[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74079.0][img]http://i.imgur.com/bBnIuoV.png[/img][/url](http://i.imgur.com/bBnIuoV.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74079.0)If I can get a set with UK legends, I would be pretty satisfied.Expect to be paying $40-50 extra for an international add-on. Just saying.
charred orange has very washed out legends, this set must have the deep orange shade like the original skidata
Also support the call for relegendable add on.
charred orange has very washed out legends, this set must have the deep orange shade like the original skidata
As long as the TAB mod get's fixed I'll definitely be in.
Is it worth hoping for a DE pack?
I am interested if a NO pack becomes available :)
If I can get a set with UK legends, I would be pretty satisfied.
I need a spare set! :P
Just use some of my photos for mockups. ;)
Hmm, might be interested if there's 60% support.
JaccoW, you would : 3 Huehuehue ~
Not sure what does this mean... You mean 60% non standard bottom row?Hmm, might be interested if there's 60% support.
Not sure what does this mean... You mean 60% non standard bottom row?Hmm, might be interested if there's 60% support.
Hello sir what I meant is most of the 60s that I know about use 1.25x bottom rows with one of them usually a Fn (in place of the menu key typically). So adding a 1.25 blank or Fn or some logo or something would support all of those boards.
What about adding in size 1 the following 6 caps for the 75% keyboards: PG Up (R2), PG Down (R3), End (R4), FN (R4), CTRL (R4), ALT (R4) ? These are only 6 keycaps but I think many of us have this size of board... :-)Not sure what does this mean... You mean 60% non standard bottom row?Hmm, might be interested if there's 60% support.
Hello sir what I meant is most of the 60s that I know about use 1.25x bottom rows with one of them usually a Fn (in place of the menu key typically). So adding a 1.25 blank or Fn or some logo or something would support all of those boards.
This will be covered, as Fn is already included in the HHKB support keys.
What about adding in size 1 the following 6 caps for the 75% keyboards: PG Up (R2), PG Down (R3), End (R4), FN (R4), CTRL (R4), ALT (R4) ? These are only 6 keycaps but I think many of us have this size of board... :-)
Or alternative have an extra extension set for 75% keyboards? In this set it would include the above + the Arrows (R4) and the Win/CTRL/ALT on the left?
Oupsie I missed the 75% part ... my bad.What about adding in size 1 the following 6 caps for the 75% keyboards: PG Up (R2), PG Down (R3), End (R4), FN (R4), CTRL (R4), ALT (R4) ? These are only 6 keycaps but I think many of us have this size of board... :-)
Or alternative have an extra extension set for 75% keyboards? In this set it would include the above + the Arrows (R4) and the Win/CTRL/ALT on the left?
The 75% keys will be included in the base set, as stated in the original post. SKIDATA+ will be following the conventional Cherry 75% layout, so that is (from top to bottom) Home, PgUp, PgDn, End.
I am not sure what you mean by arrows + Win/CTRL/ALT on the left, as these keys will for sure be included in the base set, in both Winkeyless and Winkey sizes.
The base set will include keys for 1800, HHKB, 75%, and some extras, all in Skidata colours. There won't be many keys, if any, that you will lack from the baseset.
Do not worry, as a keyboard enthusiast like yourself, my intentions have always been to offer a complete Skidata keyset for the community, with enough keys to fit every conventional Cherry-style keyboards out there. (Unfortunately, there are weird keyboards that use strange layouts like the Filco Minila; there is simply no way to support those unconventionally sized keys).
It will be a lot more clear once the mockups are posted; please look forward to that :)
Not sure what does this mean... You mean 60% non standard bottom row?Hmm, might be interested if there's 60% support.
Hello sir what I meant is most of the 60s that I know about use 1.25x bottom rows with one of them usually a Fn (in place of the menu key typically). So adding a 1.25 blank or Fn or some logo or something would support all of those boards.
This will be covered, as Fn is already included in the HHKB support keys.
I also support KHAANNN's suggestion for an extra pair of homing keys with bumps instead of scoops.
Seriously, this. How do people type with scoops instead of bumps?I also support KHAANNN's suggestion for an extra pair of homing keys with bumps instead of scoops.
As do I. I would most likely only buy if we had a bump homing option.
KHAAAAAAAAAN!
I still want the scoops!
I vote lines over bumps for alternate homing.Ok, if people are asking for lines then I'll happily jump on the line train!
Gateron has the best idea, scoops + lines, but after that I like scoops the most, then lines, then bumps. I still want scoops to be in there, because that is what the OG set has, but if there has to be an alternate, I would vote for lines.I vote lines over bumps for alternate homing.Ok, if people are asking for lines then I'll happily jump on the line train!
The terminology also seems to be mixed, at least I'm mixing it, I don't think GMK has the bumps on ABS's, we probably all mean bump == line in this contextI have some OG cherry w/ nipples.
I have some OG cherry w/ nipples.directly in the center of the cap?
I have some OG cherry w/ nipples.directly in the center of the cap?
yep, also on f & jI have some OG cherry w/ nipples.directly in the center of the cap?
Most likely, a la "5" on the numpad.
yep, also on f & jI have some OG cherry w/ nipples.directly in the center of the cap?
Most likely, a la "5" on the numpad.
Oh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
Then we can call the whole set "Burnt Creamsicle"...Oh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
ewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
ewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
ooooohewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
Okay, let me clarify. Uniform orange with white legends.
ewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
Okay, let me clarify. Uniform orange with white legends.
ewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
Okay, let me clarify. Uniform orange with white legends.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CQO1i7x.png)
Would the keyset be priced to beat buying a whole skidata board?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keyboard-Trackball-Skidata-Ps-2-Multimedia-Mechanical-Cherry-Keys-/271456070304?hash=item3f340aeaa0
Would the keyset be priced to beat buying a whole skidata board?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keyboard-Trackball-Skidata-Ps-2-Multimedia-Mechanical-Cherry-Keys-/271456070304?hash=item3f340aeaa0
It is difficult to directly compare the base set with the Skidata keyboard because they are two different things. After shipping, the keyboard will be very expensive.
The benefit of buying the keyboard is that you get switches in addition to the keycaps, but it is ISO only, and it's not so cost effective after shipping fees.
The SKIDATA+ base set will support ANSI, 75%, 60%, HHKB, and other layouts. The original Skidata does not support any of those layouts mentioned above and only comes in ISO.
ewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
Okay, let me clarify. Uniform orange with white legends.
ewwOh, by "bumps" I meant lines, not dots.Yes, orange alphas with white legends...
Anyone else like the idea of Orange alphas?
Okay, let me clarify. Uniform orange with white legends.
Like this?
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ps) I still give the scoops my support.
It's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
It's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
Holy ****, we can't even mention something else in an IC thread? TIL.
I'm just not sure why someone would even need to suggest turning this into what would be basically an entirely different setIt's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
Holy ****, we can't even mention something else in an IC thread? TIL.
It's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
Holy ****, we can't even mention something else in an IC thread? TIL.
Discussion is always welcome! That said, this buy will only contain Skidata colourways, I hope people can respect that. :) No need for any mads.
It's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
Holy ****, we can't even mention something else in an IC thread? TIL.
Discussion is always welcome! That said, this buy will only contain Skidata colourways, I hope people can respect that. :) No need for any mads.
I love Skidata colorway, but I bought Charred Orange long ago.
It's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
Holy ****, we can't even mention something else in an IC thread? TIL.
Discussion is always welcome! That said, this buy will only contain Skidata colourways, I hope people can respect that. :) No need for any mads.
I love Skidata colorway, but I bought Charred Orange long ago.
So why are you here?
How do you know the orange was discovered before the carrot? Because it's called an orange.It's skidata, not orangesicle. You want orangesicle? Go make another thread
Holy ****, we can't even mention something else in an IC thread? TIL.
Discussion is always welcome! That said, this buy will only contain Skidata colourways, I hope people can respect that. :) No need for any mads.
I love Skidata colorway, but I bought Charred Orange long ago.
So why are you here?
Apparently to annoy you.
And to support Karura's buy, if only morally.
And since you don't seem to get it, hwood, I mentioned the white on orange because I would love to see it run in another buy. Not this one. People were throwing out ideas about orange.
How do you know the orange was discovered before the carrot? Because it's called an orange.
So will this basically look like charred orange? I really didn't care for it, I wished the orange would have stood out more.No, it will be a brighter orange. I like to think of Charred Orange as a mistake. The color is dull, doesn't pop at all, compared to Skidata where it pops nicely, and the Charred Orange legends appear translucent. If my description isn't detailed enough Karura has a post w/ some more info.
Yeah, a big problem with Charred orange was the orange legends, which were super pale in part because they were also pretty translucent.So will this basically look like charred orange? I really didn't care for it, I wished the orange would have stood out more.No, it will be a brighter orange. I like to think of Charred Orange as a mistake. The color is dull, doesn't pop at all, compared to Skidata where it pops nicely, and the Charred Orange legends appear translucent. If my description isn't detailed enough Karura has a post w/ some more info.
These LEDs are orange, but the legends don't appear to be translucent on Charred Orange, at least to me they don't. Keep in mind this is a phone pic.
(http://i.imgur.com/RtOYUiP.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/RtOYUiP.jpg)
So, how will the legends in the Skidata+ set differ from those in Charred Orange? Doesn't GMK only have a limited color selection? I assume Originative used the standard orange color. Will Skidata+ use a custom color?
I can't remember, but there was a picture of the legends glowing a little. I am sure Karura will post some more w/ the information he has. He showed me a little bit of info about the difference.These LEDs are orange, but the legends don't appear to be translucent on Charred Orange, at least to me they don't. Keep in mind this is a phone pic.
(http://i.imgur.com/RtOYUiP.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/RtOYUiP.jpg)
So, how will the legends in the Skidata+ set differ from those in Charred Orange? Doesn't GMK only have a limited color selection? I assume Originative used the standard orange color. Will Skidata+ use a custom color?
That is what I was trying to ask. ;)
These LEDs are orange, but the legends don't appear to be translucent on Charred Orange, at least to me they don't. Keep in mind this is a phone pic.
So, how will the legends in the Skidata+ set differ from those in Charred Orange? Doesn't GMK only have a limited color selection? I assume Originative used the standard orange color. Will Skidata+ use a custom color?
So will this basically look like charred orange? I really didn't care for it, I wished the orange would have stood out more.
I wasn't and am not trying to say there is anything wrong with this buy, so please don't misunderstand. In fact, I think it's a great idea to go ahead with it, even if it were exactly the same as Originative's Charred Orange set, save for the Tab legend.I don't recall when TA was made, but Skidata was 1994, and was made completely by GMK. I don't know the relevance of this to your question, but it might answer or give hint to answering the question, or at least un-fog some areas.
However, the difference in the legends between the original Skidata set and Originative's Charred Orange MIGHT be due to a reformulation in the plastic composition between then and now. I'm only speculating, as we were told the formulations had changed since some of the historical sets, e.g. Triumph Adler, we're produced. It was said that the original blue color of the TA set yellowed over time, to give a nice teal color, which would not happen with GMK's modern plastic formulation. Thoughts?
