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Title: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: antipode-studio on Wed, 06 March 2024, 05:32:45
(https://i.imgur.com/calHv1t.jpeg)

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INTEREST CHECK FORM (https://forms.gle/8LpD7AyYyu9qfKzf9)




Introduction on the Pneuma from Stef:
The Pneuma is my take on the 60% form factor that I have worked on for the past couple of years. The name "Pneuma" or "πνεῦμα" is a noun used by the ancient Greeks to describe the "Spirit"  or "Soul". It is also used to describe the creative force within humans, a nod to the inspiration I've gotten while designing the board. The board was developed around the design philosophy that a product shall be interesting from three distances: far away, regular usage distance, and up-close.

From afar, the large shapes, soft lines and material finishes invite the user to come closer. Here they can notice the symmetry, balanced weight and design cues like the slightly larger slope of the case that looks like it sucks in the keycaps. Finally, when getting really up-close with the board, tiny details start to stand out like the continuous curvature of the outer edges and the tiny fillets used on the main chamfers to soften the look & feel.

A private GB was held for the Mk.1 design in 2020. It was planned to enter the public GB phase shortly after but was deemed too risky at that point in time due to the pandemic. However, armed with new insights, we improved the Mk.2 in terms of assembly, typing feel, and machinability while staying true to my initial vision for the board.




Changes from the Mk.1:
Mounting changed from poron gasket mounting to o-ring strip gasket mounting.
Plate coverage and stiffness are similar, but gaskets are now removable/replaceable to experiment with different materials and hardnesses.

Overhauled internal construction.
No mid-piece and faceplate but a single bottom piece. This simplifies the complex machining of the Mk.1 design and reduces the number of screws needed to disassemble the board (from 10 to 4) without losing the screwless exterior.

Added internal weight.
To offset the weight from the previously optional stainless steel faceplate/mid-piece in order to increase total weight and cover the daughterboard cable channel.

Introduced Polycarbonate top version.
Due to the new assembly method of the Mk.2, there are no visible screws in the PC top, and all threads remain in the aluminium bottom. The PC top didn't fit the desired design language in the Mk.1 since the screws would be visible.


The design language and ratios have remained the same but refined with continuous curvature on the outer radii, softened edges less prone to damage, and updated logo at the bottom.




Product details:
Specifications:
6.5 degree typing angle
7.5 degree top case angle
Clean seamless construction
23.1mm Adjusted Keyboard Front Height
O-ring strip gasket mount compatibel with 3mm ø cord
6063 Aluminium top/bottom case or option for PC top.
Copper internal weight
Estimated weight: 1.5kg (built)
Compatible with Geon 60% removable rubber feet
QMK/VIA compatible PCB by Martin
Further options and colourways TBD


Plate & PCB:
Default plate compatibility
(https://i.imgur.com/FSBMPII.png)

PCB compatibility
(https://i.imgur.com/F0uujYk.png)


Current sale plans:
Antipode exclusive in-stock, 100-200 planned units, estimated price $299-499 depending on edtion, further details TBD




Visuals:
Prototype Photos:

First round of prototypes:
(https://i.imgur.com/j90fWNZ.jpeg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/kKzjIGm.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vZUlZ4C.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KvCURiX.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JPXc7EP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UTderR1.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oB8XgrF.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PBfc03X.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XjZWM6H.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/na6fDO2.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SG4YFGf.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5hKwHm3.jpeg)


Second round of prototypes:
(https://i.imgur.com/Hg8xT7q.jpeg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/8zIEcge.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FJl0ExD.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/H2zbsmx.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QuGuncO.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wSQvNf1.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ITMQ3gj.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/joRlcjX.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/18FYRs8.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/m7Boc7O.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NFrtEKC.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zmBoEgx.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TaSoEFY.jpeg)


Case internals:
(https://i.imgur.com/09rk3bW.jpeg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/ObQMf5G.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gFYs8vL.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lk4WCY8.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WnnGOrm.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OHWOzGw.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uf8nUyT.jpeg)



Typing tests:
First round prototype with Gateron Oil kings on Alu plate:

First round prototype with Sarokey strawberry wines on Alu plate:




Special thanks to:
The Antipode team, for collaborating with me on my personal dream project and offering a level of collaboration unheard of in this hobby.

All buyers and supporters of the Mk.1 Pneuma, for offering great insights for improvement and their long term support for this project ❤️.



INTEREST CHECK FORM (https://forms.gle/8LpD7AyYyu9qfKzf9)


Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: keepoto on Wed, 06 March 2024, 06:12:53
no HHKB? im so sad

Mod Edit: Test
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: mvkb on Wed, 06 March 2024, 06:35:55
The long-awaited return! GLWIC

– Typed on a Crushed Orchid Pneuma Mk.1/HHKB
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: antipode-studio on Wed, 06 March 2024, 06:41:38
no HHKB? im so sad

HHKB is an option! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: vhaarr on Wed, 06 March 2024, 07:57:32
Rocking it with the 60s! I love it! Keep them coming LOL
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: thestrayed on Wed, 06 March 2024, 08:15:06
Would love to see PC case and EC support
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: LMarci on Wed, 06 March 2024, 10:26:06
Looks quite nice but would appreciate some pics of the internals :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: The0rigina1 on Wed, 06 March 2024, 10:31:58
Would highly recommend to add pricing before asking if people would be interested in buying it.
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: amorino on Wed, 06 March 2024, 12:12:07
Excited for this one!
Would highly recommend to add pricing before asking if people would be interested in buying it.

