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Title: [IC] KAT Lich - Updated with Vendors | GB Live!
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:18:47

(https://i.imgur.com/L5wEZwi.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ENqCADj.jpg)

GB thread is now live! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104129.0)

Hey there!
As this is my first set, I should introduce myself. I'm eskimojo, and have been in the community for a year or so.
This set is inspired by the character Wiz from Konosuba. In the anime, she is a well-meaning shopkeeper who happens to be undead.
(https://i.redd.it/deeg6ah0h0b11.png)

Profile
I have chosen to design this set for KAT, as its silky smooth PBT surface combined with a comfortable and subtle sculpt makes it my favourite profile by far.
Additionally, they have the capability to do reverse dye sub, as seen in samples for KAT Eternal (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101881.msg2826216#msg2826216) and KAT Oasis (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95419.msg2824738#msg2824738).
The MOQ system for KAT is also unique, and is done in such a way that allows for child kits that may not usually get enough support to be made. I've taken advantage of this by offering multiple international kits and colevrak support.

Colours
This set uses four Pantones as these are preferred for dye sublimation. However, I have backup RALs if those are required.
I have samples of these pantones in-hand, and am happy with them.

(https://i.imgur.com/slBO60y.png)

Google Form to register interest (https://forms.gle/J3ryBwUPWp4hreMY9)

Currently I have been updating my progress in Emir's Discord server (https://discord.gg/8UFazpX), as he kindly let me have a channel there. However, I may create other methods of communication (and this thread will be kept updated, of course).

Kits
(https://i.imgur.com/QjO7H70.png)
Base alphas for ANSI, ISO US and UK.

(https://i.imgur.com/iMFDR2t.png)
Modifiers for boards sized 60% to TKL. Includes ISO, tsangan, HHKB, and most others.
This also includes an R3 up arrow, as this was a feature from MT3 I particularly enjoyed and wanted for KAT.

(https://i.imgur.com/TjLDz3I.png)
Coverage for those inclined for smaller boards.

(https://i.imgur.com/vxH7Lxv.png)
For those who like their board a little more gridlike.

(https://i.imgur.com/gob3Nb8.png)
Covers ergo boards and Boardwalk. (there are questions regarding 2u sculpt in the interest check form)

(https://i.imgur.com/veT5sv7.png)
Covers ergo boards and Boardwalk. (there are questions regarding 2u sculpt in the interest check form)

(https://i.imgur.com/jJ6yoSt.png)
Support for those who like their boards big and beautiful.

(https://i.imgur.com/kNRNfdL.png)
Add some magic to your board with these icons. Accent arrows also included.

(https://i.imgur.com/ljn5rxs.png)
For those who like their spacebars accented (or smaller). Includes extra B, for Alice users.

(https://i.imgur.com/Oi5eQOk.png)
Adds coverage for northern international languages. Essentially a NorDe+ kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/FKDzip3.png)
Adds coverage for those further south, covering both Spanish and Portuguese layouts along with Italian.

(https://i.imgur.com/iXduysX.png)
Coverage for AZERTY users (including France, Belgium and Northwest Africa).

(https://i.imgur.com/9v5eMt4.png)
Coverage for Dvorak and Colemak derived layouts.

Vendors

US - www.novelkeys.xyz
EU - www.mykeyboard.eu
Asia - www.zfrontier.com
Canada - www.deskhero.ca
Australia - www.switchkeys.com.au/
Ukraine/Russia - https://funkeys.com.ua/

Prices
(https://i.imgur.com/36JiRXk.png)
(Boxes left blank will be filled as pricing is confirmed for each vendor.)

KAT Lich will launch on the 7th of January 2020!

Renders

Iron165 SE (Smith + Rune)
(https://i.imgur.com/IJJed1q.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x0EkNCQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/uVExd0Q.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Iy0Dc62.jpg)

Iron165 FE (Smith + Rune)
(https://i.imgur.com/30OsTnW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DCaWd9D.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Wl69gfF.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/2TpV5mz.jpg)

M0llY (TheKeyCompany)
(https://i.imgur.com/V7KFrqc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OVV1GQs.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/o93NJZy.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/NaSYJ1A.jpg)

SP-111 (TheKeyCompany)
(https://i.imgur.com/opENMaH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7rcwSKE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6wjd2HZ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/QAUzdGa.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/bgfalcR.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/gzwb7em.jpg)

