Post by: Fredington on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:32:10
Hi all,
Welcome to the new IC for the 2nd set I designed with Franco, DCS Alps Pingmaster, this time with renders!
**Please note that the renders are done in Cherry profile, which is quite similar to but not exactly the same as DCS. Nevertheless, they should give you a good idea of how the final set will look like.
If you can't already tell, this set was inspired by the legendary IBM Pingmaster, an Alps keyboard manufactured for the Asian market around 1983 and known for the pinging noise that their Alps SKCC Green switches made while typing. For this set, we referenced the Japanese version of the board, as well as an IBM 5556 Multistation from the same era in order to help fill in the missing legends.
(https://i.imgur.com/rJyn5aF.jpg)
IC Form
Please do me a favor and fill out the new form (https://forms.gle/VKN8Ddvfty9Lc8m76), even if you already filled out the old one.
Specifications
Manufacturer: Signature Plastics
Profile: DCS 1-1-2-3-4-4
Material: PBT
Legends: Dye-sublimated
Colors: SP stock colors
Mount: Alps
**Please note that these caps are for Alps/Matias switches only and are not compatible with MX-style switches.
GB Details
The GB will run from August 16 to September 13 and is estimated to ship in Q1 2022.
(https://i.imgur.com/GBHtiAC.png)
Kits
Base
Please note that the longer spacebars will be made in ABS due to warping. Front legends will be pad printed.
(https://i.imgur.com/hI07tsK.png)
JIS & macOS
I know this doesn't cover true JIS layouts, but we wanted to focus compatibility on common Alps layouts while also being constrained by the key sizes that SP currently has due to costing. Also includes macOS bottom row swaps.
(https://i.imgur.com/DBd1uTU.png)
Spacebars & 40s
Again, the longer bars will be ABS. Includes complete support for hiney's H60 PCB, as well as 3-key 40s support.
(https://i.imgur.com/PNxKtN1.png)
Relegendables & Ortho
For those who want that authentic Pingmaster look. This kit is also designed to be able to cover an ortho board. Due to shrinkage, all relegendable keys will be ABS.
(https://i.imgur.com/oszeNf6.png)
Accents
(https://i.imgur.com/S4CRB0i.png)
Renders by Kingk22
TKC1800
(https://i.imgur.com/SIp3SzX.png)
TGR Jane
(https://i.imgur.com/Mx8L6aa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/bKGPYkE.png)
Bean by Kingk22
(https://i.imgur.com/yBh0ObX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0cjVzqE.png)
Acknowledgements
Thank you to Franco, Kingk22, konstantin, and KidViddy.
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Post by: Fredington on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:33:01
7/23/21
- Added GB details, including dates, US pricing, and shipping ETA
6/23/21
- Added 2nd 2u spacebar to Relegendables/Ortho kit
6/18/21
- Added a 1.50u key and additional 2.75u key in the Spacebars kit to suppport hiney's H60 PCB
- Added a R3 and two R4 keys to the Relegendables kit for more uniform ortho coverage
6/16/21
- Added updated renders (less green, new legends)
6/1/21
- Replaced Shift icons with Japanese text legends and shifted other legends around to accommodate
- Added 3-key 40s support to Spacebars kit
4/20/21
- Merged Numpad and Extension into Base kit
- Removed Numpad accents and moved all remaining accents into a separate kit. This should help with both Base kit and JIS pricing.
- Moved macOS support into JIS kit. Again, this was done to help Base kit pricing (apologies to the Mac users out there).
- Spacebar kit pricing was actually pretty reasonable, so I added very basic 40s support
- No changes to Relegendables kit
- OS icon has been made less wide, in line with the change to the Shift icon
4/5/21:
-Fixed some inconsistencies in the Numpad kit
-Added 2nd B and 2.00u spacebar in Spacebar kit
Post by: yoot on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:33:59
Post by: of_sam on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:34:03
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:39:54
Post by: dimo on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:40:45
Post by: Zephyraeon on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:46:32
Post by: monteyalps on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:48:14
Post by: dallman5 on Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:51:36
One question though, are the stabilizer inserts going to be Alps or MX? I can’t quite recall how SPs Alps molds work.
