[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112907.0][img width=387 height=122]https://i.imgur.com/U2OToii.jpg[/img][/url]As an Arabic person, the font destroys my brain...same.
Hi, I have some feeback about kitting:
Base:
_ The R1 pipe key next to F13 should be in alpha color.
_ Stepped caps lock, Scroll Lock and Num Lock should be all in one-line to be consistent with other nav keys.
_ Please add a 1.25u Fn key to the base kit since you don't have any or rename the 1.25u Menu key to 1.25u Fn.
Novelty:
_ I think the novelty should strengthen the theme of the set hence I propose having sea-related images as novelties instead of word.
Spacebars:
_ Mod color space bars are the least popular in the community, please consider replacing these mod color bars to alphas and accent colors.
As an Arabic person, the font destroys my brain...same.
At least the novelty idea wasn’t hammerhead sharks.Hammerheads in Calm Depths
this set has some promise! definitely need more Arabic sets running. echo the calls for more board renders, but looking forward to seeing where this goes. GLWIC!
as an arab, your banners are depleting my already negative brain cells.Is this the equivalent of when people use "Chinese"-looking fonts like this: https://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=201 ?
ummm gmk hammerhead.?
Where's the green
Finally, a GMK set with Arabic sub legends :D
whats the side print on Pause and Prt Sc?
gmk solarized dark
Please add R4:Tilde/GraveAccent/ذ or at least R4:Pipe/Backslash
Icon mods please.
Hi, are you fixated on icon + text mods? If not, can you consider icon mods? Will look cleaner given that the alphas are quite busy with the arabic sublegend. Otherwise I like this set!
Where's the green+1
On 60% Tilde/GraveAccent/ذ is replaced by ESC. But on ISO layout there is one more key available, to the right of left 1.25U shift. That is why I'm asking for R4 keys. R4:Pipe/Backslash is a standard one, non-R1 ذ I've seen so far only on KAT Monochrome as R2 (R3 in GMK numbering) so it seems non-R1 ذ is very rare. Please add at least R4:Pipe/Backslash - not perfect solution but still will help (R4:ذ would be perfect).Please add R4:Tilde/GraveAccent/ذ or at least R4:Pipe/Backslash
Icon mods please.
R4? Never seen it in R4 may i ask where are you gonna use it?
On 60% Tilde/GraveAccent/ذ is replaced by ESC. But on ISO layout there is one more key available, to the right of left 1.25U shift. That is why I'm asking for R4 keys. R4:Pipe/Backslash is a standard one, non-R1 ذ I've seen so far only on KAT Monochrome as R2 (R3 in GMK numbering) so it seems non-R1 ذ is very rare. Please add at least R4:Pipe/Backslash - not perfect solution but still will help (R4:ذ would be perfect).Please add R4:Tilde/GraveAccent/ذ or at least R4:Pipe/Backslash
Icon mods please.
R4? Never seen it in R4 may i ask where are you gonna use it?
OEM profile renders, and what arabic sub molds are you using?Would like to know too, are you planning a pad print? if so do you have an svg made >.> kinda want an arabic sub svg
OEM profile renders, and what arabic sub molds are you using?Would like to know too, are you planning a pad print? if so do you have an svg made >.> kinda want an arabic sub svg
OEM profile renders, and what arabic sub molds are you using?
as someone that purchased hammerhead, i don't really see the similarity everyone sees as one is like turquoise and this is aqua. im not a huge fan of the novs but i would definitely get a base set 😊
As an Arabic person, the font destroys my brain...
Would definitely be interested if it was a different profile. GMK is everywhere. KAT, KAM, DSA would definitely garner my interest.
The font is really weird especially using the letter 'ي' (ya) as an S just makes no sense to me. I appreciate the rise of Arabic GMK sets but idk.
Do you think it's possible to run it with ePBT ? The lead time is huge, 16 months for some kits and haven't been delivered. And 160 keysets in the queue..
i don't know if they do have arabic subalphas but anyways i'll join i think.
The font is really weird especially using the letter 'ي' (ya) as an S just makes no sense to me. I appreciate the rise of Arabic GMK sets but idk.
Not gonna say that im an expert in arabic language but this symbol ي is the right one according to almost any arabic keyboard that i could find on the internet
The font is gonna be the same as in GMK Classic Arabic and pretty similar to MiTo's arabic pulse add-onShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EPX5Bln.png)
Very unique, GLWIC
Any updates? I have been keeping an eye on this thread.
Would definitely be interested if it was a different profile. GMK is everywhere. KAT, KAM, DSA would definitely garner my interest.