I wasn't and am not trying to say there is anything wrong with this buy, so please don't misunderstand. In fact, I think it's a great idea to go ahead with it, even if it were exactly the same as Originative's Charred Orange set, save for the Tab legend.
However, the difference in the legends between the original Skidata set and Originative's Charred Orange MIGHT be due to a reformulation in the plastic composition between then and now. I'm only speculating, as we were told the formulations had changed since some of the historical sets, e.g. Triumph Adler, we're produced. It was said that the original blue color of the TA set yellowed over time, to give a nice teal color, which would not happen with GMK's modern plastic formulation. Thoughts?
I wasn't and am not trying to say there is anything wrong with this buy, so please don't misunderstand. In fact, I think it's a great idea to go ahead with it, even if it were exactly the same as Originative's Charred Orange set, save for the Tab legend.
However, the difference in the legends between the original Skidata set and Originative's Charred Orange MIGHT be due to a reformulation in the plastic composition between then and now. I'm only speculating, as we were told the formulations had changed since some of the historical sets, e.g. Triumph Adler, we're produced. It was said that the original blue color of the TA set yellowed over time, to give a nice teal color, which would not happen with GMK's modern plastic formulation. Thoughts?
What we all really want is Orangesicle: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70797.0
Thanks for the tests :thumb:No problem, I am glad to educate :thumb:
I am sure if you make GMK aware of those issues, they can do some internal tests beforehand and not screw up the final production run.
If this set came out like Charred Orange I'd probably never use it...
I have to say the Charred Orange seems more "unique" rather than "flawed" - the bleed-through might even be considered a feature, with backlights on, it becomes more like a "spooky orange" setI would like to respectfully disagree, because no other GMK or Cherry keysets have had this problem.
While I do appreciate the discussion, the colourway for this buy will stick true to V2 (Orange) and N9 (Dark Grey).What we all really want is Orangesicle: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70797.0
Can't argue with statistics :))
Don't get me wrong, I ALSO want this set :) And I'm not alone in that. Didn't mean to say that this set isn't worth getting.
I really like the look of the original SkiData boards, but not such a fan of their layout, so with this set I can get the same look, but in the layout I like. :D I almost pulled the trigger on the Charred set a few months back, very glad now that I didn't.
While I do appreciate the discussion, the colourway for this buy will stick true to V2 (Orange) and N9 (Dark Grey).What we all really want is Orangesicle: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70797.0
Can't argue with statistics :))
It's not public knowledge, but SKIDATA+ has actually been in the works for over 10 months, and most of the layouts and design choices have already been finalized.
To be completely transparent, it started with reaching out to JaccoW and other members of the community that had already owned the set, to me actually acquiring both the Skidata keyboard, and Charred Orange, only to be disappointed that Charred Orange had some flaws with the legends and colours.
Then additional research on GMK legends, layout design and support, and other important factors that contribute to a successful group buy was conducted.
There was a lot of legwork involved and research done to reach the point where I felt comfortable in starting an IC.
I am completely dedicated to making this happen, and together, I am sure we will have a successful GB ;)
While I do appreciate the discussion, the colourway for this buy will stick true to V2 (Orange) and N9 (Dark Grey).What we all really want is Orangesicle: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70797.0
Can't argue with statistics :))
It's not public knowledge, but SKIDATA+ has actually been in the works for over 10 months, and most of the layouts and design choices have already been finalized.
To be completely transparent, it started with reaching out to JaccoW and other members of the community that had already owned the set, to me actually acquiring both the Skidata keyboard, and Charred Orange, only to be disappointed that Charred Orange had some flaws with the legends and colours.
Then additional research on GMK legends, layout design and support, and other important factors that contribute to a successful group buy was conducted.
There was a lot of legwork involved and research done to reach the point where I felt comfortable in starting an IC.
I am completely dedicated to making this happen, and together, I am sure we will have a successful GB ;)
Keeping my eye on this one.
Keeping my eye on this one.
Will there be 1x mods included as well as tsangan sets?
But what fun is that?Will there be 1x mods included as well as tsangan sets?
Hush child, don't make a fool of yourself. Just text me lol
Will there be 1x mods included as well as tsangan sets?
No just the win keys. Thanks.Will there be 1x mods included as well as tsangan sets?
WKL keys, including 1u window keys will be included.
I have literally seen no one use 1u Ctrl, Alt keys so those will probably not be included. Do you require it?
Will there be 1x mods included as well as tsangan sets?
WKL keys, including 1u window keys will be included.
I have literally seen no one use 1u Ctrl, Alt keys so those will probably not be included. Do you require it?
Will there be 1x mods included as well as tsangan sets?
WKL keys, including 1u window keys will be included.
I have literally seen no one use 1u Ctrl, Alt keys so those will probably not be included. Do you require it?
I use a 1u Alt on my JD40 :)
Some ideas for modifiers,
grey + orange legends
white + orange legends
orange + black legends
I'd support a separate GB for inverted (black legends on orange) modifiers for this set. That's very nearly my dream set. But it's probably too much to ask from this GB. GMK's MOQ doesn't play nice with add-ons. :(
I'd support a separate GB for inverted (black legends on orange) modifiers for this set. That's very nearly my dream set. But it's probably too much to ask from this GB. GMK's MOQ doesn't play nice with add-ons. :(
Almost everything that people have mentioned in the thread has already been considered months ago, and many ideas have already been included in the design of the entire set. The design has been finalized for many months now.
Sit tight and wait for the mockups. You won't be disappointed.
I'd support a separate GB for inverted (black legends on orange) modifiers for this set. That's very nearly my dream set. But it's probably too much to ask from this GB. GMK's MOQ doesn't play nice with add-ons. :(
Almost everything that people have mentioned in the thread has already been considered months ago, and many ideas have already been included in the design of the entire set. The design has been finalized for many months now.
Sit tight and wait for the mockups. You won't be disappointed.
Working on getting a Data 911, I think this keyset would look great on it.
Gonna have to vote for 1u CTRL and ALT keys at least. Not sure if 1.25 and 1.5 Shift keys have been discussed but I think I'll need those as well. I'm sure I could find a blank 1.5u key for that weird "1" key, or maybe I could get an extra add on.
Do F and J have a dash or a deep dish?
Do F and J have a dash or a deep dish?
Do F and J have a dash or a deep dish?
Since this is a GMK set that tries to be faithful to the original I assume there will be scoops.
So you are saying scoops are unusable?
I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.So you are saying scoops are unusable?
I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...
Possible to add an extra 2.25 shift for FC660M owners ?Most people don't use leopold keyboards. It sucks at how they designed the board to be inconvenient. Maybe when it launches you can find an ISO user who is willing to part.
That's the only missing part to make it compatible with the leopold keyboard.
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.So you are saying scoops are unusable?
I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...
I think that scoops / lines issue should be addressed w/ a color mod pack, like Ivan did, but I know Karura probably has something figured out alreadyMy view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.So you are saying scoops are unusable?
I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...
+1, scoops should be an acquired taste for the new generation, unless your parents built you a keyboard with gmk keycaps from age 4
comparatively, all oem keyboards, that the majority of people use have dashes
we didn't see the GMK sketches tho, let's holster our guns until the sketches arrive (apart from the scoops, there are a lot of suggestions, as I understand most of these are already in the sketches, from the tone of OP)
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.Well, considering this is a GB on GH, it would make sense to go with what the majority likes (for good reason, dashes are absolutely horrible)So you are saying scoops are unusable?
I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...
Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
For this to happen, I would require a large amount of orders, say 500, and would require a lot of extra time from me, which would delay the sorting process for the entire keyset, which I'm not sure if people would be happy with.
Really like this GMK set, we all need some more Orange Love here on Geekhack ;D .
Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.Cherry/GMK love = scoops love
Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
Or you know, cater to the wants of most other people getting in on this
w00p w00p!! SKIDATA+ hype!
This set will definitely have to become reality :) Thanks for the support!
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.
Couldn't care less about it, as long as the WHOLE key-set gets made to order.
If having this done for an 1800 layout as well, will cause some serious damage to my shorts as they're ripped from my body in joyous celebration :p .
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same.
The set was designed with the original Skidata keyset in mind using ISO symbols without text, so unfortunately won't be changing to Text + Icons, to retain true to the original ;)
The set was designed with the original Skidata keyset in mind using ISO symbols without text, so unfortunately won't be changing to Text + Icons, to retain true to the original ;)
Fair enough.
What about a black on orange mod kit with text+icon legends? Would be nice to have the option to create a two tone set!
I'm getting a broken link on the GMK renders.Same here. The image doesn't show up.
I have re-uploaded the render. I hope it works now!
I have re-uploaded the render. I hope it works now!
Surely the R2 Control is supposed to be R3 Control?
Surely the R2 Control is supposed to be R3 Control?
Good catch! Just double checked the spec sheet I sent and realized that it's my mistake and not GMK's.
Will have that added to the list of things to update ;)
I hope we have all the correct keys with these changes, but please do let me know if anything else is off.
I can confirm 1800, 75% and HHKB layout (with R3 Control change) are correct.
<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>Do you do anything else here but *****?
<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>Do you do anything else here but *****?
I'm sure it will really hurt the buy not to have your order<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>Do you do anything else here but *****?
Sorry if I want to give you my money.
.I'm sure it will really hurt the buy not to have your order<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>Do you do anything else here but *****?
Sorry if I want to give you my money.
From now on, any further discussion regarding bars, scoops, nipples, dimples, boobs, whatever, will be considered disrespectful towards the GB, and hence violators will be persecuted and banned from participating in the GB.:thumb:
I hope this helps :p
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the thread already but shouldn't the 1.75 control key be in r3 profile rather than r2?that was addressed, it is being fixed
Not sure if this has been mentioned in the thread already but shouldn't the 1.75 control key be in r3 profile rather than r2?that was addressed, it is being fixed
Oh god no, spare my wallet. I can't take a skidata GMK set with decent key selection.
From now on, any further discussion regarding bars, scoops, nipples, dimples, boobs, whatever, will be considered disrespectful towards the GB, and hence violators will be persecuted and banned from participating in the GB.
I hope this helps :p
Oh god no, spare my wallet. I can't take a skidata GMK set with decent key selection.
Wait till you see the add-ons... :O
very, very nice legend picks - a legend-less numpad is the only thing I'd do differently but nice gb though!
This set has a charming and unique color-way. i couldn't resist the charming temptation of this color-way.Meh...
This unique color-way make this set match not so well with the common MOD Packs such as CMYW, CMYK,RGBY,RGBK as the hyper fuse and class beige do
However, the colorful and abundant mods included in this mock up make this set have more compatibility with many keyboards' lay-out.
