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Offline C7Kinetic

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 22:47:04 »
Any chance the Ergo kit could get a R3 1.5u Enter and a R1 1.5u ~? Less important, but nice to have would be a R2 1.5u Del and R4 1u Fn keys (are the multiples of the R4 1u PgUp and PgDn normal for ergo kits?)
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Offline deLEES

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 11:36:36 »
Count me in. Thanks for ISO  :thumb:
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Offline saint_james

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:50:20 »
Just saw this.  Want.  Very nice.
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Offline stoffelduss

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 06:13:40 »
hey, the ortho kit contains the keys r4 enter and r4 up-arrow twice. you could remove those two and instead add the three r4 modifier keys that would be needed to mirror the left-side mods on the right side, for those who don't use arrows there. great kits for ortho and ergo, and great design, probably won't join though since I use a colemak-like layout and am probably not comfortable with japanese legends.
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Offline Senor Coconut

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #104 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 07:57:15 »
I would second @Adelscott, if an FR kit is in, so will I!
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Offline dvorcol

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #105 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 13:57:54 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sat, 05 October 2019, 16:46:51
Mini update -

Things I'm working on -

Command kit for Mac keys (2 1u, 2 1.25u, and 2 1.5u)
Colevrak kik
International kit
ISO-FR kit

Things I'm not working on -

Text mods
More/different legend alpha kits

+1 for Colevrak.  Please consider a Colevrak+ content to support many alternative layouts.  More detail here.


Edit: added one R3 for Wide mod.
« Last Edit: Tue, 05 November 2019, 20:55:33 by dvorcol »
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Offline Senor Coconut

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #106 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 14:02:09 »
Thanks @dvorcol
music to my ears!
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Offline kmfmppl

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 15:49:59 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sat, 05 October 2019, 16:46:51

Things I'm working on -
International kit

 :thumb:
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Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #108 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 16:05:16 »
Render on an SP-111, kit has a skull: lets go
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Offline bliss

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #109 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 16:50:50 »
Quote from: depletedvespene on Thu, 03 October 2019, 13:59:56
Please consider adding an R3 \| key to complete support for US English over ISO and ANSISO.

+1

Looks very clean, Hiraganas are a dream, and definitely keep the OCM novelty!

Thank you for ISO support, which is a small extra for the buyer, but greatly boosts compatibility and future proofs the investment  :thumb:
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Offline selectallfrom

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #110 on: Sun, 27 October 2019, 16:15:13 »
Looks amazing...I'm in.
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Offline Senor Coconut

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 27 October 2019, 17:34:40 »
Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 26 October 2019, 13:57:54
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sat, 05 October 2019, 16:46:51
Mini update -

Things I'm working on -

Command kit for Mac keys (2 1u, 2 1.25u, and 2 1.5u)
(…)
ISO-FR kit

Things I'm not working on -

Text mods
More/different legend alpha kits
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Offline geekit

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 27 October 2019, 17:52:18 »
Uhm.. Perhaps not really a popular opinion, but red escape in the main kit, perhaps?
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Offline eyedrop

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 27 October 2019, 19:54:37 »
Can we get an extra B for the Alice type layout?

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Offline lolafineday

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 01:54:43 »
Quote from: eyedrop on Sun, 27 October 2019, 19:54:37
Can we get an extra B for the Alice type layout?

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Please give B

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Offline dvorcol

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 12:18:47 »
Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 26 October 2019, 13:57:54
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sat, 05 October 2019, 16:46:51
Mini update -

Things I'm working on -

Command kit for Mac keys (2 1u, 2 1.25u, and 2 1.5u)
Colevrak kik
International kit
ISO-FR kit

Things I'm not working on -

Text mods
More/different legend alpha kits

+1 for Colevrak.  Please consider a Colevrak+ content to support many alternative layouts.  More detail here.

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Small revision to my Colevrak+ suggestion.  Add an R3 ]} to support Wide mod, which works on any layout that uses QWERTY-standard punctuation (in this list only Dvorak does not).



I revised the picture in my post above, too.
« Last Edit: Tue, 05 November 2019, 20:55:18 by dvorcol »
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Offline deacon

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 11:16:41 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Thu, 03 October 2019, 19:17:25
basically wanted to cover all bases for non standard blank convex keys (besides the concave 1u, convex 1u looks odd)

Convex 1u caps feel so good!

Please consider converting the concave 1u caps in the Ortho Modifier kit to convex even if you make both in Spacebars concave. I use them instead of the Lower/Raise keys and shine the GMK equivalent caps in weeks they get used so much.

I've been waiting for a KAT WOB but I'll jump on KAT Eternal if I have to for the 1u convex caps.
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Offline vsrnth

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 11:43:24 »
Quote from: dvorcol on Tue, 29 October 2019, 12:18:47
Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 26 October 2019, 13:57:54
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sat, 05 October 2019, 16:46:51
Mini update -

Things I'm working on -

Command kit for Mac keys (2 1u, 2 1.25u, and 2 1.5u)
Colevrak kik
International kit
ISO-FR kit

Things I'm not working on -

Text mods
More/different legend alpha kits

+1 for Colevrak.  Please consider a Colevrak+ content to support many alternative layouts.  More detail here.

