Author Topic: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL (Read 363785 times)

bisoromi · « **on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:23:31 »

IC Form: https://forms.gle/X7oHLXMGtJdXsjYf9

Hi all!

This IC is for the WRISTBREAKER TKL.

The WRISTBREAKER is a high angle board which takes inspiration from several classic kustoms such as the OTD 456GT, TX1800v2, Duck, TGR Jane, etc. This was at first just a fun little meme project that I didn't think would go anywhere, but once I got the prototype I was really happy with how it turned out. Although not THE heaviest board around, this thing is a hefty beast.

This will be run and fulfilled by goddream

Plate:

Specs

14° angle
1.5mm plate
2x 10mm weights
Aluminum case
RGB underglow, two frosted acrylic diffusers on the underside
USB-C (with daughterboard) compatible with a87 PCBs
USB port parallel to desk
Fixed ANSI WKL layout (will provide plate file)
Compatible with TGR Jane V2 Plates
9.26lbs/4.2kg built

Other technical info:

18.8mm front height
7.8mm bezel height
.5mm switch cutout fillets
14mm top bezel, 10mm bottom bezel, 6mm side bezels
19.05mm switch spacing
9.5mm from top of plate to bottom case
8x M3 5mm (case)
7x M3 5mm (plate)
4x M8 16mm countersink (weights)
4x M3 4mm countersink (diffusers)

Differences between v1 and v2 proto:

Larger weight 8mm to 10mm thick
Modified daughterboard/JST cable cutout
Modified plate cuts
Various minor internal case changes

Prototype v2

Prototype v1

***More photos: https://imgur.com/a/4JqEs7t***

Underglow

Typing Test

RGB Underglow Burn-in

Pricing
TBD

Timeline
TBD

Vendors
TBD

Let me know if you have any questions, if I'm missing something, or if you want more pics!

Thanks for looking!

bisoromi · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:23:53 »

first

would? · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:25:02 »

Love it!! High angle is king. Good luck

DetectiveNio · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:25:16 »

Dang 14?

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cldskt · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:27:52 »

Madman actually proceeded to open the IC for this. All the best bruh.

Sifo · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:30:35 »

LMAO damn good luck man

im_hide · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:31:51 »

god DAMN that is STEEP

Slash Emperor · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:34:33 »

Guess I'll do it for the meme, I'm in! Digging the design and the "buttcheek" weights, The Jane V2 plate compatibility is also nice to see.

Ne extra wrists avail

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bisoromi · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:38:31 »

Quote from: Slash Emperor on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:34:33

Digging the design and the "buttcheek" weights

(Br)ass cheeks

Veiox · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:38:54 »

mmmm if only the screws were a bit bigger

Slash Emperor · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:39:45 »

Quote from: bisoromi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:38:31

Quote from: Slash Emperor on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:34:33
Digging the design and the "buttcheek" weights

(Br)ass cheeks

Aight, just send me an invoice now.

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elli · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:45:48 »

what the ****. ..

SirShakes · « **Reply #12 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:47:57 »

I want in...

PossUmKitteH_XD · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:58:00 »

I really hope I get a spot for this. This is something I would love to have

CF73 · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:02:46 »

Looks nice, but it'd be just be a chunky shelf piece for me

45 deg when

Krelbit · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:08:31 »

I love bistromi sandwiches

nguyenhimself · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:54:01 »

>14° angle
Sacrifice your wirsts and surrender to the Carpal Tunnel God for your heavy keeb boi.

Nigolski · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 01:40:46 »

sheesh

harlekein · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 03:11:38 »

I'll stick to my ergonomic keebs.

trg1234 · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 04:52:56 »

Nice

phinix · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 05:53:14 »

How... where... why... is... I'm worried.

Atlantic · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 07:04:35 »

"rsi has joined the game"
Jokes aside superb board! Those fat screws are perfection.

long_qt_pie · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:17:37 »

Absolutely in, especially love the plate compat!

Tonkatonk · « **Reply #23 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:27:55 »

I love Bisoromi and Bisoromi accessories

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Lbibass · « **Reply #24 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:12:27 »

Holy ****.