What you have done for this replic set is fabulous and great and will be appreciated much . Thank you very much and keep on
(http://i.imgur.com/0ysxwoXh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/0ysxwoX)
Oh yeah, we are definitely going with the numpad legends of the OG with a small change, Mathematical symbols for * and / legends instead.
Oh yeah, we are definitely going with the numpad legends of the OG with a small change, Mathematical symbols for * and / legends instead.
Why mathematical symbols? (Seriously, I'm genuinely interested in why people would prefer them over the original glyphs, because I don't)
Oh yeah, we are definitely going with the numpad legends of the OG with a small change, Mathematical symbols for * and / legends instead.
Why mathematical symbols? (Seriously, I'm genuinely interested in why people would prefer them over the original glyphs, because I don't)
Simple answer, it's an OG Cherry DE ISO style, and the purpose of the numpad is really to just act like a calculator, so it makes sense and looks good to have the proper symbols. Also it goes with our set, due to it being an adaptation of Skidata which was a DE ISO set ;)
With the way things have been going, hopefully we can even place the order with GMK before the one year anniversary of the project :thumb:hi , when did you want to make this happen? i need to save money for this set
It's merely a carefully thought-out design choice, part of the update/refreshment of the original set, hope this clears things up. :)
Not really. If it's essentially a standard ANSI set, then I'd prefer a compelling reason to use ÷ and × instead of the standard ANSI symbols / and *
(To be clear, if Triumph Adler GMK was made as an authentic reproduction, complete with German legends and ÷ and ×, I'd be fine with it. I just prefer consistency and sticking to a standard over some arbitrary novelty.)
I guess the "arrow" (not sure what to call it) style caps lock symbol is being used because people do not like the pad lock symbol?
Oh, duh lol. I was just curious, as I had not seen it before ( I never looked at an original skidata set ) :-[I guess the "arrow" (not sure what to call it) style caps lock symbol is being used because people do not like the pad lock symbol?
is it used because it is the style of Original skidata :Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8206/8231574393_b96e0e9758_b.jpg)
Oh, duh lol. I was just curious, as I had not seen it before ( I never looked at an original skidata set ) :-[I guess the "arrow" (not sure what to call it) style caps lock symbol is being used because people do not like the pad lock symbol?
is it used because it is the style of Original skidata :Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8206/8231574393_b96e0e9758_b.jpg)
And if anyone wants to see any particular color combo just let me know. Chances are I can give you an impression on how well they match. ;)Oh, duh lol. I was just curious, as I had not seen it before ( I never looked at an original skidata set ) :-[I guess the "arrow" (not sure what to call it) style caps lock symbol is being used because people do not like the pad lock symbol?
is it used because it is the style of Original skidata :Show Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8206/8231574393_b96e0e9758_b.jpg)
Haha, it's understandable. I recommend checking out JaccoW's photos in the OP ;)
He has them displayed on his various custom keyboards; all very nice.
They're the keyboards that inspired me to run this GB!
And if anyone wants to see any particular color combo just let me know. Chances are I can give you an impression on how well they match. ;)
I will try shooting some CMYW, RGBY and perhaps a few other colors later this week.
MAJOR UPDATE! New finalized mockups posted!
There have been colour corrected to better represent the real keycap colours.
There is still more to come ;)
MAJOR UPDATE! New finalized mockups posted!
There have been colour corrected to better represent the real keycap colours.
There is still more to come ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MRrYjNl.png)
This is sexy.
MAJOR UPDATE! New finalized mockups posted!
There have been colour corrected to better represent the real keycap colours.
There is still more to come ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MRrYjNl.png)
This is sexy.
Not really. If it's essentially a standard ANSI set, then I'd prefer a compelling reason to use ÷ and × instead of the standard ANSI symbols / and *
(To be clear, if Triumph Adler GMK was made as an authentic reproduction, complete with German legends and ÷ and ×, I'd be fine with it. I just prefer consistency and sticking to a standard over some arbitrary novelty.)
This set is far from standard, just as the original Skidata was a GMK creation, without following any conventional standards, and contained a mix match of both English and DE ISO legends.
Despite not following any standards, I'd argue that the original Skidata set still turned out pretty good, and is well-loved.
Please keep in mind that when designing keyset legends, there will always be compromises made as it is not possible to include every legend out there to satisfy everyone.
The very least that can be done is to make sure there are enough keys with the correct legend-type, for every conventional layout to ensure max compatibility, which is how SKIDATA+ was designed.
SKIDATA+ will use "÷" and "×" for the numpad area.
http://i.imgur.com/6rLuqfb.png (http://i.imgur.com/6rLuqfb.png):confused: you'd get somewhere in the region of 220 caps if you buy both the set and the addon pack
Whoa this looks really really nice! Just curious, how many keys would I end up with if I were to buy all the keys that can do all the layers in the mockup?
I can probably figure this out but I had a long day... _brain_shorted_
Do we know what a rough price will be?going by previous buys, 100 euros/120 usd for the base set and 50 euros/$60usd for the addon. probably slightly higher
These look gorgeous but there's a lot going on so I'm expecting them to be very expensive :'(
all those add on pack and not one with an extra 2x25 shift T_T
http://i.imgur.com/6rLuqfb.png (http://i.imgur.com/6rLuqfb.png):confused: you'd get somewhere in the region of 220 caps if you buy both the set and the addon pack
Whoa this looks really really nice! Just curious, how many keys would I end up with if I were to buy all the keys that can do all the layers in the mockup?
I can probably figure this out but I had a long day... _brain_shorted_Do we know what a rough price will be?going by previous buys, 100 euros/120 usd for the base set and 50 euros/$60usd for the addon. probably slightly higher
These look gorgeous but there's a lot going on so I'm expecting them to be very expensive :'(
The option to buy extra spacebars with each set will be offered.
Currently we're waiting for GMK to provide a price quote before we can proceed into GB status :)
Full speed ahead, choo choo :D
I didn't follow this IC everyday. But today I saw mockup on OP & recognize that there isn't text & symbol mod.
I 'm so sad.
The option to buy extra spacebars with each set will be offered.
Currently we're waiting for GMK to provide a price quote before we can proceed into GB status :)
Full speed ahead, choo choo :D
Navigation keys were excluded from the orange pack as a design choice.
With the inclusion of windowed Caps lock, Scroll lock keys, as well as compatibility support for a variety of popular layouts, the reverse set is already a lot larger than most modpacks.
If the navigation keys were to be included in the reverse set, then the navigation keys for 1800, 75% should also be included (otherwise it wouldn't look right to include TKL nav keys but not for the other layouts), and while we're at it, might as well add the numpad keys, adding up to a total of 14 extra keys. Hope that clears things up :)
Likewise, numpad users are a bit rare, but a numpad enter was still included, so it would look really nice either way. The add-on is really desiged to add a splash of colour to the set.
Also, I really like how evenly spread out it is, going from Orange to Charcoal then back to Orange in each major section.
The option to buy extra spacebars with each set will be offered.
Currently we're waiting for GMK to provide a price quote before we can proceed into GB status :)
Full speed ahead, choo choo :D
Is the third set (TBA) going to be spacebars then? Or something else?
I didn't follow this IC everyday. But today I saw mockup on OP & recognize that there isn't text & symbol mod.
I 'm so sad.
You will be fine, my friend, just have to get used to it ;)
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Can we add black on orange on these keys in Add- on pack too. Two tone regular theme will need this to be perfect :D
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Can we add black on orange on these keys in Add- on pack too. Two tone regular theme will need this to be perfect :D
Without doubt this shall be the MOST sought after GMK set yet released.
Always loved the Orange hit but now you've overdosed me severely and I want this now more than EVER. PLease make this happen soon.
I loved the Hack'd keyset, but now having orange on GMK! OH BOY!
I loved the Hack'd keyset, but now having orange on GMK! OH BOY!
YES my son, Orange is the new Black here on Geekhack Central 8) .
already have a charred orange set...but that addon pack!
my loins stir!
Just a little update, we're getting closer to a price quote on the [3] keyset, and things are looking good.
My wallet is NOT ready (been hit by Jukebox, Retro, Carbon, Out of the Vault Series III and Zealio switches), but I am.
Just a little update, we're getting closer to a price quote on the [3] keyset, and things are looking good.
Just a little update, we're getting closer to a price quote on the [3] keyset, and things are looking good.
Projected GB start will be late Sept or early Oct, if everything goes smoothly.
Look forward to it.
Projected GB start will be late Sept or early Oct, if everything goes smoothly.
Look forward to it.
How long do you intend on keeping the GB open?
Can't wait!
Keep tuned...
There has been a lot of behind the scenes work done to elevate this GB to legendary status. It is literally impossible to describe the amount of coordination it will take to make this happen, as this has never been offered before, but there's nothing stopping the team from realizing the SKIDATA+ dream. :thumb:
All will be revealed in good time. Projected GB start will be late Sept or early Oct, if everything goes smoothly.
Look forward to it.
Stay tuned...
There has been a lot of behind the scenes work done to elevate this GB to legendary status. It is literally impossible to describe the amount of coordination it will take to make this happen, as this has never been offered before, but there's nothing stopping the team from realizing the SKIDATA+ dream. :thumb:
All will be revealed in good time. Projected GB start will be late Sept or early Oct, if everything goes smoothly.
Look forward to it.
Stay tuned...
There has been a lot of behind the scenes work done to elevate this GB to legendary status. It is literally impossible to describe the amount of coordination it will take to make this happen, as this has never been offered before, but there's nothing stopping the team from realizing the SKIDATA+ dream. :thumb:
All will be revealed in good time. Projected GB start will be late Sept or early Oct, if everything goes smoothly.
Look forward to it.
Little teaser from the planning crew...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qc9152B.jpg)
You may be forgetting about the origins of this colorway:Little teaser from the planning crew...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qc9152B.jpg)
Orange on dark grey always works BUT the blue ESC is a little off putting.
Please don't say you'll be mixing a blue colour with essentially a warm coloured colour-way?
You may be forgetting about the origins of this colorway:Little teaser from the planning crew...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qc9152B.jpg)
Orange on dark grey always works BUT the blue ESC is a little off putting.
Please don't say you'll be mixing a blue colour with essentially a warm coloured colour-way?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aCXeZ.jpg)
The original SKIDATA case has a slightly darker blue shade, hence it pulls it off easily. Plus if you've noticed the original key-set, HAS NO BLUE coloured keys (FACT).
You'll have to place your trust in me (and the crew) that it'll turn out amazing. Besides, they'll be extra additions that won't affect what's already here. (Read: Are you really against the idea of having EVEN MORE AWESOME OPTIONS?!) ;)
A vibrant blue would nicely complement the bright orange of the set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qtmlL9d.jpg)
I know Karura is only playing with the idea of offering some unique additions that can turn the set from a modest one to an eye-popping(in a good way ;) ) alternative... If one were so inclined.You'll have to place your trust in me (and the crew) that it'll turn out amazing. Besides, they'll be extra additions that won't affect what's already here. (Read: Are you really against the idea of having EVEN MORE AWESOME OPTIONS?!) ;)
A vibrant blue would nicely complement the bright orange of the set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qtmlL9d.jpg)
Trying to hold back my anticipation to these because the current GMK collection is already getting rather large at my place, whilst being here on Geekhack.
