(http://://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1333132/1/Fuqnaround/)Actually my finding this site can't be blamed on Blizzard alone. You see, I enjoy games. I love them so much that I will upgrade or adjust every component or setting until I reach that sweet spot where the mouse sensitivity is extraordinary and you online experience gaming is wonderful and LAGLESS. This is after hours of mouse fix, video field of vision adjustment to config files in the game root directory so you get that perfect crisp text with image quality that drinks you inside a very real world blocking out any hint that you left the physical plane via mental craft work only skilled game developers code into your preexisting addictive personality. Sadly these settings come at huge cost in time searching out specific forums for those extra tips others have tried and took the time to share. Still more cost comes at the frustration you get when you realize that the settings, while ideal for Battlefield Bad Company do not carry over to Modern Warfare or Star Craft. Whats more,I've sunk thousands of dollars just on mice, keyboards and audio equipment (earphones and speakers), gimmick game surfaces, ergonomic chairs and arm rests. An equal amount thrown at getting my windows experience to provide me a solid 7.6 and a consistent 200 fps on my favorite first person shooter. Then Star Craft blows all my performance to hell. luck to get 60 fps per game and lag is unplayable at times. I find myself getting worse and they have demoted me from 2 leagues already. I have sent them a rage email for which I later sent an apology to Blizzard to which they replied with a lol.
I live near Blizzard and have friends that work there yet I can't progress at these games. It comes down to the fact that I am easily flustered when harassed, I am weak psychologically. This is what I have determined finally through the above process of elimination. That for all the resources both real and virtual I spend trying to put myself in an advantage over an opponent, an early worker rush or harass will deflate me rather easily causing a rash of cursing and table pounding and a quick alt+F4.
But Im always down to playhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1333132/1/Fuqnaround/ (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1333132/1/Fuqnaround/)
(http://://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1333132/1/Fuqnaround/)Actually my finding this site can't be blamed on Blizzard alone. You see, I enjoy games. I love them so much that I will upgrade or adjust every component or setting until I reach that sweet spot where the mouse sensitivity is extraordinary and you online experience gaming is wonderful and LAGLESS. This is after hours of mouse fix, video field of vision adjustment to config files in the game root directory so you get that perfect crisp text with image quality that drinks you inside a very real world blocking out any hint that you left the physical plane via mental craft work only skilled game developers code into your preexisting addictive personality. Sadly these settings come at huge cost in time searching out specific forums for those extra tips others have tried and took the time to share.
Hot damn that's a lot of 2v2 games. I find multi-team play much more difficult than 1v1.
For those of you who are worried about skills, we can always play a 4v4, or a comp stomp. Starcraft is, unfortunately, a game where skill disparities are amplified.
Nice Maynak - how much you selling it for? What do you think about the FW-900 vs the new 120hz lcd monitors?
Nice Maynak - how much you selling it for? What do you think about the FW-900 vs the new 120hz lcd monitors?
There are some people who took gaming so seriously on CRTs that literally it changed their vision on how they played games. I recall running into a number of CRT users who said when they played on LCDs it was a slide show literally. Some of these people were gaming on refresh rates as high as 200Hz, so what they saw was vastly different then an LCD user. So much so some quit gaming and some who didn't understand it was the CRT itself that helped them out.
Is this like how ppl in those 1v1 fighting games like tekken or street fighter can "count frames".
I'm very reluctant to give it up, but there's some sort of interference in my new office/computer room (we moved) that causes the image to jiggle. If I take it to the opposite side of my house (the dining room) it works fine, but it's not like I can set my PC up over there. So I got screwed into selling it :(
Either way, I'm asking for $400 + shipping.
damn. I need to start horking these old KB's that I don't use and save up for that FW900. I used to have insufficient desk space for such a beast but now I might cause I put my keyboard onto a keyboard tray.. I'll PM ya if I can scratch up the dough. :)
My dilemma is that with a good CRT I need my system to crank out probably 100 fps constant on whatever game I want to play. Currently I use a Dell 2209wa overclocked to 74hz refresh, running at 1680x1050. I have a 4:3 dell trinitron CRT but because of the aspect ratio on it I don't want to lose the side parts of my vision on SC2, thus I would have to run it with black bars on top and bottom. So the only CRT that I know of that is native wide screen in the FW900, but I'd need to pretty much build a new system to get the 100fps on SC2 to drive the monitor to it's fullest extent.. too bad money dosen't grow on trees.
Make sure there are no magnets, AC adapters, or speakers near your monitor. I've had similar interference issues with my CRT's before.
We should play a 4v4 have Mic on all the time. That would be kinda funny to have all the click and clack obscuring our ability to communicate :)I keep my ventrilo chat with my mic on continuously, and my friends all ***** about my Filco with blues constantly. It's awesome.
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I keep my ventrilo chat with my mic on continuously, and my friends all ***** about my Filco with blues constantly. It's awesome.
And CRTs... CRTs are dreamy. After my monitor got stolen last year, I connected my space 19" CRT and played a bit of Modern Warfare 2 on it at 85Hz. To call it dramatically smoother is an understatement. But alas, I have no desk space.
Shoey.467 here
I'm a 2550 diamond zerg.
I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?
I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?
Wow
I frequent the forums, but am nowhere near as good as you. How's the Compaq working for you in SC2? I couldn't get used to the feel, and mine has been in the box since I bought it (yes, my feel-testing was conducted with the keyboard in the box).
Welcome shoefactory. Consider taking a hacksaw to your MX11800(link) (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:9542&do=comments&page=2) to get rid of the trackball and tenkeyless section. Also, after you open it up I would suggest using some foamy type tape onto the PCB to stabilize it in relation to the case. It makes the keyboard feel much nicer and less flexy. Awesome choice of first keyboard, it is my daily work keyboard.
Shoey.467 here
I'm a 2550 diamond zerg.
I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?
Elbowglue #640 here
Whats your ID azureman?
Is there even a way to add a person without the code or email?
EDIT finished adding everyone I could, add me! And if anyone uses Xfire, I'm AndrewZorn. As I don't run SC2 in the background all day, that's probably a better way to find me.
right click, and add as friend.
...if I'm in the game, but how do I do it if I can't see their profile in the game? That's what I'm saying.
Short of doing sc2ranks searches, which I'm not willing.
Match history is the easiest way to add people without their friend codes.
I spent some time in team games today and mass 3/3 marines with medivacs are hilarious. 113 marines and 19 medivacs at the end of the game. Ruined so many lives.
Yeah I think its unfortunate Bnet decided to forego unique identities. It was much easier to friend back then. Now you're only supposed to friend people you know or something.
Match history is the easiest way to add people without their friend codes.Indeed, I'm ranked fairly high in 2v2, and terran infantry is definitely "OP." It's mostly OP because no one seems to use psi storm or infestors at all, surprisingly.
I spent some time in team games today and mass 3/3 marines with medivacs are hilarious. 113 marines and 19 medivacs at the end of the game. Ruined so many lives.
Is there even a way to add a person without the code or email?
EDIT finished adding everyone I could, add me! And if anyone uses Xfire, I'm AndrewZorn. As I don't run SC2 in the background all day, that's probably a better way to find me.
InfestorsI'm not sure if that was directed at me. My point wasn't that there aren't units that can efficiently kill infantry, but rather that even in high ranked games, I find that my opponents do not get those units. I can honestly say that < 5% of my opponents use storm or infestors. Ultralisks are too late, and it's difficult to get a 2nd expo in a 2v2. Siege tanks are good. Hellion don't do well against infantry, and I find Colossai easy to counter, since I already have a reactor starport.
Ultralisks
Colloxen
Storm
Siege Tanks
Hellions
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I was referring to those as being good vs massed marines, but not to be demeaning to you. Those units always give me the most trouble.
Hellions aren't good late game, but everyone always underestimates the mobility and AoE of blue flame Hellions mid-game.
I'm not sure if that was directed at me. My point wasn't that there aren't units that can efficiently kill infantry, but rather that even in high ranked games, I find that my opponents do not get those units. I can honestly say that < 5% of my opponents use storm or infestors. Ultralisks are too late, and it's difficult to get a 2nd expo in a 2v2. Siege tanks are good. Hellion don't do well against infantry, and I find Colossai easy to counter, since I already have a reactor starport.
Crypt, define high rated. I see all those anti-infantry units on a regular basis.We're consistently matched against top 10 2v2 teams, some of which are surprisingly bad, TBH, even for team players. The only anti-infantry units I see regularly are Siege Tanks and Colossai (which I find easy to counter.)
mass infantry is the counter to ultras.
helions are terrible for anything other than economy harasment.
infestors right now are not so popular due to their high gas cost and the infantry tank style that most terrans play. infestors die too fast to tank fire + you need to micro banelings at the same time so they dont hit tanks or marauders.
We're consistently matched against top 10 2v2 teams, some of which are surprisingly bad, TBH, even for team players. The only anti-infantry units I see regularly are Siege Tanks and Colossai (which I find easy to counter.)
I'd like to know what they are as I've heard of no such thing. I know 2v2 isn't considered nearly as competitive as 1v1 but I still think it is fairly 'balanced'.
Storm is great, don't get me wrong, but there's a very good reason you don't see it unless a game goes like 30+ minutes, and most games don't.
You weren't around for the 6 or 7 pool with Proxy 6 rax reaper where you? One of the most "lol balance" things I ever saw. The depot before Barracks nerf killed that out mostly. But 2v2 is hardly balanced. So many early all-ins that are just brutally effective and so on.
2v2 high level and 1v1 high level are completely different beasts.Agreed, that's why I tried to emphasize 2v2 and team games in every one of my posts.
Why yes, I was around for that. However, the past does not influence me when I use present-tense.
I don't see much to complain about in 2v2 that I don't complain about in 1v1. Yes, it plays differently, T1 units win the game... that doesn't make it broken.
