 05 March 2016, 04:57:51
Wouldn't bother me as I try not to look at the keyboard too much while typing :p
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Sat, 05 March 2016, 17:09:05
Perhaps that is the reason the price is similar to the price of a RF with regular RF key caps. Now that you mention it, I can sort of see the font irregularities in some of those photos.

All my Topre keyboards (white on gray ABS Type Heaven, black on black PBT Realforce 104UB, black on pure white PBT Realforce 104UB-DK45S) exhibit these same font problems. Search google (https://www.google.com/search?q=realforce+keyboard&tbm=isch) and you'll see indentical font problems across all color of Realforce keyboards. Sometimes the Scroll Lock line height is closer to that of Back Space but usually it matches the crazy line height of its neighbors: Print Screen, Page Up, Page Down.

Proper fonts are why I was really excited about Matt3o's custom Topre key set. Unless you go Novatouch sliders to get MX stems you have no native alternate when it comes to great fonts on your Topre (I'm not speaking for HHKB since I do not own one, but I have purchased a few PFU key sets).  Us Topre folk sit by and watch drop after drop and group by after group by of beautiful fonts on beautiful colorways across varying MX key cap profiles. We're still at the caveman drawing stage of fonts and colors.

My endgame keyboard would have to include a Gorton font on a PBT key cap in Topre profile. But once I stop staring down at my belly button and start typing I literally cannot distinguish the font in my peripheral vision. I still notice the color of the keys, but visually it stops there... I start listening to the thock, contemplating the dry PBT feel of each key, and smelling the bull**** I type.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 05 March 2016, 18:04:32
Perhaps that is the reason the price is similar to the price of a RF with regular RF key caps. Now that you mention it, I can sort of see the font irregularities in some of those photos.

All my Topre keyboards (white on gray ABS Type Heaven, black on black PBT Realforce 104UB, black on pure white PBT Realforce 104UB-DK45S) exhibit these same font problems. Search google (https://www.google.com/search?q=realforce+keyboard&tbm=isch) and you'll see indentical font problems across all color of Realforce keyboards. Sometimes the Scroll Lock line height is closer to that of Back Space but usually it matches the crazy line height of its neighbors: Print Screen, Page Up, Page Down.

Proper fonts are why I was really excited about Matt3o's custom Topre key set. Unless you go Novatouch sliders to get MX stems you have no native alternate when it comes to great fonts on your Topre (I'm not speaking for HHKB since I do not own one, but I have purchased a few PFU key sets).  Us Topre folk sit by and watch drop after drop and group by after group by of beautiful fonts on beautiful colorways across varying MX key cap profiles. We're still at the caveman drawing stage of fonts and colors.

My endgame keyboard would have to include a Gorton font on a PBT key cap in Topre profile. But once I stop staring down at my belly button and start typing I literally cannot distinguish the font in my peripheral vision. I still notice the color of the keys, but visually it stops there... I start listening to the thock, contemplating the dry PBT feel of each key, and smelling the bull**** I type.
I was under the newbie impression that Ducky used their own legends but after looking at many other RF pictures I see your point. Now I'm thinking there is a price difference because of how easy it is to spot the irregularities on the Taiwan edition. I rarely look at the legends myself but it is a little disheartening  :-\
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Sat, 05 March 2016, 19:14:41
I was under the newbie impression that Ducky used their own legends but after looking at many other RF pictures I see your point. Now I'm thinking there is a price difference because of how easy it is to spot the irregularities on the Taiwan edition. I rarely look at the legends myself but it is a little disheartening  :-\

The Ducky seems priced right in the middle of the field as far as the Realforce 104U family goes. The early 2015 Ducky 104UB-DK went on Massdrop last year between $215 and $230 and it didn't have silencing. So I'm not convinced its being sold at any discount. I honestly would not buy the silenced 104UB for the $255 price of the Ducky (the 104UB silent is currently $275 on EK.com) since I'd have to spend $125 or so on a Type Heaven for its rubber (technically I have another Type Heaven available but if I'm going D.I.Y. then I'm also going to dip into my personal stash of silencing rings).

I'm extremely thankful I found the 104UB-DK45S. I'd been so excited for the silent 104U products announced on Massdrop until I saw they were all variable weight. I had an order in with one retailer for a 104UG HiPro and a 104U white from which I'd planned to cobble a 45g 104UB-DK and add silencers. I considered it an end game. But that purchase stayed back ordered for so long I cancelled it (strong US dollar in CAD not helpful if it never ships).

I honestly never thought I'd get Topre, 45g uniform + silent right out of the box. And I'm super happy about it since this is a great baseline for calculating my satisfaction with other things topre like rubber dome swaps (cannot tell the difference* between 45g Type Heaven rubber and 45g Realforce 104 rubber) and silencing rings (the urethane foam Hypersphere rings are amazing).  I'm no longer eyeing greener pastures when it comes to the Topre variables I care about. Just sitting back waiting for that sweet typography. And my Granite Massdrop. Any day now. I'm gonna need a Novatouch...

