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Poker II review
« on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:43:52 »
First, I just want to mention that this will be more geared towards the crowd that are already familiar with mechanical keyboards, or already own the original poker. There won’t be much of an intro or basic feel of the keyboard, since you can find this general info elsewhere. I’m mainly just focusing on new improvements on this Poker II. 


Basic stuff
This is a compact keyboard with cherry MX switches with only the main keys (no function row, right side keys, or numpad). Layout is English ANSI, same key sizes as the original poker. One huge improvement is that it’s programmable, so you can remap keys to any location. Meaning you can have hardware Colmak or Dvorak, or any other custom layout without depending on the OS or software to remap. It weighs 1lb 5oz, a tad heavier than the original poker because it now has a metal plate. The plate prevents any type of flexing, which was a huge complaint on the first poker. The plate also changes the bottom-out noise, making it more loud and “sharp” compared to PCB-mounted switches in the first poker.


PCB
The PCB was redone from the ground up. No parts of this resembles the original poker, except for the switch locations. Even the traces are mapped differently. The main controller is a Nuvoton rather than a Holtek found on most modern mechanical keyboards, including the original poker. The USB connector and DIP switches from the old poker were through-hole, but all components are now 100% SMD except for the optional LEDs.

What I DON’T like about this new PCB is that they use the glass type diodes, which are easier to crack than the other diodes. There is a resistor for every switch, which suggests that you can install your own LEDs. However, the LED holes are filled with solder so you need to remove the solder first. PCB says it’s RoHS, but I’m not sure how believable this is because the switch solder joints are just so dam shiny to be lead-free.


Everything included. It’s nice that a wire keycap puller was included. Most keyboards do not include this, and even if they do, it’s the el cheapo plastic clip type. Thick RGB modifiers are also included, which is a huge bonus. Although, I preferred the blue and green to be darker.



Black steel plate. I’m not sure if it’s powder-coated or just painted. No cutout design for switch removal. It still uses Cherry stabilizers, however now they’re plate-mounted instead of PCB-mounted seen in the old poker. All switches are rotated upside down, so that the LED positions can be on top for caps with see-through legends.



There are two LEDs mounted on the PCB for the spacebar, compared to just one LED on the spacebar switch from the old poker. You can also see there is a new mounting hold in the middle of the G and H key, which is not present in the old poker. The case has a standoff in this location.



The main SMD are here (there’s another small grouping of components just to the left, not shown). It uses a smaller Nuvoton controller with finer pin-pitch. USB SMD connector here.



Every switch looks like this. Very shiny solder joints. Different types of SMD diodes (redish components), with resistors just to the left. These are for the individual switch LEDs, although I don’t understand why the LED holes would be filled with solder. Slight flux marks around every switch.



The function layer is printed on the side of the caps. Programming mode is the on CTRL, and you can also see volume buttons on the N M and “<” keys, not found on the original poker



Arrow cluster has been moved to the WASD, compared to bottom right location in the old poker.



Keycaps are thick PBT, which is about as good as you can ask for. However, the legends are pad-printed instead of dyesub or double-shot, which means they can wear off faster. I’m not a fan of the font choice or centered location either. Caps are about 1.5mm thick. The caps on the right are PBT caps from a Pure (same as a poker I) for comparison, and you can see they’re a bit thinner, ever so slightly darker, and a tad more textured on the top surface.



Comparison of thickness between typical PBT caps, thick PBT from this poker, and imsto’s thick grey PBT (left to right)



One complaint about all the large keys is that I can see the stems slightly sticking out from the top surface, or very obvious outlines of them (another pic here)



New metallic label on the bottom of the case. All the words are laser-etched. There is a lame attempt for a marketing slogan in the middle



Here’s the biggest turnoff. I don’t need a keyboard to tell me what to enjoy. This doesn’t even make sense to put on a keyboard.


 
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:06:24 »
Maybe it just wants you to enjoy the feeling you have at the exact moment you decide to sit down at your computer. Don't take it so literally :P.

Seriously though, great review. I really liked how the review was concise and had a lot of information. Plus it will clear up a lot of questions that people will have concerning the Poker 2. Will you be posting a YouTube review as well? Or is this a transcript from a review you've already taped?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:07:18 »
You are my hero. EXCELLENT review, with precisely the information I was looking for. Thank you!

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:14:19 »
Oh and I thought this might be nice, so I hope you dont mind this post. I've linked some of the more basic info below so that this review will have all this lovely Poker 2 info in one spot. :D

Poker 2 early press release info

Some Q&A (answers from qtan) in qtan's GB IC thread

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:44:46 »
^ Thanks for the links. I don't mind at all, since I didn't care to post a lot of general info.


Will you be posting a YouTube review as well? Or is this a transcript from a review you've already taped?

I did record a short clip when uboxing it, but probably won't edit and upload it. Not special enough, and it's basically just a repeat of everything in here.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:46:26 »
Furthermore, just because CPTBadAss needs it for his Simple Answers thread, what's it weigh?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:47:38 »
What do you think about the pokers programming ability and how it may compare to the gh60?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:48:24 »
Furthermore, just because CPTBadAss needs it for his Simple Answers thread, what's it weigh?