Thanks for interest but im having a hard time imagining a sublegends on KAT/KAM or DSA profile, i mean i saw a great wave renders but it's pretty far in terms of quality for these profiles from GMK
Another idea… what’s the point of having so many R1 novelties? Wouldn’t it be better to have at least one for R2, R3, and R4? GMK Botanical had that, which gave the option of filling the macro column of a 65% with novelties
Hey mate, any news from GMK?
Hey, I really love the color scheme on this, kudos!Yeah, looks like the ;: is there by accident, but there’s a ,; key missing next to the .:.
One comment about the NorDeUk set; There seems to be a key missing, which is the key that has comma+semicolon on it. It's supposed to be the exact same as period+colon, just with the comma. Instead there's an extra colon+semicolon key in there, which is already included in the latin base. Is that a render error, or will the NorDeUk set actually not have that key? I can probably just put some novelties down there, but it just seems like a slight oversight that could be corrected.
Hey, I really love the color scheme on this, kudos!
One comment about the NorDeUk set; There seems to be a key missing, which is the key that has comma+semicolon on it. It's supposed to be the exact same as period+colon, just with the comma. Instead there's an extra colon+semicolon key in there, which is already included in the latin base. Is that a render error, or will the NorDeUk set actually not have that key? I can probably just put some novelties down there, but it just seems like a slight oversight that could be corrected.
Hey, I really love the color scheme on this, kudos!Yeah, looks like the ;: is there by accident, but there’s a ,; key missing next to the .:.
One comment about the NorDeUk set; There seems to be a key missing, which is the key that has comma+semicolon on it. It's supposed to be the exact same as period+colon, just with the comma. Instead there's an extra colon+semicolon key in there, which is already included in the latin base. Is that a render error, or will the NorDeUk set actually not have that key? I can probably just put some novelties down there, but it just seems like a slight oversight that could be corrected.
Hope this happens, these kinds of sets with Norde support are rare af.
Pretty sure that the Dalco 959 Mini designer is called DALExSNAIL/DaleSnail (geekhack and Discord respectively).
Good stuff. Not for me, but GLWIC
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You guys have a sharp eye! This is a mistake, i've updated nordeuk render so it should be fixed now
Awesome! Really looking forward to this, it's not a question of "should I" but of "how many" :DHey, I really love the color scheme on this, kudos!
One comment about the NorDeUk set; There seems to be a key missing, which is the key that has comma+semicolon on it. It's supposed to be the exact same as period+colon, just with the comma. Instead there's an extra colon+semicolon key in there, which is already included in the latin base. Is that a render error, or will the NorDeUk set actually not have that key? I can probably just put some novelties down there, but it just seems like a slight oversight that could be corrected.Hey, I really love the color scheme on this, kudos!Yeah, looks like the ;: is there by accident, but there’s a ,; key missing next to the .:.
One comment about the NorDeUk set; There seems to be a key missing, which is the key that has comma+semicolon on it. It's supposed to be the exact same as period+colon, just with the comma. Instead there's an extra colon+semicolon key in there, which is already included in the latin base. Is that a render error, or will the NorDeUk set actually not have that key? I can probably just put some novelties down there, but it just seems like a slight oversight that could be corrected.
Hope this happens, these kinds of sets with Norde support are rare af.
You guys have a sharp eye! This is a mistake, i've updated nordeuk render so it should be fixed now
Hi. I never posted here before, but this IC grabbed my attention enough.
As others said, the font used for the Arabic sub-legends is not that nice and modern compared to the English legends, and it's a very noticeable difference for Arabs like me. I would advise you change the font to something that matches the style of the English legends, like Helvetica Nue.
Here's an example on how the sub-legends should look like:
Either way I love the colors, and I also love the name you picked.
Would love if this became a thing. It's on https://candykeys.com/group-buys/updates!
Looks really good ! Will def keep an eye (too bad it's GMK though but I get it)
Is there any indication when the GB will start, and what the prices are like?
Also, are there other vendors? I’m hoping for Monokei or ILumkb from SEA.
Great looking set with great kitting
better than metropolis or any zabumon set
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The R4 1u \| key can be removed from this kit because there is already a R4 1u <> key, and you don't need both.
Consider using Meta instead of Menu for the R4 1.25u key, since it's a more versatile legend.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2lb3416.jpg)
The R4 1u \| key can be removed from this kit because there is already a R4 1u <> key, and you don't need both.
Consider using Meta instead of Menu for the R4 1.25u key, since it's a more versatile legend.
To add on top of my previous kitting suggestions, the R1 End and PgDn keys can be removed from both base kits and instead placed into the numpad kit.