That's the idea, but we usually beat all platinums, which throws us into high diamond. lose to all high diamonds, so put back in platinum.
maybe im wrong, but this is the 3rd time we got promoted to diamond, and started in top 200NA.
When you get promoted to diamond, it should match you against low diamonds if it was matching you against platinums before (according to the theory.) I could see how it could be problematic if it wasn't.It doesn't though. I rack up points in high Plat, so stat in high Diamond right after. Lose more than I win, get bumped back down to Plat. Start over.
Will anyone be on tonight. I just finished my last final and I might give this game a try again. I have voice coms.
add your starcraft 2 profile to your signature.
like my signature!
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add your starcraft 2 profile to your signature.
like my signature!
http://sc2sig.com/
Everyone says that... do basic macro properly and you will get to Diamond easily. I don't know if things have changed since those people got Diamond (supposedly it's gotten harder) or if there is exaggeration.
Totally willing to play a game with someone on this concern. I'm doing the worker/supply thing fine, I really don't think it's all you need to get to Diamond. Everyone in Gold and up is doing proper macro techniques, from what I see.
Hey, so Battle.net keeps going down. If I don't get back on, it's not because I didn't enjoy the conversation, but that I simply gave up.
Well, I posted second here but back then I wasn't even ranked. So here's my profile (EU, NewbieOne, 967):
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1744281/1/NewbieOne/
I'm ranked low silver in solo and it seems to be kinda reliable despite some weirdness about the placement matches (I lost one placement match by unnecessarily building up some defences before banshee-pushing a Protoss player that managed to survive and outcheese me with DT). In the beginning, I won most bronze matchups and lost all silver matchups but now I end up beating the highest ranked silver doods but not getting any gold matchups. I guess this is because I still need much practice of the basics.
I got gold in the 3v3 placement and I kinda consistently stay near the middle (this is probably because team is a bit more forgiving, you don't need to have everything covered and everything does not depend on you all the time). I'd probably move up somewhat if I played team league but right now I'm replaying the campaign missions on hard and focusing on solo if I do play league. I'm a bit torn, however, as to which league I should play.
Apparently the system takes multiple things into account when considering whom you are going to play in terms of skill. It is rumored that macro stats and your micro/personal physical computer characteristics(APM) are also taken into consideration because they improve your ability to act upon things when making decisions.
The only way to get better is to continue playing and or practicing with people whom are better than you.
We gotta get a GeekHack channel going so we can play with each other considering channels are now available with the new patch.
Where did you hear that? There was a big ladder analysis done on Team Liquid where they determined it was a hidden MMR rating for everyone that determined rankings and favored vs unfavored. The analysis was then submitted to Blizzard, who then said "close, but not quite".This is correct, APM etc is not taken into consideration. Pretty sure I saw Blizzard confirmed that the end result is all that matters.
A general idea of how you get ranked is that Bnet matches you against people who's MMR ratings are similar to you, then puts you against people with higher MMR ratings if you show a winning ratio. If you lose against the player with the higher MMR rating, they keep you at your level.
This is correct, APM etc is not taken into consideration. Pretty sure I saw Blizzard confirmed that the end result is all that matters.
This is correct, APM etc is not taken into consideration. Pretty sure I saw Blizzard confirmed that the end result is all that matters.
Now that there are chat channels, yeah, I'll have mine to auto-sign-in to GeekHack... hopefully I'll see some people ever.
I haven't played ladders much lately, just random 4s and 2s with a friend. The system just gives me too much anxiety, so had to chill on that. But, I'm always down to practice some friendly 1s or SotIS.
Hit me up! Add via email (danwang918 at gmail dot com) or character code.
After this happened, I had to save it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3I4ys8s3qE
What is the Geekhack channel? Is it just Geekhack?
Think so, though I haven't seen anyone on... ever :(
Think so, though I haven't seen anyone on... ever :(
So, I just beat Elbowglue's noob ass in 2v2...
EDIT rude, false statement gets no attention?
Let's see more people in the geekhack sc2 chat!
I've been very tempted to log on and play a few games again. I haven't played since the beta. In the end ego won out and prevented me from wasting minutes of your collective time.
As for watching SC2, though, I've been watching a ton of coverage of the various team leagues. While some of the builds have been very interesting, I've been a bit disappointed with how one-sided the matches have been. I'm certainly still enjoying the VODs, though.
If by some small chance you haven't seen it, I highly recommend that you watch the ladder match between EGIdra and IMmvp. In a word? Wicked.
For anyone that knows day9, or has watched his dailies, hes trying to win the shorty awards competition, and put in a good word for esports at the acceptance ceremony.
If you haven't heard of him, you should check out some of his vods at http://day9tv.blip.tv/?sort=custom;view=archive;date=;user=day9tv;s=posts;nsfw=dc;page=1 (http://day9tv.blip.tv/?sort=custom;view=archive;date=;user=day9tv;s=posts;nsfw=dc;page=1). He's a analytical starcraft 2 caster.
If you thought IdrA vs MVP was good, wait until you get to the finals of the GSTL between Startale (ST) and Incredible Miracle (IM). There are some very, very SIIIIICK games towards the end with some of the best players in the world (including IMMVP).
It's a definite must watch if you're a fan of SC2.
Indeed! I watched them day-of, when I got home from the warehouse. Kudos for the lack of spoilers, too, sir.
I took your advice and watched Daily 132 along with his recent show about hotkeys, mouse movement, and APM. They were great. Then I booted the game and tried to implement what Day mentioned. I was embarrassed at how bad I am. Long, long, long way to go; I'm still sub-bronze.
Yeah, I'm still at the stage where I play an incompetent, low-level AI and simply try to properly manage my macro. I start over if I get supply-blocked, forget to expand, or let my minerals excess 1000. *shrug* We'll see. I've been chomping at the bit waiting for Rift to release, but I'm enjoying the challenge this is providing.
Aside: Assembly was weird and the GSL Code A pairings are up.
Edit: Grats on your point gain! I may soon be watching you in the TSL Qualifiers.
Anteloptics.107 - Master league terran.
I don't have a computer to play on when I'm at school though, so I won't be on again until my next break in March (I have pretty much the entire month off).
Protoss imba.
By the way, if anybody here would like help with improving their play, I welcome you to go ahead and shoot me a message whenever you see me on Bnet. I have no problem with spending some time discussing strategies, going over replays, or playing some practice games to work on builds and mechanics.
As I said before, I can't play when I'm at school, but I'm going to be home for pretty much the entire month of March and I won't have much to do, so expect me to be on A LOT during that time.
I play on both the NA and EU servers (Anteloptics.107 on both of them).
Also, did/does anybody else here play Broodwar? Just wondering.
Btw Sawedust, was fun playing, too bad you don't seem to come on 'till later. We'll have to give that another go, I've been working on my opening a little more, but definitely need to return my mouse to razer >_<
I used to play brood war but my monitor is way too big and stretches the resolution to a horrible skew. I used to LAN it with my friends and we would play big game hunters.
Starcraft 2 is pretty fun but its not the same as sc1. sc1 units were more dynamic and was not based entirely on rock paper scissors.
Reavers, lurkers, tanks all required tons of control in sc1. You had to use a shuttle and drop, fire, then pick up.
Lurkers had to move when they were scanned and use zerglings to aid as fodder.
There was defilers with swarm so you could eat zerglings and do swarm hopping.
In sc2 there is the colossus, which is just an attack move unit, and tanks have smart fire-they target higher priority things such as infestors and they don't overkill..- I think that killed zealot bombs and I have not seen protoss use zealot bombs against tanks.. Or it might be that there is so much marine usuage against toss that it doesn't really get thought about.
Anyways... /end rant
I got demoted to plat... my connection is pretty bad and drops me every once in a while. I main zerg but I play random every once in a while.
Username is
Novelty.500
I used to play brood war but my monitor is way too big and stretches the resolution to a horrible skew. I used to LAN it with my friends and we would play big game hunters.
Starcraft 2 is pretty fun but its not the same as sc1. sc1 units were more dynamic and was not based entirely on rock paper scissors.
I got demoted to plat... my connection is pretty bad and drops me every once in a while. I main zerg but I play random every once in a while.
Username is
Novelty.500
Are people here playing in EU? or am I the only EU player here :o ?
er......what's NASL's prize pool?
Day9's back to the basics video is a mandatory watch for anyone under high Diamond, IMO. I've seen Rank 1 Master players get supply blocked and such. Fundamentals are really important. His new mechanics video is dangerous to watch, IMO, as I don't agree with several things that he says.
As for anyone bronze to low diamond, I highly recommend just practicing one build per matchup continuously while working on the fundamentals -- making workers, spending money well, and scouting. You'll be advancing in no time at all. :)
It was awesome playing with sawedust and Mittens (I think they just played easy on me haha)! They're great people and very knowledgeable about the game, as well as being very helpful. I encourage others to join the geekhack channel when they're free!
Crypt, could you tell me with which points you don't agree with Day[9]?I'm generally a big fan of his, so I'm definitely not biased. I watched the #252 video on recommendation. Off of the top of my head:
I'm generally a big fan of his, so I'm definitely not biased. I watched the #252 video on recommendation. Off of the top of my head:
"don't box single units" -- even pros and master league players do this. I believe it's optimal for fast play, since 100% accuracy with the mouse shouldn't be taken for granted. Even day9 does it in this very same cast.
Location hotkey for the first base -- you already have a control group for your base, so why make things more complex?
"always box from top left" -- his reasoning is accuracy. Accuracy should be traded for speed in most situations.
"edge scrolling is slow/bad" -- he's demonstrating on default scroll speed. I believe with fast edge scroll speed, it can be used optimally in many situations rather than mini map clicking.
His section on staring at the mini map is also sorta dangerous because he doesn't show how to balance it with checking mineral/supply cap. Doing this without good habits for checking min/supply could be disastrous.
