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Title: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:03:30
We get a lot of recurring questions where newcomers ask for advice on what boards to buy. Rather than cluttering up the main keyboards or new members forum, having a sub-forum under one of those dedicated to asking those questions could be immensely helpful.

We could also have a sticky topic that would serve as a questionnaire for people to provide answers to, things like tactility/switch type, backlighting, form factor, color, keycap material, etc...
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:07:26
On a side note: We should sticky a buying guide or something here. We get the same "what should I buy" questions over and over again, at least one a day :-\

Or have a sub-forum 'What Keyboard Should I Buy?" for anyone looking to buy a keyboard to post in and make a form for new users to fill out with things like what country are you in, full size or tkl, switch type, back lighting or no, what used for etc, etc.

i'm sure the filling of the form could be made mandatory to post in said sub-forum and the entry page/form could also have a glossary explaining the terminology

Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:17:20
Someone here with an online store wrote an online keyboard chooser at one stage.

Anyone got the link?

I don't have all my bookmarks at work, even if the page is still up.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:36:55
I agree, and having a sticky thread like this is an excellent idea :)
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:38:46
Someone here with an online store wrote an online keyboard chooser at one stage.

Anyone got the link?

I don't have all my bookmarks at work, even if the page is still up.

MechanicalKeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/first_mechanical_keyboard.php) has one and then CM Storm is trying to start another one. They're calling it the Keyboard Academy but I can't find it.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:40:49
Someone here with an online store wrote an online keyboard chooser at one stage.

Anyone got the link?

I don't have all my bookmarks at work, even if the page is still up.

MechanicalKeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/first_mechanical_keyboard.php) has one and then CM Storm is trying to start another one. They're calling it the Keyboard Academy but I can't find it.

Their guide is pretty good, but they don't sell Topre, so I say we just start a new sticky thread  :p
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: ping111 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:43:50
I'm impatient.

So, is the KBT PURE with MX Blues a good buy?  I'd get some blank PBT caps too.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:51:42
Someone here with an online store wrote an online keyboard chooser at one stage.

Anyone got the link?

I don't have all my bookmarks at work, even if the page is still up.

MechanicalKeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/first_mechanical_keyboard.php) has one and then CM Storm is trying to start another one. They're calling it the Keyboard Academy but I can't find it.

That's the one I was thinking of!
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 May 2013, 08:07:04
It's time to make this happen!!.....too many what keyboard should i buy threads :P
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 12:34:00
It's time to make this happen!!.....too many what keyboard should i buy threads :P

^^anybody else think this is a good idea?
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: linziyi on Tue, 18 June 2013, 12:34:47
ErgoDox
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 12:35:22
ErgoDox

Seriously? Even I don't spam that bad!
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 June 2013, 16:58:54
You're still going to get a lot of new members asking in the "new members" section what to get.

More work for the mods?
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 17:00:49
You're still going to get a lot of new members asking in the "new members" section what to get.

More work for the mods?

They need something to do. ;)
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: funkymeeba on Tue, 18 June 2013, 17:15:19
SpAmRaY with the whip cracking. ;D

I like the idea of keeping the "recommend me a board" threads out of the Keyboards forum, though. All the juicy technical stuff gets drowned in a sea of repetitive questions. I'm not trying to fault new users, but rather, I think they need a place to bounce ideas around for that first+second board.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 19:32:24
My idea was there could be a standard form filled with all the regular questions so its easier to help people.

Like the what notebook should I buy thread at notebookreview.com

http://forum.notebookreview.com/what-notebook-should-i-buy/29271-what-should-i-buy-form-must-read-before-posting.html
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 21 June 2013, 23:07:54
every attempt so far to contain the "what should i buy" questions to a single thread/forum/anything has failed so far. i have reached my peace with this entropy.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Wed, 26 June 2013, 10:43:22
How do you define "failed" though? I'm not really expecting all questions of this type to end up in the sub-forum, but I'd consider 40-50% a good amount.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 26 June 2013, 10:44:22
the thread still exists. no one has posted in it for about a year.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 June 2013, 10:51:32
the thread still exists. no one has posted in it for about a year.

It would all get lost in one thread, but what if we had a sub-forum under geekhack marketplace entitled "What should I Buy?" Or "Buying Advice"

Then people could be directed to post there and new post not put there asking what to buy could be moved there.

There could also be a template setup for keyboard buying asking basic questions to help people when posting their inquiries.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: JPG on Wed, 26 June 2013, 10:53:48
Maybe we could have something in the likes of a poll where people rate different keyboards. Could be similar to the poll for the switches on another website. This could complement a thread on the plus and minus of each keyboard.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Wed, 26 June 2013, 12:32:33
the thread still exists. no one has posted in it for about a year.

The problem with a thread is that it moves. If no one posts in it, then it falls off the front page and new people aren't aware that it exists. A dedicated forum would be pinned to the forum list and new people would see it automatically on the home page.

It would all get lost in one thread, but what if we had a sub-forum under geekhack marketplace entitled "What should I Buy?" Or "Buying Advice"

Then people could be directed to post there and new post not put there asking what to buy could be moved there.

There could also be a template setup for keyboard buying asking basic questions to help people when posting their inquiries.