Post by: justinm on Sun, 04 April 2021, 21:16:24
Post by: segami on Sun, 04 April 2021, 21:22:54
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 04 April 2021, 21:41:56
Once again I’m in!
One question though, are the stabilizer inserts going to be Alps or MX? I can’t quite recall how SPs Alps molds work.
SP only have MX stab mounts.
Post by: Fooblitzky on Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:07:56
https://github.com/Fooblitzky/DCS_keycaps
Post by: zedbraxmen on Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:34:02
Post by: DetectiveNio on Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:45:41
. I'll buy 10 sets!!!Sent from my LM-F100 using Tapatalk
Post by: kk73715 on Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:51:07
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:51:58
Post by: tpec on Sun, 04 April 2021, 23:09:46
Post by: misononyan on Sun, 04 April 2021, 23:10:45
Been working on an alps custom as of late, color me excited
Post by: terjerber on Sun, 04 April 2021, 23:42:15
Post by: Friendship on Mon, 05 April 2021, 08:20:31
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 05 April 2021, 08:56:36
Post by: remdell on Mon, 05 April 2021, 11:56:01
To anyone planning to build Alps in the future, this is a must-buy. Even if you don't end up building, you will have desperate people like me wanting your set.
We can't go through the Throwback set dark ages again.
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 05 April 2021, 12:21:50
- Fixed some inconsistencies in the Numpad kit
- Added 2nd B and 2.00u spacebar in Spacebar kit
Post by: kiyoboard on Mon, 05 April 2021, 15:18:03
Post by: jrfhoutx on Mon, 05 April 2021, 21:13:19
Post by: ephemeral25 on Tue, 06 April 2021, 14:09:26
Edit: I just find the shift keys really disgusting and be happy to pay more to get japanese legend
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 06 April 2021, 17:30:49
Post by: Friendship on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:44:00
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:52:46
It's a big yes, I'll try to keep an eye on this one :thumb:
Edit: I just find the shift keys really disgusting and be happy to pay more to get japanese legend
if I could toss my .02 dollars into the ring: I'm getting this set regardless but the shift legends do look like the lil houses you put on properties in monopoly
They were present on the Chinese Pingmaster:
(https://i.imgur.com/BgBKlSY.jpg)
The Japanese Pingmaster had no legended shift keys, with L. Shift reading "Alphanumeric" and R. Shift reading "Kana"
We decided to go with the icon on the Chinese Pingmaster because that style (text mods w/ icon shift) is consistent with other keyboards of the era, including the IBM 5556 Multistation that we referenced for many of the missing legends:
(https://i.imgur.com/Un3dLJk.jpg)
Post by: Friendship on Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:05:02
We decided to go with the icon on the Chinese Pingmaster because that style (text mods w/ icon shift) is consistent with other keyboards of the era, including the IBM 5556 Multistation that we referenced for many of the missing legends:
I appreciate the attention to historical detail! Very excited for this set and the shifts will likely grow on me the more I look at it!
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:26:25
Will purchase a couple of base kits for sure, it's looking sick as hell man.
Post by: mrkevint on Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:32:05
Post by: Applet on Thu, 08 April 2021, 07:32:36
Post by: kakan on Thu, 08 April 2021, 07:51:09
Post by: MoonOperator on Sat, 10 April 2021, 04:35:52
Post by: 7empest on Sat, 10 April 2021, 09:10:05
Edit: I just realized this is PBT as well?!?! This set just jumped up to the No. 1 spot on my "most excited to buy" list!!! Please make this a reality!
Post by: Sturmtiger on Sat, 10 April 2021, 17:19:41
Post by: Sup on Sun, 11 April 2021, 09:58:33
Edit: The shift legends are questionable. Can you change it to JP legends what is also on the original Pingmaster?
Post by: ppCircle on Sun, 11 April 2021, 10:28:37
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 12 April 2021, 09:19:12
The shift legends are questionable. Can you change it to JP legends what is also on the original Pingmaster?