His "tapping" section could prove useful for players that don't already tap. But yea, overall, I felt like there was a lot of misinformation in the cast that also serves to make gamers feel overwhelmed with complexity when these habits shouldn't be followed at all. These tips were meant for the mainstream to improve, but when even rank 1 masters/pros don't do these things, one has to wonder.
**** day9. tastosis is where it's at.
@sawedust: We'll definitely have a rematch dude. I could be the Zerg practice buddy you try rofl-stomping strategies on. You only lost because you're on a new keyboard, not because I'm good :) Oh, and you typed that super long response above just so you could type on your new Filco, huh? Haha
LOL Day[9] would probably ROFLstomp both his brother and Artosis if they ever played.
If you are in Plat, regardless of connection, you are not in position to be able to discuss the dynamics of the game too much
I've probably seen 100+ dailies, and I've only disagreed with him on one other point aside from these videos. He's a big proponent on making exactly the # of structures that you can support with the current economy. I believe that's a mistake, as having extra production options can allow you to adjust your unit mix to do better against your opponent. In the GSTL, I believe a Protoss had 6 unit production buildings on one base. Another prime example is when a Terran has double starport vs. Protoss. He's not continually using them, but he will use both when he sees that he needs a large amount of vikings.
Say what you will about his playing ability, but as a caster for games, I think he is fabulous. His speaking abilities are refined, and he brings an enthusiasm to the games which many other casters lack. His work at MLG and Dreamhack, for example, greatly enhanced the experience. It seems obvious that he is going to follow the path of Artosis and his brother, and he'll do a damn good job at it.
"don't box single units" -- even pros and master league players do this. I believe it's optimal for fast play, since 100% accuracy with the mouse shouldn't be taken for granted. Even day9 does it in this very same cast.
Location hotkey for the first base -- you already have a control group for your base, so why make things more complex?
he clicks on the mini map then clicks on the main screen to move when clicking on the mini map to move should suffice in most situations.
"always box from top left" -- his reasoning is accuracy. Accuracy should be traded for speed in most situations.
"edge scrolling is slow/bad" -- he's demonstrating on default scroll speed. I believe with fast edge scroll speed, it can be used optimally in many situations rather than mini map clicking.
His section on staring at the mini map is also sorta dangerous because he doesn't show how to balance it with checking mineral/supply cap. Doing this without good habits for checking min/supply could be disastrous.
His "tapping" section could prove useful for players that don't already tap.
How many times have we seen Tastosis disinterested in a game because it features a player they don't like or biased against in the GSL, and proceed to harass that player and be unprofessional about it?
Just jumping in with some of my thoughts as well
I personally am trying to use single clicks more often now; not so that I will always single click my units instead of boxing, but so that I train my mouse accuracy to the point where I know I will have the mouse over the unit immediately when I need to.
I think this was more tied to the "probe click distant location to build, F2 to swap screens back without losing probe control, shift right-click on mineral patchs." I'm practicing this as well, and I will agree that it is a lot quicker and feels a lot smoother than scrolling or trying to click on the minimap. I even suggest constantly refreshing your shift+f4 (I redid my hotkeys) location to wherever you need (secondary army, new base, outside pylons).
I think the goal is tell us to strive for perfection. Unless you are that good, right clicking on the minimap is not as accurate as right clicking on the screen.
I don't agree with accuracy should be traded with speed. No matter how fast I box my units, if I can't box the right amount of units, I have failed.
A few people go with the middle mouse click scroll - I haven't gotten the hang of that and pretty much edge scroll.
I don't know if it's possible to show his eye movements, even when he's trying to simulate it with the mouse. Generally though, supply cap should be an instinct. I know when I need supply; it's not just because I look at the number up there. Even if I lose units, I only need to look once to judge where I am and then to start counting supply from my production.
Minerals should also be the same; my production cycles should keep my minerals at a minimum unless I am trying to build more buildings. It should always be an instinct with occasional glances to keep me in reality.
It definitely does - I've been teaching my friend to play SC2, and I showed him that cast and he is trying to learn how to use the tap method (slow first, then fast). Instead of randomly spamming hotkeys, the tap method is basically the same motions but with actual information.
agree with most things you said there,
Middle click drag scroll is straight up retarded, I watch tons of pro streams and no one does it, I have no idea why someone would suggest drag scroll under any circumstances - it takes your finger away from left/right click and that's extremely dangerous. I've even seen pros use the arrow key cluster to scroll, but NEVER a drag scroll.
I still use classic keyboard layout even though everyone says I'm retarded for not using Grid.I'm a SC2 noob and definitely nowhere near any kind of professional competition. I know SC2 well enough for typical multiplayer, I suppose, but most of the meta-analysis of meta-analysis in this thread confuses the hell outta me, lol.
I'm a SC2 noob and definitely nowhere near any kind of professional competition. I know SC2 well enough for typical multiplayer, I suppose, but most of the meta-analysis of meta-analysis in this thread confuses the hell outta me, lol.
Is "Grid" some kind of SC2-optimized keyboard layout? Where can I learn about it?
I'm a SC2 noob and definitely nowhere near any kind of professional competition. I know SC2 well enough for typical multiplayer, I suppose, but most of the meta-analysis of meta-analysis in this thread confuses the hell outta me, lol.
Is "Grid" some kind of SC2-optimized keyboard layout? Where can I learn about it?
I still use classic keyboard layout even though everyone says I'm retarded for not using Grid.
You are :)
A lot of pros still use the old layout, since their muscle memory is stubborn. I forced myself to change to grid layout back in WC3 days (customkeys.txt), and am glad I did. It also helps a lot for custom games, since you don't have to learn hotkeys for every tower defense games. There are zero downsides, as far as I'm concerned.
It's a ***** to change layouts, though. Not unlike switching from QWERTY to DVORAK.
I feel the need to point out that this quite an unsubstantiated logical leap -- and likely a fallacy. I agree that being a great analyst would require a level of game knowledge that included experiential nuances of the game. That does not, however, mean that one without said knowledge couldn't make a cogent point and/or argument. While I, for example, may not be able to speak to the specific timings of select circumstance-specific openings/builds/pushes with any authority, I am beyond capable of parsing recent "standard" lines of play (read: those builds and styles composing the so-called metagame) and asking why players take them as a given. Reapers are trash? Why? These are the types of questions that many of the players above Plat forget to ask once they reach that level; their play becomes reactive mimicry.
agree with most things you said there,
Middle click drag scroll is straight up retarded, I watch tons of pro streams and no one does it, I have no idea why someone would suggest drag scroll under any circumstances - it takes your finger away from left/right click and that's extremely dangerous. I've even seen pros use the arrow key cluster to scroll, but NEVER a drag scroll.
lol, I use 0 for my nexus. Anytime I need to make a probe, I have to do a nice stretch from 0 to e.
The reason I do it is because my hotkeys (and I'm forcing myself to keep to these hotkeys) are:
1,2,3 - Army/subarmies/casters
4 - Any new unit that I have to control separately for a reason/random pylon in the middle of nowhere
5 - Robotics/Stargate
6 - Research building
7,8 - Observers
9 - Probe
0 - Nexus
So even though it's inconvenient to have Nexus at 0, I feel that I might as well get used to spanning the whole keyboard.
No need to hotkey the research buildings, leave 6 for your Nexus/CC is much better.
HuK still puts his Nexus on 0 because P use to be for Probe.
Most of the things pros do are old habits from BW, not because it is the most optimal way to anything. Same why many use classic hot keys instead of Grid, and so on.
I use Drag Scroll almost exclusively. It is faster than moving to edge scroll, more precise, lets me move outside of 8 degrees of motion, and I can max it and get across smaller maps without lifting my mouse. Further, I can instantly adjust what I am looking at without having to move my cursor at all. Edge scroll is cumbersome in my opinion, and I know several other capable players that agree.
I prefer to have it hotkeyed so I can check on the progress; chronoboost really throws off my ability to judge the time correctly.
Also, it's nice to have all my research buildings on a hotkey so I don't actually have to run around the base clicking on them to get the research I want.
there is a progress bar right on the building dude
Most players beyond the "I have 2 or 3 builds I do every game" have a very solid understanding of why this or that works. They also have the mechanics to back their opinion, where as lower level players will complain about imbalance in units while they really are just reacting poorly and having poor composition.
But as a general rule of thumb, Plat players are missing something that Diamond and Master players have, and it isn't necessarily experience or raw mechanics. And thus their input on how the game works isn't as well rounded or thought out. It is similar to when Gold players attempt to argue this or that based on their experience.
lol, I use 0 for my nexus. Anytime I need to make a probe, I have to do a nice stretch from 0 to e.
The reason I do it is because my hotkeys (and I'm forcing myself to keep to these hotkeys) are:
1,2,3 - Army/subarmies/casters
4 - Any new unit that I have to control separately for a reason/random pylon in the middle of nowhere
5 - Robotics/Stargate
6 - Research building
7,8 - Observers
9 - Probe
0 - Nexus
So even though it's inconvenient to have Nexus at 0, I feel that I might as well get used to spanning the whole keyboard.
Well for one thing, if I'm used to judging the research completion by the time it took, then I wasn't looking at the building. I like to check on my research while I am not looking at my base.
Just like how I like to check on my production in my robobays/stargates while I am not looking at my base.
I mapped 7,8,9 and 0 to F2~F5, you might want to try that, reaching for those numbers is such a PITA!
And if anyone cares...
1 Main army
2 Scout/observer/secondary army
3 Robo
4 Nexus
5 Stargate
6 Forge
7-0 Whatever is needed
F1 Main base/warpgates
F2 Forward pylon/second base
F3 Forward pylon/third base
F4 Forward pylon
I also like to tab between the stargate and robo if I actually have both out.
It's different with terran though, because I definitely need my starports and factories on different hotkeys, especially because of the addons.
