The GNU EDA packages are quite capable...
Some use EagleCAD...
Post a sketch of what you're after...
How does a small solderless breadboard fail to meet your needs?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9567
For that matter, the teensy itself is basically a breakout board...
I could also use it to mount a teensy 2.0 with soarer's converter inside my model f.
Although i don't not yet know the format of a teensy(have one coming in the mail) wouldn't it be cheaper to make this with perfboard or stripboard. The only down side would be it wouldn't look as nice but it wouldn't cost as much and wouldn't take long to do.
My one question is if the mount holes in the corner will accept a 6-32 screw since I already have standoffs and hardware in that size.
Although i don't not yet know the format of a teensy(have one coming in the mail) wouldn't it be cheaper to make this with perfboard or stripboard. The only down side would be it wouldn't look as nice but it wouldn't cost as much and wouldn't take long to do.
I would definitely be in for a few if your looking for someone to help share the costs.
I would definitely be in for a few if your looking for someone to help share the costs.
Ditto.
I have a Teensy that I'm looking for a good mounting solution, the breadboard on offer is way to large for my taste.
So why not this (http://www.adafruit.com/products/296)?
So why not this (http://www.adafruit.com/products/296)?
ok time to spend more money :(
So why not this (http://www.adafruit.com/products/296)?
Would it be cheaper to design a version with multiples of these on one board that break apart?
Would it be cheaper to design a version with multiples of these on one board that break apart?
I want to preface this with the fact that I am all for open source hardware development and this project.
now to the lame finance stuff.
(($ of Adafruit Atmega32u4 Breakout Board = $19.90) - ($ of teensy = 16)) = $3.90 not counting shipping
If (cost of custom made breakout board > $3.90) then {I think I would buy the premade board from Adafruit}
most custom pcb services charge $10.00 per pcb which is why I was asking if there is a way that maybe we could fit more breakout boards per end product pcb.
No it doesn't program exactly the same as a teensy. Teensy has it's own bootloader and flasher. Other boards would behave the same as bpiphany's hid_liberator project. You use Flip from Atmel which is only slightly more complicated than Teensy Loader.
OshPark charges per sq inch and doesn't care about board quantity as long is it's a multiple of 3.
Boards have been assigned to a panel as of today.
$10.15+$5 for USPS Priority Mail for a total of 15.15 for 3 boards. Which was the minimum order
If it's not too crass and you don't mind sharing, how much did it cost to get your PCB made? I'm assuming you're doing your own custom keyboard PCB, something I'd love to try in the future, so I'm trying to figure out how much I need to set aside.
I'm assuming you're doing your own custom keyboard PCB,
If it's not too crass and you don't mind sharing, how much did it cost to get your PCB made? I'm assuming you're doing your own custom keyboard PCB, something I'd love to try in the future, so I'm trying to figure out how much I need to set aside.
These small ones are fairly cheap, plus setup costs and what not get split between all the orders on the panel. That's how companies like OSH Park can do these small prototype boards for cheap.
For my 40% design, I paid around $150 or so to get 5 prototypes made. A 60% would run about $200-250, dependind on the options you choose, for the same 5 prototypes. You can do just one or two, but they start to price a bit better if you do 5.
Looking something like this, I suppose:That keyboard is AMAZING jd. Also the breakout board is looking very nice.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zWynYMG.png)
Yes, I secretly ordered 3 of them as well. But I will most likely be using all 3 of mine. Once I complete my move to my new house, I will revisit my 40% build and rewire it using this breakout board to connect the Teensy. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v65AoMf.jpg)
Looking something like this, I suppose:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zWynYMG.png)
Yes, I secretly ordered 3 of them as well. But I will most likely be using all 3 of mine. Once I complete my move to my new house, I will revisit my 40% build and rewire it using this breakout board to connect the Teensy. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v65AoMf.jpg)
Looking something like this, I suppose:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zWynYMG.png)
Yes, I secretly ordered 3 of them as well. But I will most likely be using all 3 of mine. Once I complete my move to my new house, I will revisit my 40% build and rewire it using this breakout board to connect the Teensy. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v65AoMf.jpg)
What is the key layout of a 40%?
I haven't really finalized the layout yet. I don't want to derail this thread, but I will be discussing my little design further in my "Keyboard Prototyping" thread (link in my signature). :)
Looking something like this, I suppose:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zWynYMG.png)
Yes, I secretly ordered 3 of them as well. But I will most likely be using all 3 of mine. Once I complete my move to my new house, I will revisit my 40% build and rewire it using this breakout board to connect the Teensy. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v65AoMf.jpg)
What is the key layout of a 40%?
