[GB] Makeaboard -60S - Design no screw hole- [CLOSE]-[ CNC PHASE]

[maylily]

This past year, we’ve been in the process of learning and experimenting in order to find the answer to one fundamental question: what design best exemplifies our brand?
Throughout this process, we have sought inspiration from as many different designs as possible. We’ve reviewed keyboards from Korea, the US, China, to Canada. From minimalist setups to sophisticated assembly-line creations. From small mini-boards to solid monoliths. All these styles bring something unique and beautiful to the table.
Make A Board’s passion has been to learn, test, and experiment with these aesthetics in order to shape them into a unique cohesive style that we can call our own.
The 60S embodies the seamless design that’s the hallmark of our vision–a simple, delicate form that completely envelopes its sharp, articulate interior.
The 60S is the intersection of the minimalist HHKB and the high-precision aluminum bodies of larger boards. But most importantly, it is the designed that we have longed for. The unique way it is assembled hides every screw hole across the entire surface of the keyboard. Remarkably simple, but with the capability to accommodate a wide range of customization.
The 60S also showcases the quality of our precision machining capabilities. Until you run your own hands over it yourself, you’ll never be able to appreciate how truly satisfying it feels.

 

JOIN: https://makeaboard.net/product/60s-group-buy/
Specs:

Album: https://imgur.com/a/cAiZc
Material: Anodized alπuminum
Dimensions: 300 x 110 x 40 mm
Weight Mid part: 1150g
Top part: 200g ( 150g with normal layout)
Bottom part: 360g

Link IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92925.0

PRICE:
KIT: ( Case + plate + PCB ): 280$
PLATE:(extra)
 Carbon: 50$
 Brass: 50$
PCB(extra) : 40$
Stabilizer:15$
Assemble: 35$
And much more options.
Select the options in the order below:
 LAYOUT:
  -Poker style
  -HHKB style
USB port location:
  -( normal location )
  -Mid ( the center of the keyboard, as picture below )
Select the color of the keyboard:You can choose separate colors for all three parts.
( Our advice is to choose the Top and Bot part of the same color. And the color of Bot part is opposite color)

  -Black
  -Silver
  -Red
  -Gold
  -Gray
  -Blue
  -White ( powder coating)

Select the options plate:
With Poker layout / left usb options. You can still use common pcb and plate.
Just with HHKB layout you need to our plate.
Plate Aluminium:
  -Black
  -Silver
  -Red
  -Gold
  -Gray
  -Blue
Plate Carbon(50$):
  -Carbon filber 3k
Plate Brass(50$):
  -Brass with polished mirror, protective coating.
 Select the options PCB:
  -PCB QMK
  -PCB Bootmapper
 PCB support:
Select the Switch:
Cherry switch(40$):
Gateron switch(25$):
Select the stabilizer (15$):
  -Stablilizer 6.25u
  -Stab lilizer 7u
Assemble service(35$):
Full assemble

FAQ:
New team? I have not heard you ever
- Yes, we are a new team, but have been around for a long time, and recently we have just run GB R96 (layout 96) and are waiting for sorting + shipping.

Time open GB?
- 4/1/2018 --> 24/1/2018

How long does it take to complete the product?
About 14 week after we close GB.

What does the $ 280 kit include?
Case, PCB, aluminum plate, screwdriver, hex screw, bumper, etc

What if I want to buy more parts, aluminum plate?
Please send your request to maylilyrt@hotmail.com. I will send invoice to you via paypal for extra part.

Will my standard plate fit? Can I always use the pcb + plate that I have assembled for use?
I'm afraid not, but do not worry, our kit has enough PCB and Plate to fit this case.

There is only one layout for HHKB?
No, you just replace the top part for the normal layout. ( care options mid usb)

Amount will be limited?
I think it only stops at 100 - 125, to make sure the QC work goes well.

What is the quality of your anode surface?
Macbook Pro equivalent.

Shipping?

We are still finalizing the price list for each region, but you can be assured of the price. We have proxies in China, so the shipping price will be very adorable

[shopchaudoc]

Excellent GB Excellent design

[hhkbp2]

Have a few questions:

1. Any photo on what it looks like exactly for each colors, dark, gray, etc.? Or samples?

2. Since there are proxies in China, will the products be shipped from these proxies to Chinese buyers directly?

[maylily]

Excellent GB Excellent design

Thanks man! 

Have a few questions:

1. Any photo on what it looks like exactly for each colors, dark, gray, etc.? Or samples?

2. Since there are proxies in China, will the products be shipped from these proxies to Chinese buyers directly?

1.The complete anodizing version is in the process, we try to accelerate to be able to show next week.

2.Of course, all customers in China will be shipped straight.