He said in the OP that it weights 1 lb, 5 oz. I already edited my post in the Questions thread to reflect that info :D

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:48:45 »
Great review.

Might consider getting one now =P

I think having a replacement spacebar would solve that issue lol. Yeah I'm also not a fan of having uneccesary text on there. but they are just caps, no biggie

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:49:44 »
Furthermore, just because CPTBadAss needs it for his Simple Answers thread, what's it weigh?

He said in the OP that it weights 1 lb, 5 oz. I already edited my post in the Questions thread to reflect that info :D
Shhhhh... he didn't say that! :|

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 00:02:54 »
I think having a replacement spacebar would solve that issue lol. Yeah I'm also not a fan of having uneccesary text on there. but they are just caps, no biggie

I can actually feel the text bulging up, so I think you can just scratch it off, and if that doesn't work, just sand it.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 00:07:18 »
Nice review! If I didn't have a couple GH60s on the way, I'd order one.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 00:16:02 »
Going through the review a second time, i didnt realise that the switches were mounted upside down.

They should have left the back-spec plate blank for you to engrave your own slogan lol

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 01:10:41 »
I love the details in your review WFD!

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 02:25:38 »
Thank you for the nice review, as I was reading there was a knock on the door with a delivery for me :) Ordered mine from uk ebay last Thursday, super fast delivery as there was a bank holiday here on Monday too. Off to have a play..

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 03:08:41 »
Good job WFD.

Not sure about the shiny solders.
I can see the shiny solder on the empty pads for my motherboards.
There is no doubt in my mind that the motherboards are ROHS.

The LED on the CapsLock is also a feature on the Pure. Maybe Vortex just redesigned the PURE PCB?

Btw, what do you call those dimples that fills the empty spaces the PCB?
Do you know what are they for?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 03:27:28 »
well the poker x does have volume buttons too, mute on fn + v, up vol on fn + b, down vol on fn + n
i memorized the poker layout and prefer the dedicated arrow key lock that i don't believe is possible with the poker 2
other than that it's pretty good :)

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 05:13:32 »
Nice review.
Lol at the "enjoy your feeling" & "cheering up thingy" -_-
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:04:03 »
Interesting...
Nuvoton on ARM Cortex. 60MHz, 32K flash and 4K sram. Way more than respectable for a keyboard.

I wonder whether it can be reflashed somehow.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:35:11 »
Does it look like you can easily change the stabilizers with costar stabilizers?

Plate mount or pcb mount?

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:49:03 »
Nice review, thanks for the pictures.  I missed out on the group buy, but I have one on the way.
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:05:01 »
Does it look like you can easily change the stabilizers with costar stabilizers?

Plate mount or pcb mount?

Once the cherry stabilzer are clipped, they will feel infinitely better than squeaky costars

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 15:08:03 »
Going through the review a second time, i didnt realise that the switches were mounted upside down.

It was mentioned in the OP, but they're all upside down so it positions the LEDs on top, which can shine through the transparent legends. Normally legends are towards the top of the cap, not the bottom. This model doesn't have LED or caps for this, but it won't make sense to have a different PCB assembly process to accommodate to both models.

The only switch that is mounted rightside up is the spacebar, but that one already has 2 dedicated LEDs not mounted on the switch.


Not sure about the shiny solders.
I can see the shiny solder on the empty pads for my motherboards.
There is no doubt in my mind that the motherboards are ROHS.

I'll test out melting temps later today or tomorrow, and we'll see if these Chinese factories are lying or not.


The LED on the CapsLock is also a feature on the Pure. Maybe Vortex just redesigned the PURE PCB?

PURE closely resembles the old poker. They're basically just revisions of each other. The pure I have is completely different than these poker II PCBs. Same feature and location doesn't mean just modified PCBs. The poker II PCB traces are wired completely different.


Btw, what do you call those dimples that fills the empty spaces the PCB?
Do you know what are they for?

Not exactly sure what all those random dots are for. There are a ton of them too. Although, some of them act as vias and bridges one side of the PCB to the other side. These are the dots with copper dots on them. I haven't desoldered all the switches to confirm the other side, but you can kinda tell because those traces between the two dots aren't connected to anything, so it must be a bridge for the other side.
 

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 30 May 2013, 19:32:23 »
Not exactly sure what all those random dots are for. There are a ton of them too. Although, some of them act as vias and bridges one side of the PCB to the other side. These are the dots with copper dots on them. I haven't desoldered all the switches to confirm the other side, but you can kinda tell because those traces between the two dots aren't connected to anything, so it must be a bridge for the other side.
 

I don't mean the random copper vias.
Those are probably for via stitching.
But I don't understand why you would need so many via stitches on a Keyboard PCB.

What I am really asking though, is the golf ball like dimples on the Black PCB surface. I have no idea what are those.


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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 02:21:13 »
Cross hatched ground plain is there to reduce EMI. Keyboards are not that sensitive to EMI though.
Legends are lasered.
Keycaps looks like the same thick OEM height PBT Ducky is using.

