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[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111581.0][img width=240 height=120]https://i.imgur.com/HsmPwWX.png[/img][/url]Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
did you not learn from gmkBlue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.hanguktaegeukgi
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
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This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
I know you are referencing the SAA.Considering this is an IC, you haven't referenced your choosing of green subs in the OP, and still didn't explain it, what's green represent in the Arabic World and Islam?
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?
This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?
This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat
1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?
This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat
1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.
I retracted that sub legend comment guess not fast enough, that was my bad. Ok and Ok, understand numpad concerns, mods are your choice. I just feel like that deskmat is not up to scratch with the rest of the set, henced the rushed comment. I did not comment on vendors, pricing, full kitting at all.
Not a fan of the "two of the same legend on one key" look. Preferred how GMK Greek Beige did their legends (which is, to my understanding, how keyboards with Greek legends actually look)
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?
This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat
1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?
Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while agoShow Image(https://external-preview.redd.it/I6cqUZ27EguX-RlnqnWclrM1KzAMpkWB4zgNaYuauHU.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=ff6240006830f38afaddaa61ecc7325938f0f3fd)
That's ePBT lolI love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?
Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while agoShow Image(https://external-preview.redd.it/I6cqUZ27EguX-RlnqnWclrM1KzAMpkWB4zgNaYuauHU.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=ff6240006830f38afaddaa61ecc7325938f0f3fd)
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?
Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while agoShow Image(https://external-preview.redd.it/I6cqUZ27EguX-RlnqnWclrM1KzAMpkWB4zgNaYuauHU.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=ff6240006830f38afaddaa61ecc7325938f0f3fd)
No I mean this set, but I could be wrong about the name..Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rl5iZMt.jpg)
That's ePBT lolI love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?
Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while agoShow Image(https://external-preview.redd.it/I6cqUZ27EguX-RlnqnWclrM1KzAMpkWB4zgNaYuauHU.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=ff6240006830f38afaddaa61ecc7325938f0f3fd)
Spoiler OCO modern beige was always ePBT.Did people not know this?
That's ePBT lolI love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?
Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while agoShow Image(https://external-preview.redd.it/I6cqUZ27EguX-RlnqnWclrM1KzAMpkWB4zgNaYuauHU.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=ff6240006830f38afaddaa61ecc7325938f0f3fd)
That said, if you wanna go icon mods, call it Modern Arabic instead. I think it'd be way more fittingOG ISO-DE and ISO-UK sets used to have icon mods..
I'm Persian not Arabic, but Muslim nonetheless. No clue what significance green has.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Excuse me, how/what? Ask someone who lives in this region about that...
In one of the chapters in the Quran, the colour green was used to describe the colour of garments and cushions of people in the afterlife. So, green has been associated with prosperity. Historical significance with flags I am not versed, but I am sure this has major influence.I'm Persian not Arabic, but Muslim nonetheless. No clue what significance green has.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Excuse me, how/what? Ask someone who lives in this region about that...
That said, if you wanna go icon mods, call it Modern Arabic instead. I think it'd be way more fittingOG ISO-DE and ISO-UK sets used to have icon mods..
Digging it, but please include R5! Can't be a classic set without being R5 :cool:Yes, R5!, but keep icon mods please.
This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Allow me to clarify. OP has played off stereotypes in one of his past sets to the point where it had to be overhauled. (see JYMV's video on GMK Hanguk) In my opinion we are seeing the same issue here. Instead of explaining his choice, he states the most generic answer that didn't have much thought behind it other than a quick google search. If he wanted green subs, it's fine, just say you want green subs. Point is, I was annoyed with his answer because it felt like he was saying "it's green because that's what google says it should be." To me, it seemed disingenuous. To the OP: I do apologize for my brash comment. I hope you understand my concerns.This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Nice critique. Your point makes so much sennse.... I smell something *sniff* *sniff* Ahhh, Racism Hello!
