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Title: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:09:25: Via Vortex's FB Page:
https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear?hc_location=stream (https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear?hc_location=stream)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1004890_536464483087933_1569014383_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Vortex Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:10:14: ::) hmmmm
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:12:59: Are you kidding me? Dude. this is awesome!

We need this with Alps!
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:13:26: Nipple.. and buttons!?!?! It also looks like they added an arrow cluster to the right. Ew.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:16:43: Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:13:26
Nipple.. and buttons!?!?! It also looks like they added an arrow cluster to the right. Ew.

It's a concept, so let's give them some constructive feed back. I think it's just about perfect if they do a short right shift and Function key.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:19:31: I didn't like this layout on the Tex Beetle and I still don't like it here. There's just too many 1x caps.

I do like how they got rid of a large right shift though. I'm realizing more and more that I only really want one shift.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:20:45: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:19:31
I didn't like this layout on the Tex Beetle and I still don't like it here. There's just too many 1x caps.

I do like how they got rid of a large right shift though. I'm realizing more and more that I only really want one shift.

"correct" touch typing requires you to alternate hands when using shift. Binge and I were just talking about this on IRC.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:21:02: Hope it is wireless
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:21:35: I'm ok with not having correct touch typing ^__^

Edit: Just realized there's a left and right click on the front face to go with the nipple. THAT'S interesting. I think I like it. And you're right, just because I only want one shift doesn't mean correct typists would want that.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:27:47: Now all we need is space for a RPi in there and we've really got something
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:30:09: Quote from: i3oilermaker on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:21:02
Hope it is wireless

Don't tease me bro.

I would sling some peanut butter for a wireless keyboard :blank:
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:31:53: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:30:09
Quote from: i3oilermaker on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:21:02
Hope it is wireless

Don't tease me bro.

I would sling some peanut butter for a wireless keyboard :blank:

You can get a wireless board right here - http://techkeys.us/collections/keyboards/products/kbtalking-pro-v1-1

I'm talking wireless 60% would be so badass
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:35:21: :rolleyes:arr...it's look a little bit strange
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:38:15: Quote from: i3oilermaker on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:31:53
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:30:09
Quote from: i3oilermaker on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:21:02
Hope it is wireless

Don't tease me bro.

I would sling some peanut butter for a wireless keyboard :blank:

You can get a wireless board right here - http://techkeys.us/collections/keyboards/products/kbtalking-pro-v1-1

I'm talking wireless 60% would be so badass

For the record I did attempt to buy one of those and it was OOS, but yes...60% wireless FTW!!
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:52:27: Damnnnn son it's the mini-guru reincarnated!
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: boost on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:54:01: man, that's seems pretty slick. I'll def get one.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:54:24: Why not just find a nice, small Tipro or Access or some other POS board?
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: pixel5 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:06:49: I'm sorry, but I think that concept is disgusting. I am glad I bought a Poker II. It is simple and minimalist.

This concept is saying, "Please kill me. It hurts to live." Maybe it would be fine if it was a Pure Pro II concept...but don't mess with what the Poker is.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:11:50: Quote from: pixel5 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:06:49
"Please kill me. It hurts to live." Maybe it would be fine if it was a Pure Pro II concept...but don't mess with what the Poker is.

^^ This would make an excellent sig quote.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:15:43: (http://8.asset.soup.io/asset/2136/3480_6f15_960.jpeg)
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: daerid on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:23:41: Quote from: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:09:25
Via Vortex's FB Page:
https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear?hc_location=stream (https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear?hc_location=stream)
Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1004890_536464483087933_1569014383_n.jpg)

Like I said on FB: Please, please don't f**k up the top row like that.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: badcop on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:48:35: Quote from: daerid on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:23:41
Quote from: jwaz on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:09:25
Via Vortex's FB Page:
https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear?hc_location=stream (https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear?hc_location=stream)
Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1004890_536464483087933_1569014383_n.jpg)

Like I said on FB: Please, please don't f**k up the top row like that.

the top row isn't an issue...its that mess on the bottom...
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: pixel5 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:53:24: Quote from: badcop on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:48:35
the top row isn't an issue...its that mess on the bottom...

...and the extra bezel on top...and the nub mouse...and the short keys...
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: rootwyrm on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:28:24: Wow.
Just wow.

The balls on Vortex. Their latest 'designs' are literally rebranding off the shelf Ducky. We've already established this as fact. And they think somehow they're gonna get IBM or Lenovo to just license them the TrackPoint IV? (The other ones out there are pure junk. I have used them.) HA!
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:05:48: Would never buy, looks like the same mess from the Pure Pro. To many 1x1 keys, what do you need 4 keys left of the spacebar for, and 6 keys to the right of it? Split backspace, tiny spacebar, just too many non-standard keys, you will never really find a complete kit for that, except if you make one. Why try so hard to get as many keys as possible on one board? Why do you need that on a 60%? Why not get a TKL instead?