[hhkbp2]

> Will my standard plate fit? Can I always use the pcb + plate that I have assembled for use?
> I'm afraid not, but do not worry, our kit has enough PCB and Plate to fit this case.

60s seems to be compatible to universal 60 pcb and plate, seeing from the positions of these stand-off screws. But this says it's not compatible? Do I understand it right? Why not? It seems to lose the advantage of tray mount design. And the top-left usb port option doesn't make much sense if the pcb/plate is exclusive.

In that case, I would like to see what layout does the pcb/plate support in this kit.

[maylily]

> Will my standard plate fit? Can I always use the pcb + plate that I have assembled for use?
> I'm afraid not, but do not worry, our kit has enough PCB and Plate to fit this case.

60s seems to be compatible to universal 60 pcb and plate, seeing from the positions of these stand-off screws. But this says it's not compatible? Do I understand it right? Why not? It seems to lose the advantage of tray mount design. And the top-left usb port option doesn't make much sense if the pcb/plate is exclusive.

In that case, I would like to see what layout does the pcb/plate support in this kit.

> The 4 inner corners of the TOP part are finely tuned with the most harmony of the whole, but that will make your Plate slightly more difficult.
However, I will modify the drawing a bit to fit your plate.
It will not matter if you choose the Poker layout / usb left.

[hhkbp2]

> Will my standard plate fit? Can I always use the pcb + plate that I have assembled for use?
> I'm afraid not, but do not worry, our kit has enough PCB and Plate to fit this case.

60s seems to be compatible to universal 60 pcb and plate, seeing from the positions of these stand-off screws. But this says it's not compatible? Do I understand it right? Why not? It seems to lose the advantage of tray mount design. And the top-left usb port option doesn't make much sense if the pcb/plate is exclusive.

In that case, I would like to see what layout does the pcb/plate support in this kit.

> The 4 inner corners of the TOP part are finely tuned with the most harmony of the whole, but that will make your Plate slightly more difficult.
However, I will modify the drawing a bit to fit your plate.
It will not matter if you choose the Poker layout / usb left.

Yeah, I think these two options are fine:

1. plate/pcb exclusive, middle usb port
2. universal 60% plate/pcb compatible, top-left usb port

In both options, it should be able to support two kinds of layouts:

1. HHKB (split backspace in top row, 1.75u shift in R3, and 7u spacebar in the bottom row)
2. various 60% layouts, eg., poker(no split backspace, 2.75u shift in R3), infinity standard(split backspace, 1.75u shift in R3, 6.25u spacebar as standard bottom row), and other variants

It's common that the pcb/plate support various 60% layouts for a customizable kit. But the render picture of 60s only show a literal "poker" layout plate. I suggest to add a picture or add some info of the pcb/plate, to describe what layout it supports exactly. It also helps to describe what the pcb/plate looks like, so we know what color it is, whether it support removing the top of switches without desoldering, etc.


On the other hand, it will be appreciated if the default alu plate/pcb is not a must as a bundle of the kit. I probably want to buy a kit and install my existing infinity 60 pcb/plate, which has costar stabilizers and feels better than a pcb/plate with cherry stabilizers. In this case the universally compatible 60s seems to be more of a elegant case and the bundled pcb/plate seems useless. It's appreciated if the pcb/plate is optional.

[maylily]

> Will my standard plate fit? Can I always use the pcb + plate that I have assembled for use?
> I'm afraid not, but do not worry, our kit has enough PCB and Plate to fit this case.

60s seems to be compatible to universal 60 pcb and plate, seeing from the positions of these stand-off screws. But this says it's not compatible? Do I understand it right? Why not? It seems to lose the advantage of tray mount design. And the top-left usb port option doesn't make much sense if the pcb/plate is exclusive.

In that case, I would like to see what layout does the pcb/plate support in this kit.

> The 4 inner corners of the TOP part are finely tuned with the most harmony of the whole, but that will make your Plate slightly more difficult.
However, I will modify the drawing a bit to fit your plate.
It will not matter if you choose the Poker layout / usb left.

Yeah, I think these two options are fine:

1. plate/pcb exclusive, middle usb port
2. universal 60% plate/pcb compatible, top-left usb port

In both options, it should be able to support two kinds of layouts:

1. HHKB (split backspace in top row, 1.75u shift in R3, and 7u spacebar in the bottom row)
2. various 60% layouts, eg., poker(no split backspace, 2.75u shift in R3), infinity standard(split backspace, 1.75u shift in R3, 6.25u spacebar as standard bottom row), and other variants

It's common that the pcb/plate support various 60% layouts for a customizable kit. But the render picture of 60s only show a literal "poker" layout plate. I suggest to add a picture or add some info of the pcb/plate, to describe what layout it supports exactly. It also helps to describe what the pcb/plate looks like, so we know what color it is, whether it support removing the top of switches without desoldering, etc.


