[GB] DCS Delftware | Keycaps shipping to vendors!

[Zephyraeon]

DCS Delftware
Based on porcelain art

Inspired by ceramic art famous in the Dutch city of Delft. The colours, novelties and sublegends are based on real hand-painted ceramic artwork, with over 25 unique sublegends designed to make your keyboard stand out.

The beautiful, delicate sublegends give the set a more human feel, bringing more warmth and life to a classy set.

Renders + fonts used are a representation of the final product but are not 100% accurate due to limitations. Renders are done with Cherry profile caps, with a similar but not identical font. Font during production will be Gorton as used for DCS Red Alert and DCS Yuri.

This set will run in dye-sublimated PBT in DCS profile by Signature Plastics (SP) to allow for many unique sublegends without increased tooling cost. GB fulfillment is estimated to occur Q4 2021.

Dedicated discord channels to discuss the set here, courtesy of NZ streamer Epsilon Keyboards.

Vendors + Pricing:

Vendor

Region

Base kit

Novelties

Numpad

RAMA

Deskmats

Project Keyboard

NA

$140USD

$39USD

$34USD

$56USD

$17USD

MyKeyboard.eu

EU

€141EUR

€41EUR

€36EUR

€56EUR

€20EUR

ILUMKB

SEA

$202SGD

$56SGD

$49SGD

$80SGD

$27SGD

Daily Clack

AU/NZ

$202AUD

$56AUD

$49AUD

$80.70AUD

$27AUD

AlphaKeys.ca

Canada

$140USD

$39USD

$34USD

$56USD

$17USD

ProtoTypist

UK

£121GBP

£33GBP

£29GBP

£48GBP

£18GBP

zFrontier

China

¥1088CNY

¥275CNY

¥242CNY

¥375CNY

¥120CNY

zFrontier

Global

$185USD

$43USD

$37USD

$58USD

$20USD

Kits:
Disclaimer: Renders + fonts used are a representation of the final product but are not 100% accurate due to limitations. Renders are done with Cherry profile caps, with a similar but not identical font. Font during production will be Gorton as used for DCS Red Alert and DCS Yuri.

Base kit | $140USD | 250 MOQ


Numpad kit | $34USD | 100 MOQ


Novelties kit | $39USD | 100 MOQ


Deskmats - $17USD each
We have three deskmat designs for Delftware:

Pattern


Inverse Pattern


Place Setting


RAMA cap | $56USD | 100 MOQ
PVD Brass keycap in DCS R1 profile





Board renders

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Bean - Kingk22




Silver En Dash - Finderworks




PC Tengu - Finderworks




Navy Constellation - AEboards

Keycap samples and colours

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The base kit and dye-sub PBT are using SP's default PBT colour WAN. The dye-sub legends in the sample above closely match Pantone 2726C. Based on responses from the IC form this will be the final blue.

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Big thank you to all that have helped, and the lovely vendors who have supported this GB. Kingk22 (again) for renders and emotional support, Agilr for feedback on the design and colour matching, Would for advice on typography and fonts, Gok for advice on designing a dyesub keycap set and general design tips, Epsilon for general support and letting me piggyback off your discord channel, Peaches for emotional support, and the Finder Works and NZ discord groups and IC form fillers for general feedback. Couldn't have done it without you guys <3

Click here for discord link

[paulgali]

From one DCS fan to another, I hope this is a success. DCS PBT is expensive, but so, so worth it. GLWGB!

[acitrin]

Congrats, Zeph! I’m so happy that this project is coming to fruition

[Puddsy]

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[treeleaf64]

Hi there I  will buy it if I have enough money  I really want some dcs

[vanyll]

Congrats on the GB! Spent much too much on this one...
Looking forward to trying DCS for the first time with this set.

[Mikhail]

Thin?

[Rob27shred]

So in on this, getting a base + numpad as soon as my next check hits on mon! Congrats on getting this to GB & I hope it is a smashing success!

