Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 26 September 2019, 13:58:48
(https://i.imgur.com/WFor0mg.jpg)
The time has come. Gaskety goodness in PLA with FR4 plates - some would call this the ultimate symphony of keyboard acoustics.
iT SoUndS gOoD
50 kits to be made.
$185 per kit, which includes:
1x Top Case
1x Bottom case
1x KBD75v2 PCB (QMK, RGB, USB-C)
1x Universal FR4 plate
1x kit of the gaskets and hardware required to fasten everything
Extra tops are $15/ea. The seamless design enables the whole color of the keyboard to be changed simply by swapping the top.
Timeline:
Sept 27 - GB start
Oct 10 - GB ends (or sooner if all spots fill up)
All invoices are to be paid 3 days after the GB ends.
Production of cases - 1 to 1.5 months.
Mid November - Shipping from keyboardbelle to you.
Shipping will be invoiced at the time of sending.
Get your email on the list to be alerted when the GB goes live: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1VkgtQaPXIPRx9J6Xse1AHdxa1se8oO-2yNsyoeQKka0
GB Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15ar02-RgUPzcjmuFPTOiyYL8cj3GPIZq4uLFPsqxtCo
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 27 September 2019, 08:45:53
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 10:21:09
GL, nice board!
Thanks Dad :-*
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 10:33:38
Post by: Hell-es on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:29:56
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:57:05
Nice - really keen on joining, any estimations about shipping cost to germany ?
$20-25 dollars? Do a USPS shipping calculation for just under a KG from the US.
Post by: DetectiveNio on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:11:21
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:22:59
Do we just email you for top/color changing?
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Yep. I'll also accept smoke signals and messages in a bottle.
Post by: Bayhan on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:48:41
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Post by: Yeoh on Fri, 27 September 2019, 13:22:20
iT SoUndS gOoD
Where the sound test at?
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 13:23:57
iT SoUndS gOoD
Where the sound test at?
feature=youtu.be
It was taken with a DLSR sitting on the desk, so it sounds a little harsher than it would to your ears.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 14:43:36
Also, please put your full address. I've seen a few people just put a street address in the form. I'm not trying to play a game of guess the state/country/postal code :P
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 27 September 2019, 18:29:09
And cancellations/people who fail to pay invoices will forefit their spots, would extras might be available.
Thanks all.
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Post by: Datastream on Sat, 28 September 2019, 06:43:17
When will the invoices go out? And to the email filled in the form, right?
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Post by: iJeeSung on Sat, 28 September 2019, 10:12:06
Hi! Should I be concerned if i have not received submission confirmation nor invoice since the form is now closed.I don’t think you should be too worried. Earlier in the post he mentions that he’s getting his ducks in order before sending out the invoices. I’d give it til the end of the weekend.
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 28 September 2019, 15:08:46
Hi! Should I be concerned if i have not received submission confirmation nor invoice since the form is now closed.I don’t think you should be too worried. Earlier in the post he mentions that he’s getting his ducks in order before sending out the invoices. I’d give it til the end of the weekend.
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Just waiting for Belle to finish getting her Nouvelle GB shipped out, so don't panic if you don't get an invoice for a couple days. I'm just waiting on her giving the go ahead before I start invoicing.
Post by: iJeeSung on Mon, 30 September 2019, 02:57:36
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Post by: DetectiveNio on Mon, 30 September 2019, 07:37:54
I’m concerned about the weight of the keyboard(light feels cheap). Any suggested methods for adding weight to it?I assume there should be some space under the PCB. I'll just cut a copper sheet and place it in there
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 30 September 2019, 08:56:50
I’m concerned about the weight of the keyboard(light feels cheap). Any suggested methods for adding weight to it?
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It's actually quite hefty since the prints are high infill. But as the user above me said, throwing a metal sheet in will be the best way. I'll get the proper dimensions for those that want to do that.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 01 October 2019, 20:34:24
For those wondering about the case dimensions for sleeves and such, its 34 x 14 x 4
Thanks all,
Andy
Post by: thecezar on Wed, 02 October 2019, 16:06:28
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 02 October 2019, 16:21:36
Got invoiced then it was cancelled 30 minutes later. Was this accidental ?
I explained it in the cancellation email. Just a hiccup with the PayPal verification since I'm not doing the shipping (keyboardbelle is), I don't have shipping labels to input to get the money released. I'll get it sorted and start again tonight! Sorry for the mixup.
Post by: iJeeSung on Wed, 02 October 2019, 19:28:29
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 02 October 2019, 19:31:34
Do you have considerations for a polycarbonate printed case seeing how that seems to be the current rage right now?
I don't think there is polycarbonate filament - it has to be machined from blocks. With that being said PLA is very similar in density and appearance to PC
Post by: yohannes on Thu, 03 October 2019, 02:05:24
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 03 October 2019, 02:45:10
Hi! Can you make the announcement here when all invoices are dispatched?
Of course. I got all the PayPal stuff sorted and sent the first half tonight. The other half I'll do tomorrow night.
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Post by: iJeeSung on Thu, 03 October 2019, 23:56:48
Hi! Just want to confirm the invoice amount already includes shipping & handling fee right for the amount is higher than USD185? (I don't remmeber whether the form asked for shipping address. if it does, i surely add my address in)Yeah same situation here.
Edit* it noted the shipping in the invoice. We gud
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 04 October 2019, 00:41:27
Hi! Just want to confirm the invoice amount already includes shipping & handling fee right for the amount is higher than USD185? (I don't remmeber whether the form asked for shipping address. if it does, i surely add my address in)
If you wanted one kit, its $185 + $15 shipping conus = $200
If you got an extra top, its $185 + $15 for extra top + $15 Shipping = $215
Also, if you're not in CONUS, I made it clear in the invoice that I'm charging you for shipping later, once the cases are made, since I don't have a contract for international flat rate. Should be a reasonable amount for USPS though.
Also, all invoices are out except for one user who wanted multiple tops but didn't contact me.
Post by: iJeeSung on Fri, 04 October 2019, 01:03:11
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 10 October 2019, 23:38:34
Don't hesitate to reach out to rndkbd@gmail.com (You can PM, but I'll just make you email me so I have all my GB communication in one place) if you've got any questions. I'll try and post updates every couple days, even if it's just a "just waiting for things, Belle and I still walk this earth" type of thing.
Thanks all, can't wait for everyone to enjoy their boards.
- Typed on a PLA75
Post by: Datastream on Wed, 16 October 2019, 05:55:58
Quote
I'll try and post updates every couple days, even if it's just a "just waiting for things, Belle and I still walk this earth" type of thing.
Appreciated dude
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 16 October 2019, 07:07:32
PCB order is placed with Wei, I'll submit the plate order when I have some time this weekend.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 18 October 2019, 16:26:22
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 19 October 2019, 20:00:24
Andy
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Post by: iJeeSung on Tue, 22 October 2019, 03:05:33
thank you for the great communication so far on this GB, keep it upWish I could thumbs up to show I agree. This quote will have to suffice
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 26 October 2019, 21:02:10
Printing is going well, I'll share a little tale of troubleshooting on the fly with you:
Belle's printers do not have removable sheets like those fancy store bought units, so she's gotta pry the bases off the PEI sheets... not good for the PLA75, as we don't want defects. Pulling by the USB cutout resulted in those warping, so we had to come up with something else.
(https://i.imgur.com/jgf4kSy.png)
Since the bottom is completely surrounded by the top shroud, there are two little pry slots printed into the case to allow a pair of screwdrivers and some strong hands to lift the cases off the print bed - pretty nifty IMHO.
So yeah, production continues, Belle is getting those fresh PEI sheets on the beds this weekend, and then the production of the tops will begin on those perfectly pristine smooth sheets :thumb:
Have a good weekend y'all
Andy
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:51:41
Are we on track for mid nov delivery? :)
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I'm not sure how far along Belle is with the printing, but she mentioned doing the translucent ones first, so the delivery date might be a little later for the colored cases/tops. On the order of a week or two, no insane multi month delay.
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 29 October 2019, 11:06:27
Post by: Oni74 on Tue, 29 October 2019, 18:28:36
I'm very excited to try this. Take your timeBut not too much time... ;-)
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 31 October 2019, 21:17:44
Happy Halloween. Bottoms are coming out nicely.