But please remember to try and stay somewhat authentic to the ORIGINAL SkiDATA only because that is what everyone ultimately wants.
I understand your concerns completely. Please do not worry, as these are competely optional additions to introduce a splash of colour for those that might appreciate it, and will not affect the authentic, original Skidata keyset that already exists, haha. Thank you for your concerns. :thumb:
That's the real genius of this set, that if you just buy the base set you have Skidata, but you can add the orange modifiers & other extras and you have Skidata+, so it's a win-win.
Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
Pay GMK by credit card.
Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
Pay GMK by credit card.
Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury to pay GMK directly, or we would have explored that option already.
Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
Pay GMK by credit card.
Sure that would work, but Classic Beige shows that many people have problems NOT paying with Paypal.
And if you use Paypayl your funds might get frozen. It's a tricky situation.
That means you'd have to pay like 30k upfront out of your own pocket.
That's quite some money...
Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
I know you are looking for options but all of those rely heavily on credit cards... which large parts of the world doesn't use.Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
Amazon Payments instead of Paypal is one. Their fees are generally lower as well. Or try Google Wallet
Move to Stripe or another credit card processor.
Run group buys on Kickstarter (****ty cap example here (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/505470364/amiga-inspired-key-caps-for-mechanical-keyboards?ref=nav_search)).
Set up our own group buy site and have multiple payment options like Stripe, WePay, Dwolla, etc.
It looks like one of the main issues here is that it was sold as a good not a service. There's a post on DT (http://deskthority.net/off-topic-f10/how-to-collect-money-with-paypal-and-avoid-problems-t7312.html) about why that's an important distinction.
I know you are looking for options but all of those rely heavily on credit cards... which large parts of the world doesn't use.Have you thought about a solution to avoid this problem?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73626.msg1863969#msg1863969
Amazon Payments instead of Paypal is one. Their fees are generally lower as well. Or try Google Wallet
Move to Stripe or another credit card processor.
Run group buys on Kickstarter (****ty cap example here (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/505470364/amiga-inspired-key-caps-for-mechanical-keyboards?ref=nav_search)).
Set up our own group buy site and have multiple payment options like Stripe, WePay, Dwolla, etc.
It looks like one of the main issues here is that it was sold as a good not a service. There's a post on DT (http://deskthority.net/off-topic-f10/how-to-collect-money-with-paypal-and-avoid-problems-t7312.html) about why that's an important distinction.
That is some good info though. :)
Ultimately it will come down to convenience because if this Group Buy suddenly gets 'complicated' for the purchaser and you try forcing them into a different payment scheme, then you'll lose the numbers necessary to make this tip (FACT).
I've been through numerous GBs here on Geekhack and it's always been Paypal first and everything last or taken off the table. Needless to say those complicated GBs with a different payment system all eventually failed.
If you hate dealing with Paypal then MassDrop would be perfect for you, but since you have this ingrained hatred towards them, then all I can say is good luck on this bud. Hope you can make it tip quickly.
In the end always apply logic to a problem in solving it rather than relying on your own personal feelings towards something or someone.
However, now I hear that Karura is a fellow MassDrop hater, I feel more compelled to join :)
One great thing about Massdrop is that buys ran through them get a lot of orders. I do not have any preference when it comes to the group buy organizer, or which payment method you decide on though. As long as you figure out a way to make the buy run smoothly I am happy :thumb:
Let's also not forget that before Massdrop, GMK's were the best, but after GMK TA, even a proven colorway like Classic Beige is failing, due to the perceived quality reduction they caused with the shipping issues they inflicted on potential buyers, so instead of moving GB's to Massdrop and support them, I would personally boycot Massdrop, and I'm personally boycotting them, generally getting screwed once is enough for me, I don't easily forgive
I can't say I fully understand everyone's hatred for massdrop.
I've had a few bad experiences with them, for example with my vortex pbt set they sent me the wrong replacement key twice, at which point I just gave up. Everything else has been, at worst, decently shpped and arrived within a reasonable time frame, once even over a month earlier than predicted.
And in there defense, the TA shipping disaster more than likely would have happened regardless of who shipped it because of the trays. I'm not saying they couldn't have done a better job but I don't feel like it wouldn't have gone that much better regardless.
And if they enable us to actually buy the caps we want then what's the problem? They take a small cut? They're a business, it's standard practice, just like some of the vendors on geekhack do when they contribute to a GB. Worried about them missing caps when shipping? Have GMK pre-sort them, no problem.
If there's something I'm missing please let me know, but while I wouldn't call them the ideal place to host GBs, it's good to have an alternative if needed.
The general issues with MD are :I agree with the points you've made, especially the overlapping of GBs, and of course I would also prefer to have any given GB run by a trusted member of this community, but if this community alone can't generate enough interest to reach MOQ it's good to have an alternative if need be.
- they generally don't know what they are selling, at some point they were selling spring for cherry switches, the description was basicly : "korean kustom good, korean spring you buy", their descriptions of items clearly let you know they have no clue on what they are selling,
- doesn't work with community, more often the opposite, there has been few instances where MassDrop launched a buy on something that was discussed in the Interest Checks of GeekHack. Recent exemple are gateron buys (switches & keycaps) + now the 60% plates (btw their universal plates are missing a lot of things).
I do agree that they resend items easily if there's a problem, but there seems to always have problem on the items (50% of my MD buys had issues).
For those reasons **** Massdrop, first business I'm boycotting in my life. I prefer to deal with a member of the community and talk to a passionate individual.
MassDrop also doesn't ship to Vietnam
I have no idea, but I proxy for my Vietnamese friendsThe general issues with MD are :I agree with the points you've made, especially the overlapping of GBs, and of course I would also prefer to have any given GB run by a trusted member of this community, but if this community alone can't generate enough interest to reach MOQ it's good to have an alternative if need be.
- they generally don't know what they are selling, at some point they were selling spring for cherry switches, the description was basicly : "korean kustom good, korean spring you buy", their descriptions of items clearly let you know they have no clue on what they are selling,
- doesn't work with community, more often the opposite, there has been few instances where MassDrop launched a buy on something that was discussed in the Interest Checks of GeekHack. Recent exemple are gateron buys (switches & keycaps) + now the 60% plates (btw their universal plates are missing a lot of things).
I do agree that they resend items easily if there's a problem, but there seems to always have problem on the items (50% of my MD buys had issues).
For those reasons **** Massdrop, first business I'm boycotting in my life. I prefer to deal with a member of the community and talk to a passionate individual.MassDrop also doesn't ship to Vietnam
Why's that?
I have no idea, but I proxy for my Vietnamese friendsWell at least that service is provided, good of you to help :thumb:
... (redacted)
Drop, first business I'm boycotting in my life. I prefer to deal with a member of the community and talk to a passionate individual.
MassDrop is like a deal with the devil, it seems great at first, but you are guaranteed to regret it
They are glorified re-shippers, yet they can't even package stuff, worst part is they repeat their mistakes over and over
Sometimes circumstances force you to make a deal with the devil and live with the consequences, the question is, is the situation this dire for the gb-runners?
On the other hand, Massdrop can pretty much guarantee reaching MOQ or at least having the financial resources to cover the MOQ gap (see Sky Dolch). TA may have had quality and shipping issues, but the set design and options was expertly managed by Intelli and using Massdrop allowed him to bring the set to tons of people with very little risk on not reaching MOQ.
as long as I end up with these great caps on my keyboard!+1
Hi guys, I'm aware of the PayPal problem and will try to avoid any problems by following the advice in the DT thread. There has always been an open channel of discussion between Ghost, Radio and I, even before this IC was made, so I will be keeping a close eye on their situation and we will do our best to figure it out.
Regarding Massdrop, they are not suitable to run a group buy like this one, because they aren't passionate and don't understand the keyboard layouts and such as well as we do. Also there were ocasionally QC issues with GMK, which I doubt Massdrop would bring up with GMK and know exactly what to discuss and point out to avoid the problems.
Another reason is that I designed this set to be a "complete meal" which will fulfill the needs of numerous keyboard layouts. It is completely a niche that would not suit the masses on Massdrop. For example, our base set currently has 137 keys, compared to the 110 keys of most buys. And on that note, I respectfully request to have the Massdrop debate moved to its own thread, so we can focus on the amazingness that is the keyset itself. ;)
Besides, I haven't even announced the [3] pack, which I reassure you, Massdrop would have never put the work into making happen, let alone even come up with the idea.
With the support of the community, I have absolutely 100% confidence that SKIDATA+ will become a reality.
hype++
you better have some bumped F/J's in [3] tho :)
hype++
you better have some bumped F/J's in [3] tho :)
Heh, saw your post on classic beige. Would that be a deal breaker for you on this set as well?
you better have some bumped F/J's in [3] tho :)
I'm sorry, but seriously for the very last time, F and J with bars/dashes will not be included, for numerous reasons, one being that they do not contribute to increasing compatibility for different layouts, and another reason being that the silent majority of the site prefers scoops that GMK/Cherry has always used on their keysets, not bars/dashes. I don't wish to touch upon this topic again, there are other threads for it.
If you enjoy the vibrant colours of the set as well as the compatibility of the keysets for different layouts, then please support this group buy. Having compatibility and nice coloured keys is way more important than having dashes on F and J.
The benefits of added compatibility being that, if one day, say you sell your TKL and buy a 1800 or 75% or Lightsaver V2, or even a HHKB/Viper, well guess what? You wouldn't have to sell the keyset, as you could still use them with your brand new keyboard.
If something so simple as not having bars/dashes on F and J is going to stop someone from joining the group buy (the fact that F and J keys already exist in the same legend and profile, so it would be redundant to include these identical keys), then I wish them luck elsewhere.
If something so simple as not having bars/dashes on F and J is going to stop someone from joining the group buy (the fact that F and J keys already exist in the same legend and profile, so it would be redundant to include these identical keys), then I wish them luck elsewhere.
I'm sorry, but seriously for the very last time, F and J with bars/dashes will not be included, for numerous reasons, one being that they do not contribute to increasing compatibility for different layouts, and another reason being that the silent majority of the site prefers scoops that GMK/Cherry has always used on their keysets, not bars/dashes. I don't wish to touch upon this topic again, there are other threads for it.
If you enjoy the vibrant colours of the set as well as the compatibility of the keysets for different layouts, then please support this group buy. Having compatibility and nice coloured keys is way more important than having dashes on F and J.
The benefits of added compatibility being that, if one day, say you sell your TKL and buy a 1800 or 75% or Lightsaver V2, or even a HHKB/Viper, well guess what? You wouldn't have to sell the keyset, as you could still use them with your brand new keyboard.