Edit: the filled LED holes. Probably only using 1 solder masking plate in the solder paste machine to save money from having to make a new one for non-LED version.
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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:35:47 »
Thanks for the very detailed review, think I'll look into getting a poker soon.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:43:42 »
Curious as to why they filled up the LED holes too. wtf

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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 04 June 2013, 16:48:42 »
Probably because this version and the backlight version is produced on the same assembly line. The solder machine does not care if there is led in place or not, it just solders away thus filling the holes.
My theory at least.

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 04 June 2013, 22:16:58 »
thanks for the in-depth. This might be my next keyboard since I'd like a portable.

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:05:21 »
Really great review! I love the Image quality on these. The compactness of this keyboard is stellar.
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:22:15 »
The F, G, and H keys has time delay for the function layer: 15ms, 100ms, and 500ms. I noticed this, but didn't realize what it was for until looking at the manual. Anyone know why this would be a useful feature?


thanks for the in-depth. This might be my next keyboard since I'd like a portable.
Really great review! I love the Image quality on these. The compactness of this keyboard is stellar.

Thanks. And welcome to GH btw, you spent your first post in here.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:11:23 »
Would you suggest the Poker 2 or Pure Pro? Or pure? I'm looking for a 60% board

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 14:41:49 »
Would you suggest the Poker 2 or Pure Pro? Or pure? I'm looking for a 60% board

How important are dedicated arrow keys? If you don't need them, then the Poker II is nice. If you do like dedicated arrow keys, then I'd recommend the Tex Beetle over the Pure.

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 14:51:59 »
Would you suggest the Poker 2 or Pure Pro? Or pure? I'm looking for a 60% board

How important are dedicated arrow keys? If you don't need them, then the Poker II is nice. If you do like dedicated arrow keys, then I'd recommend the Tex Beetle over the Pure.

I do like arrow keys, hopefully I'll get used to the fn+wasd lol. I ordered the Poker 2 because of its size, looks, plate, and keycap compatibility. I did a lot of research before buying, and I think I will be happy with it. I kind of want it as a portable work keyboard.

Thanks for the review, WFD, it was very helpful. Although I do have one question: What is the space bar mount like? Is it just standard? I couldn't find any pictures of it.


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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 16:59:39 »
How do you remap the keys?
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 17:14:17 »
Holy Sweet Mother of God. Cactux came out of the classifieds.
In any case, the manual is linked here.

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 17:20:55 »
I am allow to interact with the outside world once every full mon.

Thx

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 19:15:09 »
I know, tis just been a while. :)

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 06 June 2013, 23:54:32 »
How programable is the PMODE? Is it mainly for the LEDs or can your reconfigure the whole function set ups?
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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 09:16:41 »
You can not alter the stock function layer, but you can program a second layer that is reachable via the Pn button. Read the manual for details.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 16:52:33 »
WFD -- Sorry if I missed this earlier, but are the mount points the same as the original Pure? Or, the same as the original Poker X with the exception of the added mount point in the center of the board?

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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 01:40:45 »
Hmmm now I wonder if I should get this Poker II or Poker. The only difference for me at the moment is that I could only find the Poker X with reds, but I can get the Poker II with reds and brown. I guess I just gotta wait till I get my WASD sampler so I can test to see which I would probably like more. It really is just a matter of is it worth the extra money for the Poker II vs. the Poker X.
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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 00:47:25 »
WFD -- Sorry if I missed this earlier, but are the mount points the same as the original Pure? Or, the same as the original Poker X with the exception of the added mount point in the center of the board?

Pure and Poker have the mounting the same positions. So basically since this Poker II has the the additional standoff in the middle of the G and H keys, it's the same as the Pure mounting now.


It really is just a matter of is it worth the extra money for the Poker II vs. the Poker X.

I believe they're at the same price points. At least that's how much I paid for a new Poker I and Poker II. I'd say the improvements on these new poker are worth the small price difference.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 01:09:27 »
The F, G, and H keys has time delay for the function layer: 15ms, 100ms, and 500ms. I noticed this, but didn't realize what it was for until looking at the manual. Anyone know why this would be a useful feature?


thanks for the in-depth. This might be my next keyboard since I'd like a portable.
Really great review! I love the Image quality on these. The compactness of this keyboard is stellar.

Thanks. And welcome to GH btw, you spent your first post in here.

I think those set time delays between programmed keystrokes.  You can use multiples of them to make the time longer.  It's useful for when you need a delay between actions, such as if you have to wait for something, like an internet page to load.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 05:59:57 »
Poker X also has an arrow cluster on WASD if you press down FN.

What you meant in your (quite good) review is the X's lockable arrow cluster on SHIFT,CTRL,APP,WIN.

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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 21:00:49 »
WFD -- Sorry if I missed this earlier, but are the mount points the same as the original Pure? Or, the same as the original Poker X with the exception of the added mount point in the center of the board?

Pure and Poker have the mounting the same positions. So basically since this Poker II has the the additional standoff in the middle of the G and H keys, it's the same as the Pure mounting now.