Broodwar had drag scroll, no one used it.
Normal scheme and grid are purely preference, Grid setup is good at times but extremely prone to mistyping.
Any thoughts about mapping Grid on the numpad?
As you aren't likely to constantly produce units out of BOTH robo and stargate, it's better to leave one hotkey out for you combating units, I have 1~4 all for army and it's not nearly enough.
I also like to tab between the stargate and robo if I actually have both out.
It's different with terran though, because I definitely need my starports and factories on different hotkeys, especially because of the addons.
I'm trying to get used to hotkeying research buildings. I think it's a more efficient way to check the progress of upgrades and not have idle research buildings.
tab works. I play terran and I dont hotkey either factory or starport, just 4 for all my rax and that's it, every other control group is all armies.
If you look closely enough, there are still plenty of unused hotkeys to be customized, like Tilde and space. I use Tilde for Patrolling and Space for jumping between bases(what backspace did)
Just a heads up! GSL starts again tonight! We start with the Code A RO32 Day 1. 2300 HST start time!
Hype! I'm ready to see HuK and the others hwaiting. I get up for work at 5am, though, so I won't be able to watch the matches until I get home. The Bo7 showmatch between Idra and Jinro starts at 5pm EST, too. So much goodness...
Are we observing the three-day rule regarding match spoilers in this thread?
can't wait to see HuK play, hope he doesn't get ownd
i cant see HuK with his shaky pvz and pvp making far into code a let alone getting a spot in code s. with sc2 getting more global better to follow idras footsteps and return to his homeland.
i cant see HuK with his shaky pvz and pvp making far into code a let alone getting a spot in code s. with sc2 getting more global better to follow idras footsteps and return to his homeland.
well from last night's game his PvZ looks rock solid (I won't get into the details of the games..) These new bigger maps are really helping players like Huk because the Koreans are so good at cheesing and all-ins with their superior micros, i think a lot of the foreigners will definitely benefit from a more macro-oriented game.
Is Kelly taking Dan's casting spot in Code A to give him a break?
Yeah, my understanding is that she will be solo casting Code A until GOM can find her a co-caster. Dan and Nick apparently requested the change -- although not Kelly specifically.
Kelly is borderline unlistenable. I don't mind her accent so much, but I can't stand when her voice gets high pitched when stuff is going on. I'll probably tune into the Korean stream tonight.
As for the last point, I think it depends on the player. Glory or money? Obviously IdrA thinks he's the greatest player in the world and thus he's going to stick with what gives him the better payoff.
I absolutely love the new map pool and wish Blizzard would get a hint as to the quality of games on a larger map. The GSTL was a prime example of how having macro maps leads to much more fun and exciting games. Most people view macro games coming down to whoever has more skill.
Cheesy strategies game-after-game may work on ladder, but no longer in a tournament setting that features macro-oriented maps.
Hi guys, nice to see all the enthusiasm about the GSL here. I watch esports to compare how I play vs. how professionals play. It kinda sucks in that regard when they aren't playing ladder maps. It almost isn't the same game that I'm playing.
As for predictions, I can't see MVP not winning the GSL again. In group A, MVP and MC are by far the favorites to make it out. I don't think Zenio can make it out of group B, really. I'm not biased towards any player to win, but I'd like to see MVP vs. MC on a ladder map. :)
i think his practice environment was a big factor, the lack of practice partners (he cant practice all matchups with ret) and with the failure of establishing a EG pro house in Korea means he simply cannot get top notch practice. he mentioned a lot of times that hes sick with ladder play.
well you still can spawn close on meta or lt in gsl. crossfire seems to be lolosus and sentry heaven. terrans will struggle on the big maps i think, esp vs protoss that can somewhat haras while getting tech tree up (last mvp game in gstl a prime example of this).
Then what about Artosis hmmm?
Artosis reacts to the GSTL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLk7ezr9ojw)
I have my gripes about Artosis as well, but if you mean to say they are anywhere near comparable in quality, then I just dunno man.
Could you imagine having Kelly and TotalBiscuit cast GSL Code A. o_O
By the way, what is your average APM?
I'm sitting at around 150-170, stays in 180-200+ during battles.
Just wondering..
lol I spend time watching the GSL in the teamliquid channel on SC2 and she's almost universally hated there. Though, there were some people that love her and want Artosis replaced for good.
I have no problems with Kelly, I think it's a good thing, it'll shake things up a bit. IMO Tasteless and Artosis were getting a bit lax in their attitude sometimes, not taking their jobs so seriously. Don't get me wrong, I like them and their good humour but when a game's playing I want commentary not lessons on guinea pigs! ;)
By the way, what is your average APM?
I'm sitting at around 150-170, stays in 180-200+ during battles.
Just wondering..
80, jumping to 200+ when needed.
Honestly, far too many people get caught up on APM. I see players with 140 average that can't macro and are just so busy spamming up their APM it just is silly. A vast majority of players I see on ladder have higher APMs than me but seem to do far less.
today's GSL code S games blew my bind, lol.
I understand where you're coming from, but unless we're at that level of play where we have near-perfect macro,a wicked game sense, and 10+ years of competitive Starcraft experience I doubt that a comparison between pros (like MVP and MC) and ourselves would make any sort of difference.I think it's not far off in SC2 for an amateur to have perfect macro. I hope within 6 months, at least all master's league players will be macroing perfectly (money low, constant workers, and buildings exactly when required.) By comparing myself to pros, I'm not saying that I'm very close to them, but in a lot of areas I'm not far from them, either. However, I'm mostly interested in their stylistic choices on the maps that I play...whether the map is completely broken or not. I understand a lot of people just want to see entertaining matches...just throwing out my preference.
I think it's not far off in SC2 for an amateur to have perfect macro. I hope within 6 months, at least all master's league players will be macroing perfectly (money low, constant workers, and buildings exactly when required.) By comparing myself to pros, I'm not saying that I'm very close to them, but in a lot of areas I'm not far from them, either. However, I'm mostly interested in their stylistic choices on the maps that I play...whether the map is completely broken or not. I understand a lot of people just want to see entertaining matches...just throwing out my preference.
Interesting use of terrain is always awesome to see...like Boxer's 3 rax block on Shakuras. I meant more generally, though...like what opener they decide to use and such. I thought MVP's TvP on XNC was very interesting vs Tester I think. He went for blueflame Hellion/drop (failed) and followed up with hellion/marauder/raven/banshee 1 base "all in" against an expanding Protoss. It's just fascinating to see what styles pros decide to use when winning "matters" with money on the line.
It's a lot different when viewing ladder replays and whatnot because people do a lot of questionable things on there for practice/fun. There's a lot of connectivity when pros are in the same situations that I'm in. I recall times when I've been in those cases and how I'd react and see what they do...great fun! In GSTL when the protoss player made Nexus first, I was just like okay cool, but no one would do that on a standard ladder map, so the rest of the game is just mostly going to be a foreign experience.
Just a random tangent -- my friend says he can beat most players on the ladder but not me because they are nowhere near as aggressive. I thought about this and figured out that those players probably are afraid of losing when they play. They won't attack if they think something might fail.
When I play, I just want to learn/improve, so I just attack repeatedly until I'm convinced that something won't work. This way (making up numbers) I might be attacking 25% at bad times, but they are missing 50% of their attack opportunities. At the same time, I'm getting feedback of when it's good to attack, and they are just staying clueless.
To be fair, Tasteless is pretty damn bad without Artosis at his side as well. I know there might be a lot of new viewers, but he points out the obvious way too much. I wonder why lilsusie isn't casting anymore, maybe I'll ask at the next TLNY meet.
To be fair, Tasteless is pretty damn bad without Artosis at his side as well. I know there might be a lot of new viewers, but he points out the obvious way too much. I wonder why lilsusie isn't casting anymore, maybe I'll ask at the next TLNY meet.
The Day[9] video that refers to APM is really helpful. Some people think they're playing fast when they're just being inefficient.
As far as APM goes, I don't even keep track. As long as I'm macroing well and keeping the pressure on my opponent I could care less if I'm at 100 APM or 300 APM.
But to be fair, anything under 60 APM once you hit the midgame and start engaging in battles mean that you're neither macroing properly nor microing your army well.
I'd agree. And it varies from race to race. When I play as Zerg, my APM floats more around 110 on average in a 15 to 20 minute game, while my Protoss will sit a bit lower.
Really, it is just important that your actions scale with the game. Often if I go to 5 bases and am playing well, my APM will be over 100 on average with P just from all the macro and making sure I don't float money by applying constant pressure and harass. But in a 10 minute game the average will be more around 60, simply not as much stuff to do.
I don't think I can watch code A anymore, this kelly chick needs to stop mumbling and talk slower, I thought Jason Lee was bad.
I think it's more of the gameplay in Code A than it is the commentating for me. Compared to Code S, I don't find much interest in these games as they aren't as exciting. It doesn't matter who's casting the games there IMO as they don't offer much entertainment value to me anyway.
Balance
GENERAL
Players can no longer hide units by setting them in a close proximity patrol (Viking flower).
PROTOSS
Mothership
-Units leaving the Mothership's Vortex are now un-targetable and immune to damage for 1.5 seconds.
High Templar
-Khaydarin Amulet upgrade (+25 starting energy) has been removed.
Zealot
-Charging Zealots will now hit fleeing targets at least once.
TERRAN
Battlecruiser
-Movement speed increased from 1.406 to 1.875.
Bunker
-Build time increased from 35 to 40 seconds.
Tech Lab
-Stimpack upgrade research time increased from 140 to 170 seconds.
ZERG
Infestor
-Health increased from 90 to 110.
-Fungal Growth
-Stun duration decreased from 8 to 4 seconds.
-Damage increased by +30% vs. armored units.
-Now fires a missile instead of being instant cast.
More interesting is the PTR patch that just game out, 1.3. The full notes can be found here (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2356436#blog) but I'll just quote the balance changes.