Show Image


Small revision to my Colevrak+ suggestion.  Add an R3 ]} to support Wide mod, which works on any layout that uses QWERTY-standard punctuation (in this list only Dvorak does not).

Show Image


I revised the picture in my post above, too.

+1 for what dvorcol said
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Offline Popopro

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 14:24:27 »
Quote from: eyedrop on Sun, 27 October 2019, 19:54:37
Can we get an extra B for the Alice type layout?

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Perhaps also an extra "B" for the hiragana kits?
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Offline danbee

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 31 October 2019, 13:26:51 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sat, 05 October 2019, 16:46:51
Mini update -

Things I'm working on -

Command kit for Mac keys (2 1u, 2 1.25u, and 2 1.5u)
Colevrak kik
International kit
ISO-FR kit

Things I'm not working on -

Text mods
More/different legend alpha kits

Is it too late to add a request for the International/ISO/Mac kit? Can we get an R4 ` and ~ key? This key is present next to left shift on Mac UK keyboards and it's super hard to get.

« Last Edit: Thu, 31 October 2019, 13:28:33 by danbee »
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Offline danbee

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 31 October 2019, 13:44:25 »
Another UK Mac only key is this one, which would be needed by anyone planning to cover a full size/TKL Mac UK layout:



These are the only two keys you'd need to add for full UK Mac coverage.

Btw, this keyset looks dope!
« Last Edit: Thu, 31 October 2019, 13:50:51 by danbee »
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Offline macclack

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:50:00 »
I'm very excited for this. Love KAT!
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Offline harlekein

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #122 on: Fri, 01 November 2019, 03:16:35 »
Quote from: Popopro on Wed, 30 October 2019, 14:24:27
Quote from: eyedrop on Sun, 27 October 2019, 19:54:37
Can we get an extra B for the Alice type layout?

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Perhaps also an extra "B" for the hiragana kits?

In split bars kit?
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Offline lolafineday

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #123 on: Fri, 01 November 2019, 05:15:06 »
Quote from: harlekein on Fri, 01 November 2019, 03:16:35
Quote from: Popopro on Wed, 30 October 2019, 14:24:27
Quote from: eyedrop on Sun, 27 October 2019, 19:54:37
Can we get an extra B for the Alice type layout?

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Perhaps also an extra "B" for the hiragana kits?

In split bars kit?
Would make sense.

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Offline nathanchere

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #124 on: Fri, 01 November 2019, 08:31:26 »
I can see this working well to balance out some of the other KAT kits with some annoying aspects.
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Offline Popopro

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #125 on: Fri, 01 November 2019, 09:39:02 »
Quote from: harlekein on Fri, 01 November 2019, 03:16:35
Quote from: Popopro on Wed, 30 October 2019, 14:24:27
Quote from: eyedrop on Sun, 27 October 2019, 19:54:37
Can we get an extra B for the Alice type layout?

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Perhaps also an extra "B" for the hiragana kits?

In split bars kit?

A lot of sets are putting them there.
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Offline voight-kampff

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 13:11:33 »
Definitely in
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Offline LoneRegiment

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #127 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 14:21:49 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Fri, 04 October 2019, 06:57:12
Quote from: nvmbra on Fri, 04 October 2019, 06:47:01
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Fri, 04 October 2019, 05:27:57
Quote from: nvmbra on Fri, 04 October 2019, 02:34:34
Aren't the rows numbered wrong in the TKL mod kit?
The current Tab key is in the same row as the number keys. So for the first row of alphas you would have R1(for the mods) and R2(for the alphas) mixed together.
It looks like you moved the rows after the function keys one row further down than need to be.

Quote from: rondg on Thu, 03 October 2019, 20:56:01
Any chance to move the R0 1u Del key to the TKL Modifiers kit? ;D
That's the only key needed to cover the basic (standard?) 75% layout for alpha + tkl modifier, at least for me.

I second this after you fixed the rows but I think he means for R1 instead of R0.

There's currently no way to do HHKB/Tsangan layout for example without having mixed rows.
If you fix the rows it would open up more compatibility for 60-75% layouts.

Yep I'm dumb and misnumbered the rows lol going to get that fixed asap. I'm not sure what is preventing hhkb/Tsangan at the moment since the R2 backspace and R1 tilde and pipe/slash keys are included. Is there a Tsangan variant that uses a 1u delete in R1?

That was only an example for the misnumbered rows. If they're getting fixed it's all good.

The R1 Delete key is used on 65% or 75% layouts, if you look at some renders of GMK sets you should be able to see what I mean.

Anyway, definitely in for at least one set.