It really is just a matter of is it worth the extra money for the Poker II vs. the Poker X.

I believe they're at the same price points. At least that's how much I paid for a new Poker I and Poker II. I'd say the improvements on these new poker are worth the small price difference.

I ended up getting the Poker X with MX Reds (like my FC660M but whatever). Saved me about 20 bucks instead of getting a Poker II with MX Browns or Reds plus saving receiving it like a week or more later since it is coming from China. Just going to look forward to getting an aluminum case for the Poker X in the future. I will probably get MX Blues or Browns for my next keyboard with a Poker II in the future.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 19 June 2013, 18:38:11 »
Cancelled my Poker 2 order.
I'm not too sure if it's worth comparing with the upcoming Ducky Shine Mini.
Comparing both, I know Poker 2 is mod-able to get the leds.
But overall, Ducky's build and all should be better than Poker 2 eh ?
Anyone can shine some light on this matter ?
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 20 June 2013, 12:55:44 »
Was under the impression that the duck mini is basically a rebranded poker 2 with full backlighting. So I'm guessing build quality will be identical. 

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 20 June 2013, 13:02:14 »
Cancelled my Poker 2 order.
I'm not too sure if it's worth comparing with the upcoming Ducky Shine Mini.
Comparing both, I know Poker 2 is mod-able to get the leds.
But overall, Ducky's build and all should be better than Poker 2 eh ?
Anyone can shine some light on this matter ?
Thanks

According to the information posted so far, the Poker 2 will have a variant with full backlighting. So if it's programmable, has a fully backlit option, and PBT caps, I'd say the Poker 2 is the better buy.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 20 June 2013, 15:39:47 »
If you sell a keyboard with pad printed keys you need to be run out of business.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 20 June 2013, 18:15:55 »
Very nice review. I must say, I got a good laugh out of the 'marketing slogan' and the space bar cap. It looks like a solid board, but the pad printing is a bit of a turnoff...
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 20 June 2013, 22:29:18 »
Cancelled my Poker 2 order.
I'm not too sure if it's worth comparing with the upcoming Ducky Shine Mini.
Comparing both, I know Poker 2 is mod-able to get the leds.
But overall, Ducky's build and all should be better than Poker 2 eh ?
Anyone can shine some light on this matter ?
Thanks

According to the information posted so far, the Poker 2 will have a variant with full backlighting. So if it's programmable, has a fully backlit option, and PBT caps, I'd say the Poker 2 is the better buy.

Thanks for the reply.
Plus the biggest thing is the distributor in my place is able to source the non-china market ones which are without the "enjoy your feeling" spacebar. So I guess it's a good purchase then ?  ;D
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:00:24 »
Nice review, just reinforces my want for a poker now.  :p
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 16:08:48 »
Amazing review & pictures WFD! Seeing those pictures really make me want one of these, but at the same time, I just don't think I could deal without dedicated arrow keys.... and that "enjoy your feeling" on the space bar.... that's just....   :-X
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 09:53:54 »
For some reason, the screw on the plate is so tight that I screwed up the top contact point of the screw (I don't know how to explain it LOL) by frustratingly turning it around.

Now I can't take the plate/pcb off the case. And I got a MKC case incoming. I don't know what to do. Someone help! :(
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:03:00 »
For some reason, the screw on the plate is so tight that I screwed up the top contact point of the screw (I don't know how to explain it LOL) by frustratingly turning it around.

Now I can't take the plate/pcb off the case. And I got a MKC case incoming. I don't know what to do. Someone help! :(

You rounded it out? Do you have a picture?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:10:16 »
As people come to expect from videos another great review, nice job.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:13:59 »
For some reason, the screw on the plate is so tight that I screwed up the top contact point of the screw (I don't know how to explain it LOL) by frustratingly turning it around.

Now I can't take the plate/pcb off the case. And I got a MKC case incoming. I don't know what to do. Someone help! :(

You rounded it out? Do you have a picture?

Yeah but only 2 screws. Thats the term!
My camera is on a renting trip and I don't some crazy macro lens for it. 

I came across this while searching, will this do the trick? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090225181622AAnDvKp
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:33:28 »
Yeah but only 2 screws. Thats the term!
My camera is on a renting trip and I don't some crazy macro lens for it. 

I came across this while searching, will this do the trick? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090225181622AAnDvKp

There are a bunch of different methods for removing a stripped screw. YouTube has quite a few videos on the subject.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 14:14:29 »
Cancelled my Poker 2 order.
I'm not too sure if it's worth comparing with the upcoming Ducky Shine Mini.
Comparing both, I know Poker 2 is mod-able to get the leds.
But overall, Ducky's build and all should be better than Poker 2 eh ?
Anyone can shine some light on this matter ?
Thanks

According to the information posted so far, the Poker 2 will have a variant with full backlighting. So if it's programmable, has a fully backlit option, and PBT caps, I'd say the Poker 2 is the better buy.

Thanks for the reply.
Plus the biggest thing is the distributor in my place is able to source the non-china market ones which are without the "enjoy your feeling" spacebar. So I guess it's a good purchase then ?  ;D

I want. I love my Poker X, but I would also like a good solid Poker 2.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:14:49 »
Hey! Where can i buy a KBC Poker II?