* Type Heaven rubber is different than Realforce rubber -- TH has far more individual pieces that can be a pain to line up when reassembling the board; RF rubber comes in a contiguous sheet that is very simple to align. Once assembled I perceive no difference (except that maybe the TH has more resistance? j/k I said I can't tell!)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 05 March 2016, 21:36:26
I was under the newbie impression that Ducky used their own legends but after looking at many other RF pictures I see your point. Now I'm thinking there is a price difference because of how easy it is to spot the irregularities on the Taiwan edition. I rarely look at the legends myself but it is a little disheartening  :-\

The Ducky seems priced right in the middle of the field as far as the Realforce 104U family goes. The early 2015 Ducky 104UB-DK went on Massdrop last year between $215 and $230 and it didn't have silencing. So I'm not convinced its being sold at any discount. I honestly would not buy the silenced 104UB for the $255 price of the Ducky (the 104UB silent is currently $275 on EK.com) since I'd have to spend $125 or so on a Type Heaven for its rubber (technically I have another Type Heaven available but if I'm going D.I.Y. then I'm also going to dip into my personal stash of silencing rings).

I'm extremely thankful I found the 104UB-DK45S. I'd been so excited for the silent 104U products announced on Massdrop until I saw they were all variable weight. I had an order in with one retailer for a 104UG HiPro and a 104U white from which I'd planned to cobble a 45g 104UB-DK and add silencers. I considered it an end game. But that purchase stayed back ordered for so long I cancelled it (strong US dollar in CAD not helpful if it never ships).

I honestly never thought I'd get Topre, 45g uniform + silent right out of the box. And I'm super happy about it since this is a great baseline for calculating my satisfaction with other things topre like rubber dome swaps (cannot tell the difference* between 45g Type Heaven rubber and 45g Realforce 104 rubber) and silencing rings (the urethane foam Hypersphere rings are amazing).  I'm no longer eyeing greener pastures when it comes to the Topre variables I care about. Just sitting back waiting for that sweet typography. And my Granite Massdrop. Any day now. I'm gonna need a Novatouch...

* Type Heaven rubber is different than Realforce rubber -- TH has far more individual pieces that can be a pain to line up when reassembling the board; RF rubber comes in a contiguous sheet that is very simple to align. Once assembled I perceive no difference (except that maybe the TH has more resistance? j/k I said I can't tell!)
I'm not trying to sell you a RF board with Ducky keycaps man. I'm merely commenting on a price that is not scaled to accommodate Ducky's (probably) thicker PBT keycaps. I can't find comparison measurements of Ducky vs RF :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/rkWzNrJ.jpg)
Ducky Thick PBT Goodness Bonus Footage (found here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40605.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40605.0))

Mechanicalkeyboards.com has the UB104 (45g and 30g) for $255 USD which is a little cheaper than EK's $275 silenced RF board.

Haha, Novatouch sliders vs Shapeways $6 per slider.. no contest. I checked out the prices for taobao.com topre keysets.. holy moly, they're about $150 per set!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Sun, 06 March 2016, 00:32:13
I'm not trying to sell you a RF board with Ducky keycaps man. I'm merely commenting on a price that is not scaled to accommodate Ducky's (probably) thicker PBT keycaps. I can't find comparison measurements of Ducky vs RF :'(

Here are the measurements of the keys (http://imgur.com/a/6SRbc) I have in front of me.

Clockwise from the top left in the pic below I've got a Type Heaven ESC (gray), Ducky 104UB-DK45S ESC (pure white), Realforce 104UB ESC (black), Ducky 104UB-DK45S ESC (red), PFU Color Key Top Set blank (cyan),  and a Ducky 104UB-DK45S letter D (red) on its side.

It's exactly 1.11mm at the back wall of the RF and the Ducky. I can't say with any authority but it really looks like these keys came from the same molds. I could speculate on the numbers stamped on the inside, but that's treading into tea leaf territory. No one describes Topre as having thick PBT, but it's a high quality key cap nonetheless.

Normal apologies for the quality, I'm approaching the limits of iPhone macro photography.

(http://imgur.com/WNDqNKQ.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/dageYKE.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/qCEX3Jm.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/oyw5ar6.jpg)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 06 March 2016, 08:51:47
I'm not trying to sell you a RF board with Ducky keycaps man. I'm merely commenting on a price that is not scaled to accommodate Ducky's (probably) thicker PBT keycaps. I can't find comparison measurements of Ducky vs RF :'(

Here are the measurements of the keys (http://imgur.com/a/6SRbc) I have in front of me.

Clockwise from the top left in the pic below I've got a Type Heaven ESC (gray), Ducky 104UB-DK45S ESC (pure white), Realforce 104UB ESC (black), Ducky 104UB-DK45S ESC (red), PFU Color Key Top Set blank (cyan),  and a Ducky 104UB-DK45S letter D (red) on its side.

It's exactly 1.11mm at the back wall of the RF and the Ducky. I can't say with any authority but it really looks like these keys came from the same molds. I could speculate on the numbers stamped on the inside, but that's treading into tea leaf territory. No one describes Topre as having thick PBT, but it's a high quality key cap nonetheless.

Normal apologies for the quality, I'm approaching the limits of iPhone macro photography.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/WNDqNKQ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://imgur.com/dageYKE.jpg)


Show Image
(http://imgur.com/qCEX3Jm.jpg)


Show Image
(http://imgur.com/oyw5ar6.jpg)

Measurements! Huh, so.. curious. From the same mold? Thank you for that, the pictures are decent enough to make out the info.