1. no
Allow me to clarify. OP has played off stereotypes in one of his past sets to the point where it had to be overhauled. (see JYMV's video on GMK Hanguk) In my opinion we are seeing the same issue here. Instead of explaining his choice, he states the most generic answer that didn't have much thought behind it other than a quick google search. If he wanted green subs, it's fine, just say you want green subs. Point is, I was annoyed with his answer because it felt like he was saying "it's green because that's what google says it should be." To me, it seemed disingenuous. To the OP: I do apologize for my brash comment. I hope you understand my concerns.This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Nice critique. Your point makes so much sennse.... I smell something *sniff* *sniff* Ahhh, Racism Hello!
Allow me to clarify. OP has played off stereotypes in one of his past sets to the point where it had to be overhauled. (see JYMV's video on GMK Hanguk) In my opinion we are seeing the same issue here. Instead of explaining his choice, he states the most generic answer that didn't have much thought behind it other than a quick google search. If he wanted green subs, it's fine, just say you want green subs. Point is, I was annoyed with his answer because it felt like he was saying "it's green because that's what google says it should be." To me, it seemed disingenuous. To the OP: I do apologize for my brash comment. I hope you understand my concerns.This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard.Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Nice critique. Your point makes so much sennse.... I smell something *sniff* *sniff* Ahhh, Racism Hello!
Maybe he likes Me and I like green for sure and maybe he wanted to make a treeleaf approved set
It's like I am a butterfly and he caught me with the net
Because he sure hit it on the mark
Arabic sublegends and green. What else could a treeleaf want
I love the Sam.
OK OK I was just kidding don't pay attention to me ok I dont know anything about Arabic
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
1. no
Where have I seen that before? Best. Interest. Check. Ever.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
I can't even begin to explain how limiting this is. When you equate the Arabic world with Islam you are selling short Arabic culture and Muslims from other cultures both.
It's like equating the entire Western world with Christianity.
Need more keycap sets with arabic sub legends. I'm in!
Can green accents kit also include a tilde ~ / ذ key similar to how IFK does it?Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/Infinikey-Cafe_Render_Flatlay_Arabica-Kit_Labeled_1024x1024.png?v=1607119463)
I agree with others: this set needs R5! Keep OG icon mods :thumb:
Need more keycap sets with arabic sub legends. I'm in!
Can green accents kit also include a tilde ~ / ذ key similar to how IFK does it?Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/Infinikey-Cafe_Render_Flatlay_Arabica-Kit_Labeled_1024x1024.png?v=1607119463)
Thanks your the suggestion! Is there any exact reason to use this? If you referencing potential HHKB layouts, usage would be extremely limited in my opinion.
Can you elaborate a bit more?
,Need more keycap sets with arabic sub legends. I'm in!
Can green accents kit also include a tilde ~ / ذ key similar to how IFK does it?Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/Infinikey-Cafe_Render_Flatlay_Arabica-Kit_Labeled_1024x1024.png?v=1607119463)
Thanks your the suggestion! Is there any exact reason to use this? If you referencing potential HHKB layouts, usage would be extremely limited in my opinion.
Can you elaborate a bit more?
If you're using this set on a keyboard without the F row like a 65/60 percent you'd normally put esc where tilde is. That's normally fine but with Arabic keycap sets you have ~ذ with the ذ Arabic letter sub legend on the tilde key. If you replace tilde with the esc key you're now missing the letter ذ on your Arabic keyboard.
So without a green ~ذ tilde key it becomes a compromise of either wanting a green accent esc key but missing an Arabic letter on your keyboard. Or having no accent top left corner key but keeping all the Arabic letters on your keyboard.
,Need more keycap sets with arabic sub legends. I'm in!
Can green accents kit also include a tilde ~ / ذ key similar to how IFK does it?Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/Infinikey-Cafe_Render_Flatlay_Arabica-Kit_Labeled_1024x1024.png?v=1607119463)
Thanks your the suggestion! Is there any exact reason to use this? If you referencing potential HHKB layouts, usage would be extremely limited in my opinion.