On their site (http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/) there's only Pure, Race and Poker 1.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:15:47 »
www.mechanicalkeyboards.com has a whole bunch of Poker II's in stock.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:20:05 »
www.mechanicalkeyboards.com has a whole bunch of Poker II's in stock.

Thanks for the link. When i search for Poker, it only gives me those from Vortex brand. Is Vortex the same as KBC?
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:23:31 »
Yes

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:25:28 »
Thanks for the link. When i search for Poker, it only gives me those from Vortex brand. Is Vortex the same as KBC?

KBC (http://www.likeyboard.com) is the online community that created and designed the keyboard. Vortex is the manufacturer.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:34:00 »
Ohoh alright thanks people for the answers now i'm all set.

I have one last question about the subject (most of you must have seen me questioning many threads haha) :

Do you guys consider the Poker II to be worth 120$? Totally worth it? Somewhat worth it?
'Cause you'll guess i'm looking for a keyboard i can bring with myself at my office and the Poker II seems to do the trick, especially because you can save your configuration onboard. Is there other good choices for a portable keyboard?

Thanks again sorry for getting a little sidetrack here.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:54:58 »
Ohoh alright thanks people for the answers now i'm all set.

I have one last question about the subject (most of you must have seen me questioning many threads haha) :

Do you guys consider the Poker II to be worth 120$? Totally worth it? Somewhat worth it?
'Cause you'll guess i'm looking for a keyboard i can bring with myself at my office and the Poker II seems to do the trick, especially because you can save your configuration onboard. Is there other good choices for a portable keyboard?

Thanks again sorry for getting a little sidetrack here.

I'd say a Poker II is a great choice for that use-case. Since the switches are plate-mounted, it'll help with the overall durability of the keyboard. Also, the box for the Poker II is tiny enough to where you could easily just carry it in the box wherever you need to bring it. So yes, you have my vote for buying one!
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 09 July 2013, 02:05:45 »
Just got mine this week and haven't put it down yet. It's very much worth the money, IMO. Someday it might be worth more than that around here :)

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 09 July 2013, 09:35:50 »
Are the legends on the keycaps really pad printed like written in this review? I always thought this is laser etched keycaps...

EDIT: Or not laser etched, but I tried to get rid off the text on the spacebar and for me it looks like they engraved the letters and filled that... Don't know if that has a special name, but pad printing is something different, or not?
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 09 July 2013, 09:57:49 »
If i were to compare a Poker II Versus a Happy Hacking Pro 2, one is 100$ the other one is 200$+.

What's the deal between the two? I mean, what makes the HHP2 this much expensive versus the Poker II?
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:22:22 »
If i were to compare a Poker II Versus a Happy Hacking Pro 2, one is 100$ the other one is 200$+.

What's the deal between the two? I mean, what makes the HHP2 this much expensive versus the Poker II?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:30:00 »
Are the legends on the keycaps really pad printed like written in this review? I always thought this is laser etched keycaps...

EDIT: Or not laser etched, but I tried to get rid off the text on the spacebar and for me it looks like they engraved the letters and filled that... Don't know if that has a special name, but pad printing is something different, or not?

They look laser-etched to me.  They might be etched and filled, but I doubt it.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:37:49 »
If i were to compare a Poker II Versus a Happy Hacking Pro 2, one is 100$ the other one is 200$+.

What's the deal between the two? I mean, what makes the HHP2 this much expensive versus the Poker II?

Topre switches vs mx?

Yeah read afterwards. My question was dumb lol. Topre is pretty expensive really $_$
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:35:14 »
If the Poker II can remap its keys, does this mean I can remap the Fn layer directional keys to ESDF?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:48:55 »
If the Poker II can remap its keys, does this mean I can remap the Fn layer directional keys to ESDF?

the poker II has 2x programmable layers on top of the regular and fn layer.  the PN layer is all programmable and the PN+FN layer is also programmable.  You can make your PN layer have "wasd" on "esdf".  Enable pn lock which is fn+ shift and you have the switch locked in place.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 12 July 2013, 20:19:55 »
My Poker 2 is in the mail now. :)

I'm eager to try this.

:) :) :) :) :)

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #76 on: Sat, 13 July 2013, 08:30:51 »
I think I prefer the old Poker...
One nice thing about it was it's modding potential as you could easily open the switches, no more with the plate (without cutouts) on the Poker2
Also the glass diodes and the surface mount USB and DIP switch unit (components that get mechanical stress should be through hole if possible imo).
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 07:42:17 »
One of the reasons why I keep buying custom keyboards is to remap the layout to Colemak. So, I have ordered 4 GH60 as well.
Since Poker 2 is fully programmable, it could help me to stop buying more custom parts. Poker 2 is much cheaper than a custom also.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:32:41 »
It arrived it arrives it arrived it arrived!!! It's here It's here It's here It's here It's here!!!

But i have to wait to get home to use it laaaaaame.

But it's here!!! :D
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:35:47 »
It arrived it arrives it arrived it arrived!!! It's here It's here It's here It's here It's here!!!