I already spoke about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112117.msg3034993#msg3034993
One thing I can do is make them less wide for all you sizeists :p out there:
(https://i.imgur.com/stDSPzx.png)
In other news, we have vendors:
US: Vala Supply
CAN: DeskHero
UK: Proto[Typist]
EU: MyKeyboard
AS: zFrontier
OCE: DailyClack
GB date is tentatively set for July.
Post by: rokon07 on Mon, 12 April 2021, 12:03:24
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 12 April 2021, 13:31:24
The shift legends are questionable. Can you change it to JP legends what is also on the original Pingmaster?
I already spoke about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112117.msg3034993#msg3034993
One thing I can do is make them less wide for all you sizeists :p out there:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/stDSPzx.png)
In other news, we have vendors:
US: Vala Supply
CAN: DeskHero
UK: Proto[Typist]
EU: MyKeyboard
AS: zFrontier
OCE: DailyClack
GB date is tentatively set for July.
Yeah the smaller arrow on the right looks much better imo haha. I guess I'm part of the sizeist club
Thanks for the update dude, looking forward to this summer
Post by: tpec on Tue, 13 April 2021, 09:07:22
Quote
I already spoke about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112117.msg3034993#msg3034993
One thing I can do is make them less wide for all you sizeists :p out there:
I actually prefer the icons to the Japanese text. Moreover, I prefer the wider legends, too. Seems most people don't feel that way, though. But we do exist!
Quote
GB date is tentatively set for July.
Perfect! ;D
Post by: aa212121 on Tue, 13 April 2021, 16:33:51
Post by: Friendship on Wed, 14 April 2021, 08:30:20
Post by: JewishYoda on Wed, 14 April 2021, 22:48:11
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 20 April 2021, 14:05:49
First round pricing came back and it was a bit...shocking. The vendors and I have decided to target a higher MOQ with a larger base kit (FAIR WARNING: it will still be expensive but hopefully better value). Please see below for kit updates:
1. Merged Numpad and Extension into Base kit
2. Removed Numpad accents and moved all remaining accents into a separate kit. This should help with both Base kit and JIS pricing.
3. Moved macOS support into JIS kit. Again, this was done to help Base kit pricing (apologies to the Mac users out there).
4. Spacebar kit pricing was actually pretty reasonable, so I added very basic 40s support
5. No changes to Relegendables kit
6. OS icon has been made less wide, in line with the change to the Shift icon
Also, I've relooked at the colors and picked some new standards. Part of the reason for this is that the blue that was originally used is no longer available. Fortunately, the new standard is very close. The alpha and modifier colors should also be less green now. All colors are still stock SP PBT standards. Updated renders are being worked on and will be posted later, but the new colors are reflected in the updated kit images.
Base
(https://i.imgur.com/XMVAAK0.png)
JIS & macOS
(https://i.imgur.com/5lS2Z9G.png)
40s & Spacebars
(https://i.imgur.com/m1O9Fca.png)
Accents
(https://i.imgur.com/S4CRB0i.png)
Post by: Jacob4341 on Mon, 26 April 2021, 20:43:08
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 26 April 2021, 22:35:54
Post by: F13 on Wed, 28 April 2021, 11:36:38
My one concern is the Shift key. The centred fat shift symbol just looks strange to my eyes - although I appreciate the design challenge to keep the caps roughly in line with the Pingmaster.
Would it be more consistent with the Enter key to have the shift mod with the text 'Shift'? I would even be happy to pay for alternative Shift keys if you added them as an option in the kitting.
Post by: Bonsa on Thu, 29 April 2021, 07:17:01
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 29 April 2021, 13:16:16
because it is a really good option for alps keycaps
From treeleaf
Post by: OneWithNothing on Sun, 02 May 2021, 03:33:16
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sat, 08 May 2021, 21:02:04
Post by: DetectiveNio on Sat, 08 May 2021, 21:04:31
will this have support for keyboards that use alps/costar style stabs?they have mx stabs stems
Sent from my LM-F100 using Tapatalk
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sat, 08 May 2021, 21:06:47
will this have support for keyboards that use alps/costar style stabs?No they have mx stabs stems
Sent from my LM-F100 using Tapatalk
RIP. I was looking at these caps to replace the pad printed abs ones on my at101w but these don't have support for costar/alps style stabs.