Can you elaborate a bit more?
If you're using this set on a keyboard without the F row like a 65/60 percent you'd normally put esc where tilde is. That's normally fine but with Arabic keycap sets you have ~ذ with the ذ Arabic letter sub legend on the tilde key. If you replace tilde with the esc key you're now missing the letter ذ on your Arabic keyboard.
So without a green ~ذ tilde key it becomes a compromise of either wanting a green accent esc key but missing an Arabic letter on your keyboard. Or having no accent top left corner key but keeping all the Arabic letters on your keyboard.
Ahhh, ok. I get it! Makes sense!
Would it make even more sense to add another Esc key in the green accent kit with the sublegend ذ, to accomodate exactly for those layouts?
You could either use a layer for the Esc key, or realize ~ذ with QMK GESC...
The sublegend here is quite different from the sublegend from CRP, Epbt and even GMK Classic Retro Arabic. I mean, in term of the having additional arabic character in some of the character. Example in font N, having ؠ together with آ. I think it would be nice to have that full coverage of arabic sublegend.
The sublegend here is quite different from the sublegend from CRP, Epbt and even GMK Classic Retro Arabic. I mean, in term of the having additional arabic character in some of the character. Example in font N, having ؠ together with آ. I think it would be nice to have that full coverage of arabic sublegend.
Yeah I'm realizing now while the current design is really clean, for this to be usable as an Arabic keyboard it's missing a lot of different things. I like the way it's done in CRP Arabic.
The sublegend here is quite different from the sublegend from CRP, Epbt and even GMK Classic Retro Arabic. I mean, in term of the having additional arabic character in some of the character. Example in font N, having ؠ together with آ. I think it would be nice to have that full coverage of arabic sublegend.
Yeah I'm realizing now while the current design is really clean, for this to be usable as an Arabic keyboard it's missing a lot of different things. I like the way it's done in CRP Arabic.
it's still usable cause it has the main alphabet. and I agree it looks cleaner this way. keep in mind if you gonna add the additional arabic character, you might as will add the symbols too and it's gonna look very busy. i love both but its up to the designer
No F13?
The sublegend here is quite different from the sublegend from CRP, Epbt and even GMK Classic Retro Arabic. I mean, in term of the having additional arabic character in some of the character. Example in font N, having ؠ together with آ. I think it would be nice to have that full coverage of arabic sublegend.it's still usable cause it has the main alphabet. and I agree it looks cleaner this way. keep in mind if you gonna add the additional arabic character, you might as will add the symbols too and it's gonna look very busy. i love both but its up to the designer
It would be nice if we could select multiple kits in the IC form, since I am keen on base, spacebars and Greek subs.
Also R4 or R5 should probably be a choose-one style question (radio buttons) rather than a free form field.
Hoping we can a large amount of interest in icon+text mods and R5 from the form!
BTW you might want to consider moving the extra B key from the spacebar kit to the base kit, since probably lots of people will already have split beige spacebars from GMK Spacekeys or other beige sets.
It would be nice if we could select multiple kits in the IC form, since I am keen on base, spacebars and Greek subs.
Also R4 or R5 should probably be a choose-one style question (radio buttons) rather than a free form field.
No love for 40's on this set? :'(
where's the greek gyro deskmat? ne child kits named after food avail? i would really like to see a greek/Algeria, Bahrain, Chad, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen flag novelty :)
ESC with sublegend does nothing to the fact that ذ will be accessible only via FN layer.,Need more keycap sets with arabic sub legends. I'm in!
Can green accents kit also include a tilde ~ / ذ key similar to how IFK does it?Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/Infinikey-Cafe_Render_Flatlay_Arabica-Kit_Labeled_1024x1024.png?v=1607119463)
Thanks your the suggestion! Is there any exact reason to use this? If you referencing potential HHKB layouts, usage would be extremely limited in my opinion.
Can you elaborate a bit more?