Now I'm wondering if Ducky funded the manufacturing of the (PFU?) keycaps in exchange for a little marketing. Or perhaps PFU already had white caps and received reimbursement from Ducky for marketing. Or does Ducky have the exact same molds as PFU?!(http://i.imgur.com/3zm1R07.gif) 
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 06 March 2016, 09:01:27
Guys, it's branded as "Ducky" because they use their brand and distribution channels in China/Taiwan. The Leopold version is named as such for the same reasons in Korea. Otherwise, these are Topre/Realforce made boards. Keychatter has a review up of an actual Topre/Realforce brand 45G silenced board with black keycaps and flat winkeys (here (https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/19/review-realforce-104us-silenced-topre/)), and Massdrop/EK have been selling the new silenced variable editions which are Realforce branded.

The price hike is due to these being "limited edition" models to a degree, but more specifically being factory silenced (purple sliders).

Again, just to reiterate - Ducky/Leopold seem to only be involved in this in terms of branding/distribution. They had no hand in the production of the units or keycaps.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Sun, 06 March 2016, 22:45:36
Keychatter has a review up of an actual Topre/Realforce brand 45G silenced board with black keycaps and flat winkeys (here (https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/19/review-realforce-104us-silenced-topre/)), and Massdrop/EK have been selling the new silenced variable editions which are Realforce branded.

I really want livingspeedbump to confirm that 45g weight from his keychatter review. Massdrop links the review from their variable weight sale page (one is going on now w/PBT spacebars) and in each discussion thread people have to confirm that what is for sale is not 45g, but is variable weight.

The price hike is due to these being "limited edition" models to a degree, but more specifically being factory silenced (purple sliders).

The recent price discussion revolved around the $20 difference between the silent Ducky and the (more expensive) silent Realforce. I think we're both in agreement that the current pricing is in line with other models.

Again, just to reiterate - Ducky/Leopold seem to only be involved in this in terms of branding/distribution. They had no hand in the production of the units or keycaps.

Given the scarcity of aftermarket Topre I think many would love to learn the terms of that branding; however, absent any real information we MUST speculate!

Last year's Ducky 104UB-DK looked like it was a 104U white/gray keyset in a 104UG HiPro case (black with black branding sticker). But the 104UG has blue LEDs (http://imgur.com/a/RmLae.jpg) and the Ducky has red LEDs (http://imgur.com/MWfecIE.jpg). Now this year's Ducky features silencing and a key set in a color I've never seen. Are every one of these options available to and decided by the distributor or does Topre choose a combination?

The Leopold legends (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_1323_DSC_1268.jpg) are different from the Realforce. Did Leopold design the legends? Did Topre exercise any editorial control? Who thought up the Type Heaven RGB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfgNoVqua80)?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: jerue on Wed, 09 March 2016, 17:19:45
So I just got mine in today (I plan to harvest the sliders). I am not normally a fan of 45g Topre but typing on this board is really something...

I was pleasantly surprised by the standard wire keypuller (Topre...plz...) and the left control key!

(http://i.imgur.com/q8TNn2t.jpg)



I will probably use it for a few days and write a quick review. I plan on making a lot of comparisons (45 vs 55, Hypersphere vs Topre Silenced vs stock, etc), so feel free to ask questions!

Here's a quick typing sample (https://soundcloud.com/t-jerue/realforce-45g-stock-silenced) I took



I really want livingspeedbump to confirm that 45g weight from his keychatter review. Massdrop links the review from their variable weight sale page (one is going on now w/PBT spacebars) and in each discussion thread people have to confirm that what is for sale is not 45g, but is variable weight.

The paper in LSB's box says variable weight, but given this unit isn't documented anywhere (even the Deskthority reference list) I'm left scratching my head...
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 09 March 2016, 18:07:18
So I just got mine in today (I plan to harvest the sliders). I am not normally a fan of 45g Topre but typing on this board is really something...

I was pleasantly surprised by the standard wire keypuller (Topre...plz...) and the left control key!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/q8TNn2t.jpg)




I will probably use it for a few days and write a quick review. I plan on making a lot of comparisons (45 vs 55, Hypersphere vs Topre Silenced vs stock, etc), so feel free to ask questions!

Here's a quick typing sample (https://soundcloud.com/t-jerue/realforce-45g-stock-silenced) I took

Ohhh I'm very interested in how this compares to Hypersphere's silence ring, since I already have a 45g modded Realforce, I was debating if it's worth it to buy the Ducky one or just mod it with Hypersphere's rings.

I'll be looking forward to your review.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: losing_ctrl on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:02:05
...snip...

Here's a quick typing sample (https://soundcloud.com/t-jerue/realforce-45g-stock-silenced) I took

...snip


Thanks for that sound clip. Sounds nice and mellow. I love my 55g RealForce 87u, but am sorely tempted by the Ducky RealForce Taiwan Edition.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Thu, 10 March 2016, 04:08:57

Ohhh I'm very interested in how this compares to Hypersphere's silence ring, since I already have a 45g modded Realforce, I was debating if it's worth it to buy the Ducky one or just mod it with Hypersphere's rings.

