Post by: hoq on Wed, 21 November 2018, 09:50:23
I'm a PS and AI daily user, and I love PS and AI very much. To speed up my retouch work I always have to remember some short cut keys, but some times I press the wrong keys.
So, I think it would be better if I have a cheat sheet on my keyboard, or some icons on my keycaps.
You know, you may buy some short cut icon stickers from some online shops, but they looks not good, and feels bad.
Then, this idea flashed in my mind.
Profile: SA 1-1-2-3-4-3
Factory: Signature Plastics, USA
Material： Double-shot ABS
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bC7dBkQ/0/16cbd700/O/i-bC7dBkQ.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wMMwXQw/1/20e7be22/X3/i-wMMwXQw-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KS2K9R5/0/7bfeadb7/X3/i-KS2K9R5-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Zpp6Gpc/0/2a839c91/O/i-Zpp6Gpc.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dXCQqPf/0/b0029fef/O/i-dXCQqPf.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-BWqNXm5/1/7618a19f/O/i-BWqNXm5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-sdKnKV9/1/4449947a/O/i-sdKnKV9.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7LR4qZ2/0/80ccdd3e/X3/i-7LR4qZ2-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-RzKtvRX/0/dbd1623e/O/i-RzKtvRX.jpg)
Renders: (Made by York.Chen)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-7bWFCC2/0/1857f369/X5/i-7bWFCC2-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-rJcr6pW/0/feb6950e/X5/i-rJcr6pW-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-dTcFs7k/0/9000e6f4/X5/i-dTcFs7k-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-PcXJw3k/0/ed556889/X5/i-PcXJw3k-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-bxgThZS/0/218d08ed/X5/i-bxgThZS-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-QFpN35k/0/865d66fa/X5/i-QFpN35k-X5.jpg)
Q and A:
Q: Whether these shortcut icons have infringement problems？
A: Although it looks like original PS and AI software icons, it is actually my own work, I redrew them by myself.
Q: Why there are not Numpad kits?
A: I have not decided whether or not to add a kit for each, but if a lot of people would like to have numpad, I may add one for each color.
In fact I want to reduce the total cost to make more people can affort it.
Q: Does SP can side-print those icons on the front skirt of the keycaps?
A: SP replied me no problem. :thumb:
Q: Where do you want to run a group-buy for this keyset?
A: TBD
Q: When will you hold the group-buy?
A: TBD, maybe at this Christmas?
Q: What a possible production schedule for this keyset?
A: 1 year after the group-buy ends, the recent production slot for SA is Nov.2019. Don't always complain why it's so slow, why is it always delayed, you know it's just "new normal" for SP SA ABS keycaps.
Q: Have you cosidered to make with other metarial by other makers? such as SP PBT or Maxkey?
A: No. At least the first step, I want to do SP SA ABS first.
Q: What is your next work for this keyset?
A: 3D renders. :)) (done)
Post by: spkmic on Wed, 21 November 2018, 10:31:31
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 21 November 2018, 13:23:13
SA Mechanist GB is fail?It has already concluded. I joined that one.
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 21 November 2018, 13:24:56
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 21 November 2018, 15:26:24
Post by: gr4v3m4n on Wed, 21 November 2018, 20:21:45
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Post by: hoq on Wed, 21 November 2018, 20:29:14
SP and SA? Count me in :))
Yes SP SA!
Thanks!
Post by: AaronR on Wed, 21 November 2018, 21:41:43
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 21 November 2018, 21:49:45
Post by: appaboy on Wed, 21 November 2018, 21:58:22
edit: also not to be rude but i dont really like the trend of the "Up Down Left Right" printed arrow keys, so an option to have icons there would be appreciated
Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 21 November 2018, 22:08:48
SA Mechanist GB is fail?
Yeah, it really was. Chances are if this gets run on some sketchy unknown site, it will too!
Post by: yap68 on Thu, 22 November 2018, 02:00:31
So, please keep the cost down. I am ok without numpad. Lastly, can you do the gb on zFrontier or on your own like SA Song?
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Thu, 22 November 2018, 04:05:21
Post by: lovetree on Thu, 22 November 2018, 05:59:14
SA Mechanist GB is fail?It has already concluded. I joined that one.
Did you receive any invoice?
Post by: hoq on Thu, 22 November 2018, 06:39:41
I guess it'll be a fun question to ask since this keycaps actually functional other than just esthetics. What If i were going to use both programs in a work flow? Since both shortcuts has some differences and similarity.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
haha,it's a fun question, maybe you need to got 2 keyboards for both 2 keysets to put them on.
Just jorking.
Post by: hoq on Thu, 22 November 2018, 06:42:19
would really like a numpad kit myself. I love this! we need more sets with front printed stuff.
edit: also not to be rude but i dont really like the trend of the "Up Down Left Right" printed arrow keys, so an option to have icons there would be appreciated
Yes, Numpad can be added later.