The trackpoint could be nice but apart from that I don't like it at all.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: rinv on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:09:17: seems weird that have the Poker III and the KBT Race II both be 75% boards. I kind of thought the Poker II was going to be their 75% board and the KBT Race was their 60% board..
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:09:34: This is still MILES and MILES behind the superior EDx

Idk what you guys are excited about.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:12:52: The only way forward with keyboards, is placing a trackpoint on the ergodox..

Anyone who continue to default to staggered is wasting their time.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:29:04: Quote from: rinv on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:09:17
seems weird that have the Poker III and the KBT Race II both be 75% boards. I kind of thought the Poker II was going to be their 75% board and the KBT Race was their 60% board..

Actually the Race is their 75% keyboard and the Poker their 60%. The size of the case of this will be about the size of a current 60% and they will probably classify it as a 60%, they call the Pure Pro which has the same layout but with ISO enter 60% too.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: bigx333 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:33:23: Someone actually find any use on trackpoints?
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: pixel5 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:35:45: Quote from: bigx333 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:33:23
Someone actually find any use on trackpoints?

I've never seen anyone use one. Ever.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:37:27: It conjured up memories of the miniguru. I would have preferred them to have copied it a little bit more faithfully.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:38:41: I sort of like the design, even if keycaps will be a pain. It's a great server room keyboard. I have always maintained they had good designs, it's the execution that s*cks.

Unfortunately, being Vortex, the paint on the case will flake off if anything other than black, if it has PBT keycaps the legends will scrap off with a fingernail in 3 strokes and if the keys are backlit, they will be painted and will last about 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: daerid on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:58:10: I used to rock the trackpoint on my old Inspiron 8200 like a madman. I still think if done right it can be a supremely useful pointing device, especially for us keyboard folk
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: davkol on Thu, 01 August 2013, 07:23:34: I know it's just a rendering, but it's ugly.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: badcop on Thu, 01 August 2013, 08:22:30: Quote from: pixel5 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:35:45
Quote from: bigx333 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:33:23
Someone actually find any use on trackpoints?

I've never seen anyone use one. Ever.

i used the trackpoint a lot on my old work IBM T61. i liked it because i didnt have to take my hands off homerow to use the mouse. that being said, i dont think i'd ever use one if i had a mouse handy like on a desktop.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: QueenXenon on Thu, 01 August 2013, 08:44:33: Quote from: badcop on Thu, 01 August 2013, 08:22:30
Quote from: pixel5 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:35:45
Quote from: bigx333 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 15:33:23
Someone actually find any use on trackpoints?

I've never seen anyone use one. Ever.

i used the trackpoint a lot on my old work IBM T61. i liked it because i didnt have to take my hands off homerow to use the mouse. that being said, i dont think i'd ever use one if i had a mouse handy like on a desktop.

I'm a fan of the 60% with an integrated mouse (the board I'm using now has a trackpad on it), but I'd hike across the country if it meant avoiding the nubbins. Badcop makes a good point about not leaving the home row, but it just always gets in the way (my laptop has one) and I could never control it like a trackpad or mouse
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 01 August 2013, 08:52:48: Not a bad idea, but too many keys left of the space, too many 1x, go with a 1.75 right shift and FN key to the right of that, and maybe shake up the modifiers with some 1.5x keys.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: davkol on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:07:36: Throw at me as many keys as possible, especially on the homerow... as long as they're programmable. I want easily accessible AltGr and Win on both sides.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: Grimey on Thu, 01 August 2013, 11:01:20: Quote from: davkol on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:07:36
Throw at me as many keys as possible, especially on the homerow... as long as they're programmable. I want easily accessible AltGr and Win on both sides.

I would follow this, but don't make the spacebar any larger than the standard US-ANSI right shift (~2.75 units I suspect). I don't mind things like this, but don't make the spacebar impossible to source an alternative for.
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: neoezekiel on Fri, 02 August 2013, 00:47:28: Quote from: dnix on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:52:27
Damnnnn son it's the mini-guru reincarnated!

Exactly what I was thinking, They should add a middle click though :/
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 02 August 2013, 04:57:13: Quote from: neoezekiel on Fri, 02 August 2013, 00:47:28
Quote from: dnix on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:52:27
Damnnnn son it's the mini-guru reincarnated!

Exactly what I was thinking, They should add a middle click though :/

Literally NO thought went into their rendering.

The thumb buttons should NOT be vertical like that.

If you press it hard, not only could you push the board forwards, but you may lift the board as well.

The mouse buttons should be on a SLANT.....

This is how you can tell they have NO passion...
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: roaming pear on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:50:19: Has there been any updates on a poker III? or did that never see the light of day?
Title: Re: Vortex Concept Rendering of Poker III (aka Mini Guru x HHKB)
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:58:11: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65569.0

a bit more info but I think nothing solid has come out yet.