[Zephyraeon]

Thanks everyone for the support! I've also spent too much on this so know the feeling

Thin?

DCS is thinner than GMK, yes, but quality is still there. I've had some discussions about the thinness of DCS on the Delftware discord channels and my general thoughts are that thin vs thick isn't really a great measure of quality, as long as the plastic quality is high enough, and it isn't so thin it'll chip easily. I didn't decide to go for DCS until I'd received the samples shown in the post above, because I wanted to be sure that Delftware would be a high quality set. Most of the keycaps I currently own are GMK so I definitely understand quality concerns - it just didn't make sense to use GMK for Delftware given the additional cost of all the custom sublegends especially considering it's primarily a blue on white set (perfect for dye-sub). I can't speak for the sound profile of DCS as I haven't got enough caps on me for a full board, but in terms of dye-sub and keycap quality I've been convinced.

Here's a photo of the underside of my Delftware samples vs GMK just in case anyone is curious:

[Puddsy]

a lot of people **** on DCS for no reason other than because everyone else ****s on it

don't knock it till you try it

[Mikhail]

Thanks everyone for the support! I've also spent too much on this so know the feeling

Thin?

DCS is thinner than GMK, yes, but quality is still there. I've had some discussions about the thinness of DCS on the Delftware discord channels and my general thoughts are that thin vs thick isn't really a great measure of quality, as long as the plastic quality is high enough, and it isn't so thin it'll chip easily. I didn't decide to go for DCS until I'd received the samples shown in the post above, because I wanted to be sure that Delftware would be a high quality set. Most of the keycaps I currently own are GMK so I definitely understand quality concerns - it just didn't make sense to use GMK for Delftware given the additional cost of all the custom sublegends especially considering it's primarily a blue on white set (perfect for dye-sub). I can't speak for the sound profile of DCS as I haven't got enough caps on me for a full board, but in terms of dye-sub and keycap quality I've been convinced.

Here's a photo of the underside of my Delftware samples vs GMK just in case anyone is curious:

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a lot of people **** on DCS for no reason other than because everyone else ****s on it

don't knock it till you try it

I love DCS profile more than Cherry, and i have DCS CC&G, White alphas, midnight modiefers, few old thin sets. I use it with silent switches, but with normal switches the sound is too high and annoying. Now i purchase a thick DCS from WYSE PCE ansi. It must be killer)

[alphabirth]

Yes!  Let's goo!    I've been waiting for this one for a while.  Any signature banner avail?

[pastelnostalgia]

Love this set. Planning to hop on next week!

Is there a matching USB cable?

[dvorcol]

Edit: no Deskmat MOQs

[Zephyraeon]

Love this set. Planning to hop on next week!

Is there a matching USB cable?

No USB cable collabs unfortunately, I spent all my effort pre-GB trying (and failing) to find artisan collabs, but any white cable should work!

Yes!  Let's goo!    I've been waiting for this one for a while.  Any signature banner avail?

Good idea, I've created a signature banner and added it to the main post:

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Thanks everyone for your support so far. I'm so grateful to everyone that has enjoyed Delftware, it means a lot to me that people appreciate the effort I've put into the design. If we keep up the week 1 momentum we should be able to hit MOQ! Fingers crossed

[justinhigley]

Consider trying an underrated profile. Consider joining a GB where you receive product in the same year you ordered. Consider Delftware!

[dvorcol]

Edit: no Deskmat MOQs

[Puddsy]

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ok actually placed my order now hopefully this can make it, this is one of the cooler sets i've seen in recent memory

[vanyll]

Consider trying an underrated profile. Consider joining a GB where you receive product in the same year you ordered. Consider Delftware!

Ok guys, seriously: no slacking now! Join this truly unique set today!

[Findecanor]

I like DCS PBT.

Are the short space bars convex (space bar profile) or concave (Shift key shape) ?
Which colour code is the white plastic?

[Puddsy]

I like DCS PBT.

Are the short space bars convex (space bar profile) or concave (Shift key shape) ?
Which colour code is the white plastic?