I'll be looking forward to your review.  :thumb:

I was in the same boat as you. I had a 104UB modded to 45g uniform. The Hypersphere rings got my attention since he was very meticulous about getting it right. I pulled the trigger when he put another batch on ebay and was blown away by the way the typing experience improved by eliminating most of the noise.

I wanted a second keyboard for home, but could not do black on black legends given my ambient light but also didn't want a keyboard in a white case. Long story short instead of spending $$$ on a Realforce for home AND STILL having to add my own silencing rings I bought this year's Ducky. It has all the things I want.

Now, if I were you AND I needed a second Realforce I wouldn't hesitate. You get the 45g uniform, the silencing rings with fancy purple sliders all ready to go -- doesn't need hours to tear down and rebuild. But the downside to this, for me anyway, is that once you go silencing ring you won't want to go back. I'd be thinking about buying those Hypersphere rings for my other board all the time -- too curious to resist.

So if I didn't need a second fullsize Realforce I would eBay some Hypersphere silencing rings immediately. The hours of meticulous teardown and rebuild can be very Zen. You get everything cleaned up, rubber lined up, and when it all snaps together and its time to test it out... Mmmmm... silent Topre.

As far as the differences between Hyperphere rings and factory silenced Realforce, well, its subtle. The purple stem is apparently longer than the black stem by the thickness of one silencing ring (0.53mm). I swear that my Hypsphere silenced board does indeed have a barely perceivable shorter throw.  I did not detect this the day I installed the rings. Its only after typing all day on one and then transitioning to the other that I noticed a difference.

The Hypersphere silenced board is a delight to type on. It's not stiff (Type Heaven 45g rubber) and the keys don't clack in any way (Hypersphere's urethane foam may well be softer), and I like the slightly shorter key travel.  But the Ducky... the Ducky is tight. The pure white PBT caps are bone dry, and the switches bottom out into a controlled stacatto. The travel is not even a millimeter longer, but it lands so tightly at the bottom and returns so silently to the top. The Ducky is a crisp typing experience.

Good luck on your Topre road.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kekman on Thu, 10 March 2016, 05:54:31
Just a question, where do you guys source your domes? I'm currently in the process of modding my 87U to 45g but can't find any domes. Any options other than buying a used novatouch or similar?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 10 March 2016, 06:28:22
Just a question, where do you guys source your domes? I'm currently in the process of modding my 87U to 45g but can't find any domes. Any options other than buying a used novatouch or similar?

Gotta get them from a topre board

I got really lucky last year as this guy on ebay was selling novatouches brand new in box for $140 AUD
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: RexS on Thu, 10 March 2016, 16:53:36
Just a question, where do you guys source your domes? I'm currently in the process of modding my 87U to 45g but can't find any domes. Any options other than buying a used novatouch or similar?

No other option. I've been able to source used Type Heavens for around $100 and that gets you a good number of domes.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Sencha on Thu, 17 March 2016, 05:51:46
Ahh why no tkl. Full size gives me a soft-on :(
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 17 March 2016, 11:18:08

Ohhh I'm very interested in how this compares to Hypersphere's silence ring, since I already have a 45g modded Realforce, I was debating if it's worth it to buy the Ducky one or just mod it with Hypersphere's rings.

I'll be looking forward to your review.  :thumb:

I was in the same boat as you. I had a 104UB modded to 45g uniform. The Hypersphere rings got my attention since he was very meticulous about getting it right. I pulled the trigger when he put another batch on ebay and was blown away by the way the typing experience improved by eliminating most of the noise.

I wanted a second keyboard for home, but could not do black on black legends given my ambient light but also didn't want a keyboard in a white case. Long story short instead of spending $$$ on a Realforce for home AND STILL having to add my own silencing rings I bought this year's Ducky. It has all the things I want.

Now, if I were you AND I needed a second Realforce I wouldn't hesitate. You get the 45g uniform, the silencing rings with fancy purple sliders all ready to go -- doesn't need hours to tear down and rebuild. But the downside to this, for me anyway, is that once you go silencing ring you won't want to go back. I'd be thinking about buying those Hypersphere rings for my other board all the time -- too curious to resist.

So if I didn't need a second fullsize Realforce I would eBay some Hypersphere silencing rings immediately. The hours of meticulous teardown and rebuild can be very Zen. You get everything cleaned up, rubber lined up, and when it all snaps together and its time to test it out... Mmmmm... silent Topre.

As far as the differences between Hyperphere rings and factory silenced Realforce, well, its subtle. The purple stem is apparently longer than the black stem by the thickness of one silencing ring (0.53mm). I swear that my Hypsphere silenced board does indeed have a barely perceivable shorter throw.  I did not detect this the day I installed the rings. Its only after typing all day on one and then transitioning to the other that I noticed a difference.

The Hypersphere silenced board is a delight to type on. It's not stiff (Type Heaven 45g rubber) and the keys don't clack in any way (Hypersphere's urethane foam may well be softer), and I like the slightly shorter key travel.  But the Ducky... the Ducky is tight. The pure white PBT caps are bone dry, and the switches bottom out into a controlled stacatto. The travel is not even a millimeter longer, but it lands so tightly at the bottom and returns so silently to the top. The Ducky is a crisp typing experience.