But i have to wait to get home to use it laaaaaame.

But it's here!!! :D

I'm still waiting on mine, WHY SHOULD YOU BE HAPPY?
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 14:12:07 »
It arrived it arrives it arrived it arrived!!! It's here It's here It's here It's here It's here!!!

But i have to wait to get home to use it laaaaaame.

But it's here!!! :D

I'm still waiting on mine, WHY SHOULD YOU BE HAPPY?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 14:33:52 »
It arrived it arrives it arrived it arrived!!! It's here It's here It's here It's here It's here!!!

But i have to wait to get home to use it laaaaaame.

But it's here!!! :D

I'm still waiting on mine, WHY SHOULD YOU BE HAPPY?

I'm happy because i'm still alive while the entire world pushed me to end my life for the last 20 miserable years i've accumulated so far.

... I was just messing with you. What an incredibly dark sentiment.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 07:32:58 »
It arrived it arrives it arrived it arrived!!! It's here It's here It's here It's here It's here!!!

But i have to wait to get home to use it laaaaaame.

But it's here!!! :D

I'm still waiting on mine, WHY SHOULD YOU BE HAPPY?

I'm happy because i'm still alive while the entire world pushed me to end my life for the last 20 miserable years i've accumulated so far.

... I was just messing with you. What an incredibly dark sentiment.

I know right, i wanted to sound as dramatic as possible.

Lol don't take me seriously, we're on the internet :) i'm just messing with you too.

Anyway i received it in a sweet little package yesterday. Currently using it at my job. Almost everyone is out of office though do i can't show off :(

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 20 July 2013, 12:48:24 »
Aren't the keycaps laser-engraved with in-fill, not pad printed?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 21 July 2013, 22:48:19 »
Aren't the keycaps laser-engraved with in-fill, not pad printed?

According to mechanicalkeyboards.com, they are laser etched: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=458.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 21 July 2013, 23:01:02 »
Aren't the keycaps laser-engraved with in-fill, not pad printed?

According to mechanicalkeyboards.com, they are laser etched: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=458.

So, yes. :P

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« Reply #86 on: Sun, 21 July 2013, 23:23:31 »
I'm going to call shenanigans...these are pad printed.

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« Reply #87 on: Sun, 21 July 2013, 23:58:45 »
First of all this is an amazing reviews that covered most of the same issues I don't like about the keyboard. Awesome photos and you can tell that there was a lot of time put into it all.

Thank you for the review!!! Keep up the good work.

As a side note on mechanicalkeyboards.com they are including a second spacebar that doesn't have the "influential quote", which I don't know if it is an option done by the manufacturer or the website.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 22 July 2013, 07:16:20 »
Yeah the keyboard feels pretty cool. It's slick, small and the build quality is just awesome.

You really feel it's a good keyboard. It's pretty comfortable. All in all it's a good buy as far as i know, but only time will tell. I expect this keyboard to run for at least 5 years from today, but it looks like it's starting very well i really hope the keyboard doesn't worn out at all.

I changed the spacebar to the blank one though, i really think "Enjoy your feelings" is a creepy slogan... and people at the office would be creeped out lol.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 31 July 2013, 07:07:53 »
Is the printing on your keycaps already wearing out? It is strange with my board, some keys are heavily affected and others are not. For example W looks far better than ASD, altough I use it for Counter Strike (but not that much, anyway) and I thouth it is a heavily used key as well.

Any guesses when the pringting will be gone completely?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:59:27 »
Is the printing on your keycaps already wearing out? It is strange with my board, some keys are heavily affected and others are not. For example W looks far better than ASD, altough I use it for Counter Strike (but not that much, anyway) and I thouth it is a heavily used key as well.

Any guesses when the pringting will be gone completely?

I have no idea. After a few pics from this review, it went back into the box in storage. I don't think I even typed a full sentence on it yet, so maybe wait until someone that put extensive usage on the keycaps can comment. In general though, home keys where your fingers rest will wear faster than other keys.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 05 August 2013, 19:58:38 »
Great review WhiteFireDragon! Your comparison review of the QFR vs Filco TKL sold me on the QFR as my first mechanical board.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 02:28:48 »
I can't believe they went through all the trouble to make the keyboard so nice. With the metal plating to make it not flex, PBT keycaps, but they skimp on the printing and do pad printing? WTF! Either way.... I still bought it.

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« Reply #93 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 13:03:19 »
Great review! agree about the caps. silly to do high quality caps and then print them.
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« Reply #94 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 09:26:26 »
Look's nice!
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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:06:06 »
Can you do "CTRL-SHIFT-Arrow key" to select words with poker 2?

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« Reply #96 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:02:28 »
Can you do "CTRL-SHIFT-Arrow key" to select words with poker 2?

Yes you can. I used mine at work for a week and got so used to using all the modifiers on it that it was hard to go back to my normal tenkeyless.

The weird part to get used to was the Ctrl+Alt+Fn+Backspace (Delete) key to log back in.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:56:40 »
Yes you can. I used mine at work for a week and got so used to using all the modifiers on it that it was hard to go back to my normal tenkeyless.