I haven't really finalized the layout yet. I don't want to derail this thread, but I will be discussing my little design further in my "Keyboard Prototyping" thread (link in my signature). :)
Yes, I secretly ordered 3 of them as well.jdcarpe: have you had a chance to line up a teensy with the breakout board, or try and put headers through it? Melvang showed that the mounting holes are OK in his classified thread but I'm itchin' to hear that the teensy part is OK also!
Yes, I secretly ordered 3 of them as well.jdcarpe: have you had a chance to line up a teensy with the breakout board, or try and put headers through it? Melvang showed that the mounting holes are OK in his classified thread but I'm itchin' to hear that the teensy part is OK also!
It lines up perfectly. Now I just need to solder it in there and take a pic. :)
It lines up perfectly. Now I just need to solder it in there and take a pic. :)
Did you ever take that pic? I'm curious to see
Got six of those break-out boards in the mail yesterday. Absolutely spiffy!
Now I've got to order some more Teensys... Should have done that at the same time, but I didn't expect OSH Park to turn my order around so quickly.
Got six of those break-out boards in the mail yesterday. Absolutely spiffy!
Now I've got to order some more Teensys... Should have done that at the same time, but I didn't expect OSH Park to turn my order around so quickly.
If you haven't placed your order yet for the Teensys, hold off for a day or so. I've contacted them about possible price breaks for a quick GB. I don't think Massdrop is going to pick this up.
Got six of those break-out boards in the mail yesterday. Absolutely spiffy!
Now I've got to order some more Teensys... Should have done that at the same time, but I didn't expect OSH Park to turn my order around so quickly.
If you haven't placed your order yet for the Teensys, hold off for a day or so. I've contacted them about possible price breaks for a quick GB. I don't think Massdrop is going to pick this up.
Got six of those break-out boards in the mail yesterday. Absolutely spiffy!
Now I've got to order some more Teensys... Should have done that at the same time, but I didn't expect OSH Park to turn my order around so quickly.
If you haven't placed your order yet for the Teensys, hold off for a day or so. I've contacted them about possible price breaks for a quick GB. I don't think Massdrop is going to pick this up.
I just saw this thread today. I'm interested to see what people might have done with these boards. Anyone have any updates or pics related to their build progress? Also if anyone still needs someone to split a purchase with I might be interested.
I just saw this thread today. I'm interested to see what people might have done with these boards. Anyone have any updates or pics related to their build progress? Also if anyone still needs someone to split a purchase with I might be interested.
I had 2 at KeyCon mounted on a piece of scrap aluminum.
Not soldered in yet, and I don't have the extra pins placed, but you can get an idea of what it looks like. You could always remove the spacers from the header pins to lower the profile a bit.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GBSNm8C.jpg)
Not soldered in yet, and I don't have the extra pins placed, but you can get an idea of what it looks like. You could always remove the spacers from the header pins to lower the profile a bit.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GBSNm8C.jpg)
If you haven't placed your order yet for the Teensys, hold off for a day or so. I've contacted them about possible price breaks for a quick GB. I don't think Massdrop is going to pick this up.
Any update on this potential Teensy group rate?If you haven't placed your order yet for the Teensys, hold off for a day or so. I've contacted them about possible price breaks for a quick GB. I don't think Massdrop is going to pick this up.
So I heard back from Paul at PJRC, and the good news is that we really can save a little bit on a large order.
For the Teensy 2.0 without pins, PJRC charges $16. Shipping using the cheapest option was (for me at least) $3.80. Total of $19.80.
If I take orders for at least 25 units, I can get one unit to you for $17.50 shipped, including PP fees. Additional units $15 each, plus a small shipping difference, with the maximum additional shipping being $3.30.
If the total ordered is 100 or more, the price decreases to a base of $16 shipped, with additional units at $13.50.
Add ~$3 per unit if we want them with header pins.
So what does everyone think? Is it worth doing a GB? Should I put up a GB thread with a short time frame?
Also, I could get the header pins cheap, if they aren't soldered to the Teensy. Anyone opposed to soldering them to the Teensy yourself?
This would increase the base price by probably less than $0.50, instead of $3.
Here are the updated gerbers (ready to be uploaded to OSHPark): (Attachment Link)
and here is the matching geda/pcb file: (Attachment Link)
and here is a rendering of the board: (Attachment Link)
and finally pricing: The board is just a hair over 2"x1" according to OSHPark. at $5/sq.in.
it comes to $10.15 for 3 of them, or roughly $3.38 per board, shipped (in the US).
We would have to order 80 of them to get into bulk pricing at OSHPark, which would get us to ~$2 per board,
and then someone would have to reship them all. I think the hot setup is for anyone interested to put in their
order individually to OSHPark.