This is because those two keys are practically never used without a numpad (usually it's on 1800/CP/96-key boards). When designers decide to split the numpad off from the base kit, they sometimes forget to move those keys as well. But moved they should be.
Here are a few examples from other GMK sets: MoDo 2 base (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1589683747069-LZKZT3NI6I3YT5WFFPEZ/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Base.jpg?format=1500w)/numpad (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1589683762245-0TEIHKM69ZMHL1LQIBES/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Num.jpg?format=1500w), Minimal 2 base (https://i.imgur.com/FCN8ZMK.jpeg)/numpad (https://i.imgur.com/Xt4sJby.jpeg), Stealth base (https://i.imgur.com/WkhlxPJ.jpeg)/numpad (https://i.imgur.com/Wfuo9U7.png), Firefly base (https://i.imgur.com/sdROa8v.png)/numpad (https://i.imgur.com/KNpHAKr.png), ThinkCaps base (https://i.imgur.com/J2albrv.jpg)/numpad (https://i.imgur.com/aigUQcv.jpg).
Looking forward to this so much, I’m almost out of the keycap game, but getting two bases and two nordes of this with a smattering of extras. :D
Really hope the colors turn out well for this. One of the nicest dark sets I've seen in a while.
Hey people, i've got some news for y'all:
Bad news: 6 days ago i suddenly woke up at 5:10AM because russian army started bombing civilian airport in Kiev (i live in about 10km from it) i couldn't leave on the first day so now i don't have a choice but to stay at my home laying down in the hallway to avoid windows during airstrikes. Our army is fighting like hell, there is some avengers-level kinda **** going on right now. Surreal...
Good news: We've finally got the quotes, everything is ready to set up a GB Date
I don't know how will it all turn out for me, but we'll hope for the best. There is can be a big problems with network and cells so i don't know when i'm gonna be able to provide further updates. I'll try to set up a date and other stuff as soon as i can.
Take care, talk later
Oh ****. Man, please take care of yourself as best as you can. Maybe the group buy should be postponed
**** Putin. Stay safe and take care of yourself. Hope you and your family get through this ok.
Thanks for the update, stay safe as well as you can.
All the best to you and yours. We can wait, and we will wait.
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Reading this thread was a little disturbing.
Reading this thread was a little disturbing. There were so many negative posts from Arabic people about the font used, and you ignored all of them. Are you even Arabic? This reads as appropriation and capitalist profiteering of a foreign people.
The least you could do is give Arabic people who criticize this some of your time.
Reading this thread was a little disturbing. There were so many negative posts from Arabic people about the font used, and you ignored all of them. Are you even Arabic? This reads as appropriation and capitalist profiteering of a foreign people.You, like the others before you, seem unable to grasp that there is only one possible set of arabic legends available from gmk, as they are double shot plastic and thus have to be molded. It’s either those sublegends or no sublegends, and indeed those people were also replied to, as you are.
The least you could do is give Arabic people who criticize this some of your time.
Reading this thread was a little disturbing. There were so many negative posts from Arabic people about the font used, and you ignored all of them. Are you even Arabic? This reads as appropriation and capitalist profiteering of a foreign people.
The least you could do is give Arabic people who criticize this some of your time.
Reading this thread was a little disturbing. There were so many negative posts from Arabic people about the font used, and you ignored all of them. Are you even Arabic? This reads as appropriation and capitalist profiteering of a foreign people.
The least you could do is give Arabic people who criticize this some of your time.
As an Arab, this is some gibberish words that gives me a headache.
You do realize that Arabic text alignment starts from right to left right ?
What is even the meaning of these words ? :-\
As an Arab, this is some gibberish words that gives me a headache.
You do realize that Arabic text alignment starts from right to left right ?
What is even the meaning of these words ? :-\
Reading this thread was a little disturbing. There were so many negative posts from Arabic people about the font used, and you ignored all of them. Are you even Arabic? This reads as appropriation and capitalist profiteering of a foreign people.
The least you could do is give Arabic people who criticize this some of your time.
1) I didn't address this not because i don't have a time for it (although right now i really don't have much time) but because i don't think that it is really worth addressing. Why? Because this is just a font for presentation, when you are buying a keycap set you are buying a pieces of plastic, idea, color scheme etc. but not the font. At the start i've tried about 4-5 different fonts and this is the one that i liked the most just from a designer perspective, for me it's beautiful and gives an middle east notes, as well as stands out from the others presentations. Think of this is a part of design, it doesn't have to be perfect in terms of arabic calligraphy. Also, this font was created by Muslim person so i really doubt that it is so much wrong in relation to arabic people or culture to be offended by it. And this is one of the reasons i didn't make a novelties with arabic symbols, last thing i wanted is to step on someone's toes.