Fjell (Mekanisk)
(https://i.imgur.com/3l5wJwm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/irofL41.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/WWOkOoR.jpg)

M65-A (Rama Works)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lldb88H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mKWiq1R.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Gx7QRNx.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/dkj0rU2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xN9hBMn.jpg)

M60-A (Rama Works)
(https://i.imgur.com/sZlPAc3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OCb8RYf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/OTLrqyy.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Y0OuujF.jpg)

Tofu (KBDfans)
(https://i.imgur.com/QQdSYPf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UgVDzHo.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UFJ727z.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Vk5Rrgw.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/3sNyPpk.png)(https://i.imgur.com/vhwTF5k.jpg)

To Do

Metal magic circle cap? :eek:
Find time to run deskmat.

Signatures
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Special Thanks

Minterly/Nat and the neccsock crew - General advice (especially with kitting) along with the incredible support from the whole crew (love you guys). Special mention goes to bhk, who was a lifesaver for getting hold of Pantones. (Grinsepo also suggested lowercase legends, which turned out great)
Rensuya - Support since the beginning (this set was originally conceived in the Discord channel for Ren's set PBT Aqua Goddess (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102411.0)) along with advice and feedback.
Manzel - Assisted with colour conversion very early in the process, along with providing the excellent renders for M65, M60 and Tofu.
DepletedVespene/Miguel - Tireless feedback, and his awesome resources for international kits (http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/).
OneCreativeMind - Feedback on the vector art in the set. Also created the arrow icons, which fit perfectly with the font.
MKUltra - Assistance and feedback on the Ergo kit.
MetallicCharles - Awesome renders for Iron165, M0llY, and SP-111.
Yuliia of mykeyboard.eu - Support and enthusiasm!

Changelog

2019-12-31 - Added final GB date and prices for US and EU.
2019-12-11 - Added F13 to mods, and added vendors + GB month.
2019-12-07 - Added gold accent arrows to novelties.
2019-12-05 - Adjusted ergo legends to prevent duplicates, added more size labels, and made 1.25u spacebar convex.
2019-11-28 - Split 40s and Ortho kits, and made all 2u keys in Ergo convex.
2019-11-19 - Added Ergo Legends kit! Tweaked legends to be smaller and less bold.
2019-11-14 - Added R2 1.25u and 1.5u Ctrl to 40s/Ortho.
2019-11-09 - More renders. Added missing key to Colevrak+ kit. Added more blanks to Ergo, to cover more Boardwalk layouts.
2019-11-01 - Removed duplicate key from South kit.
2019-10-31 - Initial IC post.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: jordowag on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:19:59

my good friend eski
can we move iso enter into its own kit? :))
reminds me of my college colors (go huskies) :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Minterly on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:20:14

*breathing intensifies*

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:23:00

Allllllllllllllll innnnnnnnnnnnn !!!!!!!!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Langelandia on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:23:22

All in. Proud of you.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: stuey138 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:26:14

Is this gmk taro R2 in Kat?

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Bhk1004 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:26:55

Cant wait to put these on my Silent Browns build.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Rensuya on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:27:15

Looking good bud! :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:29:52

Long live the superior MOQ system. I see coleverak, I'm in for at least that + the base kit, but most likely more. I'm not even a weeb, know what Konosuba is, or even know how to pronounce it, but the colorways look fresh af :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Helpingly on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:34:38

Personally not the biggest fan of the colors but the theme is dope. Also, your decision to go with lowercase legends is really cool. Not for me, but best of luck with the set!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: TheOnlyBadMax on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:38:59

yo what dose [IC] means?

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Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:40:46

Quote from: TheOnlyBadMax on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:38:59

yo what dose [IC] means?

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Interest Check

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Popopro on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:41:16

Quote from: TheOnlyBadMax on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:38:59

yo what dose [IC] means?

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A check for interest.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:51:50

I really like the colors. When you have time, could we see the Pantone samples you have in a coupla different lights? Thank you!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:01:48

Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:51:50

I really like the colors. When you have time, could we see the Pantone samples you have in a coupla different lights? Thank you!

