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Offline OJtheTiny

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[IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:13:14 »

Demiurge





~Updates~
- 9.1.2022:
After extensive testing and feedback gathered from the members of the Finnish mech community (Thank you so much everyone! <3), I decided to revise a lot of the design.
I was not fully satisfied with the mounting method of the v1 prototype, so I decided to go back to the original idea of the board; PCB gasket or plate top mount, pick your poison.
I also decided to reduce the gap between the macro columns and the main cluster to .25u from the .5u it was previously, this also means ditching the indicator LEDs in the blocker (there's still an option for an in switch indicator LED for caps lock).
Next up, the PCB: as many of you know, microchip availability and pricing has been really hit an miss recently, and although it's getting better, I decided to play it safe and migrate the PCB to an RP2040 based design for better pricing and more stable availability. (Alps support also added after viewing IC feedback. ISO on a separate plate and PCB.)
Lastly, the weight, I heard you, the logo was not a good choice. Weight engraving has been changed to a text one, featuring the boards name. (see render.)

-9.22.2022:
V2 prototype ordered

-10.31.2022:
V2 Prototype received and built. Overall I'm very pleased with the revised design. It's quite a loud board with the PC plate and TTC Wilds, but the sound profile and typing feel are very pleasant in both gasket and top mount configs. I need to get some different plates in to test, but I don't think this will require another redesign lol.



~v2 specifications~
- 60% WKL XT layout
- 6 degree angle
- Seamless, "screwless" design
- PCB Gasket or Plate Top
- Big through weight
- SKUF feet
- RP2040 based PCB with integrated USB-C, ESD, all the bells and whistles
- layout support:




~V2 Proto Pics~
 

 



~TODO~
- Gather feedback on a few design elements.
- Order another prototype with the possible changes.
- Order different plate materials.
- Determine colors.
- Determine unit count based on interest.
- Reach out to vendors.
- Figure out pricing.
- GB!



~Renders~
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~Vendors~

- TBD



Very big thanks to
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- Hali for sanity checking my designs.
- Ari for hyping this idea up since day one.
- all my friends in the hobby who believed in me and kept pushing me to not post vaporware for once.


V1 Proto stuff
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~v1 specifications~
- 60% WKL XT layout
- 6 degree angle
- Seamless, "screwless" design
- PCB bottom mount
- Big through weight
- SKUF feet
- PCB with integrated USB-C, ESD, underglow RGB, all the bells and whistles
- layout support:


~v1 Prototype pics~






all the smudges and blemishes are from my dirty fingies, ano quality is very good irl

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Offline OJtheTiny

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:14:01 »
Update 22/03/2022: better pictures
« Last Edit: Tue, 22 March 2022, 08:37:21 by OJtheTiny »

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:18:18 »
the hg side with lip is so good

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:19:28 »
buddy.....
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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:19:58 »
60 xt good

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:20:18 »
hg sides swag

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:22:37 »
Came for the indicator lamps, stayed for the underglow.

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:23:00 »
screwless=I see the screws without even needing to flip over the board!
xt is always good tho
bro this a **** set, just be thankful you even getting 1 base running fr

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:26:16 »
screwless=I see the screws without even needing to flip over the board!
idk about you, but i dont see the screws in this picture

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:35:20 »
olivia so lit

Offline TheNeonKnight

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:37:13 »
Can you add alps support to the pcb? Even if you dont make an alps plate, its a nice touch.

Offline OJtheTiny

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:40:11 »
screwless=I see the screws without even needing to flip over the board!
xt is always good tho
hence "screwless"
Can you add alps support to the pcb? Even if you dont make an alps plate, its a nice touch.
I'll consider it


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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:43:59 »
Cherry lip is such an aesthetic cheat code  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 11:52:31 »
screwless=I see the screws without even needing to flip over the board!
idk about you, but i dont see the screws in this picture

I do..