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 31 October 2019, 21:30:36
Post by: TieuNgu on Sat, 02 November 2019, 13:27:26
I'm just wondering if these foams work / help improving the sound of this board?
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 02 November 2019, 17:20:31
https://mkultra.click/collections/75/products/kbd75v1-foam-combo
I'm just wondering if these foams work / help improving the sound of this board?
Yeah, they should fit. Can't comment on how they'll affect the sound profile of the board though. I may have to try one from mkultra
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 05 November 2019, 23:07:28
Working through printing at a good pace. I sent a prototype plate to Belle so she can make a build and test fit every unit before it is shipped out. Plates for the GB still have yet to be ordered, as I'm waiting for the ADK18 plates to come in so I can evaluate how the fit is, since I'm getting plates cut at a different place than the PLA75 prototypes. However, those are in my city and I think I can pick them up Wed/Thurs, so I'll get the order for the PLA75 plates submitted before the end of the week - and its DHL, so it comes really fast and Belle's printing will still be the slowest link ;)
Also, I'm officially letting you guys know that the fulfillment date for these is going to spill into December - no major setbacks, I just overestimated the print capacity we were working with. My apologies.
What switches/caps are y'all planning on putting in these? I've got lubed T1s in my proto, and I think I'm gonna do Kalih Creams in a second build for the ultimate linear sound.
Post by: Datastream on Wed, 06 November 2019, 05:46:47
I'm planning on putting silent inks in it or silent ink in cream. PBT caps on it probably
Post by: Bayhan on Wed, 06 November 2019, 09:01:41
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Post by: infinitecurry on Wed, 06 November 2019, 10:23:23
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 November 2019, 11:02:52
A typical top finish is this (please look at the imgur album)
http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd (http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd)
(https://i.imgur.com/GyP8eEc.jpg)
She's printing a few more to evaluate - I just want to make sure these are consistent with your expectations for the surface finish. If this is acceptable to most, then full steam ahead - if not, I'll be offering a color change - there are some translucent filaments with a hint of color that would both hide surface flaws and give a little color to the build.
Please stay tuned for more pics, and let me know what you think.
Andy
Post by: Oni74 on Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:03:51
Hi everyone, I need some feedback. Belle is concerned about the finish of the colored tops, as opaque filament doesn't have the amazing flaw hiding ability that translucent ones do.Definitely not a fan of what's going on at the edges.
A typical top finish is this (please look at the imgur album)
http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd (http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GyP8eEc.jpg)
She's printing a few more to evaluate - I just want to make sure these are consistent with your expectations for the surface finish. If this is acceptable to most, then full steam ahead - if not, I'll be offering a color change - there are some translucent filaments with a hint of color that would both hide surface flaws and give a little color to the build.
Please stay tuned for more pics, and let me know what you think.
Andy
Thanks for bringing this to our attention!! Let's figure this out together.
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Post by: infinitecurry on Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:09:35
Hi everyone, I need some feedback. Belle is concerned about the finish of the colored tops, as opaque filament doesn't have the amazing flaw hiding ability that translucent ones do.
A typical top finish is this (please look at the imgur album)
http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd (http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GyP8eEc.jpg)
She's printing a few more to evaluate - I just want to make sure these are consistent with your expectations for the surface finish. If this is acceptable to most, then full steam ahead - if not, I'll be offering a color change - there are some translucent filaments with a hint of color that would both hide surface flaws and give a little color to the build.
Please stay tuned for more pics, and let me know what you think.
Andy
I forget what I ordered (iirc it was a translucent filament anyways) but I would probably switch to a translucent filament if I got opaque.
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:11:04
Hi everyone, I need some feedback. Belle is concerned about the finish of the colored tops, as opaque filament doesn't have the amazing flaw hiding ability that translucent ones do.I'd vote for a translucent filament as well if that finish can be avoided.
A typical top finish is this (please look at the imgur album)
http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd (http://imgur.com/gallery/fM3zqQd)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GyP8eEc.jpg)
She's printing a few more to evaluate - I just want to make sure these are consistent with your expectations for the surface finish. If this is acceptable to most, then full steam ahead - if not, I'll be offering a color change - there are some translucent filaments with a hint of color that would both hide surface flaws and give a little color to the build.
Please stay tuned for more pics, and let me know what you think.
Andy
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:41:28
I'm thinking we can use https://www.3dsolutech.com/store/pla (check page 2 for the see through stuff). It'll be a splash of color with the defect hiding properties of translucent filament.
So that's my plan to make this work - I'm sorry that we've gotta make changes, but I'd rather the transparent (heh) and make sure people are getting good stuff.
A final note: the printing defects are an artifact of how large these pieces are, and maintaining thermal stability on a plate that large is very difficult. As y'all know, keyboardbelle is an expert at this stuff, but sometimes you just run into physical limitations. Structural flatness is easily achievable (the bottoms are dead flat, but you don't see the odd defect since it's face down), but of course it's not the case on the tops.
Let me know if that works. Andy
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:57:02
Seems like a consensus so far. So here's the plan. Belle wanted a few more days to see if a little more tweaking could make the difference, so I'll give her that. If we've got no luck, I'll contact everyone who got colored tops and offer them an exchange.Sounds perfectly reasonable. Thanks.
I'm thinking we can use https://www.3dsolutech.com/store/pla (check page 2 for the see through stuff). It'll be a splash of color with the defect hiding properties of translucent filament.
So that's my plan to make this work - I'm sorry that we've gotta make changes, but I'd rather the transparent (heh) and make sure people are getting good stuff.
A final note: the printing defects are an artifact of how large these pieces are, and maintaining thermal stability on a plate that large is very difficult. As y'all know, keyboardbelle is an expert at this stuff, but sometimes you just run into physical limitations. Structural flatness is easily achievable (the bottoms are dead flat, but you don't see the odd defect since it's face down), but of course it's not the case on the tops.
Let me know if that works. Andy
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:58:21
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 November 2019, 19:07:45
I'll contact everyone who has a colored case, and give them some options to switch - people may have/want to decrease the amount of tops they're ordered, and I have no problem with that.
Belle is printing a sample with the colored yet see through filament, as she happened to have a roll on hand, so rather than waiting for a week to see how that is we will know tomorrow. I hope that is a reasonable compromise, because as simple as it would be to force everyone to have a translucent top, I want to give some options for different builds.
And, seeing as how I can't please everyone, I'll be making a shortlist of respondents to this thread if anyone ends up dropping. Email rndkbd@gmail.com if you'd like a spot on that waitlist.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 November 2019, 19:22:52
Hi there, if you've been following the PLA75 GB thread you may be aware of the issues regarding the surface finish of the top cases - if not, here's the coles notes:
Due to the size of the print and the imperfections inherent in any build plate, there are some imperfections on the tops of the build - you can see pictures here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102633.msg2831196#msg2831196
Keep in mind that this is 3D printed and not CNC milled, but with that being said I'd like to offer everyone the opportunity to swap to a translucent (or colored see through, see attached image) top. We are printing a sample with an orange translucent filament, and will have pictures tomorrow. You'd be able to adjust the amount of tops as well, and you will be refunded if you'd like to decrease the amount (I completely understand!)
So please let me know if:
a) I understand the imperfections that may be present on a colored top and I'd like to keep my order as is
b) I'd like to switch to translucent top(s), as they don't show the printing defects
c) I'd like to switch to a colored translucent top. Pictures will be available tomorrow of a sample.
Check your PayPal invoice if you aren't familiar with what you ordered to save some back and forth. Please be timely with your response, as I want to keep this group buy moving - this is not a "disaster," I'd just like to ensure everyone is happy with what they are getting, and should not majorly impact the timeline of the group buy.
Andy
Attached image: (https://i.imgur.com/Ub8MLyG.png)
So yeah, I'd rather give everyone a heads up and an opportunity to switch than have some people not be satisfied when the GB ships.
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 07 November 2019, 21:26:33
Just sent an email to all participants:Thank you !! I'd reply to the email once the sample pics are in.