Sure! My phone's colour accuracy isn't too great I think, but here's a couple pictures I had taken previously.
(https://i.imgur.com/L4ON33u.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Sr8Gthc.jpg)

I'll work on finding a way to take better photos by the time samples from Keyreative are a factor ;)

(I actually brought these to the recent MKUK Leeds meetup, though I'm not sure how many noticed)

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: superkuku on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:06:29

Nice colorway, but the mod letters are too small compare to the alphas. The font can be more magical, something like these:
https://www.fontspace.com/gunarta/wizzta
https://www.fontspace.com/sorkin-type/metamorphous

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:08:41

Thank you!

I sorta like these types of photos better as they’re regular lighting. Wanted to see how purple 4126c was in lower light and it’s still purple (vs GMK phantom or 4119c which get to be nearly black quite readily)

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:08:55

Another Konosuba set, I think it's a sign that I should watch the show. I started it, got 2 episodes in then stopped. Guess I can pick it back up now! :) Great set!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:10:20

How can (ePBT) Aqua (Goddess) even compete? _{(inb4 there's a keyset for every Konosuba character and Megumin is on G20 because DSA just isn't flat enough)}

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:14:27

Quote from: superkuku on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:06:29

Nice colorway, but the mod letters are too small compare to the alphas. The font can be more magical, something like these:
https://www.fontspace.com/gunarta/wizzta
https://www.fontspace.com/sorkin-type/metamorphous

Legend size is definitely something I can tweak :)
I did try a few more magical fonts, but decided that a simpler font looked better for keycaps. The current font, Signika, hits a good balance with some flair while still keeping it clean (in my opinion).

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: nyry43 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:21:31

Very cool!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: gMit on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:32:27

Love the theme.

Any chance of uppercase legends? What was the thought behind lowercase?

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:38:38

Quote from: gMit on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:32:27

Love the theme.

Any chance of uppercase legends? What was the thought behind lowercase?

Unlikely, I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with lowercase. :)

The decision to go with lowercase legends mainly came out a desire to try something new and to avoid the standard SA ALL CAPS style of legends. That said, I also believe it suits the character as Wiz is fairly soft-spoken.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 31 October 2019, 18:41:42

Quote from: eskimojo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 17:38:38

The decision to go with lowercase legends mainly came out a desire to try something new and to avoid the standard SA ALL CAPS style of legends. That said, I also believe it suits the character as Wiz is fairly soft-~~spoken~~.

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Hopefully KAT profile pairs well with ghost blacks

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 31 October 2019, 19:24:58

BB this look so good. Glad to finally see this in IC. Looks really good :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: vincevelorn on Thu, 31 October 2019, 19:39:27

Super into this set, diggin the variety of the keys in the sets as well. Excited to see where this goes!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Agilr on Thu, 31 October 2019, 21:26:41

Unsure how I feel about lower case legends, but dig the set otherwise! :p

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: CF73 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 00:48:46

i like anything purple :> also love that you included backspace novelties.
separating all the intl kits seems like a bold move, curious to see how it turns out. GL! :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: enome on Fri, 01 November 2019, 01:07:46

ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!

POGGERs

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 01 November 2019, 08:31:38

Not feeling the yellow but I think I can work with it

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: QuickDelat on Fri, 01 November 2019, 09:38:50

BE Azerty support HYPE!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 01 November 2019, 11:37:43

You did a great job color matching the artwork. I don't know anything about Wiz, but from the images I've seen, your color choices look spot on. Also, from what I see in the images, Wiz has some monumental mammary glands

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:01:06

Quote from: pixelpusher on Fri, 01 November 2019, 11:37:43

You did a great job color matching the artwork. I don't know anything about Wiz, but from the images I've seen, your color choices look spot on. Also, from what I see in the images, Wiz has some monumental mammary glands

Yeah, but those produce spoiled milk. She is undead, after all.

(sorry, I'll see myself out)

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:39:38

Quote from: depletedvespene on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:01:06

Quote from: pixelpusher on Fri, 01 November 2019, 11:37:43
You did a great job color matching the artwork. I don't know anything about Wiz, but from the images I've seen, your color choices look spot on. Also, from what I see in the images, Wiz has some monumental mammary glands

Yeah, but those produce spoiled milk. She is undead, after all.

(sorry, I'll see myself out)

Anime is so weird...

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: LoliKnight on Fri, 01 November 2019, 15:30:40

Interested!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 01 November 2019, 15:38:41

Quote from: KingOfMemes on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:39:38

Anime is so weird...

I don't think the anime goes into detail on her undead status (let alone the status of any particular biological function), but maybe the light novels do.