2) I'm not Arabic
3) The only thing i'm profiting off is my idea and the time that i've put in this project. As well as any other keycap designer who's making a japanese or korean or any other keycaps with sublegends.
There is always two sides of medal, you can think that i'm profiterring of a foreign people and i can think that this is a great way to encourage more people to be interested in middle east culture and arabic-sublegend keycaps in particular
Reading this thread was a little disturbing. There were so many negative posts from Arabic people about the font used, and you ignored all of them. Are you even Arabic? This reads as appropriation and capitalist profiteering of a foreign people.
The least you could do is give Arabic people who criticize this some of your time.
1) I didn't address this not because i don't have a time for it (although right now i really don't have much time) but because i don't think that it is really worth addressing. Why? Because this is just a font for presentation, when you are buying a keycap set you are buying a pieces of plastic, idea, color scheme etc. but not the font. At the start i've tried about 4-5 different fonts and this is the one that i liked the most just from a designer perspective, for me it's beautiful and gives an middle east notes, as well as stands out from the others presentations. Think of this is a part of design, it doesn't have to be perfect in terms of arabic calligraphy. Also, this font was created by Muslim person so i really doubt that it is so much wrong in relation to arabic people or culture to be offended by it. And this is one of the reasons i didn't make a novelties with arabic symbols, last thing i wanted is to step on someone's toes.
2) I'm not Arabic
3) The only thing i'm profiting off is my idea and the time that i've put in this project. As well as any other keycap designer who's making a japanese or korean or any other keycaps with sublegends.
There is always two sides of medal, you can think that i'm profiterring of a foreign people and i can think that this is a great way to encourage more people to be interested in middle east culture and arabic-sublegend keycaps in particular
If you're going to appropriate a culture for your own gain, at the least you should address people from that culture when they criticize your project. "I don't think that it is really worth addressing" shows you have no respect for Arabic people... Presentation is part of the brand of a project and does matters. Some fake Arabic font is tasteless which is why you are getting so many people criticizing it.
"The only thing i'm profiting off is my idea." Your "idea" is to use Arabic culture and market your keycaps with that culture, and then ignore all of the Arabic people in your Geekhack thread. Yikes.
There are a lot of people that seem upset that I would call you out. This was more or less expected. Living in a white dominated society is so tiring because the west constantly appropriates others' cultures and then makes lazy excuses, although I have to say calling using the Arabic language *your* idea is another level. People who make Japanese or Korean keycap sets commonly partner with people from those communities or are from those communities themselves. If they aren't doing either of those, I'd have the same criticism for them.
And this hardly bares noting, but someone being Muslim does not mean that they are Arabic lol.
I really like the ghostly glow, like it's arabian sea with a bit of prince of persia or Aladin, ghost/genie glow. It really does bring me back to the nightly glow, of the bioluminesce or even just ghost ships. Comparing this to hammerhead, basin and even deep sea predator, they have similar colours but not the nightly glow this set brings.
I hope the keycaps will retain the ghostly glow.
I'm not Arabic, but being a person of color, I feel obligated to say it definitely wouldn't hurt to have someone from the culture itself look it over to make sure everything is presented in a tasteful way. I've seen plenty of ICs that use Japanese/Korean/etc subs where people from those cultures criticized the way it was used, and the creator was receptive to that feedback, so like you said, this situation would be no different.
IMO it's nothing to get super bent out of shape over; if someone uses an alphabet or something from my culture and does it badly, I'd just shrug, skip the set, and move on. But different people have different tolerance for that sort of thing. :p
I'm not Arabic, but being a person of color, I feel obligated to say it definitely wouldn't hurt to have someone from the culture itself look it over to make sure everything is presented in a tasteful way. I've seen plenty of ICs that use Japanese/Korean/etc subs where people from those cultures criticized the way it was used, and the creator was receptive to that feedback, so like you said, this situation would be no different.
IMO it's nothing to get super bent out of shape over; if someone uses an alphabet or something from my culture and does it badly, I'd just shrug, skip the set, and move on. But different people have different tolerance for that sort of thing. :p
I mean we do have a dedicated server for the MENA community, it would have been nice if OP came in and had a chat with folks there who use the language on a daily basis. There’s always next time I guess
I've decided to remove Latin Base kit in order to make this set a bit easier to hit MOQs
I've decided to remove Latin Base kit in order to make this set a bit easier to hit MOQs
That's a shame, I'm out. GLWGB
Found this on mechgroupbuys, doesn't seem quite right?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zulye6z.png)
EDIT: Link https://www.mechgroupbuys.com/keycaps/GMK%20Arabian%20Sea