Honestly, it is like Blizzard wants people to not use the Mothership for anything besides late game recall busting. And for P to only go Colossi in every match up with that Amulet removal. The Charge bit on Zealots is nice, but really Blizzard, discourage opting for something besides Colossi even more?
It will be neat to see BCs more often, and the Bunker and Stim times will reduce the effectiveness of early Terran pressure a bit, but I don't see it changing the match up enough to merit the removal of Amulet, which was the late game option that P could produce to force a transition out of pure MMM with some Vikings from T.
But I really feel like Blizzard has some things mixed up in their heads. There is already almost no reason to build a Fleet Beacon now that they removed Flux Vanes, and nerfing the MS a bit doesn't make any sense.
I got everything wrong on liquibet LOL!
[edit] also, screw the patch! they took away my BBS rush, now my bunker rushes and early stim timings :(
Some comments on the proposed changes (I'm primarily a Terran player in 1v1):
Stim nerf probably won't change TvZ too much, but it's going to shift TvP to late game where P is considered stronger already.
The HT energy nerf is intended to deny the ability to instantly spawn and psi storm defend distant expos from what I can gather.
The bunker nerf is probably intended to stop 2 rax bunker rushes, but I don't think it'll change anything. I imagine it to have a stronger effect against reactive defensive bunkering.
Fungal buff -- I'd have to see it in action. Naturally, it forces more tank use, which mutas are good against. But, gas supply will be lighter after production of infestors, so I'd have to see how it plays out.
The Vortex nerf is because AOE spells are doing more damage than intended since units exiting Vortex ignore collision and clump up too much (archon toilet). I think the mothership still has plenty of use, and it's not even a game balancing unit (as in, most games end without a mothership being created.) This may change if/when larger maps are played, though.
As much as I want to jump in on the Brotoss hate on not having the extra energy available from Khydarian Amulet, I think it's a move where it forces the Toss player to make an early decision in going HT in order for Storm to be useful. As a Protoss player myself I am quite disappointed in that decision, but I somewhat see the reasoning behind it. Just gonna have to make more Colossi and Phoenix now.
Not once have I ever built a Fleet Beacon. Ever.
Going for MKP and Inca here. MKP has been such a powerful player over all of the GSL seasons and without MVP and Nestea to deal with (leaving only oGsMC) the door is wide open for him to win his first GSL.
Only choosing Inca because he's a Brotoss :P
ownd.
The up/down matches this season is gonna be like Code S semifinals, lmao.
Sanzenith has been my favorite player since the first time I saw him lose.
Manzenith fighting!
http://i.imgur.com/5IeQG.jpg
Looks like IdrA made the right decision to leave Korea and join the foreign scene, the quality of competition is much lower. Should lead to easier paydays for the Gracken.
definitely, but one less foreigner in GSL :(
seriously though, the foreigner SC2 is going nowhere(just like bw), IEM invited the best European pros out there, i mean, tarson, morrow and whitera, plus qxc and idra, that's a westerner dream team right there, and guess what, STace roflstomped through the group 10-0. Ten-****ing-zero?
Squirtle is playing tomorrow and I expect nothing but domination just like ST ace.
Squirtle is out it seems, shame really as I liked his play. Then again, most of the players are interesting, so I'm excited to see how this turns out.
I bet on the same guys sawed, though I only voted HuK cause he's a foreigner.
To prevent spoilers, we usually refrain from posting results until three days after. Thing is, most people care more about the GSL than the IEM, so maybe we can talk about it here freely. Up to everyone else yet.
Qxc hasn't gotten much practice since his move to Spain. There's an IEM replay pack up somewhere. I watched a few of them...no impressive Terrans for me to study, though. :P
Oh, sorry about that. I'm used to discuss SC2 wit some of my friends, so spoilers etc. has never been an issue. I'll keep that in mind from now on.
Also, did Blizz and KeSPA kiss and make up yet? I heard KeSPA pulled a lot of good Korean teams from all tournaments until they reached an agreement with Blizz about tournament fees and stuff. Not sure what the status on that is now.
I read a lot about the KeSPA vs Blizz when it all started, apparently KeSPA didn't like Blizz charging for tournaments with rewards above a certain amount, so they pulled all the teams they control out of any official tournaments. Or at least that's what I got out of it.
On a side note; Blizz said that with SC2 the online experience would be so smooth and good you would never ever need LAN.
10-15 minutes or so ago one of the players disconnected in the GSL. Not the first time that's happened, there were connection problems during one of the IEM tournaments as well. I can't really say whether or not it's Blizzard's fault, but it looks sort of bad.
WCG might not have any Blizz games either due to the issues with KeSPA.
KeSPA and Blizzard are both jerks. Neither should have a monopoly on broadcasting Starcraft gaming, it just hurts the growth of the scene.
Man I've been waking up late and only being able to catch the GSL an hour into it...
Something occurred to me today though... Kelly's the only person there who doesn't go by a handle name. In fact she's really the ONLY face in starcraft 2 who isn't using a handle...
Any ideas for what a good handle might be?
Squirtle is out it seems, shame really as I liked his play. Then again, most of the players are interesting, so I'm excited to see how this turns out.
I would really like to see more BW play, I'm not too good at BW but it is so fun to watch with good casters.
Also; this is an interesting read (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=142288).
Edit: This is also relevant (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895).
Man I've been waking up late and only being able to catch the GSL an hour into it...
Something occurred to me today though... Kelly's the only person there who doesn't go by a handle name. In fact she's really the ONLY face in starcraft 2 who isn't using a handle...
Any ideas for what a good handle might be?
didn't even know Moon is at the IEM, another 5-0 sweep, lol, fail europeans.
Squirtle is having a bit of a downfall recently, he'll be back though.
hehehe, a good number of those troll names are me :) I even made a guide on teamliquid about how to get your question asked in order to troll GOMtv forums last year.
Are you poopfeast420?
Will you sign my keyboard?
I found this site while looking for keyboards for sc2. Bought my first filco in the classifieds and then the second today (on amazon). Great site.
Can add me to the sc2 list: Kelsin.935
It is nice to live in a strange time zone, since GSL live is on when I wake up in the morning.
IEM Quarterfinals going on as well!
(But who's going to watch that right now when you have the best players in the world fighting on GSL?)
2230 HST
EG.IdrA (Z) vs ST.Squirtle (P)
0045 HST
FXOmOOnGLaDe (Z) vs. mouz.Morrow (Z)
Both matches are best of five.
IEM is officially ruined by the koreans, all 3 making to the top 4 lol.
It's ridiculous how good Korean players are.
How's the Filco treating you in SC2, sawedust?
I've also noticed that Koreans are more prone to cheese tactics compared to Euro players, I might be wrong though as I don't have time to watch all the tournaments etc.
But to me it seems like a Korean BO3 is like this; 1. game is safe, next two cheese. Rarely see European players go stuff like one base Roach.
I can see the reasoning behind it, it's pretty solid actually.
I'm just speculating what impact it has on the difference between EU and Korea. Seems like the fact that they take StarCraft dead serious has a lot to say, I think someone said that to be able to compete with Koreans you had to be there. Which is probably part of the reason why IdrA was able to compete with them, think he moved back to the states recently though.
I'd say that if European players, and foreigners in general, wanted to raise themselves up to Korean level they need things like proper team with player housing where all the players either live together or at least spend a lot of time together practicing.
Small problem though, as far as I know that isn't going to work out financially in the long run. If there were a huge SC2 fanbase and dedicated TV channels we probably could, but it's not a big enough deal for that to become a reality as it is now.
Today's Code A was kinda boring, expected better games from TSL Rain :(
TSL_Rain is really flopping as of late, even at cheese...
Game 2 of MC vs. HongUniden is one that will forever change how the Starcraft world views PvP.
Nuff said.
as far as I see it's still just bunch of 4 gates...
At least it was exciting for once! Had to question the loser's thinking on that one, he had an easy win. If the loser wanted to go for the win, he should have went double assimilator instead of one pylon. :confused:
if you are talking about the Xel naga cavern's game, HongUn had 350 minerals and a probe left after his base was wiped out, so he could've warped bunch of stuff everywhere on the map, assimilator being the best choice of course. He probably panicked.
Cheering for San due to the whole underdog story that he has. Cheering for Lyn in the other game as I don't want to see a potential PvP final :(
I competed in the preliminaries of Season 3/4. I miss Korea.
Oh Uniden. I remember that Daily and the subsequent lawl-fest I had watching that. I agree that we need more Funday Mondays.
I often wonder if Uniden is even aware of his popularity due to that game.
Yeah, it is a crazy turn around. Though I am seeing more sloppiness in his play, at least at points last night.
Yes, we know. Along with creating the creepiest music video ever.
sadzenith is going to win this gsl.
Any body hear about blizzard splitting the ladder for the next installment? Pretty lame IMO.
Splitting the ladder? So, like people with the expansion are on a different ladder than people without? I guess that makes sense if they introduce new units to multiplayer or something.
Don't they have to split the ladder out of necessity? Besides, any serious players are going to buy the expansions.
Yeah, read about that and I can't see any good reason for it.
Can't say I like the direction Blizzard is taking with SC2.
They should split the ladder. There will be new units.
They should NOT, however, try to convince me that adding some models and triggered maps means a "new game" worthy of "new game" price.
add me to the list - strum4h. I would love to play some team games with you guys. I am probably going to be really rusty though. I have a bonus pool of like 4k lol.
I really think they need to stop putting people in Masters before they play 100 games, but that might just be me.How come?
TSL 3 Ro32 ended today, and it was a blast. On IDra vs Cruncher, I will only say :)
We need a spoiler tag...
TSL 3 Ro32 ended today, and it was a blast. On IDra vs Cruncher, I will only say :)If you're on TL, take a look at the liquibet stats for that game.