SUB01 · « **Reply #25 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:35:41 »

Just make a super long wristwrest at 14 degress so you can rest your forearm on it while ur typing on this thing.

eniigma · « **Reply #26 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:37:07 »

holy crap dude, I can already feel my wrists cracking

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SUB01 · « **Reply #27 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:43:55 »

Just looking at this thing made me look up ergo boards for therapy.

booleanjulien · « **Reply #28 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 11:08:37 »

I'd be into this if the front weren't as high. I actually like around this angle fox XDA keycaps, as long as the front isn't too high.

hineybush · « **Reply #29 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 11:19:52 »

break me father

jizzaztartist · « **Reply #30 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:46:06 »

Shame about the branding

Smoff · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:09:44 »

Sup · « **Reply #32 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:19:09 »

Good luck mad man

hineybush · « **Reply #33 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:11:26 »

Quote from: jizzaztartist on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:46:06

Shame about the branding

it says "wristbreaker" on the bottom

actualglacier · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 00:06:18 »

holy s hit

vaughno · « **Reply #35 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 05:32:26 »

im in

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duckboi · « **Reply #36 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 08:03:57 »

bisoriomoi is my dad

LightningXI · « **Reply #37 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 12:04:46 »

Quote from: jizzaztartist on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:46:06

Shame about the branding

Cover it with black electrical tape

Puddsy · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 15:00:07 »

Quote from: LightningXI on Fri, 11 October 2019, 12:04:46

Quote from: jizzaztartist on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:46:06
Shame about the branding
Cover it with black electrical tape

you and your sensible ideas do not belong on this ****posting emporium

Zirylian · « **Reply #39 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 21:22:11 »

wew it's the carpal tunnelator

utilitytech · « **Reply #40 on:** Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:11:57 »

Can you tell whether the PCB will have hot swap sockets or not. The brass weights look too tame. I feel a copper weight option is also worth exploring.

Smoff · « **Reply #41 on:** Sat, 12 October 2019, 10:45:59 »

Quote from: utilitytech on Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:11:57

Can you tell whether the PCB will have hot swap sockets or not. The brass weights look too tame. I feel a copper weight option is also worth exploring.

Since it is only 20 units you can pretty much rule out hotswap pcb. You can use sip sockets though, it will be pretty much the same thing.

bisoromi · « **Reply #42 on:** Sat, 12 October 2019, 12:50:00 »

Quote from: utilitytech on Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:11:57

Can you tell whether the PCB will have hot swap sockets or not. The brass weights look too tame. I feel a copper weight option is also worth exploring.

Quote from: Smoff on Sat, 12 October 2019, 10:45:59

Since it is only 20 units you can pretty much rule out hotswap pcb. You can use sip sockets though, it will be pretty much the same thing.

Yup, Smoff is correct! There will be no hotswap options since I'll be using the standard h87a PCB. Also regarding copper, copper does seem like a neat option but it's a material that I haven't had experience with. From what I understand copper is a little more expensive, but I do like the look of brass that has some patina on it. In any case, I won't rule out the option for copper cause I think it'd be fun to try out!

keyboardcircle · « **Reply #43 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:22:18 »

no engraving on brass weight?

adxlk · « **Reply #44 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:46:54 »

Quote from: keyboardcircle on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:22:18

no engraving on brass weight?

that depends on your wallet size

trg1234 · « **Reply #45 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 09:20:04 »

Quote from: adxlk on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:46:54

Quote from: keyboardcircle on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:22:18
no engraving on brass weight?

that depends on your wallet size

just write with sharpie

bisoromi · « **Reply #46 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 09:24:15 »

Quote from: keyboardcircle on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:22:18

no engraving on brass weight?

Wanted to keep the design simple who opted out for any more engravings on this board!

bisoromi · « **Reply #47 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:41:28 »

Updated the OP with a typing test

I'll be honest it doesn't sound that good

Lubed Gateron Inks 205g0 stock springs
1.5mm brass plate
1.2mm h87a thinboi PCB
OG Dolch keycaps

Lbibass · « **Reply #48 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:59:15 »

Quote from: bisoromi on Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:41:28

Updated the OP with a typing test

I'll be honest it doesn't sound that good

Sometimes hollow boards can sound good, and other times they sound bad. This seems to be the latter. Is the interior parallel with the plate and pcb? If it's not, that could explain the sound.