Hi there, if you've been following the PLA75 GB thread you may be aware of the issues regarding the surface finish of the top cases - if not, here's the coles notes:
Due to the size of the print and the imperfections inherent in any build plate, there are some imperfections on the tops of the build - you can see pictures here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102633.msg2831196#msg2831196
Keep in mind that this is 3D printed and not CNC milled, but with that being said I'd like to offer everyone the opportunity to swap to a translucent (or colored see through, see attached image) top. We are printing a sample with an orange translucent filament, and will have pictures tomorrow. You'd be able to adjust the amount of tops as well, and you will be refunded if you'd like to decrease the amount (I completely understand!)
So please let me know if:
a) I understand the imperfections that may be present on a colored top and I'd like to keep my order as is
b) I'd like to switch to translucent top(s), as they don't show the printing defects
c) I'd like to switch to a colored translucent top. Pictures will be available tomorrow of a sample.
Check your PayPal invoice if you aren't familiar with what you ordered to save some back and forth. Please be timely with your response, as I want to keep this group buy moving - this is not a "disaster," I'd just like to ensure everyone is happy with what they are getting, and should not majorly impact the timeline of the group buy.
Andy
Attached image:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Ub8MLyG.png)
So yeah, I'd rather give everyone a heads up and an opportunity to switch than have some people not be satisfied when the GB ships.
Post by: Datastream on Fri, 08 November 2019, 02:44:37
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 08 November 2019, 10:15:58
There is an example of a colored yet translucent filament. The finish is much nicer, and the semi-transparency keep everything looking nice. Belle and I are happy with these, so onward we forge. We've got a black carbon fiber printing right now, so I'll get pics of that up if it turns out as well, as a lot of people wanted a black case.
So we will see how the carbon fiber goes, then please get back to me via email.
Andy
Post by: Oni74 on Fri, 08 November 2019, 10:33:03
Post by: keyboardbelle on Fri, 08 November 2019, 11:37:16
Thanks for the update. I'll wait for the black CF picture before deciding, and will reply to your email.
The black CF is printing right now, so we'll get those pictures updated as soon as it finishes.
Large scale 3D printing is still somewhat the Wild West, so I want to make sure I'm balancing what is possible to make with what materials will look the best.
I had some scraps of a color-changing 3M 1080 vinyl wrap Yung Brick print, so those are posted below (I am not an expert in vinyl wrapping, but there should be guides online and it involves a heat gun, craft knife, and some decent vinyl.
Also, I just quickly trimmed the corners. There must be a guide to folding them properly.
(http://i.imgur.com/At1SD4l.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/h6wTemX.png)
Post by: Capsy on Fri, 08 November 2019, 15:09:31
Wow that looks amazing hahaThanks for the update. I'll wait for the black CF picture before deciding, and will reply to your email.
The black CF is printing right now, so we'll get those pictures updated as soon as it finishes.
Large scale 3D printing is still somewhat the Wild West, so I want to make sure I'm balancing what is possible to make with what materials will look the best.
I had some scraps of a color-changing 3M 1080 vinyl wrap Yung Brick print, so those are posted below (I am not an expert in vinyl wrapping, but there should be guides online and it involves a heat gun, craft knife, and some decent vinyl.
Also, I just quickly trimmed the corners. There must be a guide to folding them properly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/At1SD4l.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h6wTemX.png)
Post by: wonderfulrobot on Fri, 08 November 2019, 16:26:58
Even more excited about a colored translucent top than my original order
Oh and....
+1000 on the communications on this GB
Post by: keyboardbelle on Fri, 08 November 2019, 17:49:25
(http://i.imgur.com/1ggR1ub.png)
If I hold my breath, I think I can print at least a few carbon fiber tops this quality.
I just started another Yung Brick since the first one came out well, so I'll keep pictures posted.
There's some luck involved in this - I don't mind burning through a few rolls of Carbon Fiber if the print success rate is decent.
I may go ahead and wrap these in paper and label them so they don't get scratches.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 08 November 2019, 18:06:08
Post by: Oni74 on Fri, 08 November 2019, 18:29:43
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 08 November 2019, 18:34:10
Post by: keyboardbelle on Sun, 10 November 2019, 08:51:13
I really dig the black CF.
I kept printing the Yung Brick Carbon Fiber since it was turning out so well. A 45 degree top is printing right now, so I will get pictures of those.
Layer alignment is tricky for something this wide, so we'll see how it turns out.
I usually 3D print my own designs over and over and tweak the angles until they reliably print.
In theory though the 45 degree should work well though.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 10 November 2019, 21:45:08
(https://i.imgur.com/sHCsRQh.jpg)
45 degree in carbon fiber looking awesome :thumb:
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 11 November 2019, 14:36:25
All non-responders will get their cases printed as invoiced.
Also, Belle wants to clear her workspace a bit, and since she has been printing all the translucent cases while we get the colored ones worked out, shes almost done all of them and will be shipping them right away! I'd like to remind non-US customers that you were not invoiced at the GB, and will be invoiced for shipping when your case is ready to be sent. Please get those invoices in promptly.
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 11 November 2019, 14:37:33
I'm setting end of day Thursday as the cutoff for getting back to me on changing top colors, as I think a week is fair.Woohoo we're almost there
All non-responders will get their cases printed as invoiced.
Also, Belle wants to clear workspace a bit, and since she has been printing all the translucent cases while we get the colored ones worked out, shes almost done all of them and will be shipping them right away! I'd like to remind non-US customers that you were not invoiced at the GB, and will be invoiced for shipping when your case is ready to be sent. Please get those invoices in promptly.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 11 November 2019, 14:40:27
I'm setting end of day Thursday as the cutoff for getting back to me on changing top colors, as I think a week is fair.Woohoo we're almost there
All non-responders will get their cases printed as invoiced.
Also, Belle wants to clear workspace a bit, and since she has been printing all the translucent cases while we get the colored ones worked out, shes almost done all of them and will be shipping them right away! I'd like to remind non-US customers that you were not invoiced at the GB, and will be invoiced for shipping when your case is ready to be sent. Please get those invoices in promptly.
Yessir! Also, I'm happy to report that I've only had one out of 50 spots drop (and was promptly filled) - so thanks for having faith everyone :D
Post by: Oni74 on Mon, 11 November 2019, 16:44:40
I'm setting end of day Thursday as the cutoff for getting back to me on changing top colors, as I think a week is fair.
All non-responders will get their cases printed as invoiced.
Also, Belle wants to clear her workspace a bit, and since she has been printing all the translucent cases while we get the colored ones worked out, shes almost done all of them and will be shipping them right away! I'd like to remind non-US customers that you were not invoiced at the GB, and will be invoiced for shipping when your case is ready to be sent. Please get those invoices in promptly.
wait. do you mean translucent orders will ship right away or all orders (once colored tops are printed) will ship as soon as they are done?
I've added a 3rd top due to the successful Black CF top and will pay shipping invoice right-away to avoid any delays.
Thank you and Keyboardbelle for the timely communication and fast turn-around. This is the smoothest GB I've joined to date. <Maybe ADK18 will be smoother but that's for a numpad ;-) >
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 11 November 2019, 16:51:57
I'm setting end of day Thursday as the cutoff for getting back to me on changing top colors, as I think a week is fair.
All non-responders will get their cases printed as invoiced.
Also, Belle wants to clear her workspace a bit, and since she has been printing all the translucent cases while we get the colored ones worked out, shes almost done all of them and will be shipping them right away! I'd like to remind non-US customers that you were not invoiced at the GB, and will be invoiced for shipping when your case is ready to be sent. Please get those invoices in promptly.
wait. do you mean translucent orders will ship right away or all orders (once colored tops are printed) will ship as soon as they are done?
I've added a 3rd top due to the successful Black CF top and will pay shipping invoice right-away to avoid any delays.
Thank you and Keyboardbelle for the timely communication and fast turn-around. This is the smoothest GB I've joined to date. <Maybe ADK18 will be smoother but that's for a numpad ;-) >
I'm setting end of day Thursday as the cutoff for getting back to me on changing top colors, as I think a week is fair.
All non-responders will get their cases printed as invoiced.