If you're using this set on a keyboard without the F row like a 65/60 percent you'd normally put esc where tilde is. That's normally fine but with Arabic keycap sets you have ~ذ with the ذ Arabic letter sub legend on the tilde key. If you replace tilde with the esc key you're now missing the letter ذ on your Arabic keyboard.
So without a green ~ذ tilde key it becomes a compromise of either wanting a green accent esc key but missing an Arabic letter on your keyboard. Or having no accent top left corner key but keeping all the Arabic letters on your keyboard.
Ahhh, ok. I get it! Makes sense!
Would it make even more sense to add another Esc key in the green accent kit with the sublegend ذ, to accomodate exactly for those layouts?
You could either use a layer for the Esc key, or realize ~ذ with QMK GESC...
Personally would prefer green esc key with the sublegend ذ like you suggested. Think that would be awesome, thanks for taking this into consideration! :)
I have my current 60% configured to something similar, layer 0 is esc and layer 1 is tilde.
Smokey has shown AGAIN that he is not the designer to be asked for consideration regarding language or culture.
Sublegends for the sake of it are gaudy and often misutilized and Smokey is all about taking advantage of the market creating sets for people who are just as uncaring and disrespectful as he is.
To those who are unaware please take a serious consideration if your support for his sets. His responses and actions are only in defense of himself and his outlet to make money off of you.
Smokey has shown AGAIN that he is not the designer to be asked for consideration regarding language or culture.
Sublegends for the sake of it are gaudy and often misutilized and Smokey is all about taking advantage of the market creating sets for people who are just as uncaring and disrespectful as he is.
To those who are unaware please take a serious consideration if your support for his sets. His responses and actions are only in defense of himself and his outlet to make money off of you.
On an unrelated note, I'm not super sure what's up with so many sets being put into "IC" with a full vendor list, GB date, and like 6 collabs? Maybe I'm missing the point of an IC or the meaning has changed over time but it's a little strange to me.
Putting aside the problems that could arise re: respecting cultures across the world (or rather a potential lack of doing so), there's an overall lack of professionalism in the responses to genuine concern/criticisms in this thread and I don't know that it bodes well for this set.I'm not gonna comment on the feedback in your first two paragraphs since there is plenty discussion here already.
You should be more aware that the community is going to remember what happened with your previous set(s) and you should take that into consideration when hearing their feedback and concerns. I am not sure why you chose to create this set, but given that it's once again representing another world culture you should probably be a little more open minded and professional when addressing concerns. You come across as extremely dismissive at times and a little childish in your responses to criticism.
On an unrelated note, I'm not super sure what's up with so many sets being put into "IC" with a full vendor list, GB date, and like 6 collabs? Maybe I'm missing the point of an IC or the meaning has changed over time but it's a little strange to me.
Best of luck. I hope you can get this set to a point where people feel comfortable using it and supporting it.
I was excited to see the title Classic Arabic. It's a beautiful layout (no surprise - the Arabic alphabet itself is beautiful), which is nearly impossible to acquire an "original" of.
I'm entirely turned off by your font choice for the Arabic alphabet though; I think it clashes severely with the Latin Cherry font. There's been a lot of comments regarding R5 and icon mods being necessary to keep the set true to the "Classic" (original Cherry) title, but I'm surprised nobody's commented on the font. For reference, here's the font Cherry used in the first place for their Arabic models, which I think works much better with the Latin Cherry font:
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Originally posted with more photos by 블루스톤 on kbdmania (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/6473400)
That said though, Cherry aren't famed for being perfectionists when it comes to producing keyboards with less common layouts. As pointed out in this thread, their Greek boards were.. not exactly Greek (although it was theorized (https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?p=174918#p174918) they could have been for the Cypriot market). People have also pointed out issues with their Russian keyboards. If their attempt at Arabic was as poor as their attempt at Greek, it wouldn't be a good idea to proceed with replicas of their legends either.