If something so simple as not having bars/dashes on F and J is going to stop someone from joining the group buy (the fact that F and J keys already exist in the same legend and profile, so it would be redundant to include these identical keys), then I wish them luck elsewhere.
But listening to what your potential buyers want is part of the deal. You have to balance their demands / requests with the intention of the set and evaluate if they're compatible. If it's easy to incorporate and has a fair number of supporters, it should be added. If it takes the set in a direction away from the original intent, don't add it. Those people who "need" such a feature are then not your target audience. In this case, my opinion is that it's easy to include and has a lot of support, so it should be in.
Even though I'm in the scoops crowd the arguments being put forward are starting to sway me into thinking that nibs should be part of a gmk set...
what have you done to me khan....
Just to give a little update on the current status of SKIDATA+:
Paypal will be the method for collecting funds.
Just to give a little update on the current status of SKIDATA+:
Paypal will be the method for collecting funds.
You might wanna check the obstacle in which why the RGBY GB is being refunded
it's paypal related
hype++
you better have some bumped F/J's in [3] tho :)
TLDR: I agree with Elrick. You will get more orders and have more happy buyers if you include F and J with bars on them.
Even though I'm in the scoops crowd the arguments being put forward are starting to sway me into thinking that nibs should be part of a gmk set...
what have you done to me khan....
From now on, any further discussion regarding bars, scoops, nipples, dimples, boobs, whatever, will be considered disrespectful towards the GB, and hence violators will be persecuted and banned from participating in the GB.
I hope this helps :p
hype++
you better have some bumped F/J's in [3] tho :)TLDR: I agree with Elrick. You will get more orders and have more happy buyers if you include F and J with bars on them.Even though I'm in the scoops crowd the arguments being put forward are starting to sway me into thinking that nibs should be part of a gmk set...
what have you done to me khan....
You guys are all banned from participating in the GB...From now on, any further discussion regarding bars, scoops, nipples, dimples, boobs, whatever, will be considered disrespectful towards the GB, and hence violators will be persecuted and banned from participating in the GB.
I hope this helps :p
To anyone thinking of running a community group buy:
DO NOT INVOICE FOR GROUP BUY ITEMS AS GOODS. INVOICE AS A SERVICE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AubXWKq.png)
I'm sorry, but seriously for the very last time, F and J with bars/dashes will not be included, for numerous reasons, one being that they do not contribute to increasing compatibility for different layouts, and another reason being that the silent majority of the site prefers scoops that GMK/Cherry has always used on their keysets, not bars/dashes. I don't wish to touch upon this topic again, there are other threads for it.
If you enjoy the vibrant colours of the set as well as the compatibility of the keysets for different layouts, then please support this group buy. Having compatibility and nice coloured keys is way more important than having dashes on F and J.
The benefits of added compatibility being that, if one day, say you sell your TKL and buy a 1800 or 75% or Lightsaver V2, or even a HHKB/Viper, well guess what? You wouldn't have to sell the keyset, as you could still use them with your brand new keyboard.
If something so simple as not having bars/dashes on F and J is going to stop someone from joining the group buy (the fact that F and J keys already exist in the same legend and profile, so it would be redundant to include these identical keys), then I wish them luck elsewhere.
Sorry, I detect a flaw in logic.
In the scoops / bars thread the total count comes to 26 votes for scoops, 20 votes for bars. So, even though bar lovers are in the minority, it's still a significant number of people.
Most of the supporters of scoops stayed the hell away from that thread, because it's just a ridiculous amount of whining and nagging and I (speaking only for myself at this point) want nothing to do with that. So I think your numbers are really skewed. I suspect that a much higher % of bars fans frequented that thread than the % of scoops fans, thus skewing the perspective.
Most of the supporters of scoops stayed the hell away from that thread, because it's just a ridiculous amount of whining and nagging and I (speaking only for myself at this point) want nothing to do with that. So I think your numbers are really skewed. I suspect that a much higher % of bars fans frequented that thread than the % of scoops fans, thus skewing the perspective.
Yeah, I get tired of being the vocal "voice of dissent," and people accusing me of trying to sabotage group buys. So I've decided to cut back on the argumentative threads. I think most people probably feel the same way, and tend to stay out of those discussions. I tend to have a good feel toward what the vast majority actually want and/or need, so when I do speak up, it's with some authority.
Nobody* wants the bars/nubs.
*Actually, a very small number of people, which is not significant to the total number of people participating in a group buy.
Most of the supporters of scoops stayed the hell away from that thread, because it's just a ridiculous amount of whining and nagging and I (speaking only for myself at this point) want nothing to do with that. So I think your numbers are really skewed. I suspect that a much higher % of bars fans frequented that thread than the % of scoops fans, thus skewing the perspective.
Yeah, I get tired of being the vocal "voice of dissent," and people accusing me of trying to sabotage group buys. So I've decided to cut back on the argumentative threads. I think most people probably feel the same way, and tend to stay out of those discussions. I tend to have a good feel toward what the vast majority actually want and/or need, so when I do speak up, it's with some authority.
Nobody* wants the bars/nubs.
*Actually, a very small number of people, which is not significant to the total number of people participating in a group buy.
Hmm... I find this interesting. IMHO most of the bars posters were very clear, level headed and gave good reasons for prefering them and only posted their preference without participating in the drama, whereas it seemed to me it was largely scoop advocates who were becoming.... irrational.
Just to give a little update on the current status of SKIDATA+:
Paypal will be the method for collecting funds.
You might wanna check the obstacle in which why the RGBY GB is being refunded
it's paypal related
Just to give a little update on the current status of SKIDATA+:
Paypal will be the method for collecting funds.
You might wanna check the obstacle in which why the RGBY GB is being refunded
it's paypal related
Ghost and I have been communicating this entire time. Paypal will not be a problem for us, as I have figured out a workaround for it. Thanks to everyone for their continued support in these hard times, and I really appreciate it.
Sorry, but I detect a flaw in your logic. :P
Most of the supporters of X stayed the hell away from that thread, because it's just a ridiculous amount of whining and nagging and I (speaking only for myself at this point) want nothing to do with that. So I think your numbers are really skewed. I suspect that a much higher % of X fans frequented that thread than the % of Y fans, thus skewing the perspective. Personally I'll vote XY for president. Best of both worlds.
I don't think Massdrop will have any qualms running this after Charred. Hell, they've run a version of Dolch, what, four times?There are pros and cons of Massdrop.
Before CB I thought GH by itself would be fine. But maybe Massdrop is a considerable alternative because they'll more than likely succeed with GMK caps. I know people here hate Massdrop for understandable reasons, but let's be truthful: Would you as buyers like your set to succeed and you get your caps rather than having them fail and be disappointed? If Massdrop can deliver on that end, then why complain?
Yes, TA was a shipping disaster. But we've heard only from those who've complained. How many is that compared to all the sets that shipped? I wasn't part of that buy so I don't know. And it's not like Massdrop has to ship the items themselves. Sherry so far has shipped his own sets through Massdrop.
Due in part to the time it takes GMK to come back with updated mockups, I have taken the liberty of creating some myself.
I hope this helps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IgRCG85.jpg)
Due in part to the time it takes GMK to come back with updated mockups, I have taken the liberty of creating some myself.
I hope this helps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IgRCG85.jpg)
Due in part to the time it takes GMK to come back with updated mockups, I have taken the liberty of creating some myself.
I hope this helps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IgRCG85.jpg)
Due in part to the time it takes GMK to come back with updated mockups, I have taken the liberty of creating some myself.
I hope this helps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IgRCG85.jpg)
Haha! Beautiful! Cooking up a great set.
<are those Zealios I see at the bottom left? drool... very envious, can't wait for mine to arrive>
I really need to lighten up a little, I take most keycap-related stuff a bit too seriously nowadays. Life... a bit too stressed in most areas I guess.
Well if you want that... but in 60% form, I recommend you take a look here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74248.0). ;)Due in part to the time it takes GMK to come back with updated mockups, I have taken the liberty of creating some myself.Y-...
I hope this helps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IgRCG85.jpg)
You're recreating the original board?
will the groupbuy be organised by massdrop?
Currently testing the front end and back end of the GB platform.
Please no untested platforms...
No Massdrop, no bars, yes PayPal.thumb
No Massdrop, no bars, yes PayPal.
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This is exciting!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JddmhCj.jpg)
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Key set 3 is a viper??Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JddmhCj.jpg)
Key set 3 is a viper??Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JddmhCj.jpg)
:)
So excited for this to be happening!
No Massdrop, no bars, yes PayPal.
Keyset [3] is actually an off-white IKEA table! ;)
Keyset [3] is actually an off-white IKEA table! ;)
What does this mean? A Modifier Kit with white legend on orange? :D
No Massdrop, no bars, yes PayPal.
So just to clear this up, what kind of homing options are definitely happening?
So just to clear this up, what kind of homing options are definitely happening?
Scoops, scoops, and scoops.
So just to clear this up, what kind of homing options are definitely happening?
Scoops, scoops, and scoops.
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Is there any chance that a 1u windowed numlock could be added? or are these already set? interested either way! :thumb:
These look awesome Karura. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JddmhCj.jpg)
Nice, those look like those glow-in-the-dark keys that came with the Raptor K1 :thumb:
Ooops, idk how I missed that... thanks! Looking forward to this GB going live!Is there any chance that a 1u windowed numlock could be added? or are these already set? interested either way! :thumb:
Please look at the mockups posted, as you will find numerous windowed keys, including the 1u numlock. :thumb:
Now that classic beige is going to be refunded, I believe I will have the funds for this one. :)Why?
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
:)
Any concerns over conflict with SNES? Is this going to drop in next month before SNES or are you talking to Intelli to work out who goes first? I would quite like to pick up both sets and don't really want them to happen at the same time.
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
:)
Any concerns over conflict with SNES? Is this going to drop in next month before SNES or are you talking to Intelli to work out who goes first? I would quite like to pick up both sets and don't really want them to happen at the same time.
I haven't seen anything on GMK SNES lately.... where did Intelli say that it was going to be running in the next month?
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
:)
Any concerns over conflict with SNES? Is this going to drop in next month before SNES or are you talking to Intelli to work out who goes first? I would quite like to pick up both sets and don't really want them to happen at the same time.
I haven't seen anything on GMK SNES lately.... where did Intelli say that it was going to be running in the next month?
He said on the 4th of September:
"Going to wait for the whole TA episode to finish before starting this"
So, I'm guessing it's going to start some time in October
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
:)
Any concerns over conflict with SNES? Is this going to drop in next month before SNES or are you talking to Intelli to work out who goes first? I would quite like to pick up both sets and don't really want them to happen at the same time.
I haven't seen anything on GMK SNES lately.... where did Intelli say that it was going to be running in the next month?
He said on the 4th of September:
"Going to wait for the whole TA episode to finish before starting this"
So, I'm guessing it's going to start some time in October
I didn't think that the interest check had done anywhere - there have been no mockups or consultation on anything so far just the vote - I really hope it has a uniform bottom row profile this time...