Post by: OneWithNothing on Sun, 09 May 2021, 12:46:56
will this have support for keyboards that use alps/costar style stabs?No they have mx stabs stems
Sent from my LM-F100 using Tapatalk
RIP. I was looking at these caps to replace the pad printed abs ones on my at101w but these don't have support for costar/alps style stabs.
Hey dude, these are 3D printable and convert the MX-style stabilizer hole on the bottom of the newer keycaps so they can accept alps and costar stabs. Hope this helps, and you'll support the GB!
https://www.stlfinder.com/model/alps-stabilizer-insert-for-tai-hao-dolch-and-dell-at101w-3AD6QnJP/2544510/ (https://www.stlfinder.com/model/alps-stabilizer-insert-for-tai-hao-dolch-and-dell-at101w-3AD6QnJP/2544510/)
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sun, 09 May 2021, 19:30:53
will this have support for keyboards that use alps/costar style stabs?No they have mx stabs stems
Sent from my LM-F100 using Tapatalk
RIP. I was looking at these caps to replace the pad printed abs ones on my at101w but these don't have support for costar/alps style stabs.
Hey dude, these are 3D printable and convert the MX-style stabilizer hole on the bottom of the newer keycaps so they can accept alps and costar stabs. Hope this helps, and you'll support the GB!
https://www.stlfinder.com/model/alps-stabilizer-insert-for-tai-hao-dolch-and-dell-at101w-3AD6QnJP/2544510/ (https://www.stlfinder.com/model/alps-stabilizer-insert-for-tai-hao-dolch-and-dell-at101w-3AD6QnJP/2544510/)
ooh wait, that sounds very very interesting. add support for at101w and i'm in! can't wait to get rid of the crappy abs keycaps on the at101w
Post by: IO Sam on Mon, 17 May 2021, 17:55:24
Definitely in!
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 17 May 2021, 18:39:54
From treeleaf
No lie
It's a nice Clean Set
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 01 June 2021, 11:21:18
I've also decided to 1) change SCR LOCK to SCROLL LOCK as per the IBM 5556 Multistation that we were taking inspiration from and to 2) add 3-key 40s support to the Spacebars kit.
Below are the update images for the kits affected by these changes. Updated renders are pending.
(https://i.imgur.com/hI07tsK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/DBd1uTU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/odn8ieN.png)
Post by: tpec on Tue, 01 June 2021, 22:18:41
2) add 3-key 40s support to the Spacebars kit.
40s support! ;D
Post by: DetectiveNio on Tue, 01 June 2021, 22:28:02
Post by: Applet on Wed, 02 June 2021, 09:13:40
Post by: mustardgreens on Wed, 02 June 2021, 16:01:06
Post by: justinhigley on Tue, 15 June 2021, 13:27:47
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 15 June 2021, 14:36:07
Is the h60 a popular alps compatible PCB? It would be nice if the Spacebars kit supported that split layout (2.75 - 1.5 - 2.75). This is all very niche, though, so understood if that isn't feasible.
I can add a 1.5u key for sure. As for the additional 2.75u...I do like the symmetry, and that PCB will probably be a popular one in the future. I'll think about it.
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 16 June 2021, 18:41:13
Do we have an updated/estimated timeline for the groupbuy run, by any chance?
Post by: geohammy on Wed, 16 June 2021, 19:29:49
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 17 June 2021, 11:03:58
(https://i.imgur.com/SIp3SzX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/geqF0jG.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Mx8L6aa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/bKGPYkE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/yBh0ObX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0cjVzqE.png)
Post by: beigeandbrown on Thu, 17 June 2021, 12:59:26
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 18 June 2021, 09:16:55
(https://i.imgur.com/PNxKtN1.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/H6XFGFQ.png)
At this point, I think the kits are pretty much final. I'll be submitting for updated pricing today and hopefully we can get the GB up and running in July.