Since there are a fair few Arabic speakers in this thread: what do you reckon about Cherry's attempt at Arabic? Did they do a good job of it or another awful one?
You sound, like, super corporate, man. It's not what you said, but how you said it. I think money's on your mind.
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
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Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
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Yes, you're absolutely right the green color has a large meaning for us in the Islamic & Arabic world.
Thank you for your choice.
I dont need the numpad so the base kit could be smaller for me (preference)
Red color way accent as there is already blue and green
take same alphas(arabic) and make them red instead of green or blue
NorDe WITH SUBLEGENDS!!!
maybe novelties with colors of the flags of countries that speak arabic? algeria for instance has orange.
Novelties, maybe something like arabic coffee pot (this would go really well with the green since Arabs drink green coffee!), arabic lantern. Just cultural stuff
some novelties/cool mods would be cool
some cool novelties with maybe icons from the arab world
Novelty keys
Yes, I would love to have LED caps, perhaps included in the base kit?
Iso keys in base
I would cancel the collaborations with gothcaps because it don't mach the Arabic/Islamic theme.U serious, bro? Would RAMA, Alpha Keycaps or anything else match better?
Deskmats, but it's already on your To-Do List :)
DESKMATS!!!!
Literally a TON ongoing feedback about Icon+Text mods
I am aware of blue arabic sublegends (HAD), but imho green hasn't been done, but ofc I could be proven wrong. But red I would definitely stay away from. Red sublegends in my head are associated with Cyrillic.
Btw...if you like red, strongly consider GMK Red Alert by my buddy break. It's in GB right now.
If you really meant 'accent' as in accent kit, I think the green sublegends combined with red accents would not match.
I am aware of blue arabic sublegends (HAD), but imho green hasn't been done, but ofc I could be proven wrong. But red I would definitely stay away from. Red sublegends in my head are associated with Cyrillic.
Btw...if you like red, strongly consider GMK Red Alert by my buddy break. It's in GB right now.
If you really meant 'accent' as in accent kit, I think the green sublegends combined with red accents would not match.
For what it's worth, HAD is doubleshot German, SAA/SPA is the OG Cherry Arabic stuff. Green has been done in Hebrew, following that logic of red being done with Cyrillic. My preference 100% is blue here but it's probably too late now.
Can you please put a extra minus and plus key in the alphas sets (especially the Greek one). That way I can use the alphas with other sets without having to buy a whole base kit.
Can you please put a extra minus and plus key in the alphas sets (especially the Greek one). That way I can use the alphas with other sets without having to buy a whole base kit.
Please consider adding those 2 keys AND a tab key, as this would allow people to also stretch Base + alphas to fit 2 boards.
I'm not really a deskmat guy (for one thing, my desk is too small) but these look absolutely excellent!UPDATE:
Deskmat Protos are in my hands and they look amazing!
Can you please put a extra minus and plus key in the alphas sets (especially the Greek one). That way I can use the alphas with other sets without having to buy a whole base kit.
Please consider adding those 2 keys AND a tab key, as this would allow people to also stretch Base + alphas to fit 2 boards.
Came here to say this. Please consider adding those 2 keys AND a tab key, as this would allow people to also stretch Base + alphas to fit 2 boards.
Just found this! OMG finally a proper set with proper Greek support sublegends. Can't wait to buy this set and thanks soooo much in advance for making this possible. Count me in for 2 sets
I like it, been looking for a keyset with green accents. Greek option is also a plus, very nice.
I'm not really a deskmat guy (for one thing, my desk is too small) but these look absolutely excellent!
Confirmed!
Quotes should be here any day now.
Smokey has shown AGAIN that he is not the designer to be asked for consideration regarding language or culture.
Sublegends for the sake of it are gaudy and often misutilized and Smokey is all about taking advantage of the market creating sets for people who are just as uncaring and disrespectful as he is.
To those who are unaware please take a serious consideration if your support for his sets. His responses and actions are only in defense of himself and his outlet to make money off of you.