I honestly don't think it would hit MOQ if it were launched in the next month given that there hasn't been much publicity and the extra cost of doing custom colors...
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
:)
Any concerns over conflict with SNES? Is this going to drop in next month before SNES or are you talking to Intelli to work out who goes first? I would quite like to pick up both sets and don't really want them to happen at the same time.
I haven't seen anything on GMK SNES lately.... where did Intelli say that it was going to be running in the next month?
He said on the 4th of September:
"Going to wait for the whole TA episode to finish before starting this"
So, I'm guessing it's going to start some time in October
I didn't think that the interest check had done anywhere - there have been no mockups or consultation on anything so far just the vote - I really hope it has a uniform bottom row profile this time...
I honestly don't think it would hit MOQ if it were launched in the next month given that there hasn't been much publicity and the extra cost of doing custom colors...
agree with you . i think GMK soware has more possibility than SNES after skidata complete
OK, since classic beige died im getting in on this.
Glad to have you on board! :thumb:
:)
Any concerns over conflict with SNES? Is this going to drop in next month before SNES or are you talking to Intelli to work out who goes first? I would quite like to pick up both sets and don't really want them to happen at the same time.
I haven't seen anything on GMK SNES lately.... where did Intelli say that it was going to be running in the next month?
He said on the 4th of September:
"Going to wait for the whole TA episode to finish before starting this"
So, I'm guessing it's going to start some time in October
I didn't think that the interest check had done anywhere - there have been no mockups or consultation on anything so far just the vote - I really hope it has a uniform bottom row profile this time...
I honestly don't think it would hit MOQ if it were launched in the next month given that there hasn't been much publicity and the extra cost of doing custom colors...
agree with you . i think GMK soware has more possibility than SNES after skidata complete
Just to give a little update on the current status of SKIDATA+:
Paypal will be the method for collecting funds.
Keyset [1] is final and can be expected in the GB.
Keyset [3] will be revealed in the GB stage.
Orange on Blue accent keys confirmed.
GB ordering will begin somewhere in late Sept, early Oct.
Yes. I feel the hype.This is the situation for me as well, stoked for the set tho :thumb: (hopefully I can afford it :P )
Though broke as I am, hoping for a late start.
GMK is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (or €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€).What about :- or ,- or £ ?
Prepare youranuswallet.
GMK is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (or €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€).What about :- or ,- or £ ?
Prepare youranuswallet.
YayGMK is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (or €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€).What about :- or ,- or £ ?
Prepare youranuswallet.
All will be converted to real currency. ;D
Thanks for the update Karura. I submitted my form but - how about adding a secondary poll to include them in the add-on pack, if there is not enough interest in the base set?
Due to the repeated requests of certain individuals, I will consider the possibility of including an additional 2 keys, F and J with homing dashes/bars.
However, it will increase the costs of an already huge keyset, and I would rather not have that happen if there is not enough support.
I look forward to seeing the votes and results! Thanks
Vote here: http://goo.gl/forms/hxlp6GTsPH
Due to the repeated requests of certain individuals, I will consider the possibility of including an additional 2 keys, F and J with homing dashes/bars.
However, it will increase the costs of an already huge keyset, and I would rather not have that happen if there is not enough support.
I look forward to seeing the votes and results! Thanks
Vote here: http://goo.gl/forms/hxlp6GTsPH
Aww, snap! Gonna vote for a set, even if it's a slim chance.
Due to the repeated requests of certain individuals, I will consider the possibility of including an additional 2 keys, F and J with homing dashes/bars.
However, it will increase the costs of an already huge keyset, and I would rather not have that happen if there is not enough support.
I look forward to seeing the votes and results! Thanks
Vote here: http://goo.gl/forms/hxlp6GTsPH
Aww, snap! Gonna vote for a set, even if it's a slim chance.
Nice avatar! Mega-crash? Crash-man? Hehe
Also, updates, GB is ready to start, very soon!
The platform is looking really good, and it should be very easy to order and navigate in ;)
Also, updates, GB is ready to start, very soon!
The platform is looking really good, and it should be very easy to order and navigate in ;)
You have my money :)
Thanks for organising this Karura. Total dream set for me.
Really hope this one gets MQO.
I really appreciate the community support and appreciation, as it encourages me to continue to do my best and give it my all.
To be absolutely clear, I've been working on making SKIDATA+ the very best GMK keyset to have ever been produced, both in quality and design.
I've been in the talks with GMK regarding production and other quality concerns, to ensure that we will get nothing but the very best. As good as the stuff from two decades ago.
It surprises me that GMK mentioned that no other GB runner has brought up the topic with them. Nevertheless, that is not the case with SKIDATA+, as we will only get the best. ;)
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Is that set 3 or have you just expanded set 2?OP still has [3] as "TBA", so i'm guessing that's an expanded set 2.
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Seeing how the last group buys went, I hope that this will be run directly on massdrop
Are those blues in set 2?
Last update before the GB goes live:Sweet...
The blue keys will be part of the [2] Colour Pack (Previously called the Reverse-Skidata Modpack).
[3] SKIDATA+ Relegendables Pack will be limited in numbers, due to the fact I'm paying for it out of pocket, to have the Relegendables keycaps custom made, since they are not offered. It will be offered to those who purchase a base set.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work so we can see this GB go live ASAP. :thumb:
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R5 keys are such a pain when you mix winkeyless and winkey. :(
R5 keys are such a pain when you mix winkeyless and winkey. :(
Don't mix them. They are not meant to be mixed, but their profile rocks, the have great ergonomics.
R5 keys are such a pain when you mix winkeyless and winkey. :(
Don't mix them. They are not meant to be mixed, but their profile rocks, the have great ergonomics.
I find that mixing profiles for some keys is actually good, for example in a 75% layout or a lightsaver/RS96, If the arrows are in R5 it can help a lot to not get mistanken and press any other key by accident when navigating with the arrow keys.
So am I the only one who is bummed there's not a 1.25u "Fn", "Function", "Code", or blank for all the Poker owners out there?
So am I the only one who is bummed there's not a 1.25u "Fn", "Function", "Code", or blank for all the Poker owners out there?
What about using the menu key for that?
So am I the only one who is bummed there's not a 1.25u "Fn", "Function", "Code", or blank for all the Poker owners out there?
What about using the menu key for that?
I've considered that, but on some of my layouts I use the menu key as the menu key. So to use it as the Fn key is a little annoying (same key does one thing on one board, and other thing on another board). Maybe it would be like using the Caps Lock key as control but it still says Caps Lock? Even a blank would be better than using the menu key IMHO. But a 1.25x Fn, Code, or Function would be baller, especially if it was orange on blue. But maybe it's just me. That's why I was asking.
Everything has been finalized, no further changes will be made.
Any revisions at this point will delay this by at least a week or two, and we'll end up with the same fate as Classic Beige. It's time to go. FULL SPEED AHEAD!
Timing is a very delicate issue.
GB will be up very soon, you'll know when it goes live.
GB will be up very soon, you'll know when it goes live.
Everything has been finalized, no further changes will be made.
Any revisions at this point will delay this by at least a week or two, and we'll end up with the same fate as Classic Beige. It's time to go. FULL SPEED AHEAD!
Timing is a very delicate issue.
Not sure what does this mean... You mean 60% non standard bottom row?Hmm, might be interested if there's 60% support.
Hello sir what I meant is most of the 60s that I know about use 1.25x bottom rows with one of them usually a Fn (in place of the menu key typically). So adding a 1.25 blank or Fn or some logo or something would support all of those boards.
This will be covered, as Fn is already included in the HHKB support keys.
The current layout choices fully support 60%.
What you are requesting for is a redundant 1.25 key that says "Fn" when there is already a Menu key that serves as the function (I understand you acknowledge this).
It is common practice to use the Menu key and Winkey on poker keyboards for the Fn and Pn keys.
Keyboards have always had Menu keys instead of Fn, and as much as I'd like to include every single key, the only keys that would benefit every buyer would be keys that 1) without legends to represent it, 2) without the proper size, 3) without the proper profile.
Now I realize you might argue that 1) is false and Fn != Menu key, but for argument's sake, let's say everyone gets their favourite legends for 1.25u keys added in, that is:
2x Win95 keys
2x Win7 keys
2x Control keys
2x Fn keys...
I hope you understand where I'm going with this. With all due respect, it's really too much to ask for everyone to pay extra for a completely redundant key when it exists. I'd much rather add F and J either homing dashes, because those keys in that specific profile don't exist at all. It's a matter of priorities, and I really wish I could add every key for everyone.
The current layout choices fully support 60%.
To define support: you are able to represent every single key used in the respective layout with a key that has the proper size and profile, and a legend that would make sense.
What you are requesting for is a redundant 1.25 key that says "Fn" when there is already a Menu key that serves as the function (I understand you acknowledge this).
Please keep in mind we're not dealing with SP here, we're having really high quality double shots made from Cherry's original mold. Cherry legends are only going to be considered, because that's the nature of how these keys are.
It is common practice to use the Menu key and Winkey on poker keyboards for the Fn and Pn keys.
Keyboards have always had Menu keys instead of Fn, and as much as I'd like to include every single key, the only keys that would benefit every buyer would be keys that 1) without legends to represent it, 2) without the proper size, 3) without the proper profile.
Now I realize you might argue that 1) is false and Fn != Menu key, but for argument's sake, let's say everyone gets their favourite legends for 1.25u keys added in, that is:
2x Win95 keys
2x Win7 keys
2x Control keys
2x Fn keys...
I hope you understand where I'm going with this. With all due respect, it's really too much to ask for everyone to pay extra for a completely redundant key when it exists. I'd much rather add F and J with homing dashes, because those keys in that specific profile don't exist at all. It wouldn't be redundant like yet another 1.25 Fn key. It's a matter of priorities, and I really wish I could add every key for everyone.
If there absolutely wasn't another way to represent 1.25 Fn in the same profile, I would have definitely considered it.
The current layout choices fully support 60%.
What you are requesting for is a redundant 1.25 key that says "Fn" when there is already a Menu key that serves as the function (I understand you acknowledge this).
It is common practice to use the Menu key and Winkey on poker keyboards for the Fn and Pn keys.
Keyboards have always had Menu keys instead of Fn, and as much as I'd like to include every single key, the only keys that would benefit every buyer would be keys that 1) without legends to represent it, 2) without the proper size, 3) without the proper profile.
Now I realize you might argue that 1) is false and Fn != Menu key, but for argument's sake, let's say everyone gets their favourite legends for 1.25u keys added in, that is:
2x Win95 keys
2x Win7 keys
2x Control keys
2x Fn keys...
I hope you understand where I'm going with this. With all due respect, it's really too much to ask for everyone to pay extra for a completely redundant key when it exists. I'd much rather add F and J either homing dashes, because those keys in that specific profile don't exist at all. It's a matter of priorities, and I really wish I could add every key for everyone.