Good luck on your Topre road.

Ohhhhhhhh thanks for the explanation !!!

Haha I'll aim for getting the Hypersphere rings first then.  When the Canadian dollar isn't so crap anymore sighhhhhh.  :(

But at least now I'll look forward to it.  :thumb:


Ahh why no tkl. Full size gives me a soft-on :(

I think because silence Topre tenkeyless already exist since a long time ago.  Granted probably not in the 45g format.

And Ducky Topre has always been full size.  :P
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Lurch on Thu, 17 March 2016, 11:20:48
Do these come with the alternate ctrl/caps lock keys?

I asked the same about one being sold in the classifieds, but just want to make sure. :confused:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 17 March 2016, 11:39:57
Nope.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80441.msg2097477#msg2097477
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: HendyZone on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:11:42
Do these come with the alternate ctrl/caps lock keys?

I asked the same about one being sold in the classifieds, but just want to make sure. :confused:

No, only Red Esc+WASD and the Ducky Wire Puller ;)
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: steelcity on Fri, 18 March 2016, 07:25:39
Getting mine in the mail today!  Can't wait to try out the Topre switches for the first time!

Does anyone know if the Light grey (white) PBT Spacebars from the recent GB and MD sales are an exact match to the white keys of the Ducky branded board?  Is this the same shade of white as on the normal Topre branded realforce?  If I end up keeping this board I'm sure I'll want a PBT spacebar for it.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 March 2016, 07:39:31
Getting mine in the mail today!  Can't wait to try out the Topre switches for the first time!

Does anyone know if the Light grey (white) PBT Spacebars from the recent GB and MD sales are an exact match to the white keys of the Ducky branded board?  Is this the same shade of white as on the normal Topre branded realforce?  If I end up keeping this board I'm sure I'll want a PBT spacebar for it.
I was under the impression the ducky white is a bright white and is different from any other Topre set.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: steelcity on Fri, 18 March 2016, 10:12:43
That's what I was thinking.  Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:06:31
The PBT space bar is a considerable off white compared to the Ducky.  I've thrown the red PBT space bar on there which doesn't look too bad (I've also added a red esc and arrow keys).  However, after 2+ months of use, I've unfortunately already noticed some staining on the ctrl key. Time to give the Ducky a break and switch to the 55g.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: steelcity on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:07:38
Well, I just got it (typing on it now) and I have to say that I'm not a big fan of the keycaps.  They do look like they will stain very easily.  And boy are they bright!  Blinding coming from the navy caps on my FC900! 

My first impression of the Topre switch was a bit weird coming from a mx blues and browns on ducky boards and FC900 boards.  But it's not a bad feeling.  I definitely want to try a 55G uniform, but I don't know if they make one is a silent version 103 or 104 key.

It is definitely MUCH quieter than a mx brown switch keyboard. 

Not sure whether to give this a few weeks to test out or to box it back up so I can sell it like new.  Even if I do decide that Topre is my end game switch, I would probably prefer the black keycaps from the normal Topre branded Realforces at EK. 

Why is choosing a keyboard so hard and why I am so obsessed with it???   :eek:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:23:08
I was a bit taken a back by the white caps as well, but it does eventually grow on you.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 21 March 2016, 05:12:51
That's what I was thinking.  Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!

Hopefully Ducky might make some Topre full sets in various colours (that would also be compatible with RealForce and/or HHKB) ...
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: steelcity on Mon, 21 March 2016, 08:51:20
I've decided to sell my Ducky Topre in favor of my FC900's, which I am going to be modding with Zealios (going to one board with 65G purples and one with 67G purples to test both switches).  I like the feeling of the Topre switch, but wasn't a big fan of the board itself.  I think if Leopold came out with an FC900 with 55g uniform silent Topre switches I'd give that one a try, but I think that's a long shot.  I'm really digging the FC900 board with the Navy front print keycaps.  I'm hoping that adding the Zealios will make it my end-game board and then I can get on with life!   :p
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 21 March 2016, 13:23:47
That's what I was thinking.  Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!

Hopefully Ducky might make some Topre full sets in various colours (that would also be compatible with RealForce and/or HHKB) ...
Someone makes them somewhere. Ducky could do better and make two-toned sets! Taobao sets are insanely priced atm
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: jerue on Mon, 21 March 2016, 14:42:43
I've decided to sell my Ducky Topre in favor of my FC900's, which I am going to be modding with Zealios (going to one board with 65G purples and one with 67G purples to test both switches).  I like the feeling of the Topre switch, but wasn't a big fan of the board itself.  I think if Leopold came out with an FC900 with 55g uniform silent Topre switches I'd give that one a try, but I think that's a long shot.  I'm really digging the FC900 board with the Navy front print keycaps.  I'm hoping that adding the Zealios will make it my end-game board and then I can get on with life!   :p

Just curious, what was it that made you decide to sell off the Ducky Realforce? Personally I am not a fan of full size boards, so that would impact me more than anything. Leopolds are good keyboards but I think the Realforce is a better quality keyboard throughout.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: steelcity on Mon, 21 March 2016, 14:50:44
I think it was mostly hating the keycaps (and the thought of dropping $150 for an alternate set) and I feel like I would like the 55g better if anything. 