We need a spoiler tag...
If you're on TL, take a look at the liquibet stats for that game.
How does one see liquibets for past games? TL's busy interface mystifies me sometimes.Yeah, I'm new to it as well. For each game, there's an icon on the left side that sorta looks like a "comments" button. If you click it, you'll see the vote distribution as well as comments about the match.
How come?
After my 8th 1v1, I already started getting matched up against masters. If you're already ranked in other leagues, I believe they'll use MMR from those leagues for your first placement matches. I got matched up against a diamond in my first 1v1. If I'm already winning consistently against masters, 100 games seems overkill. Personally, I think if someone goes > 50% against masters over 30-40 games, that's reliable enough for me.
I dunno. I have found many players in Masters that just have 1 very aggressive build or some cheese that works for them. Perhaps I think Masters should just be more selective even, I dunno. Just tired of seeing 1 base for 15 minutes and crap like that.I think it's the nature of the game and the probabilistic chance of cheese/all ins working and not the number of games. Just take a look at CombatEX's profile. He's one of the top grandmasters, and he cheeses/all ins every game that I've seen.
brandon.1823
pretty much still a noob at the game. But its getting to be the small things. right now im not on much with school and work but that should all change pretty soon. :)
Yeah, same.
Also, your handle is the first I have seen with more than 3 numbers. Congrats. :tongue:
i think that they number you based on how many people are out there with the same name and the order that you pick that name. I am probably wrong, but it's just a theory after all. :P
Bisu > Flash
As a new member browsing the forums on Geekhack, I noticed this thread, which I approve of very much! :) I'm a huge Starcraft 2 fan and play quite often. I'm a Diamond terran player hopefully getting masters league soon! Can play the two other races to diamond level aswell - maybe not as crisp though!
If anyone would like to practice or even needs help with builds I'd be happy to help you try and get out of lower leagues.
Shako.512 is my ID.
@.XL forgot I ment to mention that I'm on EU Servers, I'm guessing your NA since your in Wa D.C?:(
Yup! I was hoping sj.Artosis was going to do better! Totally surprised with the Kikwikaki outcome, thought he'd smash his opponents. What league are you in .XL?
wow played the game on low game looks like krappppppppppppp
gotta get my rig fixed ASAP
From what I understand a lot of pros use low settings because it's easier to detect cloaked and burrowed units
From what I understand a lot of pros use low settings because it's easier to detect cloaked and burrowed units
Yeah, same.
Also, your handle is the first I have seen with more than 3 numbers. Congrats. :tongue:
Krull.805
Like the above poster i cant stand the game on anything higher than low settings. I don't know why but i don't play as well on ultra. But i will admit marines portraits are catastrophically ugly on low.
Hey everyone, I'm new to geekhack having just picked up my first mechanical keyboard a few weeks ago.
I'm currently a top 5 diamond player trying to get into master's, if anyone wants some help getting out of the lower leagues I'm willing to see what I can do :). skyblue.775 or PM me.
Also, if you want to be added to the list, I need your character code.
Team games mean almost nothing. Even if your partner is Grandmasters. Why no 1v1? It would be safe to assume you aren't terrible if you are connected with Liquid and oGs players... I just find it odd I guess, since you can get Masters in team games by proxy 2 rax/gate/7 pool every game.
Also, if you want to be added to the list, I need your character code.
I've updated the main list. Seems a lot of people have shown up with an interest in keyboards and SC2 from TL in the past month or so. I'll probably update the first post with links to the key threads, though the only active one is probably the TL key since the Group 3 order is sold out now.
Team games mean almost nothing. Even if your partner is Grandmasters. Why no 1v1? It would be safe to assume you aren't terrible if you are connected with Liquid and oGs players... I just find it odd I guess, since you can get Masters in team games by proxy 2 rax/gate/7 pool every game.
Also, if you want to be added to the list, I need your character code.
I've updated the main list. Seems a lot of people have shown up with an interest in keyboards and SC2 from TL in the past month or so. I'll probably update the first post with links to the key threads, though the only active one is probably the TL key since the Group 3 order is sold out now.
just because u can get "INTO" masters doesn't mean you are good. Silver/Gold players cannot macro anywhere near the level of Mid Diamond+.
Team games mean nothing? Tell that to ariesto and cubert
That is my point, poor 1v1 players can get very easily into Masters. You can argue about it all you want but the number of "masters" 2v2 teams and crap I've seen that are gold or so 1v1 is pretty impressive.
As for money being on the line, there is only one tournament I am aware of using team games, and majority of the matches and importance is on 1v1. There is a reason high level team play never caught on in BW, and it isn't even just the fact the game is balanced around 1v1 and not team games. A great deal of the community feels the same way.
Honestly, if you are good, go play the 30 games or so it would take to get into Masters 1v1. Otherwise, claiming to be high masters in team games holds no value if you have zero 1v1 games played.
Gold player 1v1 (http://sc2ranks.com/us/1813368/InitialD), Masters 2v2, Masters 4v4 (92%) win rate
Bronze 1v1 player (http://sc2ranks.com/us/2315214/Anko), Masters 2v2, 4v4.
And this was only with 2 minutes effort.
I'll just make my view clear - boasting about team game win rates is on par with boasting about being an Honors student at an alternative high school
Honestly, why do you care?
I agree with you.
I thought I'd share my user name / character code so I can play with some fellow geekhack.org member's with no intention of "boasting" or "bragging" and I get harassed...
Sorry, I just tend to see "hello" followed by a win percent as a bit of boasting.
Vitamin.613
Team game means nothing eh. I'm watching SeleCT and Optizero climb 2v2 vs #2 2v2 global team (14-3 score) at the moment right now as we speak. There has been ROOT vs EG 2v2 clan wars. Tomorrow will be Dignitas clan wars...
So apparently team games mean nothing but you see top15 grand master players starting to play team games more often... interesting.
I planned on fully committing 1v1s in season2 but I don't have much time to play anymore as you can see my total games played for season2.
I don't cheese or proxy / early pool fyi.
Also, a lot of solo players using production tab hack / drop hack ( PiLLage 69-0 grand master).
That's how they got to masters level.
Your avatar dude died today.
Rather than individually add people to friends list where it's easy to lose track of who is who, wouldn't it be better to designate a GeekHack chat channel and use that?
Look what I found!
http://classic.battle.net/window.shtml
So I tried playing with Grid layout as Toss... wow it's so weird. I was like WHY ISN'T MY A MOVE WORKING?!?!?
Grit your teeth and learn it. You'll thank yourself later :)
Grit your teeth and learn it. You'll thank yourself later :)
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I keep forgetting to join the channel when I'm playing on NA. I'll have to try remember to login and save the channel even if I don't play anything later.
Grit your teeth and learn it. You'll thank yourself later :)
Hey if you've never played Starcraft 1 or 2, is it pointless to join at this point? Does SC2 come with a tutorial for people brand new to the game?
Is there a way for you tell me how many brand new/inexperienced people there are on the game finder?
BTW: Are you put at a disadvantage at all if you have a TKL keyboard?
Hey if you've never played Starcraft 1 or 2, is it pointless to join at this point? Does SC2 come with a tutorial for people brand new to the game?
Is there a way for you tell me how many brand new/inexperienced people there are on the game finder?
BTW: Are you put at a disadvantage at all if you have a TKL keyboard?
Hey if you've never played Starcraft 1 or 2, is it pointless to join at this point? Does SC2 come with a tutorial for people brand new to the game?
Is there a way for you tell me how many brand new/inexperienced people there are on the game finder?
BTW: Are you put at a disadvantage at all if you have a TKL keyboard?
I would NOT play the practice games. Play the comp a couple of times, if you want, but the practice games in multiplayer are slowed WAAAY down and have different maps and should do nothing but confuse in the end.
At least I know RiGs reads my posts.
I wonder if Hungarians get Ducky puns?
Is their any reason why you couldn't play SC2 with a KBC Poker?
I play with a KBC poker and I love it!
so do we actually meet in the "GeekHack" channel? or is it two words?
is it #geekhack? or just geekhack, i ahve seen nasus on there but like no one else, i got thrown back to diamond for having 1k bonus pool at the end of season 2, dont worry i'm going to play when i ahve time coming up >.> that star will be mine again!
Played my placement match, won but stayed in gold league. Played another game against a gold leaguer who was slightly favored and won.
Word of advice to those in the lower leagues who want to advance, and feel that they're better than they're ranked due to previous RTS experience: just play off one base and roll all the ladder kiddies left and right. A lot of my losses (besides very early on due to simply not understanding the units and abilities of this game) prior to taking my break from StarCraft were due to letting people tech up/macro up for free because I didn't want to get a cheap win.
Screw that.
Punish all the people who blindly follow econ/tech builds that they read off the internet with early pressure and watch them fall apart and ragequit. A lot of people play really greedy openings that you'd be a fool not to take advantage of. In the lower leagues, just rush rush rush everyone, because if they aren't able to scout a rush and properly adjust their build, they shouldn't be in any league above silver, so don't feel bad.
[edit]besides, these crappy blizzard maps practically beg you to rush, so just keep doing it until blizzard realizes the mistake they made and releases more KeSPA style maps.
hitting timing windows isn't important if you macro well... thats the point, if you have better macro than your opponent, even if they are greedy in opening if your macro is better you will still win. you are confusing hitting timing attacks with making units, the two need to go together... making units and workers is important no matter what level you are at, all i'm saying is that at the less than platinum level you really shouldn't have a build where you cut workers.
you can keep your opinions speakeasy, i don't need to defend myself because i'm already in the "higher" leagues.
Out of curiosity I've noticed that the minimum system requirements have Windows XP while in the "recommended" specs its absent.
Why would XP get eliminated from the recommended specs?
Out of curiosity I've noticed that the minimum system requirements have Windows XP while in the "recommended" specs its absent.
Why would XP get eliminated from the recommended specs?