I fixed the rows for the TKL kit, does everything look kosher now? I still need to add the delete, but hopefully it makes more sense now

The 40's mod kit is off by a row currently: R1 R2 R3 R4 R4 R4
it should be: R2 R3 R4 R4 R4 R4
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Offline dakanya

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #128 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 11:21:14 »
I love the aesthetic, gonna be in on this for sure. Is it possible to get ⌫ for backspace legend?
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Offline DMacKB

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #129 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 21:06:23 »
Dude, Skully is way too good to only appear once in set! Need at least row 1,2,3 :)
I’d love those 3 escape keys in ortho kit to be skullies.
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Offline Tefrem34

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 05 November 2019, 04:29:51 »
I am super excited about this set. I really hope that alternative layouts will be added for us Colemak and Dvorak users. :)
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Offline Senor Coconut

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #131 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 07:38:47 »
Any update?
— If the ISO FR option is added, as mentioned earlier, count me in.
— Did you consider a  Deskmat option with the skull (black, white, or both) as a pattern?
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Offline vsrnth

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 22:54:37 »
Is dailyclack going to be the vendor for Oceania region?
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Offline voight-kampff

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #133 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50 »
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?
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Offline ocm

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #134 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19 »
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^
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Offline Hell-es

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #135 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 12:38:15 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^
Thanks for takmg your time - with 7V and Dawn coming up - its good to have some time to gather the budget ;) ... and atlantis ... and space cadet
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Offline Adelscott

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #136 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 17:31:35 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^
I want this set very bad. Please make it happen
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Please think about ISO users, add a split left shift to your "alice style" keyboards

Offline OmniSzron

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #137 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 05:33:43 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
The GB was delayed to March 2020
That's actually all right for me. I wanted to check out KAT Milkshake before I commit to another KAT set.
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Offline Hell-es

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #138 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 09:10:47 »
Quote from: OmniSzron on Mon, 02 December 2019, 05:33:43
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
The GB was delayed to March 2020
That's actually all right for me. I wanted to check out KAT Milkshake before I commit to another KAT set.
+1 with so many interesting KAT sets coming up - really want to get hands on milkshake first
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Offline Senor Coconut

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #139 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 15:08:04 »
Quote from: Adelscott on Sun, 01 December 2019, 17:31:35
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^
I want this set very bad. Please make it happen
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I love it when a designer takes the time to compose a nice ISO FR kit   ;D
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Offline selectallfrom

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 15:56:40 »
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^

I'd loved to see some RAMA artisans.
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Offline eniigma

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #141 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 16:11:07 »
Quote from: selectallfrom on Tue, 03 December 2019, 15:56:40
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^

I'd loved to see some RAMA artisans.
rama is cherry r1, not KAT afaik

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Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #142 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 16:20:10 »
Quote from: eniigma on Tue, 03 December 2019, 16:11:07
Quote from: selectallfrom on Tue, 03 December 2019, 15:56:40
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^

I'd loved to see some RAMA artisans.
rama is cherry r1, not KAT afaik

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RAMA did a collab with KAT milkshake: https://novelkeys.xyz/products/kat-milkshake-gb?variant=29232048635997
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Offline selectallfrom

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #143 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 17:43:00 »
Quote from: KingOfMemes on Tue, 03 December 2019, 16:20:10
Quote from: eniigma on Tue, 03 December 2019, 16:11:07
Quote from: selectallfrom on Tue, 03 December 2019, 15:56:40
Quote from: OneCreativeMind on Sun, 01 December 2019, 10:37:19
Quote from: voight-kampff on Sun, 01 December 2019, 06:17:50
When will the GB start?
Is there some news about this?

Heyo! No big news, apologies for the silence on this thread. The GB was delayed to March 2020 (based on TKC's schedule and availability) so I'm taking my time and really making sure I get kits, samples, renders, deskmats, and maybe some artisans right  ^-^

I'd loved to see some RAMA artisans.
rama is cherry r1, not KAT afaik

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
RAMA did a collab with KAT milkshake: https://novelkeys.xyz/products/kat-milkshake-gb?variant=29232048635997

That’s the one I picked for this kit before the hint of a possible artisan from OP.  However I’d be down for any artisan though even if it wasn’t a collab with RAMA.
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Offline Funkzilla

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #144 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 00:50:09 »
Cannot wait for this, the wob icon mods make me drool.
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Offline jf908

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #145 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 19:43:14 »
Quote from: danbee on Thu, 31 October 2019, 13:26:51
Is it too late to add a request for the International/ISO/Mac kit? Can we get an R4 ` and ~ key? This key is present next to left shift on Mac UK keyboards and it's super hard to get.

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This key is so rare that I think I would get the set just for this.
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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #146 on: Fri, 27 December 2019, 18:25:13 »
please consider daily clack as oce vendor thanks
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Offline delet_d

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #147 on: Sat, 28 December 2019, 01:46:50 »
kinda digging the "white on dark grey" here! If i'm not mistaken, the 40's kit row numbering is all messed up. R1 should be R2, R2 should be R3, and R3 should be R4.
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Offline Beerbezerker

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #148 on: Sat, 28 December 2019, 15:57:22 »
Quote from: belgium_waffles on Fri, 27 December 2019, 18:25:13
please consider daily clack as oce vendor thanks

+1 to this!
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Offline USRapt0r

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Re: [IC] KAT WoB
« Reply #149 on: Sat, 28 December 2019, 21:32:31 »
Very interested!!! I would like to see 1u convex spacebars over concave ones; I may not know better but I feel like looks aren't a solid reason to keep them out.  Is it a matter of having to choose between the two?
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