Post by: 7empest on Fri, 18 June 2021, 11:23:07
I've decided to add complete support for hiney's H60 PCB to the Spacebar kit by adding a 1.50u key and an additional 2.75u key. I've also added a R3 key and two R4 keys to the Relegendables kit to help cover ortho boards more uniformly.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PNxKtN1.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H6XFGFQ.png)
At this point, I think the kits are pretty much final. I'll be submitting for updated pricing today and hopefully we can get the GB up and running in July.
I am SO ready for this!! I cannot wait to be typing on these caps!
Post by: justinhigley on Fri, 18 June 2021, 11:42:17
I've decided to add complete support for hiney's H60 PCB to the Spacebar kit by adding a 1.50u key and an additional 2.75u key...
Thank you! In for it all!
Post by: kajahtaa on Sat, 19 June 2021, 16:36:24
Post by: SGRX on Sat, 19 June 2021, 16:39:46
Post by: beigeandbrown on Mon, 21 June 2021, 01:13:15
Post by: zwartho on Mon, 21 June 2021, 10:47:49
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:30:33
(https://i.imgur.com/oszeNf6.png)
Post by: nicolaidavies on Wed, 14 July 2021, 01:59:53
Post by: asdds22 on Fri, 16 July 2021, 06:19:45
Thank you for update
Post by: Friendship on Fri, 16 July 2021, 07:41:49
I'm in. Definitely buy this set for my AEK Lunar.
Thank you for update
be aware that DCS and AEK caps don't have the same slope so this set will not "fit" well on the lunar. I wish it did because id be down for the same combo but AI03 confirmed it in the lunar 2 discord that they wouldn't work. :(
Post by: krikun98 on Sat, 17 July 2021, 08:59:21
Post by: asdds22 on Tue, 20 July 2021, 00:59:16
I'm in. Definitely buy this set for my AEK Lunar.
Thank you for update
be aware that DCS and AEK caps don't have the same slope so this set will not "fit" well on the lunar. I wish it did because id be down for the same combo but AI03 confirmed it in the lunar 2 discord that they wouldn't work. :(
Oh, you mean, the profile of the keycaps from the first row to the fourth row (R1-R4)?
Totally fine! I'd be satisfied with just covering the AEK Lunar Ⅰ with this keycaps!
Post by: nicolaidavies on Tue, 20 July 2021, 04:08:06
August can't come soon enough!
Post by: aragod on Tue, 20 July 2021, 07:57:42
Post by: Friendship on Tue, 20 July 2021, 08:01:29
I'm in. Definitely buy this set for my AEK Lunar.
Thank you for update
be aware that DCS and AEK caps don't have the same slope so this set will not "fit" well on the lunar. I wish it did because id be down for the same combo but AI03 confirmed it in the lunar 2 discord that they wouldn't work. :(
Oh, you mean, the profile of the keycaps from the first row to the fourth row (R1-R4)?
Totally fine! I'd be satisfied with just covering the AEK Lunar Ⅰ with this keycaps!
no, im talking about the backplane:
https://i2.wp.com/switchandclick.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/keycap-profiles-image.jpg?fit=455%2C1024&ssl=1
it may look similar but will definitely look off when mounted.
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 23 July 2021, 12:54:16
Here today with some GB details:
The GB will run from August 1 - September 1, nice and simple. ETA is looking pretty good, with everyone likely to get this in their hands in the first half of Q1 2022.
Post by: Alex Czar on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:08:49
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 25 July 2021, 14:57:18
So, the ortho kit is ONLY re-legendable ABS? No PBT blanks?
Yes, ABS relegendables and PBT space keys/bars.
Post by: Fredington on Sat, 31 July 2021, 14:07:16
Unfortunately, Vala Supply has decided to drop out, so the GB will be delayed until a new US vendor can be arranged. Sorry for the bad news, but please stay tuned!