Do you mean front print the arraws on UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT keys?
Post by: hoq on Thu, 22 November 2018, 06:43:44
would love option and command keys as this is inspired from a Macintosh to it really should have popper Mac support then
No problem , I'll add them later.
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 22 November 2018, 09:07:11
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sat, 24 November 2018, 12:22:10
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 24 November 2018, 14:49:18
I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This set heavily relies on side printed legends, which Maxkeys does not offer afaik
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sat, 24 November 2018, 15:02:10
Thanks, I wasn’t awareI love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This set heavily relies on side printed legends, which Maxkeys does not offer afaik
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Zilleon on Mon, 26 November 2018, 06:19:56
SA Mechanist GB is fail?It has already concluded. I joined that one.
Did you receive any invoice?
I also did not receive any invoice :(
Post by: young_won on Mon, 26 November 2018, 22:59:43
Post by: hoq on Wed, 28 November 2018, 08:40:45
I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Maxkey is not a bad choice, after I run SP SA I'll consider it.
Post by: William_S_Jones on Wed, 28 November 2018, 10:06:28
Thanks, I’m may still try to join you SP SA run, I just hate SP’ long & at time additional delays w/ SA sets.I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Maxkey is not a bad choice, after I run SP SA I'll consider it.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: breusch91 on Fri, 30 November 2018, 09:55:43
1. Who will be hosting this GB? Last time you ended up passing the GB off to some company with a brand new extremely sketchy website that wasnt functioning properly, only had this GB hosted on it and nothing else, and had no other functioning links, even the "privacy policy" link lead to a "File Not Found" page.
2. Where will people be able to discuss this buy if/after it makes it to the GB stage? Last time you quickly closed the IC once the GB opened (which is GH procedure), but then you never opened a GB thread or provided anywhere else to discuss the GB and its status.
3. Will you be accepting paypal for if this hits GB? This may seem like a dumb question, but last time Paypal was NOT accepted as payment.
I'm asking these questions because they are extremely important to the success of the set.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 30 November 2018, 10:05:26
Post by: spkmic on Fri, 30 November 2018, 22:42:48
SA Mechanist GB is fail?It has already concluded. I joined that one.
Did you receive any invoice?
I also did not receive any invoice :(
I did not receive any invoice.
They did not tell me anything.
So I thought that GB failed.
But I was suddenly billed today.
I do not even know my order list.
Panic. :( :'( >:D :confused: :mad: :eek:
Post by: Zilleon on Sat, 01 December 2018, 03:27:59
Same thing!SA Mechanist GB is fail?It has already concluded. I joined that one.
Did you receive any invoice?
I also did not receive any invoice :(
I did not receive any invoice.
They did not tell me anything.
So I thought that GB failed.
But I was suddenly billed today.
I do not even know my order list.
Panic. :( :'( >:D :confused: :mad: :eek:
If I don't get an email or something I'll have to chargeback...
@hoq can you tell us what is going on here?
Post by: hoq on Mon, 03 December 2018, 05:27:06
Same thing!SA Mechanist GB is fail?It has already concluded. I joined that one.
Did you receive any invoice?
I also did not receive any invoice :(
I did not receive any invoice.
They did not tell me anything.
So I thought that GB failed.
But I was suddenly billed today.
I do not even know my order list.
Panic. :( :'( >:D :confused: :mad: :eek:
If I don't get an email or something I'll have to chargeback...
@hoq can you tell us what is going on here?
Sorry, I also don't quite know the progress now.
If the group buy fail finally, I think I can run it one year leter with fewer kits and shorter group buy period.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 03 December 2018, 05:33:36
Renders: (Made by York.Chen)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-7bWFCC2/0/1857f369/X5/i-7bWFCC2-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-rJcr6pW/0/feb6950e/X5/i-rJcr6pW-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-dTcFs7k/0/9000e6f4/X5/i-dTcFs7k-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-PcXJw3k/0/ed556889/X5/i-PcXJw3k-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-bxgThZS/0/218d08ed/X5/i-bxgThZS-X5.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-QFpN35k/0/865d66fa/X5/i-QFpN35k-X5.jpg)
Post by: bluesclera on Mon, 03 December 2018, 08:31:20
Post by: hoq on Mon, 03 December 2018, 08:32:58
I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.
Do you mean the white spacebars? That not bad idea.
Post by: bluesclera on Mon, 03 December 2018, 08:41:18
I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.
Do you mean the white spacebars? That not bad idea.
Like this:
Post by: hoq on Mon, 03 December 2018, 09:08:23
I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.
Do you mean the white spacebars? That not bad idea.
Like this:
Ok, I understood.
Post by: biip on Mon, 03 December 2018, 09:27:57
Well executed.