The weird part to get used to was the Ctrl+Alt+Fn+Backspace (Delete) key to log back in.

Excellent! Thanks :D

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:05:01 »
The weird part to get used to was the Ctrl+Alt+Fn+Backspace (Delete) key to log back in.

Since I have to do this a lot at work I had a hard time with it and gave up on using the poker.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 23 August 2013, 23:16:35 »
Just got my poker2, I think it's gonna take me some times to get used to it.
Especially using it on Excel.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 24 August 2013, 00:05:13 »
Just got my poker2, I think it's gonna take me some times to get used to it.
Especially using it on Excel.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #101 on: Sat, 24 August 2013, 00:23:06 »
That's what these are for:
I mean for the arrow keys. I used to using the number keys on my laptop so I don't need the num pad

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 24 August 2013, 01:59:55 »
That's what these are for:
I mean for the arrow keys. I used to using the number keys on my laptop so I don't need the num pad

You could always try this one....but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a compact keyboard.

http://www.amazon.com/Scorpius-32-Keypad-Professional-Numeric/dp/B0016PB994/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1377327552&sr=8-2&keywords=iOne+Scorpius+32

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 24 August 2013, 03:19:01 »
That's what these are for:
I mean for the arrow keys. I used to using the number keys on my laptop so I don't need the num pad

2,4,6, and 8 are arrow keys.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 16:43:04 »
Great review!

Helped me to decide between poker II and pure pro!!

Thanx!

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:23:54 »
Great review!

Helped me to decide between poker II and pure pro!!

Thanx!
So which one did you decide? ;D

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 13:21:28 »
Great review!

Helped me to decide between poker II and pure pro!!

Thanx!
So which one did you decide? ;D

A poker II, i want to try ANSI layout and the pure have a weird layout because of the arrow keys, but it gonna take me a while to get used to it  :p

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:27:51 »
Good review. Top notch pics.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #108 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 07:07:39 »
Not a review but here's the macro shot of the keycaps
Overall:

Crop:

So ... those caps are infill aren't they?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 07:28:38 »
Not a review but here's the macro shot of the keycaps
Overall:
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Crop:
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So ... those caps are infill aren't they?

That is cool
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 07:49:11 »
New metallic label on the bottom of the case. All the words are laser-etched. There is a lame attempt for a marketing slogan in the middle
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I didn't expect the matter-of-fact humor there, so that was pretty funny; that isn't the most terribly witty slogan, but at least it's on the bottom.  The spacebar, on the other hand, would probably prevent me from getting it.  Having random, unnecessary text jump out at me every time I looked at my keyboard is definitely a turnoff.  It's like my computer having "enjoy being unproductive for the next several hours" scrawled across the side of the case.

The marketing team must have been sitting around, "Guys, how do we make our keyboard stand out?  Any ideas, Fred?"  "Well, they pay exorbitant prices for mechanical keyboards for the feeling their fingers get, right, so why not remind them of that every time they look down?"  "Brilliant!"

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 08:48:16 »
So far i have used this keyboard for 2 months, no sign of any issues, not wearing out at all, still works as perfect as release day. Wondering if it would be worth it to switch the MX on it but i might do that in a month or two.

Anyway for 100$ you get an ultra-portable incredibly well built quality keyboard which works like a charm.

I defenetly recommend this keyboard for anyone who needs mobility and types a lot. Also the Micro-USB interfaces makes it easy since i accumulated these over the years; now there's one permanently hanging out of my Mac, my Windows computer and Office computer, and there's one in the box. I can physically switch where the keyboard will input and that's a blessing for multiple computers, trust me.

It's now full of macros working on all my computers weather they are Unix/Mac/Windows computer. They all work without flaws. Only "lack" is that i have no clue how to call the "command" key for Mac on my Poker 2, cause Win key doesn't seem to be working all the time (while it should be the same?).

Also all the girls are on me since i got this little baby. Trust me this Badass piece of hardware will make you irresistible for all those nerdy office cock-hungry girls.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 15:12:02 »
this review kinda makes me wish I hadn't JUST sold my Poker 2 with browns.  :( :( though I have a Duck Poker now, so I'm not complaining, ha!  ;D  but, seriously, nice review, dude! 

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:41:02 »
Not a review but here's the macro shot of the keycaps
Overall:
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Crop:
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So ... those caps are infill aren't they?

Well I'm glad that my only complaint about the keyboard has been addressed and that I have the perfect keyboard!

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 19:42:40 »
Am I the only one that likes the "Enjoy your feeling" text? :p
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #115 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 20:03:12 »
Am I the only one that likes the "Enjoy your feeling" text? :p
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 22:13:18 »
Am I the only one that likes the "Enjoy your feeling" text? :p

Ripped that thing off ASAP and put on the blank space bar.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 31 August 2013, 16:04:30 »
I'm somewhat newer to mechanical keyboards and I was interested a Poker II.