On the other hand, it will be appreciated if the default alu plate/pcb is not a must as a bundle of the kit. I probably want to buy a kit and install my existing infinity 60 pcb/plate, which has costar stabilizers and feels better than a pcb/plate with cherry stabilizers. In this case the universally compatible 60s seems to be more of a elegant case and the bundled pcb/plate seems useless. It's appreciated if the pcb/plate is optional.

In your case it is true, but there are many more needs to buy, and I think at this price everything is very reasonable for the complete builder.

[Rafa_n]

What's the MOQ for this to go through and are we close to it?

[amnesia0287]

What's the MOQ for this to go through and are we close to it?

I don't think it's that kinda GB, I was under the impression they are already in process of making the boards, but I could be wrong.

[donut_sauce]

I'm bit confused which do you consider the "bot part"? In the exploded diagram you say the gold weight is the "bot part" but on the order form you specify that the "mid part" is the weight. Which one is it?

[Vadurr]

I'm bit confused which do you consider the "bot part"? In the exploded diagram you say the gold weight is the "bot part" but on the order form you specify that the "mid part" is the weight. Which one is it?
(Attachment Link)

Yeah I'm also not sure which of the pieces is middle and bottom. Only the top piece is clear x__x

[donut_sauce]

i hope they respond back to this since i'd like to get one and the buy closes soon

[Captainbuttmonkey]

Honestly I think this looks incredible and I'm amazed there isn't more interest. My only concerns are, as you are new you don't have an established reputation etc (not a lot you can do about that I realise). Also I would like to see a prototype/example case if possible? One of the most important things for me is quality control and an excellent finish, but there aren't any actual boards or other buys you have run that I can take a look at. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, thanks =].

[Vadurr]

Honestly I think this looks incredible and I'm amazed there isn't more interest. My only concerns are, as you are new you don't have an established reputation etc (not a lot you can do about that I realise). Also I would like to see a prototype/example case if possible? One of the most important things for me is quality control and an excellent finish, but there aren't any actual boards or other buys you have run that I can take a look at. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, thanks =].

There is a video linked in the IC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YErZWdgSf6Y

[Captainbuttmonkey]

Honestly I think this looks incredible and I'm amazed there isn't more interest. My only concerns are, as you are new you don't have an established reputation etc (not a lot you can do about that I realise). Also I would like to see a prototype/example case if possible? One of the most important things for me is quality control and an excellent finish, but there aren't any actual boards or other buys you have run that I can take a look at. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, thanks =].

There is a video linked in the IC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YErZWdgSf6Y

Yeh I had checked it out but thanks nonetheless =]. Only thing is it's unfinished and QC on 1 board compared to a full run is obviously a different kettle of fish (does look very good though). I noticed on the website that there actually is a previous R96 GB that they have done that should be completed soon. So hopefully it will be possible to see the results/finishing of that as an example of what we can expect.

[donut_sauce]

Honestly I think this looks incredible and I'm amazed there isn't more interest. My only concerns are, as you are new you don't have an established reputation etc (not a lot you can do about that I realise). Also I would like to see a prototype/example case if possible? One of the most important things for me is quality control and an excellent finish, but there aren't any actual boards or other buys you have run that I can take a look at. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, thanks =].

There is a video linked in the IC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YErZWdgSf6Y

Yeh I had checked it out but thanks nonetheless =]. Only thing is it's unfinished and QC on 1 board compared to a full run is obviously a different kettle of fish (does look very good though). I noticed on the website that there actually is a previous R96 GB that they have done that should be completed soon. So hopefully it will be possible to see the results/finishing of that as an example of what we can expect.

Same here. I think they’d get a lot more buyers if we could see some color samples or the finished R96.

[maylily]

Honestly I think this looks incredible and I'm amazed there isn't more interest. My only concerns are, as you are new you don't have an established reputation etc (not a lot you can do about that I realise). Also I would like to see a prototype/example case if possible? One of the most important things for me is quality control and an excellent finish, but there aren't any actual boards or other buys you have run that I can take a look at. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, thanks =].

We will have the actual image after the anodizing, and the sample color of all the R96 samples is finished, this weekend.
Thank you for your interest.

I'm bit confused which do you consider the "bot part"? In the exploded diagram you say the gold weight is the "bot part" but on the order form you specify that the "mid part" is the weight. Which one is it?
(Attachment Link)

Bot part is the gold part in the picture

[lac29]

Looks pretty interesting and I'm looking forward to a prototype photo.