Also, Belle wants to clear her workspace a bit, and since she has been printing all the translucent cases while we get the colored ones worked out, shes almost done all of them and will be shipping them right away! I'd like to remind non-US customers that you were not invoiced at the GB, and will be invoiced for shipping when your case is ready to be sent. Please get those invoices in promptly.
wait. do you mean translucent orders will ship right away or all orders (once colored tops are printed) will ship as soon as they are done?
I've added a 3rd top due to the successful Black CF top and will pay shipping invoice right-away to avoid any delays.
Thank you and Keyboardbelle for the timely communication and fast turn-around. This is the smoothest GB I've joined to date. <Maybe ADK18 will be smoother but that's for a numpad ;-) >
Orders that contain only translucent parts should ship soon. If you've got a mix of translucent and colors, it's gotta wait a bit.
ADK18 is all finished, everything passed QC, and is shipping to Nachie tomorrow. (Holiday today in Canada)
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 15 November 2019, 19:59:24
Plates had a minor hiccup (damn JLC and their large drill bits), so those should be shipping to Belle with DHL next week, as those are the holdup for completed translucent orders shipping to you.
I've been sleeping on emails, so anyone that waned an extra top will be invoiced soon.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 21 November 2019, 02:35:12
Plates are on a plane from Shenzhen, they look nice :D
(https://i.imgur.com/FQlHKbg.jpg)
People who ordered a venty, I have a question about a printability change - as I printed the test units on my prusa, which has a different surface from belle's printer, they may need a slight change to yield the best result. Here are my proposed small changes:
1) Add a crossbar - this makes it so that the vents are still connected on the first layer, which makes adhesion much easier since its one large surface, rather than a bunch of small ones.
(https://i.imgur.com/uHiyGVh.jpg)
2) make the vents and gaps larger - I don't have an image of this right now as I am away from my CAD software, but it would just be larger vent cutouts and larger gaps. I was told this may also work.
Let me know what you prefer.
Andy
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 24 November 2019, 01:46:39
Here is a little show off of mine. Only a few weeks and you'll have yours ;)
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 24 November 2019, 19:30:47
Venty images coming soon. Decided to just make the vents a tiny bit larger, and keep the crossbar in my back pocket if needed.
Here is a little show off of mine. Only a few weeks and you'll have yours ;)
This looks good. Is this the translucent one? I might change my color choice to this :confused: :confused:
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 24 November 2019, 20:16:58
Venty images coming soon. Decided to just make the vents a tiny bit larger, and keep the crossbar in my back pocket if needed.
Here is a little show off of mine. Only a few weeks and you'll have yours ;)
This looks good. Is this the translucent one? I might change my color choice to this :confused: :confused:
It's the same as in the images all the way back to the IC. Not doing changes now, as over half the stuff is already made.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 27 November 2019, 13:41:40
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Z0UAAOSwjfNZnGKX/s-l300.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lHabYZU.png)
Almost there. Still expecting to ship a majority of the kits on Nov 30. The venty cases are coming out nicely, and remind me of the nintendo zapper ;)
Plates have been delivered, PCBs are ready, gasket material is in, nuts/screws are in, and Belle has got boxes ready to go. US customers have already paid shipping, INTL customers will be invoiced through Belle's shopify store.
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 27 November 2019, 13:43:28
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Post by: DetectiveNio on Wed, 27 November 2019, 18:53:30
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Post by: keyboardbelle on Fri, 29 November 2019, 20:43:53
Friend is helping me with shipping, we plan to check each lower and top to make sure the screws line up properly
*EDIT* Apparently my friend still had family over for Thanksgiving holiday, so we'll work on these through the weekend to have the majority in the mail on Monday. I should have more tops printed and ready to match with orders anyway.
We'll wrap extra tops and the lower/top combo in paper to help protect everything during shipping.
About four feet of gasket material will be included with each PLA75. Around 3.3ft or 1 meter is required for assembly.
Feet included are the 1/2" diameter polyurethane feet and some taller optional polyurethane feet for the back if people decide they want an even steeper angle.
I'll send out international invoices tomorrow and weigh each order to correctly calculate the shipping with the invoice.
Post by: johnnysstash on Sun, 01 December 2019, 16:50:13
First off, I'd like to thank Brittney for getting mine out as a 'sample run' to see how shipping and first build goes!
So, here is my opinion, the board looks and sounds awesome! The gasket mounting is unique and seemed to work pretty well in my short experience using it so far. The RGB underglow on the clear base is pretty sweet, as well. I did have a small complaint as far as how the base and top were attached. The nut that sits inside of a cutout on the top has just a little bit of extra room, which allows it to wiggle, so that takes a little time to align and get right, but once you get them in they seem nice and snug with no issues! this is the reason i said mostly at the top as i have only gotten 4 of the screws/nuts in but have to disassemble to fix the left ctrl...
I am going to give it a little more use before my full opinion, but so far it's solid! Can't wait to see more builds coming soon! [attachimg=1]
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 01 December 2019, 18:07:01
The first PLA75 has been assembled! (Mostly)
First off, I'd like to thank Brittney for getting mine out as a 'sample run' to see how shipping and first build goes!
So, here is my opinion, the board looks and sounds awesome! The gasket mounting is unique and seemed to work pretty well in my short experience using it so far. The RGB underglow on the clear base is pretty sweet, as well. I did have a small complaint as far as how the base and top were attached. The nut that sits inside of a cutout on the top has just a little bit of extra room, which allows it to wiggle, so that takes a little time to align and get right, but once you get them in they seem nice and snug with no issues! this is the reason i said mostly at the top as i have only gotten 4 of the screws/nuts in but have to disassemble to fix the left ctrl...
I am going to give it a little more use before my full opinion, but so far it's solid! Can't wait to see more builds coming soon! (Attachment Link)
Looks great. We opted to make the slots for the nuts a little loose rather than too tight. They were so tight on my prototype that I had to file out the slots - so I'd rather have a little frustration on assembly than potentially making people destroy their tops to get them together. Might I suggest slotting the nut, putting a screw in to locate it, and adding just a dab of white glue (that Elmers stuff I used to eat in second grade should work) to keep it steady for building. That glue is pretty weak so if something goes haywire you can just rip it out.
Looks like belle has 25/50 orders ready to ship for tomorrow. Full disclosure, I wasn't thinking when I originally ordered screws/nuts, and only ordered square nuts for ~50/71 tops - totally overlooked the fact that I was giving the option for extra tops. Another bag of square nuts was already shipped to Belle this weekend with upgraded shipping (from China, nobody in the US sells these... so hopefully no more than a week-10 days), so that's the best I can do to fix my oversight. I apologize in advance to the unlucky folks who are getting theirs a little later.
Please post pictures of your completed builds so I can gather up a portfolio of what people end up doing with my case designs :D I love nice pictures.
Andy
Post by: VipermanGT2 on Sun, 01 December 2019, 18:51:05
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 01 December 2019, 19:00:09
But what are those black/red/gray keycaps in the photo. I need those in my life!I think that's GMK carbon.
Post by: johnnysstash on Sun, 01 December 2019, 19:10:15
Post by: VipermanGT2 on Sun, 01 December 2019, 22:04:30
I thought GMK Carbon sets had orange in them. I mean the first photo in the OP post. There's red on em. Is the Red Honey mixed with another set?But what are those black/red/gray keycaps in the photo. I need those in my life!I think that's GMK carbon.
Post by: NeroGrave on Mon, 02 December 2019, 01:37:49
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 02 December 2019, 10:31:43
I thought GMK Carbon sets had orange in them. I mean the first photo in the OP post. There's red on em. Is the Red Honey mixed with another set?But what are those black/red/gray keycaps in the photo. I need those in my life!I think that's GMK carbon.
The one in OP is gmk Yuri. The video I posted on page 3 of this thread is gmk Jamon.
Post by: DetectiveNio on Tue, 03 December 2019, 20:49:49
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 04 December 2019, 18:31:05
Will you be releasing the plate file after the GB end? Have a few kbd75 pcbs laying around. Might as well put them to use
I've got spare FR4 plates if you'd like extras. It'll be much cheaper than getting your own made! DM me.
Post by: xanserkx on Thu, 05 December 2019, 03:51:02
Post by: keyboardbelle on Thu, 05 December 2019, 09:02:19
Waiting on the extra parts to arrive for the rest.