Pls add a space bar with a hotdog on it for me kthnx
Hotdog spacebars will be available in an "orange chili dog" variant to be included with the colour pack to spice things up. ;) (jk)We're all wieners here.
That joke was as corny as corn, dog.Hotdog spacebars will be available in an "orange chili dog" variant to be included with the colour pack to spice things up. ;) (jk)We're all wieners here.
The current layout choices fully support 60%.
To define support: you are able to represent every single key used in the respective layout with a key that has the proper size and profile, and a legend that would make sense.
What you are requesting for is a redundant 1.25 key that says "Fn" when there is already a Menu key that serves as the function (I understand you acknowledge this).
Please keep in mind we're not dealing with SP here, we're having really high quality double shots made from Cherry's original mold. Cherry legends are only going to be considered, because that's the nature of how these keys are.
It is common practice to use the Menu key and Winkey on poker keyboards for the Fn and Pn keys.
Keyboards have always had Menu keys instead of Fn, and as much as I'd like to include every single key, the only keys that would benefit every buyer would be keys that 1) without legends to represent it, 2) without the proper size, 3) without the proper profile.
Now I realize you might argue that 1) is false and Fn != Menu key, but for argument's sake, let's say everyone gets their favourite legends for 1.25u keys added in, that is:
2x Win95 keys
2x Win7 keys
2x Control keys
2x Fn keys...
I hope you understand where I'm going with this. With all due respect, it's really too much to ask for everyone to pay extra for a completely redundant key when it exists. I'd much rather add F and J with homing dashes, because those keys in that specific profile don't exist at all. It wouldn't be redundant like yet another 1.25 Fn key. It's a matter of priorities, and I really wish I could add every key for everyone.
If there absolutely wasn't another way to represent 1.25 Fn in the same profile, I would have definitely considered it.
OK.The current layout choices fully support 60%.
What you are requesting for is a redundant 1.25 key that says "Fn" when there is already a Menu key that serves as the function (I understand you acknowledge this).
It is common practice to use the Menu key and Winkey on poker keyboards for the Fn and Pn keys.
Keyboards have always had Menu keys instead of Fn, and as much as I'd like to include every single key, the only keys that would benefit every buyer would be keys that 1) without legends to represent it, 2) without the proper size, 3) without the proper profile.
Now I realize you might argue that 1) is false and Fn != Menu key, but for argument's sake, let's say everyone gets their favourite legends for 1.25u keys added in, that is:
2x Win95 keys
2x Win7 keys
2x Control keys
2x Fn keys...
I hope you understand where I'm going with this. With all due respect, it's really too much to ask for everyone to pay extra for a completely redundant key when it exists. I'd much rather add F and J either homing dashes, because those keys in that specific profile don't exist at all. It's a matter of priorities, and I really wish I could add every key for everyone.
Pls add a space bar with a hotdog on it for me kthnx
Thank you for your input.
Due to ImpedingxDoom's request for a hotdog spacebar, I have gotten in touch with GMK to request for such a design to be pad-printed, and will delay the group buy for 2 weeks. Hopefully this isn't a huge deal!
Check mockups pls.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wMKlpSe.png)
Due to ImpedingxDoom's request for a hotdog spacebar, I have gotten in touch with GMK to request for such a design to be pad-printed, and will delay the group buy for 2 weeks. Hopefully this isn't a huge deal!Some of us prefer mustard and relish.
Check mockups pls.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wMKlpSe.png)
Is there an official launch date for the GB?
GB will be up very soon, you'll know when it goes live.
Is there an official launch date for the GB?
My aunts, uncles, 1st 2nd and 3rd cousins, wife & in-laws, neighbors, and my grandma are all lined up to order the SkiData+ GMK deliciousness.
Let's do this.
My aunts, uncles, 1st 2nd and 3rd cousins, wife & in-laws, neighbors, and my grandma are all lined up to order the SkiData+ GMK deliciousness.
Let's do this.
My aunts, uncles, 1st 2nd and 3rd cousins, wife & in-laws, neighbors, and my grandma are all lined up to order the SkiData+ GMK deliciousness.
Let's do this.
What about all your future descendants that will need a set? I'm imagining you will have productive offspring :p
My aunts, uncles, 1st 2nd and 3rd cousins, wife & in-laws, neighbors, and my grandma are all lined up to order the SkiData+ GMK deliciousness.
Let's do this.
What about all your future descendants that will need a set? I'm imagining you will have productive offspring :p
There will be enough sets in the family that they can be passed down like heirlooms. :p
My aunts, uncles, 1st 2nd and 3rd cousins, wife & in-laws, neighbors, and my grandma are all lined up to order the SkiData+ GMK deliciousness.
Let's do this.
What about all your future descendants that will need a set? I'm imagining you will have productive offspring :p
There will be enough sets in the family that they can be passed down like heirlooms. :p
Every time I get a package in the mail the wife and kids are like "OMG, MORE keycaps Dad?" They don't understand that it's their inheritance.HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
This has been a monster 11-page IC. Hopefully that means the GB will have a minimum of the usual whiny drama. You know the kind of stuff in talking about:
"Wow {GB leader's name}, this set is incredible. It is easily the most impeccably-designed set I've ever seen, and GMK quality is second to none!
"Unfortunately you did not include the 17 special keys I need for my {X} custom, so I will have to sit this one out. It's heartbreaking though, because this is otherwise the perfect set for me, and many others I'm sure."
* sits there mashing F5 waiting hopelessly for a contrite reply from the GB leader that will never come
I actually like these posts. Usually only the GB leader can see who has ordered. "Ordered!" helps communicate to everyone else that folks are joining the buy, which helps build hype. I like hype. Likewise, "Paid!" indicates that yes, you are the only one dragging your feet to pay that invoice. I hate late payers.This has been a monster 11-page IC. Hopefully that means the GB will have a minimum of the usual whiny drama. You know the kind of stuff in talking about:
"Wow {GB leader's name}, this set is incredible. It is easily the most impeccably-designed set I've ever seen, and GMK quality is second to none!
"Unfortunately you did not include the 17 special keys I need for my {X} custom, so I will have to sit this one out. It's heartbreaking though, because this is otherwise the perfect set for me, and many others I'm sure."
* sits there mashing F5 waiting hopelessly for a contrite reply from the GB leader that will never come
What about "Submitted!" or, when the time comes, "Paid! :thumb:"?
I actually like these posts. Usually only the GB leader can see who has ordered. "Ordered!" helps communicate to everyone else that folks are joining the buy, which helps build hype. I like hype. Likewise, "Paid!" indicates that yes, you are the only one dragging your feet to pay that invoice. I hate late payers.This has been a monster 11-page IC. Hopefully that means the GB will have a minimum of the usual whiny drama. You know the kind of stuff in talking about:
"Wow {GB leader's name}, this set is incredible. It is easily the most impeccably-designed set I've ever seen, and GMK quality is second to none!
"Unfortunately you did not include the 17 special keys I need for my {X} custom, so I will have to sit this one out. It's heartbreaking though, because this is otherwise the perfect set for me, and many others I'm sure."
* sits there mashing F5 waiting hopelessly for a contrite reply from the GB leader that will never come
What about "Submitted!" or, when the time comes, "Paid! :thumb:"?
I can see, though, how those kinds of posts might trigger the same gag reflex as "first post!"
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
Waiting for update :)))))Same, I've been excited since I woke up!
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.I don't have a negative impact toward them. They just seem inevitable.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.I don't have a negative impact toward them. They just seem inevitable.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
I get why they're useful for the GB leader.
When you have Tapatalk and see a notification, you get all excited until you see its just a "Paid" comment; no juicy GB info. :(
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.I don't have a negative impact toward them. They just seem inevitable.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
I get why they're useful for the GB leader.
When you have Tapatalk and see a notification, you get all excited until you see its just a "Paid" comment; no juicy GB info. :(
This is why you should turn off tapatalk notifications
Hell I would turn off unwatch most if not all GB threads if I could just see the OP's posts only
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.I don't have a negative impact toward them. They just seem inevitable.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
I get why they're useful for the GB leader.
When you have Tapatalk and see a notification, you get all excited until you see its just a "Paid" comment; no juicy GB info. :(
This is why you should turn off tapatalk notifications
Hell I would turn off unwatch most if not all GB threads if I could just see the OP's posts only
Turn off thread notifications, but keep quote notifications. :)
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.I don't have a negative impact toward them. They just seem inevitable.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
I get why they're useful for the GB leader.
When you have Tapatalk and see a notification, you get all excited until you see its just a "Paid" comment; no juicy GB info. :(
This is why you should turn off tapatalk notifications
Hell I would turn off unwatch most if not all GB threads if I could just see the OP's posts only
Turn off thread notifications, but keep quote notifications. :)
If the organizer doesnt give us a way to communicate who has joined then I do so myself, I think that's fair. I hadn't, until now, even considered the negative reaction some people might have to it. The internet is such a terrible place, putting disdain in our hearts for such arbitrary things.
Though I definitely do see it now. @.@
I read this post.
Has the GB gone live yet 0_0? Have been waiting for quite a bit! Sorry if I missed the post =P
Has the GB gone live yet 0_0? Have been waiting for quite a bit! Sorry if I missed the post =P
Nothing yet! Karura will let us know asap!
Will be posting later this evening with a more detailed response regarding our current situation :)Me want GB #sadkittyface
Thanks for all the support and interest! :thumb:
Was a decision ever made regarding barred F/J caps using the data from the poll?
Any suggestions of vendor support at this point? We all know GMK MOQ can be hard to reach otherwise...
I love the positivity, will spread this skidata love in my country keyboard communityAny suggestions of vendor support at this point? We all know GMK MOQ can be hard to reach otherwise...
No. Don't worry about MOQ, it is not a problem.
SKIDATA+ is a 100% community run and supported GB, and there is no reason to hand it over to a vendor. I've said this many times now.
Planning for this GB started on 10/10/14 and has just passed the one year mark roughly two weeks ago.
It might come as a surprise since all the planning and coordinating is behind the scenes, but SKIDATA+ has only made it this far due to the support and efforts of the community. There are over 10 people I can list in an instant who are actively contributing to making SKIDATA+ a reality, and I keep in contact with these community members on a daily basis.
We as a community have always been able to support each other and make things happen, and that isn't going to change. Together, we will make this happen. Don't lose faith my friend. :thumb:
I love the positivity, will spread this skidata love in my country keyboard community
Keep up the good work, will start spreading the love tonight
Any suggestions of vendor support at this point? We all know GMK MOQ can be hard to reach otherwise...
No. Don't worry about MOQ, it is not a problem.
SKIDATA+ is a 100% community run and supported GB, and there is no reason to hand it over to a vendor.:
Any suggestions of vendor support at this point? We all know GMK MOQ can be hard to reach otherwise...
No. Don't worry about MOQ, it is not a problem.
SKIDATA+ is a 100% community run and supported GB, and there is no reason to hand it over to a vendor.:
I do believe he meant seeing if any vendors, i.e. binge or mechanicalkeyboards.com might want to buy sets to resale to help boost MOQ.