I would have added a tabs icon under `~ tho.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 03 December 2018, 09:50:27
Before people get hyped on this you might want HOQ to answer a few very important questions.
1. Who will be hosting this GB? Last time you ended up passing the GB off to some company with a brand new extremely sketchy website that wasnt functioning properly, only had this GB hosted on it and nothing else, and had no other functioning links, even the "privacy policy" link lead to a "File Not Found" page.
2. Where will people be able to discuss this buy if/after it makes it to the GB stage? Last time you quickly closed the IC once the GB opened (which is GH procedure), but then you never opened a GB thread or provided anywhere else to discuss the GB and its status.
3. Will you be accepting paypal for if this hits GB? This may seem like a dumb question, but last time Paypal was NOT accepted as payment.
I'm asking these questions because they are extremely important to the success of the set.
Hi, sorry I missed your replay, I just saw it now.
1, For SA 128K, I will run all buy myself. I know you mean techbuys issue of Mechanist, but until now I can't tell what really happend of techbuys, I can’t contact him either.
2, The GB date has not decided yet, Of course, I will fully seek all your opinions. Sorry for the previous experience made you unhappy, but, you know I 'm a individal designer, all that I can do is to keep the design neat and simple, that can reduce the cost for all the people, more kits is impossible to meet MOQ. A summary of everyone’s opinions does not guarantee a successful group buy.
3.Surely this time I use Palpay, if you feel unsafe of the payment or the procedure anytime you can cancel the payment.
Post by: mgsickler on Mon, 03 December 2018, 20:27:51
Post by: MFahim on Mon, 03 December 2018, 23:36:59
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 04 December 2018, 00:30:00
Pretty sure it should be OBC, no OB for Illustrator. OB is too close to red, which would be Animate (Flash)
[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
Actually, OAS might be even closer, but it is a true orange. Seems like you want a more red-orange.
[attachimg=3]
Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 04 December 2018, 04:13:35
Post by: baoduy23 on Wed, 05 December 2018, 09:04:48
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 05 December 2018, 09:35:56
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:01:55
you guys can still run GB of SP SA? I heard someone said they full of production for 2019?
Not good to wait for a year, but some of us are still willing to take this wait for our favorite design and profile. :))
Post by: hoq on Sun, 09 December 2018, 09:09:25
question... Doesn't the illustrator set have too much red in it? It needs to be more orange, right?
Pretty sure it should be OBC, no OB for Illustrator. OB is too close to red, which would be Animate (Flash)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
Actually, OAS might be even closer, but it is a true orange. Seems like you want a more red-orange.
(Attachment Link)
OBC and OAS look more close to AI icon 's color. haha .
I just followed the feeling of choosing the color.
Post by: hoq on Sun, 09 December 2018, 09:17:09
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Zpp6Gpc/0/2a839c91/O/i-Zpp6Gpc.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dXCQqPf/0/b0029fef/O/i-dXCQqPf.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wFfgL59/0/06765e76/O/i-wFfgL59.jpg)
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 16 December 2018, 11:07:50
Post by: hoq on Thu, 24 January 2019, 18:21:37
Any update on GB timing?
Have not any plan yet. I'm busy at something else now.
:))
Post by: hoq on Thu, 24 January 2019, 18:26:46
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 24 January 2019, 18:47:34
BTW, Its 35th anniversary of Macintosh 128K today.
Nice.
Any update on GB timing?
Have not any plan yet. I'm busy at something else now.
:))
Tell us more! Must know secret hoq project
Post by: hoq on Sun, 10 February 2019, 09:53:31
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-BWqNXm5/0/d74719a2/O/i-BWqNXm5.jpg)
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 10 February 2019, 12:48:17
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 10 February 2019, 13:19:16
Mac kit added!Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-BWqNXm5/0/d74719a2/O/i-BWqNXm5.jpg)
I think you meant (ON) for the side print in the illustrator set, not (NO)
Post by: AaronR on Sun, 10 February 2019, 18:11:26
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 10 February 2019, 23:19:42
Just make the GB happen. :p :p
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 12 February 2019, 08:07:39
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 12 February 2019, 11:30:16
Not sure if SP will be able to do side printing. But now more I look at it, I find that it will be much cleaner and better set w/o the side print. Again just my personal opinion, not asking that set be modified.
SP can do side printing, as stated in the Q&A of the OP. Plus we know they can b/c of SA Retro :)
Post by: hoq on Tue, 12 February 2019, 11:41:34
Spacebar kit has (no) listed also instead of (on) for the side printing
OK, modified! Thanks.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-sdKnKV9/1/4449947a/O/i-sdKnKV9.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-BWqNXm5/1/7618a19f/O/i-BWqNXm5.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Tue, 12 February 2019, 11:43:36
Not sure if SP will be able to do side printing. But now more I look at it, I find that it will be much cleaner and better set w/o the side print. Again just my personal opinion, not asking that set be modified.