Japanese animation can make anything cute, even zombies, so 'immortal', and 'cold body temperature' are basically the extent of her symptoms.

I was just checking the interwebs to see if I missed anything and learned she is/was 20 years old...

anime is so weird

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 02 November 2019, 09:59:27

I love sets that are just a little bit quirky, like in this case the alpha legends. Definitely would be in 👍

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: harlekein on Sat, 02 November 2019, 15:01:10

Please, let go of this meme of combinging ortho and 40s. If you must combine, combine ortho with ergo and put 40s with regular mods. Thanks.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Emir on Sat, 02 November 2019, 15:15:24

Woop Manzel! Good stuff on taking a more creative route with the renders! I Love seeing new scenes built!

Waiting for GMK Lich. ;)

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:04:04

Quote from: harlekein on Sat, 02 November 2019, 15:01:10

Please, let go of this meme of combinging ortho and 40s. If you must combine, combine ortho with ergo and put 40s with regular mods. Thanks.

I must admit I saw this complaint coming, but find it rather odd. 40s seems to share more keys with ortho than ortho does with ergo and 40s does with regular mods. Can you explain your reasoning?

Quote from: Emir on Sat, 02 November 2019, 15:15:24

Woop Manzel! Good stuff on taking a more creative route with the renders! I Love seeing new scenes built!

Waiting for GMK Lich. ;)

Yeah, Manzel's done a great job here <3

You may be waiting a long while for GMK Lich, considering my dislike of GMK keycaps :-[

That said, I'd be interested in a possible PBT cherry profile run if KAT is successful (and once I know a bit more about the available PBT cherry manus).

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: ref on Sun, 03 November 2019, 10:21:27

base, mods, spacebar
minila user satisfied...

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 03 November 2019, 18:51:18

can we have a wrist rest in the shape of....nevermind

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: vincevelorn on Sun, 03 November 2019, 19:57:48

Quote from: Mcnos on Sun, 03 November 2019, 18:51:18

can we have a wrist rest in the shape of....nevermind

No no, go on

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: harlekein on Mon, 04 November 2019, 05:01:25

Quote from: eskimojo on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:04:04

Quote from: harlekein on Sat, 02 November 2019, 15:01:10
Please, let go of this meme of combinging ortho and 40s. If you must combine, combine ortho with ergo and put 40s with regular mods. Thanks.
I must admit I saw this complaint coming, but find it rather odd. 40s seems to share more keys with ortho than ortho does with ergo and 40s does with regular mods. Can you explain your reasoning?

The problem is that more than half of the keys in 40s are of no use to ortho users and the kit is missing thumb keys for split orthos with thumb clusters. Merging ortho with Ergo kit solves that. It also provides a great option for larger ortho boards such as boardwalk.

(https://i.imgur.com/lFuKGuF.png)

The other way around, many of the 1u keys are worthless to 40s users. 40s kits have much more common with regular mods than with ortho mods.

The only reason these kits ever got thrown together was due to the huge MOQ of GMK and traditionalists wanting to support numpad and ISO in base and not 40s. Outside of GMK it makes little sense to merge these kits. I'd say even within GMK it makes more sense to put 40s in base. But that's another discussion entirely and we won't know what to do with ortho.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: MdotMaxson on Sat, 09 November 2019, 08:35:26

The teenager in me sees Lich and can think 1 thing and only 1 thing. The Lich King and Warcraft 3 beta keys.... although that would probably be a black and blue theme.

I’m not familiar with this Undead pretty little lady but there is an ergo kit and where ergo goes Er I go. I’m in. Great job, I dig the colors and the presentation. I will stay tuned in.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Sat, 09 November 2019, 16:53:03

New renders are in, thanks to MetallicCharles!

I've added them to the OP, but here's a few of my favourites.

(https://i.imgur.com/x0EkNCQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/DCaWd9D.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/NaSYJ1A.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/7rcwSKE.jpg)

I'm also considering tweaking the legend size and weight, and will be playing around with those (will likely make alphas a little smaller, and overall legends a little less bold). I'll report back if I decide to change anything.

Vendors are still in the works - I plan to start a discussion with zFrontier within the next week.

Providing that works out, I may also have something else to talk about ;) Will have to see.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 09 November 2019, 17:18:45

Awesome that you are offering a Colevrak kit!