How would you recommend this to somebody whose never used anything other then a full sized keyboard?
Currently have a Corsair K70 and considering trading it for this.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #118 on: Sun, 01 September 2013, 22:48:35 »
I'm somewhat newer to mechanical keyboards and I was interested a Poker II.

How would you recommend this to somebody whose never used anything other then a full sized keyboard?
Currently have a Corsair K70 and considering trading it for this.

First of all you will love a Poker 2 but it will take some getting used to. My suggestion is, if you do get it, use only it for a month and then try going back to your full size. If you are constantly trying to hit modifier keys that aren't there than you are used to the Poker....and you win!!!
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #119 on: Mon, 02 September 2013, 09:35:15 »
I'm somewhat newer to mechanical keyboards and I was interested a Poker II.

How would you recommend this to somebody whose never used anything other then a full sized keyboard?
Currently have a Corsair K70 and considering trading it for this.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 12:57:51 »
Really good review. had lots helpful stuff in it as i was thinking of picking up a poker II at some point.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 26 September 2013, 15:49:17 »
This review was definitely helpful in my quest to purchase a 60% kb. The choices I narrowed it down to were the Poker II, Tex Beetle, and Leopold FC660M. The Poker ultimately won out for its high degree of customization. Today is my first day using it, and I'm really enjoying the experience. The layout will take some time to get used to, but I can tell right away that selecting the MX Brown switches was the right call. My only gripe is that the backspace key is a tiny bit rattly when I hit it. I'm hoping once I add the WASD o-rings I ordered that it will make a difference. If not, no big deal. Regardless, while I dislike the font on the stock caps, they feel spectacular to type on. This board is going to make my full-time writing job a joy.

I'm really happy with the Poker so far and have a couple custom caps on order from the GB section, along with an inquiry for a custom padded sleeve. I'm also looking at a custom case and custom USB cables. This could end up being one very expensive keyboard but ultimately well worth the cost.

Extra props to qtan for the quick order processing and shipment. It made it from China to my front door in four business days. It actually should have been five because I requested that DHL deliver it today, but they ignored it.
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 06:30:06 »
So, I saw this Dota 2 keycap in a friend's Poker and I was drooling on both the key cap and the mini size of the Poker 2.


The space bar is ugly but my friend said it came with a replacement space bar so I guess you can always change it.

My gripe though is with the key caps. On certain key especially modifiers, you can see the Cherry + showing up as though being pushed up from below. Is this the normal PBT key caps behavior or just a faulty key caps? If I were to consider a mini, wouldn't a Leopold or Filco be a better choice due to well known brands and better QC?
 

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #123 on: Sun, 13 October 2013, 16:45:38 »
Spacebar is ABS, no?

How does it feel for the spacebar not to be the same material as the others?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #124 on: Sun, 13 October 2013, 18:42:03 »
Space bar is PBT. The same can be said of the extra plain space bar provided in case you hate the one that was installed on the keyboard.
 

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 13 October 2013, 18:44:54 »
PBT is da bomb

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #126 on: Sun, 13 October 2013, 19:01:28 »
Spacebar is ABS, no?

How does it feel for the spacebar not to be the same material as the others?

you're thinking of HHKB (and RF?)
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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #127 on: Sun, 13 October 2013, 19:08:35 »
Spacebar is ABS, no?

How does it feel for the spacebar not to be the same material as the others?

you're thinking of HHKB (and RF?)

Topre havent found a way to create a PBT spacebar yet,  The pbt would warp would it is being sculpted

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:56:15 »
Spacebar is ABS, no?

How does it feel for the spacebar not to be the same material as the others?

you're thinking of HHKB (and RF?)

My bad, could've sworn it was ABS

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #129 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 05:40:00 »
Is this the normal PBT key caps behavior or just a faulty key caps?
It's not normal for PBT key caps (or any, IMO).

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Poker II review
« Reply #130 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 06:05:08 »
Is this the normal PBT key caps behavior or just a faulty key caps?
It's not normal for PBT key caps (or any, IMO).
Hmm... But this seems common with Poker 2.. Not sure if you understand what I described.

I quote the OP who provided a macro shot:

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http://m.imgur.com/C1C3CEu
 

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 06:24:05 »
Probably due to whoever manufactures the key caps for the Poker 2 in that case. I have a set of thin PBTs by KBC and there are very small bumps due to the "+" on some some keys (includes some alphas too, so not just modifiers), though I don't notice them unless I look for them.

On my FC700R though, its stock PBT key caps are perfectly fine. I can't comment on imsto/KBC "thick" PBT sets since I don't have one (..yet :p), though I'd expect them to be perfectly fine as well.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #132 on: Mon, 11 November 2013, 06:32:19 »
I have bought the poker 2, but is there a possibility to use ALT codes? I need é en ë a lot, but without a numpad it won't work. Any tips?

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:59:47 »
I have bought the poker 2, but is there a possibility to use ALT codes? I need é en ë a lot, but without a numpad it won't work. Any tips?

I use AutoHotKey for many things: shortcuts, etc. So, it can apply to your situation.

http://www.autohotkey.com/

It is a software-based solution however.

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Re: Poker II review
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 15:50:29 »
thank you for the quality review, very helpful.