That's no problem, I have asked SP , they told me OK.
Just like SA Carbon and Camping, their LED windowed Capslock and Scroll Lock keys also have side print legends. :))
Post by: hoq on Tue, 12 February 2019, 11:44:14
This has my name all over. I'm in.
HH. Thanks bro.
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 12 February 2019, 12:34:33
Post by: Juiceion on Thu, 14 February 2019, 20:43:42
Post by: AaronR on Thu, 14 February 2019, 21:34:22
Post by: hoq on Fri, 15 February 2019, 06:16:49
How much extra would it cost to have the side print icons? I think side print is cool but wouldn't they need to make new moulds for each key?
Not that high with side print icons. I'm not sure if SP need made some molds, but I don't think that will far more high than the normal ones.
Post by: hoq on Fri, 15 February 2019, 06:18:44
Any updated timeline avail?
Maybe I run this in March. :blank:
Post by: hoq on Fri, 15 February 2019, 06:21:11
I think the side printing should be removed from the Mac kit as it doesn’t match the rest of the mods as they lack the side printing
Yes, you said right. I thought people like those MAC option and command icons, so I added.
If I removed those icons, the kit should be some what cheaper I think.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 15 February 2019, 10:57:33
If you decide to take it off, What would be cool is if you could try the mac kit as "novelties" with the proper icons double-shot. I don't think SP has molds for the mac ctrl, opt, and the command icons, hence "novelty". This is a heavily icon focused kit, and I think it would be a awesome if the community had a proper icon mod kit for the SA profile !
Post by: Cods on Sat, 16 February 2019, 08:04:27
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 16 February 2019, 08:14:28
Can't wait. :D
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 16 February 2019, 23:41:53
I hope one day SP will have proper icon mod molds for mac!
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 17 February 2019, 14:27:12
Post by: JPVann on Sun, 17 February 2019, 15:21:11
Post by: hoq on Mon, 18 February 2019, 05:08:46
I personally like the mac kit with the side printing. Its unique, although not in keeping with the theme of graphics applications.
If you decide to take it off, What would be cool is if you could try the mac kit as "novelties" with the proper icons double-shot. I don't think SP has molds for the mac ctrl, opt, and the command icons, hence "novelty". This is a heavily icon focused kit, and I think it would be a awesome if the community had a proper icon mod kit for the SA profile !
I haven't asked SP whether they would like to make new MAC novelties for themself yet, but it's really hard to tell.
As an additional information, the cost of mold for permanent use is not the same with one-time use mold.
If I ask to make novelties keys for myself, which will be charged 50USD for each new mold to me, which just for me for temporary use.
because I pay for them, SP will not use these molds for other designs of any other designers for universal keyset designs.
Unless SP is planning to make their onw MAC novelties, but the long-lasting mold is very high, SP may have their own decision.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 18 February 2019, 05:09:56
Hey hoq, any update on Mechanist :) just wondering if production has started yet
A production slot has been ordered.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 18 February 2019, 07:29:04
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-RzKtvRX/0/dbd1623e/O/i-RzKtvRX.jpg)
Post by: RealLaugh on Tue, 19 February 2019, 15:49:32
Color chips as below:Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-128K/n-SNrKJm/i-RzKtvRX/0/dbd1623e/O/i-RzKtvRX.jpg)
Just out of interest can you tell me how ON and OB are used in the Ai kit? I thought there was only one (ON or OB but not both).
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:01:40
Just out of interest can you tell me how ON and OB are used in the Ai kit? I thought there was only one (ON or OB but not both).
Its there on the OP. Here it is again (I also thought this was hard to find on OP).
KeyColor(LegendColor)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7LR4qZ2/0/80ccdd3e/X3/i-7LR4qZ2-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Tue, 05 March 2019, 02:56:20
I have got the price from SP, I'm planning to run a group-buy on 5th March.
The prices are not that high except Mac kit. SP said that front-print keys are too much to get them done.
It's the first time they handle so many front-print keys.
Post by: AaronR on Tue, 05 March 2019, 03:48:23
I can’t really see selling 50 plus Mac kits to make closer to reasonable
Post by: hoq on Tue, 05 March 2019, 07:48:32
I bet it’s too late to remove the side printing on the Mac kit as that price is a joke
I can’t really see selling 50 plus Mac kits to make closer to reasonable
Yes, I'm a little hesitant to remove the front-print of Mac kit to make it cheaper.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 06 March 2019, 00:21:52
Post by: skaloola on Tue, 12 March 2019, 07:47:56
i'm considering purchasing but that key alone is aggravating to me
Post by: duxbridge on Mon, 05 August 2019, 18:33:04