I also tapped the lower M3 holes with an M3.3 bit to make them a little easier to assemble - if there's any plastic "dust" left over in the packages.
There are two orders with multiple color tops, so those will be the last ones to ship out - I reprinted some of the color tops to get better quality, so those may take just a bit longer.
Thanks!
Post by: Oni74 on Thu, 05 December 2019, 20:36:46
Just a quick update, around half have been shipped out.
Waiting on the extra parts to arrive for the rest.
I also tapped the lower M3 holes with an M3.3 bit to make them a little easier to assemble - if there's any plastic "dust" left over in the packages.
There are two orders with multiple color tops, so those will be the last ones to ship out - I reprinted some of the color tops to get better quality, so those may take just a bit longer.
Thanks!
Thanks for the update!
I think i'm one of those two orders with multiple color tops - would my order be delivered by week of 12/20?
Post by: DetectiveNio on Thu, 05 December 2019, 22:39:59
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 06 December 2019, 03:47:21
Can we still buy extra bottoms? My only feedback is that the holes on the bottom are too small for the screws to go thru. One actually got stuck :(
Weird. As Belle said we also tapped those to make them even wider. The hole is specced for 5.9mm and the max diameter on the cap screw is 5.68, so that's odd that you're having issues.
Try banging it out from the other end, and maybe taking a small file or drill bit to ream the hole a little. If you still have no luck, email me at rndkbd@gmail.com and I'll get you hooked up.
Post by: DetectiveNio on Fri, 06 December 2019, 16:52:18
Can we still buy extra bottoms? My only feedback is that the holes on the bottom are too small for the screws to go thru. One actually got stuck :(
Weird. As Belle said we also tapped those to make them even wider. The hole is specced for 5.9mm and the max diameter on the cap screw is 5.68, so that's odd that you're having issues.
Try banging it out from the other end, and maybe taking a small file or drill bit to ream the hole a little. If you still have no luck, email me at rndkbd@gmail.com and I'll get you hooked up.
I finally hammered that little **** out and file the holes. Much easier now. I don't quite like the sound of FR4 so i'll get a POM plate and try that out, anyone want in?
Post by: Oni74 on Fri, 06 December 2019, 17:19:41
Can we still buy extra bottoms? My only feedback is that the holes on the bottom are too small for the screws to go thru. One actually got stuck :(
Weird. As Belle said we also tapped those to make them even wider. The hole is specced for 5.9mm and the max diameter on the cap screw is 5.68, so that's odd that you're having issues.
Try banging it out from the other end, and maybe taking a small file or drill bit to ream the hole a little. If you still have no luck, email me at rndkbd@gmail.com and I'll get you hooked up.
I finally hammered that little **** out and file the holes. Much easier now. I don't quite like the sound of FR4 so i'll get a POM plate and try that out, anyone want in?
I'm unfamiliar with FR4 and POM plates, so it's impossible for me to say with certainty. Can you share your thoughts on the sound on FR4 vs. POM? I own a PC Think 6.5 with integrated plate so if you can compare with sound on PC boards it would give me a frame of reference; if not, no worries. Thanks!
Post by: keyboardbelle on Sat, 07 December 2019, 18:20:56
The drill bit tends to grip too fast and drill out the M3 section too and messes up the lower.
If you do decide to tap the 5.9mm section, do it by hand.
When I pack up the last batch for shipping, I'll add some M3 screws from McMaster-Carr which may fit better than the other M3 bolts. The McMaster bolts have a smooth finish around the bolt head and may be more uniformly sized.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 07 December 2019, 21:48:38
Can we still buy extra bottoms? My only feedback is that the holes on the bottom are too small for the screws to go thru. One actually got stuck :(
Weird. As Belle said we also tapped those to make them even wider. The hole is specced for 5.9mm and the max diameter on the cap screw is 5.68, so that's odd that you're having issues.
Try banging it out from the other end, and maybe taking a small file or drill bit to ream the hole a little. If you still have no luck, email me at rndkbd@gmail.com and I'll get you hooked up.
I finally hammered that little **** out and file the holes. Much easier now. I don't quite like the sound of FR4 so i'll get a POM plate and try that out, anyone want in?
I'm unfamiliar with FR4 and POM plates, so it's impossible for me to say with certainty. Can you share your thoughts on the sound on FR4 vs. POM? I own a PC Think 6.5 with integrated plate so if you can compare with sound on PC boards it would give me a frame of reference; if not, no worries. Thanks!
POM may give a deeper sound, but it's difficult to find in 1.5 mm thickness.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 09 December 2019, 14:28:38
The plate file is attached for those that want to get their own made. The only rule of use is that you tell me how the different materials sound/feel when you get it made if you're guinea-pigging a new one ;)
Post by: swerderv on Mon, 09 December 2019, 14:30:16
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 09 December 2019, 15:26:06
Hopefully everyone's stuff is finding its way over! The extra square nuts should show up this week, so we hope to have the other half of the orders out before the holiday break! I'm excited to see what your builds look like, and any feedback on the building process/feel/sound.
The plate file is attached for those that want to get their own made. The only rule of use is that you tell me how the different materials sound/feel when you get it made if you're guinea-pigging a new one ;)
Thank you for the plate file. Will probably make a metal plate (TBD). Can't wait to get this board in hand. I'll have a nice long break till NYE so hopefully can get everything built by then. :thumb:
Post by: h.parks on Mon, 09 December 2019, 16:33:28
-the vertical gasket wells are slightly longer than the horizontal gasket wells, so cut your gaskets accordingly. do not just blindly make them all the same length.
-this wasn't immediately obvious to me at first: with the top of the case facing down, insert the square nuts into the side slots and align them from above with a pin or small screw head.
-a small jostle or bump can misalign the nuts, so go slowly when fastening the bottom of the case to the top. check that all six screws have attached properly.
-the usb-c port holes are well-aligned, and the tolerances are impressively tight for a 3d-printed keyboard. the case top and bottom sit very flush together.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 09 December 2019, 18:15:36
assembly notes:
-the vertical gasket wells are slightly longer than the horizontal gasket wells, so cut your gaskets accordingly. do not just blindly make them all the same length.
-this wasn't immediately obvious to me at first: with the top of the case facing down, insert the square nuts into the side slots and align them from above with a pin or small screw head.
-a small jostle or bump can misalign the nuts, so go slowly when fastening the bottom of the case to the top. check that all six screws have attached properly.
-the usb-c port holes are well-aligned, and the tolerances are impressively tight for a 3d-printed keyboard. the case top and bottom sit very flush together.
Thanks! and yes, the vertical ones are a little longer by design, so check the size before cutting. There's lots of extra cord for everyone waiting to assemble theirs.
And you have no idea how many tolerating prints I did to get this right. I had a garbage bag full of revisions by the time I was ready for GB :p
Post by: Datastream on Tue, 10 December 2019, 06:29:14
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 10 December 2019, 09:41:29
I haven't received a shipping confirmation so I'll assume it'll be a surprise :D
Belle is sending them thru her Shopify store, so you will get a shipping notification.
Post by: Capsy on Fri, 13 December 2019, 22:22:43
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 14 December 2019, 02:03:14
Have all order gone out for this? No rush, just curious. I have not received tracking.
I miscalculated the amount of nuts I needed for the cases, and I'm waiting on another shipment. Half have gone out, the other half are waiting on those to come in. It may be slightly delayed with the holidays, but tracking puts it in the US in the next few days, and then off to Belle in a few more. Everything is printed and good to go, we're just waiting on those now.
Post by: Seoulcialite on Mon, 16 December 2019, 06:08:44
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 17 December 2019, 20:33:28
What's the typing angle btw?
5 degrees.
Extra parts to arrive Thursday, so the other half of the cases should be going out on the weekend!
Post by: Kevadu on Thu, 19 December 2019, 14:21:18
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 19 December 2019, 15:02:45
Since mine hasn't shipped yet and I'm actually going to be away for the holidays started pretty soon you guys can take your time with it...
Not sure what you're trying to imply with this. The latter half is being shipped this weekend.
Post by: DetectiveNio on Thu, 19 December 2019, 22:52:33
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Post by: Kevadu on Fri, 20 December 2019, 01:09:43
Since mine hasn't shipped yet and I'm actually going to be away for the holidays started pretty soon you guys can take your time with it...