I don't believe SP has convex molds for short spacebars in DCS, but I've been wrong before.

It says in the OP that the white is WAN.

[Zephyraeon]

I like DCS PBT.

Are the short space bars convex (space bar profile) or concave (Shift key shape) ?
Which colour code is the white plastic?

There are no convex short spacebars in DCS unfortunately. I was looking into offering these but tooling costs were very high (thousands of dollars) and with current sales there's no way I can afford to subsidise them. We need to sell about 1k base kits for it to get to a point where it is viable.

And as Puddsy said, white is WAN, so if you want to get other keys made from SP (e.g. in the future if they make DCS convex spacebars moulds) you will have that option. I'll definitely be taking it up if it ever happens.

[dvorcol]

[tex_live_utility]

Buy this, you ****s!!

[Zephyraeon]

Got some real life photos of the samples on a couple boards so you can see how they look. Note these photos were taken on an iPhone 7 and have not been edited/colour balanced. The photo of the samples in the original post are most accurate colourwise.

Note: The line thickness for the sublegends has been thinned so the alphas + sublegends will have consistent line thickness. The colour + font + sizing in these photos will not change for the final product.

Indoor, natural lighting, on an e-white board with brass accent. Blue looks a bit darker in this photo than it is.


Outdoor in the shade, natural lighting, on a silver board with polished SS plate. Blue looks a bit lighter in this photo than it is.

[Puddsy]

Got some real life photos of the samples on a couple boards so you can see how they look. Note these photos were taken on an iPhone 7 and have not been edited/colour balanced. The photo of the samples in the original post are most accurate colourwise.

Note: The line thickness for the sublegends has been thinned so the alphas + sublegends will have consistent line thickness. The colour + font + sizing in these photos will not change for the final product.

Indoor, natural lighting, on an e-white board with brass accent. Blue looks a bit darker in this photo than it is.

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Outdoor in the shade, natural lighting, on a silver board with polished SS plate. Blue looks a bit lighter in this photo than it is.

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yo this is super nice

[dvorcol]

[andreiborisov]

This is a good set to invest in, btw. It will cost a fortune on mm due to rarity and uniqueness.

[rpiguy9907]

It is possible that this will make MOQ if each vendor orders enough extras, but its looking sketchy! Gonna be a nail-biter.

[treeleaf64]

Treeleaf has purchased. Good job treeleaf

What's lead time on SP atm by the way?

[Puddsy]

This is a good set to invest in, btw. It will cost a fortune on mm due to rarity and uniqueness.

that would imply that people want to buy it in the first place

which they should, but that's beside the point

[dvorcol]

[Zephyraeon]

Treeleaf has purchased. Good job treeleaf

What's lead time on SP atm by the way?

We've been quoted a timeframe of about 3 months from GB end for the sets to ship from SP (assuming no other delays), so there's a chance these will arrive Q3, but we've estimated for Q4 to account for any unexpected delays.

It is possible that this will make MOQ if each vendor orders enough extras, but its looking sketchy! Gonna be a nail-biter.

I'm expecting that all kits will be made through vendors buying out extras, this hasn't been confirmed though - waiting to see what the final order numbers look like. The RAMA cap is most at risk, as vendors don't tend to buy too many extras.

[grimis]

How is the turn around time so fast when SA sets are over a year? Does the profile actually make a difference? I would have figured it's all in the same queue. I'm just curious and ignorant to it all.

[Zephyraeon]

How is the turn around time so fast when SA sets are over a year? Does the profile actually make a difference? I would have figured it's all in the same queue. I'm just curious and ignorant to it all.

I'm not 100% certain but given I've seen similar 3-month timeframes for SP's DSS and DSA GBs I can only assume that SP's queues are dependent on profile. Not sure why that is but it seems like as long as you're not ordering SA from SP the turn around is very fast.