I've upped the mounting drill to 0.170 inches, which should be nice for your 6/32 mounting hardware.
The other drills are now at 0.044 to provide a bit more clearance for pins.
Plus, I've incorporated the the GH60 "GH" in the silkscreen for fun.
Some brave soul should call dibs, and order the first set to confirm it's correct before everyone dives in...
Can i add these to the CAD resource hub?Great idea. I think they are sufficiently proved-out now that Melvang & jdcarpe
Your boards are being made as you read this!
We've sent the panel containing your boards to the fabricator. We expect to get them back around September 9th.
In case you're interested, there are 75 other orders on the panel along with yours, adding up to a total of 462 boards. Neat eh?
Got my email from OSH Park:QuoteYour boards are being made as you read this!
We've sent the panel containing your boards to the fabricator. We expect to get them back around September 9th.
In case you're interested, there are 75 other orders on the panel along with yours, adding up to a total of 462 boards. Neat eh?
never had PCBs made before. this is fun. thanks for the design work!
Here are the updated gerbers (ready to be uploaded to OSHPark): (Attachment Link)
and here is the matching geda/pcb file: (Attachment Link)
and here is a rendering of the board: (Attachment Link)
and finally pricing: The board is just a hair over 2"x1" according to OSHPark. at $5/sq.in.
it comes to $10.15 for 3 of them, or roughly $3.38 per board, shipped (in the US).
We would have to order 80 of them to get into bulk pricing at OSHPark, which would get us to ~$2 per board,
and then someone would have to reship them all. I think the hot setup is for anyone interested to put in their
order individually to OSHPark.
I've upped the mounting drill to 0.170 inches, which should be nice for your 6/32 mounting hardware.
The other drills are now at 0.044 to provide a bit more clearance for pins.
Plus, I've incorporated the the GH60 "GH" in the silkscreen for fun.
Some brave soul should call dibs, and order the first set to confirm it's correct before everyone dives in...
Sorry to bump the thread, but do you still have these?Here are the updated gerbers (ready to be uploaded to OSHPark): (Attachment Link)
and here is the matching geda/pcb file: (Attachment Link)
and here is a rendering of the board: (Attachment Link)
and finally pricing: The board is just a hair over 2"x1" according to OSHPark. at $5/sq.in.
it comes to $10.15 for 3 of them, or roughly $3.38 per board, shipped (in the US).
We would have to order 80 of them to get into bulk pricing at OSHPark, which would get us to ~$2 per board,
and then someone would have to reship them all. I think the hot setup is for anyone interested to put in their
order individually to OSHPark.
I've upped the mounting drill to 0.170 inches, which should be nice for your 6/32 mounting hardware.
The other drills are now at 0.044 to provide a bit more clearance for pins.
Plus, I've incorporated the the GH60 "GH" in the silkscreen for fun.
Some brave soul should call dibs, and order the first set to confirm it's correct before everyone dives in...
Sorry to bump the thread, but do you still have these?Here are the updated gerbers (ready to be uploaded to OSHPark): (Attachment Link)
and here is the matching geda/pcb file: (Attachment Link)
and here is a rendering of the board: (Attachment Link)
and finally pricing: The board is just a hair over 2"x1" according to OSHPark. at $5/sq.in.
it comes to $10.15 for 3 of them, or roughly $3.38 per board, shipped (in the US).
We would have to order 80 of them to get into bulk pricing at OSHPark, which would get us to ~$2 per board,
and then someone would have to reship them all. I think the hot setup is for anyone interested to put in their
order individually to OSHPark.
I've upped the mounting drill to 0.170 inches, which should be nice for your 6/32 mounting hardware.
The other drills are now at 0.044 to provide a bit more clearance for pins.
Plus, I've incorporated the the GH60 "GH" in the silkscreen for fun.
Some brave soul should call dibs, and order the first set to confirm it's correct before everyone dives in...
Are you looking for the finished piece or files?
Your boards are being made as you read this!
We've sent the panel containing your boards to the fabricator. We expect to get them back around March 3rd.
In case you're interested, there are 75 other orders on the panel along with yours, adding up to a total of 327 boards. Neat eh?
got the Rev. B version in the mail today from OSH Park. Took some comparison pics with the rev. A and to show how a teensy 2.0 and a pro micro fit on them:Show Image(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/jbedwell81/20140228_210204_zps2f230954.jpg)Show Image(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/jbedwell81/20140228_210110_zps752388bf.jpg)Show Image(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/jbedwell81/20140228_210033_zpsf6b52e16.jpg)Show Image(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/jbedwell81/20140228_210222_zps3dc1902a.jpg)