Steezus · « **Reply #49 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:10:48 »

Quote from: bisoromi on Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:41:28

Updated the OP with a typing test

I'll be honest it doesn't sound that good

What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad. Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

bisoromi · « **Reply #50 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:29:22 »

Quote from: Lbibass on Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:59:15

Sometimes hollow boards can sound good, and other times they sound bad. This seems to be the latter. Is the interior parallel with the plate and pcb? If it's not, that could explain the sound.

This is a cross section view of the board

The PCB and plate are parallel with the bottom case. I wonder if using a 1.2mm PCB has anything to do with it? Although I'm skeptical of how much a .3mm difference would make in terms of sound. I think the biggest factor to the sound might be because of the keycaps. I'm planning on making another typing test soon with PBT caps instead.

Quote from: Steezus on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:10:48

What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad. Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

The plate is 1.5mm brass. I use a 'standard' 9mm distance from top of plate to bottom case. The bottom case only has a depth of 3mm. Are you saying that you think increasing this depth would improve the sound? My thinking is that that would make it sound hollower, but I don't know how sound works at all so you might be right.

Also I'll fix the video soon, I didn't catch that the audio was only on the left channel >.>

Steezus · « **Reply #51 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:36:33 »

Quote from: bisoromi on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:29:22

Quote from: Steezus on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:10:48

What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad. Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

The plate is 1.5mm brass. I use a 'standard' 9mm distance from top of plate to bottom case. The bottom case only has a depth of 3mm. Are you saying that you think increasing this depth would improve the sound? My thinking is that that would make it sound hollower, but I don't know how sound works at all so you might be right.

Also I'll fix the video soon, I didn't catch that the audio was only on the left channel >.>

That is correct in what I was trying to portray. I am in no way knowledgable on sound myself either. It could very much sound hollower if the depth is increased. I was imagining more of an echo. It's just food for thought as I personally have never seen any board design to improve acoustics in such a way. Perhaps nobody has done it because it is pointless.

clasicks · « **Reply #52 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:53:49 »

i want you and this

cspirou · « **Reply #53 on:** Mon, 28 October 2019, 15:28:06 »

Finally a keyboard for my hunt-and-peck style!

Krelbit · « **Reply #54 on:** Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:19:14 »

this board sounds more hollow than my social life

DoctorNunu · « **Reply #55 on:** Thu, 07 November 2019, 03:54:12 »

As a cheery on top you just had to use SA caps

)

bisoromi · « **Reply #56 on:** Thu, 07 November 2019, 10:07:33 »

Quote from: Krelbit on Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:19:14

this board sounds more hollow than my social life

:c

Quote from: DoctorNunu on Thu, 07 November 2019, 03:54:12

As a cheery on top you just had to use SA caps )

I love SA!!

vaughno · « **Reply #57 on:** Sat, 23 November 2019, 15:09:56 »

silver and i buy!!!

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papayapyjamas · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 13 January 2020, 01:43:40 »

no update?

SUB01 · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 13 January 2020, 11:01:37 »

The maker's wrists are broken so he can't type anymore :c

bisoromi · « **Reply #60 on:** Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:39:41 »

Hi all!

I apologize for the lack of updates.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to indefinitely put this project on hold as there are other projects I'm working on right now that I want to focus on. I will definitely come back to this project but right now I'm not sure when.

If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to send me a message!

Thanks for understanding!

Tonkatonk · « **Reply #61 on:** Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:46:08 »

Quote from: bisoromi on Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:39:41

Hi all!

I apologize for the lack of updates.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to indefinitely put this project on hold as there are other projects I'm working on right now that I want to focus on. I will definitely come back to this project but right now I'm not sure when.

If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to send me a message!

Thanks for understanding!