I noticed the kit picture is missing "J" on KAT-R3. This key is needed to support Colemak.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Sat, 09 November 2019, 17:24:09

Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 09 November 2019, 17:18:45

Awesome that you are offering a Colevrak kit!

I noticed the kit picture is missing "J" on KAT-R3. This key is needed to support Colemak.

Had it in my original KLE but it somehow didn't make it in when I was making the graphic. I'll add it, thanks!

Edit: Fixed!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Sat, 09 November 2019, 17:39:09

Looks really nice on molly and the SP-111. MetallicCharles always kills it with the renders and makes me want to spend money...

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Rexcramer on Sun, 10 November 2019, 12:42:25

Very excited for this set, I especially love the gold keys and font that add a little spice to this set. Magic circle brass cap would be a life saver aswell since I missed the DSA Magical Girl's one ( Maybe you can hit up Salvun for those =] )
Lowercase legends are also a nice touch. Would be interested to see how this looks on a rose gold board.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Quinella on Mon, 18 November 2019, 17:16:52

Daily Clack for Australia Proxy!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 19 November 2019, 04:47:28

New stuff!

Introducing the Ergo Legends kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/jdRuB1K.png)

IC responses for legends vs blanks was pretty close to 50/50, so I will likely be offering both.

Be sure to update your response to the IC form if you intend to go for this instead. (I believe you should be able to edit your responses, let me know if you can't)

I've also been working on tweaking legends, as I've received feedback (that I agree with) that the legends are currently too bold and the alphas seemed too large. I feel this change aids readability, and doesn't lose the aesthetic of the lowercase legends. Some kit comparisons are below:

Old
(https://i.imgur.com/hI6ifak.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/E3WCsp1.png)

New
(https://i.imgur.com/QjO7H70.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/iMFDR2t.png)

Some renders with this change are in the works, and I will update this thread once those are ready. Let me know what you think in the meantime!

Quote from: harlekein on Mon, 04 November 2019, 05:01:25

Quote from: eskimojo on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:04:04
Quote from: harlekein on Sat, 02 November 2019, 15:01:10
Please, let go of this meme of combinging ortho and 40s. If you must combine, combine ortho with ergo and put 40s with regular mods. Thanks.
I must admit I saw this complaint coming, but find it rather odd. 40s seems to share more keys with ortho than ortho does with ergo and 40s does with regular mods. Can you explain your reasoning?

The problem is that more than half of the keys in 40s are of no use to ortho users and the kit is missing thumb keys for split orthos with thumb clusters. Merging ortho with Ergo kit solves that. It also provides a great option for larger ortho boards such as boardwalk.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lFuKGuF.png)

The other way around, many of the 1u keys are worthless to 40s users. 40s kits have much more common with regular mods than with ortho mods.

The only reason these kits ever got thrown together was due to the huge MOQ of GMK and traditionalists wanting to support numpad and ISO in base and not 40s. Outside of GMK it makes little sense to merge these kits. I'd say even within GMK it makes more sense to put 40s in base. But that's another discussion entirely and we won't know what to do with ortho.

I'm still considering this change, and have added a question in the IC form regarding this.

Quote from: Rexcramer on Sun, 10 November 2019, 12:42:25

Very excited for this set, I especially love the gold keys and font that add a little spice to this set. Magic circle brass cap would be a life saver aswell since I missed the DSA Magical Girl's one ( Maybe you can hit up Salvun for those =] )
Lowercase legends are also a nice touch. Would be interested to see how this looks on a rose gold board.

I'd also love to get a brass cap made - will have to reach out to Salvun for sure ;)

Quote from: BlindAssassin111 on Sat, 09 November 2019, 17:39:09

Looks really nice on molly and the SP-111. MetallicCharles always kills it with the renders and makes me want to spend money...

I'm so excited for the SP-111! Will have to get e-white and recreate the renders :p

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: stuey138 on Tue, 19 November 2019, 05:02:07

Wow, so nice to see you accepting so much feedback

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: MdotMaxson on Thu, 21 November 2019, 00:33:16

KAT Alpha Ergo Kit with this GB eye eh eh?

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: SUB01 on Fri, 22 November 2019, 14:23:04

eski ne pricing avail? always rooting btw

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 22 November 2019, 14:24:43

Quote from: SUB01 on Fri, 22 November 2019, 14:23:04

eski ne pricing avail? always rooting btw

None yet, still tweaking kits before I start communication with zF and Keyreative.