I decided to stick with the Fc900s in MX Brown for now, which I will be modding with Zealios as soon as they come in, and then I will give those a good for the moment.  I just really like typing on the Leopolds, and I LOVE the keycaps.  PBT, Navy, Front Print, and windowed lock keys.

I figure if someone releases a FS Realforce board with 55G uniform silent switches with decent keycaps I will try again at that point.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 22 March 2016, 05:08:34
That's what I was thinking.  Hopefully they can include a matching bright white spacebar for the next pbt spacebar GB / MD !!!

Hopefully Ducky might make some Topre full sets in various colours (that would also be compatible with RealForce and/or HHKB) ...
Someone makes them somewhere. Ducky could do better and make two-toned sets! Taobao sets are insanely priced atm

Yeah, this.

Ducky has all sorts of neat colours - blue/gray, green/cream, yellow/yellow - they'd sell a s***load of sets if they were RealForce compatible and sensibly priced, especially as RealForce sets are no longer available.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Tue, 22 March 2016, 08:32:22
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder.  Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: steelcity on Tue, 22 March 2016, 08:37:58
Yeah, I agree that they need better colors.  The pure white gave me the impression that they would stain very easily.  It looked/felt almost porous compared to the Navy caps on the FC900.

Oh, and I forgot to mentioned the other reason I prefer my FC900 is the much more compact form factor of the board.  The Realforce just felt/looked huge compared to the FC900 with all of that extra space at the top.  Fullsized boards are large to begin with, so I appreciate that the FC900 is about as compact as you can get.  My Ducky Shines seemed large in comparison as well.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: jerue on Tue, 22 March 2016, 08:39:19

Ducky has all sorts of neat colours - blue/gray, green/cream, yellow/yellow - they'd sell a s***load of sets if they were RealForce compatible and sensibly priced, especially as RealForce sets are no longer available.

If anyone could convince Topre to start making colored sets again it should be Ducky...can only hope though :/



My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder.  Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.

This was one of my thoughts when reviewing the board as well. It's a fantastic board throughout and I could put up with the bright keycaps if only it were TKL! It's such a refined Topre experience with those sliders; crisp, but not loud. If only the white case/black keycaps in TKL existed.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Tue, 22 March 2016, 09:34:06
Well, Leopold convinced them to use the 10AE Grey/Blue on their fullsize which I am using, and they have updated the JIS sets to have flat winkeys along with these new ANSI board sets that we have, so it's possible we will see the introduction of some new Realforce ANSI sets outside of Korea in the future.. but it may only be for a limited time again.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 24 March 2016, 05:46:08
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder.  Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.

Not having a 55g version is another serious omission.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Thu, 24 March 2016, 06:24:23
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder.  Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.

Not having a 55g version is another serious omission.

True that is one i had not thought of though one i can live without since i still use the HHKB  Pro 2 and switch back and forth to my 55g RF without too much of an issue.  However full size boards just irk the hell out of me in common usage it's one of the only reasons iv'e held out so long on a model M since the SSK boards are just so damn expensive.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 25 March 2016, 22:47:44
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced.  Just so much more refined in my opinion.

Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 25 March 2016, 22:59:58
Thus far, I have come to the same conclusion - I am finding more enjoyment with the 104UB-45KBS over the RF87U 55G in my testing over the past week or so.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 March 2016, 04:46:49
My only issue with these less i'm mistaken is it is not offered in a TKL version and FullSize boards aggravate the hell out of my shoulder.  Were they do to a TKL version i'd likely eventually bite for a TKL brother for my Realforce 87u 55G.

Not having a 55g version is another serious omission.

True that is one i had not thought of though one i can live without since i still use the HHKB  Pro 2 and switch back and forth to my 55g RF without too much of an issue.  However full size boards just irk the hell out of me in common usage it's one of the only reasons iv'e held out so long on a model M since the SSK boards are just so damn expensive.

I switch between my HHKB and all sorts of other keyboards (currently an SSK at home and MX clears at work).  I also have a board with MX reds.  The reds are waaay too light, but I can tolerate the HHKB.

Makes me wonder whether I'd like a 45g TKL Topre board or not.  I think I'd probably prefer a 55g one, which is what I'd buy if I had the money.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: shortround on Fri, 06 May 2016, 00:40:16
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced.  Just so much more refined in my opinion.

Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.

I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket.  I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California!  This guy is legit.  I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it.  I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth...  that's how white they are.  Blinding. 

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: losing_ctrl on Fri, 06 May 2016, 07:37:05
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced.  Just so much more refined in my opinion.

Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.

I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket.  I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California!  This guy is legit.  I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it.  I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth...  that's how white they are.  Blinding.

Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Fri, 06 May 2016, 08:53:07
Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.

Last I checked there was only one left so maybe shortround got the last one.  He may get more in stock, however.

I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket.  I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California!  This guy is legit.  I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it.  I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth...  that's how white they are.  Blinding. 

Yea, I got the same board from him and also live in California.  Got here in like 3 days! Will definitely buy from him again.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: dante on Fri, 06 May 2016, 12:19:24
The only way I'll look at Topre again is if they sell a 30g 87UB silent for under $250 shipped.