I think you should sell the design to a vendor, I think this tkl design could become as iconic as something like the gh60

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Sifo · « **Reply #62 on:** Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:46:57 »

i love u biso

meiosis · « **Reply #63 on:** Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:03:18 »

bisoromi · « **Reply #64 on:** Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:03:43 »

long_qt_pie · « **Reply #65 on:** Thu, 09 June 2022, 16:27:43 »

And we’re back!

megaforce · « **Reply #66 on:** Thu, 09 June 2022, 17:07:15 »

while ur breaking your wrist, bisoromi is breaking my back

phinix · « **Reply #67 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:08:04 »

what are those keycaps?

wigol2506 · « **Reply #68 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:15:16 »

Quote from: phinix on Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:08:04

Show Image

what are those keycaps?

Those are SA Biso.

phinix · « **Reply #69 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:48:45 »

Quote from: wigol2506 on Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:15:16

Quote from: phinix on Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:08:04
Show Image

what are those keycaps?

Those are SA Biso.

Aaah, right, that one, I remember. Such a nice colors, but design is crap. I wish you could pick those sets without face, just alphas in beige and dark mods.

Sifo · « **Reply #70 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 04:08:04 »

damn he's back

carlfink · « **Reply #71 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:04:11 »

revive this i need it now

granola bar enthusiast · « **Reply #72 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:18:42 »

"our keyboards are designed with ergonomics in mind to give you the best typing experience possible"

DaaDaa · « **Reply #73 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 15:07:10 »

big, burly, and heavy, and high is good, but why so butt-ugly?

Ansenki · « **Reply #74 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 22:15:03 »

Will you take refunds if people don’t break their wrists from this…

also BEEG screws omg

warmbidetaqua · « **Reply #75 on:** Fri, 10 June 2022, 22:35:53 »

hotdamn you can ski on that keyboard! glwic

bisoromi · « **Reply #76 on:** Mon, 13 June 2022, 19:41:00 »

Quote from: DaaDaa on Fri, 10 June 2022, 15:07:10

big, burly, and heavy, and high is good, but why so butt-ugly?

🥲

hali · « **Reply #77 on:** Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:28:43 »

big supporter please make pink

ankit · « **Reply #78 on:** Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:29:10 »

+1 for pink

Riizmaa · « **Reply #79 on:** Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:30:11 »

+2 pink

Tree_ · « **Reply #80 on:** Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:43:32 »

+3 pink

plag · « **Reply #81 on:** Fri, 24 June 2022, 20:26:07 »

+4 pink

ThreadyKeycaps · « **Reply #82 on:** Fri, 24 June 2022, 21:44:31 »

seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

hali · « **Reply #83 on:** Fri, 24 June 2022, 22:46:45 »

Quote from: ThreadyKeycaps on Fri, 24 June 2022, 21:44:31

seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

this tkl is not for the weak

Puddsy · « **Reply #84 on:** Sun, 26 June 2022, 15:21:00 »

Quote from: ThreadyKeycaps on Fri, 24 June 2022, 21:44:31

seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

the old school solution for high angle is to put a shim under the front part of the board to flatten out the typing surface. obviously this will raise the front height.

but this is a board you buy specifically because of the high angle, because high typing angle is for chads

Rob27shred · « **Reply #85 on:** Sun, 26 June 2022, 17:16:43 »

Quote from: ThreadyKeycaps on Fri, 24 June 2022, 21:44:31

seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

Where we're going you don't need comfort...

darthcapn · « **Reply #86 on:** Fri, 15 July 2022, 21:15:29 »

I had a dream that I was searching on mm for SA Biso for my wristbreaker. Woke up sad cuz I don't have a wristbreaker yet. Pls gib.

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r4bbl3d4bbl3 · « **Reply #87 on:** Sat, 01 October 2022, 10:38:20 »

Is this still going to be a thing? I need it

singabore · « **Reply #88 on:** Thu, 16 February 2023, 18:29:01 »

where's my wristbreaker

TheGreenLion172 · « **Reply #89 on:** Fri, 17 February 2023, 00:32:21 »

And I thought 11 degrees was high

)
GLWIC!

IMZO · « **Reply #90 on:** Sat, 26 August 2023, 21:02:47 »

getting used with duck orions lately, i think id be ready for the 14degrees

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Author Topic: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL (Read 363785 times)