I really like this idea. The main point is to have a static link somewhere to direct new users to the appropriate place.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 June 2013, 12:36:00
Tym started a thread like this. It quickly died in about 3 days. We need something stickied, a sub-forum, or just to accept the fact that these questions will always pop up. I'm still not sure what the best option is.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Thu, 01 August 2013, 13:16:18
I still think a separate forum for this is the best way to go. Just look at the "keyboards" forum right now.  Every day we constantly get posts requesting buying assistance or suggestions. A separate forum worked very well for newbies and keycaps. Buying advice is a perfectly logical topic for a forum (especially here).
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 August 2013, 13:34:30
I still think a separate forum for this is the best way to go. Just look at the "keyboards" forum right now.  Every day we constantly get posts requesting buying assistance or suggestions. A separate forum worked very well for newbies and keycaps. Buying advice is a perfectly logical topic for a forum (especially here).

1000x YES!!
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Thimplum on Thu, 08 August 2013, 16:29:17
It's time to make this happen!!.....too many what keyboard should i buy threads :P

^^anybody else think this is a good idea?

YESS! PLEASE!

Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:26:47
This is getting ridiculous. I'm starting to think that the main "keyboards" forum should just be renamed at this point.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:32:22
It's much more difficult to miss a sub forum titled "keyboard purchase suggestions" (or something of that sort) that a stickied post (or some long discussion post that went off the first page).

I'd include "switch" into the title as well, as there are lots of questions about those.  Like " hey guys, Blue or Brown?"   So perhaps a "Keybord / Switch Recommendations".  As dry as that sounds.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: demik on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:35:35
isnt this what a wiki is for?

and a review subforum?

how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:37:00
isnt this what a wiki is for?

and a review subforum?

how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

In an ideal world, there would be no wars or illness, and street pavement would be made of chocolate waffle crust.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: demik on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:39:05
isnt this what a wiki is for?

and a review subforum?

how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

In an ideal world, there would be no wars or illness, and street pavement would be made of chocolate waffle crust.

think of the ants!

no chocolate waffle crust.

chinchilla fur.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:43:15
isnt this what a wiki is for?

and a review subforum?

how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

In an ideal world, there would be no wars or illness, and street pavement would be made of chocolate waffle crust.

Gross, chocolate waffles.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:45:14
isnt this what a wiki is for?

and a review subforum?

how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

In an ideal world, there would be no wars or illness, and street pavement would be made of chocolate waffle crust.

Gross, chocolate waffles.

Shut your **** mouth right now!
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:46:59
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:51:36
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.

So you're saying I cant post when I'm in class anymore?
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:54:55
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.

So you're saying I cant post when I'm in class anymore?

Is only a rule for noobs since we can't seem to warrant the logical sub-forum.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:55:40
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.

So you're saying I cant post when I'm in class anymore?

Proof of ownership / use by accompanying each post with a time-stamped photograph attached as a note.  With a keycap removed for further proof.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: demik on Fri, 09 August 2013, 23:59:09
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.

So you're saying I cant post when I'm in class anymore?

if only
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: The_Ed on Sat, 10 August 2013, 00:41:04
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.

So you're saying I cant post when I'm in class anymore?

if only

I don't post much from 4-11am, maybe you should browse then so as not to see that many of my posts.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 August 2013, 03:02:39
how about we stop holding newbie's hands and making them read first.

Just tell them they can't post on the forum unless they are using a mechanical keyboard.

So you're saying I cant post when I'm in class anymore?

if only

I don't post much from 4-11am, maybe you should browse then so as not to see that many of my posts.

I wish you would post more Ed.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: The_Ed on Sat, 10 August 2013, 03:06:54
Why? I already do it so as to put off doing my homework, which means I'm already posting more than I should...
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 August 2013, 03:14:13
Why? I already do it so as to put off doing my homework, which means I'm already posting more than I should...

In that case use posting as a reward to yourself 'after' you get your work done!
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Thimplum on Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:06:29
For a bit of time there, I would just recommend G81s to everyone. If they actually buy it, then they deserve it.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:08:30
For a bit of time there, I would just recommend G81s to everyone. If they actually buy it, then they deserve it.

I bought a G80 does that count ;)
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: Thimplum on Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:15:57
For a bit of time there, I would just recommend G81s to everyone. If they actually buy it, then they deserve it.

I bought a G80 does that count ;)

NI
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:47:39
It's just frustrating. There's SO much of it in the main keyboard forum it just drowns out the rest of the topics. It's reached a point where it's kind of silly to not have a dedicated space for it. Plus, if we actually had a forum dedicated to buying advice/questions, when I go into that forum I'm prepared to answer the same questions, every time. Also, it'd make it that much easier for newbies to actually browse that forum to see if somebody has asked the same questions they might have, and then they wouldn't have to add yet another post asking the same damn questions ad infinitum
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:32:13
It's just frustrating. There's SO much of it in the main keyboard forum it just drowns out the rest of the topics. It's reached a point where it's kind of silly to not have a dedicated space for it. Plus, if we actually had a forum dedicated to buying advice/questions, when I go into that forum I'm prepared to answer the same questions, every time. Also, it'd make it that much easier for newbies to actually browse that forum to see if somebody has asked the same questions they might have, and then they wouldn't have to add yet another post asking the same damn questions ad infinitum

And I still think some sort of buying guide and/or standard form that would answer some basic questions.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:49:45
That wouldn't prevent people from clogging up the other forums with their questions. Everybody thinks that their needs/questions are unique and special, regardless of whether they are or not.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:53:09
That wouldn't prevent people from clogging up the other forums with their questions. Everybody thinks that their needs/questions are unique and special, regardless of whether they are or not.

I meant have a form/guide as part of the sub forum.
Title: Re: "What should I buy?" sub-form
Post by: daerid on Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:54:45
Oh yeah. Definitely would need that. A stickies topic would work just fine for that