[Captainbuttmonkey]

Honestly I think this looks incredible and I'm amazed there isn't more interest. My only concerns are, as you are new you don't have an established reputation etc (not a lot you can do about that I realise). Also I would like to see a prototype/example case if possible? One of the most important things for me is quality control and an excellent finish, but there aren't any actual boards or other buys you have run that I can take a look at. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, thanks =].

We will have the actual image after the anodizing, and the sample color of all the R96 samples is finished, this weekend.
Thank you for your interest.

Sounds good, thanks 

[BunnyLake]

beautiful design, cant wait to see more

[nastrovje]

Beautiful design but,

hard to decide to buy when there are no anodization examples and no info on shipping price or shipping company.

Also is there a possibility to only order 1 plate? I only want brass and no aluminium, but don't want to pay for both.

Is the angle still 10,5 degrees?

[bminhz]

sad to see this one has low marketing compared to similar like Ares, great design tho

[foxlive]

My question may appear silly for some, but what is the difference between QMK and bootmaper? Btw I am running on my Mac OS. Thanks

[MaNiFeX]

Question regarding supported layout #3.  Normally an HHKB has a 1.75u shift and a 1u function button.  Is that the case on this board as well, or do 3 keys have to replace the right shift (2.75u)?

Thanks!

[maylily]

My question may appear silly for some, but what is the difference between QMK and bootmaper? Btw I am running on my Mac OS. Thanks

QMK and Bootmapper are two different firmware.

Bootmapper is due to winkeyless development. You can find out more at: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/

QMK base on TMK, by Jack

beautiful design, cant wait to see more

Thanks,

Beautiful design but,

hard to decide to buy when there are no anodization examples and no info on shipping price or shipping company.

Also is there a possibility to only order 1 plate? I only want brass and no aluminium, but don't want to pay for both.

Is the angle still 10,5 degrees?

1. We updated the image for anodizing samples.
2. I want to have a good price kit for everyone, aluminum plate is included in the kit at very favorable prices, you should not count too much. Because if you exclude it from the kit, it does not reduce the price, so I recommend that you get my default kit + plate brass.
10.5 degrees, and has been modified to not reveal the switch as the prototype

[Perfex]

Does this have the bottom brass piece as depcited in the renders?
I only see color anodizing options for the bottom.

[maylily]

Does this have the bottom brass piece as depcited in the renders?
I only see color anodizing options for the bottom.

We do not make the bottom bronze, in the render image we simulate gold anodizing

[yonghf]

Is this the same gold for the bottom part?

[maylily]

Show Image

Is this the same gold for the bottom part?

Yes, exactly!!

[johuu]

Joined yesterday. Could you please provide final numbers when GB is closed finally?

[maylily]

Joined yesterday. Could you please provide final numbers when GB is closed finally?

Yes, me can.

[maylily]

pump

[yonghf]

I sent you 2 PMs on Reddit can you please check and get back to me?

[Peppermint216]

Really nice design but, for $330 minimum shipped I would rather have some screw holes in the bottom and have it top mount.

[johuu]

Joined yesterday. Could you please provide final numbers when GB is closed finally?

Yes, me can.

The GB closing date is in the past, but the joining form on your page is still accessible. Please provide some updates .

[Puddsy]

Can you make a video showing how to assemble the case? I don't really understand it from the pictures.

[Etherealsound]

Is it possible to get a version in HHKB 60% with acrylic diffuser in the middle? I'm not really seeing any options for a diffuser in the group buy link.

[yonghf]

Was there an MOQ? Seems like the GB ended on 24 Jan. Can we get an update?

[maylily]

I have already booked the calendar with the factory to start the CNC phase, because this time it was the Lunar New Year, so after this period can update more about the process.

But please do not hesitate to email me at: maylilyrt@hotmail.com

[maylily]

Hi,

  Please join the GB to group private chat on the telegram.

I have sent the link through the message on our website.

Best regards,

[sroop]

Where's the R96 progress?

[Puddsy]

What ever happened with this?

[yonghf]

Last update by GB runner was on May 18 where she said anodising require 10 more days. No news after that 
Paypal protection is ending in 2 weeks and she isn't responding to my request for re-invoice.

[Puddsy]

Last update by GB runner was on May 18 where she said anodising require 10 more days. No news after that 
Paypal protection is ending in 2 weeks and she isn't responding to my request for re-invoice.

yeesh

[johuu]

What ever happened with this?

Last update by GB runner was on May 18 where she said anodising require 10 more days. No news after that 
Paypal protection is ending in 2 weeks and she isn't responding to my request for re-invoice.

Communication happened in a Telegram chat group so far.

[yonghf]

What ever happened with this?

Last update by GB runner was on May 18 where she said anodising require 10 more days. No news after that 
Paypal protection is ending in 2 weeks and she isn't responding to my request for re-invoice.

Communication happened in a Telegram chat group so far.