^ not bloody likely.  Currently waiting for MechanicalKeyboards.com to stock the PLUM 84 35g silent.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: shortround on Sat, 07 May 2016, 00:19:18
I was part of the 55g camp, but after switching back from the Ducky Realforce to 55g, I think I prefer the 45g silenced over 55g non-silenced.  Just so much more refined in my opinion.

Still very curious about 55g silenced, however.

I also picked up a blue/grey 45g board from widebasket.  I didn't know something could ship so fast from S. Korea to California!  This guy is legit.  I wanted a uniform 45g silenced full size board and the Ducky Taiwan was interesting to me, but I knew I would eventually want to change out those keycaps which would have added $100 or more to the cost of it.  I mean those Taiwan edition keycaps are as white as the singer from Winger's teeth...  that's how white they are.  Blinding.

Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.

It had to be the last day or two that he had them in stock.  Maybe he will re-stock considering he sold them all.

Wow, when did you pick up that board? I just checked widebasket's eBay page and he didn't have any of those for sale.

Last I checked there was only one left so maybe shortround got the last one.  He may get more in stock, however.



Yea, I got the same board from him and also live in California.  Got here in like 3 days! Will definitely buy from him again.

I got the second to last one available.   :thumb:

Amazing how fast that guy can ship across the world!   :eek:

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: losing_ctrl on Tue, 24 May 2016, 13:17:53
OK I see that the Ducky RealForce Taiwan Edition has been sold out for awhile, so I thought I'd throw out this question -

Is there only going to be one "run" of these boards?

I have convinced myself that I want a full size RealForce 45g Topre board, preferably a 104 ANSI model, but I don't see any out there for sale, new. I'm tempted to get a Type-S 45g 108 JIS model because that's what I see is available for purchase - and the colored key caps for 108s are way cheaper than the English 104s. I am finding that I can adapt to the slightly different layout of the JIS model, as my main board these days is a HHKB Pro JP.

Would love to see a Type-S 55g RealForce 104 board made available!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 25 May 2016, 09:04:56
OK I see that the Ducky RealForce Taiwan Edition has been sold out for awhile, so I thought I'd throw out this question -

Is there only going to be one "run" of these boards?

I have convinced myself that I want a full size RealForce 45g Topre board, preferably a 104 ANSI model, but I don't see any out there for sale, new. I'm tempted to get a Type-S 45g 108 JIS model because that's what I see is available for purchase - and the colored key caps for 108s are way cheaper than the English 104s. I am finding that I can adapt to the slightly different layout of the JIS model, as my main board these days is a HHKB Pro JP.

Would love to see a Type-S 55g RealForce 104 board made available!

If you absolutely must have a full size silent realforce, widebasket has put more up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-104-Keys-Electrostatic-Capacitive-Switch-Keyboard-All-45g-PBT-/272114235799
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: losing_ctrl on Wed, 25 May 2016, 11:50:34
OK I see that the Ducky RealForce Taiwan Edition has been sold out for awhile, so I thought I'd throw out this question -

Is there only going to be one "run" of these boards?

I have convinced myself that I want a full size RealForce 45g Topre board, preferably a 104 ANSI model, but I don't see any out there for sale, new. I'm tempted to get a Type-S 45g 108 JIS model because that's what I see is available for purchase - and the colored key caps for 108s are way cheaper than the English 104s. I am finding that I can adapt to the slightly different layout of the JIS model, as my main board these days is a HHKB Pro JP.

Would love to see a Type-S 55g RealForce 104 board made available!

If you absolutely must have a full size silent realforce, widebasket has put more up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-104-Keys-Electrostatic-Capacitive-Switch-Keyboard-All-45g-PBT-/272114235799

Thanks for this link. I did not know it was going to carry such a premium, yikes!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 25 May 2016, 23:14:49
Yea...  I sometimes can't believe I paid that much, but the color scheme is much better than the Ducky version IMO!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: shortround on Thu, 26 May 2016, 19:57:26
Yea...  I sometimes can't believe I paid that much, but the color scheme is much better than the Ducky version IMO!

That was exactly what sold me.  I knew I wouldn't keep those super bright keycaps if I bought the Ducky Taiwan.  Besides, you only need one kidney right? 

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:52:27
So would anyone happen to have a Ducky Realforce in 30g they would want to trade (or sell) for a Ducky Realforce in 45g, or am I going to have to go hunt down a Chinese YOTG board? :P

I like the 45g model, but I think I would prefer 30g domes.

Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Ashlyn on Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:58:50
I want TKL version of this one !
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Sun, 02 October 2016, 16:04:16
I want TKL version of this one !

That would be pretty sick. Pictures don't do this board justice for just how clean it looks on one's desk. The bright caps are amazing, imo. :) It'd look nice in TKL layout.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Ashlyn on Sun, 02 October 2016, 16:18:30
I want TKL version of this one !

That would be pretty sick. Pictures don't do this board justice for just how clean it looks on one's desk. The bright caps are amazing, imo. :) It'd look nice in TKL layout.
Realforce should add some more design  :thumb:
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:13:00
If realforce comes out with a 60% keyboard it'd be immediately on the top of my buy list.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Tactile on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:55:26
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
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Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:28:18
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
(Attachment Link)

Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Tactile on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:40:03
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
(Attachment Link)

Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?