[Puddsy]

I can only assume that SP's queues are dependent on profile.

been known for a while that this is the case, i've seen the DCS queue as low as 4 weeks when the SA queue was over a year

[dvorcol]

I can only assume that SP's queues are dependent on profile.

been known for a while that this is the case, i've seen the DCS queue as low as 4 weeks when the SA queue was over a year

It could also have to do with material.  These arePBT with dye sub legends, while SA is dual-shot ABS.

[switchnollie]

This is cool I haven't seen a DCS set in a minute.

a lot of people **** on DCS for no reason other than because everyone else ****s on it

don't knock it till you try it

Yeah, a lot of the DCS haters haven't even tried it and just join in with the others.
I've seen someone say it's the same as OEM which isn't even close 😌

[keebnewb]

I got in on this set at the last minute. Excited to try DCS! I love the creative use of sublegends in this set 

[Zephyraeon]

Thanks everyone for the support! I've asked the vendors to close store listings so don't expect Delftware to be available for too much longer.

I'm aiming to keep regular updates in this thread so everyone knows how it's progressing. Will have updated order numbers after all the vendors have closed the GB pages and finalised extras. Fingers crossed we can all have these in hand in September.

[Puddsy]

I can only assume that SP's queues are dependent on profile.

been known for a while that this is the case, i've seen the DCS queue as low as 4 weeks when the SA queue was over a year

It could also have to do with material.  These arePBT with dye sub legends, while SA is dual-shot ABS.

when i asked about the queue it was for ABS, but it's semantics -- hopefully this set is in our hands soon, i am very excited about it

[dvorcol]

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[vanyll]

Congrats on the successful group buy! Looking forward to not have to wait for a year plus. 

[Surefoot]

Surprised this didnt sell more, it's a lot more unique than the eternal GMK color swaps/clones and with an interesting profile and material... In any case glad they'll make it, and yeah there's hoping for a shorter wait time maybe, though seeing how SP are a small operation I have no idea how they would make a parallel run for this one.

[treeleaf64]

Yess! finally so excited

[ZavaZ86]

Any update 

[Zephyraeon]

We've got some good news! The keycaps have begun shipping from SP to vendors this week!

Unfortunately no updates on deskmats/RAMA caps but keycap only orders should be arriving with regional vendors this month.

[anatworkaccount]

Mfw a deskmat is going to hold up my order indefinitely.

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[andreiborisov]

We've got some good news! The keycaps have begun shipping from SP to vendors this week!

Unfortunately no updates on deskmats/RAMA caps but keycap only orders should be arriving with regional vendors this month.

I’m excited! Can’t wait to see the final result!

[Puddsy]

We've got some good news! The keycaps have begun shipping from SP to vendors this week!

Unfortunately no updates on deskmats/RAMA caps but keycap only orders should be arriving with regional vendors this month.

a gb shipping... early?? in 2021??

excited to get my set soon

[Zephyraeon]

Some bad news for 6u users - it looks like the 6u DCS spacebars are lacking support for 6u stabilisers. I'm not sure yet if this is true for all DCS 6u spacebars or just for Delftware. I have sent an email to SP to see what we can do. See image below (photo courtesy of jonehhbravo, badly drawn red lines courtesy of yours truly):


The vendors should all have received the keycaps by now, RAMA caps are on the way to RAMA from the manufacturer and the deskmats should be arriving in another month or two. Hoping that all orders will still ship in 2021 (and on schedule) but we'll have to see how things progress.

We've got some good news! The keycaps have begun shipping from SP to vendors this week!

Unfortunately no updates on deskmats/RAMA caps but keycap only orders should be arriving with regional vendors this month.

a gb shipping... early?? in 2021??

excited to get my set soon

It was always slated for Q4 2021 shipping, so it's only on time unfortunately.

[Puddsy]

DCS 6u spacebars are for offset 6u, so they'll only work on certain models and layout of 1800 board, this has been known for a while

i had this GB in my planner for december so it's a month early in my heart

[Puddsy]

got my set, this came out great

quick and dirty phone pics, a little out of focus







i would say dyesub quality is similar to the latest CRP round, i would call it 8.5/10. very minimal bleed/blur, which is on par for DCS dyesubs historically. i'm not an expert, just a guy who has owned a lot of sets, but i'm comfortable saying that as far as dyesub goes, SP continues to be better than pretty much every other option. there are still a few artifacts/minor issues, but nothing you'd notice if you weren't looking for it.

as far as keycap quality, it's PBT DCS, which is good, but has a texture that not everyone might like. not dissimilar to some other PBT sets, like EPBT and other gateron blank-based manus. CRP is a little smoother in my experience.

my one gripe is that the font weight on the alphas is different than the font weight on the mods but it's not bad enough for me to categorize it as a demerit.

overall very happy with this set, one of the more interesting sets in the past year or two, it's really unique and i think that people only slept on this set because of the "DCS bad" meme.

[anatworkaccount]

got my set, this came out great

quick and dirty phone pics, a little out of focus

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i would say dyesub quality is similar to the latest CRP round, i would call it 8.5/10. very minimal bleed/blur, which is on par for DCS dyesubs historically. i'm not an expert, just a guy who has owned a lot of sets, but i'm comfortable saying that as far as dyesub goes, SP continues to be better than pretty much every other option. there are still a few artifacts/minor issues, but nothing you'd notice if you weren't looking for it.

as far as keycap quality, it's PBT DCS, which is good, but has a texture that not everyone might like. not dissimilar to some other PBT sets, like EPBT and other gateron blank-based manus. CRP is a little smoother in my experience.

my one gripe is that the font weight on the alphas is different than the font weight on the mods but it's not bad enough for me to categorize it as a demerit.

overall very happy with this set, one of the more interesting sets in the past year or two, it's really unique and i think that people only slept on this set because of the "DCS bad" meme.

Thanks for the pics! Eagerly awaiting my set now.

[alphabirth]

Just got my set yesterday too, and I am very pleased!  The overall quality of the set is comparable to GMK I'd say, and definitely the highest quality PBT set I have now.  It's a higher quality mold vs. ePBT and better quality dye-sub than KAT (IMHO).  Plus this has been the fastest GB I have ever been a part of!  Remind me, why aren't all new sets using DCS?? 

[treeleaf64]

I got mine! Now i am waiting for my dad to ship it to me from California ( I am in Indiana) 

[Neely_12]

Just got my set yesterday too, and I am very pleased!  The overall quality of the set is comparable to GMK I'd say, and definitely the highest quality PBT set I have now.  It's a higher quality mold vs. ePBT and better quality dye-sub than KAT (IMHO).  Plus this has been the fastest GB I have ever been a part of!  Remind me, why aren't all new sets using DCS??

Don't want everybody using it though lol. Gotta keep those low lead times in check

[andreiborisov]

Just got my set yesterday too, and I am very pleased!  The overall quality of the set is comparable to GMK I'd say, and definitely the highest quality PBT set I have now.  It's a higher quality mold vs. ePBT and better quality dye-sub than KAT (IMHO).  Plus this has been the fastest GB I have ever been a part of!  Remind me, why aren't all new sets using DCS??

Don't want everybody using it though lol. Gotta keep those low lead times in check

I’d say it’s due to funky font and most people prefer something more closer to Cherry font (for example the one ePBT usually uses)

[Havattack]

Some bad news for 6u users - it looks like the 6u DCS spacebars are lacking support for 6u stabilisers. I'm not sure yet if this is true for all DCS 6u spacebars or just for Delftware. I have sent an email to SP to see what we can do. See image below (photo courtesy of jonehhbravo, badly drawn red lines courtesy of yours truly):

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The vendors should all have received the keycaps by now, RAMA caps are on the way to RAMA from the manufacturer and the deskmats should be arriving in another month or two. Hoping that all orders will still ship in 2021 (and on schedule) but we'll have to see how things progress.

We've got some good news! The keycaps have begun shipping from SP to vendors this week!

Unfortunately no updates on deskmats/RAMA caps but keycap only orders should be arriving with regional vendors this month.

a gb shipping... early?? in 2021??

excited to get my set soon

It was always slated for Q4 2021 shipping, so it's only on time unfortunately.

I would just snap off some stems from some keycaps i don't like/use (needle nose pliers and a little wiggle action usaully snaps them off pretty cleanly) and ca glue them in the space bar where you need them.

[AASH]

Just got my set yesterday too, and I am very pleased!  The overall quality of the set is comparable to GMK I'd say, and definitely the highest quality PBT set I have now.  It's a higher quality mold vs. ePBT and better quality dye-sub than KAT (IMHO).  Plus this has been the fastest GB I have ever been a part of!  Remind me, why aren't all new sets using DCS??

Don't want everybody using it though lol. Gotta keep those low lead times in check

I’d say it’s due to funky font and most people prefer something more closer to Cherry font (for example the one ePBT usually uses)

What if I told you SP has a DCS font that's cherry-style. Don't tell too many people tho

40s, with love

[Puddsy]

people have thought DCS is bad for years because once GMK got huge people stopped buying it and just assumed it was bad because it was thin

there's a lot more history there but that's the short version

[BrickParade]

just wanted to hop on the DCS love-train, been typing on Delftware for about a week and its great! I'll definitely be keeping my eye out for future DCS sets

[anatworkaccount]

Loving this set. Sounds great, feels great, PBT DCS sets are something I'll definitely support in the future.

[vanyll]

DCS Delftware really delivers. I was sold on the design from day one, but have not had any experience with DCS. It is certainly different than GMK or ePBT, thinner plastic with much more texture, a lighter sound ("clacky"), and less heavy legends. Sure, the legends are not double-shot, but there is close to no bleed, they are tack sharp. The quality overall is impressive, the sound and feel great. It will certainly not be my last DCS set.

[Zephyraeon]

More updates! Deskmats and RAMAs should have either arrived or be en route to all proxies - fingers crossed this means all orders will ship by the end of November.

Thanks everyone for sharing photos of your builds - I love seeing how Delftware looks on all of your boards.

For some not-so-great news, some of the vendors have had reports of spacebar fitment issues on some stabilisers. If you have received your set please check your spacebars fit on your boards if possible - we will be looking into ways to remedy this issue for people that are affected.

[anatworkaccount]

More updates! Deskmats and RAMAs should have either arrived or be en route to all proxies - fingers crossed this means all orders will ship by the end of November.

Thanks everyone for sharing photos of your builds - I love seeing how Delftware looks on all of your boards.

For some not-so-great news, some of the vendors have had reports of spacebar fitment issues on some stabilisers. If you have received your set please check your spacebars fit on your boards if possible - we will be looking into ways to remedy this issue for people that are affected.

My build above is on C3 stabs. It wasn't the *smoothest* fit initially but after messing around with it a bit, I'm content with the fit on C3 V2s.

[brizzzle]

Just got my set in today, it looks like my 7u bar is 1mm smaller compared to other bars and has fit/return issues. I tested it on both durock v2 stabs and ck x wuque lavender stabs and it either got stuck on the press or returned at a slow rate. 

[kiyoboard]

Just got my set in today, it looks like my 7u bar is 1mm smaller compared to other bars and has fit/return issues. I tested it on both durock v2 stabs and ck x wuque lavender stabs and it either got stuck on the press or returned at a slow rate.

Just tested after seeing your message and my 7u is also having same problem.

[Poesjuh]

Same, 7u pretty much not useable. 6.25u is mediocre at best.


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[Poesjuh]

Beep boop double post

[Puddsy]

both of mine are fine

7u had a small amount of catch, but i did the hairdryer trick and it was fine

[tacahiroy]

Anyone got your set w/ a RAMA cap from zFrontier?
According to them, my one is suspended for shipped out since RAMA caps are not still their hands yet.

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