Post by: wonkie on Sun, 08 August 2021, 03:16:03
Once again I’m in!
One question though, are the stabilizer inserts going to be Alps or MX? I can’t quite recall how SPs Alps molds work.
SP only have MX stab mounts.
hi im pretty unfamiliar with how alps and mx stab mounts work together but hypothetically could i use durock v2 stabilizers on a h87a board and still be all good? if not the case what would type of stabilizers would i need?
thanks
Post by: vanda on Sun, 08 August 2021, 07:28:31
Post by: Friendship on Sun, 08 August 2021, 08:52:28
Once again I’m in!
One question though, are the stabilizer inserts going to be Alps or MX? I can’t quite recall how SPs Alps molds work.
SP only have MX stab mounts.
hi im pretty unfamiliar with how alps and mx stab mounts work together but hypothetically could i use durock v2 stabilizers on a h87a board and still be all good? if not the case what would type of stabilizers would i need?
thanks
you should be able to use MX stabs for this set (durock v2 included). just cant have an MX switch in the middle :P
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 11 August 2021, 22:32:05
Thank you for your patience. Mechs&Co will be taking over this project as the new US vendor. Get ready, because the GB starts on Monday and will run until September 13!
(https://i.imgur.com/GBHtiAC.png)
Post by: Friendship on Thu, 12 August 2021, 09:22:49
Post by: 7empest on Thu, 12 August 2021, 18:57:29
Post by: mcmcmc on Sat, 14 August 2021, 00:07:54
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 16 August 2021, 16:32:49
Post by: DetectiveNio on Mon, 16 August 2021, 16:39:56
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 16 August 2021, 20:29:54
Mechs&Co isn't up yet right?
They're live now: https://mechsandco.com/products/gb-sp-dcs-alps-pingmaster?variant=39519075106951
GB thread is pending.
Post by: Define on Mon, 16 August 2021, 20:31:19
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 16 August 2021, 20:57:51
ETA for DeskHero?
Probably sometime tomorrow TBH.
Post by: mode on Tue, 17 August 2021, 04:55:55
Nope, I'm out.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Tue, 17 August 2021, 13:29:19
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 17 August 2021, 15:09:01
Will the fragile stems in the spacebars be an issue since they are ABS?
Unfortunately, this comes with the territory. It's either fragile stems or spacebars that don't fit. I highly recommend being extra cautious when removing the ABS keys. Particularly with the spacebars, I suggest removing the Alt keys on either side of them first, then pulling up on each end evenly and simultaneously. In general however, it's good to be more cautious when removing Alps keycaps, as the stems are inherently less durable than the MX design.
All vendors are now live. GB thread will be up shortly, after which I'll be locking this thread. Please continue any further discussion there.
US: Mechs&Co (https://mechsandco.com/products/gb-sp-dcs-alps-pingmaster?variant=39519075106951)
CA: Desk[H]ero (https://www.deskhero.ca/products/dcs-alps-pingmaster?_pos=1&_sid=ce78b54e5&_ss=r&variant=39465409839170)
UK: Proto[Typist] (https://prototypist.net/collections/live-group-buys/products/group-buy-dcs-alps-pingmaster)
EU: MyKeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/keycaps/dcs-alps_557/)
AS: zFrontier Chinese (https://www.zfrontier.com/app/mch/1a3xM4Vvjjbo) and English (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/dcs-alps-pingmaster?variant=39451424882766)
OC: Daily Clack (https://dailyclack.com/products/dcs-alps-pingmaster)
Post by: mode on Wed, 18 August 2021, 00:28:21
FWIW, I've mounted an unmounted yuri several times without damaging a keycap, i think this fragility is overblown if you're using them with SKCM switches, I believe matias stems are much tighter so I could well believe they'll break when pulling from matias.
Post by: F13 on Fri, 20 August 2021, 01:45:29
I'm also happy to see the changes you made to the legends on the shift keys - it looks so much better without the arrow icon.
Time to start buying...
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 20 August 2021, 20:40:18