I think we can all agree that the GB runner needs to improve on communication.

[Puddsy]

What ever happened with this?

Last update by GB runner was on May 18 where she said anodising require 10 more days. No news after that 
Paypal protection is ending in 2 weeks and she isn't responding to my request for re-invoice.

Communication happened in a Telegram chat group so far.

well, with the new GH rules they better start posting here

[mudcakehoney]

I joined the Rosa keycap group buy over 6 months ago from Makeaboard and there has been radio silence for months now. No response to replies from several people. I’m pretty sure it’s never coming

[sroop]

Joined the R96 GB back in September - it was 'shipping this week' back in April and with a 'setback' it was at '99.99% completion' last month.

[yonghf]

Joined the R96 GB back in September - it was 'shipping this week' back in April and with a 'setback' it was at '99.99% completion' last month.

So did you receive the board eventually?

[sroop]

Joined the R96 GB back in September - it was 'shipping this week' back in April and with a 'setback' it was at '99.99% completion' last month.

So did you receive the board eventually?

Nope, still waiting for maylily to reply my status request.

[sroop]

Welp, it looks like the website is down - hopefully everybody that is in this GB can get a refund.

[donut_sauce]

Yikes. Hope everyone gets there money back on this

[Sshimosawa]

Got Paypal to recover a TKL order i had that i never received. Suggesting you do the same. Got stringed along for months when i did get a response but mostly none.... now the site is down. Its frustrating in all the wrong ways. Lets call a spade a spade.

[Puddsy]

Yikes. Uh oh.

[mudcakehoney]

Will PayPal cover anything over 6 months old though?

[xondat]

Will PayPal cover anything over 6 months old though?

Nope. Dispute needs to be started before the 181st day.

Sounds like the limit is a few days away?

[yonghf]

I asked for a re-invoice given the 6 month period is coming up. Got re-invoice, paid immediately, asked seller to refund original invoice but there was no response until I made a fuss in VNMK. He responded saying that he has a negative PayPal balance and can't refund me. I'm supposed to wait until 2nd week of July when he gets paid. Told him I'll wait but honestly I don't think I'll ever see a refund.

[donut_sauce]

I asked for a re-invoice given the 6 month period is coming up. Got re-invoice, paid immediately, asked seller to refund original invoice but there was no response until I made a fuss in VNMK. He responded saying that he has a negative PayPal balance and can't refund me. I'm supposed to wait until 2nd week of July when he gets paid. Told him I'll wait but honestly I don't think I'll ever see a refund.

So if I’m understanding right you’ve paid twice now? Confused why he would re-invoice if he didn’t have the cash to refund the original.

[sroop]

I asked for a re-invoice given the 6 month period is coming up. Got re-invoice, paid immediately, asked seller to refund original invoice but there was no response until I made a fuss in VNMK. He responded saying that he has a negative PayPal balance and can't refund me. I'm supposed to wait until 2nd week of July when he gets paid. Told him I'll wait but honestly I don't think I'll ever see a refund.

So if I’m understanding right you’ve paid twice now? Confused why he would re-invoice if he didn’t have the cash to refund the original.

Pretty sure they pulled an exit scam.

[Sshimosawa]

1) open a claim for the initial payment with PayPal now, as xondat suggest.

2) retract the second payment.

I know there's shiny new items we want. Sometimes badly enough to abandon reason. Even convince ourselves that holding out for a response may change things. This seller doesn't list an email address on their site nor a way to contact them. I had to hunt them down via Facebook. At least in my case, they provided some fractured talk and zero action. (my purchase wasn't a group buy, they simply "forgot" to send it). Finally they never responded to a claim I filed on PayPal and the funds looped back to me a few months later. More irritating than anything.

I don't mean to toot the same old horn but - - - in any other business a good seller stands by their word, answers questions, and provides reasons for delays. I'm gonna call a spade what it is. They're not good. And to be clear *** this isn't a language or cultural barrier. There are great sellers in Vietnam, and all over Asia who are honest and on-their-sh*t and answer questions. After seeing these posts these people have neither shown nor proven through action, that they are above-board. OP I welcome you to challenge me openly on this.

What drives me triple nuts is this is a niche community. And the amount of time and energy someone has to spend to understand what people in the mechanical kb community want and respond to - - just to scam them - -  means they were part of the community too. And that truly bums me out. For many of us, we just want the shiny thing in the photo, not necessarily Paypal to resolve anything. They should scam other organizations (or please, none at all). Just not this one. This is overflown with cool people who like cool things. And there's no room for people who just refuse to communicate or deliver.

[Aktavate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8bdqxh/r96_gb_status/

I noticed today their website is down as well. Not a positive sign.