Not sure what you're trying to imply with this. The latter half is being shipped this weekend.
I wasn't trying to imply anything? I mean I'm not going to be home to receive the package for a while so I would actually prefer if you didn't ship it right away.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 21 December 2019, 02:14:15
Since mine hasn't shipped yet and I'm actually going to be away for the holidays started pretty soon you guys can take your time with it...
Not sure what you're trying to imply with this. The latter half is being shipped this weekend.
I wasn't trying to imply anything? I mean I'm not going to be home to receive the package for a while so I would actually prefer if you didn't ship it right away.
Gotcha, apologies for being grouchy. I told Belle to hold your order so it won't be sitting unattended if you're not around. Email me at rndkbd@gmail.com when you'll be returning and I can have her send it a few days prior :)
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 21 December 2019, 02:15:14
Kuro/Shiro goes well with carbon fiber top. Featuring a crooked ass spacebar
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Beauty! Split space for Kuro/Shiro only ;)
Post by: keyboardbelle on Mon, 23 December 2019, 10:24:05
If anyone is away from Christmas, they can fill out the invoice when they return, I thought it would work best if we double check to make sure everyone knows they have a package arriving since it is the holidays.
I also added a description of the included kit items with each invoice to double check all orders.
I'll send out reminder e-mails after Christmas if I have not heard back from someone.
Overall I think the prints came out pretty well, if anyone wants to post feedback on print quality or opinions, I'm curious to see what people expect from a 3D print vs. how the prints came out.
Everyone should have the proper extras and accessories, but if something does seem to be missing, e-mail me at keyboardbelle at icloud.com and I have some leftovers on hand I can send out as replacements.
I usually print my own designs a little differently - but the PLA75 was an interesting project to see a gasket mount build created.
Thanks!
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 23 December 2019, 10:48:43
The remaining PLA75 kits should have received an invoice for $0 to get a shipping label made. I guess you can say I'm checking the list I made twice.Haven't received an invoice. Dropped a PM.
If anyone is away from Christmas, they can fill out the invoice when they return, I thought it would work best if we double check to make sure everyone knows they have a package arriving since it is the holidays.
I also added a description of the included kit items with each invoice to double check all orders.
I'll send out reminder e-mails after Christmas if I have not heard back from someone.
Overall I think the prints came out pretty well, if anyone wants to post feedback on print quality or opinions, I'm curious to see what people expect from a 3D print vs. how the prints came out.
Everyone should have the proper extras and accessories, but if something does seem to be missing, e-mail me at keyboardbelle at icloud.com and I have some leftovers on hand I can send out as replacements.
I usually print my own designs a little differently - but the PLA75 was an interesting project to see a gasket mount build created.
Thanks!
Post by: keyboardbelle on Mon, 23 December 2019, 16:06:51
I just dropped off a batch of packages at the post office.
I'm reprinting three tops just to get a slightly better quality - so the rest should ship the day after Christmas - I'll try to keep everyone updated via email. We have guests for the holidays, so I'll try to recheck the thread the 26th.
Thanks!
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 23 December 2019, 16:08:06
Invoice sent, sorry about that.Thank you for the prompt communication.
I just dropped off a batch of packages at the post office.
I'm reprinting three tops just to get a slightly better quality - so the rest should ship the day after Christmas - I'll try to keep everyone updated via email. We have guests for the holidays, so I'll try to recheck the thread the 26th.
Thanks!
Post by: keyboardbelle on Thu, 26 December 2019, 16:36:23
If anyone is missing something or needs something extra, e-mail me at keyboardbelle@icloud.com and I can send a small padded envelope with spare widgets.
Post by: TieuNgu on Sat, 28 December 2019, 19:55:03
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 28 December 2019, 21:59:14
How are we supposed to mount the board? The screws don't seem to go through the holes from the bottom...
I'm not sure what you mean? Are the holes too tight and the caps for the screw heads don't pass though? I'd recommend getting a drill bit and just loosening them up a bit, but I'm pretty sure belle checked them all before they went out. Would you mind posting a picture and we can get you sorted? Don't panic, worst case scenario you end up getting a new bottom case on me.
Post by: TieuNgu on Sat, 28 December 2019, 22:50:01
This is what I meant... Yea the holes were too tight I don't think the drill bit would help. Kinda sad since this is literally the last step then I could've enjoyed the board :(
Also, are we supposed to remove the plastic films covering the top and bottom pieces? I tried but it seems impossible to remove them.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 29 December 2019, 00:38:08
https://imgur.com/a/TTBPRMO
This is what I meant... Yea the holes were too tight I don't think the drill bit would help. Kinda sad since this is literally the last step then I could've enjoyed the board :(
Also, are we supposed to remove the plastic films covering the top and bottom pieces? I tried but it seems impossible to remove them.
Plastic film? I'm not aware that there was any. I'll check with Belle about a solution/replacement. Hold tight.
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 29 December 2019, 00:54:44
About plastic film, I meant the glossy layer that looks like tape on top of the top / bottom pieces.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 29 December 2019, 13:02:46
Yea please keep me posted.
About plastic film, I meant the glossy layer that looks like tape on top of the top / bottom pieces.
That's the first layer! The filament smushes against the smooth bed and makes that glass like surface, it's not plastic :p
Post by: thecezar on Mon, 30 December 2019, 20:42:51
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 30 December 2019, 22:30:26
The screws I got are way too short. The ones in front don't reach the nut and the backs aren't even half way to the nut.
They're long enough. You might have some crud in the holes, so take a small screwdriver and clear it out. You've also gotta squish the case together when assembling, as the screws don't have much leeway, but they will catch and thread.
Post by: thecezar on Mon, 30 December 2019, 22:45:47
The screws I got are way too short. The ones in front don't reach the nut and the backs aren't even half way to the nut.
They're long enough. You might have some crud in the holes, so take a small screwdriver and clear it out. You've also gotta squish the case together when assembling, as the screws don't have much leeway, but they will catch and thread.
Is the bottom part you suppose to put the allen wrench in suppose to go up more? Mine only goes in a bit.
Post by: TieuNgu on Mon, 30 December 2019, 23:07:20
The screws I got are way too short. The ones in front don't reach the nut and the backs aren't even half way to the nut.
They're long enough. You might have some crud in the holes, so take a small screwdriver and clear it out. You've also gotta squish the case together when assembling, as the screws don't have much leeway, but they will catch and thread.
For my case, even though I tried to expand the hole a little bit the screws only went it a little further. I think something went wrong with the dimensions while printing the bottom because I don't think they are supposed to be this tight...
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 31 December 2019, 14:25:07
The screws I got are way too short. The ones in front don't reach the nut and the backs aren't even half way to the nut.
They're long enough. You might have some crud in the holes, so take a small screwdriver and clear it out. You've also gotta squish the case together when assembling, as the screws don't have much leeway, but they will catch and thread.
For my case, even though I tried to expand the hole a little bit the screws only went it a little further. I think something went wrong with the dimensions while printing the bottom because I don't think they are supposed to be this tight...
I'll have keyboardbelle email you about getting a new one to you since you're in the US. In the meantime I would try tapping them in with a punch and hammer - the plastic is really strong, so might as well give it a go. Sorry for the issues, yours must have slipped by.
(https://i.imgur.com/0N6OVdV_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Post by: TieuNgu on Tue, 31 December 2019, 19:58:20
The screws I got are way too short. The ones in front don't reach the nut and the backs aren't even half way to the nut.
They're long enough. You might have some crud in the holes, so take a small screwdriver and clear it out. You've also gotta squish the case together when assembling, as the screws don't have much leeway, but they will catch and thread.
For my case, even though I tried to expand the hole a little bit the screws only went it a little further. I think something went wrong with the dimensions while printing the bottom because I don't think they are supposed to be this tight...
I'll have keyboardbelle email you about getting a new one to you since you're in the US. In the meantime I would try tapping them in with a punch and hammer - the plastic is really strong, so might as well give it a go. Sorry for the issues, yours must have slipped by.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0N6OVdV_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
After using a screwdriver to scrape the holes off a little bit, and screw the screws in with excessive force, all of them have gone in now. I don't think it should be this hard, so for future run maybe you should consider leaving some extra room for the screw holes. All good for me now. I'll reply to Belle's email.