Price range is on the post.
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: ylothar on Wed, 06 March 2024, 15:22:10
Please consider offering a dedicated ISO plate as Antipode has already done i.e. with the Virgo.
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: Stewiedk97 on Wed, 06 March 2024, 23:13:15
Looks quite nice but would appreciate some pics of the internals :thumb:

Just took images of the internals yesterday. Will be added soon! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: antipode-studio on Thu, 07 March 2024, 02:34:20
Looks quite nice but would appreciate some pics of the internals :thumb:

Here you go!

(https://i.imgur.com/09rk3bW.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ObQMf5G.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gFYs8vL.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lk4WCY8.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WnnGOrm.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OHWOzGw.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uf8nUyT.jpeg)
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: Nascent on Thu, 07 March 2024, 04:22:33
Loving the design! I wish there was an option to get extra tops with the kit, just to get an alu and a PC top
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: Ekish on Thu, 07 March 2024, 04:23:07
GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: keepoto on Thu, 07 March 2024, 04:25:00
no HHKB? im so sad

HHKB is an option! :)

thanks now im happy :)
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Thu, 07 March 2024, 10:58:03
Based on the photos, does this use a unified daughterboard? If a HS PCB isn't an option, would a standard 65% PCB be compatible?

Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: Stewiedk97 on Sun, 10 March 2024, 03:50:57
Based on the photos, does this use a unified daughterboard? If a HS PCB isn't an option, would a standard 65% PCB be compatible?

Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk

A standard pcb won't fit due to the location of the DB connector and the cutouts for the required assembly screw points. But we'll make sure to have plenty for everyone!
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Sun, 10 March 2024, 06:14:15
Based on the photos, does this use a unified daughterboard? If a HS PCB isn't an option, would a standard 65% PCB be compatible?

Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk

A standard pcb won't fit due to the location of the DB connector and the cutouts for the required assembly screw points. But we'll make sure to have plenty for everyone!
Is there a Hotswap PCB option? Also, is the daughterboard a unified daughterboard or proprietary?

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: conternecticus on Sun, 10 March 2024, 11:35:26
Love the pc top alu bottom look! Will keep a close eye on this project. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: Stewiedk97 on Mon, 11 March 2024, 08:12:46
Based on the photos, does this use a unified daughterboard? If a HS PCB isn't an option, would a standard 65% PCB be compatible?

Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk

A standard pcb won't fit due to the location of the DB connector and the cutouts for the required assembly screw points. But we'll make sure to have plenty for everyone!
Is there a Hotswap PCB option? Also, is the daughterboard a unified daughterboard or proprietary?

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

No HS pcb planned for now due to the order quantities of the project so we preferred offering more layout flexibility with the solder pcb. However, the solder pcb is compatible with Millmax sockets so you're still able to make it hotswap if you like to have a Hotswap option (I will do this myself as well for 1 build). The daughterboard is a unified one though!
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: tactilesbad on Tue, 12 March 2024, 03:45:40
No HS pcb planned for now
based
also 299 starting price sounds reasonable, gg
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: The0rigina1 on Fri, 15 March 2024, 16:43:26
Excited for this one!
Would highly recommend to add pricing before asking if people would be interested in buying it.

Price range is on the post.
That is literally useless information. Zero mention on what configuration would cost what money.
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: Stewiedk97 on Mon, 18 March 2024, 15:37:56
Excited for this one!
Would highly recommend to add pricing before asking if people would be interested in buying it.

Price range is on the post.
That is literally useless information. Zero mention on what configuration would cost what money.

It is still an IC so we are still collection feedback on the options people would like to see. That means we don't have any concrete prices yet, just this range from the prototype orders and earlier quotations as an indication for now. But we will update prices after we've received updated quotations and once we've decided on options and the best way to run the project :)
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: involuntarysoul on Mon, 18 March 2024, 19:04:36
wish the typing angle would be in the 8 degree range
Title: Re: [IC] Pneuma Mk.2/60 - Interest Check
Post by: antipode-studio on Sat, 30 March 2024, 06:57:26
Hi everyone, we have now decided on final colors and pricing for the Pneuma,

More info can be found here: https://www.antipode.studio/collections/pneuma (https://www.antipode.studio/collections/pneuma)

Plan is to open up a very limited pre-order for the Pneuma at the end of April/Beginning of May.

Stoic and Midnight will be pre-order exclusives color options. WK and HHKB layouts for all colors will also be a pre-oreder exclusive. We will only stock WKL.

if you are interested in the Pneuma, have questions etc feel free to join our discord http://discord.antipode.no  (http://discord.antipode.no)