Yes & yes.

https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt1
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:45:59
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
(Attachment Link)

Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?

A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:22:20
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
(Attachment Link)

Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?

A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky

Not exactly. :P Just a keyset that's similar put on a TKL.

What weight do you use, Tactile?
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:33:50
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
(Attachment Link)

Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?

A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky

Not exactly. :P Just a keyset that's similar put on a TKL.

What weight do you use, Tactile?

Oh, the link right. Looks like the same kerning on the Ducky Taiwan keyset. But I guess the indicators are way different. My mistake 
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: Tactile on Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:35:22
I want TKL version of this one !

Something like this, perhaps?
(Attachment Link)

Is that yours, Tactile? I'm assuming there was an all white Realforce cap set released at some point, yeah?

A full-sized Realforce/Ducky Taiwan keyset that Tactile switched to a Realforce tkl? Tricky tricky

Not exactly. :P Just a keyset that's similar put on a TKL.

What weight do you use, Tactile?

It's 55 gram.

I had a friend over a few days ago who is not into keyboards at all. I sat him down & started putting keyboards in front of him - "This one is MX blues" - "This is PCB mounted MX blacks" - you know how it goes...

I set this Realforce in front of him & I just wish I'd been filming or at least had a photo of his face when he pressed a key on this keyboard. His first question was "Why haven't I heard of these Topre switches?". Anyway, I'm pretty happy with it.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:38:35
Oh, the link right. Looks like the same kerning on the Ducky Taiwan keyset. But I guess the indicators are way different. My mistake

As a newbie to Topre, but a lurker on the subject for a while, I thought the kerning issue was typical for Realforce key cap sets.

It's 55 gram.

I had a friend over a few days ago who is not into keyboards at all. I sat him down & started putting keyboards in front of him - "This one is MX blues" - "This is PCB mounted MX blacks" - you know how it goes...

I set this Realforce in front of him & I just wish I'd been filming or at least had a photo of his face when he pressed a key on this keyboard. His first question was "Why haven't I heard of these Topre switches?". Anyway, I'm pretty happy with it.

Nice, very nice. I'm the opposite. With these I want to experience 30g domes. Don't get me wrong, 55g also sounds nice, but I think tactile switches aren't really my thing, from using MX and Alps and 45g (and variable weight) Topre. Alps SKCM Brown and Green are very Topre-like, but even heavier than 55g, so to me, going the other way, with something lighter would be more unique.
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:48:35
Oh, the link right. Looks like the same kerning on the Ducky Taiwan keyset. But I guess the indicators are way different. My mistake

As a newbie to Topre, but a lurker on the subject for a while, I thought the kerning issue was typical for Realforce key cap sets.

It's 55 gram.

I had a friend over a few days ago who is not into keyboards at all. I sat him down & started putting keyboards in front of him - "This one is MX blues" - "This is PCB mounted MX blacks" - you know how it goes...

I set this Realforce in front of him & I just wish I'd been filming or at least had a photo of his face when he pressed a key on this keyboard. His first question was "Why haven't I heard of these Topre switches?". Anyway, I'm pretty happy with it.

Nice, very nice. I'm the opposite. With these I want to experience 30g domes. Don't get me wrong, 55g also sounds nice, but I think tactile switches aren't really my thing, from using MX and Alps and 45g (and variable weight) Topre. Alps SKCM Brown and Green are very Topre-like, but even heavier than 55g, so to me, going the other way, with something lighter would be more unique.

Probably just easier to spot on an all white keyset /shrug
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:57:07
Probably just easier to spot on an all white keyset /shrug

I do believe it was this review that first clued me in on the issue:


As far as my plans for the Topre lyfe; I don't plan on going too far down the rabbit hole. I actually really like the look of the Taiwan Edition. My only desire is to have 30g domes instead of 45g.

norbauer's aluminum NT case is a tempting proposition, but that'll open up way too many doors for splurging :P
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: bloorocket on Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:26:09
This post convinced me to buy one. Good job OP, now i am $250 poorer.
But everytime I am sad, I type and I am ok again.
Surreal board really, the nice blend of build quality, the badass sliders, the keycaps and the typing experience is just brilliant!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: E3E on Fri, 04 November 2016, 01:14:15
This post convinced me to buy one. Good job OP, now i am $250 poorer.
But everytime I am sad, I type and I am ok again.
Surreal board really, the nice blend of build quality, the badass sliders, the keycaps and the typing experience is just brilliant!

Welcome to the club, man! The asian market seems to have a bunch left around. Much harder to find in the states. But yeah, I like the Ducky Realforce a lot!
Title: Re: Ducky Realforce Taiwan Edition
Post by: bloorocket on Fri, 04 November 2016, 06:11:42
This post convinced me to buy one. Good job OP, now i am $250 poorer.
But everytime I am sad, I type and I am ok again.
Surreal board really, the nice blend of build quality, the badass sliders, the keycaps and the typing experience is just brilliant!

Welcome to the club, man! The asian market seems to have a bunch left around. Much harder to find in the states. But yeah, I like the Ducky Realforce a lot!

Now let the Topre set hunting begins, waiting for Matt3o new colours to come out, whenever that is lol