Post by: TieuNgu on Tue, 31 December 2019, 20:08:09
(https://i.imgur.com/At6ZbGu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CsxRbYm.jpg)
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 01 January 2020, 04:31:20
My board btw. Built w/ lubed gateron giants. Sounds really nice, has a nice thock and lower pitch than my other acrylic build.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/At6ZbGu.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CsxRbYm.jpg)
Looks excellent. Apologies again for the troubles and I'm glad you got it worked out. I leave a good 0.5-0.8 mm of clearance for cap screws, but sometimes a printer will overextrude the filament and make holes smaller than they should be, hence the generous tolerance. For future cases I may consider getting a screw that's very close to a nominal drill size, so that people can ream the last couple thousand out of the hole if needed as a backup in case some slip through QC ;)
Post by: Seoulcialite on Wed, 01 January 2020, 10:31:58
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358532590107623424/661951138702164008/20200102_001716.jpg)
Post by: TieuNgu on Wed, 01 January 2020, 11:11:46
My board btw. Built w/ lubed gateron giants. Sounds really nice, has a nice thock and lower pitch than my other acrylic build.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/At6ZbGu.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CsxRbYm.jpg)
Looks excellent. Apologies again for the troubles and I'm glad you got it worked out. I leave a good 0.5-0.8 mm of clearance for cap screws, but sometimes a printer will overextrude the filament and make holes smaller than they should be, hence the generous tolerance. For future cases I may consider getting a screw that's very close to a nominal drill size, so that people can ream the last couple thousand out of the hole if needed as a backup in case some slip through QC ;)
I sent you a message about possibly buying an extra translucent top. Let me know if that's possible.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 01 January 2020, 15:16:44
A few diodes on the PCB seemed to have fallen off during shipping. I was able to find some in the air cap bag but not all. Good thing I had some extra SMD diodes left over from a previous build and got the PCB working 100%. Anyways, I always wanted to make a sticker bomb build and I thought PLA75 would be perfect for it when I first saw it. So here it is:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358532590107623424/661951138702164008/20200102_001716.jpg)
Glad you were able to get it fixed up! Apologies for that. That case looks amazing - I'm stealing this for my Instagram if you don't mind.
Post by: DetectiveNio on Wed, 01 January 2020, 18:40:50
Post by: keyboardbelle on Wed, 01 January 2020, 19:56:08
A few diodes on the PCB seemed to have fallen off during shipping. I was able to find some in the air cap bag but not all. Good thing I had some extra SMD diodes left over from a previous build and got the PCB working 100%. Anyways, I always wanted to make a sticker bomb build and I thought PLA75 would be perfect for it when I first saw it. So here it is:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358532590107623424/661951138702164008/20200102_001716.jpg)
First, this looks awesome. Sticker bombing + 3D prints go together well. Also, I have no idea what they do with packages during shipping to make components fall off, glad to see you got it fixed. I tried to put the PCB inside the case itself and inside bubble wrap to keep it secure. I wonder if customs messed with it somehow?
Post by: Seoulcialite on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:08:32
Glad you were able to get it fixed up! Apologies for that. That case looks amazing - I'm stealing this for my Instagram if you don't mind.
Don't mind at all!
Post by: Seoulcialite on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:21:35
First, this looks awesome. Sticker bombing + 3D prints go together well. Also, I have no idea what they do with packages during shipping to make components fall off, glad to see you got it fixed. I tried to put the PCB inside the case itself and inside bubble wrap to keep it secure. I wonder if customs messed with it somehow?
The box tape was still intact so it doesn't look like customs messed with it. However, the package did seem to sit somewhere for 3 weeks after it entered the country. The issue isn't unheard of as PCBs from KBDfans don't always have the best soldering job. Also, I wasn't too worried as I was confident that I'd be able to fix it. Anyways, I've built it with tactile T1 switches and MK Ultra foam. The typing sound is wonderful!
Post by: keyboardbelle on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:37:49
I've got the Cadette cases on my site now and they sound really nice too.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 06 January 2020, 19:14:57
We've got a few extras, so I'll put a form up in the next few days for that.
Post by: iJeeSung on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:54:52
Post by: EMC Labs on Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:09:23
Curious. Do you have RGB LEDs placed on the sides of your PCB? I do believe my PLA75 lighting is much dimmer than yours.
Side of PCB? Haven't seen that happen before.
Post by: Oni74 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:18:49
PLA75 uses kbd75 PCB. There are 16 LEDs on the bottom.Curious. Do you have RGB LEDs placed on the sides of your PCB? I do believe my PLA75 lighting is much dimmer than yours.
Side of PCB? Haven't seen that happen before.
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 07 January 2020, 10:50:06
PLA75 uses kbd75 PCB. There are 16 LEDs on the bottom.Curious. Do you have RGB LEDs placed on the sides of your PCB? I do believe my PLA75 lighting is much dimmer than yours.
Side of PCB? Haven't seen that happen before.
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No extra lights. I did tinker with the ISO setting on my DSLR before I took some pictures, but you should still get a healthy glow when the lights are off.
Ensure the power of the lights are turned all the way up, please reference the kbd75 documentation on kbdfans.com to find the key combo.
Post by: dmatx1 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 11:08:48
Transparent bottom is okay, carbon top looks great (mine is prettier than on your photos), teal top looks nice and it is much better than I've expected after the printing problems (it has two small flaws only, but it was my choice to keep this color). Two front screw holes are okay, one front and three back screw holes will need some work when I'll assemble the keyboard (which will happen about a month later).
Thanks for the GB!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 07 January 2020, 12:55:05
I've received my PLA75 about a week ago.
Transparent bottom is okay, carbon top looks great (mine is prettier than on your photos), teal top looks nice and it is much better than I've expected after the printing problems (it has two small flaws only, but it was my choice to keep this color). Two front screw holes are okay, one front and three back screw holes will need some work when I'll assemble the keyboard (which will happen about a month later).
Thanks for the GB!
Thanks for the feedback! Are the holes a little tight? I'd try a round file, or a very gentle Dremel or drill bit.
This has been a great learning experience, as the printer you prototype on is not the same as production printers, and 3D printers like to make holes smaller than they should be (even if you oversized the **** out of it :p)
Post by: dmatx1 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 13:21:35
Are the holes a little tight? I'd try a round file, or a very gentle Dremel or drill bit.Yes, they are, screw heads stuck at half way down. I think I'll use drill bit and a needle file. Dremel and be very gentle? No way :)
I also have to file one of the washer pockets, just only 0.1-0.2 mm for proper alignment, 11 of 12 are perfect of them and the remaining one is also almost.
Post by: sareth324 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 20:02:17
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 07 January 2020, 21:24:51
1st time with gaskets. It it just simply just cutting the rubber to the size of the cutouts and screwing the case together?
You got it. You've gotta apply a decent force (squeezing the top and bottom together) to get everything to squish together when screwing.
Post by: lurkcobain on Thu, 09 January 2020, 09:39:35
(https://i.imgur.com/r0kyNxA.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/RgstK36.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A6o0geW.jpg)
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 09 January 2020, 11:10:24
Been driving this thing for almost a week now and I have to say, it's my favorite board. Spring oiled but otherwise stock Gateron yellows, a filmed/lubed/oiled Cream for spacebar, and C3 stabs lubed with 129. I don't own a good mic/camera, but I do have access to some if anyone is interested to hear how it sounds. For now, here are some pictures :D :Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r0kyNxA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RgstK36.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/A6o0geW.jpg)
I'd love a sound test if you're able to make one! The board looks great btw.
Post by: lurkcobain on Sat, 11 January 2020, 18:53:06
Been driving this thing for almost a week now and I have to say, it's my favorite board. Spring oiled but otherwise stock Gateron yellows, a filmed/lubed/oiled Cream for spacebar, and C3 stabs lubed with 129. I don't own a good mic/camera, but I do have access to some if anyone is interested to hear how it sounds. For now, here are some pictures :D :Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r0kyNxA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RgstK36.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/A6o0geW.jpg)
I'd love a sound test if you're able to make one! The board looks great btw.
https://soundcloud.com/gangstuhrap/pla75-sound-test/s-g0R8k (https://soundcloud.com/gangstuhrap/pla75-sound-test/s-g0R8k)
Finished the sound test, it's a little long but it has a typing test and modifier sound test.