[yonghf]

It's strange that they were allowed to run a GB in the first place given the R96 was still ongoing. This seller has been banned by VNMK so they should be blacklisted from GH as well.

[Puddsy]

It's strange that they were allowed to run a GB in the first place given the R96 was still ongoing. This seller has been banned by VNMK so they should be blacklisted from GH as well.

You're allowed to run 2 GBs at once on GH. Even I didn't know they were banned from VNMK, I didn't see anyone mention it before now.

[maylily]

Who told me I was baned from vnmk?

[maylily]

- The number of 60S order in GH only 6 people. And I ordered 10 pcs.
- As the number less than expected a lot, so I was not able to get the earliest schedule for the plant.
Of course, the CNC process does not take much time, but the anodizing is different. After receiving the goods from me, the factory has estimated about 3 weeks is our turn. But even then, this factory which is the vendor of Samsung, there were errors, and rework to compensation 1 shipment Galaxy S9. For that reason the 60S was moved to the end of April, and after arriving at the factory in early May to take over.

- Of the 4/10 sets 60S. there was an error. This error is because they use a baby sized acid tank for the phone, which has been dented for some errors. And do not understand why they also do not want to take responsibility. (I think the number is too small, it's hard to get a deal here)

- And finally they took responsibility and had to redo even the CNC for me.
- You can blame me irresponsibly, but I also have my own job.

- The reason I can not refund, is because the paypal account is negative. Yes, I deserve it. but I do not cheat anyone. R96 finished, only missing amega32u4 due to my order missing.

- My website has to change because I have to change host for website, also because paypal account is negative. Will be back online in the next few days.

From now on, every day I will online  email / geehack / telegram / facebook page from 9pm UTC + 7  to 11PM . Hope not to miss any information from you.

[Aktavate]

Seems like it would be much easier to pass relevant information to buyers when you get it instead of keeping us waiting so long that everyone starts thinking its a scam again and you finally let us know what is going on. I understand you are busy, we all are, but you have a certain responsibility when you take people's money.

[mudcakehoney]

- The number of 60S order in GH only 6 people. And I ordered 10 pcs.
- As the number less than expected a lot, so I was not able to get the earliest schedule for the plant.
Of course, the CNC process does not take much time, but the anodizing is different. After receiving the goods from me, the factory has estimated about 3 weeks is our turn. But even then, this factory which is the vendor of Samsung, there were errors, and rework to compensation 1 shipment Galaxy S9. For that reason the 60S was moved to the end of April, and after arriving at the factory in early May to take over.

- Of the 4/10 sets 60S. there was an error. This error is because they use a baby sized acid tank for the phone, which has been dented for some errors. And do not understand why they also do not want to take responsibility. (I think the number is too small, it's hard to get a deal here)

- And finally they took responsibility and had to redo even the CNC for me.
- You can blame me irresponsibly, but I also have my own job.

- The reason I can not refund, is because the paypal account is negative. Yes, I deserve it. but I do not cheat anyone. R96 finished, only missing amega32u4 due to my order missing.

- My website has to change because I have to change host for website, also because paypal account is negative. Will be back online in the next few days.

From now on, every day I will online  email / geehack / telegram / facebook page from 9pm UTC + 7  to 11PM . Hope not to miss any information from you.

What about the Rosa Artisan GB from last October which there has been no communication about? After 3 messages through here, the website and FB I have not received a response. Please advise when the keycap or the refund will be delivered.

[maylily]

Seems like it would be much easier to pass relevant information to buyers when you get it instead of keeping us waiting so long that everyone starts thinking its a scam again and you finally let us know what is going on. I understand you are busy, we all are, but you have a certain responsibility when you take people's money.

I messed it up, and yes. Now I will be here, every day to answer any of your questions.

Thank you for your kindness.

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What about the Rosa Artisan GB from last October which there has been no communication about? After 3 messages through here, the website and FB I have not received a response. Please advise when the keycap or the refund will be delivered.
[/quote]

The truth is that since the artist left us, we have to start over from zero. There were times when it seemed possible, but we were wrong. We've done it again and again and again. And now we're testing new molds. I can not promise for sure, but if the mold is usable, it takes about 3 weeks for production and shipping. Only 3-4 weeks.

[johuu]

Status update?

[johuu]

.... and yes. Now I will be here, every day to answer any of your questions....

Status update?

I see

[donut_sauce]

.... and yes. Now I will be here, every day to answer any of your questions....

Status update?

I see

lol

[sroop]

What's the status on the R96 GB? It has been two months since the PCB was the holdup at '99% completion' and we're nearing the 12 month point. If you actually have the boards done, I'll just buy a RS96 PCB elsewhere because a PCB isn't worth this wait.

[johuu]

GB starter annonuced in the telegram group pictures after the weekend to verify it is not a scam. She confirmed to bring up a timeline to full fill the gb schedule. lets see....