« Last Edit: Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:13:19 by Phractals »

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:09:54 »
o this is kind of neat

Offline Pensa73

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:14:35 »
Really cool design. Not a fan of the logo tho

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:40:57 »
you have my interest, gotta wait for more info like price, possible vendor and how it sounds with popular switches. Id like to see hyperglide blacks

Offline OJtheTiny

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:51:00 »
screwless=I see the screws without even needing to flip over the board!
idk about you, but i dont see the screws in this picture

I do..

Show Image

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 13:02:10 »
Love

Lilac and pls support 3 1 3 space

I'm in regardless

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 13:05:13 »
what are the other three circles
i'm zhol

Offline ibankais

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 13:58:03 »
Second the Alps PCB support request, would 100% pick up one of these for an Alps build.

Lovely design, great work!

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 14:57:53 »
Me gusta

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 15:59:07 »
Yes yes yes yes, this is gorgeous and I can't get enough of it. GLWIC

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 16:17:29 »
Good lord this is sexy to look at

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 17:38:03 »
screwless but has poly bottom to see the screws

of course

and if you buy black screws you can't see them from the top side
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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 16 March 2022, 18:54:51 »
The board looks good. The comments about the screws being visible from the top only seems to be a thing in the render. Perhaps it's a screw size issue but wouldn't all screwless boards have this issue? I think the question of doing screwless at all these days is a better take personally. I'm indifferent.

I think it does enough different from the Jubi to differentiate before it comes up but it does seem similar.
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Offline OJtheTiny

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 17 March 2022, 08:50:13 »
The board looks good. The comments about the screws being visible from the top only seems to be a thing in the render. Perhaps it's a screw size issue but wouldn't all screwless boards have this issue? I think the question of doing screwless at all these days is a better take personally. I'm indifferent.

I think it does enough different from the Jubi to differentiate before it comes up but it does seem similar.
it's not a screw size issue, just the angle you're looking at the board from and as puddsy said, black hardware would make it pretty much invisible

Offline Evasive

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 17 March 2022, 20:52:41 »
Been looking for a 60xt to add the the collection. The front lip is nice, not so sure about that back logo tho.

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 18 March 2022, 20:24:29 »
the most hubristic keyboard
Can we get this engraved on the board somewhere?

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 18 March 2022, 21:15:45 »
okay but like... why is it hubristic?

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 22 July 2022, 15:26:50 »
any updates? I really want a 60% WKL XT  :-*

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 24 July 2022, 00:11:44 »
super interested in the pc bottom
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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 24 July 2022, 08:53:14 »
Oh yeah this board just screams hubristic. When I saw it I went "yep that is so hubristic". Definitely one of the more hubristic boards to date.  I can barely imagine a more hubristic board, that's how undeniably hubristic it is.
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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 01 September 2022, 00:36:22 »
~UPDATE~
- 9.1.2022:
After extensive testing and feedback gathered from the members of the Finnish mech community (Thank you so much every! <3), I decided to revise a lot of the design.
I was not fully satisfied with the mounting method of the v1 prototype, so I decided to go back to the original idea of the board; PCB gasket or plate top mount, pick your poison.
I also decided to reduce the gap between the macro columns and the main cluster to .25u from the .5u it was previously, this also means ditching the indicator LEDs in the blocker (there's still an option for an in switch indicator LED for caps lock).
Next up, the PCB: as many of you know, microchip availability and pricing has been really hit an miss recently, and although it's getting better, I decided to play it safe and migrate the PCB to an RP2040 based design for better pricing and more stable availability. (Alps support also added after viewing IC feedback. ISO on a separate plate and PCB.)
Lastly, the weight, I heard you, the logo was not a good choice. Weight engraving has been changed to a text one, featuring the boards name. (see render.)

Offline OJtheTiny

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 05:36:51 »
Updated with new proto pics and some details

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 12:33:12 »
Tried this board at the meetup and was extremely impressed, great work!

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 17 November 2022, 10:30:33 »
I gotta say, I really like where the USB port is placed. Great job!

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Re: [IC] Demiurge | 60% XT
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 29 December 2022, 13:29:24 »
i neeed for my uwu

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 30 December 2022, 12:47:04 »
Ill definitely be watching this. If you can, split space (either 3 1 3 or 2.75 1.25 2.25) would be a great add!