Also apologies if the quality isn't good.
Post by: Oni74 on Sat, 11 January 2020, 21:38:16
I'm having the same problems with my bottom casing. None of the 6 screws will make it past the initial threshold. I've tried filing it to no avail. It looks like the hole gets narrower as it gets closer to the final threshold.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200112/857a7b16b0c2cb93b78b62bcf637d231.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200112/53bd65bd1172346eebf5384be017c60b.jpg)My board btw. Built w/ lubed gateron giants. Sounds really nice, has a nice thock and lower pitch than my other acrylic build.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/At6ZbGu.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CsxRbYm.jpg)
Looks excellent. Apologies again for the troubles and I'm glad you got it worked out. I leave a good 0.5-0.8 mm of clearance for cap screws, but sometimes a printer will overextrude the filament and make holes smaller than they should be, hence the generous tolerance. For future cases I may consider getting a screw that's very close to a nominal drill size, so that people can ream the last couple thousand out of the hole if needed as a backup in case some slip through QC ;)
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Post by: keyboardbelle on Mon, 13 January 2020, 08:45:10
I don't think I have any more of the silver screws left though.
Post by: TieuNgu on Mon, 13 January 2020, 22:28:53
clear top that I got from Belle :)
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 13 January 2020, 23:50:41
Show Image(https://i.redd.it/2khvh8x2e1a41.jpg)
clear top that I got from Belle :)
Lovely! Stealing this for the gram. The brick looks sick!
Post by: Oni74 on Sun, 19 January 2020, 23:44:17
What made this build very different from my previous builds is that I made use of MKUltra's foam for KBD75 PCB to dampen the noise. Although T1s are not as clacky as HPs, I really wanted to try building a board with properly cut foam, and PLA75 was an ideal choice since it uses a PCB with pre-existing foam from MKUltra. I did have to trim down the edges of the foam to fit PLA75 case but that was a straight-cut with minimal time requirement. I will record and post a typing video on YT at some point.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 20 January 2020, 00:55:03
I finally got my PLA75 built with T1s, MKUltra foam, and C3 stabs (Thanks, Keyboardbelle, for sending me the replacement bottom!)
What made this build very different from my previous builds is that I made use of MKUltra's foam for KBD75 PCB to dampen the noise. Although T1s are not as clacky as HPs, I really wanted to try building a board with properly cut foam, and PLA75 was an ideal choice since it uses a PCB with pre-existing foam from MKUltra. I did have to trim down the edges of the foam to fit PLA75 case but that was a straight-cut with minimal time requirement. I will record and post a typing video on YT at some point.
Ooooo dat cf tho
I use T1s on my prototype, so I'd love to hear the difference the foam makes. How are those c3 stabs?
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 21 January 2020, 14:23:34
Due to my namesake I figured I needed a fully red board ;)
I think we can call this one wrapped up, however, in the wake of the GSKT fiasco, I'm considering doing a small run of extras for those that want a nice gasket mount board. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll run it by Belle.
Thanks all, and enjoy the isolation mount clacks :)
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 21 January 2020, 14:46:03
Yes please! Feel like such a fool for not being ready when the time came.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i9kPA9Y.jpg)
Due to my namesake I figured I needed a fully red board ;)
I think we can call this one wrapped up, however, in the wake of the GSKT fiasco, I'm considering doing a small run of extras for those that want a nice gasket mount board. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll run it by Belle.
Thanks all, and enjoy the isolation mount clacks :)
These all turned out so fantastic, great job!
Post by: polyboy on Tue, 21 January 2020, 14:58:14
Post by: TieuNgu on Tue, 21 January 2020, 19:50:53
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i9kPA9Y.jpg)
Due to my namesake I figured I needed a fully red board ;)
I think we can call this one wrapped up, however, in the wake of the GSKT fiasco, I'm considering doing a small run of extras for those that want a nice gasket mount board. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll run it by Belle.
Thanks all, and enjoy the isolation mount clacks :)
Why not, I really want a second one for a different build :D
Post by: Oni74 on Wed, 22 January 2020, 20:47:18
I finally got my PLA75 built with T1s, MKUltra foam, and C3 stabs (Thanks, Keyboardbelle, for sending me the replacement bottom!)
What made this build very different from my previous builds is that I made use of MKUltra's foam for KBD75 PCB to dampen the noise. Although T1s are not as clacky as HPs, I really wanted to try building a board with properly cut foam, and PLA75 was an ideal choice since it uses a PCB with pre-existing foam from MKUltra. I did have to trim down the edges of the foam to fit PLA75 case but that was a straight-cut with minimal time requirement. I will record and post a typing video on YT at some point.
Ooooo dat cf tho
I use T1s on my prototype, so I'd love to hear the difference the foam makes. How are those c3 stabs?
I uploaded a quick typing test video. My fingers were frozen so my typing is error-filled, but you'll get an idea. Also, I think I placed the microphone too close to the board this time as you'll hear some background thumping. The thumping is not audible when using the board.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 23 January 2020, 00:18:24
I finally got my PLA75 built with T1s, MKUltra foam, and C3 stabs (Thanks, Keyboardbelle, for sending me the replacement bottom!)
What made this build very different from my previous builds is that I made use of MKUltra's foam for KBD75 PCB to dampen the noise. Although T1s are not as clacky as HPs, I really wanted to try building a board with properly cut foam, and PLA75 was an ideal choice since it uses a PCB with pre-existing foam from MKUltra. I did have to trim down the edges of the foam to fit PLA75 case but that was a straight-cut with minimal time requirement. I will record and post a typing video on YT at some point.
Ooooo dat cf tho
I use T1s on my prototype, so I'd love to hear the difference the foam makes. How are those c3 stabs?
I uploaded a quick typing test video. My fingers were frozen so my typing is error-filled, but you'll get an idea. Also, I think I placed the microphone too close to the board this time as you'll hear some background thumping. The thumping is not audible when using the board.
The SA spacebar thud made my day better :p
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 01 February 2020, 23:48:32
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 02 February 2020, 12:34:12
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 02 February 2020, 15:18:30
Any extras?
DM me, I have a few.
Full sculpt R0-R5 PLA75 build. Sounds and feels awesome. Painless build. Thanks for running this.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200202/e5e3df8d26cf8374256a2e4a9a83bedc.jpg)
Enjoy :) Thanks for supporting this from the start.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 10 February 2020, 11:57:32
Also I'm finding it very difficult to keep the nut aligned while also preventing it from falling out. I'm going to just put a piece of clear tape over the slot.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 10 February 2020, 12:52:20
Finally got around to building mine, and sadly I have the same issue with the screw holes as well as a diode that popped off in transit. Fixed the diode easily, but what's the recommended method for widening the screw holes to spec? Can I drill out the hole without it melting or ruining a bit?
Also I'm finding it very difficult to keep the nut aligned while also preventing it from falling out. I'm going to just put a piece of clear tape over the slot.
Dremel or small circular file. Weird that people are experiencing this, I had 5 extras for myself/local friends, and none of them had the screw issue.
For the nuts, I suggest slotting them, screwing into them a bit so they are aligned, and pouring a dab of white/hot glue in there to keep em in place. Do one side, leave it for half hour, flip it and do the other.
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 11 February 2020, 22:31:02
I have a some of viki LED Keyborads
It looks like very good more than viki :)
Post by: varooshgog on Wed, 12 February 2020, 20:00:21
Any extras?
DM me, I have a few.
Sent a message! Hoping for one :)
Post by: Verdunlion on Thu, 13 February 2020, 23:33:15
Post by: Applet on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:01:02
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:11:23
Any plans for a PLA60? ;D
ADK64v2 is a split (but goes together VE.A style) gasket mount in the same fashion as the PLA75. Will be making an IC in the coming days.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 10 April 2020, 12:25:06
(https://i.imgur.com/qu8RP0G.jpg)
Also, any interest in a R2 between COVID spikes?
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 10 April 2020, 12:27:11