Used to be master toss in NA and no time to play anymore since starting selling keyboard.
May be back to SC2 later and start laddering again When BLZ fix toss!
so far in MLG it seems like Koreans have taken Terran to the next level. Damn! Go ZERG!
Do you guys think it's possible for someone to be truly great at SC using a trackball? I really enjoy my trackball but sometimes there is some "doubt" that it would handicap a player somehow.
I wonder if any of the popular professional StarCraft players use a trackball. I am a high gold level Protoss here. Hopefully I will be in Platinum soon.
Any HHKB Pro 2 users that play SC2? I'm not concerned about the F-keys so much, but just curious how the topre handles spamming keys, sd sd sd etc double tapping. General SC2 stuff. Thanks!
Any HHKB Pro 2 users that play SC2? I'm not concerned about the F-keys so much, but just curious how the topre handles spamming keys, sd sd sd etc double tapping. General SC2 stuff. Thanks!
Well no, neastea is a god because he's unbelievably smart. Scouting is just part of his skillset. Other people who scout just as much are still nowhere near his cerebral play. The other parts that you said is just zerg basics.
Yeah, he's smart, he knows how to interpret his scouting which is what a lot of other people lack, but without scouting he wouldn't be able to win so I'd still argue he's one of the best players to check out for seeing how. Because if you can spend some time figuring out what he notices just from seeing certain stuff then you should be able to apply it to some extent in the game.
Dittoing above about not seeing this earlier.You've played on the Korean server and played their Platinums? Apparently they're equal to NA/EU's Diamond league.
I play Terran on NA as Softdrink, with the weird ID code thingy as 505. I'm actually pretty good in terms of mechanics and practical knowledge, but I have almost no real game experience because I've been so busy with school. As in, I haven't played since late season one. At all.
I'm really looking to find people to play custom games with before I head back into the ladder. I *am* in bronze league (or was back when I was ranked), but have been able to keep pace with Korean platinum players before-- the bronze placing was really just due to inexperience, which remains my real problem.
You've played on the Korean server and played their Platinums? Apparently they're equal to NA/EU's Diamond league.
Maybe he just didn't want to bring a heavy and expensive keyboard to overseas while he still competes in the GSTL in Korea. He's doing up n down matches this season too right?
Back when I last played him (months ago), it was in Season one when you could see win/loss ratio. His was something like 200 to 10, and he was flying up through the ranks. I played a long series of custom games with him, at his request, after being paired up on a random 1v1 on Xel'Naga.
if you go 200-10 you do not get promoted, the mmr needs to settle before you can get promoted, there was a time during early season 1 or the beta (i forget) when they just introduced diamond, and i was in platinum with a like 85% win rate, could not get promoted, i literally threw 5 games (join and leave instantly) to drop my mmr to get promoted to where i belonged, i then proceeded to not play.
DongRaeGu was playing with a Razer BlackWidow during last weekends MLG event in Raleigh. He was using the macro keys on the side quite a lot, and without the keycaps!
I love DRG. I am also curious to what macro binds he uses. It's funny that he took off the keycaps, maybe have the feel of a standard keyboard, but he still uses the macro keys.
Plat Protoss here.
Username: nolliepoper
Char Code: 830
Ouch. I like idra. Yeah, he's whiny and arrogant and defeatist, and I wonder how much he actually enjoys the game. But I like that he speaks his mind, and that he can usually back up his analysis with real examples. Obviously I don't know the guy, but I feel like if he took three months off or something and then returned fresh, it would ultimately do him a lot of good.
I had this conversation with some coworkers a few weeks ago. My conclusion is that Idra feels that, given adequate game knowledge, the player with the better mechanics "deserves" to win. Not just that they usually will win -- they deserve to win. Thus players that win with inferior mechanics have stolen something, or are an indication that something in the game is broken. And of course he knows that he himself has the best mechanics among foreigners (which may be true). This narrow view of the game feeds and justifies his contempt for other players, and causes him to get frustrated at the perceived futility of trying to win in desperate situations.
What the PiaNoppoo looks like after IPL3, IEM and MLG Providence:
...
Of course, all the beating it's been taking during traveling is now giving me issues with the USB cable :( Oh well, guess I have an excuse to buy another mech if I retire this one :)
Dude you can't post that without listing who signed it! All I can make out for sure is MMA, DeMuslim, Ret, MKP, and The Emperor himself...
Ret, Huk, Idra, MKP, MMA, DRG, DeMuslim, MC, KawaiiRice and BoxeR. Met a ton of other players but alas, no more room on my keyboard (that's the trouble with tenkeyless) :( I actually gave up on getting signatures after the bottom was filled up, but I ran into BoxeR in one of those rare moments where he was alone out and in the open so I couldn't NOT get his signature :P
Played a game against Nestea, both players were already eliminated so Naniwa worker rushed, got all of his probes killed and GG'd.
it was group stage and it was the last game of their group with them both having 0-3 record. so neither of them was able to advance anymore.
so naniwa didn't see the sense to play that match out and a clicked his workers to nesteas base.
he didn't even touch the keyboard i think and no micro. basically he threw the game
he also looks like enton imho :D
ehm psyduck that is in english :D
That was seriously the best GSL Finals in its entire history.
More people need to join the geekhack Channel.
$10 for just those finals, maybe. $10 for those finals and the vods for the group stages and the rest, ya.
Personally though, I'm probably just going to get the vods through the promo they have where if you pay premium for a year they give you blizzcup for free.
P.S. Even Idra thinks these finals are the best ever.
I want to join the club!
I first found geekhack when I was in search for new keyboard (old one drowned in beer). I was sad because I could not play starcraft anymore but GH cheered me up.
P.S. dimoniy.307.
Wow, I haven't been ITT in quite some time! Been focusing primarily on new married life (with future SC3 progamer!), work, and a bit of StarCraft here and there.
Anyone else have a KR account? I got mine a few weeks back and am loving the experience I'm having over there. Definitely a lot harder (only in Platinum league there as opposed to Diamond in NA) but I'm improving quite a bit. Learning a lot of stuff from reviewing my gameplay and analyzing with SC2Gears.
Has there been an updated list of GeekHack SC2 players yet? I noticed OP hasn't been updated in quite some time.
I don't play but i am an avid spectator and watch everything i can get my hands on. Viewing Dreamhack/IPL3/MLG on a projector at home with some mates and a few beers is hugely entertaining. The last SOTG episode of the year was the most hilarious game related thing ive ever seen!
I don't play but i am an avid spectator and watch everything i can get my hands on. Viewing Dreamhack/IPL3/MLG on a projector at home with some mates and a few beers is hugely entertaining. The last SOTG episode of the year was the most hilarious game related thing ive ever seen!
I don't play but i am an avid spectator and watch everything i can get my hands on. Viewing Dreamhack/IPL3/MLG on a projector at home with some mates and a few beers is hugely entertaining. The last SOTG episode of the year was the most hilarious game related thing ive ever seen!
I'm Silver NA right now. New years resolution: Masters NA by the end of the year. Wish me luck.
I'm Silver NA right now. New years resolution: Masters NA by the end of the year. Wish me luck.
I started a Division for us on SC2Ranks! so we can keep an eye on how everyone's doing! maybe a little motivation? Just find yourself on the site (or on blizzard) and paste the url in!
http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/11594/geekhack/ (http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/11594/geekhack/)
I like this idea, is there a way to contact other members of the group?
Well if we're going to start telling SC2 jokes...
Why don't infestors make good writers?
Because they can't handle feedback.
During the summer while i was working, I had barely anything to do at my job, so I browsed TL all day. Looked at the whole joke thread there ><. But I haven't heard yours before.
Those suits look reaaaaally cheesy. They should go back to the blazer + Handsome Nerd shirt look.
Have you read the ramen thread? That thread changed my life.
During the summer while i was working, I had barely anything to do at my job, so I browsed TL all day. Looked at the whole joke thread there ><. But I haven't heard yours before.
hey hashbaz could you plz post a link to the ramen thread on TL.net? my life needs a change ;)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=30466
54 pages of ramen variations and discussion. The most life-changing thing was the notion of poaching an egg with the noodles while they cook. So good. Fancy ramen is now a GSL finals tradition. :)
geeklicious!
thanks alot, cant wait to try some variations :)
just getting into using mutas finally, it's benefiting my play about 500%, loving it!
Hmm Looks liek stuff I already do. Meh, Prob cos I'm asian.
Ditto.
Also, anyone think that the english casters on GSL would look much better wearing the suits that the korean casters wear? (It's the beige coloured suit that you occasionally see when they switch to the korean casters for a moment before switching to the english ones)
The T-Shirt over Blazer had that cool nerd look, but I think GOM wants a more sportscaster look, and I don't believe any sportscasters wear anything less than at least a suit and a dress shirt.
What they have right now though looks way too formal.
my user is " okaygold " with 731 as my character code! I main Zerg and will be forever gold league. It started out as a joke with my name as I raised up through bronze and silver, but seems to be a bit of a curse now, oh well!
Went to MLG providence just a couple months back and got a =TON= of autographs, really happy, can't wait to get my newly painted keyboard some names on it!
running a 7G with keycaps built for zerg my S key has a groove on it so I use it as a home. pic related
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I started a Division for us on SC2Ranks! so we can keep an eye on how everyone's doing! maybe a little motivation? Just find yourself on the site (or on blizzard) and paste the url in!
http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/11594/geekhack/
Well, how you do in Starcraft not a very good indicator of how you'll do in RL.
tYcLief.133 (NA) here. Plat/diamond Zerg. Great with micro, working on my macro. Average around 100-150 apm depending on the game.
Currently use a Razer Lycosa and my new Revolution MX (old was an MX 1100). The Lycosa sucks though, and my new keyboard (Ducky 9008 G2, browns) should arrive today; can't wait. That should definitely help.