[SolidCactus]

What's the status on the R96 GB? It has been two months since the PCB was the holdup at '99% completion' and we're nearing the 12 month point. If you actually have the boards done, I'll just buy a RS96 PCB elsewhere because a PCB isn't worth this wait.

I'm still waiting on the R96 GB as well. The last we heard was an update on the 5/22/2018 and this was at 99% completion.

Please be warned any 60S GB as I'm still waiting for the board after 11 months with very few updates.

[sroop]

[Darknight00z]

updates?

[qq]

updates?

You're better PM them or find some direct contact. In VNMK (VN mechkey community), this vendor has a bad reputation for overclaiming what they are doing, irresponsible customer support, GBs taking forever to shipment, and Paypal refund issues (they said so). Just saying.

[Aktavate]

Well today marks the 1 year anniversary of the R96 GB starting and still no sign of a keyboard. Also 2.5 months since the last update here and 4 months since the last update on their website. Cant imagine what the next excuse is going to be, assuming they even bother at this point.

[sroop]

These atmegas sure are taking a long time to ship.

[sroop]

Their site is down again, this must mean it's shipping any moment now.

[nastrovje]

RIP

[Vadurr]

I hope yall just randomly start receiving packages x__x

[sroop]

I have more faith in a half life 3 release than this


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[Aktavate]

What recourse do we have at this point? I assume all our money is gone-gone, but if they are active in the local kb scene people need to know they are scammers and not to give them any more.

[nastrovje]

First everyone should contact paypal together, not alone.

[mankikami]

I can 50.000001% sure that they are not scammers  ) few local buyers have already had their orders shipped. Despite the unprofessional way they run this GB and their ****ty arrogant attitude toward buyers, the product is quiet ok indeed  )

[audax989]

Damn, totally forgot about this board.

[Darknight00z]

I can 50.000001% sure that they are not scammers  ) few local buyers have already had their orders shipped. Despite the unprofessional way they run this GB and their ****ty arrogant attitude toward buyers, the product is quiet ok indeed  )

Where did you find those photos?

[romeo]

I can 50.000001% sure that they are not scammers  ) few local buyers have already had their orders shipped. Despite the unprofessional way they run this GB and their ****ty arrogant attitude toward buyers, the product is quiet ok indeed  )

Where did you find those photos?

from VNMK facebook group , one guy receive the 60 indeed.

[Captainbuttmonkey]

Wow, gotta say that is one hell of a surprise

[sroop]

Yeah some people got their r96 from them back in winter this year. Still doesn't mean that this isn't a selective scam.


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[Darknight00z]

Deliver to the locals (coz they know where they live), shaft the internationals

[Aktavate]

Yeah some people got their r96 from them back in winter this year. Still doesn't mean that this isn't a selective scam.


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Deliver to the locals (coz they know where they live), shaft the internationals

Exactly, they posted a photo on their blog of a couple 'complete' R96 that they were shipping out very quickly but no word on if anyone actually got them and I've never seen a picture posted anywhere.

https://makeaboard.net/2018/01/03/update-r96-2/

I can 50.000001% sure that they are not scammers  ) few local buyers have already had their orders shipped. Despite the unprofessional way they run this GB and their ****ty arrogant attitude toward buyers, the product is quiet ok indeed  )

If its such a legit company I would encourage you to have them update us all on the status here or anywhere really. Its been more than a year since they took our money for the R96 and they have refused to reply to emails for at LEAST the last 6 months. The last 'update' here was 4 months ago when they scolded us for not believing them...there is no part of this that points to it being legit.

[Captainbuttmonkey]

Ahhh yeh, very true. To be fair 50.0001% doesn't exactly imply he was certain they aren't scammers haha. I'm not in this buy fortunately, just been observing every now and then when it pops up. I hope you guys all get your stuff but unfortunately I think it's exceedingly unlikely =[. Best of luck anyway!

[Aktavate]

Ahhh yeh, very true. To be fair 50.0001% doesn't exactly imply he was certain they aren't scammers haha. I'm not in this buy fortunately, just been observing every now and then when it pops up. I hope you guys all get your stuff but unfortunately I think it's exceedingly unlikely =[. Best of luck anyway!

Haha I misread that as 50k% 

[Aktavate]

Anyone speak Vietnamese? There are a LOT of posts on the VNMK facebook group about R96 and 60S including one regarding this thread, but google translate leaves a lot to be desired.  From what I can tell it seems pretty clear that the intentionally scammed people with the international group buys in order to finance boards for locals, though I get the impression even many locals may have lost money as well.