Thanks for your support! <3

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: Sam_Kim on Fri, 22 November 2019, 15:18:35

S E X Y. Please I need this.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 28 November 2019, 17:33:46

After some deliberation, I've decided to split 40s and Ortho. This allows me to better specialise each kit to the board type's needs.

The current kits are below (thanks to the guys over at KAT Space Cadet (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103480.0), for the kits these are based on), but I'm very open to changes. Let me know what you'd like added!

(https://i.imgur.com/TjLDz3I.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/vxH7Lxv.png)

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 28 November 2019, 18:08:54

Also, following feedback from the IC form, I've decided to make all 2u keys in the Ergo kits convex. This should hopefully be more comfortable for both ergo and Boardwalk users :D

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: MdotMaxson on Wed, 04 December 2019, 01:59:48

If I’m not mistaken there are now three KAT sets all for charectors from this anime. I’m glad I’m not a die hard fan of this, and better not watch it so I don’t become one. Then I’d have to buy every set

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 04 December 2019, 02:07:58

Quote from: MdotMaxson on Wed, 04 December 2019, 01:59:48

If I’m not mistaken there are now three KAT sets all for charectors from this anime. I’m glad I’m not a die hard fan of this, and better not watch it so I don’t become one. Then I’d have to buy every set

I wonder why they are all weeb kits. I'll be partaking in all of them out of colemak desperation, but yeah, I don't know what half of these people are saying in these threads lol.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich
Post by: eskimojo on Wed, 11 December 2019, 10:17:30

Exciting updates!

I've now been able to confirm vendors in all regions, and they are listed below:

US - www.novelkeys.xyz
EU - www.mykeyboard.eu
Asia - www.zfrontier.com
Canada - www.deskhero.ca
Australia - www.switchkeys.com.au/
Ukraine/Russia - https://funkeys.com.ua/

We are currently aiming for an early January launch!

I've also begun the process of quoting kits with Keyreative, so will be aiming to finalise kits in the next two weeks. If there's any changes you want to see made to any kits, this is your last chance to let me know ;)

Unfortunately due to the short time between IC and GB, there won't be time before GB to get samples confirmed. That said, I am confident that Keyreative's colour matching should be good enough that there won't be much of a delay confirming samples after GB. (KAT Milkshake samples were confirmed on their second try, for example.) My Pantones are listed in the OP and pictures of my Pantones in person are earlier in the thread.

I've also had some renders made by the amazing Manzel to demonstrate the smaller tweaked legends. These have been added to the OP, but I'll also link them here!

(https://i.imgur.com/3l5wJwm.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/irofL41.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/WWOkOoR.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich - Updated with Vendors | GB January!
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 30 December 2019, 08:48:39

Hi all,

Just to keep you posted, we're still waiting on quotes from Keyreative unfortunately. :( As soon as those are in, we will be able to solidify a GB date and work out prices.

We're still aiming for an early January launch.

As soon as I know anything new, I'll update here :)

In the meantime, I've updated all of Manzel's renders in the OP with the new legends - be sure to check them out!

Edit: Quotes have now arrived! I have passed these on to my vendors, and will update with more information once I have it.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich - Updated with Vendors | GB 7th January!
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 31 December 2019, 17:40:37

Big news!

Quotes are in, and the prices for the US and EU have been confirmed. These can be found below. Pricing information from other proxies is in the works, and I will update the OP once I receive these.

(https://i.imgur.com/k5A9LQL.png)

Overall I'm very pleased - the amount of compatibility packed in alphas + mods for under $100, for example, is something I'm proud of.

Also, let me stress that the kit MOQs are suggested - KAT's MOQ system is more complex, and if an overall MOQ (based on the amount of units each key is worth) is reached, all kits will be made. For more information on this, I defer to this well worded comment (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103203.msg2829885#msg2829885) from my friend Minterly.

This also means we've been able to solidify a GB launch date! KAT Lich will become available from the 7th of January 2020.

Unfortunately due to timing issues, the deskmat will not be able to run alongside the keycaps. That said, I would still like to run this deskmat at a later date.

KAT Lich is a week away :eek:

Have a great new year guys!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Lich - Updated with Vendors | GB 7th January!
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:40:15

GB thread is LIVE! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104129.0)