Someone needs to calm my rage...Lost 5/5 games against favoured players. Not just those 10/11 points loss favoured, but the good old 1-2 point lost ones. Am I meant to try?
I slammed my desk and then BSOD. ==''
I'm pretty sure if you win those games, you'll have a much better chance of being promoted.
Welcome to Geekhack fellow infested one.
I never liked the Lycosa... = D Enjoy your new ducky
This Lycosa really did suck. The Ducky ended up arriving a day late because FedEx had some trouble, but whatever! I love this keyboard so much already, my wpm already went from 100 to 120 and I'm getting better by the minute.
Ahahaha.
Once you go mech you never go back.
Typing on clouds of boobs~~~...wat.
Tru dat.
Plus I can switch the keycaps to help learn dvorak.
...wat.
Blank keycaps ftw. You shouodn't ever have to look down on your keyboard unless its shift + num. Those symbols are so hard to remember.
The clouds of boobs thing is a figure of speech from this forum == something about Reds/Topres. ><
Nice to see a healthy interest in SC2 here. :D I'm a gold level terran but I haven't played Season 6 yet. I'm more macro oriented in the sense that most of my wins come from me outmacroing my opponent then running him over in one attack with superior unit comp and upgrades. Micro, mechanics, decision making, and crisis management all are far behind though. :P Right now I'm stuck in another phase where I'm having trouble finding motivation to ladder so now all I do is watch the pros play lol. Anyone here one of those people that LOVE LOVE LOVE to watch SC2 but have never played a single game?
Nice to see a healthy interest in SC2 here. :D I'm a gold level terran but I haven't played Season 6 yet. I'm more macro oriented in the sense that most of my wins come from me outmacroing my opponent then running him over in one attack with superior unit comp and upgrades. Micro, mechanics, decision making, and crisis management all are far behind though. :P Right now I'm stuck in another phase where I'm having trouble finding motivation to ladder so now all I do is watch the pros play lol. Anyone here one of those people that LOVE LOVE LOVE to watch SC2 but have never played a single game?
Thats how all games should be up till bout plat...solid mechanics + Amove = win
Oh no, I know what you mean and agree, I just hate seeing MMM a move being used in plat, and even gold.
Dayum shame, Jimmy.
I play diamonds now, but yeah, back then MMM was insane.
Still is of course, if you don't know how to counter (read: fungal).
First game played with new keyboard: 30 minute macro game, ended up taking the win! ZvZ on Metalopolis, hell yeah.
Banelings. HA. I'd love to see a Zerg try to break my immortal mech army. Try baneling busting me with 14+ siege with +2/+1. Anyway, I have to disagree on the whole mechanics + a move = win in platinium league. I've played platinum league and I haven't really found any standard builds. Always see stupid builds like 2 base ONLY MUTALISK and they just camp my production with 36+ mutas. I try to practice standard builds and stuff I see from pros but that stuff usually doesn't work if say a toss goes immortal/zealot/void ray/dark templar or some other weird ass unit comp.
Banelings are good, unless they're getting medivacs and simply lift + scan burrowed ones.
Rarely do banelings work for me, infestors always do the trick.
EDIT: I ended up winning that game not with good fungals, but with superior upgrades, micro, and placement. It really came down to just mass roach vs mass roach, and while fungals can be good, they're pretty damn ineffective.
I also had five bases when he only had three, so as my roaches died, I was able to spam more and get them to the fight before my army fully died; "the 300 zerg push".
Errrr I changed my name to Bangarang... so if you see that in the Geekhack room that is me.
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That is a solid username. I've used "rufio" before.
Platinum is about going for solid macro, but you need to know what to build. Its pointless if you're building the wrong units. Platinum I say, is still a point where solid macro is more key that the cute little micro you do with units. Obviously its different from the lower leagues. They key I think round the plat level (at least for me) it was picking the right units and solid macro. (for zerg this whole thing is a bit different because we're deciding between army vs economy). Say he went only mutas. make like 4 thors. One at each base and one to push out and marine tank. What can mutalisk do? Nothing. Its key to know what you're opponent's plan/build/units are and play accordingly. But I reckon if you macroed solidly enough and made marines only, you'd win.
Fungals used to be sooo good. Especially because terrans didn't know how to deal with it. Now I feel like, I rather skip infestors until I had my broodlords. I was huge fan of Destiny's Infestor style and i kept playing it vs toss and vs terran and it paid out well for me. Then everyone learned how to spread and no I'm back with ling bane muta, and I hate playing that...I've been trying the roach vs terran style, not working out... = /
Wanna know why I don't make 4 thors? Because by the time the mutas hit, even with a standard build that goes for Thors in unit comp, I won't have the thors out in time. And any idiot can magic box mutas and with 36 mutas, it doesn't matter how many Thors I have. Mobility will win in the end. Sure I can keep my whole army together in base but then I lose map control. The key problem I think I have is that I try to do standard builds that work in Masters and up but since my opponents (usually upper gold to the very bottom of platinum) have such odd builds, timings, and transitions. I'd have to dedicate everything to scouting.
Let's say I'm playing vs. Zerg and he goes hatch first. What' the appropriate response? Reactor hellions, duh. I do normal damage with the hellions, do scouting, gain some map control, pressure his 3rd, etc. Then all of a sudden he gets brood lords before there should even be brood lords on the field. I'm talking about people that have their timings so off and use such funky builds it could take out a pro unaware just because it's mechanically impossible at that time to win. Or say against protoss. The right units to build are usually marine/marauder/medivac/ghost and maybe some vikings thrown in if he has colossi. What do I do against someone that gets a little bit of everything. Zealot/stalker/dt/void ray. Weird unit comps like that. It's just impossible to prepare for EVERYTHING if I'm trying to play standard (save orbital energy for scans instead of mules? and let my macro slip? no thanks, I'm not counting on the slight possibility of DTs at SOME point on the game to determine whether or not I should drop mules).
How is having your barracks and factories on hotkeys different than hatcheries on hotkeys? I would say it is easier for T and Z to macro during a battle than P, since P has to find a powered area to warp in at.
So I'm top 20 in diamond on 2 accounts but I see a GLARING issue with my play, My macro is falling off during certain attacks, and I'm not toss so I can't just warp in round instantly or have a millino units pop. I know its easy to say build scvs and build units while micro but when i'm in the thick thick of it I drop off bad. Any tips?
Which keycaps do pro players remove to play awesomish?
Proofs pls.
vurt.276 - Pimp League [Gold/Plat] Protoss/Zerg, depending what I feel like playing. Zerg macro EZ. Protoss A Move army EZ. Help me pick a race!!
But lets get real here...
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But Terran sucks.
tbh Terran isn't fun to play for me. I don't like to micro bio/manage tanks/manage drops. I prefer to warp in mass zealots/archons and A-move to victory.
Terran is hard at high levels, but that isn't the reason I dislike the race. It's a playstyle/mechanics thing. I really like Zerg mechanics, and how the race works and relies so much on scouting and reactionary play. Protoss is a race where you have the ability to control game flow a bit more, and unit composition really matters late game, which I also enjoy quite a bit. I have definitely played more Protoss games and I'm probably more comfortable with Protoss builds. Additionally, it's so easy to die as Zerg early game to timings if you don't prepare properly. But if my opponent doesn't ever attack and lets me take 3-4 base with 80 drones...it's GG.
Edit: There is nothing easier than all-inning on any race, but I don't like to play cheesy styles. I prefer straight up games/macro styles.
10 medivacs+ makes a ball of marines neigh invulnerable
neigh
is there an official geek hack channel I can join? I was wondering where you guys hide on battle.net
Are their quite a bit of noobs that are available to play on SC2 or am I going to get my butt handed to me in just about any game I play?
I'm a noob myself; I still have to build a new computer, acquire a new monitor, swap out my trackball for a mouse; etc... starting at ground zero.
Edit: any issues playing SC2 with a Noppoo Choc Mini?
Hi guys!
I've been playing SC2 for a year now. It is my first RTS. I started playing as protoss and then switched to zerg and never regreted it. I'm a low Diamond level zerg and a platinum level protoss.
ID: Omnipotent.692 (Zerg)
Also, if you're new and looking to improve, I can't recommend enough FilterSC on youtube and TheJakatak method and stream. Both those guys are really good and helpful. Opened my eyes to a whole new level of benchmarking my play.
Also, if you're new and looking to improve, I can't recommend enough FilterSC on youtube and TheJakatak method and stream. Both those guys are really good and helpful. Opened my eyes to a whole new level of benchmarking my play.
will def look into this. I'm rather new to RTS genre and have started tinkering with the mechanics and all that. I'm wondering is people actually modify their keybinds from what the default is though.
:o AHHHHHHH!!! yayayayay!!!! ;D :D ;D :P ;D ;D
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After months and months of working, I finally got placed into diamond!! Now I get to have my wife buy me that annoying Jinx t-shirt!!
aaaaahhhh... KK having some scotch!!! Screw it if it's only 5:30.
:o AHHHHHHH!!! yayayayay!!!! ;D :D ;D :P ;D ;D
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After months and months of working, I finally got placed into diamond!! Now I get to have my wife buy me that annoying Jinx t-shirt!!
aaaaahhhh... KK having some scotch!!! Screw it if it's only 5:30.
:o AHHHHHHH!!! yayayayay!!!! ;D :D ;D :P ;D ;D
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After months and months of working, I finally got placed into diamond!! Now I get to have my wife buy me that annoying Jinx t-shirt!!
aaaaahhhh... KK having some scotch!!! Screw it if it's only 5:30.
Grats! I've lost all hope in moving up from diamond = ( Too much rage.
Anyone hating the new UI in 1.5?
I'm very out of practice, but I'd be down to play with some people and get back into RTS more. I only stopped playing because of lack of people to play with.What race do you play? I'd love to have people to play with.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1159860/1/Brentiss/