[qq]

Anyone speak Vietnamese? There are a LOT of posts on the VNMK facebook group about R96 and 60S including one regarding this thread, but google translate leaves a lot to be desired.  From what I can tell it seems pretty clear that the intentionally scammed people with the international group buys in order to finance boards for locals, though I get the impression even many locals may have lost money as well.

All MAB members have left or been banned from the VNMK FB group so MAB team basically couldn't see or participate in any discussion about them in VNMK, though they may know via friends. Previously, VNMK tried their best to aid in communication with MAB when international buyers came and asked for help but MAB didn't seem to cooperate.
About the posts you said, people generally felt sorry and tended to give up the case since the vendor showed no sign of responsibility. I think it's safe to say at this point this GB is a scam.

[Marutks]

oh dear
I am lucky I didnt join this GB

[japanesehorrorwriter]

To build the dense knowledge in order to scam means they used to be a fellow enthusiast. Thats tragic.

[Vadurr]

This GB is officially a gonner huh? RIP

[MMKB]

RIP. About time we have a blacklist on Geekhack

[Puddsy]

RIP. About time we have a blacklist on Geekhack

caveat emptor but also yeah

[Darknight00z]

Did they even ship their artisans and 96% board?

[sroop]

Lol nope.


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[Vigrith]

There's such an extensive number of actual reputable, competent and hardworking makers in this hobby that it's hard to justify joining a GB ran by someone you don't know (or worse, as has happened multiple times for god knows what reason, people with a bad rep) these days. Really sucks for the people that did join.

[sroop]

There's such an extensive number of actual reputable, competent and hardworking makers in this hobby that it's hard to justify joining a GB ran by someone you don't know (or worse, as has happened multiple times for god knows what reason, people with a bad rep) these days. Really sucks for the people that did join.

The r96 was my first GB and it was on /r/mk before I knew about GH and the GB process here. My impatience cost me.


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[xlarti]

Apologies for resurrecting an ancient thread.

Just thought I'd chime in with my experience in case anyone still cared.
I joined the R96 GB and was so excited. I have an email correspondence with Maylily probably 30 emails long by the end of it.
Long story short: after insane waiting I received a keyboard in February 2018 - but instead of a brushed aluminium finish it's.. anodized brown.
And includes a full set of cherry mx brown switches that I never asked for, so I got someone elses order.

I asked if I could send it back and get my own order - or if they could even locate where MY order went.
After a lot of back and forth and blaming the shipping company she finally stopped replying in April and I gave up any hope of ever getting a keyboard that I'd want to actually build.
So now it sits in a drawer.
So if the person that was waiting for order number 1777 is out there somewhere patiently still waiting for his/her order:
I have it! You wouldn't happen to have my order number 1986 by chance?

[Puddsy]

Apologies for resurrecting an ancient thread.

Just thought I'd chime in with my experience in case anyone still cared.
I joined the R96 GB and was so excited. I have an email correspondence with Maylily probably 30 emails long by the end of it.
Long story short: after insane waiting I received a keyboard in February 2018 - but instead of a brushed aluminium finish it's.. anodized brown.
And includes a full set of cherry mx brown switches that I never asked for, so I got someone elses order.

I asked if I could send it back and get my own order - or if they could even locate where MY order went.
After a lot of back and forth and blaming the shipping company she finally stopped replying in April and I gave up any hope of ever getting a keyboard that I'd want to actually build.
So now it sits in a drawer.
So if the person that was waiting for order number 1777 is out there somewhere patiently still waiting for his/her order:
I have it! You wouldn't happen to have my order number 1986 by chance?

i like that it's not just anodized

it's anodized brown

[shiroshiro]

I was just happened to come across this post. I heard about this drama from last year and some of them came out and promised to fix thing right.
I am kinda surprised that they haven't done anything (frankly, some MAB's members even trashtalked when I tried to talk with them).

Sorry for digging this post up, but I am kinda sad how this drama has tighten the door for other Vietnamese maker.

[mankikami]

Accidently bump into this thread while browsing geekhack. Now I'm pretty sure the GB is officially a goner. MAB was disbanded years ago, they are not making keeb anymore, some of them are now making suit and shoes (wtf)  ) so don't be suprise if one day a set of suit and shoes show up in front of your doorstep instead )

[johuu]

Accidently bump into this thread while browsing geekhack. Now I'm pretty sure the GB is officially a goner. MAB was disbanded years ago, they are not making keeb anymore, some of them are now making suit and shoes (wtf)  ) so don't be suprise if one day a set of suit and shoes show up in front of your doorstep instead )

The emperors new clothes?

[alandelone]

MAB returned with new name Cherry Team
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/ei6zdf/gb_c21_retro_custom_numpad/

[CherryTeam]

MAB returned with new name Cherry Team
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/ei6zdf/gb_c21_retro_custom_numpad/

Really ?