This is such a great keyset for Halloween. ^-^
This is such a great keyset for Halloween. ^-^
Will provably arrive in time for next halloween :^)
On a more serious note, I'm probably out, unfortunately. Wallet has been hacked too hard this year already.
Are F and J gonna have a homing bump or a deep dish?
Was a decision ever made regarding barred F/J caps using the data from the poll?
Good question, majority over 70% prefer scoops, and no additional homing keys will be added.
It goes to show that the silent majority is not-so-silent when it comes to actually paying for it.
I did try to actually include yet another pack. I contacted GMK to enquire about additional homing options, as I know some people would be interested in different homing options to try out, but they did not have anything else, and therefore it wouldn't have worked to have yet another homing "pack" (I was hoping GMK would have scooped nipples, scooped bars, etc, for a total of 6-8 keys in the pack) when it's just two keys.
If you read a few posts above you'll see:I have skills for missing posts. Thanks.
Wouldn't it be better to take orders now (soon), and put in the order sooner, rather than later?
Wouldn't it be better to take orders now (soon), and put in the order sooner, rather than later?
It seems to me the longer an interest check drags on the worse it is for the group buy but its clear the OP doesn't need/want anyone's input.
Wouldn't it be better to take orders now (soon), and put in the order sooner, rather than later?
It seems to me the longer an interest check drags on the worse it is for the group buy but its clear the OP doesn't need/want anyone's input.
Someone is extra salty this morning. :-*
Wouldn't it be better to take orders now (soon), and put in the order sooner, rather than later?
It seems to me the longer an interest check drags on the worse it is for the group buy but its clear the OP doesn't need/want anyone's input.
Someone is extra salty this morning. :-*
I'm not salty at all it is just really sad when people ignore good advice and their group buys fail.
Wouldn't it be better to take orders now (soon), and put in the order sooner, rather than later?
It seems to me the longer an interest check drags on the worse it is for the group buy but its clear the OP doesn't need/want anyone's input.
Someone is extra salty this morning. :-*
I'm not salty at all it is just really sad when people ignore good advice and their group buys fail.
There are complications with payment right now that it would be irresponsible to take payment. I take it that you mean well, but it is really not a matter that is as simple it seems, and believe me, there is no one else that wants this GB to start and succeed more than me. Thank you for your concerns though, I know you mean well.
There's no reason to fear missing MOQ; we will pull thru and make it happen, I have faith in the community. ;)
I've been keeping up with posts, but I can't recall - did we ever hear a response from GMK on the light bleed concerns?
I would like to announce that SKIDATA+ will be partnering up with a very reputable vendor, with extensive pre-ordering experience and impeccable track record, and most importantly, one of our own ^-^ (read: not MassDrop).That means Bingecap, CtrlAlt or Zeal, unless I'm forgetting someone. I'm ok with all of them. :D
For those who are reading the thread and joining us for the first time: Welcome to SKIDATA+! :thumb:thumb
I would like to offer some insight into the current state of the GB, as well as make a BIG announcement.
As previously observed in previous GBs, such as GMK RGBYK (btw, kudos to ghostjuggernaut and radiokillah for making it happen despite the situation), PayPal has introduced a new policy where they will flag any account they deem as suspicious, suspicious meaning any large influx of funds being received by the account, regardless of whether it's a new or older PayPal account.
As a result of being flagged, PayPal places restrictions/limitations on any and all funds in the account from being withdrawn, unless the account holder provides proof via "shipped tracking" updates, but that is literally impossible and spells death for the GB, as we are only able to pay GMK to produce keycaps by withdrawing the GB payments from the account, which cannot be unlocked unless we ship out the caps. It's a total catch-22.
That said, have no fear my friends. I would like to announce that SKIDATA+ will be partnering up with a very reputable vendor, with extensive pre-ordering experience and impeccable track record, and most importantly, one of our own ^-^ (read: not MassDrop).
This is crucial to the payment step, as we do not want to risk having our funds frozen in a PayPal account, and PayPal has assured me that our funds would definitely be frozen if we took on the GB with a new account.
So I earnestly ask everyone to please be patient, as we are currently ironing out the payment details, and making sure that there will not be any problems when it comes to GB payment collection time.
I understand there is a lot of anticipation, excitement, anxiety, buzz, hype, and rustlin' when it comes to GBs, but rest assured, Karura is here to put in the effort and make sure we will have nothing but a successful run. :thumb:
Please have some patience and faith in the group buy. It's really all that I ask from you guys, as I've done all the work that's required to make this happen.
I understand people are concerned about meeting MOQ, and I anticipate that we MIGHT have some issues with meeting it, but I'm sure the community will somehow work it out and meet the MOQ, like we always have for well-designed sets.
Feel free to post if you have any more questions, but really, settle down people, I'm literally doing the best I can to ensure that not only will we get the BEST quality GMK has to offer in years (GMK has assured me that they understand our concerns for a high quality set, and make it as good as OG Cherry sets), the most complete layout compatibility that has ever been offered for a GMK GB (ANSI, ISO, 60%, HHKB, 1800%, LightSaver), and absolutely no problems when it comes to payment via PayPal.
Hope this helps answer some questions. ^-^
That said, have no fear my friends. I would like to announce that SKIDATA+ will be partnering up with a very reputable vendor, with extensive pre-ordering experience and impeccable track record, and most importantly, one of our own ^-^ (read: not MassDrop).
That said, have no fear my friends. I would like to announce that SKIDATA+ will be partnering up with a very reputable vendor, with extensive pre-ordering experience and impeccable track record, and most importantly, one of our own ^-^ (read: not MassDrop).
I think I know who this is! ;)
Thanks, Karura. I know it can be difficult to manage people's expectations when doing a GB like this, especially when it involves some behind-the-scenes arrangements that you're not at liberty to disclose. But it's obvious to me that you care deeply about this project and you're doing your best to see it through.
This is going to be an amazing keyset, and worth every minute of waiting.
I would like to announce that SKIDATA+ will be partnering up with a very reputable vendor, with extensive pre-ordering experience and impeccable track record, and most importantly, one of our own ^-^ (read: not MassDrop).That means Bingecap, CtrlAlt or Zeal, unless I'm forgetting someone. I'm ok with all of them. :D
For those who are reading the thread and joining us for the first time: Welcome to SKIDATA+! :thumb:
I would like to offer some insight into the current state of the GB, as well as make a BIG announcement.
As observed in previous GBs, such as GMK RGBYK (btw, kudos to ghostjuggernaut and radiokillah for making it happen despite the situation), PayPal has introduced a new policy where they will flag any account they deem as suspicious, suspicious meaning any large influx of funds being received by the account, regardless of whether it's a new or older PayPal account.
As a result of being flagged, PayPal places restrictions/limitations on any and all funds in the account from being withdrawn, unless the account holder provides proof via "shipped tracking" updates, but that is literally impossible and spells death for the GB, as we are only able to pay GMK to produce keycaps by withdrawing the GB payments from the account, which cannot be unlocked unless we ship out the caps. It's a total catch-22.
That said, have no fear my friends. I would like to announce that SKIDATA+ will be partnering up with a very reputable vendor, with extensive pre-ordering experience and impeccable track record, and most importantly, one of our own ^-^ (read: not MassDrop).
This is crucial to the payment step, as we do not want to risk having our funds frozen in a PayPal account, and PayPal has assured me that our funds would definitely be frozen if we took on the GB with a new account.
So I earnestly ask everyone to please be patient, as we are currently ironing out the payment details, and making sure that there will not be any problems when it comes to GB payment collection time.
I understand there is a lot of anticipation, excitement, anxiety, buzz, hype, and rustlin' when it comes to GBs, but rest assured, Karura is here to put in the effort and make sure we will have nothing but a successful run. :thumb:
Please have some patience and faith in the group buy. It's really all that I ask from you guys, as I've done all the work that's required to make this happen.
I understand people are concerned about meeting MOQ, and I anticipate that we MIGHT have some issues with meeting it, but I'm sure the community will somehow work it out and meet the MOQ, like we always have for well-designed sets.
Feel free to post if you have any more questions, but really, settle down people, I'm literally doing the best I can to ensure that we get nothing but the BEST quality GMK has to offer in years (GMK has assured me that they understand our concerns for a high quality set, and will make it as good as OG Cherry sets), the most complete layout compatibility that has ever been offered for a GMK GB (ANSI, ISO, 60%, HHKB, 1800%, LightSaver), and absolutely no problems when it comes to payment via PayPal.
Hope this helps answer some questions. ^-^
(ANSI, ISO, 60%, HHKB, 1800%, LightSaver)1800%?! That's a lot of keycaps.
(ANSI, ISO, 60%, HHKB, 1800%, LightSaver)1800%?! That's a lot of keycaps.
(ANSI, ISO, 60%, HHKB, 1800%, LightSaver)1800%?! That's a lot of keycaps.
avoiding paypal is the greatest move.. my pp account and funds in it are still locked up after one month... :-\They're still using PayPal.
And not to derail the thread, but especially for international people Paypal is still the best option.avoiding paypal is the greatest move.. my pp account and funds in it are still locked up after one month... :-\They're still using PayPal.
And not to derail the thread, but especially for international people Paypal is still the best option.avoiding paypal is the greatest move.. my pp account and funds in it are still locked up after one month... :-\They're still using PayPal.
Thx for the updates and your hard work Karura
I can assure that this gonna be an epic GB, would be even better if there is an artisan keycap to go with it, maybe raffle system with the purchase of the set?
Looks like we'll be ahead of schedule; SKIDATA+ will open just in time for the Halloween festivities. ;)
Stay tuned for an announcement later today. :thumb:
Looks like we'll be ahead of schedule; SKIDATA+ will open just in time for the Halloween festivities. ;)
Stay tuned for an announcement later today. :thumb:
Looks like we'll be ahead of schedule; SKIDATA+ will open just in time for the Halloween festivities. ;)
Stay tuned for an announcement later today. :thumb:
Looks like we'll be ahead of schedule; SKIDATA+ will open just in time for the Halloween festivities. ;)
Stay tuned for an announcement later today. :thumb:
Looks like we'll be ahead of schedule; SKIDATA+ will open just in time for the Halloween festivities. ;)
Stay tuned for an announcement later today. :thumb:
The hype continues! Time to make the final call... Now I'm wishing I didn't already have Charred Orange. :))
The hype continues! Time to make the final call... Now I'm wishing I didn't already have Charred Orange. :))Last time Karura had an evening update it didn't get posted until the next day.
The hype continues! Time to make the final call... Now I'm wishing I didn't already have Charred Orange. :))
The hype continues! Time to make the final call... Now I'm wishing I didn't already have Charred Orange. :))Last time Karura had an evening update it didn't get posted until the next day.
Gonna wake up early and keep my eyes peeled for an announcement.
GB is live and waiting approval. :thumb: