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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:16:37

Title: [GB] Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:16:37
ORDERING CLOSED Feb 29th! There are a couple of leftover full size sets for sale HERE (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27740-Ragnorock-s-Group-Buy-Leftovers!-Nyancat-Triforce-SC2-and-more-in-the-future!) The price is $85.

Alright, here we go again. After much discussion, the "Blood" keyset integrated into Round 4 has been rescued by me and is happening now. This group buy is going to be quick, simple, and more efficient than any previous group buy I have run. Generally participants of previous group buys can skip most of this, as not much other than prices and shipping have changed. As these keys come in much higher quantities, bubble mailers are not an option. There should not be a problem for those ordering up to 2, even 3 sets in a flat rate box, but if you buy several expect your shipping rate to double for a second box.

The Ragnarok keyset:
87 Doubleshot keys + an extra Enter key using the custom legend "Execute" (88 keys in total)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]40967[/ATTACH]

Windows key will use the Windows 8 logo, form key will be standard. Expect a Biohazard symbol group buy for those looking for an OS agnostic version to happen immediately after orders close for this set.
I've photoshopped the above image as much as I care to but you get the idea. Legends for the Windows and form keys are going to be standard, as most people around have their own custom modifier keys by now anyways. If anyone has any better ideas, shoot. Arrows etc are not final, Melissa didn't even get this exact image, they are just using their standard DCS set. I will make sure we don't have issues like "Back Space" though.

Its basically going to look a lot like this.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]40968[/ATTACH]

The specific color code is RA on NN, exactly the same as the Terran keycap from the SC2 group buy (the inspiration behind this.)

In addition, I am offering several compatibility kits for use with various keyboards aside from the basic 87 key set. How this works is that you buy the 87 key set, and then choose which, if any, add on kits you want to suit your needs. That way the people just looking for the base set, which is what this group buy was originally limited to, don't have to pay more for keys they don't need. The kits start off expensive, but I told you from the start they would be. Any kits that get less than 15 takers will be dropped. Judging from the interest check, only ISO could have a problem with this. It would be really nice to get them to 25, as I'm sure you'll agree.

Tsangan's Combatibility Kit

Makes the 87 kit compatible with winkeyless keyboards such as Phantom, Dox, Cherry 1800, DKSaver, 356CL, Choc Mini, and many more! Ask Tsangan for clarification if you are unsure.
Contains 11 keys
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41106[/ATTACH]
Ignore the color of course, but that gives a good idea of what you get.
2 Alt (1.5x)
2 Ctrl (1.5x)
These are just the bottom row in 1.5x size

2 "Star" 1x keys that fit row 4

2 Diamond/Meta/Super (1x keys)
This will go between the Alt and Control and is a 1x size key, with a Windows logo legend (Or we could do a diamond, more Phantom buyers need to speak up)

1 Stepped CapsLock
Same size as the capslock but it's stepped. The stem is off center. I repeat, it is not center stemmed.

1 1800 Shift (1.75x)
This is a short shift in 1.75x size for the right shift so you can fit another 1x key beside it

1 Spacebar (7x)
Just longer then your average spacebar this one would be 7x size and it needs to be centre stem.


The 104 Kit
The 17 keys that make up the tenkey and its surrounding keys. Basically making this set compatible with full size ANSI keyboards.

The ISO Kit
3 Key set providing compatibility with various ISO keyboards. This set is not language specific, but a sortof hybrid US ISO layout meant to be non region specific. The problem with this kit is that it doesn't have enough interest and is in jeopardy of being dropped, that and because of the J shaped return it is obnoxiously expensive. Unless the ISO people come out of the woodwork and get the counts to where the price is where everyone can agree on being willing to pay for, it will be dropped. The legend for the 3th key next to the small left shift is up for suggestion, as it has no universal legend. The legend for the other not obvious key is \ and |.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41438[/ATTACH]


Rules and Notes

Payment by Paypal only, do not order if you do not have a verified account yet, and get one if you want these.

Country must be specified with your order, US, CAN or whatever country you're in.

My time is not free, I'm orchestrating this group buy because I want these keys myself, but I cannot be asked to spend the great deal of time that this requires without some compensation. I feel it's pretty reasonable for me to ask for $1 out of the shipping cost as a handling fee. This has become standard for my group buys and the feedback I've gotten has been positive so if you have any complaints please enjoy the round 4 ordering process. Unlike the other group buys, there is not much ability for me to buy extras and make this worth my time, so for the sake of convenience and to make it a little more worthwhile, the prices for the kits have all been rounded up to the next dollar or so.

No trolls allowed. (Except for Ripster) >.>

I might be ordering extras, how many depends on our total orders and quantity discounts, but they are quite expensive to invest in. Whatever extra sets I do buy will be marked up to try and recoup some money for my time invested. If we hit somewhere past the "Magic Number" for the next discount, do not expect me to give that discount to everyone and buy the extras that make it cheaper, because if you do the math its over $1000 for me to do it. Simply stated, the magic number doesn't exist, and doesn't help anyone but me if I decide to order more and not share the discount. There has been plenty of vehement discussion on this, and I will not go through it all again here. Since there is not much of a way for me to earn any money at all off of this group buy, (the $1 is completely insignificant and really just pays for my gas... and we're probably going to only be doing 50 orders or so.) I reserve the right to take advantage of quantity discounts if the numbers don't happen, honestly it would be really nice of everyone to only get like 45 orders and let me pocket the $500 (plus whatever I'd get for selling the extra 5 sets,) but I don't expect that to happen, nor will I cut off orders preemptively to try and screw people out of a discount. I think everyone here knows by now that this whole gig runs on mutual respect and amicability between everyone. I've built a pretty decent reputation here and I don't intend to betray that.

Instructions

1. Specify which keys you want in both a response to this thread and a PM. I am tallying orders from PMs, not from responses to this thread. The only difference between your reply and PM is that you include your Paypal email and your shipping address this timein the PM. I will be sending the Paypal invoice to this email. When you get that email, please pay immediately, there won't be much time if you want to get these by March/April- it depends entirely on SP's lead time.
-The PM should also include which country you are in, US or Canada etc. Please put Ragnarok somewhere in the PM title and Question if it is a question. You can edit your order as many times as you want up until orders close and invoices start going out. Just be sure to send another pm and indicate somewhere in it that you want to change an order and it isn't a new one.

2. Check for your name in the list of confirmed orders in the OP. Expect it to be updated generally within 48 hours, if you don't see it, I haven't gotten your order yet and you need to repost/resend your PM. If I didn't add you to the list it may be because YOU DID IT WRONG. So double check you shiz and make sure it's correct before resending. I will try my best to respond back to clear up any confusion but don't count on it.

3. Wait for the orders to close, and when they do, expect an email from me asking for payment. I'm going to be calculating everyone's individual cost via a really cool excel doc I've whipped up and it's kinda what my major is so there shouldn't be any errors. Nevertheless, if you do the math based upon the final count in the OP and calculate your cost to be different, then respond ASAP to clear it up. When you pay the invoice, your shipping address will probably be included, but I will be shipping to the address in your PM over what is in Paypal.

4. Wait for keycaps to show up. I will be providing updates in new posts as my work progresses so keep an eye on the thread.

5. ????????

6. Type until the end of the world?

Pricing

FINAL PRICES IN BOLD

Ragnarok

25  keysets     $72.00
50  keysets     $53.00
75  keysets     $46.00
100 keysets    $45.00

Tsangan (Updated to include the extra 2 1x keys)

15 keysets     $33.00
25 keysets     $23.00
50 keysets     $14.00
75 keysets     $11.00
100 keysets $10.00

104
15 keysets     $28.00
25 keysets     $20.00
50 keysets     $14.00
75 keysets     $12.00
100 keysets $10.00
No Longer contains the JRET, get a blank from R4.
ISO
5 keysets $18.00
10 keysets $11.00
15 keysets $9.00
25 keysets $6.00
50 keysets $5.00

As you may note, ISO was significantly more expensive, the explanation for that is that the J shaped return cannot be run with anything else, and thus costs a lot more. I was surprised and disappointed with this, but unless everyone buying ISO agreed to pay those obscene rates, it wasn't going to work. Thus it is now a 3 key set without the JRET.


Quantity discounts are not shared between keysets. For example, the Tsangan keysets ordered do not count toward the 104 sets ordered, the combined count does not matter.


Shipping + Handling (Prices went up last time I went there)

US Options:
$6.50 ($5.50 + $1 handling... Flat rates went up in price.) A medium or large flat rate box that may be necessary if you order a large quantity of keys. Up to 3 base sets.

Medium Flat Rate box: $12.50 More than 3 base sets to probably any order in this group buy.

Canada Options:
Canada didn't go up in price so its still $15.

Medium Flat Rate box: $34

International:
$18 Small flat rate box

Medium Flat Rate box: $49

All of these will ship in the Priority flat rate boxes, which is what these rates are based off of. Seriously the flat rate international small box rate is now $17. I lost money on the orders that paid $15 last time. I am not happy about this either but unless I can find an affordable substitute for boxes before I start collecting money these are the prices. Boxes are much more expensive to buy, so I'm going to take a look at various options but don't expect them to magically go down 10 dollars in price. Multiple boxes and potentially insurance may be required for large orders. I will work with those buyers to ensure fair shipping.

Extra large orders will be custom quoted via PM.

Paypal fees:

3% + $0.30 and is calculated in the invoicing. If you must gift it, arrangements must be made via PM.

Sample order PM:

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

ISO
1x Keyset

Country: US

Email: An.email@googlemail.com (An.email@googlemail.com)

^Be sure it is your paypal email!

Address:
Frank Miller
234 S Doom St
Apt 666
Los Angeles, CA 123456
France

REMEMBER, for your own privacy, do not include your address or email in your post within the thread, but DO include it in your PM! The post within the thread is unofficial and only serves to show the community how popular the group buy is. Don't be a derp!

Order counter:

Ragnarok- 131
Tsangan- 65
104- 42
ISO- 12


Do not forget any of the info in that sample order, I need all of it!

Agan, orders closed February 29th!

Confirmed order list:
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103 Buyers

Cheers!
Dave out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:22:10
In for Ragnarok Keyset x 1

Thanks for putting this together!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:22:16
You are making sure to include the Filco+Leopold combination spacebar, correct?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:28:50
Ragnarok - 1
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:29:55
In for the normal TKL ragnarok set (haha you named it after yourself), but let me make sure first. So much reading lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:30:20
Ragnarok
2x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: Malaysia
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jil_jil32 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:43:01
Ragnarok x1
Title: "Ragnarok" Doubleshot Red on Black 87/104 Keyset
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:47:50
Put me down for these two (2)


Ragnarok
1x Keyset - 1

104
1x Keyset - 1


Country:  AUSTRALIA.


Thanks Dave.

Have already PM'ed you.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 18 February 2012, 03:52:48
In for 1x ragnarok. Will be PMing you shortly.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Rinzler on Sat, 18 February 2012, 04:59:59
1 x Ragnarok. Kthx.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: HWI on Sat, 18 February 2012, 05:13:55
Ragnarok Keyset x1
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Wraul on Sat, 18 February 2012, 05:30:18
Just PMed you with the following order

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

ISO
1x Keyset

Country: Sweden
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sat, 18 February 2012, 05:54:26
Just so I'm clear, if there are 45-49 orders for the base set you're going to buy the extra sets necessary to reach the 50 sets price point but everyone would still pay the 25 sets price?

Anyway,

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

PM incoming!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 18 February 2012, 07:28:56
PM'ed you for an order.

Ragnarock
1x
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 08:01:28
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

Country: USA

Also, I vote for a diamond key instead of a windows key in the phantom kit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 08:22:38
Diamond over win key!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jil_jil32 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 08:26:00
Nooo.
If can have somethings like the "splat" one... YES!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 09:06:00
Splat keys are ugly
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 18 February 2012, 09:13:03
Quote from: jil_jil32;517715
Nooo.
If can have somethings like the "splat" one... YES!

What kind of 'splat' keys are we talking about here?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 09:17:55
Cc made some keys that look like they have blood on them. If that's the splat keys he's talking about.

Ugly IMO. Diamond ftw
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rainb1ood on Sat, 18 February 2012, 09:29:26
PM sent

Ragnarok
x1 Keyset

One question, is the diamond super/meta key available in 1.25 also? (For filco)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:00:37
1 Base
1 Phantom Add-on

Diamond over anyone once again
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:09:25
Haha now I know which splat you guys were talking about and I can see why that'll be a perfect fit seeing this set's links with blood and what not.. Aren't there a number of diamond modifier sets? The splat would be something new and unique (not counting cc's creation).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:22:04
blood splatter design is a very love it or hate it design, while the diamond is almost a universal design where you won't really love it or hate it.

Choices are Diamond/Meta/Window key, NOT splat, also there's legends fee required for that also.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:26:58
Hmm I get what you mean and honestly, I kinda feel like we shouldn't just rip off cc's design without asking him for permission or not even then. So.... my vote is for diamond!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bavman on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:34:16
1x tkl kit
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:37:59
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: USA

Diamond key, please.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:40:04
Quote from: ripster;517767
Ripping off ClickClack ideas?!?!?!??!

There aren't many bannable offenses at Geekhack but that is one of them.

Yup I guess I agree. I want to stay on at geekhack and spend thousands more of my money here so don't ban me for briefly wanting splats on my keyboard please!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:53:25
And they are ugly. Look more like bloody semen than anything.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:59:21
Eww.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Soulpyre on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:03:34
PM sent

Ragnorock
1x keyset

104
1x keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:09:31
Quote from: demik;517785
And they are ugly. Look more like bloody semen than anything.


You should have that checked out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: shawn o on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:21:43
Ragnarok
1x Keyset - 1

104
1x Keyset - 1

Country: USA
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: shawn o on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:23:00
Keep it exactly as pictured with stock modifiers. If people want something else do extra keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: placebo guy on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:42:13
Damn shawn o, we should send package together to save on shipping. =P

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country:  USA
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:49:01
I'd prefer anything other than the Windows logo. Super/Meta, diamonds, blank, etc.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:52:19
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Empty wallet logo on the modifiers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:20:41
Quote from: RColinTaylor;517649
You are making sure to include the Filco+Leopold combination spacebar, correct?


Of course!

Quote from: metafour;517686
Just so I'm clear, if there are 45-49 orders for the base set you're going to buy the extra sets necessary to reach the 50 sets price point but everyone would still pay the 25 sets price?

Anyway,

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

PM incoming!


Simply put, yes. However it isn't the up to 50 I am concerned about, I have wanted to do more than 50 orders from the start and I will be pretty disappointed if it doesn't. Since the discount for 75 puts us well below what everyone is expecting to pay anyways, I was thinking more about that. I already have 25 PMs in my inbox btw, and we have like 2 weeks till orders close hitting 75 shouldn't even be a problem. What I would really like to see is people hitting the 25 discount for the add on sets, that is what will make it more expensive for those people.

Regardless, I'll give you some math though to justify it.

Lets use Triforce as an example. I paid about $0.20 for each extra key I bought after taking advantage of the price difference between the 200 and 100 price points. I'm now selling them for $4, making $3.80 on each key. This is my biggest opportunity to profit from the last group buy. After mistakes/miscalculations, I have about 55 keys to sell, making me a cool $288, and it only required me to do without $16 for the time it takes me to sell them. (This is all public knowledge by now and if you flame me for it your order gets cancelled.) Compare that to the Nyancat Set, which cost me $145 out of pocket and made me $375, I make $230 but the margins are lower while the investment is much higher. Now lets apply that to this group buy, in which the costs are much higher still than the Nyancat set.

If I was to buy extra Ragnarok keysets, say for the sake of example we do get 50 orders, and I want to buy up to 75 for the next discount anyways. That amounts to ($3375-2600) an additional investment of $775. Some members will be like well yeah, but think of it this way, you only paid $31 a keyset, which is a fantastic deal. Since there is not much room to sell these for profit, I'd probably only be able to unload them in a reasonably quick timeframe pricing them at $60. So I make $29 per keyset. I have 25 to sell, so I make a cool $725, which is a great profit, but wait, who do I sell them to? If nobody on here had bought them I could sell them in that reasonably quick timeframe, but finding a bunch of people who aren't already in on this is probably my biggest concern. That and I simply don't have $775 sitting around I can comfortably do without for a couple of months or more. For individual keys, the margins are much better, and the initial investment I can afford, so it is best for me to just get this group buy done quickly so I can get back to doing individual keys. Like I said before, it would be really nice if everyone was willing to pay a higher price so I could make a decent return for the time I'll be putting into this one, but I don't expect that of you. Essentially, unless I luck out and orders stall at like 65-70, I'm going to make maybe, MAYBE $100 off of this group buy. At 65 orders I essentially get 10 keysets that don't cost me anything to buy and I can try to sell them for $50-60 and try and make my usual $500-1000 in compensation I have been. This has basically become my job while in school, and I treat it like one. However, I love this community and again, am doing this group buy more so that everyone can get some damn doubleshots than for my own rent payment.

Anyways, my comment in the OP about how it would be really nice for me if everyone wanted to thank me by stalling it at like 49 sets and paying $70 was a bit of sarcasm, but it would mean I get like $830 in exchange for doing it and have one extra set to sell, so near as makes no difference $900. That would fall right in line with what I would want to make off of a group buy, but I do not expect that nor want that to happen, I would be much happier with stalling at 65 sets, as I then can get the keysets into the hands of more people and make that money by selling them, not just for taking advantage of the quantity discounts. Between 65 and 75 I actually make less as it gets closer to 75, its just that I have less kits to sell and less burden to bear.

Sorry for the longcat response but I wanted to be clear on this, full disclosure etc.


Quote from: rainb1ood;517734
PM sent

Ragnarok
x1 Keyset

One question, is the diamond super/meta key available in 1.25 also? (For filco)

Yes, by default, the base set comes with the 1.25x modifiers for the bottom row. The whole talk about 1.5x shenanigans is just so that guys with the Phantom keyboard can order extra keys in order to ensure Phantom compatibility. Disclaimer though, I know nothing about the Phantom keyboard, so if any of what is listed in the OP is incorrect, send your torches and pitchforks over to Tsangan.


Quote from: Kisakuku;517836
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Empty wallet logo on the modifiers.

That would be amazing lol. It looks like we're going to go with the diamond logo though, I've only gotten one vote for the windows key, and I personally despise Windows anyways. The blood splatter key wasn't something I was interested with or without an additional fee, for the reasons many have said before. In my next emails to Melissa I will ask her how big of a deal it would be to do one more custom key and have an empty wallet logo, and if there is no cutting fee for it I'll do it, would be great lol. (That would be the menu/meta or whatever key on the right side of the spacebar only) In the meantime we should get Hazel to see what he can do to make a logo that would work for a doubleshot. Honestly that is the biggest hurdle since you don't have much to work with.

Dave out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:44:06
Diamond keys for all!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:47:54
Quote from: tsangan;517955
Diamond keys for all!

I agree. After all, a diamond is just a top view of an empty wallet.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:49:50
I don't own a traditional wallet :/

More like a money clip with openings for cards.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:51:14
Also not a huge fan of the wallet thing but dunno if that's just me, as long as that's an extra key and I don't need to use it I'm fine
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:52:50
Yeah I may have been still a little groggy when I mulled that over. Its probably not going to work, I don't see in my head how a wallet with money coming out of it would look good as a doubleshot.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:54:29
Quote from: Ragnorock;517963
Yeah I may have been still a little groggy when I mulled that over. Its probably not going to work, I don't see in my head how a wallet with money coming out of it would look good as a doubleshot.

Now we're on the same page :P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:57:43
Whatever happened to the phantom doubleshot idea?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:00:36
Quote from: demik;517971
Whatever happened to the phantom doubleshot idea?

Not enough interest ._.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:02:58
That sucks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jil_jil32 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:04:07
Phantom double shot? The keycap with the Phantom Mask logo? I'll be in for 5 :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:08:48
ragnarok
1x keyset

country: USA, california
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:09:39
I'm still amazed anybody would take my suggestions seriously.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dreamingftw on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:10:03
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: California, USA
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:17:50
i would prefer no windows logo, but whatever. i'm also a firm believer in KISS
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: telepete on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:18:21
Quote from: demik;517971
Whatever happened to the phantom doubleshot idea?

I think I ordered mine thru gb4. So to answer your question, there won't be any.

Sent from my LT15a using Tapatalk
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:21:49
The phantom mask would looks silly in red, jus sayin'.

But yeah we'll just go with a diamond instead of the windows key and the normal menu key that goes next to it on the right side.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:25:32
These prices are win. Ill be placing my order once I figure out what my friend and I need.

Super/diamond/Meta over standard legends tho...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:26:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;518001
The phantom mask would looks silly in red, jus sayin'.

But yeah we'll just go with a diamond instead of the windows key and the normal menu key that goes next to it on the right side.
Looks funny in my head is it just me? because the menu keys is more complex, could look nice though

You could go, diamond for the 2 win keys and circle for the menu key, or meta/super, I think any of those would fit better since the menu key would be out of place without it's window brother
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:28:35
Quote from: telepete;517999
I think I ordered mine thru gb4. So to answer your question, there won't be any.

Sent from my LT15a using Tapatalk

I was waiting for somebody to mention it being in round 4 so I could make a joke about it never happening (aka beating a dead horse) but tsangan shot down my dreams of being a comedian by giving me a straight answer lol.

Wait I'm confused, I thought the diamond key was specifically for the phantom kit since its a 1x key that could be programmed for anything? Thought we would still be going for a normal windows/menu kit for the base kit?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rourouni815 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:29:28
ragnarok
1x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:29:46
Are we deciding diamond for the base set or just phantom? Am I the only one who prefers super/diamond/Meta for the base sets? Normal legends are boring.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:29:53
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

OK fine, tsangan convinced me to get a Phantom kit... :poundit:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:38:23
Quote from: DanGWanG;518015
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

OK fine, tsangan convinced me to get a Phantom kit... :poundit:
Fist bump!! :cool:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:49:06
If I read OP correctly, what you're saying is that if it reaches 50 keysets, you have the discretion of whether or not to give us the discount to $52/set?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:50:21
Quote from: elton5354;518032
If I read OP correctly, what you're saying is that if it reaches 50 keysets, you have the discretion of whether or not to give us the discount to $52/set?

This was answered extensively above.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:54:15
Quote from: elton5354;518032
If I read OP correctly, what you're saying is that if it reaches 50 keysets, you have the discretion of whether or not to give us the discount to $52/set?

tl;dr - whatever quantity is ordered by the public is where the public price tier lands.  What happens behind the scenes is not your problem but it is public knowledge if you give a damn.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 15:07:35
Quote from: tsangan;518008
Looks funny in my head is it just me? because the menu keys is more complex, could look nice though

You could go, diamond for the 2 win keys and circle for the menu key, or meta/super, I think any of those would fit better since the menu key would be out of place without it's window brother


Yeah good point, its still up for discussion, I will go with whatever the majority wants. I have plenty of sc2/triforce/japan/crossbone keys to keep my mods occupied.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sat, 18 February 2012, 15:12:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;518054
sc2/triforce/japan/crossbone keys to keep my mods occupied.

Nah, just include all these in MY order when it ships!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Sat, 18 February 2012, 15:27:35
here we go again

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Personally i wouldn't want a circle for the menu key, and i'd leave the windows normal myself just because of tradition, but i'll go with a Diamond
I'd prob stick a triforce key there anyway lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Soulpyre on Sat, 18 February 2012, 15:33:53
Diamond for windows, and regular menu key is fine with me. Personally I'm used to the Windows key.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zwi on Sat, 18 February 2012, 16:03:17
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 16:19:08
I take back what I said about the tenkeypad add-on, a lot of people like them :behindsofa:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Sat, 18 February 2012, 16:45:28
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: US
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 18 February 2012, 17:37:19
Ragnarok
 1x Keyset
 
Phantom
 1x Keyset
 
Country: US
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 18 February 2012, 17:55:00
Rag, I posted link to this thread on the Phantom threads and my acrylic case threads on GH and DT.  I hope they will bring more orders here.  I think this set is going to look pretty good with my black+red acrylic cases.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 18 February 2012, 17:56:59
Quote from: litster;518175
Rag, I posted link to this thread on the Phantom threads and my acrylic case threads on GH and DT.  I hope they will bring more orders here.  I think this set is going to look pretty good with my black+red acrylic cases.

Yesssssss!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gridlock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 18:00:33
1x Ragnarok keyset
Canada
Pm'd ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Swede on Sat, 18 February 2012, 18:04:33
1x Phantom ISO

Just saying that I'm willing to pay extra if 15 orders aren't met ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 18:13:06
Quote from: litster;518175
Rag, I posted link to this thread on the Phantom threads and my acrylic case threads on GH and DT.  I hope they will bring more orders here.  I think this set is going to look pretty good with my black+red acrylic cases.


The holy trinity!

Phantom + black/red case + this set

Cannot wait!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Sat, 18 February 2012, 18:20:30
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: Spain
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jellowiggler on Sat, 18 February 2012, 18:29:17
Not ordering but the original post should be model for how people should run a buy.

Good luck and good job!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bavman on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:19:28
I'd prefer windows over diamond/menu.
Super/Meta is good too
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:35:40
Quote from: litster;518175
Rag, I posted link to this thread on the Phantom threads and my acrylic case threads on GH and DT.  I hope they will bring more orders here.  I think this set is going to look pretty good with my black+red acrylic cases.
Does that acrylic case fit tkl leos? Its probably just for phantoms but if not I might want one lol.

And thanks Litster, much appreciated!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Changdrew on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:37:13
in4 1 Ragnarok set :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:38:30
Quote from: Ragnorock;518236
Does that acrylic case fit tkl leos? Its probably just for phantoms but if not I might want one lol.

And thanks Litster, much appreciated!

It going to fit Filcos so I don't think it fit Leopolds but Litster will have to confirm
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:41:51
I designed it to work with both Filco and Phantom.  I don't have a Leopold tenkeyless to verify, so I can't say that it works with Leopold.  Leopold has a removable USB cable, right?  It could be a problem if there are extra parts under the PCB that is different than Filco.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:46:38
SP's diamond 1.25x modifier mold is slightly off-center.  Just sayin.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:54:13
I'll jump in soon. I'm gonna ask others to join in as well.
Nice groupbuy. Hope we can get to 100!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:54:29
I would still love to confirm that the spacebar is in fact going to fit the Leopolds; Also, probably going to be paying in cash for this one again.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 18 February 2012, 19:59:02
Quote from: RColinTaylor;518249
I would still love to confirm that the spacebar is in fact going to fit the Leopolds; Also, probably going to be paying in cash for this one again.


You might have missed Rag's reply:

Quote from: RColinTaylor;517649
You are making sure to include the Filco+Leopold combination spacebar, correct?


Quote from: Ragnorock;517933
Of course!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 20:03:36
Quote from: soulfree914;518247
I'll jump in soon. I'm gonna ask others to join in as well.
Nice groupbuy. Hope we can get to 100!

Those 1x and 1.5x modifiers probably sparked your interest!!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 20:04:26
it fits leopolds, if they are using the same molds that they used for the pbt dye sub set.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 20:19:01
Quote from: tsangan;518254
Those 1x and 1.5x modifiers probably sparked your interest!!!!

For sure! Most keyboards that I have are window-key-less. :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Laggy-gaga on Sat, 18 February 2012, 20:27:31
Ragnarok
1x Keyset - 1

Australia
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sat, 18 February 2012, 20:40:44
Quote from: litster;518251
You might have missed Rag's reply:


You caught me skimming, sir. Thank you for that clarification.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 18 February 2012, 21:26:29
Rag, you got a tally count of each so far? Page 7 in 1 day looks pretty good.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: telepete on Sat, 18 February 2012, 21:34:11
Ragnarok x1

Phantom x1

PM'd
Thanks Ragnarok! Great job.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 18 February 2012, 21:36:27
Quote from: soulfree914;518259
For sure! Most keyboards that I have are window-key-less. :-)

Win-key-less is the way to go :thumb:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 18 February 2012, 21:49:36
I made it halfway through my pms before I got sidetracked with family stuff. Will post a list tomorrow.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:09:20
Didn't realize there was so much money to be made in a group buy. Not saying you don't deserve it. Gotta see if I have the funds want to get in on this.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:15:16
Quote from: lightsout714;518344
Didn't realize there was so much money to be made in a group buy. Not saying you don't deserve it. Gotta see if I have the funds want to get in on this.

You want it.

You know you want it.

Join us, damn it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: xbb on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:20:05
What kind of font is going to be used?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:23:02
Quote from: demik;518351
You want it.

You know you want it.

Join us, damn it.

Lol I probably will. But if rd4 ends soon (lol) I have a set I prefer from there. But hopefully that lags and I just do both :p
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:28:04
Quote from: lightsout714;518344
Didn't realize there was so much money to be made in a group buy. Not saying you don't deserve it. Gotta see if I have the funds want to get in on this.

You mean the person running it? Or people reselling after the GB?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:28:15
Quote from: lightsout714;518362
Lol I probably will. But if rd4 ends soon (lol) I have a set I prefer from there. But hopefully that lags and I just do both :p

This + cream cheese and green will ship before round 4
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 18 February 2012, 22:34:42
Quote from: hazeluff;518373
You mean the person running it? Or people reselling after the GB?
The person running it.
Quote from: demik;518374
This + cream cheese and green will ship before round 4

I agree.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Sun, 19 February 2012, 00:18:01
Order placed for 2x Rag sets, cheers!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 19 February 2012, 00:32:42
Quote from: demik;518374
This + cream cheese and green will ship before round 4
the hilarious thing is that they're running in series

lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 00:53:09
Quote from: xbb;518359
What kind of font is going to be used?

good question, no Ariel please. SP has like 5 or 6 fonts that doesn't cost anything.

I'm an fan of the Wyse font but dunno what rag wants
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Marclgw on Sun, 19 February 2012, 00:54:13
Hey Rag, will there be an order count on your first post?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sun, 19 February 2012, 00:58:42
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;518296
Rag, you got a tally count of each so far? Page 7 in 1 day looks pretty good.

Quote from: Ragnorock;518319
I made it halfway through my pms before I got sidetracked with family stuff. Will post a list tomorrow.

I think he'll update it tomorrow.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 01:36:51
Quote from: tsangan;518440
good question, no Ariel please. SP has like 5 or 6 fonts that doesn't cost anything.

I'm an fan of the Wyse font but dunno what rag wants

Co-sign on the wyse font
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 01:51:15
Quote from: demik;518458
Co-sign on the wyse font

Third!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 19 February 2012, 01:51:47
Quote from: demik;518458
Co-sign on the wyse font

Quote from: litster;518463
Third!

Fourth.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:01:42
I asked for an image of her font and she sent me this:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41059[/ATTACH]
She said it was from the pre computer era, I'm assuming typewriters. If this is WYSE great, because I don't have to figure it out with her but if not I will. I don't mind this font, but I'm curious as to what this WYSE **** is. Pics would be appreciated. I will update the list tomorrow, and Lightsoul714 not everyone is cut out to run a group buy, if you can do it well it can be worthwhile, but there have been more failures than successes and it requires a lot more time and effort than you generally imagine it does. Its a job, not a free check. This group buy is going to be a very small check too lol.

Anyways I'm out for the night, expect me to finish recording orders and responding to PMs tomorrow. Those wondering why their PM hasn't been replied to yet should probably just chill. This just started and it isn't going anywhere.

Edit: Lol after reading all the question PMs (Works great if you put "question" in the title somewhere so I know its a question and not an order) I still have 26 unread PMs after inputting like 11 orders earlier. Not bad for day 1.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:18:56
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2s6oei1.jpg)

left to right: Thick Wyse Doubleshot, Thin (SP made?) Wyse Doubleshot, SP GrabBag Doubleshot.

looks to be the same font.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:19:56
Ragnarok
2x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

Order PM sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tea_rum on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:22:01
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Singapore
Will f/u with PM
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zwi on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:24:21
Just counted ~41 Ragnarok, ~11 Phantom, ~10 104, and ~2 ISO from whats been posted
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:28:44
Quote from: demik;518474
Show Image
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2s6oei1.jpg)


left to right: Thick Wyse Doubleshot, Thin (SP made?) Wyse Doubleshot, SP GrabBag Doubleshot.

looks to be the same font.

So we're good with that I have then? Sweet. Yea those look good to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:29:58
Thumbs up from me!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:30:54
Quote from: tsangan;517714
Diamond over win key!

+1

And +2 on the big, centered, WYSE font!  :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:33:06
No, not centered. Left hand corner.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:33:37
Yeah, it isn't going to be centered, it will look just like those keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:36:55
Rag, on the shift keys, will the arrow be on the left side as normal or on the right like in the mock up?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:37:42
Btw everyone, this is my current situation at the moment:
>12:36 AM
>7% battery life on the laptop
>Brought my BX8as home with me to see how loud they actually are when I don't have to worry about disturbing my neighbors.
>Dubstep playlist cranked
>Extremely runny nose and semi conscious state
>Staring at this group buy going lololol because 7bit was saying I would have trouble hitting 25 unless I offered ____ ____ and _____


Dubstep coma incoming. >.>

Edit: It will be on the normal side. I got lazy with the pshopping because its just a mockup.

PS:
~~~~~ The lights are blinding my eyes ~~~~~~
~~~~~ The people pushing by~~~~~
~~~~~ They're walking off into the night~~~~~
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:49:29
Here is a picture of one of my Wyse sets, minus the front row.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41060&d=1329641261)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Sun, 19 February 2012, 02:52:54
Quote from: demik;518485
No, not centered. Left hand corner.

Ah. Right. I can't have everything my way. ;-P. What I'm seeing here, called WYSE, looks good.  I want that keyboard litster!  :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Sun, 19 February 2012, 07:47:17
Ragnarok
2x Keyset

104
2x Keyset

ISO
2x Keyset

Country: Germany

Let's get the ISO **** rolling! ;D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: FourOhFour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 07:58:45
Quote from: Ragnorock;518469
I asked for an image of her font and she sent me this:
(Attachment) 41059[/ATTACH]

I think that pic is showing two fonts... look at the numpad 4 on the 5th row and F4 on the first row and the big 4 on the third. Also, the bottom three rows are thinner (or maybe just darker) than the top three. The 4 towards the bottom looks like WYSE to me, but the ones towards the top don't.

Another vote for WYSE, btw.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 February 2012, 09:37:59
Quote from: Ragnorock;518480
So we're good with that I have then? Sweet. Yea those look good to me.

While I think WYSE looks really sharp (especially compared with ariel) I'm sort-of curious as to which other fonts SP has. Maybe there's another really good one?

Thanks for the pic, Demik. It wasn't showing up for me before.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 09:51:45
Quote from: Ragnorock;518469
and Lightsoul714 not everyone is cut out to run a group buy, if you can do it well it can be worthwhile, but there have been more failures than successes and it requires a lot more time and effort than you generally imagine it does. Its a job, not a free check. This group buy is going to be a very small check too lol.



I understand and have no issues with how your doing it. It looks like a ton of work and I always thought people should be getting compensated but wasn't sure how it worked out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 09:56:03
Quote from: lightsout714;518611
I understand and have no issues with how your doing it. It looks like a ton of work and I always thought people should be getting compensated but wasn't sure how it worked out.

Either adding a small "tip" onto the shipping + handling. Or selling some extras at the end. Anyway Its not very profitable. But, I really like purdy keycaps and that's totally worth running the GB.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:24:03
Quote from: hazeluff;518617
Either adding a small "tip" onto the shipping + handling. Or selling some extras at the end. Anyway Its not very profitable. But, I really like purdy keycaps and that's totally worth running the GB.

It sounds like Ragnarok has made some decent cash. Which is great because its incentive for people to keep getting us sweet keycaps. Its win win.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:30:14
Decent is a matter of perspective.  He hasn't made enough for me to want to bother doing it myself :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:42:04
Yeah the only real money is in selling leftovers, but with full keysets it is very expensive and risky to buy enough extras to make a significant profit. Even with single keys you can run out of buyers, I still have a couple zerg mod keys and about ten or so random keys that haven't sold. I'm too busy atm to list them elsewhere so there they sit in my drawer.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:51:07
Quote from: ripster;518648
Do it like Ebay.

$1 key.

$18 shipping and handling.

For real lol.

Hey so whats an estimate for Sp to complete a GB like this.  I saw on the novelty GB it was estimated at 6 weeks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:52:03
Quote from: lightsout714;518656
For real lol.

Hey so whats an estimate for Sp to complete a GB like this.  I saw on the novelty GB it was estimated at 6 weeks.

Usual turn around time is 5 weeks
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:53:01
Should be the same
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 10:59:26
Could be shorter now that holiday demand is done, I'm thinking a month or less since it is so standard. I don't get the real estimate until I put the order in though. I'm surprised at how many orders we have already, so if we get to like 75+ and it starts to stall out, I may get it going sooner so I can collect money and get the order in even faster than initially planned.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 11:03:46
Thanks for the quick replies guys. I think I have given up hope on Rd.4
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: delgo on Sun, 19 February 2012, 11:35:17
the Phantom kit should be compatible with the http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Phantom_7BIT_002.png (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Phantom_7BIT_002.png) imo, the point of its layout is to get rid of the old fashioned long spacebar, right?

Or make a hybrid Phantom set compatible with either the layout posted in my pic and the more common layout with the long spacebar? Should't be too expensive I think..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 11:40:15
Quote from: delgo;518719
the Phantom kit should be compatible with the http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Phantom_7BIT_002.png (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Phantom_7BIT_002.png) imo, the point of its layout is to get rid of the old fashioned long spacebar, right?

Or make a hybrid Phantom set compatible with either the layout posted in my pic and the more common layout with the long spacebar? Should't be too expensive I think..
That layout requires A LOT of 1.25 Row 4 modifiers, besides those, left shift, enter, backspace, function row are all different

The current add on key is targeted to winkeyless keyboards such as Phantom 1.5x modifiers, Dox, any winkeyless boards, and Cherry 1800 boards
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 11:59:58
I gave Rag a hard time last time, but he has been very transparent on the process and money he makes.  Running a group buy is not easy work and involve risks.  I appreciate Ragnorock's effort to bring us some nice keycaps.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dirge on Sun, 19 February 2012, 12:07:39
Quote from: litster;518748
I gave Rag a hard time last time, but he has been very transparent on the process and money he makes.  Running a group buy is not easy work and involve risks.  I appreciate Ragnorock's effort to bring us some nice keycaps.

Yeah, quite happy for money to go to the people who do the work!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mark0331 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 12:29:07
1 x Ragnarok
1 x 104

PM Sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 12:35:04
Quote from: delgo;518719
the Phantom kit should be compatible with the http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Phantom_7BIT_002.png (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Phantom_7BIT_002.png) imo, the point of its layout is to get rid of the old fashioned long spacebar, right?

I thought that layout was being referred to as the 7bit layout and not the Phantom layout?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 12:36:02
Quote from: metafour;518783
I thought that layout was being referred to as the 7bit layout and not the Phantom layout?

That is indeed 7bit's super wacky layout
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: feng on Sun, 19 February 2012, 12:37:04
Ragnarok
3x Keyset

104
2x Keyset
 
Country: US

PM sent. Thanks for doing this GB!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 12:40:11
Quote from: feng;518786
Ragnarok
3x Keyset

104
2x Keyset
 
Country: US

PM sent. Thanks for doing this GB!
Get with the times feng and get some winkeyless add-on!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:19:28
First post updated and all PMs read and tallied. Questions have been responded to. If you do not see your name on the list, as I suspect some are still only posting in the thread, then be sure to send me a PM!

Already at 48 base set orders lol. ISO needs to step it up but we should have no problem at least getting to 15. I will have additional information on Tuesday when Melissa gets back in the office. ISO prices, and some revisions on Phantom. Turns out Tsangan realized that the Phantom add on is 11 keys and not 9, so we need to revise the pricing for them. Shouldn't make a significant difference in the price though, its just 2 1x keys. Here is his handy little mockup:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41105[/ATTACH]
I'm not sure if this applies to all phantom buyers but it gives a good idea what the keys you will be getting are, aside from colors of course.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:19:52
I just posted the info on the biggest gaming comunity @ Spain more than 2000 users online usually.
Maybe if people show interest we will buy a nice pack.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:20:25
Quote from: korne;518913
I just posted the info on the biggest gaming comunity @ Spain more than 2000 users online usually.
Maybe if people show interest we will buy a nice pack.

Coolio, thanks!

Also I think I figured out a workable route for the mod keys:

Since the Phantom keyboard is doing its own shapes (Diamond, Star) we will probably just go with the windows and menu keys in the base set, keeping it completely standard. As much as I dislike windows, it seems like that will keep others from getting upset and avoid any cutting fees.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:26:44
Bummer you have to pay for the phantom to get the stepped capslock.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:28:40
Quote from: lightsout714;518923
Bummer you have to pay for the phantom to get the stepped capslock.

Think of it as an add-on kit for your future keyboards :thumb:

I think we can hit 75 sets, that would be awesome. Only $7 difference between 50 and 75 tier, and I expected to hit 50 anyways so I'm happy with the turn out :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:31:56
Quote from: tsangan;518924
Think of it as an add-on kit for your future keyboards :thumb:

I think we can hit 75 sets, that would be awesome. Only $7 difference between 50 and 75 tier, and I expected to hit 50 anyways so I'm happy with the turn out :)

But I don't see myself needing those other caps.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:35:49
Yeah now that we have pretty much already hit 50, I'm good to go on counts if we can get at least 15 and hopefully 25 on most of the add ons. The discounts really don't accumulate to much after 50 and especially 75.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:43:34
Quote from: lightsout714;518930
But I don't see myself needing those other caps.

but when you do, it'll suck not having them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 15:46:07
Quote from: demik;518941
but when you do, it'll suck not having them.

QFE
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 19 February 2012, 16:13:02
At the end of the day the reality sets that, when it comes time to sell off this set to replace it with the Clickclack full set in 2013 it will be significantly easier to do so with the add-ons.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 16:37:05
I'm not rich like most of you guys here. :-(
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biochem on Sun, 19 February 2012, 16:38:18
1x Ragnarok
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jinzo.pk3 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 16:53:37
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: AU
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 17:14:27
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

USA
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 17:21:15
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Canada
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Sun, 19 February 2012, 17:44:02
Quote from: Ragnorock;518936
Yeah now that we have pretty much already hit 50, I'm good to go on counts if we can get at least 15 and hopefully 25 on most of the add ons. The discounts really don't accumulate to much after 50 and especially 75.

Awesome. A "keep it simple" GB is better and more likely to be a success.

Hopefully the 104 add on hits 25.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 17:47:42
Quote from: Ragnorock;518915
Since the Phantom keyboard is doing its own shapes (Diamond, Star) we will probably just go with the windows and menu keys in the base set, keeping it completely standard. As much as I dislike windows, it seems like that will keep others from getting upset and avoid any cutting fees.


Crap, now I'm going to have to find a set of replacement modifiers. =\
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 19 February 2012, 17:51:21
Hey I'm not on the list in the OP and I posted my order on the first page. Must have forgot to send you the PM, so sending another PM right now.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:00:51
Quote from: Ragnorock;518912
Turns out Tsangan realized that the Phantom add on is 11 keys and not 9, so we need to revise the pricing for them. Shouldn't make a significant difference in the price though, its just 2 1x keys. Here is his handy little mockup:

(Attachment) 41105[/ATTACH]
I'm not sure if this applies to all phantom buyers but it gives a good idea what the keys you will be getting are, aside from colors of course.
Wait there must be something I'm missing here. The Phantom layout/plate can't hold a space bar because you can't put stabilizers on there. The whole bottom row is filled with x1 and x1.5 size caps, so I counted more than 11 additional keys are needed to be added. Why is there an extra x7 size space bar? Here is the Phantom layout:

http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=38570&d=1327539437
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:00:53
I have to think that keeping the set "original" with the menu and Windows keys instead of specialized modifiers will make things easier.  I won't use the standard modifiers but I would not really consider the set complete without them included as part of the base.  I have lots of other novelty modifiers and if I want the extra modifiers for this set I'll buy them.  And I'm thinking I might...  D*mnit!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: FourOhFour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:05:50
Quote from: Ragnorock;517646
All of these will ship in the Priority flat rate boxes, which is what these rates are based off of. Seriously the flat rate international small box rate is now $17. I lost money on the orders that paid $15 last time. I normally pad the shipping rates by a buck or two in case this happens but this is not the case with international anymore as it is expensive enough already. I am not happy about this either but unless I can find an affordable substitute for boxes before I start collecting money these are the prices. Boxes are much more expensive to buy, so I'm going to take a look at various options but don't expect them to magically go down 10 dollars in price.
You can use the non-flat-rate Priority Mail boxes for int'l, which are free from the post office or usps.com. Don't know if doing priority mail by weight is any cheaper than the flat rate for int'l, though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:06:03
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519015
Wait there must be something I'm missing here. The Phantom layout/plate can't hold a space bar because you can't put stabilizers on there. The whole bottom row is filled with x1 and x1.5 size caps, so I counted more than 11 additional keys are needed to be added. Why is there an extra x7 size space bar? Here is the Phantom layout:

http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=38570&d=1327539437

That's the 7bit layout. Phantom comes in 3 lay outs. Normal "modern" layout with 1.25 mods, winkeyless with 1.5 mods and 7bit, the one you described.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:08:25
Quote from: demik;519020
That's the 7bit layout. Phantom comes in 3 lay outs. Normal "modern" layout with 1.25 mods, winkeyless with 1.5 mods and 7bit, the one you described.

How could you forget about our ISO brothers and their two layouts!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:11:23
Mostly speaking of the mods part
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:13:26
Quote from: FourOhFour;519019
You can use the non-flat-rate Priority Mail boxes for int'l, which are free from the post office or usps.com. Don't know if doing priority mail by weight is any cheaper than the flat rate for int'l, though.

The non flat rate boxes are not free, they cost like $3 each. Not viable. They will send you flat rate boxes for free because it is built into the rates they charge for flat rate, but their standard stuff you have to buy a readypost box for it and they are marked up a great deal as well because USPS is desperately trying to find ways to stay in business.

I'm trying to figure out options, I don't like how expensive it has become either, especially for international shipments. High shipping prices help nobody but the carrier.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:15:08
Order more Phantoms :cheer2:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:15:19
Quote from: Ragnorock;519026
The non flat rate boxes are not free, they cost like $3 each. Not viable. They will send you flat rate boxes for free because it is built into the rates they charge for flat rate, but their standard stuff you have to buy a readypost box for it and they are marked up a great deal as well because USPS is desperately trying to find ways to stay in business.

I'm trying to figure out options, I don't like how expensive it has become either, especially for international shipments. High shipping prices help nobody but the carrier.

The best way that I found was to have it shipped in bulk to a second distributor and then shipped within the region itself by that person.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:19:40
I would prefer not to do that, there aren't enough within certain regions to justify it. If we had like 10 people from Australia maybe, but even then it adds a whole different level of uncertainty for me. If one of those sets goes missing, I am responsible, even though I know that when I shipped it out it was completely correct and intact. Not saying that I don't trust the other members of the community, but if I do everything myself I know it has been done exactly how I want it and I have nothing to worry about except my own mistakes, which I am fine with being accountable for.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:23:31
Quote from: demik;519020
That's the 7bit layout. Phantom comes in 3 lay outs. Normal "modern" layout with 1.25 mods, winkeyless with 1.5 mods and 7bit, the one you described.
Yeah you're right, I guess I was specifically asking about the 7bit layout. But that also means we can't get any set in here that will accommodate to the phantom 7bit layout.

I still don't understand this extra Phantom kit though. Show me a plate from the Phantom GB that can hold the x1 star cap on the right of the right Shift cap. Here are all the plates, and none of them have that extra key to the right of the right Shift, except the 7bit layout.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Group_Buy#Pricelist
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:23:42
In for 1 ragnarock set

Thanks

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:24:15
I know that about 5 different mini-shipping consortium popped up for the Novelty buy; the largest being a group form Malaysia. People were more than willing to put the responsibility on the connecting party.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:27:04
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519034
Yeah you're right, I guess I was specifically asking about the 7bit layout. But that also means we can't get any set in here that will accommodate to the phantom 7bit layout.

I still don't understand this extra Phantom kit though. Show me a plate from the Phantom GB that can hold the x1 star cap on the right of the right Shift cap. Here are all the plates, and none of them have that extra key to the right of the right Shift, except the 7bit layout.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Group_Buy#Pricelist

You probably want to get some of the Round 4 keys for that layout? I'm really not sure how all of that works since I'm just going off of what Tsangan and Demik tell me Phantom needs.


Quote from: RColinTaylor;519036
I know that about 5 different mini-shipping consortium popped up for the Novelty buy; the largest being a group form Malaysia. People were more than willing to put the responsibility on the connecting party.

Its just a question of security, a friend offered to do the sorting and shipping for me for a fee, but I told him no mostly because even though he is one of my closest friends, I just don't want to be forced into entrusting someone else with everyone on here's keycaps. That and it hurts the margins even more lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 18:37:24
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519034
Yeah you're right, I guess I was specifically asking about the 7bit layout. But that also means we can't get any set in here that will accommodate to the phantom 7bit layout.

I still don't understand this extra Phantom kit though. Show me a plate from the Phantom GB that can hold the x1 star cap on the right of the right Shift cap. Here are all the plates, and none of them have that extra key to the right of the right Shift, except the 7bit layout.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Group_Buy#Pricelist

It's not strictly for phantom only. Tsangan incorporated Dox keyboard and another cherry board. It's just pure phantom by name.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:09:16
Quote from: demik;519047
It's not strictly for phantom only. Tsangan incorporated Dox keyboard and another cherry board. It's just pure phantom by name.
Ah if it's not for phantom only, maybe Ragnorock should be clear about this in the OP. All that's mentioned is that it's "compatible with the Phantom keyboard", no mentions of any other layouts.

I attached an edited pic to show what I mean. For all phantom layouts (except 7bit layout, which is not even possible with this GB), the 3 green top right keys are completely useless. The diamond is in the same place as the "?" key, the right shift x1.75 is too small to fit any of the phantom layouts, and there is no room for the top star on the right of the shift key. The only thing this "Phantom kit" is good for in the Phantom GB is the four x1.5 sized modifiers, 2 x1 size in between them, and the x7 size spacebar. And even then, this is ONLY good for the "PHANSI150" and "PHISO150" plates. If you ordered any of the other 5 plates, this kit is completely useless.

Now if I'm missing something here, please correct me. I was about to order the "phantom kit" also, but I realized it's not even compatible with both the Phantom plates I ordered from the other GB.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom.png)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:20:40
those three keys were most likely designed to match a proposed dox layout (but keep in mind the dox layouts are not final yet). actually, maybe that's for the 356cl?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:25:41
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519073
Ah if it's not for phantom only, maybe Ragnorock should be clear about this in the OP. All that's mentioned is that it's "compatible with the Phantom keyboard", no mentions of any other layouts.

I attached an edited pic to show what I mean. For all phantom layouts (except 7bit layout, which is not even possible with this GB), the 3 green top right keys are completely useless. The diamond is in the same place as the "?" key, the right shift x1.75 is too small to fit any of the phantom layouts, and there is no room for the top star on the right of the shift key. The only thing this "Phantom kit" is good for in the Phantom GB is the four x1.5 sized modifiers, 2 x1 size in between them, and the x7 size spacebar. And even then, this is ONLY good for the "PHANSI150" and "PHISO150" plates. If you ordered any of the other 5 plates, this kit is completely useless.

Now if I'm missing something here, please correct me. I was about to order the "phantom kit" also, but I realized it's not even compatible with both the Phantom plates I ordered from the other GB.

Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom.png)


from tsangan's gb

Quote
11key add-on set, for Phantom, DOX, Cherry 1800, DK Saver, 356CL and many more!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Phil21 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:26:56
In for a 104 set + Phantom for the heck of it.

Thanks!

Ragnarock
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: FourOhFour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:28:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;519026
The non flat rate boxes are not free, they cost like $3 each.


Nope, there are non-flat-rate Priority Mail branded boxes. They're usually on the back side of the display in the post office. (Or, if your post office is like mine, the empty spots in the display where they belong are on the back side, against the wall... *sigh*) You do need to use Priority Mail postage, just not the flat rate... so it may not be any cheaper.

8x12x12 (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_O_BOX7&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
11 1/2 x 13 5/8 x 2 3/8 (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_O_1097&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
15 1/4 x 12 3/8 x 3 (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_O_1095&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
9 1/4 x 6 1/4 x 2 (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_O_1095&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
12 1/8 x 13 3/8 x 2 3/4 (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_O_1092&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
DVD case sized (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_ODVDS&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
7 1/2 x 5 1/8 x 14 3/8 (https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=jump&navCount=0&productId=P_0_SHOEBOX&categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:30:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;519026
The non flat rate boxes are not free, they cost like $3 each. Not viable.


No idea where you're getting that idea from. I've gotten hundreds of boxes delivered fo free. Never paid a cent.
https://store.usps.com/store/browse/subcategory.jsp?categoryId=subcatMSS_PriorityMail&categoryNavIds=catGetMailingShippingSupplies%3AsubcatMSS_PriorityMail

edit loltoolate
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:32:25
Why are there no bubble mailers offered? That would cut the shipping cost in half.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:34:35
Quote from: elton5354;519091
Why are there no bubble mailers offered? That would cut the shipping cost in half.

Damaged keys?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:36:33
I don't think the keys would all comfortably sit into a bubble mailer.

I hope we do end up finding a slightly cheaper alternative to international shipping in these free boxes! If I was in the US, I would get some just to store some of my own personal stuff in haha.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:37:10
Quote from: elton5354;519091
Why are there no bubble mailers offered? That would cut the shipping cost in half.

Because the number of keys won't fit. I had problems fitting Nyansets in them, let alone full 104 sets.

Snowboarder that link leads to where I get my boxes from, but notice how the vast majority of those boxes say flat rate or regional rate? I am not saying that you are wrong but if anything I'm just going to go down to my post office and see what they say about it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 19:42:50
Oh, aren't there large/extra large ones like here in Canada?

http://www.canadapost.ca/shop/personal/mailing-amp-shipping-supplies/cushion-envelopes/cushion-envelope-large/p-242666.jsf?execution=e1s1
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 20:46:06
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519073
Ah if it's not for phantom only, maybe Ragnorock should be clear about this in the OP. All that's mentioned is that it's "compatible with the Phantom keyboard", no mentions of any other layouts.

I attached an edited pic to show what I mean. For all phantom layouts (except 7bit layout, which is not even possible with this GB), the 3 green top right keys are completely useless. The diamond is in the same place as the "?" key, the right shift x1.75 is too small to fit any of the phantom layouts, and there is no room for the top star on the right of the shift key. The only thing this "Phantom kit" is good for in the Phantom GB is the four x1.5 sized modifiers, 2 x1 size in between them, and the x7 size spacebar. And even then, this is ONLY good for the "PHANSI150" and "PHISO150" plates. If you ordered any of the other 5 plates, this kit is completely useless.

Now if I'm missing something here, please correct me. I was about to order the "phantom kit" also, but I realized it's not even compatible with both the Phantom plates I ordered from the other GB.


I put the diamond and star there just cos I needed to put it somewhere, the idea was that you get two diamonds and two stars, and you can do w/e the hell you want with it. It helps the Choc mini grp as there are 3 single width keys on the mod row.

And the 1.75x shift fits the phantom layouts on the right side (PH7BIT plate).

What it's missing is a 1.25x shift. for the left side.

Anyway I think tsangan was catering mainly to the people with the weird 1.5x mods and the stepped capslock. I'm not sure about fitting for phantom/iso 100%.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 19 February 2012, 20:53:08
Hot damn...55 sets already!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:02:42
Is there word on the pricing for the Phantom addon yet? I'd like a stepped capslock but am not going to pay a fortune for the one key like the vimcaps in Round 4. One of the styles is $20 for literally one key.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:03:59
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519073
Ah if it's not for phantom only, maybe Ragnorock should be clear about this in the OP. All that's mentioned is that it's "compatible with the Phantom keyboard", no mentions of any other layouts.

I attached an edited pic to show what I mean. For all phantom layouts (except 7bit layout, which is not even possible with this GB), the 3 green top right keys are completely useless. The diamond is in the same place as the "?" key, the right shift x1.75 is too small to fit any of the phantom layouts, and there is no room for the top star on the right of the shift key. The only thing this "Phantom kit" is good for in the Phantom GB is the four x1.5 sized modifiers, 2 x1 size in between them, and the x7 size spacebar. And even then, this is ONLY good for the "PHANSI150" and "PHISO150" plates. If you ordered any of the other 5 plates, this kit is completely useless.

Now if I'm missing something here, please correct me. I was about to order the "phantom kit" also, but I realized it's not even compatible with both the Phantom plates I ordered from the other GB.

Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/Phantom.png)
Just to clarify a bit more this is ment as a add-on kit and not strictly for Phantom but more for a bunch of keyboards that can use these few keys to make the set work for example, the picture itself is just to show an example of the keys and their row and not necessary that's the spot they will be going in.

Stepped caps - no need for explanation
1.5x modifer - for winkeyless keyboards
1x modifer - for winkeyless keyboards, Fn key beside the shift and also many other boards such as Choc Mini, there are 4 keys because besides the space between alt and control a lot of keyboards require more 1x keys
1800 shift - for Cherry 1800, Dox, and I believe the Phantom can incorporate this also which will allow an extra 1x key beside it, similar to HHKB/Pure

This add on kit hits A LOT of keyboards out there that have a few funky keys here and there.

While the 7bit layout is very intesnse, there are many 1.25 modifers, small enter, small backspace, tiny shift, and HUGE function row keys, there is no way to incorporate that into this multi purpose set as the 7bit add on requires far too many keys by itself.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:06:15
Quote from: metafour;519148
Is there word on the pricing for the Phantom addon yet? I'd like a stepped capslock but am not going to pay a fortune for the one key like the vimcaps in Round 4. One of the styles is $20 for literally one key.

it's right on the first page

Phantom

15 keysets    $31.00
25 keysets    $21.00
50 keysets    $13.00
75 keysets    $10.00
100 keysets $9.00
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:07:25
Quote from: demik;519152
it's right on the first page

Phantom

15 keysets    $31.00
25 keysets    $21.00
50 keysets    $13.00
75 keysets    $10.00
100 keysets $9.00

**** I'm blind. I totally skimmed over it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:08:20
Wow, 55 orders already ... I hope this doesn't doom tsangan's cream cheese set.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:09:29
People might be thinking not to spend the little extra on this add-on kit but you really have to see the versatility on this kit

If you're looking to get a Pure, this add on kit is required, Winkeyless Phantom this kit is required, Cherry 1800 this kit is required, Dox this kit is required, Choc Mini this set is required, and a lot more custom keyboards out there!


Quote from: hashbaz;519157
Wow, 55 orders already ... I hope this doesn't doom tsangan's cream cheese set.
Nah don't think so as long as we don't do it at the same time it's fine and I spoke with Rag and we decided that to do this set first so A. people's wallet can rest and B. I can rest.

I have people PMing asking to place an order for that set or when is it starting every so often :P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:09:43
it shouldn't, more orders means cheaper price. cheaper price means more money in our pocket to buy from tsangan's gb :D

my dk saver needs this kit

my dox will need this kit

phantom also
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:14:57
Quote from: tsangan;519150
Just to clarify a bit more this is ment as a add-on kit and not strictly for Phantom but more for a bunch of keyboards that can use these few keys to make the set work for example, the picture itself is just to show an example of the keys and their row and not necessary that's the spot they will be going in.

Stepped caps - no need for explanation
1.5x modifer - for winkeyless keyboards
1x modifer - for winkeyless keyboards, Fn key beside the shift and also many other boards such as Choc Mini, there are 4 keys because besides the space between alt and control a lot of keyboards require more 1x keys
1800 shift - for Cherry 1800, Dox, and I believe the Phantom can incorporate this also which will allow an extra 1x key beside it, similar to HHKB/Pure

This add on kit hits A LOT of keyboards out there that have a few funky keys here and there.

While the 7bit layout is very intesnse, there are many 1.25 modifers, small enter, small backspace, tiny shift, and HUGE function row keys, there is no way to incorporate that into this multi purpose set as the 7bit add on requires far too many keys by itself.


We need the DOX guys, and Pure, Choc Mini owners to come here to order a main kit and a Phantom kit.  Maybe we need to call the Phantom kit something else to they don't think it is just for Phantom.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:20:58
Quote from: litster;519166
We need the DOX guys, and Pure, Choc Mini owners to come here to order a main kit and a Phantom kit.  Maybe we need to call the Phantom kit something else to they don't think it is just for Phantom.

This kit is so multi purpose its insane!

Multi purpose 11-keys add-on kit, for winkeyless keyboards such as Phantom, Dox, Cherry 1800, DKSaver, 356CL, Choc Mini, and many more!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:22:27
lets call it the tsangan kit since it was your idea!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:31:15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promiscuity

The Promiscuity kit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:32:30
**** add on
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:45:38
Quote from: tsangan;519150
Just to clarify a bit more this is ment as a add-on kit and not strictly for Phantom but more for a bunch of keyboards that can use these few keys to make the set work for example, the picture itself is just to show an example of the keys and their row and not necessary that's the spot they will be going in.

Stepped caps - no need for explanation
1.5x modifer - for winkeyless keyboards
1x modifer - for winkeyless keyboards, Fn key beside the shift and also many other boards such as Choc Mini, there are 4 keys because besides the space between alt and control a lot of keyboards require more 1x keys
1800 shift - for Cherry 1800, Dox, and I believe the Phantom can incorporate this also which will allow an extra 1x key beside it, similar to HHKB/Pure

This add on kit hits A LOT of keyboards out there that have a few funky keys here and there.

While the 7bit layout is very intesnse, there are many 1.25 modifers, small enter, small backspace, tiny shift, and HUGE function row keys, there is no way to incorporate that into this multi purpose set as the 7bit add on requires far too many keys by itself.

Quote from: tsangan;519159
People might be thinking not to spend the little extra on this add-on kit but you really have to see the versatility on this kit

If you're looking to get a Pure, this add on kit is required, Winkeyless Phantom this kit is required, Cherry 1800 this kit is required, Dox this kit is required, Choc Mini this set is required, and a lot more custom keyboards out there!

Quote from: litster;519166
We need the DOX guys, and Pure, Choc Mini owners to come here to order a main kit and a Phantom kit.  Maybe we need to call the Phantom kit something else to they don't think it is just for Phantom.

Quote from: tsangan;519168
This kit is so multi purpose its insane!

Thanks for the clarification. I was mislead by Rag's OP, where it just says compatible with Phantom, with no mentions with which phantom it's good for and no mentions of Dox, Pure Cherry 1800, etc.

Rag, you should really rename this kit to something like "Uber Add-on kit", anything but Phantom. It's not even compatible with most of the phantom layouts, only two of them. And also just note that by getting this kit, you're essentially paying for a lot of keys that won't be used if for instance you ONLY want the 1.5 modifiers.



With that said, I'm interested in this kit, but only want 2 of the 11 keys (the x1.75 shift and x1 diamond), so does anyone else want to split this kit with me? you get the x1.5 mods, other x1's, stepped cap, and x7 space bar.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:50:52
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519192
Thanks for the clarification. I was mislead by Rag's OP, where it just says compatible with Phantom, with no mentions with which phantom it's good for and no mentions of Dox, Pure Cherry 1800, etc.

Rag, you should really rename this kit to something like "Uber Add-on kit", anything but Phantom. It's not even compatible with most of the phantom layouts, only two of them. And also just note that by getting this kit, you're essentially paying for a lot of keys that won't be used if for instance you ONLY want the 1.5 modifiers.



With that said, I'm interested in this kit, but only want 2 of the 11 keys (the x1.75 shift and x1 diamond), so does anyone else want to split this kit with me? you get the x1.5 mods, other x1's, stepped cap, and x7 space bar.

the base kit of this group buy already works with Phantom PHANSIWIN.  If you add the Phantom kit, it works with PHANWIN as well.  If you add just ISO, it will work with PHISOWIN.  If you add both the ISO kit and Phantom kit, it will work with PHISO.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:51:04
I agree with name change, Phantom is somewhat misleading. Multi-purpose addon or something like that. = )
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:51:04
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;519192
Thanks for the clarification. I was mislead by Rag's OP, where it just says compatible with Phantom, with no mentions with which phantom it's good for and no mentions of Dox, Pure Cherry 1800, etc.

Rag, you should really rename this kit to something like "Uber Add-on kit", anything but Phantom. It's not even compatible with most of the phantom layouts, only two of them. And also just note that by getting this kit, you're essentially paying for a lot of keys that won't be used if for instance you ONLY want the 1.5 modifiers.



With that said, I'm interested in this kit, but only want 2 of the 11 keys (the x1.75 shift and x1 diamond), so does anyone else want to split this kit with me? you get the x1.5 mods, other x1's, stepped cap, and x7 space bar.

I'd be interested as I want the stepped caps. Depending on the price.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:53:07
I can rename it whatever you guys want, just lmk. I'll just update the OP with the info.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: royalsego on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:53:54
1 x Ragnarok
1 x 104 Kit

Texas
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:54:00
Quote from: Ragnorock;519203
I can rename it whatever you guys want, just lmk. I'll just update the OP with the info.

How about the "Phantasmagoria" kit?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:57:13
Quote from: pjpettis;519207
How about the "Phantasmagoria" kit?

Can you make it longer?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 21:58:30
Quote from: litster;519214
Can you make it longer?

How about "Phantasmagoricarifical" kit? LOL
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:01:04
I was hoping you would say "that's what she said." ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:05:07
Quote from: litster;519223
I was hoping you would say "that's what she said." ;-)

Bwaaahaaahaahaa!!!  A man of my own heart...

But I like "Phantasmagoricarifical" since we could say,"Hey, that kit is really phantasmagoricarifical!" and we could always harken back to this day when the phrase was coined and we would sing drinking songs while we hoist our ales into the air and smash our tankards together!

Well, that last part might be a bit much.  But I still like it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:05:12
How about the "Tranny" kit?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: MrPhil on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:05:48
Ragnarok
1 x Keyset

Country: New Zealand
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:06:10
It's already suggested, but how about the "**** kit"? :p
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:06:14
I like "Tsangan's compatibility kit" personally, but that's just me. I mean I near enough as makes no difference named this group buy after myself, so why not make it a theme? Lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:10:44
How about "Tsangan's Phantasmagoricarifical compatibility kit"?  Too much?  I'm sorry...  I couldn't resist.  I'll try to control myself from now on.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:12:36
I think if anything is to be named after tsangan, it should be his Cream on Green set.

Just call it the Combatability Kit. Keep it short and simple. It's not a special thing.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:15:16
Quote from: hazeluff;519238
I think if anything is to be named after tsangan, it should be his Cream on Green set.

Just call it the Combatability Kit. Keep it short and simple. It's not a special thing.


+1, but spell it "Compatibility Kit".  :-)  Combatability is, hum, too combative.
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Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:15:54
Quote from: litster;519242
+1, but spell it "Compatibility Kit".  :-)

Why do you hurt my feelings like that, I know I can't spell = (.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:17:31
Combatability is fitting, Litster, so leave the kid alone. We are talking about the "meanest" kit in the group buy section at the moment after all.
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Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:18:43
Yeah I did it on purpose. It was a play on words. >.> Um yeah..

"COMBATability" Yeah? Yeah.
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Post by: litster on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:20:15
LOL!  I really did laugh out loud!

COMBATability kit is so much more descriptive than Phantom kit! Hahaha!
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Post by: KylJoy on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:21:42
LOL...  (also literally out loud)  I love COMBATability...  Chuck Norris would like it.
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Post by: hazeluff on Sun, 19 February 2012, 22:25:21
I'm a genius. You're welcome world.
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 19 February 2012, 23:18:36
Quote from: tsangan;519159
People might be thinking not to spend the little extra on this add-on kit but you really have to see the versatility on this kit

If you're looking to get a Pure, this add on kit is required,
isn't the pure right shift going to be one unit wider than that?
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Post by: demik on Sun, 19 February 2012, 23:20:47
looks to be 1.75 also
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Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 23:28:42
Quote from: mkawa;519309
isn't the pure right shift going to be one unit wider than that?

Negative it's a 1.75 shift since the row is all normal except for the shift and they cut off parts to make that extra key beside it which makes the shift a 1.75x shift and the key beside it a 1x key
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 19 February 2012, 23:32:37
grumble grumble. effin eff. sigh. i guess i'm in for one of the compatibility kits. wonder if it's too late to pick up a phansi plate from litser...
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Post by: tsangan on Sun, 19 February 2012, 23:34:25
Quote from: mkawa;519332
grumble grumble. effin eff. sigh. i guess i'm in for one of the compatibility kits. wonder if it's too late to pick up a phansi plate from litser...

You made a great choice no lie, this kit people will be wishing they bought it later on when they get a new keyboard but missing those 1-2 keys to make it work nice :)
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Post by: duncan on Mon, 20 February 2012, 03:46:11
Ragnarok
2 x Keyset

Phantom
2 x Keyset
(To get diamond mod keys to not have to have the super ugly Windows keys spoiling a great key set)
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Post by: WRXChris on Mon, 20 February 2012, 06:58:49
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

PM sent!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 07:30:36
Quote from: duncan;519431
Ragnarok
2 x Keyset

Phantom
2 x Keyset
(To get diamond mod keys to not have to have the super ugly Windows keys spoiling a great key set)


Those diamond keys are 1x, worthless to you unless you own a keyboard with a single unit key between ctrl and alt
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:02:09
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/a-flag-no-more-microsoft-unveils-new-windows-logo.ars

ok now i'm insisting that we get rid of that silly windows logo key..
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Post by: hazeluff on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:35:33
Quote from: mkawa;519520
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/a-flag-no-more-microsoft-unveils-new-windows-logo.ars

ok now i'm insisting that we get rid of that silly windows logo key..

Make it look like a window instead of a flag?
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 10:29:05
That's even uglier
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 10:49:41
i'm perfectly happy with a blank there, actually.
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Post by: jil_jil32 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 11:08:04
All I want from the Phantom kit are 2 "star" keycaps! Cool! =P~
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Post by: TheSoulhunter on Mon, 20 February 2012, 13:42:09
PM sent for 2x Ragnarok and 2x 104 :)
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Post by: Jophess on Mon, 20 February 2012, 16:08:03
Ragnarok x 1

Undecided on addons for now.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Mon, 20 February 2012, 16:10:17
Quote from: Jophess;519858
Ragnarok x 1

Undecided on addons for now.

The decision should just be both addons. That is the decision your heart wants you to make.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 16:15:24
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

USA
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Post by: fstop on Mon, 20 February 2012, 16:23:34
Ragnarok
2x Keyset

Country: USA

My vote goes to anything besides standard win/alt/ctr (prefer super/meta/diamond but I'm basically happy with anything else).
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 20 February 2012, 16:26:10
Seriously, the Windows logo will probably end up not happening simply because I thought it was and already bought keys to take their place. =\

I'd still be down for Super/Meta or whatever in place of the logo.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 18:46:06
If you guys can come up with a legend that everyone wants instead of the Windows key, then I'm for it. Obviously it can't be trademarked or anything, but I'd just as soon have some sort of cool symbol, like a biohazard warning or something. Melissa would hate me if I gave her that SVG lol, would be so hard to get right.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 18:46:52
windows logo is fine. no need for unnecessary fees. worst comes to worst, ppl can buy blank black mods from wasdkeyboards if it bothers them THAT much
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Post by: hazeluff on Mon, 20 February 2012, 18:47:49
Quote from: Ragnorock;519964
If you guys can come up with a legend that everyone wants instead of the Windows key, then I'm for it. Obviously it can't be trademarked or anything, but I'd just as soon have some sort of cool symbol, like a biohazard warning or something. Melissa would hate me if I gave her that SVG lol, would be so hard to get right.

Blood splatter.

(opinion of a non buyer)
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 18:48:14
you mean bloody semen
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Post by: hazeluff on Mon, 20 February 2012, 18:48:45
Quote from: demik;519967
you mean bloody semen

; p

Yeah, whatever floats your boat.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 18:49:50
thats what it looks like!
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:00:42
The new Windows 8 logo, in red:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41224[/ATTACH]
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:02:59
Not really digging the new windows logo. It would be cool to agree on something besides the standard key though.
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:04:51
There was no regular enter key in this group buy yeah? Not in any of the add-ons too? Also, every key is double shot right? Does the F, J and 5 have the little bit that sticks out on them?
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:04:53
Quote from: demik;519965
windows logo is fine. no need for unnecessary fees. worst comes to worst, ppl can buy blank black mods from wasdkeyboards if it bothers them THAT much


Would the profiles be the same?
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Post by: hazeluff on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:06:58
Quote from: mickd;519977
There was no regular enter key in this group buy yeah? Not in any of the add-ons too? Also, every key is double shot right? Does the F, J and 5 have the little bit that sticks out on them?

Im pretty sure its a 88key set. 2 enter keys (one says "execute"))
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:16:28
Red on black Windows 8 logo.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41226[/ATTACH]
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:16:39
Ah yes, you're right! How did i miss that haha.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:17:53
Quote from: litster;519992
Red on black Windows 8 logo.

(Attachment) 41226[/ATTACH]

damn it, kind of want.
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Post by: Kisakuku on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:23:50
Quote from: litster;519992
Red on black Windows 8 logo.

We are all Norwegians now.
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Post by: KylJoy on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:27:42
Which is better:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41227[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41228[/ATTACH]

Ignore sloppy editing, please.

EDIT: Actually, was the original windows logo only an outline?
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:29:01
I am a bigger fan of that new windows 8 logo; its not 2001 anymore.
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:38:55
i've got a few ripster. want them?
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:40:20
Quote from: litster;519992
Red on black Windows 8 logo.

(Attachment) 41226[/ATTACH]
wait ****. that actually looks cool. goddamnit. can we do that?
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:45:00
Both of those logos look like garbage to me, and I wouldn't really want them as my windows keys, but again, I have my own mods already, so I don't really care as much as I would.

Also I'm not sure if the F and J keys have the bump on them, I would assume so and plan to though.
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:48:35
hmm, in that case this is likely to turn into another one of those herding cats things. i'm fine with whatever the majority wants, or the default if people can't decide on something specific.
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Post by: Soulpyre on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:53:22
Quote from: demik;519996
damn it, kind of want.


I agree, I actually kinda like the new windows logo with red on black
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:58:05
If we use the new Windows 8 logo for the win key, it will probably be the only keycap set (or any keyboard) to have the new Windows logo for a while, before Windows 8 is released.  

I do like the new logo, especially when it is red on black.  I think it goes well with the Wyse font, which is kind of minimalistic in a good way IMO.
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Post by: tsangan on Mon, 20 February 2012, 19:58:36
Look what you did litster, you have rattled the community :rofl:

We decided on the wyse font for this set?
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:00:17
Litster the sh!t stirrer.
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:08:29
hey litster, total thread hijack, but is it too late to get a phansi plate into my phantom order?
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:25:47
Quote from: tsangan;520037
Look what you did litster, you have rattled the community :rofl:

We decided on the wyse font for this set?

yes, the only thing we've agreed on is the wyse font.

everybody that disagree will be ignored =p
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:26:19
I counter your silly windows logos with something much more badass:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41232[/ATTACH]
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:27:17
what's great about this set is that it isnt too flashy.

thats why i think the windows logo would suit it better IMO
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:29:33
I also vote for the new windows 8 key. I haven't put in an order yet though (but I will, just thinking about which add-ons to get).
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Post by: Jophess on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:33:43
I like the red Windows 8 logo, but it doesn't really matter to me since I'll be using my SC2 mods anyway.
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Post by: biochem on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:35:24
I want the biohazard in red!
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:37:50
Time for a poll? Or are we leaving it up to our fearless leader? I think the biohazard goes well with the set.
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Post by: fstop on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:42:22
Lame win key doesn't fit on a keyset that has the word "Execute" in it :P.

Like the biohazard so far as well!

BTW, for anyone who knows the red that's being used for the lettering, will it match a SP Red Esc? wondering how it will look together.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 20:42:33
Well I was thinking biohazard because I am a pretty big fan of zombie apocalypses... and Ragnarok = Apocalypse.


I'm down for a poll, I'll set it up later.
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:15:05
A poll would be sweet. Since there's also a regular enter key included, personally I just want the windows key to have the keycaps come in a complete set. The windows 8 design is something new and different too; an added bonus. Either way I'm going to replace them with my own custom mods.
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Post by: KylJoy on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:16:31
Quote from: Ragnorock;520062
I counter your silly windows logos with something much more badass:
(Attachment) 41232[/ATTACH]


YES!!!  THAT!!
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Post by: KylJoy on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:18:32
How about this key!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41236[/ATTACH]

It's a one of a kind custom made by Unicomp!!!

:boink:
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:21:36
how about blood dripping down the keycap? eh? eh?
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:30:22
Quote from: mickd;520108
A poll would be sweet. Since there's also a regular enter key included, personally I just want the windows key to have the keycaps come in a complete set. The windows 8 design is something new and different too; an added bonus. Either way I'm going to replace them with my own custom mods.

That assumes that the requirements for a complete set include windows based design. I would rather have something that doesn't represent any operating system and makes the set unique than going with what everyone already has. It isn't like someone is going to be like, "aww man, it has a biohazard symbol instead of the windows logo, I can't use this on my Alienware prebuilt pile of junk the marketers told me was good because it runs VISTA!"
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Post by: jil_jil32 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:32:40
Quote from: Ragnorock;520062
I counter your silly windows logos with something much more badass:
(Attachment) 41232[/ATTACH]

If it's seperate from the set, I'll be in for 5-10!!! <3
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Post by: KylJoy on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:33:38
Quote from: jil_jil32;520123
If it's seperate from the set, I'll be in for 5-10!!! <3

I'd buy a couple extras myself.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:40:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;520121
That assumes that the requirements for a complete set include windows based design. I would rather have something that doesn't represent any operating system and makes the set unique than going with what everyone already has. It isn't like someone is going to be like, "aww man, it has a biohazard symbol instead of the windows logo, I can't use this on my Alienware prebuilt pile of junk the marketers told me was good because it runs VISTA!"

Oh man I lol'd at this for real. Good call.
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Post by: tsangan on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:44:49
I prefer just plain window please, that key is awesome and all but would prefer that to be separate.
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Post by: kikkobots on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:45:13
Ragnarok
1x Keyset


Country: USA

symbols instead of windows and for alts would be nice
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Post by: Zwi on Mon, 20 February 2012, 21:50:56
I like the biohazard, not a big fan of the Windows key (but then again I'm not a fan of Windows :tongue: )
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:09:39
Windows!  Windows!  Windows!

Linux and OS X have windows, too!
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:23:30
[ATTACH=CONFIG]41238[/ATTACH]

OSX and Linux do not have windows. ¬.¬
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:25:19
Quote from: Ragnorock;520121
That assumes that the requirements for a complete set include windows based design. I would rather have something that doesn't represent any operating system and makes the set unique than going with what everyone already has. It isn't like someone is going to be like, "aww man, it has a biohazard symbol instead of the windows logo, I can't use this on my Alienware prebuilt pile of junk the marketers told me was good because it runs VISTA!"


What I stated was just my preference. Ultimately you have the final call Rag whether I like it or not ;) Regardless of what you choose in the end, I will still be eager to get into this group buy!
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:29:22
Quote from: Ragnorock;520181
(Attachment) 41238[/ATTACH]

OSX and Linux do not have windows. ¬.¬


Right, they have walls instead.  :lol:
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Post by: hoochi on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:29:34
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: US
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:29:55
Diamonds or other non-OS-specific symbols, please.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:47:25
By the way, whether we do the biohazard symbol or not, I will be offering it as an esc key eventually. Could be the only way we do it in mod form would be this though.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 22:50:38
windows key windows key windows key!
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:00:24
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BLWKYTC

Survey is up, please complete if you want a say in what the "windows" key has as its legend.
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:03:10
I take it the biohazard logo is a custom legend and will increase the price of the sets no?
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:05:35
Since I prefer it, I will cover it if that is the case. I want this to be as objective as possible, so don't factor in potential cost differences, because there won't be any.
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Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:07:27
Quote from: metafour;520285
I take it the biohazard logo is a custom legend and will increase the price of the sets no?


By less than a buck a set, yeah (new legends are $35-$45).

edit: Rag is a total boss
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:09:33
Is the "Windows Logo" the windows 8 logo? Or any windows logo? There were some people that didn't like the old style, but wouldn't mind the new one.
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:09:48
I imagine the cost would be minimal if spread across the total number of sets. The max fee I've seen in threads seems to be $45 for custom legends. I know I would personally prefer anything other than the windows logo because I don't use windows either. I voted for Biohazard. Great band too so you can't go wrong.
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:12:58
Is the survey one vote per IP?
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Post by: mickd on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:18:34
Quote from: metafour;520306
Is the survey one vote per IP?

Oh my god, we just had to have someone mention this rofl. Here's to hoping that everyone on GeekHack is mature enough and democratic enough to do this properly.
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:19:39
Quote from: mickd;520319
Oh my god, we just had to have someone mention this rofl. Here's to hoping that everyone on GeekHack is mature enough and democratic enough to do this properly.

[start up botnet...]

Could end up going either way if someone did manipulate it.
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Post by: tsangan on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:21:16
Stick with window key!!!!!!

You can do a biohazard esc + modifier GB :P
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Post by: demik on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:21:55
team windows key!
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:31:35
team "whatever" reppin'
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:36:54
Lol @ Demik reppin it in his sig. So far windows is in the lead btw. Also the windows 8 logo would be custom legend as well but I'm not going to be footing that bill. Just sayin it'll probably be the standard Windows logo if we do Windows.
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Post by: litster on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:42:39
I think a few of us would be happy to foot the custom Windows 8 logo custom legend.  I am in.  Anyone else?  So consider Windows logo means the new Windows 8 logo.  :-)

Oh, and I haven't voted yet.  ;-)
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 20 February 2012, 23:56:48
tell melissa they'll have to design this key anyways by the time win8 launches hahaha*


*don't actually tell her this
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Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:01:17
Quote from: litster;520351
I think a few of us would be happy to foot the custom Windows 8 logo custom legend.  I am in.  Anyone else?  So consider Windows logo means the new Windows 8 logo.  :-)

Oh, and I haven't voted yet.  ;-)

ill put down some cash, so team windows key can win
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:07:27
I'll support team windows and pitch in

biohazard isnt for me
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:12:37
Alright then, the vocal guys win. Windows it is. I will see what Melissa says about doing that Win 8 legend, but expect to either have about $35 to chip in between its supporters or go with the standard windows logo.

I will do a biohazard key in one of my next group buys... in both a modifier and escape form. Hell I might even open up a separate group buy for it while this one is still running so those that want it now don't have to wait. Depends on how much time I have, I haven't even made it to getting leftover triforces up for sale. XD
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:13:38
Team Windows!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:14:46
ಠ_ಠ
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Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:18:58
Thank you Ragnorock!
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Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:41:35
stupid hot link. link.


team windows key wins!
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Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 00:53:56
Anyone else want to join the Windows team and chip in?
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Post by: jil_jil32 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:10:09
Biohazard aghhhhhhh >"<
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:11:14
Quote from: jil_jil32;520418
Biohazard aghhhhhhh >"<

Better for you, its a separate buy, you can get 5-10 now :P

esc and modifier too!!!!
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Post by: zzspectrez on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:38:15
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: US
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Post by: snowboarder3 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:43:29
in for win8 chipin
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Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:49:05
Quote from: snowboarder3;520444
in for win8 chipin

Thanks snowboarder3!
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Post by: Kisakuku on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:51:39
Oh wth, I'll chip in for Win8 Norwegian goodness too and move to Redmond while I'm at it.
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Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:55:35
That's the spirit kisa!
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Post by: WRXChris on Tue, 21 February 2012, 01:57:52
i'll chip in for win8 also, i'll do anything to help make vista as distant a memory as possible ;) plus i think the isosceles trapezoid looks much better than the old tacky wavy flappy thing!
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 21 February 2012, 02:04:23
I can chip in for the windows key no problem; I don't pay shipping or paypal fees anyways.
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Post by: Zehkul on Tue, 21 February 2012, 03:03:06
Quote from: Ragnorock;520246
By the way, whether we do the biohazard symbol or not, I will be offering it as an esc key eventually. Could be the only way we do it in mod form would be this though.


Maybe as a row 4 key, too? Would have the benefit of being compatible to 1.5 mod keyboards and additionally it would be the fourth ISO needed key. Why a separate group buy? :P I'd prefer to save some shipping.
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Post by: duncan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 03:41:52
Quote from: demik;519485
Those diamond keys are 1x, worthless to you unless you own a keyboard with a single unit key between ctrl and alt

Yes it's all good. I will be using them on my Pokers.
But you were right in pointing out that I was, in fact, being a retard when I wrote the the original message, just that I have enough boards to make my retardation still work out for me. :-)

Stepped CapsLock is enough to make the Phantom set worth it anyway.

Will be looking forward to the group by for the biohazard mods when that happens.

I am not going to chip in but if we have to have the Windows key I do hope the Win8 one gets enough cash votes from the Team Windows crowd. If I have to have it the new one is a lot less ugly than the old one IMO.
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Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 21 February 2012, 05:29:01
PM'ed for adding another two Ragnarok sets :)
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Post by: captain on Tue, 21 February 2012, 05:52:15
Tsangan Phantasmagoricarifical Tranny **** Compatibility Kit?

I guess I need to add a 104 kit too, since even the Tsangan Phantasmagoricarifical Tranny **** Compatibility Kit won't fill in a 7bitPhantom.
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 06:40:24
I'm amazed that the windows logo won. I'm also disappointed that I didn't manipulate the vote now. ;)
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Post by: captain on Tue, 21 February 2012, 06:58:09
I don't think the windoze key is a done deal. Now that people realize the MS logo is extinct, maybe we can pick an OS agnostic replacement!  I vote for PIRATE!

(http://deskthority.net/w/images/f/f3/Pirateflag_Dark_Orange.png)

In red of course.
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Post by: mickd on Tue, 21 February 2012, 07:09:36
It's up to Rag, but based on the last 5 or so pages, seems pretty likely we're going with the windows 8 key! (My personal preference too ;))
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Post by: captain on Tue, 21 February 2012, 07:12:19
That's what I get for skimming. I missed a few pages in just a few wee hours. Feh!  No OS should have a guaranteed spot on an elite keyboard. I'm disappointed.
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Post by: biochem on Tue, 21 February 2012, 07:28:23
If we don't do Biohazard, then Windoze 8 is fine. I'll chip in a couple bucks.

Quote from: captain;520567
Pick an OS agnostic replacement!  I vote for PIRATE! In red of course.

I was also thinking of a jolly roger in red! But it sounds like the Norwegian trapezoid is in for this GB. Hopefully Ragnorock will do the red jolly roger it in a separate GB.
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 09:08:23
Dear everyone who voted for the windows key,

You are dead to me.

Sincerely,
metafour

(for the record I think the new windows logo is better than the old)
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 09:46:22
Well if there happened to be some late surge of favor toward biohazard in the survey I would be inspired but Windows won out almost 2:1.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 09:47:00
Team windows!!!
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 09:56:31
Quote from: Ragnorock;520623
Well if there happened to be some late surge of favor toward biohazard in the survey I would be inspired but Windows won out almost 2:1.

I can make this surge happen... ;)
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Post by: jil_jil32 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:04:48
Just do it!!!
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Post by: balanar on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:12:41
Balanar reporting in for Team Biohazard!
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Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:32:44
Thank you for all the Windows 8 logo support!  Here is a list of people who have pledged to chip in for the Windows 8 logo setup fee.

litster
demik
tsangan
snowboarder3
kisakuku
WRXChris
RColintaylor
biochem

I can't wait for Windows 8 beta.  All the new cool features.  Did you see the new skydrive integration?  I will need to buy one of those Samsung tablets to run Windows 8 beta on.  A tablet that I can plug aany of my keyboards directly onto and get 100% key coverage, unlike iPad.  Imagine that!  :D
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:34:53
I tried the win 8 beta on my desktop in vmware and I hate it. Metro is not my thing. Hopefully it works better on a tablet.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:36:19
Yeah no manipulating the polls please. Its 25 to 12, but I realize that it was rather unfair of me to only have the poll open for a few hours. For those still interested in voting, its reposted below. However at this point its leaning pretty heavily toward Windows, so don't expect miracles.

Windows 8 is just another ripoff of features that have been present in some form or another on other operating systems for years. (Cough cough OS X)
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Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:38:15
You didn't try the Win8 beta, that was the technical preview from last year.  The new beta hasn't come out yet and a lot have changed since the technical preview.  And you ran it in the worst possible environment, VMWare, and most likely you didn't run it on a computer/laptop with a touch screen.

Try it again on Feb 29th or early March.
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Post by: Wraul on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:39:16
I don't understand all the support for the Windows key. A keyboard isn't only usable with Windows you know.
Maybe I'm biased as I only ever use Windows when there is a problem with someones computer. Which is rather frequent I guess... :tongue:

But if we are to do the Windows logo I think it should be the Windows 8 logo.
That way we'll have a Windows 8 compatible keyboard even before it's release.
I would even pay a little extra to have the new logo, but on the other hand I would probably pay more to have something different than the windows logo.
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Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:40:07
But even so, if they expect Win8 to replace Win7 it had better not suck without a touch screen.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:44:04
^ Yeah that. Does anyone remember the Vista debacle? Nobody bothered to upgrade because it wasn't significantly better than XP, only a more bloated, resource hogging version of it.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:46:50
Quote from: litster;520658
You didn't try the Win8 beta, that was the technical preview from last year.  The new beta hasn't come out yet and a lot have changed since the technical preview.  And you ran it in the worst possible environment, VMWare, and most likely you didn't run it on a computer/laptop with a touch screen.

Try it again on Feb 29th or early March.

I was using the latest developers version. And I have no desire for a desktop with a touch screen. The ui looks like Windows Phone which is hideous Imo.

But back ot if we're doing windows we may as well use the new logo. But why are you guys soon in love with Windows? I'm no m$ hater but I would prefer something unique.
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Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:48:36
The familiar is automatically more liked than something that is unfamiliar and only somewhat of interest.  If it were possible to find the 'killer glyph' then there would still be naysayers that are happier with the familiar.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:51:23
I would be happy with a blank key there but whatever.
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:54:05
I don't necessarily like windows, but I want something more general, ie diamond/star/circle/triangle/super/meta etc etc

I have nothing against biohazard but it's like a set that only came with Jolly Roger as the modifier key it's very novelty, and I think the base set should be something a lot more general.
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Post by: xbb on Tue, 21 February 2012, 10:56:32
Quote from: ripster;520014
Some of those dudes that bought the grab bags got the original Windows logo.
http://geekhack.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=520014&noquote=1
See if you can find it:
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Come to think of it I want one of those.

I'll add to my Ripster trades thread.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22259-Ripsters-Novelty-Key-Trade-Thread

As soon as Kisakuku sends that Paw key he promised me.


Aren't those Cherry original caps? They were in the SP grab bags??
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:05:56
Quote from: tsangan;520679
I don't necessarily like windows, but I want something more general, ie diamond/star/circle/triangle/super/meta etc etc

I have nothing against biohazard but it's like a set that only came with Jolly Roger as the modifier key it's very novelty, and I think the base set should be something a lot more general.

Yeah everyone just got Jolly Rogers too, in the novelty group buy you took the helm of. I understand the desire to have it look generic, and I understand the desire to have it be unique/non-OS specific. While I'm actually very much in dislike with Windows, and an OS X user I'm certainly not forcing it to be a command key, even though the legend "Command" would be generic enough on its own.

I figured Biohazard would look awesome enough that it would fit well with a set of this color scheme and badass level. Its fine though, we can go with this Windows 8 bs as long as Melissa says it can be done, which it should. I still need an SVG though, and quick. I am trying to find the time to get all of this new info coherent enough that I can relay it to Melissa but I forgot I have an essay due at 1:25 and I've yet to start it lol. That and I was an idiot and got <4 hours of sleep because I stayed up all night reading A Dance with Dragons. That means you probably have until tomorrow to harass Hazeluff about it. ¬.¬
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:08:44
I'm used to harassing him, i'll get him on it :P

Better start cracking on that essay
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:08:49
Is a recount in order?
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:12:05
Quote from: Ragnorock;520696
Yeah everyone just got Jolly Rogers too, in the novelty group buy you took the helm of. I understand the desire to have it look generic, and I understand the desire to have it be unique/non-OS specific. While I'm actually very much in dislike with Windows, and an OS X user I'm certainly not forcing it to be a command key, even though the legend "Command" would be generic enough on its own.

I figured Biohazard would look awesome enough that it would fit well with a set of this color scheme and badass level. Its fine though, we can go with this Windows 8 bs as long as Melissa says it can be done, which it should. I still need an SVG though, and quick. I am trying to find the time to get all of this new info coherent enough that I can relay it to Melissa but I forgot I have an essay due at 1:25 and I've yet to start it lol. That and I was an idiot and got <4 hours of sleep because I stayed up all night reading A Dance with Dragons. That means you probably have until tomorrow to harass Hazeluff about it. ¬.¬

Do you want me to send you the biohaz SVG?
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:12:59
Quote from: hazeluff;520709
Do you want me to send you the biohaz SVG?

Make the win8 svg too :P
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:15:23
Quote from: tsangan;520710
Make the win8 svg too :P

Whoa., getting bossy eh?
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Post by: tsangan on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:16:20
Pretty please? With sugar and cherry on top :hug:
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:22:01
Quote from: tsangan;520716
Pretty please? With sugar and cherry on top :hug:

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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:23:06
I have no skin in this game, but to me Biohazard and Jolly Roger look incredibly cheesy.  Keys like that are what I put on my catch-all keyboard.  I wouldn't pair them with a sexy new matching set, particularly an understated, slick set like this one.  It just doesn't fit the style.  Personally I like OS-agnostic modifiers, but if I had to choose between Windows and Biohazard I would choose Windows for sure.  And the new Windows 8 logo looks great IMO.

Quote from: Ragnorock;520654
Windows 8 is just another ripoff of features that have been present in some form or another on other operating systems for years. (Cough cough OS X)

Rly?  Windows 8 seems pretty bold and innovative to me.  It certainly looks totally different than other OSes.  Like I said before, I'm intrigued by it and am looking forward to seeing how usable it is.  XP and 7 were both solid, so my leftover Microsoft animosity from the 90s has dwindled to the point where I am rooting for them again, even though I spend most of my time on Linux.
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:30:30
The one thing I want to say is that the Win8 Logo actually looks like a window.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:34:01
Quote from: hazeluff;520709
Do you want me to send you the biohaz SVG?

Yeah whenever you can please. No rush.

Quote
Rly? Windows 8 seems pretty bold and innovative to me. It certainly looks totally different than other OSes. Like I said before, I'm intrigued by it and am looking forward to seeing how usable it is. XP and 7 were both solid, so my leftover Microsoft animosity from the 90s has dwindled to the point where I am rooting for them again, even though I spend most of my time on Linux.

Its cloud and sharing properties, though expanded upon, have been around on Macs for ages. It is simply because Apple is only compatible with Apple that most of the sharing doesn't extend further with most users. Very few people, even Apple fans like myself, use exclusively Apple products. I have yet to buy an iPhone or an iPad or an Apple TV etc because I haven't found one I need. Want, sure. But need? Not yet. Been waiting for the iPhone 5 though, and when it comes out I will buy it. Other than that, I don't know enough about 8 to comment on it, but if you look at 7's design principles, they were all borrowed from Leopard or w/e the OS was at the time, and Vista did the same before that, except it was more features based, and the execution was terrible.
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:42:10
Rag, I think I sent you to the SVGs. Let me know if you haven't gotten it in a while, since I could of very well sent it to the wrong person...>.>

Edit: I sent the wrong files so 2nd one inc= x
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Post by: haggle on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:45:02
PM sent, sorry for the confusion with ordering. I am a dumbass often
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:47:41
Quote from: Ragnorock;520750
Its cloud and sharing properties, though expanded upon, have been around on Macs for ages. It is simply because Apple is only compatible with Apple that most of the sharing doesn't extend further with most users. Very few people, even Apple fans like myself, use exclusively Apple products. I have yet to buy an iPhone or an iPad or an Apple TV etc because I haven't found one I need. Want, sure. But need? Not yet. Been waiting for the iPhone 5 though, and when it comes out I will buy it. Other than that, I don't know enough about 8 to comment on it, but if you look at 7's design principles, they were all borrowed from Leopard or w/e the OS was at the time, and Vista did the same before that, except it was more features based, and the execution was terrible.

8 takes the UI in a totally different direction than 7.  It looks and behaves nothing like OS X.  This is why I'm excited for it, since for once they seem to be doing something genuinely new rather than playing catch-up with Apple.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 11:59:37
I'm not holding my breath but that's good to hear. Though if it sucks without touch screens its going to fail miserably.
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:05:11
Is Win8 meant to be a tablet and PC OS?
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Post by: 7bit on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:06:27
Quote from: hazeluff;520726
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The key cap looks like an error. Suits Windows 8 perfectly!
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Post by: mkawa on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:11:52
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bigger, and 1.25x please? ;)

god, i just realized that i was wearing an MS branded shirt all yesterday. i feel so dirty.
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:13:19
Quote from: mkawa;520787
bigger, and 1.25x please? ;)

god, i just realized that i was wearing an MS branded shirt all yesterday. i feel so dirty.

It's 1.25, but It looked weird when I made it bigger. I made it about the same scale the normal windows key would be.
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Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:14:25
Quote from: Ragnorock;520776
I'm not holding my breath but that's good to hear. Though if it sucks without touch screens its going to fail miserably.

Quote from: hazeluff;520779
Is Win8 meant to be a tablet and PC OS?

Yup, I think it's meant to unify phones, desktops, and tablets.  Admirable, but I agree with Rag that if it sucks with a mouse it's a fail in my book.  I don't particularly want a touch interface on my desk.
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Post by: mkawa on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:14:51
hmm. is there any way to make it a tad bit wider without making it look either too tall or too skewed?
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:17:24
Quote from: hashbaz;520792
Yup, I think it's meant to unify phones, desktops, and tablets.  Admirable, but I agree with Rag that if it sucks with a mouse it's a fail in my book.  I don't particularly want a touch interface on my desk.

I don't agree with it then. The 3 things are very different in what the user needs. Its good that some things are unified. But It shouldn't have the same UI over all 3.

Quote from: mkawa;520793
hmm. is there any way to make it a tad bit wider without making it look either too tall or too skewed?

I don't really think so, I mean I don't see how this is any different from any other windows logo. I just made it similar to how big that was.
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:30:04
The biohazard symbol, as requested by Dow chemicals, needed to meet the following criteria:

(i) striking in form in order to draw immediate attention
(ii) unique and unambiguous, in order not to be confused with symbols used for other purposes
(iii) quickly recognizable and easily recalled
(iv) easily stenciled
(v) symmetrical, in order to appear identical from all angles of approach
(vi) acceptable to groups of varying ethnic backgrounds

Can you say that the windows logo, old or new, meets all of these criteria?! ;)

http://www.hms.harvard.edu/orsp/coms/BiosafetyResources/1967-10-13-Science-paper-Biohazard-Symbol.pdf
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Post by: 7bit on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:38:28
Quote from: metafour;520808
The biohazard symbol, as requested by Dow chemicals, needed to meet the following criteria:

...
(ii) unique and unambiguous, in order not to be confused with symbols used for other purposes
...
Can you say that the windows logo, old or new, meets all of these criteria?! ;)

http://www.hms.harvard.edu/orsp/coms/BiosafetyResources/1967-10-13-Science-paper-Biohazard-Symbol.pdf


This is dangerous!!!

If this symbol is used on a keyboard to indicate a Super key (or whatever) people will not run away anymore when they see that symbol.
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Post by: hazeluff on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:39:24
Quote from: metafour;520808
The biohazard symbol, as requested by Dow chemicals, needed to meet the following criteria:

(i) striking in form in order to draw immediate attention
(ii) unique and unambiguous, in order not to be confused with symbols used for other purposes
(iii) quickly recognizable and easily recalled
(iv) easily stenciled
(v) symmetrical, in order to appear identical from all angles of approach
(vi) acceptable to groups of varying ethnic backgrounds

Can you say that the windows logo, old or new, meets all of these criteria?! ;)

http://www.hms.harvard.edu/orsp/coms/BiosafetyResources/1967-10-13-Science-paper-Biohazard-Symbol.pdf

i say it lacks (i) and (ii) and (v).

i) it isn't that striking, not very dynamic, not very attention grabbing
ii) Not very unique, it looks liek a window. It could be mistaken for a Window maker logo. The old one looks like a flag...
v) The old one is, but the new win8 one is not rotationally symmetrical.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:41:23
Quote from: 7bit;520821
This is dangerous!!!

If this symbol is used on a keyboard to indicate a Super key (or whatever) people will not run away anymore when they see that symbol.

/discussion

Metafour wants to endanger lives!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 12:55:11
Lol, and the new one doesn't look like a flag? GO NORWAY!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Tue, 21 February 2012, 13:08:36
Quote from: ripster;520847
Stop swiping my jokes.

I really gotta take a picture of my Rainbow keys?

You swiped mine first.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: faMine on Tue, 21 February 2012, 13:23:17
1x Ragnarok!

Country: USA!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mafioso on Tue, 21 February 2012, 13:42:02
1Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: United Kingdom
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:02:50
Quote from: demik;520827
Metafour wants to endanger lives!!!

This is my ultimate life goal. Guess I'll have to find another way to achieve it. =\
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:11:26
Quote from: 7bit;520821
This is dangerous!!!

If this symbol is used on a keyboard to indicate a Super key (or whatever) people will not run away anymore when they see that symbol.

Furthering my goal of a biohazard induced ragnarok? Mwa ha haa.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:36:51
I'd be happier with a blank key than a Windoze key, but I guess that is just me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:39:28
You can always buy it straight from sp or wasd, nothing is holding you back.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:42:23
Quote from: demik;520964
You can always buy it straight from sp or wasd, nothing is holding you back.

But wouldn't it have a different profile?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:43:46
If you want a blank to look right with an SP kit, you should probably go to SP for it, WASD almost certainly uses another profile and probably a different color.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:43:47
Not if you get them from sp
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Tue, 21 February 2012, 14:55:53
66 kits and I was the last person updated... Looks like we've already passed the 75 mark at this rate.

:rockon:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:06:36
I still have to update my order with around  4 more sets. Damn I thought I could submit those orders and earn eternal gratitude from all for hitting 75.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:09:23
Lol you guys, I'm going to have to get a rate for 125 or 150 at this rate. XD Actually we only have another week or so, so maybe not.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:14:49
Judging from the difference in price between 75 sets and a 100 sets, I don't think we can hope to expect a huge reduction in price for 125 sets right? Or can we?

Oh and please check your PM Ragnorock!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:16:17
Quote from: balanar;520990
I still have to update my order with around  4 more sets. Damn I thought I could submit those orders and earn eternal gratitude from all for hitting 75.

>.>
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:21:37
This is approaching impulse buy territory... Mmmmm...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 21 February 2012, 15:23:13
Quote from: Ragnorock;520971
If you want a blank to look right with an SP kit, you should probably go to SP for it, WASD almost certainly uses another profile and probably a different color.

I have a blank WASD menu key, and yeah the profile is different from SP.  Not as different as SP is from Cherry though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 16:09:26
I'm busy, note that I said updates at least every 2 days in the op lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: pettijohn on Tue, 21 February 2012, 16:34:12
1X Ragnarok
Australia

Vote for regular windows logos.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 16:35:48
yayyyyyyyyyyy cheap doubleshots :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Tue, 21 February 2012, 18:02:26
I'll pitch in on the windows logo..  And I voted for BIOHAZARD!

But, I'll share the burden.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: JSchool on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:19:02
Rescue Oranje next!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:25:34
If I was ever to do another one of these it would probably be Red Alert, just fyi.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:29:29
YES, red alert <33333333333333333
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:30:10
Quote from: Ragnorock;521233
If I was ever to do another one of these it would probably be Red Alert, just fyi.

Please do it. I know you said you prefer novelty group buys. Red alert is the set I really want. Not sure how many people got in on it over at deskthority.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: JSchool on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:39:46
What did the Red Alert set look like?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:48:21
White keys with red letters. Someone posted some sick pics from OTD the other day with a custom board with a red alert set. Beautiful!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:53:53
What would rock are some inverted (black-on-red) keys for ESC, WASD, etc.  I know, I know....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 21 February 2012, 19:57:06
Quote from: rknize;521266
What would rock are some inverted (black-on-red) keys for ESC, WASD, etc.  I know, I know....

What you are talking about is an inverse gamer kit which, personally, would look good but may be a little late for this buy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:14:41
Black on Red is a bit overdone but maybe late this year/next year. This group buy is going fairly well though so if everyone is interested in Red Alert I may do it after Portal round 2. That gives Tsangan time to do Cream Cheese etc.

By the way, if I do do Red Alert, can I do it in PBT? I would be sick to have a set that perfectly matches the Nyan/Portal keycaps... with the exception of the spacebar.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:28:18
what about instead of red alert, we do the red/grey unreleased topre colorway? i can't find a pic of it right now =/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:30:28
Eeeh, I get crap for having some odd percentage of white keys and black keys, so I would want them to match.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:32:30
if you do red alert, are you also doing the red modifiers? or just the base set?

either way, im in. doesn't matter if it's double shot or PBT.

though chances are of getting a matching spacebar with PBT is up in the air.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:34:54
either way, im in. doesn't matter if it's double shot or PBT.

thought chances are of getting a matching spacebar with PBT is up in the air.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:39:30
totally down for red alert set as well if that happens!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:45:07
I would want a full set of 87 keys same as this one with addons and stuff. I like the way this works, as the TKL buyers aren't forced to buy extra keys and since there seems to be plenty of 104 interest, the price for those buyers isn't much higher, everyone gets a great deal.

I suppose the spacebar would just have to be an "As good as its going to get" deal that everyone is going to have to live with if we do it. They have ones that are pretty darn close I think though.

By the way Legend fee for the Win 8 logo is $25.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:46:47
yeah i doubt there will be a huge difference in white.

i think tsangan has the color codes that are being used for the red alert set.


and this base + add on kit is a genius idea. we all get what we want and nothing we dont
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:54:03
First post updated, hit 75. Now to go yell at my neighbor above me for being an insufferable idiot. I'm listening to my music at 12% volume and she's banging on the floor above me... during the day. I can understand a noise complaint if it is late at night, but at 6:30 I am well within my rights to turn it up to 100% if I damn well please. I don't because I'm considerate, but I can't even listen to it at a low, comfortable level.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 21 February 2012, 20:55:34
I will be placing my order eventually; I just need to stop being lazy about it and read the OP.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:07:00
You have 8 days buddy lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:10:01
Quote from: Ragnorock;521329
You have 8 days buddy lol.

That's a lifetime in my mind-frame, pal.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: royalsego on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:11:30
forever limbo
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:17:00
$45 a set!! Awesome!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:32:36
Quote from: Ragnorock;521319
First post updated, hit 75. Now to go yell at my neighbor above me for being an insufferable idiot. I'm listening to my music at 12% volume and she's banging on the floor above me... during the day. I can understand a noise complaint if it is late at night, but at 6:30 I am well within my rights to turn it up to 100% if I damn well please. I don't because I'm considerate, but I can't even listen to it at a low, comfortable level.

Bonus points if you go knock on her door and ask if there's a problem.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:34:08
I did, apparently there was a spider on her floor. Lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:41:47
hahaha
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:51:05
Quote from: Ragnorock;521355
I did, apparently there was a spider on her floor. Lol.

Oh I hope you didn't start off confrontational!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:53:47
Quote from: Ragnorock;521355
I did, apparently there was a spider on her floor. Lol.

haha lol, would have been great if you went up there cussing her out or something. Well great for us to read ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 21:58:04
Lol nah, I was like... "umm is there a problem?" She was like "What? Lol no I'm just really terrified of spiders!"
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:26:46
Is she hot?  "umm is there a problem" is a strange pick up line, but could be effective!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:27:25
How many people purchased a Phantom? More importantly, how come they're ALL not in here ordering one of these  with a Phantom add-on so that I can take advantage of their volume just to get a stepped caps lock for cheap?!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:28:19
not everyone with a phantom got a 1.5x plate...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:29:56
Quote from: metafour;521420
How many people purchased a Phantom? More importantly, how come they're ALL not in here ordering one of these  with a Phantom add-on so that I can take advantage of their volume just to get a stepped caps lock for cheap?!
there are like 7 diff layouts
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:32:35
She is not hot and my girlfriend of 6 years lives with me lol. She works at the vet hospital though, and sometimes works nights so when I first was testing out the BX8as she came down and asked me to keep it down. Thats why I thought she was stomping lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:35:36
LOL!  Next time tell her stop stomping at your music's beat!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:38:23
Quote from: metafour;521420
How many people purchased a Phantom? More importantly, how come they're ALL not in here ordering one of these  with a Phantom add-on so that I can take advantage of their volume just to get a stepped caps lock for cheap?!


Quote from: mkawa;521422
not everyone with a phantom got a 1.5x plate...


Quote from: demik;521424
there are like 7 diff layouts


there are 5 layouts officially.  We just made it pass 15 Phantom sets, that is good.  Go tell the Dox guys to come get some!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:50:24
Quote from: metafour;521420
How many people purchased a Phantom? More importantly, how come they're ALL not in here ordering one of these  with a Phantom add-on so that I can take advantage of their volume just to get a stepped caps lock for cheap?!


The phantom add-on kit is useless for most of the phantom plates. This add on kit will only be good for the 1.5x size modifiers, which is only 2 of the plates.

I'm thinking about getting this phantom kit as well, but haven't jumped on it yet because I actually only want two of the keys from the phantom kit. If you want to split this set for keys you want and keys I want, then I'll get one set for both of us. I don't want the stepped capslock. PM me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Tue, 21 February 2012, 22:55:10
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;521457
The phantom add-on kit is useless for most of the phantom plates. This add on kit will only be good for the 1.5x size modifiers, which is only 2 of the plates.

I'm thinking about getting this phantom kit as well, but haven't jumped on it yet because I actually only want two of the keys from the phantom kit. If you want to split this set for keys you want and keys I want, then I'll get one set for both of us. I don't want the stepped capslock. PM me.

I wouldn't mind splitting a set with you, but I think we are after the same keys lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:03:03
Quote from: Ovoxo;521465
I wouldn't mind splitting a set with you, but I think we are after the same keys lol

Is the stepped caps lock going to get center stemmed or offset stemmed so that it won't work with Filco/Leo/Poker?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:03:36
It's stepped.   Er sorry... off-set.


I think it;s time to sleep now.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:06:22
Quote from: metafour;521473
Is the stepped caps lock going to get center stemmed or offset stemmed so that it won't work with Filco/Leo/Poker?

will not work with filco,leo, ducky, poker. unless they mod the stem.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:07:04
Blah, does me no good then. Sorry!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:08:35
Quote from: Ovoxo;521465
I wouldn't mind splitting a set with you, but I think we are after the same keys lol

I only want the 1.75x shift, one diamond, and one star. The rest of 8 keys can be yours (or anyone else that wants to split).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: ekw808 on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:11:33
down for a set of ragnoraks, and a set of 104 if it reaches 50
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:13:33
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;521481
I only want the 1.75x shift, one diamond, and one star. The rest of 8 keys can be yours (or anyone else that wants to split).
Yup. Same keys I want! lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 21 February 2012, 23:29:18
Quote from: ekw808;521485
down for a set of ragnoraks, and a set of 104 if it reaches 50

Don't get your hopes up... that is unlikely.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaen on Wed, 22 February 2012, 00:47:03
Ragnarok
 1x Keyset
 
 Phantom
 1x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 22 February 2012, 06:36:42
I have one Question: will the spacebar of the Ragnarok set fit on a Cherry G80 3000 LQCDE? (new Modell with Win-Keys) I know that I will need the compatibility kit for the stepped CapsLock and the ISO/104 kit too.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mike Rowe on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:41:27
Ragnarok
1x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:50:54
Quote from: Jesterfox;521694
I have one Question: will the spacebar of the Ragnarok set fit on a Cherry G80 3000 LQCDE? (new Modell with Win-Keys) I know that I will need the compatibility kit for the stepped CapsLock and the ISO/104 kit too.


I honestly am not sure, though someone else might know. The profile will almost assuredly be different, but as for the fitment all I am certain of is that it will be compatible with Filcos and Leos and thus, most keyboards. Specific models though, I dunno.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: timsbleung on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:54:40
Quick question, maybe a silly one - but what plastic are these keys made in?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:57:47
Quote from: timsbleung;521772
Quick question, maybe a silly one - but what plastic are these keys made in?

Doubleshots are ABS.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:58:42
Hm, Filco and G80 have the same width and stab position for the space bar but the switch position is different... the space bar in round4 has 4 stems so it fits on both. If the space will be the same as in the cancled round4 blood set (with 4 stems) it should fit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 22 February 2012, 08:59:28
Quote from: Mike Rowe;521758
Ragnarok
1x Keyset


OMG Mike Rowe is into keyboards! :rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 09:04:40
It is the same spacebar with 4 stems. This was the blood set until I reclaimed it.

Btw guys, I ideally need about 10-14 more sets. Then I can get some extras to sell for negligible investment and try and make some money off of this, as well as providing leftovers for those that didn't get in. As the price difference is only $3 at the next break I figure this is pretty reasonable.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 22 February 2012, 09:33:10
Ah ok, thx. Then here we go: (depending on iso will be available)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

ISO
1x Keyset

Country: DE
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: HWI on Wed, 22 February 2012, 09:42:36
Damn, lots of people jumped on this. Pretty awesome how cheap it's going to be.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 09:44:35
Yeah tell me where else can you find 104 sets of custom doubleshots for $65. Tkl for $45! XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 22 February 2012, 09:48:01
Quote from: hashbaz;521006
I have a blank WASD menu key, and yeah the profile is different from SP.  Not as different as SP is from Cherry though.

I just added some NIOR blanks to my Round 4 order.  Looks like it might actually end, too.  I'm surprised how many people actually *want* a Windows logo on their super key.  Suum cuique.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 10:23:33
7bit is still selling blanks? Interesting, I figured that the wiki info was outdated relative to the OP's.

Regardless, I am probably going to start taking orders for biohazard keys starting immediately after this closes (in a week or less.)

I was also just looking through some made to stock blanks SP has and they didn't have any modifier keys, but if they do then I'll probably pick some up to offer as well.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 10:35:57
Quote from: Jesterfox;521694
I have one Question: will the spacebar of the Ragnarok set fit on a Cherry G80 3000 LQCDE? (new Modell with Win-Keys) I know that I will need the compatibility kit for the stepped CapsLock and the ISO/104 kit too.

Yes the space bar from the base set will fit a G80-3000

Base set space bar
6.25 units, 118mm wide, 4 keymounts for Filco, Ducky and Cherry G80-3000 with 104/105 keys

11 keys add-on set space bar
7 units, 133mm wide, 3 keymounts, 57mm apart

Woa this would be awesome for the add on space bar instead since the one I proposed is centre stem, this one here fits any Cherry winkeyless board. Wonder if theres extra fee on this one? Can you check Rag?
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/1/1e/Universal701.png)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 22 February 2012, 10:57:54
Quote from: Ragnorock;521875
7bit is still selling blanks? Interesting, I figured that the wiki info was outdated relative to the OP's.

His robot script accepted my request.  That's not to say it won't get cut later, but for now....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 10:58:05
If they already produce it, then no. If not then yes. Do they? Are you saying you want that design for the add on kit? That doesn't remove any compatibility we have advertised correct?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Wed, 22 February 2012, 11:00:46
All the modifiers will work on filco keyboards, or they need to be modded?

I maybe add more kits actually :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 11:00:59
Quote from: Ragnorock;521900
If they already produce it, then no. If not then yes. Do they? Are you saying you want that design for the add on kit? That doesn't remove any compatibility we have advertised correct?

if theres extra cost disregard it then, i'm not a 100% sure if they already produced it or not. Yes thats the design I want for the add on kit, it adds to the compatibility, just makes it even more universal that's all.


Quote from: korne;521903
All the modifiers will work on filco keyboards, or they need to be modded?

I maybe add more kits actually :)
Everything on the base kit will fit the Filco TKL completely. the 104 add on kit will make it so it fits any Filco/Leopold 104 keyboard
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 11:04:34
Ill add it to my page long list of stuff to talk about then lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 11:06:25
Quote from: Ragnorock;521907
Ill add it to my page long list of stuff to talk about then lol.

:thumb:

Like i said if its a hassle disregard it since this will only make POS Cherry boards be able to use the space bar but not many people use POS keyboards
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 11:33:26
Quote from: Ragnorock;521829
Yeah tell me where else can you find 104 sets of custom doubleshots for $65. Tkl for $45! XD


This just cements further in my mind the idea that superbuys are not really worth the effort.  I think the only advantage to them is that you can get really obscure low-quantity stuff like language kits at good prices.

Note that this buy is being run a lot like R1 was.  One main kit, very few options, take it or leave it.  I think R3 will end up being one-of-a-kind.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 22 February 2012, 12:56:32
Agreed that this makes a lot more sense.  Even R4 seems like it could have been split up to be less confusing without really changing the price.  Somehow I doubt the quantity of SPH sets affects the price of the RETRO sets, etc.  I eventually wrapped my head around it, but it took a while.  If they were done as separate rounds, it may have gone faster.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 13:08:14
Quote from: tsangan;521909
:thumb:

Like i said if its a hassle disregard it since this will only make POS Cherry boards be able to use the space bar but not many people use POS keyboards

I've got lots to cover so if its only for POS keyboards I may pass on bringing it up but we'll see.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 13:34:04
Quote from: Ragnorock;522001
I've got lots to cover so if its only for POS keyboards I may pass on bringing it up but we'll see.
Sure thing :llama:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Wed, 22 February 2012, 14:16:15
I want to update my order with:

Ragnarok
2x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

(I had only 1 "Ragnarok) so +1 ragnarok and +1 104
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 14:38:39
Quote from: litster;520652
Thank you for all the Windows 8 logo support!  Here is a list of people who have pledged to chip in for the Windows 8 logo setup fee.

litster
demik
tsangan
snowboarder3
kisakuku
WRXChris
RColintaylor
biochem

I can't wait for Windows 8 beta.  All the new cool features.  Did you see the new skydrive integration?  I will need to buy one of those Samsung tablets to run Windows 8 beta on.  A tablet that I can plug aany of my keyboards directly onto and get 100% key coverage, unlike iPad.  Imagine that!  :D


Looks like you guys owe me $3.50 each, unless there were more guys who chipped in after. Litster if you want to send me an updated list whenever you get a final count that would be appreciated.

Here's my list of things to discuss in my email/phone call to Melissa, am I forgetting anything?

Would like some blank modifiers
Biohazard keys, ESC and Mod- How much would it cost to add 2 extra mods so users have a choice between Win8 and Biohazard
Win 8 and Biohazard SVGs
Tell her current counts
Confirm Filco Leo Spacebar
Arrows on shift keys being standard, legends on certain keys being standard.
Mention Nyancat Backspace tolerance
11 key compatibility kit, not 9 keys
ISO keyset
The guys on GH are calling DCS WYSE font, should I get them to just call it DCS?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 22 February 2012, 14:40:20
Quote from: Ragnorock;522087
Looks like you guys owe me $3.50 each, unless there were more guys who chipped in after. Litster if you want to send me an updated list whenever you get a final count that would be appreciated.

Here's my list of things to discuss in my email/phone call to Melissa, am I forgetting anything?

Would like some blank modifiers
Biohazard keys, ESC and Mod- How much would it cost to add 2 extra mods so users have a choice between Win8 and Biohazard
Win 8 and Biohazard SVGs
Tell her current counts
Confirm Filco Leo Spacebar
Arrows on shift keys being standard, legends on certain keys being standard.
Mention Nyancat Backspace tolerance
11 key compatibility kit, not 9 keys
ISO keyset
The guys on GH are calling DCS WYSE font, should I get them to just call it DCS?
Nice agenda you got there :rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 22 February 2012, 15:00:41
Quote from: litster;520652
Thank you for all the Windows 8 logo support!  Here is a list of people who have pledged to chip in for the Windows 8 logo setup fee.
Quote


litster
demik
tsangan
snowboarder3
kisakuku
WRXChris
RColintaylor
biochem
pjpettis

One more.  That's all.  Thanks!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 15:02:19
>.> Fine I'll chip in a buck and you guys can expect $3 added to your order. Btw if you didn't notice I might be offering both biohazard and windows keys so everyone can be happy, but only if it will be negligibly different in expense. I mean it should only add like a dollar to the order for a couple of extra mod keys, since I said I would cover the legend fee, but if it changes the price too much I don't want to do it so people don't think I'm trying to price gouge after people buy in.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: daerid on Wed, 22 February 2012, 15:27:26
Oh what the hell, I've got a QuickFire w/ Reds, those Ragnaroks would be perfect for it.

I'm in for 1x Ragnarok
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 15:35:41
Okay so I am going to triple check here, for the ISO kit we need these keys:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41370[/ATTACH]

Those are all the keys I cross-examined with an ANSI Filco that are different. Whether the ISO guys are super picky about legends and want this, or want to just go with an enter key and everything but the number keys in the top left is up to you guys. I'm composing my email right now so you guys don't have long to weigh in. If I get no response I'm just going with all 9 keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 22 February 2012, 16:52:15
Err that's a specific language layout, the UK one. I'm not sure about the other orders, but at least 3 of them are German ones, and at least my idea behind the ISO kit never was to offer language layouts as that would be insane. High prices, low quantities, =>round4. ;P

I thought about a cheap ISO kit with 4 keys (yes, just 4!) that creates a US ISO layout. Like this one, just 105, not 104 (this one still has a long left shift, so there's one more row4 key needed, it's just like a 1unit modifier):
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Cherry-8113-G80-8113LRCUS-PS2-Keyboard-w-touchpad-white-keyswitches-/110748801790?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9249afe
It would fit every ISO board, and it is in fact an existing layout. AND it is the cheapest solution - you need 4 keys anyway to make it fit: JRET, 1.25 shift, an additional row 4 key where the long shift was, and a row 3 one where the longer part of the ANSI enter was.

Anyway, it's up to you to decide. A full language layout is 1. expensive and 2. is just for one country after all, so => even less orders and even higher prices. I'd actually be more than willing to pay them (I'll lose a significant amount of money in round 4, lol), but I'm not sure about others, and I thought it might be nice to establish a standardized, cheap and easy ISO AddOn kit that can be used in all future group buys, too. Any other opinions on this? As I said, I'm pretty much happy with every solution as long as I get my keys, and I think I might even get 4-5 orders for a full German layout with some advertising, but that's still really not much...

Quote from: demik;521294
though chances are of getting a matching spacebar with PBT is up in the air.


Matching white shouldn't be such a problem, I think.

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;521481
I only want the 1.75x shift, one diamond, and one star. The rest of 8 keys can be yours (or anyone else that wants to split).


So you don't need two 1unit mods and the 1.5 ones? I might be a tad interested in those 4.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 16:59:03
Quote from: Zehkul;522196
Err that's a specific language layout, the UK one. I'm not sure about the other orders, but at least 3 of them are German ones, and at least my idea behind the ISO kit never was to offer language layouts as that would be insane. High prices, low quantities, =>round4. ;P

I thought about a cheap ISO kit with 4 keys (yes, just 4!) that creates a US ISO layout. Like this one, just 105, not 104 (this one still has a long left shift, so there's one more row4 key needed, it's just like a 1unit modifier):
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Cherry-8113-G80-8113LRCUS-PS2-Keyboard-w-touchpad-white-keyswitches-/110748801790?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9249afe

Anyway, it's up to you to decide. A full language layout is 1. expensive and 2. is just for one country after all, so => even less orders and even higher prices. I'd actually be more than willing to pay them (I'll lose a significant amount of money in round 4, lol), but I'm not sure about others, and I thought it might be nice to establish a standardized, cheap and easy ISO AddOn kit that can be used in all future group buys, too. Any other opinions on this? As I said, I'm pretty much happy with every solution as long as I get my keys, and I think I might even get 4-5 orders for a full German layout with some advertising, but that's still really not much...



Matching white shouldn't be such a problem, I think.



So you don't need two 1unit mods and the 1.5 ones? I might be a tad interested in those 4.
You would be surprised how many whites there are and how difficult it is to match them. So the 4 keys you need for ISO compatibility are everything but the `123 in the top left of my image, correct? I need to know the legends as well as where they are on the board. I already sent my email to Melissa, so please clarify this as soon as possible.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:36:01
Hm, the picture is a UK layout, thats some part of the difference. The really necessary keys are the enter, left shift, the key right of the left shift and the key on row 3 left from enter (should have \ on it for US or the ~# on your picture)

US ISO should look like this: http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo14/diaz0000/IMG_20110427_173420.jpg but with an extra Key near the left shift.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:43:12
In for 1 Ragnarok and 1 104kit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:47:21
Quote from: mickd;522263
In for 1 Ragnarok and 1 104kit.

What I love about this Group Buy is that the prices are starting to come down on this Keyset.

More and more people are joining the fun.  This is what a Group Buy should be like.  Easy, no fuss, simple and above all else CHEAP.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:48:17
75
16
24
5

These numbers make me happy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 22 February 2012, 17:51:12
Those numbers are from awhile ago too, I think ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:10:05
Quote from: Ragnorock;522203
You would be surprised how many whites there are and how difficult it is to match them. So the 4 keys you need for ISO compatibility are everything but the `123 in the top left of my image, correct?


The .@ one is also redundant. Nice for UK guys legend wise, but not needed for ISO compatibility. That's really just JRET, 1.25 shift and one 1unit row 4 (legend: no idea) + 1unit row 3 (legend: |\) each.

Quote from: Jesterfox;522253
Hm, the picture is a UK layout, thats some part of the difference. The really necessary keys are the enter, left shift, the key right of the left shift and the key on row 3 left from enter (should have \ on it for US or the ~# on your picture)

US ISO should look like this: http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo14/diaz0000/IMG_20110427_173420.jpg but with an extra Key near the left shift.


This, basically. The additional key? Don't know. Any kind of legend would look dorky, imo, the one you'll usually find on ISO boards there is something with | or <>, but all symbols already are at other places on the board in this US ISO. I'd suggest a nice novelty thingy, star thingy or whatever, but I really don't mind other ideas. :-P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:14:53
Yeah I have been sitting here searching for what the legend for that 4th key should be for the last hour or more. It would really be nice if someone came up with something useful to the ISO people that doesn't require a custom legend...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:34:51
We aren't many, we should be able to agree upon something. ;P

Do you need the legend now? The win/biohazard stuff has been going on for a while, too.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 18:38:50
No, I have the prices. Win/Biohazard has been decided. Windows won. I'm going to open up another group buy for that key shortly though. I have a bunch of new info I just got from Melissa but my GF is playing Skyrim at the moment so I'm reading. I'll get it up later tonight, hopefully alongside a Nyanleftovers thread.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 22 February 2012, 19:02:01
Quote from: Ragnorock;522109
>.> Fine I'll chip in a buck and you guys can expect $3 added to your order. Btw if you didn't notice I might be offering both biohazard and windows keys so everyone can be happy, but only if it will be negligibly different in expense. I mean it should only add like a dollar to the order for a couple of extra mod keys, since I said I would cover the legend fee, but if it changes the price too much I don't want to do it so people don't think I'm trying to price gouge after people buy in.


Thank you!  Offering both would be great if it doesn't add much to the cost!  Everyone happy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:20:22
75+ base kits

25+ 104 add ons


Woot!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:27:20
Come on!  7 more Tsangan Compatibility Sets to get down to $21, a $10 discount!  If you are getting a compatibility set, it may be worth it to get a second set.  Think about it, 1 set $31 at current discount, 2 sets for $42 at the next discount level.  Call now!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:28:17
Quote from: litster;522693
Come on!  7 more Tsangan Compatibility Sets to get down to $21, a $10 discount!  If you are getting a compatibility set, it may be worth it to get a second set.  Think about it, 1 set $31 at current discount, 2 sets for $42 at the next discount level.  Call now!

Ragnorocks are standing by!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:41:18
Quote from: hashbaz;522696
Ragnorocks are standing by!

:rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:52:51
Okay so... here goes.

ISO is probably not going to work out. There simply aren't enough people and I found out today that because the J shape return can't be run with everything else, it makes the set obscenely expensive in low quantities. If we were doing large volumes of this, it  wouldn't be a problem, but since we've only got 6 buyers, it isn't looking good. I would cringe to ask these guys to pay $51 if we make it to 10 orders, and simply refuse to make people pay nearly $100 for 4 keys. I know a lot of you guys said that you would pay almost any price to get them, but I don't think even you guys can justify that. Losing 6 orders kinda hurts, but at this point not enough to cause anyone else much effect, though every ISO order has either a combatability or 104 kit tacked on to it.

Filco Leo spacebar has been confirmed, though it wasn't in there initially. There was a slight price increase but I absorbed it in the padding from rounding up to the next dollar in my initial quotes. A bit less profit but w/e.

Biohazard requires quite a lot more setup fees than anticipated. Its $45 for each key type, so if I do a mod key with it for this I'd have to cover that myself, which I don't feel like doing as much. I figured I could stomach the $25 no problem but this looks more and more like it is suited for its own group buy. There will be another $45 to do an esc key, but if we get lots of orders that figure disappears quick. I just need to remember to collect it at the end, because thus far in all of my group buys I have forgotten every time. That's like $200 in mistakes so far lol.

However, not counting the legend fees, the prices would go up to these, if anyone is interested:
75 sets          $47.93 / set
100 sets        $44.54 / set


Not too bad for an extra couple of keys, but like I said its probably not going to happen since I don't like making changes to the price structure and I would be inclined to add another $.45-.60 per order to cover the fees. I was thinking it would be an extra dollar, not 3.

Tsangan keyset price increase was where I expected, basically another dollar. No big deal there and I don't expect it to change anyone's mind, especially when this has gotten so cheap.

This is specifically directed at Hazeluff, but here is quote what Melissa said about the Biohazard and Windows 8 SVGs:

Quote
The spacing between the boxes on the windows 8 logo is a little too small, but I can make this minor modification before we create it. The biohazard is too large for the 'legendable space' - especially if you want it on a 1x1 keycap at some point. The legendable space for a modifier (which I take to be a 1.25x) is 0.545" wide x 0.427" tall - this image is measuring 0.5347" x 0.5129". We are also going to loose a bit of the detail on the 'points' of the image as our cutter size doesn't go that small.

The complaint about losing detail with the cutter was expected, but yeah, it needs to be more square or something, I'm not sure what you need to change to make that work. Try and maximize it to what she said though, so it stays as large as possible.

I think thats all I can think of for now, but please read this and comment, its important.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:57:26
It all sounds good to me. Sounds like more hassle then its worth for a couple extra caps. But if everyone is wanting them I will go with the flow.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 22 February 2012, 23:59:30
I'd like to reiterate that just because we wouldn't be doing them in the group buy itself doesn't mean that we wouldn't ever get them. It would just mean that everyone that wants one would have to wait longer to complete their set since it would be in a separate group buy that would complete and go in after.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Thu, 23 February 2012, 00:15:58
I'm fine either way.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 00:17:05
Rag, not sure if I'm clear about this but.. for the windows 8 chip in, do we send litster the money now and you collect it from him or is it going to be added to our order. I'm pretty sure I read it but I just completely blanked out lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 00:19:07
I'm just going to add it to everyone's invoices. Just expect an extra $3 item on there between the 8 buyers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 00:19:48
got it, thanks!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:19:21
i'd prefer no biohazard in this set. i personally wouldn't use the key, and it doesn't seem like enough people want it to justify the price increase.

if tsangan kit hits around 15 i'll be in for one. i'm going to hold off and only get a tsangan for the cream cheese otherwise.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:28:06
Yeah the more I mull it over the more it belongs in a separate set with some friends ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:35:33
Quote from: mkawa;522811
i'd prefer no biohazard in this set. i personally wouldn't use the key, and it doesn't seem like enough people want it to justify the price increase.

if tsangan kit hits around 15 i'll be in for one. i'm going to hold off and only get a tsangan for the cream cheese otherwise.
Huh? Tsangan kit is already at 18.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 23 February 2012, 01:36:47
New order

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
1x Keyset

in the US
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 02:41:27
Quote from: Ragnorock;522824
Yeah the more I mull it over the more it belongs in a separate set with some friends ;)


Agreed. Seems like too much for this buy and I would definitely swoop one up in the GB!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Thu, 23 February 2012, 07:20:52
Quote from: Ragnorock;522730
$51 if we make it to 10 orders [...] nearly $100 for 4 keys


Wait - are you kidding? SP, why? That's just insane! 7unit spacebars + 4 expensive 1.5 mods and 2 even bigger keys being cheaper than ONE ****ING key? Argh. -.-

Oh well, there goes my dream of a cheap ISO kit to go with many group buys. We still basically need 25 people to buy the JRET, which means you can do specific language layouts anyway. Many keys are shared, should be possible to keep them under 30-40$. Just the JRET... 25 orders, really? And it's beyond me that even at 100 orders it's still 8-10$ (assuming that the other keys go down to 1$, more or less)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 February 2012, 09:29:12
Quote from: demik;522826
Huh? Tsangan kit is already at 18.
OP says it's a few orders away from hitting 23?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Thu, 23 February 2012, 09:31:51
I'm so far over my keyboard budget it's not even funny, but this set just looks too good... Thank God I don't share an account with my wife. :)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom/Tsangan/OCD kit
1x Keyset

Country: US
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Swede on Thu, 23 February 2012, 09:34:09
Those prises for the ISO hurts a bit, and they are not even language specific... I think I'll just order a set for my Poker instead.

But I'm going to wait until the end before changing the order to see if anyone else is willing to get a set.

Should have gone of the ANSI Phantom instead xD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Thu, 23 February 2012, 09:56:02
Hey rag. About the SVGs I make. Inkscape (my program) doesn't have the same size system as theirs. So it always ends up slightly bigger. She's always been scaling it down for us. So if the biohazard can be scaled down without problems, just do that. If not I'll rework it slightly so that it does.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 11:53:04
I dunno, the way she said it made it seem like it needed to be made more square first or something. The whole point of SVGs is that they can be scaled perfectly, but for some reason she didn't just say yeah no problem.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 23 February 2012, 11:56:45
Quote from: mkawa;523039
OP says it's a few orders away from hitting 23?


Then why are you worried about 15?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:14:33
4 of the 6 ISO orders I have are Combatability orders btw. I have 5 unread PMs in my inbox though.

I'm also still thinking about capping orders at 95, so I can order a few extra and sell them as leftovers... nobody said anything last time but if you do the math that gives me a pretty reasonable opportunity to make some money with this, while everyone only ends up paying a couple of bucks more. I'd restate all the justification behind this, but if you've been following the thread you should know by now.

Basically if we hit that, and ISO is like 1 away from hitting 15 or something, I'll accept one of those orders to get people their discount, it isn't meant to prevent anyone from getting a discount they need, just to give me an opportunity to earn something for all of this time I've invested. This group buy has already required more work than normal.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Lamaboi on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:14:38
It's remarkable how low the prices are for this set compared to R4 :|
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:22:58
Quote from: demik;523191
Then why are you worried about 15?

I am going to buy the winning lottery ticket when I know the winning numbers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:36:31
Quote from: demik;523191
Then why are you worried about 15?
because i have a limited amount of money and would much rather use it to buy a compat kit for tsangan's cream cheese set?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:43:18
After reading my PMs we passed 15 not including the ISO orders, so don't worry about that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glockateer on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:50:42
I'd take a ragnarok one if I could order it in 104 size.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 12:51:13
You can. Follow the OP.

Edit: Just got another email back from Melissa, apparently she screwed up her quote for the base set, so my padding by rounding up to the next dollar stopped cutting it. Had to round up to the next dollar, so prices went up a whole buck! Sorry for any inconvenience, but I figured at these prices you don't really care.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glockateer on Thu, 23 February 2012, 13:19:23
1x Ragnarok
1x 104 kit
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Thu, 23 February 2012, 13:49:09
Well there goes my dream of a really cool G80 with ergo clears and doubleshots... (just got a G80 MX Blue for modding the switches...)

It would be cool, but I fear we don't find 4 more people for the iso kit...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Thu, 23 February 2012, 14:18:15
Okay, I've got one last idea: We all go get blanks from R4, those are there anyway, and the ISO kit hence just contains 3 keys, 4 minus the JRET. I'd gladly help everyone getting the codes right.

3 keys with no JRET should be cheap, right? You can never be sure with SP... :/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 14:44:44
You want to just get blank JRETs from R4? And then the ISO kit only has everything but? That would work, if you still believe round 4 will end. It is the JRET that is messing everything up for that kit, that's certain. I don't want to lose the orders, nor do I want to charge such a ridiculous price for it, so IF you can find blank JRETs from 7bit, that is a good idea. I would contact him and confirm that they are going to be offered.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Thu, 23 February 2012, 14:53:52
There are blank JRETs: BLANK/BLANKJRET/BLACK. (Call me a nerd, but to me the whole round 4 ordering process is 100% logical) You can even order PBTs, I've already got several other JRETs on my order list, and yes, round 4 is going to end, in 9 days. It will still take more time from then than this GB I think, but it's not something about endless months of waiting.

We can still wait for other ISO orders, but I don't believe in miracles. :/ What do the other ISO folks think?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 15:01:34
I sent Melissa an email for the 3 key ISO set without the JRET, should get something back within the hour. I'm still not holding my breath on R4, since it has been going since the day before I joined here.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:05:48
Ragnorock, PM'ed you to add one more set of base set to my order.

Ragnarok
 2x Keyset (Total)
 
Phantom
 1x Keyset

Country: US

Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Thu, 23 February 2012, 16:46:45
Hm... that would be a possibility. I still have some keys on R4 because I need a space bar for my Raptorgaming K1. Adding a blank J-ret should be no problem.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Thu, 23 February 2012, 18:05:21
Edit: Found the answer to my question.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 18:59:33
Okay, so I made the executive decision to change ISO to the 3 keys and not include the JRET. If you guys want one, you can get a blank from Round 4, or use your own. If I lose a couple of orders because it is not complete, so be it, but I think it is much more reasonable to charge the new prices than the old. Sorry it didn't work out the way we hoped, but I said from the starts, no promises with ISO. At least this way we can offer it. Please see the OP for details.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:14:22
You might want to mention it in the invoices going out to ISO buyers... I've seen some peeps ignore the group buy thread after placing their order and not be too happy about the results.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:20:06
Quote from: Ragnorock;523227
I'm also still thinking about capping orders at 95, so I can order a few extra and sell them as leftovers... nobody said anything last time but if you do the math that gives me a pretty reasonable opportunity to make some money with this, while everyone only ends up paying a couple of bucks more. I'd restate all the justification behind this, but if you've been following the thread you should know by now.
If it gets to that will we be paying the 75 set pricing at $46 or 100 set pricing at $43?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:27:51
$46. Its 3 dollars, still half what it cost in R4. Those 3 dollars give me the opportunity to actually make some money here.

I will mention it in the invoice to the ISO buyers, in fact when orders close I intend to send each ISO buyer a PM reminding them of their actual order contents.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:31:15
Will that not mean everyone is donating $3 towards you? At 95 buyers that's $285 which you can purchase another almost 7 sets for free and probably sell them off at a premium?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:33:49
Yep, that's the idea. Like I said from the start I would only do that if it was already cheap for everyone. I we were struggling to get to 50 or even 75 buyers, I wouldn't be considering it. But seeing as how the next discount is minuscule anyways I think it's pretty reasonable I be given the opportunity to sell some leftovers that I wouldn't be able to cover the purchasing costs for. This was all discussed earlier, how did you miss it? We're also almost certain to end up right around that number anyways, so whether I capped it or not the result would probably be the same.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 February 2012, 20:52:17
i don't think any of us are going to die if rag makes a couple hundred off of this GB... that barely pays for the time he's invested up to now, and the keys haven't even been ordered from SP yet.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 21:51:03
I'm all for people to maker some cash. Intensive to do some more GB's!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Thu, 23 February 2012, 22:20:33
Quote from: ripster;520747
Nerds will like it.
Magritte fans like myself will not.  Too literal.
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Ah!  My all-time favorite artist, since I was 8 and my mother had to literally DRAG me out of the museum's special visiting exhibit.   I saw a fabulous collection in Montreal in the 1990s too.  Ah!   :-)

I see hashbaz's point., and if it looks like hazeluff's mockup I'm on board with the red-pane-of-death key instead of a red Pirate skull... but hold the phone!  I just read tell of a BIOHAZARD OS-agnostic symbol key.  Now THAT sounds like a total winner to me.  :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 23 February 2012, 22:48:26
Quote from: captain;523872
Ah!  My all-time favorite artist, since I was 8 and my mother had to literally DRAG me out of the museum's special visiting exhibit.   I saw a fabulous collection in Montreal in the 1990s too.  Ah!   :-)

I see hashbaz's point., and if it looks like hazeluff's mockup I'm on board with the red-pane-of-death key instead of a red Pirate skull... but hold the phone!  I just read tell of a BIOHAZARD OS-agnostic symbol key.  Now THAT sounds like a total winner to me.  :-)
I will be doing the Biohazard group buy shortly, keep an eye out for it. Due to the cutting fees I can't really add it to the current group buy without increasing the price by a few dollars.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bionicroach on Thu, 23 February 2012, 23:52:10
1x Ragnarok
1x 104

USA
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 23 February 2012, 23:54:27
Quote from: Ragnorock;523760
Yep, that's the idea. Like I said from the start I would only do that if it was already cheap for everyone. I we were struggling to get to 50 or even 75 buyers, I wouldn't be considering it. But seeing as how the next discount is minuscule anyways I think it's pretty reasonable I be given the opportunity to sell some leftovers that I wouldn't be able to cover the purchasing costs for. This was all discussed earlier, how did you miss it? We're also almost certain to end up right around that number anyways, so whether I capped it or not the result would probably be the same.


So... other people who want sets can't get one so you can take advantage of free sets? Not trying to be rude/disrespectful or anything, but I don't really think this was discussed in the original post. Sure, you said there was no magic number, but at the same time you never said you would artificially limit the number of orders so that you can take advantage of the non existent magic number. Count me out of this GB if numbers are going to be limited. That's not what I signed up for.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:02:04
i actually agree. the more the merrier.

like you said it almost certainly won't make a difference, so if we do hit 100, hold a couple dollars back on each order and pick up extras with the remainder (most of us sane people will want you to do this even if just so that you have replacement keys etc anyway)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:02:43
Quote from: snowboarder3;523967
So... other people who want sets can't get one so you can take advantage of free sets? Not trying to be rude/disrespectful or anything, but I don't really think this was discussed in the original post. Sure, you said there was no magic number, but at the same time you never said you would artificially limit the number of orders so that you can take advantage of the non existent magic number. Count me out of this GB if numbers are going to be limited. That's not what I signed up for.

... You're assuming that there are even going to be more than 95 orders. I got 1 more order today, and lost one earlier. We've got another 9 to go and I said a while ago that if we got plenty of orders I would close it early to get it rolling. Everyone was expecting we might get 50 orders... not double that. If we were to suddenly jump above 100 orders in the next couple of days, of course I'm not going to tell a dozen guys they can't get their keys so I can make some money. This group buy has never been about me making money, the profit potential simply isn't there if I have to invest in buying leftover sets to sell. I was only asking if it was cool with everyone if I could take advantage of the quantity discount so I could make this worth the enormous amount of time it consumes. Its 3 whole dollars... on a set that thanks to me you guys actually are going to get, at half the cost it was going to be when it got pulled. If that is a problem then I guess I'll stop doing these and leave them to other guys who are using the same sort of principles to make money. The difference is that I am completely open about it and welcome discussion and criticism of it. So far you're the first to voice a negative opinion on it.

I suppose if the discount and me making money isn't the problem, and limiting the number of orders is, I could leave it open to as many people as we get, but not share the 100 quantity discount (unless we magically get to near 150 etc, but that isn't going to happen,) but that isn't something I would ever do without approval.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:07:55
Quote from: Ragnorock;523976

... You're assuming that there are even going to be more than 95 orders. I got 1 more order today, and lost one earlier. We've got another 9 to go and I said a while ago that if we got plenty of orders I would close it early to get it rolling. Everyone was expecting we might get 50 orders... not double that. If we were to suddenly jump above 100 orders in the next couple of days, of course I'm not going to tell a dozen guys they can't get their keys so I can make some money. This group buy has never been about me making money, the profit potential simply isn't there if I have to invest in buying leftover sets to sell. I was only asking if it was cool with everyone if I could take advantage of the quantity discount so I could make this worth the enormous amount of time it consumes. Its 3 whole dollars... on a set that thanks to me you guys actually are going to get, at half the cost it was going to be when it got pulled. If that is a problem then I guess I'll stop doing these and leave them to other guys who are using the same sort of principles to make money. The difference is that I am completely open about it and welcome discussion and criticism of it. So far you're the first to voice a negative opinion on it.

I suppose if the discount and me making money isn't the problem, and limiting the number of orders is, I could leave it open to as many people as we get, but not share the 100 quantity discount (unless we magically get to near 150 etc, but that isn't going to happen,) but that isn't something I would ever do without approval.


I'm all for you making money off of the "magic number." I don't really have a problem with the number of orders being limited either to ensure that. I just don't like things changing mid buy.
To elaborate, if we get to 76 and it's enough to buy 100, boom thats 24 sets for you. I'd hope you would give some away/auction and give some money to GH or something, but I have 0 problem with you selling the other 20 for profit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:17:08
Quote from: snowboarder3;523985
I'm all for you making money off of the "magic number." I don't really have a problem with the number of orders being limited either to ensure that. I just don't like things changing mid buy.
To elaborate, if we get to 76 and it's enough to buy 100, boom thats 24 sets for you. I'd hope you would give some away/auction and give some money to GH or something, but I have 0 problem with you selling the other 20 for profit.

Hey, just noticed that you are from the Washpington State!  Welcome!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:25:12
This has all been discussed already, but yes, there has been suggestions of raffling/auctioning off extras that everyone contributed to, but there is no really fair way to do that. I would actually make less money if I stopped at 99 orders, since I would only have one extra set to sell for profit, but if that happened I would get whatever the discount is worth of money for free. Instead I prefer to offer extra sets to people that missed out on ordering in the actual group buy, which requires me to work for it. I see your point though, I did say in the OP that I wouldn't cut the orders short to jew people out of a discount. It was said when I was thinking we might get 50 orders, and I wouldn't limit it to 45-49 or w/e. I suppose it still applies, though I did say later that I may close it early if we hit really good order counts and it then stalls at a certain number... that was meant to get it moving quickly, not cut orders. Btw the numbers aren't anything close to yours, its more like 94 is the same price as 100. 95 requires I spend money to do it, that's why I picked it.

Anyways, we're talking about me selling 5 sets for ~$250-300. I normally expect/want to make between $500-1000 for each group buy I do. The $1 collected on top of each order usually ends up getting eaten in packaging, gas, and misc costs, so it really is a handling fee. There is a bit of markup on the bubble mailers, but those aren't even being used here... so really the only way I'm going to make any money is selling those... and even then its much less than I would normally get. The reward for everyone isn't a couple of free sets to some lucky members, or donations to iMav, its that I keep doing these for everyone, my group buys are extremely well organized and efficient, but that takes a lot of my limited time- so it better be worth it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Kisakuku on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:46:23
Quote from: Ragnorock;524000
I did say in the OP that I wouldn't cut the orders short to jew people out of a discount.


Priceless.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mike Rowe on Fri, 24 February 2012, 00:53:47
I have no problem with Ragnorock making some money considering the amount of time he's investing in it. Atleast he's being open about it
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 01:02:51
Quote from: Kisakuku;524016
Priceless.
iknorite? Lol I never expected to hit this many orders. I was thinking 75 tops! :rofl:

Let me make it clear though, I wouldn't be asking to do this if it was anything less than the 100 discount. That price break is so small I didn't think anyone would care.

Edit: Also I'm not saying I AM doing it, I'm saying that I'm considering it, so that everyone can discuss it like we are now. If the feedback is positive, then I may just go back on my word in the OP, but it would only be with the consent of everyone. Its up to you guys really whether you think I should make some money here or not. It does help me justify all the time I spend on here to the GF, just sayin'.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Fri, 24 February 2012, 02:13:25
Don't cut the orders short. Just say that if it goes above 100 orders the price is $45. Then you still make money and can order however many extra sets that money will cover. Win-win, everybody who wants in can get in and you still make some well-earned cheddar. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 02:14:28
That sounds reasonable, thoughts?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Fri, 24 February 2012, 02:17:26
The more time you spend here the more chance of us getting cheap as hell doubleshot sets like this so I'm all for it haha.  It's only fair that you pocket something from all this, you're the one going to all the effort organizing it, the rest of us are merely paying bugger all for a set of desirable keys, that's how I see it anyway.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: HWI on Fri, 24 February 2012, 02:54:47
$45 is still really cheap for a set of double shots imo, so it's cool with me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Fri, 24 February 2012, 03:19:46
That was exactly what I was going to suggest, and actually, that's how I read the original post.  I didn't get any hint that order taking was about to stop!  In fact, I need to add 104 and phantom to both of my sets!

I was thinking that maybe if the profit margin is great enough, and Ragnarok takes a nice profic, that the 104, Phantom, and ISO add-on sets might get some subsidy love....  What does everyone think of that?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 03:29:07
Quote from: HWI;524094
$45 is still really cheap for a set of double shots imo, so it's cool with me.

Upon re thinking everything. I agree. Apologies for coming off wrong rag. If you want to make some money for spending so much time on this GB, by all means please do. Please don't cancel my order :)

If it were a big discount from 75 -> 100 but nobody got the discount that might be a different case. But 3 bucks aint ****, I mean, I'm paying more than that to have a win logo made.

Again, apologies if I came off wrong :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Fri, 24 February 2012, 03:42:17
It appears that every time a Rag gb pops up people have their feelings about how the pricing/profit structure works. The thing that should be recognized is that prior to these types of buys the disclosure of profits/pricing was next to nil; the majority of organizers set a price, held the price, and made whatever money for the discounts that were achieved. Beginning with the SC2 keycap buy we began to see a growth in disclosure to the point where we, as buyers, were well aware of the discounts that SP gives to the count-tiers and in turn the actual price-per-caps structure.

Now, with this being said, I can plainly say that any group buy that tells me the lowest price of the caps, the reasoning behind it, and the price for manufacturing from SP is a group buy that I can be happy with. I like knowing what the caps are worth in terms of manufacturing and if I am paying for just that, the creation of the caps, and not a bunch of fees to make the organizer rich that is ideal. Having Dave make money from the extras by not giving us one more tier of discounts (of which is far less significant than what a 1x single key buy has available) may not be ideal but if I am still getting the keycaps for $46, $50, or even $55 I am happy because, well, its far cheaper than can be found in the classifieds for an 87 set of doubleshots or in RD4. Group Buys are run off of effort, and effort has to be funded, and if that funding is not ADDED to the price of what I am buying then great.

If people want to complain about pricing then go back and look at the TeamLiquid keycap buy. $4 for a group buy keycap and people bought them like sheep. Three months later I, and later Tsangan by proxy, sold keycaps for $.41 using the disclosure method institutionalized by Rag/Dave.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Fri, 24 February 2012, 03:52:58
The only thing we need now are 5 more people to buy a phantom kit... ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Fri, 24 February 2012, 04:13:48
No, 4 more ISO guys. ;P

Another thing, would the price drop a bit if one of the 3 keys was in fact the same as one offered in the Phantom/Tsangan kit? Both kits contain a row 4 1unit key that doesn't have a specific legend, just something that's supposed to look cool, so it could be the same key. I'm all in for a diamond or something like that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Fri, 24 February 2012, 04:38:25
Or 5 people buying both ;-)

Hm, looking at it I don't really need an extra row 4 key in the iso kit because I have the 2 keys from phantom that I could use (I need phantom only for the caps lock).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Fri, 24 February 2012, 04:57:06
Quote from: Ragnorock;524000
I normally expect/want to make between $500-1000 for each group buy I do.


At $15/hr (assuming a $750 profit) you'd have to put in 50 hours of solid work into the group buy. Bulllll****.

That being said I will take 5 sets.


On second thought, I'll take 0 sets.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Paulie on Fri, 24 February 2012, 05:50:07
Ok, I'm completely lost now. Can someone tell me what I need to order to cover everything on an ISO Compaq MX11800, that doesn't have winkeys?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Fri, 24 February 2012, 06:09:11
Something like this?
http://www.gpc-nord.de/ebay/tastatur_server_compaq1.jpg

Just order everything. There might be problems with different row profiles, especially with delete, end, page down, those are row 2 here and most likely row 1 on your board. But if that right shift is the same as the one in this tsangan kit (1.75?) then everything should at least fit on the stems. Oh, and you need BLANK/BLANKJRET/BLACK from round 4.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: duncan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 06:27:44
Quote from: gimpster;524078
Don't cut the orders short. Just say that if it goes above 100 orders the price is $45. Then you still make money and can order however many extra sets that money will cover. Win-win, everybody who wants in can get in and you still make some well-earned cheddar. :)


Sounds like a very decent plan/deal to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:03:00
Quote from: gimpster;524078
Don't cut the orders short. Just say that if it goes above 100 orders the price is $45. Then you still make money and can order however many extra sets that money will cover. Win-win, everybody who wants in can get in and you still make some well-earned cheddar. :)


PM'd for 1 set, and this seems to be a nice compromise.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:36:38
Looking at these prices, I really have to ask Melissa for a new price quote, because the difference is insane!

I obviously get higher prices for my group buy than Ragnarok gets.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:38:57
Quote from: 7bit;524178
Looking at these prices, I really have to ask Melissa for a new price quote, because the difference is insane!

I obviously get higher prices for my group buy than Ragnarok gets.

You don't say
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Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 24 February 2012, 07:53:38
Quote from: kaiserreich;524179
You don't say
...


The Ragnarok Doubleshot Red kit would cost around $60 without shipping (not even within US) and no sales tax (not mentioning VAT).

I think I will have to seriously talk to Melissa!

This may take a while...

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Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Lamaboi on Fri, 24 February 2012, 08:58:27
Soo, RAGNAROK price per set is at 46.00 USD now? That's really cheap for a tenkeyless set compared to R4, quite tempting...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 09:50:22
Quote from: BiNiaRiS;524133
At $15/hr (assuming a $750 profit) you'd have to put in 50 hours of solid work into the group buy. Bulllll****.

That being said I will take 5 sets.


On second thought, I'll take 0 sets.
Look man, I don't know what in the world your problem is, but you need to get a grip now. Every day, (not just the days orders are open or I'm collecting payment) after I get home from school I spend 2-6+ hours on here taking orders, maintaining threads, and answering questions. EVERY DAY. 50 hours doesn't even come close. With a handful of exceptions, there hasn't been a day in months that I haven't spent a significant portion of my free time working on stuff for this community, and for you to sit there from your desk down in Portland and come into pretty much only my threads and tell me that I haven't been working hard enough for the money I get in exchange for this group buy is the real bullsh!t. Get a life, or maybe run your own group buy and see how much effort it actually takes to do it well and keep it organized. Anyone can come on here, type up 100 words and say okay taking orders, and then do jack until orders close... then do a lazy job putting everything together and end up with a bunch of incorrect or missing orders... I don't do that. I try hard to give everyone on here the best group buy experience possible, and by and large the feedback I get says exactly that. If you don't find the terms to your liking, you don't buy, simple as that, but I find it extremely insulting for someone like you, who has never had any intention of buying from any of my group buys, to repeatedly come into my threads and try and undermine my operations as a seller. I have repeatedly asked you to stay out of my threads, but you lack the common courtesy to do even that. Whatever the chip on your shoulder is, going after me isn't going to fix it, and I'm not going to give you what you want... whatever THAT is.

Also 7bit I do believe that the reason your prices are higher is simply because it is a lot more work for them to keep track of running several vastly different set types and colors than it is to just do a lot of kits with one color. If you look at the first price tier, its pretty much in line with yours, but without knowing your counts its not like I have an idea where the discounts actually are. The question is whether you have enough of each kind of set to hit a price break or not... or you do and aren't passing it on (I doubt it.)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 24 February 2012, 09:56:00
You tell him Rag. He is definitely the minority. This gb is smooth as butter I love it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:03:16
Quote from: snowboarder3;524110
Upon re thinking everything. I agree. Apologies for coming off wrong rag. If you want to make some money for spending so much time on this GB, by all means please do. Please don't cancel my order :)

If it were a big discount from 75 -> 100 but nobody got the discount that might be a different case. But 3 bucks aint ****, I mean, I'm paying more than that to have a win logo made.

Again, apologies if I came off wrong :)
yayyyy everyone is happy! 3 cheers for fearless leader rag. also if it wasn't clear before, 45 is beyond fine with me. again, the more the merrier.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:04:11
Quote from: 7bit;524183
The Ragnarok Doubleshot Red kit would cost around $60 without shipping (not even within US) and no sales tax (not mentioning VAT).

I think I will have to seriously talk to Melissa!

This may take a while...

[--------0% done--------------------------------]
no offense 7bit, but please keep in mind that your gb is insane. we're also paying for melissa's time when we throw these crazy requests at her.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:12:04
those nyan keys still blow my mind.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:23:53
Quote from: Ragnorock;524239
Look man, ... after I get home from school I spend 2-6+ hours on here taking orders, maintaining threads, and answering questions. EVERY DAY. 50 hours doesn't even come close. ...


I fully aggree!

It is quite time consuming. Even though the layout graphic for this had already been done and it is just a small group buy.
Quote from: Ragnorock;524239

Also 7bit I do believe that the reason your prices are higher is simply because it is a lot more work for them to keep track of running several vastly different set types and colors than it is to just do a lot of kits with one color. If you look at the first price tier, its pretty much in line with yours, but without knowing your counts its not like I have an idea where the discounts actually are. The question is whether you have enough of each kind of set to hit a price break or not... or you do and aren't passing it on (I doubt it.)
No, my profit from Round 3 was to be able to buy key caps for myself which I could not get otherwise.

The prices are higher because:
- I've got to pay the penalty of Round 3 super-low prices
- There are a bit higher shipping costs to me
- There is 19% VAT instead of ?? % sales tax
- 2 new space bar tools are calculated into the prices (SPH style).

The biggest problem are the prices from SP.

My original prices where based on Round 3 pricing and included all oher costs mentioned in the list above.


@Ragnorock:
- Please take as much profit from this as you can to make R4 look not too expensive!!!
- Also, it is fully OK to take some amount for you work, because it is time consuming!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:26:37
Quote from: ripster;524266
I'd be with 7bit til the very end of Group Key Buy Four but I may not live that long.


2012-02-31*: The day when Ripster dies!

Will there be a live TV coverage?


----------
*) 2nd March actually.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:26:49
Lol fair enough man. I suppose there is a significant advantage to being in the US for sure. I won't be raising prices though! We should probably coordinate so we don't do competing kits because I don't want to drive you out, hell I joined because Round 4 had SC2 caps at the time!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:39:24
Quote from: Ragnorock;524276
Lol fair enough man. I suppose there is a significant advantage to being in the US for sure. I won't be raising prices though! We should probably coordinate so we don't do competing kits because I don't want to drive you out, hell I joined because Round 4 had SC2 caps at the time!

If now someone starts a NOIR group buy, mabe I can get rid of that too and concentrate on what is left over. But before that, I really need to talk to Melissa, because the $60 I calculated based on the SP prices I get are without anything like I mentioned above, so prices for me are inacceptable.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Paulie on Fri, 24 February 2012, 10:52:16
Quote from: Zehkul;524151
Something like this?
http://www.gpc-nord.de/ebay/tastatur_server_compaq1.jpg

Just order everything. There might be problems with different row profiles, especially with delete, end, page down, those are row 2 here and most likely row 1 on your board. But if that right shift is the same as the one in this tsangan kit (1.75?) then everything should at least fit on the stems. Oh, and you need BLANK/BLANKJRET/BLACK from round 4.


That's the one. And thanks for that, it looks like this board is going to be troublesome because of it's non-standard layout. Never mind. :(
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Fri, 24 February 2012, 11:14:47
Quote from: lightsout714;524243
You tell him Rag. He is definitely the minority. This gb is smooth as butter I love it.

Please don't egg this on.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hazeluff on Fri, 24 February 2012, 11:17:54
Quote from: 7bit;524275
2012-02-31*: The day when Ripster dies!

Will there be a live TV coverage?


----------
*) 2nd March actually.

I'll stream and cast it on my justin.tv account.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 24 February 2012, 12:40:34
Quote from: Paulie;524148
Ok, I'm completely lost now. Can someone tell me what I need to order to cover everything on an ISO Compaq MX11800, that doesn't have winkeys?

Yes it will but you would need both the 11 keys add on kit for the 1.5x modifiers and stepped caps, as well as the 104 kit for the tenkeypad
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Fri, 24 February 2012, 12:54:05
Quote from: tsangan;524403
Yes it will but you would need both the 11 keys add on kit for the 1.5x modifiers and stepped caps, as well as the 104 kit for the tenkeypad


What about the row differences?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 18:41:19
OP updated again. Got a few, lost a few.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 24 February 2012, 22:53:10
V for Vendetta is one of my favorite movies lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: JC_III on Sat, 25 February 2012, 00:20:16
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

PM Sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KoolAidMan on Sat, 25 February 2012, 03:40:40
Quote from: 7bit;524178
Looking at these prices, I really have to ask Melissa for a new price quote, because the difference is insane!

I obviously get higher prices for my group buy than Ragnarok gets.

Please do. I'd love it if the NOIR set a similar price as this, and I don't see a reason it can't be given that nice white lettering on black key should be pretty standard/popular.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: duncan on Sat, 25 February 2012, 05:43:20
Quote from: Ragnorock;524752
OP updated again. Got a few, lost a few.

Might also be worth updating the OP to align the name of the add on set.
In some places it is 'Phantom', in others 'Tsangan's Combatibility Kit'. Might be a little confusing to people new to the thread.
Not a biggy but...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Sat, 25 February 2012, 05:44:38
Quote from: KoolAidMan;525324
Please do. I'd love it if the NOIR set a similar price as this, and I don't see a reason it can't be given that nice white lettering on black key should be pretty standard/popular.


Please don't. I want my national layout. ;-3

NOIR doesn't really make sense in a group buy like this one, IMO, you can get a standard white on black set anyway via Cherry double shots, it's the extras that make NOIR interesting.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: inlikeflynn on Sat, 25 February 2012, 08:59:06
Ragnarok
2 x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 25 February 2012, 10:18:25
Quote from: duncan;525369
Might also be worth updating the OP to align the name of the add on set.
In some places it is 'Phantom', in others 'Tsangan's Combatibility Kit'. Might be a little confusing to people new to the thread.
Not a biggy but...
Done. I got most of them but got sidetracked while updating other stuff.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Gus.s on Sat, 25 February 2012, 10:56:16
In for ragnarok x1. I m in US.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Sat, 25 February 2012, 13:09:14
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Phantom
1x Keyset

I'm in France
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: popol on Sat, 25 February 2012, 17:17:52
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
1x Keyset

Country: France

too bad there aren't black on red modifiers (ctrl shift and alts...)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 25 February 2012, 17:22:15
? This set includes the modifier keys...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sat, 25 February 2012, 17:23:25
Quote from: Ragnorock;525974
? This set includes the modifier keys...

Maybe he means reverse image?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 25 February 2012, 17:23:29
Quote from: popol;525969
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
1x Keyset

Country: France

too bad there aren't black on red modifiers (ctrl shift and alts...)

You could get the modifiers from hashbaz's gb for the controls. They're only going for like $80ish a set.:rofl:

 No ideas about the shift and alts though. =\
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: popol on Sat, 25 February 2012, 17:24:02
Quote from: Ragnorock;525974
? This set includes the modifier keys...

yes but red on black. I was just imagining how cool these modifier keys would be Black on Red  :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Sat, 25 February 2012, 17:25:55
Quote from: popol;525980
yes but red on black. I was just imagining how cool these modifier keys would be Black on Red  :)
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That WOULD be super-coolicious.  I doubt it's gonna happen.  I'd be interested.

EDIT: Actually...  I'm interested in EVERYTHING.  Too many good ideas.  Here, I'm just gonna post my PayPal username and password.  From now on, when you think of something I'm going to want it.  So, from now on, just take money out of my PayPal account and send me the item.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 25 February 2012, 18:14:09
Sigh... trust me guys, its not worth it. I mentioned the last time this was brought up that if I was going to do another full set group buy it would be for Red Alert, which everyone has been clamoring over for ages. Black on red does look sick, its what my Realforce is, but its been done so many times already now isn't really a great time to do it again.

This is probably counter productive, but here, for reference:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]41744[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41745[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41746[/ATTACH]

The red used in doubleshots I have seen (LOD) is a lot more glossy than these are, and isn't something I would be crazy about having on my board. If someone else wants to start up a gb for it more power to you, but its not in my plans, at least not this year.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Sat, 25 February 2012, 18:22:17
Don't care for red on black really, I can find that easily. Realforce like you pointed has a set readily available.

It's more difficult to find red on black.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sat, 25 February 2012, 18:25:34
Quote from: WorldExclusive;526070
Don't care for red on black really, I can find that easily. Realforce like you pointed has a set readily available.

It's more difficult to find red on black.

^ You mean its harder to find black on red I assume.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Sat, 25 February 2012, 18:48:05
Quote from: dewaere;525719
I'm in France


Quote from: popol;525969
Country: France


Get ISO, then. :-3
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 25 February 2012, 18:52:20
Yeah I think he was agreeing with me. He just mixed it up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Sun, 26 February 2012, 01:33:01
ISO sux! ;}
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KoolAidMan on Sun, 26 February 2012, 02:19:43
Quote from: Zehkul;525370
Please don't. I want my national layout. ;-3

NOIR doesn't really make sense in a group buy like this one, IMO, you can get a standard white on black set anyway via Cherry double shots, it's the extras that make NOIR interesting.


I understand, I'm saying that I hope group buy 4 manages NOIR prices similar to this. This red 104 key set is much cheaper than NOIR is right now.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Oxblood on Sun, 26 February 2012, 17:28:04
Ragnarok
1x Keyset - 1

104
1x Keyset - 1


Country: Canada
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 26 February 2012, 17:35:05
usually, the mods are a darker color.

it would look ugly if you went with a brighter/lighter color IMO.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 26 February 2012, 17:56:57
If anyone is getting themselves a Tsangan kit but has no interest in the stepped-capslock let me know; I will pay ~$3 for that key alone and it will be removed from your order cost right from the get-go.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 26 February 2012, 17:58:14
Quote from: RColinTaylor;527292
If anyone is getting themselves a Tsangan kit but has no interest in the stepped-capslock let me know; I will pay ~$3 for that key alone and it will be removed from your order cost right from the get-go.

Its off centre stem, you know that right
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 26 February 2012, 18:00:00
Quote from: tsangan;527293
Its off centre stem, you know that right

Off centre?! why would anyone want one of those?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Sun, 26 February 2012, 18:27:37
Placing orders end on the 29th right? I want to add:

2 x Ragnarok

bringing my order to:

3 x Ragnarok

I will send an updated PM as soon as I can confirm shipping details. Of course I believe you mentioned that 3 sets can fit into one flat rate box and I'm going by that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 26 February 2012, 18:28:58
Quote from: RColinTaylor;527297
Off centre?! why would anyone want one of those?

for our phantoms!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 26 February 2012, 18:39:56
Quote from: demik;527328
for our phantoms!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat idea. Still mad about it though; I want a stepped capslock for style.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Sun, 26 February 2012, 21:14:32
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: Canada
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 26 February 2012, 21:21:11
Ragnarok
2x Keyset

Tsangan
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Country: US

I figure I'd stock up on extra bits even If I don't have a board that it fits... also don't mind gifting payment.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 26 February 2012, 22:41:17
EVERYONE GETTING THE TSANGAN 11 KEY ADD ON KIT

The stepped caps is OFF-CENTRED

I don't want people complaining afterwards
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 26 February 2012, 22:44:31
Yep, no problem.

I doubt I'll use it, but the thought of not having a full set for a particular keyboard would bug the hell out of me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 26 February 2012, 22:45:20
Quote from: Blazestorm;527606
Yep, no problem.

I doubt I'll use it, but the thought of not having a full set for a particular keyboard would bug the hell out of me.
Good choice :)

More people should think like you ^^
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 26 February 2012, 22:49:32
you and Colin are after people's wallets lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 27 February 2012, 00:02:14
Quote from: demik;527609
you and Colin are after people's wallets lol

He hard sells way more then me.

Also Hazel, have you seen him in his GB lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Mon, 27 February 2012, 00:10:20
Quote from: tsangan;527691
He hard sells way more then me.

"than me"

... Unless he sells so much that the only thing left to sell is YOU, which he then sells!  ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Mon, 27 February 2012, 00:12:48
Quote from: demik;527609
you and Colin are after people's wallets lol

Yea, I've added up my purchases in the past week or so, up over $500...

Why do I need 4 more keyboards? No idea.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Mon, 27 February 2012, 00:35:46
Quote from: tsangan;527691
He hard sells way more then me.

Also Hazel, have you seen him in his GB lol

I never hard sell. Hard selling implies pushing for what is unnecessary... I just point out the obvious.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Hatsuharu on Mon, 27 February 2012, 00:51:31
Ragnarok
1x Keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 27 February 2012, 00:53:14
And then I get PMs asking about some of my novelty keys and I tell the guy he can probably find a better deal elsewhere. Good guy Rag.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Mon, 27 February 2012, 01:02:19
The Tsangan's spacebar would fit the mini choc or the 1800? (ok i'm too lazy to calculate 7x)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Mon, 27 February 2012, 01:27:32
Yep, the stepped CapsLock needs to be off centered, because I need that for my Cherry G80 ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 27 February 2012, 01:39:45
Quote from: dewaere;527744
The Tsangan's spacebar would fit the mini choc or the 1800? (ok i'm too lazy to calculate 7x)


The 1800 shift will fit on the choc mini

Sadly nothing fits the choc mini's space bar, that thing is really really weird size.

I'm 95% sure that the Tsangan 11 keys add-on set with the base set will fit everything on the choc mini EXCEPT for the spacebar


Quote from: Jesterfox;527755
Yep, the stepped CapsLock needs to be off centered, because I need that for my Cherry G80 ;-)


I don't want people yelling at me after saying I didn't tell them
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Mon, 27 February 2012, 03:20:34
Oki thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Gus.s on Mon, 27 February 2012, 13:50:40
Rag, did you count me in for Tsangan pack? Not sure if you get my pm or not. Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 27 February 2012, 13:58:24
I'll double check when I get home, but I'm almost certain I did. I swear I sent you a pm about it.

Edit: yeah I got it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 27 February 2012, 19:21:41
Rag - have you gotten my PM?

thinking about maybe adding a Tsangan set to my original order.

but not sure, still a bit too much at current level to buy when I have no use for it yet. But may need in future if I decide to get choc mini or similar.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 27 February 2012, 19:23:02
Quote from: Ahlitah;528640
Rag - have you gotten my PM?

thinking about maybe adding a Tsangan set to my original order.

but not sure, still a bit too much at current level to buy when I have no use for it yet. But may need in future if I decide to get choc mini or similar.
Smart choice, always gotta think ahead :thumb:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: prava on Mon, 27 February 2012, 19:33:41
1x Ragnarok
1x Tsangan

(Spain)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Mon, 27 February 2012, 19:38:56
For anyone who's buying these for a KBT Pure, you'll need the Tsangan kit too, just thought I'd put that out there again seeings it's mentioned a fair few pages back now.. :biggrin1:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Mon, 27 February 2012, 23:48:05
We need one more Tsangan kit to put it to the 25-count price break!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 27 February 2012, 23:49:54
$10 discount for everyone!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Mon, 27 February 2012, 23:51:27
FIne, I will buy one.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Mon, 27 February 2012, 23:57:14
Quote from: RColinTaylor;528974
FIne, I will buy one.

WTF, just one? You really should buy 26 of them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:00:14
Quote from: metafour;528986
WTF, just one? You really should buy 26 of them.

I don't even have a board that these keys will fit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:01:03
Quote from: RColinTaylor;528974
FIne, I will buy one.
Instead of 1, if you get 26 of them everyone saves $19!!!!!!

Gotta plan for the future

:behindsofa:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:03:10
Obviously tsangan agrees. Change his order to 26!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:11:42
Quote from: litster;528968
We need one more Tsangan kit to put it to the 25-count price break!
? We already broke 25 lol. Comon guys I expected this to beat 104! Where is everyone we thought would want them?

We're at 27 now with RCT's order increase.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:14:09
if I get a 104 kit someone get a tsangan kit!

click for a clack
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:21:03
Quote from: Ragnorock;529001
We're at 27 now with RCT's order increase.

Oh I believe you're mistaken. RCT wants 26 of them not just 1. ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:21:13
Now that we are at 27 Tsangan kit.  Let's take a look these numbers:

Tsangan (Updated to include the extra 2 1x keys)
 
15 keysets $33.00
25 keysets $23.00
50 keysets $14.00

Everyone, double your Tsangan kit order!  If we make 50 sets, it will be $28 for 2 sets, instead of $23 for one set.  For $5 more, you get one more set.  Let's go!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:24:38
Lol your logic. "We hit the discount we were all hoping for!" "Yay!" "Alright now lets double our orders to negate half of it for keys we don't need!"

XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:32:28
Thats not a bad idea, I will double my order if other people do it!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:40:24
buddy system: everyone who's ordering one now pesters someone else who hasn't ordered until they order one ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:51:30
If tsangan do it, I will do it.  It is a super good deal!  $5 more for a second set!  Go go go!

The more you buy, the more you save!TM
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:52:07
if litster does it, ill do it too.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:55:39
Quote from: demik;529050
if litster does it, ill do it too.

If everyone else eventually does it I will too.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 00:56:51
add a second tsangan add on kit for me ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 28 February 2012, 01:09:34
I would be a dolchbag if I didn't do it myself since I started it.  And tsangan has already added one more.  So will I.  I will ad one more base kit as well.  Rag, going to PM you now!  I think I will need a bigger box.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Tue, 28 February 2012, 01:48:39
hmmmm....
Ok, I'm in.
I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
23x Keyset

Country: South Korea

I've just pm'ed.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 28 February 2012, 01:49:42
Quote from: Taeyoung;529079
hmmmm....
Ok, I'm in.
I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
23x Keyset

Country: South Korea

I've just pm'ed.

Whut.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 28 February 2012, 01:52:59
well ****, give me a tsangan kit then. PMing now

woah! my address was wrong in the original pm! good thing i ordered that tsangan kit lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 01:58:47
Quote from: Taeyoung;529079
hmmmm....
Ok, I'm in.
I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
23x Keyset

Country: South Korea

I've just pm'ed.
We love you.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: MKB on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:00:06
Will the the ragnarok keyset work with Filco 87 key and Leopold 87 Key?  Also will it work with Cherry MX or ALPS or both?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:00:17
Quote from: demik;529089
We love you.

South Koreans are such a wonderful bunch; such great taste in Keycaps.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:07:57
Quote from: MKB;529092
Will the the ragnarok keyset work with Filco 87 key and Leopold 87 Key?  Also will it work with Cherry MX or ALPS or both?
Cherry mx and yes works with filco/leopold


Looking at your sig im kind of disappointed you asked those questions.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:09:52
Quote from: demik;529100
Cherry mx and yes works with filco/leopold


Looking at your sig im kind of disappointed you asked those questions.

I was more concerned with the shouting but that too.

The Spacebar would be the only thing to be concerned about but in this case it will be a universal spacebar designed to fit both the Leopold and Filco stabilizer positions.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:26:12
Well now that they're so cheap, i'll add a tsangan kit to my order! PM sent.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:29:32
Quote from: Taeyoung;529079
hmmmm....
Ok, I'm in.
I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
23x Keyset

Country: South Korea

I've just pm'ed.

Hey Taeyoung!  Thanks for bumping us over to the next price break!  I was going to ask people to take a look at the price break at 75 sets and rehash the the whole "buy more, save more" logic.  But I think we are good.  

Taeyoung, get more base kits, too!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:30:57
Quote from: litster;529121
Hey Taeyoung!  Thanks for bumping us over to the next price break!  I was going to ask people to take a look at the price break at 75 sets and rehash the the whole "buy more, save more" logic.  But I think we are good.  

Taeyoung, get more base kits, too!

And also more 104 sets if you are feeling festive.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: MKB on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:49:10
Quote from: RColinTaylor;529104
I was more concerned with the shouting but that too.

The Spacebar would be the only thing to be concerned about but in this case it will be a universal spacebar designed to fit both the Leopold and Filco stabilizer positions.


I have reduced the font size.  It was a cut and paste error.  Thanks for the help!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:55:17
Quote from: Taeyoung;529079
hmmmm....
Ok, I'm in.
I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
23x Keyset

Country: South Korea

I've just pm'ed.

That's nice Taeyoung.

I guess that these are to couple with the Red Alert set for contrast?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Tue, 28 February 2012, 02:58:22
Quote from: Taeyoung;529079

I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)


Wait.. did that just happen? You should consider that man 104 kits too haha.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Tue, 28 February 2012, 04:03:37
Okay, I'll ask my friends for more orders of base kits. :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Tue, 28 February 2012, 05:44:18
South Korea is best Korea!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 28 February 2012, 07:12:23
Quote from: jonnybastard;529228
South Korea is best Korea!

So true.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2w3dzs1.jpg)(http://www.hellokpop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/snsd-genie1.jpeg)(http://i41.tinypic.com/kexlcp.jpg)

Quote from: Taeyoung;529079
hmmmm....
Ok, I'm in.
I'll take the rest 23 Tsangan kit sets. :-)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
23x Keyset

Country: South Korea

I've just pm'ed.

Where were you and your buddies during my group buy? :P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Marclgw on Tue, 28 February 2012, 07:15:49
Any new price if we hit another number of sets?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 07:21:48
Quote from: Taeyoung;529174
Okay, I'll ask my friends for more orders of base kits. :-)


Let your friends know about http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27583-IC-Miami-pink-on-teal-87-set too!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Tue, 28 February 2012, 08:09:41
Well, guess I'll PM again and for sure add Tsangan! now its cheap to think about the future ;D

edit:

Opps sorry Rag, GH accidently sent 2 pms on me!, didn't mean to clog up your already full PM box.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 08:43:37
150 price break for the base set is likely going to be about $42, so another 3 bucks cheaper. We are at 114 right now. Gogogo glhf gg. I sent Melissa a PM asking about it.

Wow @ the order of 23 Tsangan kits, wasn't expecting that. We still need more ISOs though, and some more base sets would be nice. I'll update the OP when I can, I have a paper due and an exam today.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Tue, 28 February 2012, 08:47:50
Jepp, another 3 ISOs would be fine, I'm thinking about getting 2 full sets at this price ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 28 February 2012, 10:03:34
Quote from: Ragnorock;529298
150 price break for the base set is likely going to be about $42, so another 3 bucks cheaper. We are at 114 right now. Gogogo glhf gg. I sent Melissa a PM asking about it.

Wow @ the order of 23 Tsangan kits, wasn't expecting that. We still need more ISOs though, and some more base sets would be nice. I'll update the OP when I can, I have a paper due and an exam today.

Good Luck in your exams!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 10:06:50
Tsangan kits promote S.Korea participation!

This would look good with red alert beside it won't it? Hmmmmmm...

Hashbaz you need to include winkeyless sets :P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 28 February 2012, 10:11:37
I want this. If I get my keys (which seems to have gotten bunged up in the mail) and they look good (from SP, never seen them first hand) I'll go in for a set. Hopefully they get here today or tomorrow in time. :/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:00:58
Well since I now can see that these SP keycaps that I got today do not match the profile or height of my Filco caps, I'm gonna have to order a whole set so I can match up! :D

Here goes:

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: Canada
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:04:29
Ok, updated my order to 2 full sets ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:13:38
Quote from: Nighted;529503
Well since I now can see that these SP keycaps that I got today do not match the profile or height of my Filco caps, I'm gonna have to order a whole set so I can match up! :D

Here goes:

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: Canada
So you got your Nyancat/Triforce keys then? Good to hear, that earlier post had me worried.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Tennobanzai on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:22:59
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: US
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:29:55
Maybe I'll get another set, too, but I'm already ordering 2 + 2ISO +2x104, how much can I order until I have to pay shipping twice?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:48:02
I'll get back to you on that this evening, I need to run another test where I actually count out the number of keys from X sets that fit. Though I think 4 base sets is starting to push it... and that isn't counting the bags and the air in them SP is likely to send them with. It might be as much as 4 104 sets, but we'll see. The spacebar and modifier keys etc I have to count out X number of 1x keys since I'm using that grab bag of 1000 keys I got from SP a while ago.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:48:52
Quote from: Zehkul;529528
Maybe I'll get another set, too, but I'm already ordering 2 + 2ISO +2x104, how much can I order until I have to pay shipping twice?

Well, since you have everything except the tsangan kit, you should order a couple sets of tsangan add-on sets.  They would be great add-ons if you ever decide to sell one of them.  They will get you a higher resell value.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Tue, 28 February 2012, 12:57:48
I think I'm in for at least the 87+1 set and possibly the other two as well.

Can you have updated order numbers tonight?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: prava on Tue, 28 February 2012, 13:26:35
Quote from: tsangan;527293
Its off centre stem, you know that right


And thus, not compatible with Filco, Leopold and pretty much every modern keyboard, right?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Soulpyre on Tue, 28 February 2012, 13:32:18
order updated
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 13:38:38
Quote from: prava;529580
And thus, not compatible with Filco, Leopold and pretty much every modern keyboard, right?

Correct, the stepped caps is off-centre stem, ment for all the keyboards with off centre switches such as Cherry boards, Phantom, DOX, etc etc

Of course you could mod it to make it work :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Tue, 28 February 2012, 15:07:50
Quote from: litster;529550
Well, since you have everything except the tsangan kit, you should order a couple sets of tsangan add-on sets.  They would be great add-ons if you ever decide to sell one of them.  They will get you a higher resell value.


For a second I thought you are 7bit and this is round 4.

Quote from: Ragnorock;529548
I'll get back to you on that this evening, I need to run another test where I actually count out the number of keys from X sets that fit. Though I think 4 base sets is starting to push it... and that isn't counting the bags and the air in them SP is likely to send them with. It might be as much as 4 104 sets, but we'll see. The spacebar and modifier keys etc I have to count out X number of 1x keys since I'm using that grab bag of 1000 keys I got from SP a while ago.


Thanks!
If 3x104 works... that would be tempting.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 28 February 2012, 16:53:05
Quote from: Ragnorock;529518
So you got your Nyancat/Triforce keys then? Good to hear, that earlier post had me worried.


It was weird, I was waiting for my caps from Tsangan because he notified me they had been mailed. I had no clue you sent out the Triforce as I got no PM. Today I got both of them! :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 17:14:41
Ragnorok
2x Keysets

Tsangan
2x Keysets

Country: South Korea

If you can stuff 3 sets into a single package, I'll get 3 sets each.. :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 28 February 2012, 17:48:07
Quote from: soulfree914;529767
Ragnorok
2x Keysets

Tsangan
2x Keysets

Country: South Korea

If you can stuff 3 sets into a single package, I'll get 3 sets each.. :-)

:thumb:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 17:59:16
I hoped I get a set named after me one day <3

Anyway, PMd you Rag so you can add my order to tennobanzai's order so we can share shipping
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:02:29
Quote from: demik;529819
I hoped I get a set named after me one day <3

Anyway, PMd you Rag so you can add my order to tennobanzai's order so we can share shipping

Red Alert!! Handle it :p
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:09:34
I can't be affiliated with anything red or else tsangan gets mad lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:09:42
Quote from: Nighted;529731
It was weird, I was waiting for my caps from Tsangan because he notified me they had been mailed. I had no clue you sent out the Triforce as I got no PM. Today I got both of them! :)
Yeah I just update the thread title and post in the thread when I ship them, sorry if you didn't see it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:14:14
Quote from: demik;529833
I can't be affiliated with anything red or else tsangan gets mad lol

Is he... your judge?

Quote
It's just... you should be punished
I'm going to chop off your arm, so are you ready?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:24:51
Rag's next full set gb is gonna be similiar to red alert isnt it?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:31:31
Quote from: thegunner100;529861
Rag's next full set gb is gonna be similiar to red alert isnt it?

I know that has been thrown around some but wasn't sure he was really doing it. I remember him saying he preferred to do novelty cap GB's then complete sets.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:43:06
I'm waiting a few months before I do another full set to give everyone's wallets a break, particularly if it does end up being Red Alert. That's because I would want to do it in the same PBT the Portal/Nyancaps are... making them compatible as a complete set would be something of value to me. Those are more expensive, it would be about the same price as the black on blue set that /KL did a while ago... I would like to get lots of buyers for that as well, and since the interest level is so high I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem, but still its not like everyone is going to be super jacked about buying another $50-80 set of keys in a month. They're also less profitable like I said earlier, and rent is expensive.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:50:16
Quote from: Ragnorock;529901
I'm waiting a few months before I do another full set to give everyone's wallets a break, particularly if it does end up being Red Alert. That's because I would want to do it in the same PBT the Portal/Nyancaps are... making them compatible as a complete set would be something of value to me. Those are more expensive, it would be about the same price as the black on blue set that /KL did a while ago... I would like to get lots of buyers for that as well, and since the interest level is so high I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem, but still its not like everyone is going to be super jacked about buying another $50-80 set of keys in a month. They're also less profitable like I said earlier, and rent is expensive.

PBT huh, sounds pricey. Better start saving my pennies.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:52:03
if it's as big as this buy, it shouldn't be TOO bad.

i think 30 sets was 90 something for tkl.

the add ons might hurt the pocket tho.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:54:43
Yeah I like the way I've done add ons here, so expect me to do the same for the future.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:55:52
works best for everybody IMO.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AJCarrington on Tue, 28 February 2012, 19:03:08
Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Tsangan
1x Keyset

Country: US

Appreciate all the efforts to make this happen.

AJC
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Tue, 28 February 2012, 21:01:44
Might as well get a Tsangan kit now since they are so cheap. Pmed to update order.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 21:21:41
Quote from: Ragnorock;529901
I'm waiting a few months before I do another full set to give everyone's wallets a break, particularly if it does end up being Red Alert. That's because I would want to do it in the same PBT the Portal/Nyancaps are... making them compatible as a complete set would be something of value to me. Those are more expensive, it would be about the same price as the black on blue set that /KL did a while ago... I would like to get lots of buyers for that as well, and since the interest level is so high I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem, but still its not like everyone is going to be super jacked about buying another $50-80 set of keys in a month. They're also less profitable like I said earlier, and rent is expensive.


Yeah, my wallet is definately gonna need a break after getting this, the cream cheese/green, and the miami sets. :smow:

Btw, will the ragnarok set have the crosses next to the stem so that o-rings will work properly?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 21:45:01
Lol yeah man, I mean there are some pretty rich people on here but most of US can't afford to spend $100+ a month on keyboards/keycaps.

As to your question, I don't think so. Do you have a picture to show me what you're talking about? My PBT keys from SP have a cross underneath but the doubleshots I got from the grab bag just have the center stem and no tabs that would prevent an O ring from sliding all the way up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 21:57:23
Yes, basically like the crosses that are on the SP PBT keys like the nyancat rainbow up/downs. Is it an option for SP to put them on their doubleshot keys?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]42122[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]42123[/ATTACH]
Pic for reference.

Edit: added pic and it seems like the triforce 1x keys have them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:16:02
Yeah they will hopefully have them but no promises. There isn't any position for me to make a request like that, their production techniques I leave alone because making it too specific is really painful for them, and I'm big on doing right by my suppliers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:17:54
Quote from: Ragnorock;530201
Yeah they will hopefully have them but no promises. There isn't any position for me to make a request like that, their production techniques I leave alone because making it too specific is really painful for them, and I'm big on doing right by my suppliers.

I like your attitude. Too much *****ing at SP doesn't do us any good.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 28 February 2012, 23:17:08
Quote from: thegunner100;530190
Yes, basically like the crosses that are on the SP PBT keys like the nyancat rainbow up/downs. Is it an option for SP to put them on their doubleshot keys?

Why not use grommets as spacers...or maybe just grommets?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biolaser on Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:36:17
At the last minute, I am in for:

Ragnarok
2x keyset

Tsangan
3x keyset

104
1x keyset

ISO
4x keyset

Country: US

This should put ISO right at the 10 sets mark!
PM going out soon.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:39:22
What a hero :thumb:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:53:59
Quote from: tsangan;530510
What a hero :thumb:


[video=youtube;OBwS66EBUcY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwS66EBUcY[/video]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:57:22
Quote from: litster;530520
[video=youtube;OBwS66EBUcY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwS66EBUcY[/video]

Stop posting songs I like. You are not iTunes. You are Litster.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 29 February 2012, 02:05:56
Quote from: RColinTaylor;530527
Stop posting songs I like. You are not iTunes. You are Litster.

Love the lyrics in the speech bubble.  Made me laugh!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Wed, 29 February 2012, 02:20:51
Quote from: Ragnorock;529834
Yeah I just update the thread title and post in the thread when I ship them, sorry if you didn't see it.


You should at least drop a message at the end saying the OP was updated. That way people who monitor threads solely via subscriptions (like me) will still get notified that the thread has new content, otherwise edits don't get pushed out. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 29 February 2012, 02:26:15
Quote from: litster;530534
Love the lyrics in the speech bubble.  Made me laugh!

Oh for sure; Someone had to have been insanely proud of myself when they finished that masterpiece.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: duncan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 03:29:30
Added 2x 104s to my order

Was holding off wondering about shipping issues but am hoping all these will all fit in one box (fingers crossed)
2x Ragnarok
2x Tsangan
2x 104

In the unlikely case anyone cares why, it's to make them more attractive for resale if things come to that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 29 February 2012, 08:02:10
Hey Rag, did 3 sets fit into a priority box? Off memory you said a while back that it did, but I might just be making things up!

About my order, I'll be changing it to:
2x Rag

I'm adding 1 rag and dropping the 104 kit. I was hoping it would reach 50.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 29 February 2012, 08:08:58
Quote from: biolaser;530505
This should put ISO right at the 10 sets mark!
PM going out soon.


<3

I feel like I have to order a third one now, too. Does 3x Rag 3x 104 and 3x ISO fit into one box? I need to know!

Quote from: mickd;530669
I'm adding 1 rag and dropping the 104 kit. I was hoping it would reach 50.


It still could. It's been a while since Rag updated the first post.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 29 February 2012, 08:16:04
Quote from: Zehkul;530673
It still could. It's been a while since Rag updated the first post.

I'll see what happens tomorrow :) It's 1:15am Thursday here in Australia. Not quite sure when Wednesday ends for Rag.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jophess on Wed, 29 February 2012, 09:17:03
Updated my order to:
Ragnarok
1x keyset

Tsangan
1x keyset

104
1x keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: popol on Wed, 29 February 2012, 10:03:05
orders have not been updated since a couple of days I think. Tsangan have got beyond 50 from what I've read, right?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: nokcha on Wed, 29 February 2012, 10:11:59
Ragnarok
1x Keyset - 1

104
1x Keyset - 1


Country: United States
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 11:03:08
Sorry I haven't gotten to updating it guys, I have another midterm, quiiz, and a presentaion in japanese today so I wasn't able to get it done last night.  Obviously were over 50 for phantom and might hit 15 for iso but I don't think 104 is close enough- its at like 38 and I haven't subtracted orders that dropped. You've got a couple hours till I get home and close it off. $65 is still a damn good deal for full sets though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zwi on Wed, 29 February 2012, 11:15:02
What the hell... add 1xTsangan to my order. I have no use for it now but who knows in the future
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: zere on Wed, 29 February 2012, 13:43:05
Ah, whatever :)

Ragnarok
1x Keyset

Country: Germany
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Wed, 29 February 2012, 13:48:27
Updating my order (Adding 1 tsangan kit)

Total will be

Ragnarok
2x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Tsangan
1x keyset
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: ryuhyoko on Wed, 29 February 2012, 13:55:20
Ragnarok
1 x keyset

USA
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 14:33:27
Okay, orders closed. Sending invoices out now. If you have changes you would like to make, you can change them up until your invoice is paid, but to be fair to others prices will not change. For example if someone was to suddenly want to add another 8 104 sets to their order sometime tonight, I would have to resend all the invoices, so I'm not going to bother with that. We did very well gentlemen, far beyond my wildest expectations. We aren't very close at all to 150, otherwise I'd leave it open a bit longer, but the whole point of this GB was speed, so I want to get these paid and the order in by Friday if possible. So pay ASAP please. I'm still trying to work out if I can order some extra keys, like order up to 150 base and 50 104 and then offer those for sale, but even with the discounts that is a big investment and a lot of merchandise to unload. I may stick to the plan and just order like 5 extra or something. Dunno.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 14:40:14
Quote from: Ragnorock;531101
Okay, orders closed. Sending invoices out now. If you have changes you would like to make, you can change them up until your invoice is paid, but to be fair to others prices will not change. For example if someone was to suddenly want to add another 8 104 sets to their order sometime tonight, I would have to resend all the invoices, so I'm not going to bother with that. We did very well gentlemen, far beyond my wildest expectations. We aren't very close at all to 150, otherwise I'd leave it open a bit longer, but the whole point of this GB was speed, so I want to get these paid and the order in by Friday if possible. So pay ASAP please. I'm still trying to work out if I can order some extra keys, like order up to 150 base and 50 104 and then offer those for sale, but even with the discounts that is a big investment and a lot of merchandise to unload. I may stick to the plan and just order like 5 extra or something. Dunno.
In other good news after this is sent off to Melissa, cream cheese & green is FINALLY going to start!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 February 2012, 14:55:32
Quote from: tsangan;531111
In other good news after this is sent off to Melissa, cream cheese & green is FINALLY going to start!

Can't wait!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:12:10
Ragnarock so we should expect an invoice from you in our paypal, which will be added the shipping cost also right?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:15:40
Yes. The invoice will be the only time you have to pay. Shipping costs/paypal fees will be included. The invoice feature gives me a really nice way to detail out orders and collect payments efficiently.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: ryuhyoko on Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:16:13
WHOOo thank goodness I didn't wait till I got home to put my order in!!:whoo:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:21:57
Quote from: Ragnorock;531137
Yes. The invoice will be the only time you have to pay. Shipping costs/paypal fees will be included. The invoice feature gives me a really nice way to detail out orders and collect payments efficiently.

Nicely done buddy, appreciate all your hard work, thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:28:57
woo! my new QF board is aching for these keycaps!

Thanks Rag for the GB!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Wed, 29 February 2012, 18:07:48
So close on the 104s reaching 50. Darn.

Great GB though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 18:11:23
Lets do this! Take my money!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Wed, 29 February 2012, 18:17:52
I'd be surprised if anyone doesn't have a set of these in 2-3 weeks :P.

So cheap... so efficient... so excited!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 29 February 2012, 20:38:38
Quote from: tsangan;531111
In other good news after this is sent off to Melissa, cream cheese & green is FINALLY going to start!
zzzooommggg !!!1111111
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:22:15
Invoice paid.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:28:41
Have all the invoices been sent out yet?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gridlock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:34:51
Can you mark mine as a gift when you ship it.

Thanks
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:38:23
Quote from: thegunner100;531433
Have all the invoices been sent out yet?

I don't think so. Didn't get mine either.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:40:10
Invoice paid!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:41:35
paid
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:45:00
paid
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:50:06
Hmmm...  Didn't get my invoice yet either.  Hope I didn't screw something up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:52:49
I wouldn't be too worried yet. I was near the front of the order list and I imagine he's following that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gridlock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 21:59:30
PAID! I'm more excited to get these than to see my gf... but don't tell her that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:00:03
Lol guys, I have a lot of invoices to send out. Still not done.

Edit: Also anyone with over 3 base sets (about 300 keys since spacebars and stuff count as 1 key but fit take up the space of several) gets a medium flat rate box. Those are $12.50. Sorry for not updating that till now. I just hadn't had the time to count out 300 keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:16:13
Invoice paid!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AJCarrington on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:20:34
Invoice paid!  Thanks again!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Soulpyre on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:22:22
Paid
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:24:35
Ah...  Got invoice and paid it!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: MrPhil on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:24:42
Paid! Thanks
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:24:58
So I forgot to include in the invoice the fee for the legend in those who said they would contribute to it... so if these members want to just gift me the $3 that would be appreciated.

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Oh and if you guys don't you suck, but I don't care enough to hound you for it. I've ended up paying all the legend/shipping fees in all my previous group buys anyways lol.

There may also be a sorting fee that I thought was included I haven't confirmed yet, but I'm just going to cover that if it happens.

Still not done invoices btw, only halfway. So if you haven't gotten yours yet that's probably why. I'll post when I finish.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:27:30
paid
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:27:32
Darn I thought this was closing on the 29th?

If you're just sending out invoices could I still get in?

1x Ragnarok
1x 104

USA, flat rate is fine
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:29:37
You give us the due date that's in half hour?
Invoice date   2/29/2012
Payment terms   Due on receipt
Due date   2/29/2012

Anyway, money sent.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:32:16
Invoice paid, cheers bloke.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:36:06
Lol guys, it just means its due whenever you get it. Its not like there is a late fee or anything though if you don't pay till tomorrow or something. Just please get it to me by Friday so I can get everything out then. I need at least the money required to put in the order by then, so about 90% of the orders paid.
Title: $$$ sent for legend fee
Post by: KylJoy on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:36:08
Quote from: Ragnorock;531505
So I forgot to include in the invoice the fee for the legend in those who said they would contribute to it... so if these members want to just gift me the $3 that would be appreciated.


$$$ sent.  Thanks for doing it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:41:01
I thought the invoice would be void if it was past the due date
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 29 February 2012, 22:54:41
no; in fact every paypal invoice i've ever gotten has a due date of "on receipt [of invoice]"
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:05:15
mind sending me your email to pay legend fee?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:06:17
Quote from: demik;531541
mind sending me your email to pay legend fee?

+1
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:08:48
T.T just copy it from your invoice.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:11:16
XXXXXXXXX, you have sent $3.00 USD to XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dreamingftw on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:15:03
Just paid it! Hope they make em quick cause I excited for em!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:15:46
Quote from: Ragnorock;531549
T.T just copy it from your invoice.

not getting an invoice since i merged orders with tenno
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:17:34
pay up people! let's get the cream cheese going!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:18:50
Quote from: demik;531557
not getting an invoice since i merged orders with tenno
ಠ_ಠ

Fine PM incoming.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:19:16
Quote from: Ragnorock;531563
ಠ_ಠ

Fine PM incoming.
meee tooooooo
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:26:35
Quote from: Ragnorock;531505
So I forgot to include in the invoice the fee for the legend in those who said they would contribute to it... so if these members want to just gift me the $3 that would be appreciated.

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Oh and if you guys don't you suck, but I don't care enough to hound you for it. I've ended up paying all the legend/shipping fees in all my previous group buys anyways lol.

There may also be a sorting fee that I thought was included I haven't confirmed yet, but I'm just going to cover that if it happens.

Still not done invoices btw, only halfway. So if you haven't gotten yours yet that's probably why. I'll post when I finish.


Paid my invoice and gifted you $3 separately.

Guys, if you haven't watched the Windows 8 consumer preview announcement, check it out here: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windows/videogallery2.aspx

The Windows key is going to be used a lot more in Windows 8.  And yes, all the shortcut keys are preserved and there are new ones.  You can still fly around Windows 8 with just your keyboard.  Think about it, it has to be for Accessibility (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mike Rowe on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:30:49
Paid! Thanks Ragnorock
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:31:38
Paid.  Please do more GBs!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:40:26
You got some chedda in your inbox. :) BTW, very nicely run GB. Why don't you have a seat and stay awhile, we can use someone like you around here to run more group buys. ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:47:15
Paid
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 29 February 2012, 23:56:59
Thanks! Paid!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:11:28
Quote from: gimpster;531593
You got some chedda in your inbox. :) BTW, very nicely run GB. Why don't you have a seat and stay awhile, we can use someone like you around here to run more group buys. ;)
Thanks man, and to everyone else for such a great experience running this. Not only am I having a bunch of fun doing it, but I'm learning plenty about how running a business really works. Even if it is a pseudo-business run out of my apartment while in school. I never try and **** myself out for reputation points as I don't think they really matter now that I have so many, but when everyone gets their keys it is nice to see the feedback I get in the comments.

All invoices have been sent. Pending payment by Friday and the order going in on time, we should be getting these before the end of the month. Boy do we have a big order for SP this time lol. Its almost triple the size of my previous group buys.


Dave out
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:16:46
Payment sent, thanks again Dave
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:17:44
Paid

Great work here, i will join ur next gbs!!! gief red alert
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:26:14
Paid!  Counting the days ....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:47:08
paid dawG
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biolaser on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:55:06
Invoice paid. Great gb indeed! And fast too. Will be looking forward to joining your gbs in the future!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 01 March 2012, 02:17:51
Paid.

And now I just realized I spent $130 on key-caps for some keyboards. wat. Damn geekhack...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: duncan on Thu, 01 March 2012, 02:21:11
Quote from: fstop;531283
So cheap... so efficient... so excited!

+1

Paid.

Excellent work Rag!
A very good model for others to consider for similar GBs.

And thanks to everyone else involved. A great bit of collective constructive behaviour producing a great result for us all.
Group hug!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Thu, 01 March 2012, 03:00:54
Invoice paid. Thank you, I can't wait!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Thu, 01 March 2012, 03:04:43
pmt sent, thanks again rag!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 01 March 2012, 03:15:30
Paid my invoice.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Thu, 01 March 2012, 04:10:57
Paid. 68€ is a pretty nice price.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Thu, 01 March 2012, 06:09:56
Paid

Sent from a phone...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Oxblood on Thu, 01 March 2012, 08:02:52
Paid.

I'm glad someone got this done!!!

Can anyone source Black on Red "GAMER" kit so I can swap out my "esdf" keys, also looking for some additional keys to use on my Ducky 108. (Black/Red or Red/Black)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Thu, 01 March 2012, 08:07:17
Invoice payed.

And now I can't believe I just spent almost the same amount as a new keyboard on a new keycap set!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 01 March 2012, 08:09:03
Invoice paid :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Thu, 01 March 2012, 08:09:57
Quote from: Ahlitah;531903
And now I can't believe I just spent almost the same amount as a new keyboard on a new keycap set!!!

But with new key caps it basically becomes a new keyboard - but more awesome!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bionicroach on Thu, 01 March 2012, 09:43:38
Payment sent!  Thanks!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Tennobanzai on Thu, 01 March 2012, 09:50:09
Sent. Thanks!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: telepete on Thu, 01 March 2012, 10:16:24
Ju5t p41d my 1nv0ic3. Th4nk5 R4g5!

Sent from my TF101 using Tapatalk
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: shawn o on Thu, 01 March 2012, 10:48:27
Got invoice and just checked in again before paying. Haven't looked here in a bit. Is the "standard" Windows logo key now gone and replaced by Windows 8 logo? If so I may want to cancel. :-( Every single version of windows has had its own "logo" but its always consistently the same classic one used on keyboards. Why change it now?

I downloaded and installed Windows 8 Tuesday and its HORRIBLE for desktops. More of a tablet OS and not good for computers that use mice. This version is going to go the way of Millenium Editions....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biochem on Thu, 01 March 2012, 10:52:26
Paid and gifted.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 01 March 2012, 11:12:51
Quote from: shawn o;532069
Got invoice and just checked in again before paying. Haven't looked here in a bit. Is the "standard" Windows logo key now gone and replaced by Windows 8 logo? If so I may want to cancel. :-( Every single version of windows has had its own "logo" but its always consistently the same classic one used on keyboards. Why change it now?

I downloaded and installed Windows 8 Tuesday and its HORRIBLE for desktops. More of a tablet OS and not good for computers that use mice. This version is going to go the way of Millenium Editions....
This set will come with the windows 8 logo, but since many people don't like it I will be starting up a group buy for Biohazard modifier and escape keys to go with it. If you like the keyset aside from that key, you should just get it and wait a bit for that GB to be set up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 01 March 2012, 11:21:06
Ill be in for that GB.
For folks that are tied to old Window logo look at the Windows 1.0 logo http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/Windows
It's and the new one are similar.

But then again I prefer Gentoo generally:)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kikkobots on Thu, 01 March 2012, 12:19:10
Quote from: Ragnorock;532089
This set will come with the windows 8 logo, but since many people don't like it I will be starting up a group buy for Biohazard modifier and escape keys to go with it. If you like the keyset aside from that key, you should just get it and wait a bit for that GB to be set up.

you should setup some group buy with black on red modifiers too!

or just a red alert one
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: HWI on Thu, 01 March 2012, 12:53:53
Payment sent.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Thu, 01 March 2012, 13:17:52
Woot, that where 160€ just for keycaps... ehm, no... for really great keycaps ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rourouni815 on Thu, 01 March 2012, 13:28:41
Payment sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Thu, 01 March 2012, 14:18:33
paaaid
and now im poor
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:34:33
That's what I was thinking too...another ****ing "ME". :smow:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Weapon on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:35:26
Paid~
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: placebo guy on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:36:31
Quote from: projectD;532264
paaaid
and now im poor


Wait, didn't you recently sell two Filco TKL MXBlues for a nice return. =P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:42:04
Quote from: kikkobots;532137
you should setup some group buy with black on red modifiers too!


That would be sick..


Sent from a phone...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 01 March 2012, 15:45:15
Quote from: kikkobots;532137
you should setup some group buy with black on red modifiers too!

or just a red alert one

That would look ugly. Mods should be a darker color, not the other way around.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Thu, 01 March 2012, 16:37:04
Fiat debt credits transferred. [ATTACH=CONFIG]42358[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kikkobots on Thu, 01 March 2012, 17:48:36
Quote from: demik;532372
That would look ugly. Mods should be a darker color, not the other way around.


think outside the box!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 01 March 2012, 17:49:36
im safe in my box.

especially when it's something that's right infront of me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: f4d3 on Thu, 01 March 2012, 19:09:53
If anyone doesn't want their set, I will gladly take it. Of course I will pay.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: useless_people on Thu, 01 March 2012, 19:11:15
Quote from: f4d3;532599
If anyone doesn't want their set, I will gladly take it. Of course I will pay.

Haha I'm buying a set and I might sell it if it doesn't fit with my keyboard xD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: f4d3 on Thu, 01 March 2012, 19:13:41
Quote from: useless_people;532601
Haha I'm buying a set and I might sell it if it doesn't fit with my keyboard xD

It will fit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: useless_people on Thu, 01 March 2012, 19:16:26
Quote from: f4d3;532606
It will fit.

Well I mean color wise.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: royalsego on Thu, 01 March 2012, 20:35:20
payment submitted

thanks
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Thu, 01 March 2012, 21:17:37
Quote from: f4d3;532599
If anyone doesn't want their set, I will gladly take it. Of course I will pay.

One MILLION dollars! [ATTACH=CONFIG]42384[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Thu, 01 March 2012, 21:20:18
Payment sent!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Phil21 on Fri, 02 March 2012, 02:57:27
Payment sent, thanks again!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 02 March 2012, 09:50:31
Alright guys, I've got most of the invoices paid, about 22 of 100 left. Please pay as soon as you can. I should have enough to pay for the keys today though, so goal achieved. In case those affected didn't see it, as it is now buried a few pages back, I didn't bother including the $3 for the Windows 8 fee in the invoice, so if those who were willing to pay for it could just gift that to me it would be appreciated.

Here's the complete list, though half of them have paid. Thanks guys.

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  |  width="65" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 65pt" | litster
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  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | demik
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  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | tsangan
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  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | snowboarder3
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  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | kisakuku
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  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | WRXChris
  |-  style="height: 15.0pt"
  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | RColintaylor
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  |  style="height: 15.0pt" | pjpettis
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Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Fri, 02 March 2012, 11:59:51
Payment sent. Thank you..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 02 March 2012, 13:38:36
TIL SP has stopped working on Fridays. Lol. Yeah I don't know when this happened, or if it was always that way, but they aren't there to accept the moneys and put the order in. I could probably get Melissa to send me an invoice from home, but it wouldn't get us the keys any faster, so it'll just have to wait until Monday. Sorry guys, I'm so proud of everyone for paying $7k in ~2 days lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Fri, 02 March 2012, 14:04:00
once the order is registered, how long will it take before you receive all the stuff?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 02 March 2012, 14:17:15
Personally, I don't know why you think its appropriate to do that when most qc issues sp takes care of to the best of their ability and very fast to boot. Any problems I have they are very helppful with and it has been a pleasure working with them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 02 March 2012, 14:36:26
Quote from: ripster;533283
Hope it wasn't my GLWIC (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24707-Why-Is-The-Ripster-So-Darn-Pissed-At-Signature-Plastic-Key-Group-Buys&p=465725&viewfull=1#post465725) thread.  I noticed the other day it is the second hit on Google for "Signature Plastics".


Were you logged into google when you saw this? I'm guessing from your history, it suggested that as a hit for SP for you. I don't see that thread on the first 5 pages.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 02 March 2012, 14:48:13
Quote from: snowboarder3;533302
Were you logged into google when you saw this? I'm guessing from your history, it suggested that as a hit for SP for you. I don't see that thread on the first 5 pages.

Sounds kinda like this

http://dontbubble.us/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 02 March 2012, 15:11:32
Quote from: ripster;533291
Well, I never did get my fuzzy lip Awesome and Reversed LOD keys replaced.

But that was 7bit's fault, right?  It was a distribution problem, not a production problem.  From what I understand the plan was to fix the R3 mistakes during R4.

Melissa replaced the bad shifts from my group buy and had them to me in around a week.  She was even willing to redo the (barely) off-center diamond legend simply because I didn't like it, even though it wasn't a mold I had commissioned.  Put that in your GLWIC thread.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 02 March 2012, 15:54:06
Quote from: snowboarder3;533302
Were you logged into google when you saw this? I'm guessing from your history, it suggested that as a hit for SP for you. I don't see that thread on the first 5 pages.

Sounds like its just his usual BS.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zwi on Fri, 02 March 2012, 17:42:49
paid, sorry for the wait.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: leotnnz on Fri, 02 March 2012, 20:29:34
paid:)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sat, 03 March 2012, 03:09:51
Quote from: lightsout714;533361
Sounds like its just his usual BS.

Guy knows a ton about keyboards, but jesus christ this guy is a douche sometimes.

hope I'm not over stepping here, just an observation.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: inlikeflynn on Sat, 03 March 2012, 10:20:08
Paid as well. sorry for the delay, been out sick :(
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Sat, 03 March 2012, 17:13:32
Late payment just went in. 3 term papers in the last week -_- sorry!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 04 March 2012, 00:13:53
Here are the people who haven't paid, though some have made arrangements already:

Jil_Jil32
Jpm_804
Wilsongunawan
Von Steve
M_Eganos
Marcglw
Useless_People
Famine
Swede
Gilgam
Bavman
Zere


Feel free to break out the knee breaking squad if the payments aren't made lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: RColinTaylor on Sun, 04 March 2012, 00:59:47
For the record I too haven't paid; will be doing so on the 7th with some drug money.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 04 March 2012, 01:00:25
I didn't pay my $3 yet!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Sun, 04 March 2012, 06:56:36
Quote from: f4d3;532599
If anyone doesn't want their set, I will gladly take it. Of course I will pay.

Just watch the classifieds... SOP around here means there will be plenty available at a 700% markup. :-P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Sun, 04 March 2012, 07:10:56
700% markup on resale? I'll take another 20 sets! ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Sun, 04 March 2012, 09:29:05
What's the additional ISO key now, by the way? I'd vote for a diamond, but actually I'm fine with everything.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bavman on Sun, 04 March 2012, 11:22:40
paid
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 04 March 2012, 13:04:13
Lookin' to get late in's on 1x Red on Black 87key.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: faMine on Sun, 04 March 2012, 16:26:25
Paid!

Thank you sir!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 04 March 2012, 17:06:17
Quote from: faMine;535140
Paid!

Thank you sir!

About time famine :whip:

;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Rinzler on Mon, 05 March 2012, 01:13:36
Paid my invoice. Super pumped. Also Rag, we need to SC2 it up one of these days. I'll try and catch you online.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 05 March 2012, 01:20:08
Sounds good man, cheers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 05 March 2012, 16:30:22
Read the bold if you don't care about the details.

Okay, so I've had an interesting morning so far. When I got my expected email from Melissa back today, I was in for a bit of a surprise. Unbeknownst to me, the sorting fee isn't some "$35 and we'll sort em," sort of deal, its $.05 per keycap. I was just going to cover it and wasn't even worried about it, so lol. That put the sorting fee at ~$800 for this group buy, which as you could imagine, wasn't going to work in the slightest. Since I obviously can't afford to just shell out an extra $810 or spend weeks sorting the almost 15,000 keycaps myself, while risking errors and losses since I am in no way set up to do that, I would have to refund and resend all the invoices, with an average increase in price of $5 per set ordered. I didn't even have to come on here and ask what everyone would have thought of that, I knew nobody would be too happy about it. So, in the sprit of keeping this group buy going and me not refunding the money entirely and canceling/starting over, I was able to negotiate the fee down to $0.02, putting the fees at $298.38. Combine that with $45 for shipping, and we have $343.38 to raise.

I'm going to cover it for now so this group buy goes forward, but bear in mind that that consumes pretty much all of the funds I was going to get from everyone after 100 orders in order for me to buy extras. For those that don't remember, the original price for 100-150 was $43, but with the majority's consent I changed it to $45 in order for me to be able to raise funds for this. We hit 132 sets in the end, so I collected a good $264 toward my purchase of extras. Add the extra $100 or so from the handling charge etc etc and it pretty much breaks even. That said, I now have to fund my own purchase of extras, and blah blah blah if I want to make some money, so while I am going to do that (12 sets, half TKL and half Full Size to sell @ $65 and $85 respectively) it is going to be quite a burden on me to fund that.
Anyways, here's the deal. Just like the legend fee and other late stage fees in my previous group buys, I'm going to ask whoever ordered and feels like contributing to their portion of the fees, send a gifted payment to my account, which all of you should have by now. Yes you can PM me for it if you are too lazy to go find it. The contribution per person is pretty simple to figure out, but here it is if you failed 4th grade math.



$.02 per keycap:

Ragnorock set: 88 keys, $1.76
Tsangan set: 11 keys, $0.22
104 set: 17 keys, $.34
ISO set: 3 keys, $.06

So however many of each set you got, is what your portion of the fee is. If you recognize the risk that I am taking paying for everyone's contribution up front, then please pay for your share. Usually when I make a post asking for contribution toward unexpected fees, I maybe get 20% of it covered, usually in large part by a few guys who contribute more than their fair share. Obviously 20% of $343 isn't really all that helpful, as that only covers about 1 set's worth of materials. So please, pay your share, don't just look at it like its a couple of bucks I can afford to pay for. I know it doesn't seem like much, but with everyone not contributing that extra couple of bucks, it basically removes any and all chance of me making this worth my time. It reverts back to the original situation where I can't make any money off of this gb because it is a much larger investment to do so. If I don't buy the $600 worth of extras and just eat the loss if nobody contributes, we're looking at me paying my own money just to get everyone their keys. Just wanted to let everyone know that.

Again, this group buy was about speed and getting everyone cheap keys, so I went with this route instead of bothering with a refund and reissue of invoices. That way, the order goes in today, and not in a couple of weeks. I will probably be reposting it at the end of the thread a couple of times for maximum visibility.

Dave out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 05 March 2012, 16:36:22
I'll send in a few bucks tonight. Gotta go load some more cash on the card.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biochem on Mon, 05 March 2012, 16:40:41
Ouch! That was a nightmarish surprise. If I donate $5.00, can I be in the first group to get their key caps shipped to them?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 05 March 2012, 16:41:21
I would send in a few extra $, but I can't send gift payments at the moment.

If I get some stuff sold soon that I am planning to list on ebay or here, I will send in a gift payment with extra for my portion.

Oh, and if anyone wants to pay for my portion for me. I will ship you off a Blu-ray from the pile I was planning on selling for FREE!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Mon, 05 March 2012, 16:58:31
Sent a couple of fivers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Tennobanzai on Mon, 05 March 2012, 17:03:55
Sent.

2 Ragnarok + 1 Tsangan = $3.74
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: HWI on Mon, 05 March 2012, 17:06:41
Money sent in for sorting fee. You may want to put this at the top of the first post.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 05 March 2012, 17:09:30
Sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 05 March 2012, 17:26:05
Yeah this morning didn't exactly start as planned. I was mad man, I mean what kind of person expects that I'm going to be willing to sort 15 thousand keys into hundreds of sets. That's enough keys to floor my living room. I see why most of their customers wouldn't need to pay for that, since they're usually just replacing a few keys, but distributing full sets is just... no.

Thanks for all the generous contributions guys, its much appreciated. I'm working on getting a PM out, but the message recipient list is capped at 5... and I have 100 lol. Does not want send 20 PMs.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: ryuhyoko on Mon, 05 March 2012, 17:37:20
Heyy sent a gift for the sorting fee
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: inlikeflynn on Mon, 05 March 2012, 18:32:24
sorting fee gift sent over :juggle:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Mon, 05 March 2012, 18:55:01
Sent my portion as a gift!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Mon, 05 March 2012, 18:56:40
Quote from: Ragnorock;536095
That said, I now have to fund my own purchase of extras, and blah blah blah if I want to make some money, so while I am going to do that (12 sets, half TKL and half Full Size to sell @ $65 and $85 respectively) it is going to be quite a burden on me to fund that.
I'll be very interested in one of your spare 104 sets, can I put my name down for one or will you be organising those later?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Mon, 05 March 2012, 19:04:19
Gift sent, thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Mon, 05 March 2012, 19:04:56
Sent.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 05 March 2012, 19:07:47
Gift sent. Rag you have spoke of doing a red alert group buy. Sorry for bringing it up again but I was curious do you plan on doing it after this GB or later down the road?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: royalsego on Mon, 05 March 2012, 19:21:25
sorting fee sent. appreciate your hard work.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 05 March 2012, 19:33:13
Quote from: All The Fire;536229
I'll be very interested in one of your spare 104 sets, can I put my name down for one or will you be organising those later?
I may be pre selling them, I'll put you on the list.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Mon, 05 March 2012, 19:36:45
Cool, thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:02:47
250% Fiat debt credits transferred. [ATTACH=CONFIG]42823[/ATTACH]

Please add to my feedback score in kind.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:08:59
Quote from: Ragnorock;536258
I may be pre selling them, I'll put you on the list.


Hey, i'm still not on the original List,, so just wondering, you're not kicking me out right? I would be very sadddd   (T ~T)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:11:06
Quote from: Ragnorock;536095
....
 The contribution per person is pretty simple to figure out, but here it is if you failed 4th grade math.


Dave out.

I must have failed 4th grade math.... $100 incoming because I had a crappy day.  Yeah it makes no sense:)  But thanks again.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:18:22
0.0

Srs? Dude... dat generosity. I'll think of something to toss in with your order lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:19:50
Naw that's ok.  Thanks for organizing. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:28:27
sent an extra 5 bucks to cover my sorting fee and some other deadbeat's
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:33:53
I'll say it again!

FREE BLU-RAY shipped to anyone who covers my $3 sorting fee! PM me and i'll give you a list to choose from!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:40:03
Quote from: Ahlitah;536337
I'll say it again!

FREE BLU-RAY shipped to anyone who covers my $3 sorting fee! PM me and i'll give you a list to choose from!

Is it hi-def porn?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:44:49
Quote from: Nighted;536343
Is it hi-def porn?

depends, a few discs are anime with HD fan service :whistle:

a few movies might even have keyboard porn! I know one of the movies the guy is obsessive with his comp for.. well stuff...I won't spoil it!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 05 March 2012, 20:51:24
Quote from: Ahlitah;536349
depends, a few discs are anime with HD fan service :whistle:

Hmmm...I was hoping for something with midgets.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:05:24
ahlitah, consider your sorting fee paid for. i don't want/need any of these "blue rays" you speak of though. do with them what you wish.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:07:22
Quote from: mkawa;536367
ahlitah, consider your sorting fee paid for. i don't want/need any of these "blue rays" you speak of though. do with them what you wish.
i saw he makes them into ninja stars.

hi-def ninja stars!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:10:56
Quote from: mkawa;536367
ahlitah, consider your sorting fee paid for. i don't want/need any of these "blue rays" you speak of though. do with them what you wish.

heh, there is nothing really bad in there. just regular high def movies, and some anime!

I do thank you for saying its payed for though!

I can offer you a GH DS keycap from the other GB when they come in, if you want it. since I did order some extras.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:13:49
presumably your sorting fee was only like 2$? i don't particularly need anything in return if that's the case.. (and if it's not, i've only paid like 2-3$ of your sorting fee, heh).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:17:26
my sorting fee would of been like $3 I think.

I would pay it myself, but as i've said I have no way to gift at the moment.

I would like to re-pay of sorts though. so i'm offering free stuff! which actually costs me more, then if I were to pay the sort! heh

but if you don't want anything, thats fine too. not going to force you to take something you don't want.

thanks again.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:19:13
mkawa is just a good guy :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:19:55
yah, no worries dude.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:27:01
Opps, missed the post about the sorting fees. Will send my $2 now!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:29:21
Yeah, it's getting buried quick.  Need to update the OP.  I never understood why vBulletin doesn't have a "sticky post" feature for a thread.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:30:10
because everybody will sticky their thread
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:34:49
No, I don't mean sticky a thread in a forum.  I mean sticky a post to a thread.  That way, if there is something important to announce, it will be a the top of every page.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:36:18
yah that would be nice. i think vbulletin does have some mode where you can make the OP display above every page, but you may have to turn that template on somehow.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: placebo guy on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:39:52
Contribution sent for $20.  I'll take dibs on first shipment if the Sconie doesn't want it. :boxing:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:42:52
Quote from: mkawa;536414
yah that would be nice. i think vbulletin does have some mode where you can make the OP display above every page, but you may have to turn that template on somehow.

Yeah well the OP's tend to be a mile long, so that probably would just get annoying.  Updating the thread topic is the approach used here, it seems.  Works well enough.  Maybe Rag should change it to [SOS].  xD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:47:23
lol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:48:06
I am starting,,, Starting,,, really beginning,, to think that the people on geek hack are more crazy than the kids on 4chan.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:49:51
i think the distinction here is that the kids on 4chan are just anti-social kids. we're actually diagnostically crazy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:51:03
Quote from: placebo guy;536419
Contribution sent for $20.  I'll take dibs on first shipment if the Sconie doesn't want it. :boxing:

rag has been good on shipping every order at the same time
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:57:39
Quote from: mkawa;536434
i think the distinction here is that the kids on 4chan are just anti-social kids. we're actually diagnostically crazy.

I get a very distinct "you have reached the end of the Internet" feeling when I find myself looking at something on 4chan.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 March 2012, 22:01:28
Quote from: mkawa;536434
i think the distinction here is that the kids on 4chan are just anti-social kids. we're actually diagnostically crazy.

Surprisingly, there doesn't seem to be much fanboism, or at least it's very tame.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: KylJoy on Mon, 05 March 2012, 22:18:03
$$$ gifted for sorting.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 05 March 2012, 22:40:01
Yeah I always ship everything all at once, and as fast as I possibly can after I get the keys. I have been an admin on previous forums in the past, so I know enough about vBulletin that I could think of several cool things to do with the site, but none of them seem to really be needed. This place really functions pretty smooth. I wouldn't object to some small moderation tools to keep threads clean, but meh.

Edit: By the way about the fees post, I'm just going to take the time and send the 20 PMs. I asked iMav to take the 5 mins and raise the limit for an hour, but he must be busy fixing the blackhole that is back.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bionicroach on Mon, 05 March 2012, 23:42:29
Sorting fee sent!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Rinzler on Tue, 06 March 2012, 00:26:19
Sent the sorting fee.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 06 March 2012, 00:34:54
Sorting fee sent!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 06 March 2012, 00:42:23
Paid $5 to help cover the sorting. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ovoxo on Tue, 06 March 2012, 00:50:48
Sorting fee sent!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mike Rowe on Tue, 06 March 2012, 03:05:26
$20 gift sent

Again, thanks for doing this
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 07:37:50
is this fee for everybody that placed an order here or just some people, if it is for everybody how much I own the OP?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 06 March 2012, 07:42:08
Quote from: bazemk1979;536775
is this fee for everybody that placed an order here or just some people, if it is for everybody how much I own the OP?

It's for everyone. Details here.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27473-Ragnarok-Red-on-Black-87-104-Keyset-Order-Thread-ORDERS-CLOSED-INVOICES-SENT&p=536095&viewfull=1#post536095
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 06 March 2012, 07:46:19
Quote from: Ragnorock;536095
...Sorting fee $0.05 .... $810 ... can't do myself ... $45 for shipping ...


LOL!!!

I can also do group buys with dumping prices and in the end ask for a 'sorting fee'!

I just wondered why Melissa told me yesterday they'd get packed the ususal way and prices are without shipping....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 10:31:45
Hey, just a question for those who have experienced the full [groupbuy] process before, what is the ETA from "THIS" point forward:hungry:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 06 March 2012, 10:43:55
Quote from: tp4tissue;536853
Hey, just a question for those who have experienced the full [groupbuy] process before, what is the ETA from "THIS" point forward:hungry:


If you don't have any other key caps to eat, you will die before these arrive!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 11:00:47
Quote from: 7bit;536858
If you don't have any other key caps to eat, you will die before these arrive!

:rofl:

right, but seriously, are we talking a month? or two weeks?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 11:10:39
Quote from: tp4tissue;536879
:rofl:

right, but seriously, are we talking a month? or two weeks?
I have heard 3-5 weeks put out there. 5 sounds more likely.(I'm talking production only)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 11:13:02
Quote from: lightsout714;536889
I have heard 3-5 weeks put out there. 5 sounds more likely.(I'm talking production only)

So, you're saying, 5 weeks for them to complete production/sorting,,, then 1 more week for them to get to Ragno,,, then another week for it to get to us, right?

Well, at least by then, i could file it under birthday expense

so 6+ weeks... LOL... i think i'm gonna need my + 10 patience hat...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 06 March 2012, 11:42:24
Quote from: 7bit;536778
LOL!!!

I can also do group buys with dumping prices and in the end ask for a 'sorting fee'!

I just wondered why Melissa told me yesterday they'd get packed the ususal way and prices are without shipping....
... Its not my fault Melissa assumed that I would be willing to sort out 15 thousand keys and at no point informed me that there was a significant sorting fee, nor did anyone on here with that knowledge point it out. I think its pretty rational for me to have the expectation that if sorting wasn't included, a person in her position would at least inform me of it, if not for my own benefit, for extra revenue. Hell if I didn't ask her if sorting was included when I asked her for the invoice, I would have gotten a much worse surprise when they showed up all unsorted... resulting in me spending a week or more of time I don't have sorting out keys. As you may recall, this is my first full keyset group buy, and before with the other group buys their bulk method wasn't simply preferred, but necessary because the orders were so varied.

Also there is a difference between asking for a couple of dollars to cover a sorting fee that I paid up front after negotiating it to a workable level, and raising prices 67% while orders are being collected. Prices are supposed to go DOWN as a group buy nears closure, not up.

I'm waiting on a specific ETA from Melissa before updating the OP btw, and I'll post it at the end of the thread when I know as usual. Generally its 3-5 weeks, then 2 days or so for them to get to me, followed by a few days after receiving them for me to pack them and get them out. Then between 2 days and 3 weeks (international) for transit time.

Edit: Melissa said 5 weeks. Will let me know if she ships sooner.

Edit 2: I see Round 4 got put on hold again. I guess Ripster was right.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 12:15:13
Quote from: Ragnorock;536910
... Its not my fault Melissa assumed that I would be willing to sort out 15 thousand keys and at no point informed me that there was a significant sorting fee, nor did anyone on here with that knowledge point it out. I think its pretty rational for me to have the expectation that if sorting wasn't included, a person in her position would at least inform me of it, if not for my own benefit, for extra revenue. Hell if I didn't ask her if sorting was included when I asked her for the invoice, I would have gotten a much worse surprise when they showed up all unsorted... resulting in me spending a week or more of time I don't have sorting out keys. As you may recall, this is my first full keyset group buy, and before with the other group buys their bulk method wasn't simply preferred, but necessary because the orders were so varied.

Also there is a difference between asking for a couple of dollars to cover a sorting fee that I paid up front after negotiating it to a workable level, and raising prices 67% while orders are being collected. Prices are supposed to go DOWN as a group buy nears closure, not up.

I'm waiting on a specific ETA from Melissa before updating the OP btw, and I'll post it at the end of the thread when I know as usual. Generally its 3-5 weeks, then 2 days or so for them to get to me, followed by a few days after receiving them for me to pack them and get them out. Then between 2 days and 3 weeks (international) for transit time.

Edit: Melissa said 5 weeks. Will let me know if she ships sooner.



Thanks so much for the update.... <( ^ _^)>-
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 06 March 2012, 12:43:45
I hope SP would actually do a good job sorting them correctly.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 06 March 2012, 12:49:12
Lol yeah this is me counting on them doing a good job. They are pros though, so I have confidence in them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:05:52
Sorting fee sent!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:11:06
PM sent to everyone in the group buy, thanks again to those that have paid.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jophess on Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:18:25
Sent you $5.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:28:20
I'll send you $5 if you'll remind me of your PayPal email.
I may be going broke, but I appreciate your efforts here and don't want to stick you. But, what happened to your $1000 profit? Is that still happening?  If not, will another GB from SP be worth the trouble?

edit: sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Soulpyre on Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:30:08
Sent $5
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:58:53
I sent payment for the sort fee but I still got a PM about it! WTF, don't you have the time to go through and figure out who paid and who didn't already? Geez man, it's like you have some sort of life going on outside of organizing this group buy or something... ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rainb1ood on Tue, 06 March 2012, 14:00:23
sent my share
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 14:38:38
sent my share, if you still turn out being in minus after all payments settled, post here dude and we will gift you some more to help, at least I'm willing to do it again, its at least I can do for your hustling with this GB.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Tue, 06 March 2012, 14:44:54
unexpected sorting fee paid, thanks again for your efforts rag!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Tue, 06 March 2012, 14:47:10
Quote from: WRXChris;537086
unexpected sorting fee paid, thanks again for your efforts rag!


This

Sent from a phone...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Oxblood on Tue, 06 March 2012, 16:41:13
I can spare $5. Since the price of the keys was reduced for volume!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Tue, 06 March 2012, 16:42:32
Quote from: ripster;537092
Deep.  I wonder if we could prioritize PC traffic over Phone traffic.  Like AT&T Unlimited Plan throttling.

That.

Sent from a computer...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:24:52
So, guys, I just read that complaints page by whitefiredragon, and ripster, about Signature plastics.. LOL pretty harsh.. have they improved at all?

And if we do get a very mis-molded key,, is there a warrenty replacement thing?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:29:37
Ripster is pretty ridiculous with his complaining. There was an error with the recent grb buy and they fixed it very fast. I wouldn't be too worried.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:44:39
Quote from: lightsout714;537220
Ripster is pretty ridiculous with his complaining. There was an error with the recent grb buy and they fixed it very fast. I wouldn't be too worried.

I'm not worried. I only wish to be mentally prepared for disappointment, which that thread made seem imminent.

A month of keycap longing is alot for a nerd to bear; My desire to continue living is all too fragile.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:49:34
Quote from: tp4tissue;537212
So, guys, I just read that complaints page by whitefiredragon, and ripster, about Signature plastics.. LOL pretty harsh.. have they improved at all?


The double shots I got from them are pretty nice. Much nicer than printed or lasered keys.

They could take more care removing the caps from the runners (sprue) though, as bits of the gate are left or a gouge mark from pulling and twisting the molded piece instead of snipping for a clean separation. This is a minor gripe considering the amount of keys that must be removed and you don't really notice it when they are on the keyboard.

Plus the shape and profile isn't exactly identical to cherry mx caps, but a moot point if you are using a full set.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:50:00
Quote from: tp4tissue;537230
I'm not worried. I only wish to be mentally prepared for disappointment, which that thread made seem imminent.

A month of keycap longing is alot for a nerd to bear; My desire to continue living is all too fragile.

Visit the classifieds and fill that void.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:52:09
Quote from: tp4tissue;537230
I'm not worried. I only wish to be mentally prepared for disappointment, which that thread made seem imminent.

A month of keycap longing is alot for a nerd to bear; My desire to continue living is all too fragile.

You just gotta forget about them. They will show up when they do.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:53:48
Quote from: demik;537235
Visit the classifieds and fill that void.

wow I'm impressed, You picked up on my "void",,

To be perfectly transparent, I've been filling this void with material goods my entire life....


Unless, everyone here's doing what I'm doing,, LOL,, in which case I could stop reading all my self help books,, and just talk to you guys...

hahahahhahaahahaha
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:54:01
Considering the price, the only complaint would be the thickness of the caps:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]42889[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]42890[/ATTACH]

Round3 / 'vintage' Cherry
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:55:05
Quote from: lightsout714;537238
You just gotta forget about them. They will show up when they do.

Someone should hack a military spy satelite so we can monitor the progress of our keycaps... This is geek "HACK" afterall.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:58:44
Quote from: dewaere;537240
Considering the price, the only complaint would be the thickness of the caps:

(Attachment) 42889[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 42890[/ATTACH]

Round3 / 'vintage' Cherry

If assuming these keycaps are structurally sound,, I am for lighter thinner keycaps,, since return travel speed is the only true affector double tap, for when I type my Double alphabets
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:05:17
Quote from: tp4tissue;537243
If assuming these keycaps are structurally sound,, I am for lighter thinner keycaps,, since return travel speed is the only true affector double tap, for when I type my Double alphabets

Did you even get a set? It seems like you asked to get it on this after the buy was closed and invoices sent out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:13:29
Quote from: metafour;537247
Did you even get a set? It seems like you asked to get it on this after the buy was closed and invoices sent out.

Yea, lucked out, got in on it, I asked THE DAY before he put in the order,

You also come off as a person whose only joy comes from of the derogation and misfortune of others..  shame on u.

and here I thought I was depressing,, LOLOL
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:29:11
Quote from: tp4tissue;537253
You also come off as a person whose only joy comes from of the derogation and misfortune of others..  shame on u.

and here I thought I was depressing,, LOLOL

It's known as schadenfreude and it's a very rewarding hobby. [ATTACH=CONFIG]42905[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:33:30
tp4tissue I think you may have him mistaken but oh well.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:36:23
Quote from: tp4tissue;537253
You also come off as a person whose only joy comes from of the derogation and misfortune of others..  shame on u.

You should take a closer look around before you make such statements.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:39:43
Quote from: Nighted;537264
It's known as schadenfreude and it's a very rewarding hobby. (Attachment) 42905[/ATTACH]

Well, if your contrast group is starving africans,, then yea, I suppose you'd be the happiest man alive,,,

But, now that I think about it more,  schadenfreude, may not be logically possible.

It only seems to occur in under-achieving / low-achieving individuals. Plauged by the frustration at the lack of personal success, they resort to rationalizations (the schadenfreude) to resolve that inner emotional dissonance.

It would make no sense for a rich successful man to behave this way..

But, then what the person derives from other's misfortune is not pleasure, but a delusion to numb their own constant failures....



THIS IS all speculation,,, metafour mayy be a good guy, but so far, doubtful...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:59:22
I don't think there was any harm in metafour's msg, so just calm down imo. :confused:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Tue, 06 March 2012, 19:07:47
Quote from: tp4tissue;537241
Someone should hack a military spy satelite so we can monitor the progress of our keycaps... This is geek "HACK" afterall.

The hack just stands for "hey Chinese GEEKs, you won't sell us your plastic so come HACK our BBS!". :-P

I have only seen metafour being a gentleman around here.  Likewise for most everyone else too!  :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 06 March 2012, 19:12:18
I let TP in because he asked nicely later that day after someone else dropped. However his behavior is making me wonder whether that was a good idea or not. Metafour was asking a legitimate question, as TP's name isn't in the OP. There is no indication of his personality and he's actually a stand up guy as far as I can tell. You have no place to make such judgements and even if you did, this thread is not the place. Please refrain from any future insults.

Also some people like thicker keys because they sound different. Apparently.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:07:38
Quote from: Ragnorock;537304
I let TP in because he asked nicely later that day after someone else dropped. However his behavior is making me wonder whether that was a good idea or not. Metafour was asking a legitimate question, as TP's name isn't in the OP. There is no indication of his personality and he's actually a stand up guy as far as I can tell. You have no place to make such judgements and even if you did, this thread is not the place. Please refrain from any future insults.

Also some people like thicker keys because they sound different. Apparently.


I can't dig my self outta this, but I sensed great animosity and negativity in Metafour's comment, if you wanna drop my order, feel free. Look at it from my perspective, I just got off all happy about getting caps, and he comes in and kill-joys me; a pretty insensitive move, and to what end. What purpose was it to him to find out whether I order the caps?:mmph:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:08:59
he asked you a question. i saw nothing wrong with his comment.

a simple "yeah, i was able to sneak in at the last second" was all that was needed.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:10:33
Quote from: demik;537337
he asked you a question. i saw nothing wrong with his comment.

a simple "yeah, i was able to sneak in at the last second" was all that was needed.

I'm not arguing I could've handled it better,, but it really rubbed me the wrong way... as I've said, how you felt about the comment would be very different from how I felt about it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:13:59
This is how I felt,,

I'm at a car dealership

Guy comes up to me, says, "can you afford it son" with a awry smirk..

That's how interpreted his comment..

terrible imagination? perhaps.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:16:51
Dude let it go. Its not that serious.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:19:10
Quote from: lightsout714;537346
Dude let it go. Its not that serious.

right right, i did let it go, I'm just all depressed that my caps gonna get canceled.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:21:31
Yeah man, don't think we're so serious here, this is the internet afterall, nobody is looking for a fight... well except Biniaris.

I'm not going to pull you from the group buy or anything silly like that, just chill. I suspect you've had one too many bad experiences, but there's no need to go looking for one here.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:26:14
Quote from: Ragnorock;537355
Yeah man, don't think we're so serious here, this is the internet afterall, nobody is looking for a fight... well except ripster.

Fixed! ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:28:57
Quote from: metafour;537359
Fixed! ;)

Hey metafour, I do apologize for my quick assumptions... I'll get u a beer if ur ever in jersey. plz no h8 on jersey, I know the Situation makes us look bad.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:29:56
- .. -- .   - ---   - .- -.- .   -.-- . .-.   -- . -.. ... ! [ATTACH=CONFIG]42921[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:34:49
Quote from: Nighted;537365
- .. -- .   - ---   - .- -.- .   -.-- . .-.   -- . -.. ... ! (Attachment) 42921[/ATTACH]

Yea, I often think i may need some.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:35:01
Quote from: Nighted;537365
- .. -- .   - ---   - .- -.- .   -.-- . .-.   -- . -.. ... ! (Attachment) 42921[/ATTACH]

time to take yer meds!

@tp4tissue No worries. Water under the bridge.

Keycaps!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 06 March 2012, 22:04:48
Quote from: ripster;537092
Deep.  I wonder if we could prioritize PC traffic over Phone traffic.  Like AT&T Unlimited Plan throttling.
about 86% of your posts are misogynistic image macros that have nothing to do with the substance of the thread. i have no idea where you get off *****ing about post content.

OH NO I MISSPELLED SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY WORSE THAN WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME *****ING ABOUT THINGS NONSTOP
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Tue, 06 March 2012, 22:05:54
Just sent the sorting fees.
Sorry for the late payment because I've missed the recent post about the unexpected sorting fees.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zwi on Tue, 06 March 2012, 22:49:11
sent the sort fee.. With all these GB's ending I'm getting lost in what I still have to pay!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 06 March 2012, 23:18:10
Hey Dave, just sent you a little bit extra to cover the costs. Thanks again for organizing this GB
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 06 March 2012, 23:47:52
Returning to the question of SP quality control, Melissa reran the bad keys from my group buy and had them on my doorstep in just over a week.  I was very impressed.

Also, fun fact of the day since someone brought it up:  the hack in geekhack actually doesn't refer to clever programming or breaking into computer systems.  According to iMav it refers to writers.  A geek hack is a writer who is also a geek, i.e., someone who is probably interested in keyboards.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 06 March 2012, 23:49:25
Yeah I'm not going to knock SP's service or quality until I have reason to, and I don't ever expect that I will. Like even those slightly bowed backspace keys, she warned me that there may be some outside of their tolerance specs, and I said that was fine because I was going to order enough extras that it shouldn't pose an issue. It didn't, and I've only had 3 people need exchanges.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Phil21 on Wed, 07 March 2012, 01:01:33
sent sorting fees plus some extra to cover the deadbeats :)  Thanks again!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: duncan on Wed, 07 March 2012, 03:10:25
My share (plus a bit) of sorting fees sent in.
Thanks for the GB Ragnorock.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 07 March 2012, 03:34:07
Haha looks like you greatly underestimated this community originally Dave :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 04:57:33
Quote from: mkawa;537445
about 86% of your posts are misogynistic image macros that have nothing to do with the substance of the thread. i have no idea where you get off *****ing about post content.

OH NO I MISSPELLED SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY WORSE THAN WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME *****ING ABOUT THINGS NONSTOP


I find it ironic that one would complain about time wasting on a "keyboard-enthusiast" forum. LOL,, i mean it just seems like the internet was made for time-wasting and pr0n.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Wed, 07 March 2012, 10:33:34
rag, shot you $35 to cover my set + the inevitable deadbeats that will see all the rest of us sending $$ in

you were patient and did a good job on my 1st participated Group Buy, i have no problem joining any of your future group buys that i'd be interested in (not the biohazard one lol)

Let me know if you're still short in the end, i'll chip in a little more (if i can get some of my other stuff sold)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dreamingftw on Wed, 07 March 2012, 10:45:48
Sorting fees sent..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Wed, 07 March 2012, 11:13:58
Ragnorock must be reeling in the green! [ATTACH=CONFIG]42964[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 07 March 2012, 11:17:58
Apart from it pretty much having been spent already, sure.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 07 March 2012, 11:28:22
Quote from: projectD;537822
rag, shot you $35 to cover my set + the inevitable deadbeats that will see all the rest of us sending $$ in

you were patient and did a good job on my 1st participated Group Buy, i have no problem joining any of your future group buys that i'd be interested in (not the biohazard one lol)

Let me know if you're still short in the end, i'll chip in a little more (if i can get some of my other stuff sold)


There was no need to talk **** about others. Congrats, you sent more than you had to.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Wed, 07 March 2012, 11:47:51
Is it a full moon or something?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 07 March 2012, 12:12:19
sorting fee sent
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:42:32
Yeah thanks to some very generous donations, I've gotten back what I put in up front with only 65 of the people contributing. If you haven't yet, don't feel pressured into spending any more than your fair contribution, I never expected such generosity and am not sure I can even accept some of them they're so above and beyond what they should have been. I had already prepared myself mentally to just write off a couple hundred as costs of doing business so actually meeting and now exceeding how much I had spent is completely beyond me. I've been mulling over how I can pay these members back ever since, and that includes giving them the recognition among the community they deserve, but I won't be naming them unless they are okay with it. Some people prefer to remain anonymous. Astounding job guys, this community never ceases to amaze.

Dave out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:52:24
Quote from: Ragnorock;537993
I've been mulling over how I can pay these members back ever since, and that includes giving them the recognition among the community they deserve, but I won't be naming them unless they are okay with it. Some people prefer to remain anonymous. Astounding job guys, this community never ceases to amaze.

Maybe if getting those Cherry legends getting made gets going, the extra money could go to that. I think many would be on board with that.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:53:24
What Cherry legends? Everyone seems to like their WYSE font.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:54:25
Quote from: Ragnorock;538004
What Cherry legends? Everyone seems to like their WYSE font.

Both fonts are nice :thumb:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:54:35
Please invest any profits that you don't feel right keeping into the next group buy (custom legends, etc).  That way to can give back to those that gave back.  ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:55:17
if you end up with any extra sorting fee donations, you can put them in a virtual slush fund to pay for the cherry legend fees that people seem to want for future GBs

ho ho ho, first step, awesome keys. next: TOTAL DOMINATION OF THE WORLD OF CUSTOM KEYBOARDS. WATCH OUT KOREANS GEEKHACK IS COMING
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 07 March 2012, 13:55:28
Yeah for sure.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Wed, 07 March 2012, 14:09:34
Quote from: demik;537872
There was no need to talk **** about others. Congrats, you sent more than you had to.

the PM specifically said there would be those who usually don't pay to help him cover the fees.
maybe me bringing it up will guilt those who weren't gonna pay into paying.

congrats for taking offense when others brought up deadbeats here:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27473-Ragnarok-Red-on-Black-87-104-Keyset-Order-Thread-MONEY-SENT-ETA-APRIL-10TH&p=536330&viewfull=1#post536330
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27473-Ragnarok-Red-on-Black-87-104-Keyset-Order-Thread-MONEY-SENT-ETA-APRIL-10TH&p=537534&viewfull=1#post537534

Exactly what "**** talk" did I say that was different from those 2?  Or from the original message?

Quote from: Ragnorock;537993
Yeah thanks to some very generous donations, I've gotten back what I put in up front with only 65 of the people contributing.

Lets see, out of 131 orders for the base set, only 65 people gave him the sorting fee, basically half the group buy participants.
Lets be generous and say the remaining 50% that 30% were just a little late in giving the $$, thats still 20% (26 people) who weren't going to pay.

anyway, maybe you think im being a little harsh, i feel dave does a great job with these group buys and I'm more than happy to voice my opinion on the matter =)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 07 March 2012, 14:13:25
Quote from: mkawa;538008
if you end up with any extra sorting fee donations, you can put them in a virtual slush fund to pay for the cherry legend fees that people seem to want for future GBs

ho ho ho, first step, awesome keys. next: TOTAL DOMINATION OF THE WORLD OF CUSTOM KEYBOARDS. WATCH OUT KOREANS GEEKHACK IS COMING

After I give geekhack their cut from the extra keycaps I bought, I will be putting in the rest towards the custom legends.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 07 March 2012, 14:14:51
Please guys, no drama. Demik I don't think that was really **** talking, many people have aid the same thing. Like I just said, I'm floored that this time 66% of the people stepped up, compared to the usual 20%. Everyone did a fantastic job and I have nothing but praise for those that contributed.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 07 March 2012, 14:18:04
Btw, my fee was paid by Tenno since he's handling our order :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 07 March 2012, 14:28:16
Quote from: Zwi;537479
sent the sort fee.. With all these GB's ending I'm getting lost in what I still have to pay!


Lol so true. Anyway, paid my share! Now, on to the next GB awaiting my money.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:19:39
Quote from: Ragnorock;538041
Please guys, no drama. Demik I don't think that was really **** talking, many people have aid the same thing. Like I just said, I'm floored that this time 66% of the people stepped up, compared to the usual 20%. Everyone did a fantastic job and I have nothing but praise for those that contributed.

I wouldn't mind if you used some extra money to get fat on icecream.

Also, I am GOING CRAZY,, ''more" crazy,, waiting for the keycapss..

Is there any way we can expedite the process,  like threaten this "melissa",, or SP???
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:21:26
Quote from: tp4tissue;538127
I wouldn't mind if you used some extra money to get fat on icecream.

Also, I am GOING CRAZY,, ''more" crazy,, waiting for the keycapss..

Is there any way we can expedite the process,  like threaten this "melissa",, or SP???


Yes... threaten them so that they will never make keys for us ever again. :fish:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:23:03
Quote from: thegunner100;538132
Yes... threaten them so that they will never make keys for us ever again. :fish:

I can't imagine their customer base being all that huge.. We're definately on the better clients list ,, and pay way higher premiums.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:23:34
Quote from: tp4tissue;538127
Also, I am GOING CRAZY,, ''more" crazy,, waiting for the keycapss..

Buy the time you get them I'm putting my money on "dribble and drool".

Quote from: tp4tissue;538127
Is there any way we can expedite the process,  like threaten this "melissa",, or SP???

You're a trip dude...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:25:42
SP makes DS for koreans and their other customers buy in bulk sets, without making specific demands all the time on specific keys. Aside from that, they're the only company that can reliably make DS keys atm.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:28:02
Quote from: Nighted;538137
Buy the time you get them I'm putting my money on "dribble and drool".



You're a trip dude...

Funny thing is, I actually don't do any drugs. It's all the time I spend alone living a life without consequences.

Eitherway, a threat, wouldn't have to be so forward and negative... We could present it lightly,,
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:28:57
Quote from: thegunner100;538138
SP makes DS for koreans and their other customers buy in bulk sets, without making specific demands all the time on specific keys. Aside from that, they're the only company that can reliably make DS keys atm.

Really?? There's no one in China making DS?/  or is it just we don't have any such contact?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:30:24
Quote from: tp4tissue;538144
Really?? There's no one in China making DS?/  or is it just we don't have any such contact?

Have you seen any Chinese board w/ doubleshots?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:30:45
China is all about the PBT dye-subs ^^
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:30:59
Quote from: alaricljs;538146
Have you seen any Chinese board w/ doubleshots?

So who made the original cherry doubleshots?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:32:18
Quote from: tp4tissue;538148
So who made the original cherry doubleshots?

CHERRY!  (which is/was a German company and no longer makes keycaps from what I hear)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:32:49
Quote from: thegunner100;538147
China is all about the PBT dye-subs ^^

If I'm getting anything that's not DS, i'd get blanks, because it's only a matter of time before dyesub changes color
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:33:17
Quote from: alaricljs;538149
CHERRY!  (which is/was a German company and no longer makes keycaps from what I hear)

and these guys made it all in USA? wow
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 07 March 2012, 15:59:04
Quote from: tp4tissue;538127
I wouldn't mind if you used some extra money to get fat on icecream.

Also, I am GOING CRAZY,, ''more" crazy,, waiting for the keycapss..

Is there any way we can expedite the process,  like threaten this "melissa",, or SP???

Relax dude. You've been all over the place in this thread.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Tennobanzai on Wed, 07 March 2012, 16:26:33
Quote from: tp4tissue;538127
I wouldn't mind if you used some extra money to get fat on icecream.

Also, I am GOING CRAZY,, ''more" crazy,, waiting for the keycapss..

Is there any way we can expedite the process,  like threaten this "melissa",, or SP???

hahahahaha
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Wed, 07 March 2012, 22:00:14
Quote from: tp4tissue;538135
I can't imagine their customer base being all that huge.. We're definately on the better clients list ,, and pay way higher premiums.


The revenues are reportedly about 1.8/2.0+ million
http://www.business-lists.com/search/detail.asp?id=0AC92CA28A1343EBD13851968F0398F5

More company info from 2006-ish
http://www.solutionsinplastic.com/images/SIG_NWBM_Article.pdf

I was thinking of doing an humorous IC on buying them:)  [not that I have the money].
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 07 March 2012, 23:08:32
Rag, would be great if you would donate any extra sorting fees you receive to our Adopt a Cherry Keycap Legend Fund.  Here is the link:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28324-Adopt-a-Cherry-keycap-Legend

Lots of interesting keys are still available for adoption, looking for a good home!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biolaser on Wed, 07 March 2012, 23:21:58
Just paid my portion of the sorting fees. /excited for these caps!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 07 March 2012, 23:36:57
Quote from: litster;538658
Rag, would be great if you would donate any extra sorting fees you receive to our Adopt a Cherry Keycap Legend Fund.  Here is the link:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28324-Adopt-a-Cherry-keycap-Legend

Lots of interesting keys are still available for adoption, looking for a good home!
I'd like to see these legends and how they compare to what we already have before doing that. Not that it isn't a worthwhile endeavor its just I don't know the difference because I haven't seen a cherry board in 10 years.

Currently I have just been planning on covering my future group buy legend fees with them. For example the Biohazard logo is $120 for both a mod and an Esc key, or $60 each due to the complexity of the legend. I was thinking I would just pay for those and drive the price down on that GB. Since many of the members of this group buy were interested in it, I figured that would be a worthwhile investment for the funds they have contributed.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Wed, 07 March 2012, 23:43:46
^ Red on black?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 07 March 2012, 23:45:57
OFC, matches the set perfectly. I was going to include them but the extra costs would have driven the price up and I felt they were better off in their own group buy, but they would have been in place of the windows keys and a spare Esc one.

Speaking of Biohazard, as soon as I get the last 5 invoices paid for, I'll get that started up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:06:29
speaking of modifiers, i have to find some terran ones to go with this keyboard lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:16:56
If any buyers didn't pay and/or you have an extra set (87, 87+tsangan, or 87+104) I would love in on this GB. I want my poker to have the red/black double shots rather than the engraved white PBT's that it currently has. Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:33:54
I will have extras for sale when they get here, but if you would like to pre order one I'm doing TKL for $65 and 104 for $85. Let me know if you want one and I'll add you to the list.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:39:56
rag: charge more. let's generate some cash for fun projects.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:47:32
Ragnorock, charge mkawa more. ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:49:04
XD Lol maybe the preorder price will be lower by $5 or something haha. Depends on how many I have by the time they get here.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Thu, 08 March 2012, 13:00:48
Quote from: Ragnorock;539226
I will have extras for sale when they get here, but if you would like to pre order one I'm doing TKL for $65 and 104 for $85. Let me know if you want one and I'll add you to the list.


Thanks. Any possibility of TKL + tsangan? I will pre-order either that (if available) or the standard TKL kit depending on costs.

Also is shipping included in these costs?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 08 March 2012, 13:16:07
No and no, sorry I didn't get any extra Tsangans. If Taeyong wanted to sell you one of his, he has 23 though lol. Since he is in Korea you'd need to arrange that prior to me sending it to him to save on costs. I would then just mail it to you for him.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Thu, 08 March 2012, 15:41:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;539272
No and no, sorry I didn't get any extra Tsangans. If Taeyong wanted to sell you one of his, he has 23 though lol. Since he is in Korea you'd need to arrange that prior to me sending it to him to save on costs. I would then just mail it to you for him.


Ok, I'll just go ahead and pre-order the standard 87 keyset (plus "Execute" key as well I assume). Just post up (or PM me) how much I will need to paypal you including shipping and fees (should be $73.95...or just call it $75 for good measure).

I do wish I didn't miss the cut off date though...$20 bucks more kind of hurts, but at least it is going to you and I probably would have added about $10 to my payment anyway.

Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 10 March 2012, 17:28:19
Still waiting on payment from the following members:

Von Steve
Marcglw
Useless_People (arrangement made)
M_Enanos
RColinTaylor (arrangement made to pay in person)

Come on guys, it was due 2 weeks ago.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 10 March 2012, 17:40:05
ok, dumb question, since I already paid-n-all,,,,, does this set come with space bar,,
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 10 March 2012, 17:42:39
Yes...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 10 March 2012, 17:51:29
Quote from: Ragnorock;541591
Yes...

phewwww.... I was worried that I'd have to go somewhere and steal one...:sing:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 11 March 2012, 00:33:52
What's the policy on unpaid orders? Basically, could I take over one of those orders if they don't pay?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 March 2012, 01:00:52
Quote from: All The Fire;542016
What's the policy on unpaid orders? Basically, could I take over one of those orders if they don't pay?


what's the point,, Ragno already said that he'll be selling extras. just wait till they get here.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 11 March 2012, 01:10:54
For a mark up. I was fine with paying it having completely missed the group buy, but since people aren't paying up, thought to see if there's a chance to get it for the order price.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 11 March 2012, 01:30:19
That hasn't ever happened, so I haven't decided a policy on that one yet. Being as how I'm already taking preorders for the leftovers though, I'd have to say they're probably going to be priced the same as the leftovers to be fair to those people. I have already paid the bill, so those that don't pay have waited a bit long to cancel their orders...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 11 March 2012, 01:49:47
Fair enough. Wasn't aware you're taking preorders for the leftovers yet, have all the 104 sets been claimed yet?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 11 March 2012, 01:55:00
No, send me a PM with your info described in the OP and I'll put you on the list.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 March 2012, 03:02:01
please charge a premium for all orders after close date. 1) there's clearly enough demand for it 2) you took the risk of bridging the manufacturing fee. the extra cost is an extremely justifiable risk premium. not charging this premium would set a bad precedent imo.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 11 March 2012, 03:03:32
Yeah that's the logic I've stuck with. Though the extra sorting fees have been paid for, I'm still short almost $700 if none of these orders get paid.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 11 March 2012, 03:07:04
You fronted $700 to place the order?  I have no doubt that you'll make that back, even if the original orderers bail, but still.  That plus trying to get Click Clacks for your sorting fee above-and-beyonders earns you the Good Guy Greg award for the month in my book.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 11 March 2012, 03:08:07
very imo also you should charge folks a late fee for missing the payment deadline. most likely they're deadbeats anyway, but in case they do end up contacting you and want their product, you still ended up having to bridge their payment, and that was not the original agreement.

eta: i haven't been following the last few pages, but if you're really trying to get cc's for the people who donated into the sorting fee reimbursement fund, i would also consider giving those ballers the option to convert that into equity in your venture or clickclack's venture. we need a (very small) business infrastructure at gh to get cool stuff done!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 11 March 2012, 05:42:53
I'm new to groub buys and I just want to make sure I don't screw up this PM.

My understanding is that if I want a full 104 set I put it as:
Quote
Ragnarok
1x keyset

104
1x keyset

"Personal details"


Yeah?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sun, 11 March 2012, 05:47:21
Quote from: All The Fire;542103
I'm new to groub buys and I just want to make sure I don't screw up this PM.

My understanding is that if I want a full 104 set I put it as:


Yeah?

Orders are closed. That would be correct though if orders were still open. Check out the cream cheese and green set coming up soon!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 11 March 2012, 05:56:13
Ragnorock has said he's taking orders for the spare sets he ordered, just last page. I have looked at the cream cheese one though, not really appealing to me. Thanks though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 11 March 2012, 09:46:07
Quote from: hashbaz;542060
You fronted $700 to place the order?  I have no doubt that you'll make that back, even if the original orderers bail, but still.  That plus trying to get Click Clacks for your sorting fee above-and-beyonders earns you the Good Guy Greg award for the month in my book.
Yeah in a way I did, though because I collected money for shipping that I haven't had to pay yet, it wasn't out of pocket. Thus why I allowed it in order to get things going faster. However if it comes time to ship these and they still haven't been paid for, then that money does come out of my checking account.

I did fail to get Click Clacks though, sadly. I was falling asleep at my desk from getting up early to finish an essay that morning and F5ing for 2 hours put me in a frustrated and tired mood so I went and took a nap expecting it would be down for another hour at least.

I've gotta figure out something though, Game Theory and Phil21 deserve some serious recognition, contributing $100 and $171 respectively.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Sun, 11 March 2012, 10:43:02
I spent most of my money on bikes, booze and broads....


....the rest I wasted.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 11 March 2012, 11:10:17
If anyone wants leftover sets, I started sending out invoices today. Limited to 6 Tenkeyless and 6 104, I'm not listing orders that haven't paid yet for grabs. These are just what I have purchased to sell.

2 104s have already been claimed pending payment. Gogogo. Lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 11 March 2012, 16:03:13
Paid mine, thanks again.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 March 2012, 14:29:37
//twiddle thumbs...

//insane yawning + backstretch.

Are we there yet?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Tue, 13 March 2012, 19:22:48
Quote from: Ragnorock;538701
Biohazard logo


RED on BLACK, right?   :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 13 March 2012, 19:28:21
...Yes.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Tue, 13 March 2012, 19:29:12
Quote from: Nighted;542228
I spent most of my money on bikes, booze and broads....
....the rest I wasted.

Bikes, booze, broads, and 'boards!  ;-)


One of these days, I should get all of the above together in one giant warehouse and take a picture to remind myself why I'm poor.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 13 March 2012, 20:12:10
Quote from: captain;545067
... why I'm poor.

Yeah, warehouses are expensive.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Tue, 13 March 2012, 20:13:58
I can safely say that I have spent enough on the 4-Bs to have bought at *least* one large warehouse!  :-o
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 March 2012, 20:59:14
Quote from: captain;545107
I can safely say that I have spent enough on the 4-Bs to have bought at *least* one large warehouse!  :-o

a warehouse that is in the middle of nowhere... at least people won't bother stealing from ya
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 March 2012, 21:00:28
Quote from: Ragnorock;545066
...Yes.

hey man, could you tell me what the windows 8 key logo looks like,, i googled images of windows 8, and it looks the same except the window is now straight, is that what we're getting?


I just don't see why that's so bad..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Tue, 13 March 2012, 21:15:01
(http://i.imgur.com/G5jYI.jpg)

without the TM.

who said it was bad?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 13 March 2012, 22:03:45
Quote from: snowboarder3;545181
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/G5jYI.jpg)


without the TM.

who said it was bad?
Wont matter to me since I'm getting the RGBY with black legends, window key will be replaced by the yellow one with black diamond.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 13 March 2012, 22:28:09
The Biohazard symbol was for those that wanted an OS agnostic and unique key that defines the set. Since that was overruled it gets to be as standard as almost everything else out there but still somewhat futuristic and unique. The biohazard group buy is coming once everyone pays their invoices. ಠ_ಠ
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Tue, 13 March 2012, 22:45:56
Is there a placeholder to which we can subscribe?  I can't possibly keep up with all the traffic!  ;-P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 13 March 2012, 22:51:36
No since I'm going to bypass the interest check for it since there was plenty generated in this thread. I will announce it in this thread though when it happens so if you pay attention to it you'll be fine.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: i3oilermaker on Tue, 13 March 2012, 22:53:41
I hope the GB will include a 1x option in addition to a modifier! :peep:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 13 March 2012, 23:30:43
It will.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:15:44
good guy rag

includes the cap you need
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:36:04
Were you planning to have any other keys in that group buy Rag? I'll definitely get some, but if there's more variety I'll feel better about shipping :P You know, instead of getting like 10 of a key I'm planning to use 2 of.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 14 March 2012, 01:41:40
Yeah I would never do a group buy for just one key, I'm going to do it with Portal round 2 and some other keys I'm keeping under wraps at the moment.

Just so we're clear though, Biohazard is not included with this set. It got voted off the island.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Wed, 14 March 2012, 03:57:28
Yeah, but it will be back with a vengeance and a plague!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 14 March 2012, 06:29:20
Quote from: Ragnorock;545451
Yeah I would never do a group buy for just one key, I'm going to do it with Portal round 2 and some other keys I'm keeping under wraps at the moment.

Just so we're clear though, Biohazard is not included with this set. It got voted off the island.

Sweet, saving on shipping costs FTW.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 14 March 2012, 21:29:26
Does anyone know how I can get ahold of Marcglw? I've been sending a lot of messages in every method I have and I haven't gotten a response in about a week. He's got a nearly $500 order and I'd like to see it show up in my account soon.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 14 March 2012, 21:45:38
try through tsangan. took me awhile to get a response from him also. i think it's a 12 hour difference
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 14 March 2012, 21:53:26
Emails show unread until you read them. >.>
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 14 March 2012, 21:55:37
huh o.O
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Wed, 14 March 2012, 22:16:30
Quote from: Ragnorock;546306
He's got a nearly $500 order

Balling :D

Sent from a phone...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 March 2012, 22:20:31
Quote from: boost;546347
Balling :D

Sent from a phone...

he's gonna resell right? who would ever need 20 sets keycaps..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Wed, 14 March 2012, 22:30:20
Quote from: tp4tissue;546349
he's gonna resell right? who would ever need 20 sets keycaps..

I think for some of them it's because they're in a different country and they have lots of friends that would like a set so they proxy for them all. So essentially it's a resell situation but I wouldn't anticipate them being resold here by him.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Wed, 14 March 2012, 22:31:18
Me!  I like to move around. ;-P

How do I delete this?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Wed, 14 March 2012, 22:33:37
Quote from: tp4tissue;546349
he's gonna resell right? who would ever need 20 sets keycaps..

Me!  I like to move around. ;-P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 15 March 2012, 01:43:12
he's probably ordering for singapore. tsangan is probably the way to go on getting hold of him since he'll probably be handling the poker group...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaiserreich on Thu, 15 March 2012, 05:22:39
Quote from: tp4tissue;546349
he's gonna resell right? who would ever need 20 sets keycaps..

He resells the keycaps from the novelty keycap group buy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Thu, 15 March 2012, 06:24:20
Yup he does. I can try to get hold of him if he still hasn't responded.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 20 March 2012, 19:16:37
[ATTACH=CONFIG]45129[/ATTACH]
This is Melissa's image representation of the size of the Windows 8 legend, you have tonight to tell me your thoughts, I didn't make it in time to reply to her today since I was in school. Do you want it bigger? Smaller? Not centered?

I think it's fine the way it is right now but its not really about me. Please lmk.

Also Marclgw sent me a pm this morning, sorting stuff out now hopefully. Useless people is the only other unpaid and he's got his paypal working and is waiting for the money to show up in his account. After those get paid, we're all set!

Dave out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:04:20
I like that logo. Any bigger and its going to look wrong.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:07:18
I think it looks fine the way it is.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:36:49
yeah, looks pretty go to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: balanar on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:43:11
Looks fine to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biochem on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:57:06
Looking good.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:59:03
i like it
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Tue, 20 March 2012, 21:23:40
Fine by me
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Tue, 20 March 2012, 22:38:41
Ship it
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: royalsego on Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:07:19
me gusta
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:11:30
Yep, looks fine.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:28:25
Roger Wilco.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Tue, 20 March 2012, 23:34:23
I see a problem with the key. It has a windows logo on it.

TEAM BIOHAZARD! ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Wed, 21 March 2012, 01:36:31
all good with that beauty of a winkey
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jil_jil32 on Wed, 21 March 2012, 01:57:47
Quote from: metafour;552079
I see a problem with the key. It has a windows logo on it.

TEAM BIOHAZARD! ;)

+11111
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Thu, 22 March 2012, 01:32:22
Quote from: metafour;552079
I see a problem with the key. It has a windows logo on it.

TEAM BIOHAZARD! ;)

Exactly. But otherwise, it looks close enough to a Saint John's Arms icon to work for me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 March 2012, 01:35:26
Quote from: metafour;552079
I see a problem with the key. It has a windows logo on it.

TEAM BIOHAZARD! ;)

Come at us bro!!!!! :p
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Thu, 22 March 2012, 01:42:04
I make bio hazard every day.  What about you?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 22 March 2012, 14:01:44
Quote from: litster;553260
I make bio hazard every day.  What about you?

botulism, and people stick it in their face.. oh no, the wrinklesss
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 22 March 2012, 20:45:52
OP updated with information on ordering leftovers, please check the yellow text at the top. Again I only have a few sets to go around, and only 2 tenkeyless sets remain. I have 5 104 sets left. Once the tenkeyless are gone one may be forced into buying the full set if they really want one, so get your order in now if you don't want to pay for keys you don't need. I'd like to see these sets go to people that will actually use all the keys, so hopefully that works out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: wilsongunawan on Thu, 22 March 2012, 22:17:30
hi there, my name still not in the OP. hehe
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 22 March 2012, 22:23:54
You're on my spreadsheet, that's all that matters. I stopped caring about updating it when I closed the ordering on the 29th. I only put TP on there because he seems to need constant reassurance he's getting them.

Here's the people after JPM at the end of my list, aka the people getting leftovers n shiz.

width="113" style="width: 113px"
|-
|  style="height: 20px; width: 150px" | Jpm804
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Wilsongunawan
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Tp4issue
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | All The Fire
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Turbocharged
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Gadnium
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Akimbo
|-
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 March 2012, 22:30:44
Quote
. I only put TP on there because he seems to need constant reassurance he's getting them.

lol. that guy is annoying as hell.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 22 March 2012, 23:15:21
Quote from: demik;554195
lol. that guy is annoying as hell.

Ehh,, guy,, I'm right here,,, not cool bro,, :tsk:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 22 March 2012, 23:17:53
Quote from: Ragnorock;554190
You're on my spreadsheet, that's all that matters. I stopped caring about updating it when I closed the ordering on the 29th. I only put TP on there because he seems to need constant reassurance he's getting them.

Here's the people after JPM at the end of my list, aka the people getting leftovers n shiz.

width="113" style="width: 113px"
|-
|  style="height: 20px; width: 150px" | Jpm804
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Wilsongunawan
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Tp4issue
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | All The Fire
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Turbocharged
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Gadnium
|-
|  style="height: 20px" | Akimbo
|-

I appreciate it,, I appologize for my paranoia
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Thu, 22 March 2012, 23:18:53
Quote from: tp4tissue;554248
Ehh,, guy,, I'm right here,,, not cool bro,, :tsk:


Doesn't help when you present yourself that way :behindsofa:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 March 2012, 23:23:58
Quote from: tp4tissue;554248
Ehh,, guy,, I'm right here,,, not cool bro,, :tsk:

see "are there any girls on geekhack" thread if you need proof
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Thu, 22 March 2012, 23:32:57
Quote from: demik;554260
see "are there any girls on geekhack" thread if you need proof

I just did. All I can say is wow. Just wow.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 22 March 2012, 23:33:09
Quote from: demik;554260
see "are there any girls on geekhack" thread if you need proof

proof that you guys were picking on me for making a casual observation.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Fri, 23 March 2012, 08:30:11
I got in on the left overs for a 10keyless set, but if anyone has a Tsangan set that they don't really want, I'd be interested in taking over for you.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 30 March 2012, 20:56:51
Okay so Marclgw paid his invoice minus 2 104 sets. That means I now have 6 104 sets and 1 TKL set left. All invoices have been paid, and I asked Melissa for an accurate ETA and astonishingly my prediction of an April 10th ship date was completely accurate. So they'll be in my hands in less than 2 weeks! I guess I better get to making boxes >.>

Get the leftovers while you can, once pics of these start showing up they're going to go fast, remember the Nyancat sets.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:05:51
Quote from: Ragnorock;562082
Okay so Marclgw paid his invoice minus 2 104 sets. That means I now have 6 104 sets and 1 TKL set left. All invoices have been paid, and I asked Melissa for an accurate ETA and astonishingly my prediction of an April 10th ship date was completely accurate. So they'll be in my hands in less than 2 weeks! I guess I better get to making boxes >.>

Get the leftovers while you can, once pics of these start showing up they're going to go fast, remember the Nyancat sets.

,,(O.o),, How do you make boxes???

And why do you need to make them??  can you just use the box that comes standard with the keys??
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:39:48
Quote from: tp4tissue;562240
,,(O.o),, How do you make boxes???

And why do you need to make them??  can you just use the box that comes standard with the keys??

probably folding them out and labeling them
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:49:34
Quote from: Ragnorock;562082
Okay so Marclgw paid his invoice minus 2 104 sets. That means I now have 6 104 sets and 1 TKL set left. All invoices have been paid, and I asked Melissa for an accurate ETA and astonishingly my prediction of an April 10th ship date was completely accurate. So they'll be in my hands in less than 2 weeks! I guess I better get to making boxes >.>

Get the leftovers while you can, once pics of these start showing up they're going to go fast, remember the Nyancat sets.
yep, these are going to look fantastic. they should go fast folks -- get in while you can!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:02:17
Quote from: tp4tissue;562240
,,(O.o),, How do you make boxes???

Quote from: tp4tissue;562240
And why do you need to make them?? can you just use the box that comes standard with the keys??
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Well first TP, I head out in to the nearest forest and find a good dead standing tree. Not only are living trees not good for making cardboard due to the moisture content (its harder to shred them into chips) its also against the law. I then proceed to cut that down, strip all of the bark, and haul it into the living room of my apartment.

From there, I proceed to hand shave with a scalpel thousands of slivers of wood, into a large pile, about 6 feet at the base per 50 boxes. I have to be careful not to let my dog get in it this time, because last time it was a nightmare. I'm still finding bits and pieces in the couch cushions. From there I add several reams of paper, and put it all in my industrial blender with deionized water. From there I take it and pour the pulp into a mold I have prepared and press it into one outer sheet of the cardboard. I then make a second sheet, and carefully glue it to the first sheet in a ripple pattern. From there all I have to do is apply a third sheet, and I have one box almost ready to ship. Alas, I have about 110 boxes to ship, and some of a larger size that will require a new mold and more material. I hope that the wood I have gathered will be sufficient, as last time I went out it was raining and I slipped with my chainsaw in hand and put a nasty gash in my leg as well as ripped my shiny new Old Navy jeans. Fortunately I know first aid and was able to staunch the bleeding before passing out.

Following a box being completed, I have to hand paint the outside print because I do not own an industrial cardboard printer, nor does it showcase the care I put into my group buys. For you see, that measly $20 markup is all I have going in this world, and I need to make sure everyone gets their money's worth. Once the painting is completed, I fold the boxes along the design I have created to forge a wonderful looking box, that holds about 300 keys. Alas, my work is not done. I must apply the adhesive and removable strip to the closing flap, so that not a keycap gets lost. When dealing with such incredibly unique items, failure to deliver the goods in whole is not an option. This is a very messy and dangerous process, as the adhesive when mixed creates a great deal of flammable gases, for which I do not have a respirator and my fire extinguisher is ill equipped to handle a large explosion. Never fear, even when high as a kite, I observe several precautions and fortunately I have never smoked. Once the adhesive has safely been supplied, I cut the non stick backing with my crayola brand zig zag scissors for added flair, and apply it to the adhesive. Unfortunately I am not a perfect human being, and fail to apply it before the adhesive touches one of the other flaps on the box. In the end, one in every 5 boxes never sees the light of day, but this failure rate has been deemed acceptable for my own sanity.

All in all, it takes quite a bit of sacrifice, but in the end, I do it gladly for this community, and in return I ask but a $1 handling fee for each box shipped.

I hope you understand why I must get started now, as only having 2 weeks to prepare really puts the pressure on.

In fact, I better head out and go find a good tree right now, I'm sure the moon will show up sometime and guide my way to the tree in my destiny.

Cheers,

Dave out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:12:32
lmao
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rainb1ood on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:14:58
Good read. Im done for tonight.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:18:15
gg
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Sat, 31 March 2012, 02:49:53
Well played sir.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 31 March 2012, 02:53:47
gg indeed :rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 31 March 2012, 05:25:34
Quote from: Ragnorock;562312

Well first TP, I head out in to the nearest forest and find a good dead standing tree. Not only are living trees not good for making cardboard due to the moisture content (its harder to shred them into chips) its also against the law. I then proceed to cut that down, strip all of the bark, and haul it into the living room of my apartment.

From there, I proceed to hand shave with a scalpel thousands of slivers of wood, into a large pile, about 6 feet at the base per 50 boxes. I have to be careful not to let my dog get in it this time, because last time it was a nightmare. I'm still finding bits and pieces in the couch cushions. From there I add several reams of paper, and put it all in my industrial blender with deionized water. From there I take it and pour the pulp into a mold I have prepared and press it into one outer sheet of the cardboard. I then make a second sheet, and carefully glue it to the first sheet in a ripple pattern. From there all I have to do is apply a third sheet, and I have one box almost ready to ship. Alas, I have about 110 boxes to ship, and some of a larger size that will require a new mold and more material. I hope that the wood I have gathered will be sufficient, as last time I went out it was raining and I slipped with my chainsaw in hand and put a nasty gash in my leg as well as ripped my shiny new Old Navy jeans. Fortunately I know first aid and was able to staunch the bleeding before passing out.

Following a box being completed, I have to hand paint the outside print because I do not own an industrial cardboard printer, nor does it showcase the care I put into my group buys. For you see, that measly $20 markup is all I have going in this world, and I need to make sure everyone gets their money's worth. Once the painting is completed, I fold the boxes along the design I have created to forge a wonderful looking box, that holds about 300 keys. Alas, my work is not done. I must apply the adhesive and removable strip to the closing flap, so that not a keycap gets lost. When dealing with such incredibly unique items, failure to deliver the goods in whole is not an option. This is a very messy and dangerous process, as the adhesive when mixed creates a great deal of flammable gases, for which I do not have a respirator and my fire extinguisher is ill equipped to handle a large explosion. Never fear, even when high as a kite, I observe several precautions and fortunately I have never smoked. Once the adhesive has safely been supplied, I cut the non stick backing with my crayola brand zig zag scissors for added flair, and apply it to the adhesive. Unfortunately I am not a perfect human being, and fail to apply it before the adhesive touches one of the other flaps on the box. In the end, one in every 5 boxes never sees the light of day, but this failure rate has been deemed acceptable for my own sanity.

All in all, it takes quite a bit of sacrifice, but in the end, I do it gladly for this community, and in return I ask but a $1 handling fee for each box shipped.

I hope you understand why I must get started now, as only having 2 weeks to prepare really puts the pressure on.

In fact, I better head out and go find a good tree right now, I'm sure the moon will show up sometime and guide my way to the tree in my destiny.

Cheers,

Dave out.


I was sleepy and asked a silly question..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Sat, 31 March 2012, 07:43:49
Damn Dave, I now see you with a new, brighter light. Now that's dedication.

P.S. I would like my name engraved on my box :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 31 March 2012, 08:07:24
Quote from: Ragnorock;562312

Well first TP, I head out in to the nearest forest and find a good dead standing tree. Not only are living trees not good for making cardboard due to the moisture content (its harder to shred them into chips) its also against the law. I then proceed to cut that down, strip all of the bark, and haul it into the living room of my apartment.

From there, I proceed to hand shave with a scalpel thousands of slivers of wood, into a large pile, about 6 feet at the base per 50 boxes. I have to be careful not to let my dog get in it this time, because last time it was a nightmare. I'm still finding bits and pieces in the couch cushions. From there I add several reams of paper, and put it all in my industrial blender with deionized water. From there I take it and pour the pulp into a mold I have prepared and press it into one outer sheet of the cardboard. I then make a second sheet, and carefully glue it to the first sheet in a ripple pattern. From there all I have to do is apply a third sheet, and I have one box almost ready to ship. Alas, I have about 110 boxes to ship, and some of a larger size that will require a new mold and more material. I hope that the wood I have gathered will be sufficient, as last time I went out it was raining and I slipped with my chainsaw in hand and put a nasty gash in my leg as well as ripped my shiny new Old Navy jeans. Fortunately I know first aid and was able to staunch the bleeding before passing out.

Following a box being completed, I have to hand paint the outside print because I do not own an industrial cardboard printer, nor does it showcase the care I put into my group buys. For you see, that measly $20 markup is all I have going in this world, and I need to make sure everyone gets their money's worth. Once the painting is completed, I fold the boxes along the design I have created to forge a wonderful looking box, that holds about 300 keys. Alas, my work is not done. I must apply the adhesive and removable strip to the closing flap, so that not a keycap gets lost. When dealing with such incredibly unique items, failure to deliver the goods in whole is not an option. This is a very messy and dangerous process, as the adhesive when mixed creates a great deal of flammable gases, for which I do not have a respirator and my fire extinguisher is ill equipped to handle a large explosion. Never fear, even when high as a kite, I observe several precautions and fortunately I have never smoked. Once the adhesive has safely been supplied, I cut the non stick backing with my crayola brand zig zag scissors for added flair, and apply it to the adhesive. Unfortunately I am not a perfect human being, and fail to apply it before the adhesive touches one of the other flaps on the box. In the end, one in every 5 boxes never sees the light of day, but this failure rate has been deemed acceptable for my own sanity.

All in all, it takes quite a bit of sacrifice, but in the end, I do it gladly for this community, and in return I ask but a $1 handling fee for each box shipped.

I hope you understand why I must get started now, as only having 2 weeks to prepare really puts the pressure on.

In fact, I better head out and go find a good tree right now, I'm sure the moon will show up sometime and guide my way to the tree in my destiny.

Cheers,

Dave out.

I believed you up until this point...after that I knew your were BS'ing me. XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Sat, 31 March 2012, 08:07:42
Quote from: Ragnorock;562312

Well first TP, I head out in to the nearest forest and find a good dead standing tree. Not only are living trees not good for making cardboard due to the moisture content (its harder to shred them into chips) its also against the law. I then proceed to cut that down, strip all of the bark, and haul it into the living room of my apartment.

From there, I proceed to hand shave with a scalpel thousands of slivers of wood, into a large pile, about 6 feet at the base per 50 boxes. I have to be careful not to let my dog get in it this time, because last time it was a nightmare. I'm still finding bits and pieces in the couch cushions. From there I add several reams of paper, and put it all in my industrial blender with deionized water. From there I take it and pour the pulp into a mold I have prepared and press it into one outer sheet of the cardboard. I then make a second sheet, and carefully glue it to the first sheet in a ripple pattern. From there all I have to do is apply a third sheet, and I have one box almost ready to ship. Alas, I have about 110 boxes to ship, and some of a larger size that will require a new mold and more material. I hope that the wood I have gathered will be sufficient, as last time I went out it was raining and I slipped with my chainsaw in hand and put a nasty gash in my leg as well as ripped my shiny new Old Navy jeans. Fortunately I know first aid and was able to staunch the bleeding before passing out.

Following a box being completed, I have to hand paint the outside print because I do not own an industrial cardboard printer, nor does it showcase the care I put into my group buys. For you see, that measly $20 markup is all I have going in this world, and I need to make sure everyone gets their money's worth. Once the painting is completed, I fold the boxes along the design I have created to forge a wonderful looking box, that holds about 300 keys. Alas, my work is not done. I must apply the adhesive and removable strip to the closing flap, so that not a keycap gets lost. When dealing with such incredibly unique items, failure to deliver the goods in whole is not an option. This is a very messy and dangerous process, as the adhesive when mixed creates a great deal of flammable gases, for which I do not have a respirator and my fire extinguisher is ill equipped to handle a large explosion. Never fear, even when high as a kite, I observe several precautions and fortunately I have never smoked. Once the adhesive has safely been supplied, I cut the non stick backing with my crayola brand zig zag scissors for added flair, and apply it to the adhesive. Unfortunately I am not a perfect human being, and fail to apply it before the adhesive touches one of the other flaps on the box. In the end, one in every 5 boxes never sees the light of day, but this failure rate has been deemed acceptable for my own sanity.

All in all, it takes quite a bit of sacrifice, but in the end, I do it gladly for this community, and in return I ask but a $1 handling fee for each box shipped.

I hope you understand why I must get started now, as only having 2 weeks to prepare really puts the pressure on.

In fact, I better head out and go find a good tree right now, I'm sure the moon will show up sometime and guide my way to the tree in my destiny.

Cheers,

Dave out.


+1, spitting out mad truth. Never knew making boxes could be so hard.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sat, 31 March 2012, 11:20:32
Quote from: tp4tissue;562419
I was sleepy and asked a silly question..

There are no silly questions. Just dumb people.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 31 March 2012, 11:23:40
Quote from: mickd;562451
Damn Dave, I now see you with a new, brighter light. Now that's dedication.

P.S. I would like my name engraved on my box :D
Will do!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 31 March 2012, 11:58:07
Quote from: demik;562578
There are no silly questions. Just dumb people.

This made me laugh hahaha
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Sat, 31 March 2012, 13:24:44
Quote from: tp4tissue;562419
I was sleepy and asked a silly question..

Actually it provided a lot of humor:) Don't feel bad.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:04:38
I think I'm going to post that in the OP of all my group buys from now on. XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Sat, 31 March 2012, 21:34:30
Quote from: mickd;562451
P.S. I would like my name engraved on my box :D

I want mine doubleshot, please.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 01 April 2012, 19:31:56
Someone got lucky enough to grab a set of these. Yup, I did. =D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:35:46
Quote from: tp4tissue;538127
I wouldn't mind if you used some extra money to get fat on icecream.

Also, I am GOING CRAZY,, ''more" crazy,, waiting for the keycapss..

Is there any way we can expedite the process,  like threaten this "melissa",, or SP???


lolol
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:38:57
Psychologically unstable.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:42:11
I've made a huge mistake
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:43:56
Quote from: Ragnorock;563997
Psychologically unstable.

I'm known to be a little opinionated here/there..

btw, r u refunding me or not..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:46:20
here's the deal dude. dave is organizing this out of the goodness of his own little clicky clacky heart and owes you literally nothing but a shipped set of keys when they come in. until then, please stop bugging him so he can get on with his life and keep doing these. thanks bud.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:46:49
Quote from: metafour;564003
I've made a huge mistake

you're also a feeble minded follower who's doomed to serve an abusive overlord,, that or be whipped by some fat chic
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:47:56
Quote from: mkawa;564013
here's the deal dude. dave is organizing this out of the goodness of his own little clicky clacky heart and owes you literally nothing but a shipped set of keys when they come in. until then, please stop bugging him so he can get on with his life and keep doing these. thanks bud.


Like I said in the other thread,, I appreciate his work, HOWEVER

I am angry at the fact that he'd use the keycaps against me... threatening me at every corner to serve his agenda...

How is that not a douche move???
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 01 April 2012, 20:50:34
threatening in what way? that'd he refund you your money back?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:03:35
Where's imav when we need him?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:04:38
This thread gets better everyday.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:04:46
Quote from: demik;564020
threatening in what way? that'd he refund you your money back?


Are you stupid or just dense

He knows I do want the caps,, so he's threatening me with the fact that he'll cancel my order..
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:08:05
Quote from: tp4tissue;564042
Are you stupid or just dense

He knows I do want the caps,, so he's threatening me with the fact that he'll cancel my order..

whoa there princess. i asked you in what way is he threatening you.

no need to be a rude little dumb ****.

now i hope he does cancel your order because you are annoying as ****.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:08:27
I already refunded his damn money the moment he implied my girlfriend was fat/ugly. Considering she's far superior to any hooker he brings in drunk from the bar, I took great offense. It should show up in his account tomorrow.

I never threatened to pull your order if you didn't shape up. At most I warned you that I was mulling it over as I was making the decision. What you are doing is fabricating this fantasy that I'm some weird overlord that has brainwashed people into hating you, when you did that job yourself. Don't even think to blame me because nobody will ever love you.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:08:41
and dave has done this twice..

first time he threatened me I play possum, cuz it might've be my bad calling metafour a jerk.

second time,, the argument didn't even involve dave.. I only said hey, those caps doesn't have the right serifs.. and he couldn't help denigrate me again for whatever reason, that I don't know.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:09:51
i fully endorse ragnorock's decision and recommend any future group buy organizers not do business with tp4.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:10:28
Quote from: Ragnorock;564048
I already refunded his damn money the moment he implied my girlfriend was fat/ugly. Considering she's far superior to any hooker he brings in drunk from the bar, I took great offense. It should show up in his account tomorrow.

I never threatened to pull your order if you didn't shape up. At most I warned you that I was mulling it over as I was making the decision. What you are doing is fabricating this fantasy that I'm some weird overlord that has brainwashed people into hating you, when you did that job yourself. Don't even think to blame me because nobody will ever love you.

How does paypal refund work, I don't see any transactions?

ok/nm I see it,


and I don't blame you for anything. you can't help it, it seems
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:12:01
Quote from: mkawa;564052
i fully endorse ragnorock's decision and recommend any future group buy organizers not do business with tp4.

Screw you kawa, I payed, On time,, perfect as far as customers go.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:13:13
u just cant seem to keep your mouth shut.

you know that saying that opinions are like *******s?

please, learn it and live it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:15:33
Quote from: demik;564066
u just cant seem to keep your mouth shut.

you know that saying that opinions are like *******s?

please, learn it and live it.

You know that poem,, "and then they came for me"

that's what shut-ins like you, taking it up the ass all the time will get.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:19:54
i expect better from somebody so opinionated.

i give that a 3.

c'mon champ, you can do better. pretend im a woman on the internet. since you're so good at insulting them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:23:22
Quote from: demik;564072
i expect better from somebody so opinionated.

i give that a 3.

c'mon champ, you can do better. pretend im a woman on the internet. since you're so good at insulting them.

I would, but any escalation would bring yo-mama into this.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:24:41
and THAT is suppose to be better?

you're a terrible troll.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:25:20
I'm just going to wait until someone reports him and he gets banned. He has contributed nothing but drama since the moment he showed up, and there is no need for him to be here. Rather than trying further to talk some sense into him, I would prefer that we be added to the list of forums he's been banned from, since there is probably a pretty decent list by now.

I mean really, name one thing you have done to help anyone on here out? Go ahead TP, surprise us all with what a nice guy you actually are. Rofl.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:25:53
Quote from: tp4tissue;564058
Screw you kawa, I payed, On time,, perfect as far as customers go.


tp, you've 2-plyed.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:26:38
Quote from: demik;564079
and THAT is suppose to be better?

you're a terrible troll.

You're the troll, troll..

I made a point, I stood behind it..

You're just angry at something. As to what I can't tell.

Were you the guy taking martial arts, and I made a comment about how it was a waste of time.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:28:52
Quote from: tp4tissue;564083
Were you the guy taking martial arts, and I made a comment about how it was a waste of time.

wouldn't that fit the definition of trolling?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:29:20
Hi everyone, since there are no mods, if you feel tp4tissue has been personally attacking other forum members, and I do, please report him on this post:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27473-Ragnarok-Red-on-Black-87-104-Keyset-Order-Thread-MONEY-SENT-ETA-APRIL-10TH&p=564076&viewfull=1#post564076

Reason: personal attack

That hopefully we will get iMav's attention.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:29:20
Quote from: Ragnorock;564081
I'm just going to wait until someone reports him and he gets banned. He has contributed nothing but drama since the moment he showed up, and there is no need for him to be here. Rather than trying further to talk some sense into him, I would prefer that we be added to the list of forums he's been banned from, since there is probably a pretty decent list by now.

I mean really, name one thing you have done to help anyone on here out? Go ahead TP, surprise us all with what a nice guy you actually are. Rofl.

certainly, i contribute great advice in my previous threads,

such as

mx-brown hate tread.

where i pointed out all the flaws in design of the mx - brown key switch..

why the mx-blue actually has less friction feel than mx-brown

And, I've acquainted everyone with fancy psycho babble such as,, belief perseverance, group think, and effort justification.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:29:51
:pop2:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:30:41
Quote from: WRXChris;564084
wouldn't that fit the definition of trolling?

well yes, it would if it were a baseless insult.

I made an effort to justify it in terms of economic and practical reasons
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:31:55
Quote from: litster;564089
Hi everyone, since there are no mods, if you feel tp4tissue has been personally attacking other forum members, and I do, please report him on this post:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?27473-Ragnarok-Red-on-Black-87-104-Keyset-Order-Thread-MONEY-SENT-ETA-APRIL-10TH&p=564076&viewfull=1#post564076

Reason: personal attack

That hopefully we will get iMav's attention.

Oops! I read that one wrong I guess. For some reason I thought he was going to bring the cello player into this...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:31:58
Quote from: litster;564082
tp, you've 2-plyed.

oh right, paid.. LOL
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:38:05
Click that triangle icon to report inappropriate post:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=46850&d=1333334215)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:38:48
the post prior to that is a good candidate as well
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 01 April 2012, 21:44:17
Any of his posts are good candidates, he has never ever not been negative.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 22:33:55
tp4tissue is getting a time out.  Good job guys.  Let's return to our regular programming.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 01 April 2012, 22:38:21
Coolio, thanks guys. I didn't want to be the one to complain, since I already had to with Bini.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 22:41:13
BiNiaRiS happens to be buddy of many of us, though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 01 April 2012, 22:42:34
Yeah, which is why I just wanted him to stay away from me and not be banned. I recognize his contributions here, I just don't want him threadcrapping on my group buys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: feng on Mon, 02 April 2012, 00:41:15
kinda regret I didn't take a tsangan kit since I might barely own a korean custom keyboard in the ffffffffffuture.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Mon, 02 April 2012, 00:43:59
Quote from: litster;564089
Hi everyone, since there are no mods…


…stop feeding the troll. ._.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:05:55
Quote from: Zehkul;564333
…stop feeding the troll. ._.

The troll has been dispatched.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:07:11
Quote from: feng;564328
kinda regret I didn't take a tsangan kit since I might barely own a korean custom keyboard in the ffffffffffuture.

You can still order tsangan kits for the cream cheese set, and most likely for the Diablo set.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:22:20
Quote from: feng;564328
kinda regret I didn't take a tsangan kit since I might barely own a korean custom keyboard in the ffffffffffuture.

I swore I told you to get it but nooooo you didn't listen to me
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:42:36
whatd i miss
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:45:33
Quote from: demik;564382
whatd i miss

Pure comedy!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:46:36
did dante buy something and sell it right after?!?!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:47:45
Quote from: demik;564387
did dante buy something and sell it right after?!?!

Today it was lightsout.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:50:41
May, I ask what time is it in US (PST) right now?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:51:27
11:51

Quote from: metafour;564388
Today it was lightsout.

oh i know about that one. he gave me a special shout out haha
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:52:44
at night? still on April 1?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 April 2012, 01:53:38
yeah, still april 1st.

11:53pm
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: feng on Mon, 02 April 2012, 02:28:50
Quote from: litster;564365
You can still order tsangan kits for the cream cheese set, and most likely for the Diablo set.

Yeah I ordered a set from cream cheese group buy just in case if I can get my dream keyboard.

Quote from: tsangan;564369
I swore I told you to get it but nooooo you didn't listen to me

I'm pretty sure that's not me. :O I always take the others' suggestion. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 02 April 2012, 10:44:10
Quote from: metafour;564388
Today it was lightsout.

Hey wait **** off :rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 20:03:58
Looking forward to these. My red cmstorm has been sitting bare for over a month.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 06 April 2012, 20:05:07
They will be here next week. Hopefully early next week. ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 20:26:52
:D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Fri, 06 April 2012, 20:32:34
Quote from: lightsout714;569432
Looking forward to these. My red cmstorm has been sitting bare for over a month.

you animal! you have that poor keyboard naked in the closet. pervert :rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Fri, 06 April 2012, 21:19:53
Quote from: Ragnorock;569433
They will be here next week. Hopefully early next week. ;)

Nice. Now I just need another Poker to put my set on...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 06 April 2012, 22:00:31
Need moar keycaps nao!  Rag, tell me you're gonna post pics of the key caps when you receive them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Fri, 06 April 2012, 22:20:30
Quote from: lightsout714;569432
Looking forward to these. My red cmstorm has been sitting bare for over a month.


Same here.  Those CM Storm legends are hideous...I couldn't look at them anymore.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 06 April 2012, 22:38:15
Quote from: AKIMbO;569496
Need moar keycaps nao!  Rag, tell me you're gonna post pics of the key caps when you receive them.
I would be remiss if I did not! Believe me its going to be photoshoot time once they get here. I got some pics from SP a couple of days ago but they're blurry and not color adjusted so they look terrible otherwise I'd post them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 06 April 2012, 22:51:01
Quote from: demik;569449
you animal! you have that poor keyboard naked in the closet. pervert :rofl:


Actually its sitting in a plastic tub but yah. Its all naked :)

Sold the chinese caps anticipating these. But I've been gaming more and I want to use the reds again.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 07 April 2012, 03:50:44
oh man, so excited that these are finally coming.

you know you're sick when you're thinking about getting a keyboard solely to put your extra DS keys on :facepalm:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mike Rowe on Sat, 07 April 2012, 10:04:39
Quote from: mkawa;569684
oh man, so excited that these are finally coming.

you know you're sick when you're thinking about getting a keyboard solely to put your extra DS keys on :facepalm:


I know that feel
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Sat, 07 April 2012, 11:53:30
darn, too cheap to hold out. order sent.

my poor poor wallet :(
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Sat, 07 April 2012, 14:51:15
Glad you're close to SP Rag. I'm 15 minutes away from them and it's pretty crazy how far some of the caps will travel before getting to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 08 April 2012, 16:48:38
I've got issues...I just bought a fico tkl mx brown just for these key caps.  Red on black keys on a white fico is going to look awesome.    

PS.  Dave I hate you for giving me more reasons to spend my money XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 08 April 2012, 16:55:37
You're welcome. I'm also going to be doing Red Alert for MX after Portal round 2/biohazard. Enjoy being broke! I am until these last leftover sets sell.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 08 April 2012, 17:00:20
Yeah I bought another Poker to put this set on as well...

Awww crap, Red Alert next? Are you going to include the red number row in that buy?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 08 April 2012, 17:00:48
Quote from: Ragnorock;570846
You're welcome. I'm also going to be doing Red Alert for MX after Portal round 2/biohazard. Enjoy being broke! I am until these last leftover sets sell.

Red alert...portal...and blood!? Takemymoney.JPEG
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 08 April 2012, 17:20:50
Quote from: metafour;570855
Yeah I bought another Poker to put this set on as well...

Awww crap, Red Alert next? Are you going to include the red number row in that buy?
If there is demand for it. Base set is going to be all white, with an add on set for all of the grey modifiers in the original set. What color legends would you want on the red keys?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sun, 08 April 2012, 17:26:31
Quote from: Ragnorock;570876
What color legends would you want on the red keys?

White, just like the set that was available over on Deskthority.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 08 April 2012, 17:43:28
Coolio. Will do. Btw its going to be dyesubs. If I'm going to be doing it, I'm doing it right, just like the original set.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 08 April 2012, 17:46:11
Huh? Original set isn't dye sub.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 08 April 2012, 18:06:49
Oh... it isn't? I figured it was. We could also do custom legends for basically no additional cost.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 08 April 2012, 18:23:45
nope, DS. with a ton of customs legends that drove up the price. but since it was so popular sets werent THAT expensive.

i doubt it will be possible to get everything (or at least the good parts) of red alert without it being incredibly expensive tho. look at kl's dye sub GB. 30 sets was 95ish, and that was just a 90 keyset if im not mistaken. can't imagine how much it will be  with red number row unless we get 200+ orders.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 08 April 2012, 18:37:23
Lol if you think red alert is only going to get 30 orders... I'm thinking more like 150 at a minimum. Should get into doubleshot territory, like $65-75 hopefully. Still haven't looked into it yet obviously.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Sun, 08 April 2012, 18:38:52
What’s the point of red alert made by SP when Imsto is selling the same in thick, Cherry and better?

;P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Sun, 08 April 2012, 18:46:16
Quote from: Zehkul;570943
What’s the point of red alert made by SP when Imsto is selling the same in thick, Cherry and better?

;P

better font. easier communication. a caps lock that isn't a different color. and the fact we can choose a background color?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Sun, 08 April 2012, 19:21:50
I thought the background color was supposed to be white? Capslock is a problem, but besides that — asking doesn’t hurt, especially when it’s a 200+ order.

(SP Fonts xD)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jinhan108 on Sun, 08 April 2012, 22:56:44
PBT Dye Sub Red Alerts? Where do I sign up?!?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Mon, 09 April 2012, 13:38:38
i should just automatically set my checking account to forward 50 bucks a week to Ragnarok....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Mon, 09 April 2012, 14:08:25
Quote from: projectD;571622
i should just automatically set my checking account to forward 50 bucks a week to Ragnarok....

This is.true
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Wed, 11 April 2012, 00:32:25
Quote
ETA APRIL 10TH

:director: Melissa
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 11 April 2012, 00:47:28
Checked the mailbox today, they probably shipped today and will be here Thurs. Still waiting on confirmation of that though, she sidestepped that question with a response to my Red Alert question instead.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Wed, 11 April 2012, 01:04:29
Ok thanks \o/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 11 April 2012, 01:19:29
She's probably waist-deep in red-on-black key caps.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 11 April 2012, 01:24:27
No kidding with about 13,000 keys ordered. XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: genkigavin on Wed, 11 April 2012, 01:31:30
we so excited
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kikkobots on Wed, 11 April 2012, 11:30:31
PBT red alert would be so $$$. we're not talking about topre red alert are we?

doesnt seem like it would be too hard/expensive since imsto's group buy has the red text already done with similar colored keys.

thick PBT sets please. i am still buying ABS cuz the colors are nice (this one and cream cheese and green), but if those were offered in pbt? i would be all over that
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 11 April 2012, 11:33:16
Quote from: genkigavin;572766
we so excited


Maybe Dave will get them on Friday...Friday...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 11 April 2012, 11:50:15
i'm going to pull all my keys and type on the stems until i get this set so that the excitement of getting them is appropriately increased by several orders of magnitude
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 11 April 2012, 13:14:28
Okay they ship today. Here is the tracking number for those going as crazy as I am.
Ups
1Z8A59T80354842672

Hasn't been picked up yet so there is no record but it should update tonight. Hopefully Friday, I want the weekend to pack them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Wed, 11 April 2012, 13:41:08
Quote from: kikkobots;573006

thick PBT sets please. i am still buying ABS cuz the colors are nice (this one and cream cheese and green), but if those were offered in pbt? i would be all over that

Thick doubleshot PBT sets will come as soon as you can find us a manufacturer
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 11 April 2012, 14:03:38
I don't get the whole obsession with thick keys. I can step (using my heel) on one of these keys with all of my "impressive" 220lb mass, and nothing happens. It isn't like the sound difference is significant, nor is there any significant difference in wear qualities. We are talking about MX Red Alert, there is already a Topre GB in the works. Doubleshot doesn't work with PBT, it doesn't flow as nice I think and its more expensive.

The only reason to use PBT to begin with is because it is porous and can be sublimated. Its only a coincidence that people like the feeling of PBT and it gets used in engraved sets.

Anyways, the keys in this set will be here soon, and I've gotten several PMs of people interested in the last few 104 sets I have, so expect them to be out of stock and the market price to go up beyond what mine are selling at once the keys ship out. If you want one get it now.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 11 April 2012, 14:14:47
PBT has better wear properties, too.  But yeah, we got what we got and what we got is coming.  Why are we talking about PBT here?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 11 April 2012, 14:21:30
Not just better, MUCH better. ABS wears fast like hell. I get an ABS spacebar to be shiny within few WEEKS, while I’ve got 30 year old used boards that have next to no wear, thanks to PBT keys.

There definitely is a difference in feel, I can tell my thick and thin Cherry keys apart just by typing on them, but I couldn’t tell you which I’d like more, so yes, this issue is highly overrated.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 11 April 2012, 14:28:42
The wear depends on the PH balance of your sweat, rather how acidic it is. If you have really neutral sweat, then it will not wear near as fast, regardless of switch type.

We were talking about red alert being PBT which is what I had in mind for it. Everyone is perfectly happy with these as doubleshots, because while dye sub keys are nice, doubleshots are too.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Wed, 11 April 2012, 21:20:44
Quote from: Zehkul;573134
ABS wears fast like hell. I get an ABS spacebar to be shiny within few WEEKS,

I've been using my Filco for a year now, and the spacebar is hardly shiny at all ;) Lucky me I guess haha.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Tranquilite on Thu, 12 April 2012, 01:03:35
I'm actively following this group buy just so that I can have a better idea of knowing when the Portal group buy will start...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Tranquilite on Thu, 12 April 2012, 01:09:28
I'm actively following this group buy just so that I can have a better idea of knowing when the Portal group buy will start...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Thu, 12 April 2012, 01:29:22
Quote from: Ragnorock;573072
Okay they ship today. Here is the tracking number for those going as crazy as I am.
Ups
1Z8A59T80354842672

Hasn't been picked up yet so there is no record but it should update tonight. Hopefully Friday, I want the weekend to pack them.


I KEEP REFRESHING THE PAGE BUT THE PACKAGE ISN'T MOVING!!!!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 12 April 2012, 02:08:58
TWO DAYS TO GO 300 MILES UPS?!@?!? SERIOUSLY?!?!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 12 April 2012, 06:30:28
Lol...if you google the UPS tracking # you get this thread as the first hit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 12 April 2012, 11:49:06
Lol yeah. Here is where I get nervous on whether a lot of these orders will fit in the small flat rate box. I charged a lot of people for the small boxes when they were questionable on fitting. The extra donations I received may end up going to cover the extra costs of shipping those orders.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 12 April 2012, 11:53:52
Why don't you just ask them to cough up the extra couple of dollars for a medium sized flat rate box.  Make the extra couple of dollars optional.  I bet a lot of people would voluntarily give you a couple bucks...the prices for this GB were  too good to say no without looking l like a cheap expletive.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 12 April 2012, 12:03:40
I recently bought a 104 set from someone who used a small flat-rate box. It took up a little less than half the box (without trying to get them to fit properly, just thrown in a ziplock).

So I think for less 2 or less sets, a small box should be fine. If it's 3 or more you might have a tough time fitting them in a small flat-rate. But those are also 87 kits, not full 104, so a few less keys to worry about.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 12 April 2012, 12:07:36
@Akimbo, I did that already with the sorting fee, and got more than I needed. There are a few I had already spoken with at the time of payment about it being questionable. Other than those, if there are any unexpected ones that don't fit, I will simply cover the costs myself.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Thu, 12 April 2012, 16:17:51
19.00 lbs of keycaps haha :))
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 12 April 2012, 16:27:15
Lol try 40, two boxes!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 12 April 2012, 19:39:36
Quote from: Ragnorock;573825
@Akimbo, I did that already with the sorting fee, and got more than I needed. There are a few I had already spoken with at the time of payment about it being questionable. Other than those, if there are any unexpected ones that don't fit, I will simply cover the costs myself.


good guy rag
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 12 April 2012, 20:35:05
Lol thanks, but you should really thank the extra donators, they're the real heroes.

Anyways they will be here tomorrow, I will pack them over the weekend, and they'll ship out Monday most likely.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Thu, 12 April 2012, 22:53:25
Thanks Rag, by the way, if you get a chance could you let me know how heavy a base kit is (when they come of course)?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaen on Fri, 13 April 2012, 04:13:22
will you be posting pictures? :tongue:

what paypal do i donate some extra to for being awesome?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 13 April 2012, 10:21:34
Of course I will be posting pictures! What kind of sick bastard would I be if I didn't? I don't have a scale that would weigh that light of a mass, but when I go to the post office I will ask, then its the simple matter of subtracting the 1 oz or w/e the weight of the box is.

Again, I don't really need donations, but its the same email I sent all the invoices from, I'll PM it to you if you don't want to look it up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Fri, 13 April 2012, 10:38:02
Quote from: Ragnorock;574559
I don't have a scale that would weigh that light of a mass, but when I go to the post office I will ask, then its the simple matter of subtracting the 1 oz or w/e the weight of the box is.

Thanks Rag, that'll be great if you do. I was wondering since I might proxy Tsangan's cream cheese keys with all the other Aussies that are willing (if it ends up being cheaper).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 13 April 2012, 11:35:02
Patiently awaiting pictures :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Fri, 13 April 2012, 13:36:47
Quote from: DanGWanG;574625
Patiently awaiting pictures :)

X2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mike Rowe on Fri, 13 April 2012, 19:37:04
Quote from: DanGWanG;574625
Patiently awaiting pictures :)

This
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 13 April 2012, 19:41:41
Pullman, WA, United States    04/13/2012    3:54 P.M.    DELIVERED
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 13 April 2012, 20:45:01
>.> First post on the new keys. I'm going to take the guy that brought them over and had them delivered out to dinner so you'll have to wait for proper pictures. Here's a teaser since I'm such a nice guy. In addition, I can confirm that since I am the first person to do a group buy where the universal spacebar is involved, it does fit a Leopold. The boxes are all made and all but less than 10 have their addresses written on them. All that is left is putting them in the boxes! If I'm feeling really nice, I'll get em out tomorrow. Depends on how excited you guys are lol.
Teaser:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]48224[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Fri, 13 April 2012, 20:47:55
super awesome!!  can't wait for these, my first SP keyset! :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Fri, 13 April 2012, 20:48:52
CAN'T WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 13 April 2012, 20:52:24
Moar pictures!.............please :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 April 2012, 20:56:21
Quote from: Ragnorock;575055
>.> First post on the new keys. I'm going to take the guy that brought them over and had them delivered out to dinner so you'll have to wait for proper pictures. Here's a teaser since I'm such a nice guy. In addition, I can confirm that since I am the first person to do a group buy where the universal spacebar is involved, it does fit a Leopold. The boxes are all made and all but less than 10 have their addresses written on them. All that is left is putting them in the boxes! If I'm feeling really nice, I'll get em out tomorrow. Depends on how excited you guys are lol.
Teaser:
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actually, that would be keyboardlover. his dye sub set had the universal spacebar.

and my poker is ready for this set.

and my typenow solid.

and my dk saver.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Shiikamaru on Fri, 13 April 2012, 21:03:09
is it me or the red isnt as red as i thought it would be.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Fri, 13 April 2012, 21:03:24
I wan :Dt
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Post by: demik on Fri, 13 April 2012, 21:07:26
Quote from: Shiikamaru;575069
is it me or the red isnt as red as i thought it would be.

im guessing the glare isn't helping.
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Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 13 April 2012, 22:12:13
Do want. Luckily I'm close to rag :)
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 13 April 2012, 22:18:16
SO EXCITED
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Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 13 April 2012, 22:34:45
Yes. They look great. I need these my qf has been naked for months!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 13 April 2012, 22:56:18
I want themmmmmmm
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:06:17
Pictures are being processed now. The lighting was really, really blue today so it's kinda inconsistent. I did my best to get the colors to look as close to how they look in person, and thus some things like the color of my Realforce in the background somewhat changes. The only gripe I have is the Backspace key, which is missing the arrow. As many of you have Nyancat/other keys to replace that, I'm not sure how big of a deal that is. I suppose if it was a huge issue I could contact Melissa about it, but being as how I would want to hold onto the keys until the replacement got here, so as to not have to ship out >100 more packages, its up to you guys whether it bothers you enough. Pics momentarily, resizing them now.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:18:07
Behold, I give thee Ragnarok!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]48232[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48233[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48234[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48235[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48236[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48237[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48238[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48239[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48240[/ATTACH]

More pictures tomorrow of the add on sets etc.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:21:28
Looks really good.  But that backspace arrow....
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:24:22
yah that's weird. SP's standard backspace legend has no arrow, and the text is centered?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:28:59
I guess if that is their standard that's that, since I didn't pay a custom legend fee for it, but I know I told her that I wanted arrows on all the typical keys, which included the backspace key.
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Post by: litster on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:31:56
The windows keys look great!

For the backspace, it is the only key that is centered.  Others are left justified.  It should either be left justified or there should be an arrow to the left of the word.
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Post by: Game Theory on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:35:39
Also the basckspace "s" appears to be rotated.
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Post by: mkawa on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:36:20
yep, windows keys look awesome. hazeluff MVP!

game theory appears to be right. i think this is worth holding off mailing, personally, but if no one else cares then i guess i'll live.
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Post by: Zehkul on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:55:27
That s in backspace really is ugly. I wouldn’t really care for the missing arrow, though.
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Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:55:32
Really SP? Is it possible to ever just make the correct keycaps? Do they have a monkey doing production and a dead guy for QC?

I'm with mkawa, I'll live, but Jesus SP can't do anything right. Aside from that they look pretty good though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:57:48
We really need to get that backspace arrow fixed. :mmph:
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Post by: WorldExclusive on Fri, 13 April 2012, 23:58:22
I'll take the set as is. If they produce a replacement backspace key, I'll pay the shipping for that key later.
But I don't want my set held up because of it. I'll use a blank cap in it's place.

The "Execute" Key also looks low quality.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 14 April 2012, 00:17:35
I would like the backspace fixed.  I will already have to wait for the new backspace to be fixed.  Certainly I don't want to pay extra shipping for SP's mistake.
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Post by: soulfree914 on Sat, 14 April 2012, 00:24:57
Quote from: litster;575208
I would like the backspace fixed.  I will already have to wait for the new backspace to be fixed.  Certainly I don't want to pay extra shipping for SP's mistake.


I'm in the same boat with litster. Why do they mess up the backspace key so many times?
I'm afraid they might mess up the "wtf" backspace as well and do something like "wft". lol
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Post by: litster on Sun, 15 April 2012, 11:14:04
Geekhack was rolled back.  lots of posts in the last 36 hours are gone, including posts in this thread.  

if you missed it, SP is fixing the backspace, Rag is going to wait for the new backspace before shipping.

And I said, for those of you who would accept the backspace key as is, please never, ever run any group buy, because you are not worthy to organize group buys with your low quality standard.  I am glad Rag's getting it fixed, and SP is fixing it ASAP.
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Post by: Glissant on Sun, 15 April 2012, 11:19:24
Hahaha litster is a funny guy! Not caring about one thing automatically makes you not care about a totally different thing xD
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Post by: litster on Sun, 15 April 2012, 11:24:29
Ripster!  I thought you were gone.  Good you see you around still.  Do you have the Korean Red Alert set in your theorem thread?  That one was screwed up initially too, but it turned out very well at the end.
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 15 April 2012, 11:29:57
i suspect the backspace is the key most likely to get screwed up because our sets never seem to use exactly their standard backspace legend, and, as we've seen time and time again, it takes a few tries to get a legend cut perfectly.
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Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 15 April 2012, 11:39:20
I would like the backspace fixed as well :/
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Post by: fstop on Sun, 15 April 2012, 12:40:51
The decision has already been made... its going to be fixed.

It doesn't matter at this point whether you care or not lol.
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Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:22:22
Quote from: fstop;575310
The decision has already been made... its going to be fixed.

It doesn't matter at this point whether you care or not lol.

Mom is that you?!

LMAO...Idk what everyone is talking about the red not being red enough.  It looks exactly like the terran key to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:23:15
Quote from: litster;575244
Geekhack was rolled back.  lots of posts in the last 36 hours are gone, including posts in this thread.  

if you missed it, SP is fixing the backspace, Rag is going to wait for the new backspace before shipping.

And I said, for those of you who would accept the backspace key as is, please never, ever run any group buy, because you are not worthy to organize group buys with your low quality standard.  I am glad Rag's getting it fixed, and SP is fixing it ASAP.
This is correct, many of you may not have been around in the last 36 hours since half the time or more the site wasn't running anyways, but the keys got here, they look great except for the backspace and I already got a reply back from Melissa stating that it was indeed a production error and they will fix it right away. They simply forgot the arrow, thus why it looks like it is centered. I will not be shipping out early orders because it won't take long for them to fix it, SP is usually really good about this sort of ****. It should ship by Wed-Thurs depending on when I can find the time to pack all the boxes. I already have them made, addressed, and ready to go in an effort to have them as ready as possible though.

Here is a link to the pics if you missed them:

http://imgur.com/a/mJ0A9

Oh and another thing that got deleted... being that they are about to ship, if anyone has changed their shipping address from the one that they originally sent me in the PM, please send me another to change it otherwise it will go to your old address. Being that these sets are much more expensive, I do not want to lose a single set in the mail. However I can say with some pride that every single Nyancat set made it to its destination. 100% reliability in an over 100 order group buy is pretty awesome.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaen on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:28:48
Did private messages also get messed up as I sent a few order requests to people yesterday
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:30:48
yes, private messages also got rolled back.
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Post by: kaen on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:32:27
Oh balls, thanks
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Post by: WRXChris on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:36:48
hey Rag, someone pointed out that the "Print Screen" button is mis-labeled "Print". While it doesn't really bother me, don't you think it should be at least mentioned to Melissa? Clearly SP's production employees don't take very much pride in their work..


edit: just checked the OP and saw that's how it was designed, sorry I didn't read first!
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Post by: demik on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:39:45
Quote from: WRXChris;575363
hey Rag, someone pointed out that the "Print Screen" button is mis-labeled "Print".  While it doesn't really bother me, don't you think it should be at least mentioned to Melissa?  Clearly SP's production employees don't take very much pride in their work..

he said he didn't want to touch on it since the mock up only said print and it isn't exactly their fault.

id like to see print screen myself, but it isn't something that's killing me as much as the backspace
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Post by: mkawa on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:40:52
this was answered in the posts that got rolled back. the mockup we gave her actually said "Print" on that key, so in this case the production line was more detail-oriented than we were...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 15 April 2012, 13:41:09
Yeah that one was our fault so we get to live with it.
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Post by: snowboarder3 on Sun, 15 April 2012, 14:05:30
Is SP fixing the wonky s too or just the arrow?
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Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 15 April 2012, 14:09:46
The wonky S too.
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Post by: tsangan on Sun, 15 April 2012, 14:11:48
Oh that "s"
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Post by: demik on Sun, 15 April 2012, 14:17:25
the drunk S
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Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 15 April 2012, 15:17:57
If anyone wants a triforce key or SC2 random key now would be a good time to get one and I'll ship it with your Ragnarok order.
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Post by: All The Fire on Sun, 15 April 2012, 17:02:50
Awesome, sent you a PM for one escape key.
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Post by: Von Steve on Mon, 16 April 2012, 05:17:28
I posted this before the roll back. How much do you think it would cost for them to make the proper 'Print Screen' caps along with the Backspace ones?
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Post by: thegunner100 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 07:07:05
I had a dream this morning in which I met up with Ragnorock in person and he handed me my keycap set.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 09:03:44
Quote from: thegunner100;576025
I had a dream this morning in which I met up with Ragnorock in person and he handed me my keycap set.

Whoa you got issues. I just dream about meth. :clock:
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Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 16 April 2012, 09:18:22
I dreamed about following my path in life.  Rag came to me in my dream and said....brother, follow the arrows and I was all like but Rag, the backspace doesn't have an arrow...I felt so lost :(
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 16 April 2012, 09:23:21
:rofl:
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Post by: kaen on Mon, 16 April 2012, 09:39:19
You know you're obsessesed with keyboards when...

Quote from: thegunner100;576025
I had a dream this morning in which I met up with Ragnorock in person and he handed me my keycap set.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: thegunner100 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 09:39:27
Anyone else have any dreams about this keycap set that they want to share? :P
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 16 April 2012, 13:10:03
Another response from Melissa this morning said she will overnight them straight to me it is just a question of whether they can get them out today or tomorrow. Given that she knows how important this is I'm thinking they will find a way to get it done. Either way the latest these will ship is Thurs.

Dave out.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 16 April 2012, 13:32:06
Quote from: lightsout714;576079
Whoa you got issues. I just dream about meth. :clock:

About doing meth or selling it?
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Post by: rknize on Mon, 16 April 2012, 13:33:17
Wow, that's pretty quick response.  Will you add that to your rant as well, Rip?
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 17:34:33
Quote from: demik;576199
About doing meth or selling it?

Lol doing it.
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Post by: Reptile on Mon, 16 April 2012, 18:19:10
Quote from: lightsout714;576386
Lol doing it.

Haha wtf so random. Don't know you can afford meth and keyboards you must be rich!

sent from my mobile
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Post by: metafour on Mon, 16 April 2012, 18:27:28
Quote from: Reptile;576429
Haha wtf so random. Don't know you can afford meth and keyboards you must be rich!

sent from my mobile

He's a man**** by night... ;)
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 16 April 2012, 18:29:17
Lol wtf you guys are nuts.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 16 April 2012, 18:36:55
Quote from: lightsout714;576386
Lol doing it.

Edited jackass comment out
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 16 April 2012, 19:56:29
not cool guys, lightsout is a recovering drug addict and current kb addict. let's only indulge the kb addiction dudes mmk? lol
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 16 April 2012, 20:02:24
Okay guys, so SP failed to get them out by the end of today, probably because they didn't want to rush them through QC. They will get here by noon Wednesday, and I will do my best to pack them and get them to the post office by 3:30 since I will need an hour and a half there to get everything rung through. Its doable, but if I fail or something comes up they'll end up shipping out Thurs.
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Post by: Nighted on Mon, 16 April 2012, 20:10:39
Plus no one wants to end up ****ing with Tuco.
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Post by: mkawa on Mon, 16 April 2012, 20:30:56
np rag. we've been waiting for a month, and as excited as i am about these, a couple more days isn't worth giving anyone a heart attack.
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Post by: royalsego on Mon, 16 April 2012, 20:47:41
will we get both the misprint and the correct backspace? i kinda like the misprint :P
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Post by: soulfree914 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 20:50:22
Rag, are you going to do all the sorting by yourself?
Good luck with that. =)
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Post by: demik on Mon, 16 April 2012, 20:57:15
keycaps came sorted already iirc (and i do, since i had to pay for my sorting). i think all he has to do is pack them into their boxes since everything is ready to be shipped :)
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Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 16 April 2012, 21:05:50
Yeah everything is sorted per set, but I still have to sort them all into each box for the order. Its probably the most time consuming part of the process if you don't count collecting orders over a period of weeks. The sorting fee was so that it wasn't just bulk keycaps unsorted in any way. 15,000 of them. Lol.

Yeah I'm including the misprint backspace. I don't see any reason I'm entitled to it and what am I going to do with 100 ugly backspace keys lol. The only reason you might not is if it doesn't make your order fit, which is basically impossible due to my testing. Maybe the 1 guy who ordered 3 sets with a small box won't.
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Post by: Game Theory on Mon, 16 April 2012, 21:45:30
Hopefully folks don't miss this post and see the mistake BS first before the fixed one.
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Post by: jonnybastard on Mon, 16 April 2012, 22:20:58
Wooo so close, I'm excited! :biggrin1:
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Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 16 April 2012, 22:35:00
Quote from: mkawa;576510
not cool guys, lightsout is a recovering drug addict and current kb addict. let's only indulge the kb addiction dudes mmk? lol

Lmao its all good. Yes I used to be a pretty bad tweeker. But that was like 10 years ago. But yes I do still dream about the stuff sometimes. Its weird. Anyways sorry for the derailment. But this is GH so I guess its ok? ;)
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Post by: demik on Tue, 17 April 2012, 01:37:10
Holy crap I thought he was joking. Im so sorry dude!!
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 17 April 2012, 01:42:31
TIL all of the previous page. GJ on staying clean bro.
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Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 17 April 2012, 08:45:53
Quote from: demik;576772
Holy crap I thought he was joking. Im so sorry dude!!


For real its cool. Thats long in the past and thanks Rag.
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Post by: Zehkul on Tue, 17 April 2012, 18:57:47
Rag, is it possible to bother you with opening up one tsangan kit and dividing the content on 2 orders? We’d save shipping that way. ;P
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Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 17 April 2012, 19:38:29
If I got PMs from both parties acknowledging that to be the desired plan, yes. But only with a couple, I have enough extra keys and things to remember as it is.
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 17 April 2012, 20:00:24
Quote from: Ragnorock;577472
If I got PMs from both parties acknowledging that to be the desired plan, yes. But only with a couple, I have enough extra keys and things to remember as it is.

So I guess having you open mine and send each individual keycap to a random destination and then slowly emailing me clues to their whereabouts over the rest of my life is out of the question...

And I was so looking forward to this. ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 17 April 2012, 22:17:34
Quote from: metafour;577488
So I guess having you open mine and send each individual keycap to a random destination and then slowly emailing me clues to their whereabouts over the rest of my life is out of the question...

And I was so looking forward to this. ;)

wtf :clock:


:becky:
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Post by: mkawa on Tue, 17 April 2012, 22:20:56
jim metaforiarty?
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Post by: metafour on Tue, 17 April 2012, 22:30:27
Builds "character" ???
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Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 18 April 2012, 18:38:09
T.T The keys didn't get here till 1:15. I just finished packing everything, with Lisa helping me non stop. I smell like unwashed gym clothes. Its 4:30 and the post office closes in a half hour. I tried guys, but I'm sorry I didn't make it in time. If I left now I'd get there with 15 mins to do it and this process is going to take about an hour and a half. Everything will ship out tomorrow, I'm heading there first thing in the morning.

Cheers,
Dave


Oh, and the backspace looks fine. ^.^

There were also 3 extra Tsangan kits, so check your orders and if you were missing one I'll get it out to you free of charge. Odds are they just sent extra though, they usually do. Unfortunately it wasn't a spare base set. >.>

If nobody claims them I will send them off with any 104 sets I still have lying around, or offer them for sale if those are gone. Something cheap like $10.
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Post by: demik on Wed, 18 April 2012, 18:40:38
Post office closes at 6, no?

Either way, we already waited 3 extra days we can wait another.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 18 April 2012, 18:44:22
Nah, the one here closes at 5. I would consider going to the one in the grocery store but I am not trusting them with $8,000 worth of merchandise and 115 packages.
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Post by: WorldExclusive on Wed, 18 April 2012, 18:46:12
Quote from: Ragnorock;578352
Nah, the one here closes at 5. I would consider going to the one in the grocery store but I am not trusting them with $8,000 worth of merchandise and 115 packages.


that's smart
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Post by: demik on Wed, 18 April 2012, 18:46:41
Yeah it's already bad enough trusting USPS as it is.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 18 April 2012, 18:58:32
Hmmm I should come and pick mine up, take a picture, and rub it in everyone's faces...
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Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 18 April 2012, 19:02:09
Yea when are you coming to get them?
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 18 April 2012, 19:12:35
I can come get them right now if you are available; I have a 10 page paper due tomorrow and have no desire to work on it.
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Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 18 April 2012, 19:26:55
Yeah, just don't show up in the next 5 mins because I'm hopping in the shower. That whole "lasts 24 hours, or even 48 hours" marketing is bull****.
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Post by: RColinTaylor on Wed, 18 April 2012, 19:34:09
Haha alright; I should be over there around 6.

And by around I mean at exactly six.
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Post by: Oxblood on Wed, 18 April 2012, 19:56:47
Is it too late for me to add a random mod to my order?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 18 April 2012, 21:46:55
Priority from WA? Sweet should be here saturday.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Wed, 18 April 2012, 21:53:21
Quote from: lightsout714;578493
Priority from WA? Sweet should be here saturday.


Yah I hope the post office doesn't screw up and those of us on the west coast can have these sets on our keyboards before next week :).

With the LoL GB people in Hawaii and the east coast got them before me... and Demik, who handled the shipping for it, lives two hours away from me haha.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Wed, 18 April 2012, 22:18:22
For the post office futher mail away will travel by air.  Closer will travel by ground.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Wed, 18 April 2012, 22:25:02
rag did you mail mine out?  If not i'll take one of those moogles for $10 =P
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 18 April 2012, 22:34:17
Quote from: projectD;578526
rag did you mail mine out?  If not i'll take one of those moogles for $10 =P
As tempting as that is I really need to see if they belong to someone else first. Once everyone gets one I will see about selling one to you. Since you'll probably be in on Portal Round 2 it can just ship with that.

How does that sound?

I also have 5 spare good backspace keys, they gave me extras with the fix. :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 18 April 2012, 22:57:04
Any chance it's Taeyoung and the 23 Tsangan kits?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Wed, 18 April 2012, 22:59:42
Quote from: projectD;578526
rag did you mail mine out?  If not i'll take one of those moogles for $10 =P
what is this moogle you speak of
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 18 April 2012, 23:57:27
Quote from: alaricljs;578555
Any chance it's Taeyoung and the 23 Tsangan kits?

I doubt it, I'm pretty good at counting even though I joke about it all the time. I thought about going through some likely candidates but there are too many. If there are any missing I can just cover the shipping.

Pretty sure moogle was supposed to be Tsangan.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 19 April 2012, 03:32:20
I can't believe you'd wait in line at the post office with that many boxes...

Buy some of these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/140735085474) or some variant, I bought like 1000 labels 5 years ago and I've gone through half of those in my online selling shennanigans. Definitely pays for itself when you can just walk down to the post office and dump packages off. Although I think you can talk to them and get some baskets to bring in bulk orders of shipping.

And then get the free priority mail boxes from the post office, then buy and print your own labels with a.) click-n-ship or b.) paypal's shipping service. You don't have to do it per order, you can reach the shipping page here (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now). You actually save money if you do it online vs. at the post office, they give free delivery confirmation on paypal and a small discount.

Then you can print labels and ship 24/7. At least mine is open 24/7 for the most part ( no staff after 6pm or whatever ).

Unless I'm mistaken, you made it sound like you were showing up at the post office with 100+ boxes and paying for all of the shipping there.

Well I guess the other things you need are a small scale (needs to read ounces, you can do 13oz or less first-class packages on paypal. and it's like $1.50-3.00), packaging tape, and a printer. I happened to have all of those I guess.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Thu, 19 April 2012, 07:56:56
Quote from: Ragnorock;578536
As tempting as that is I really need to see if they belong to someone else first. Once everyone gets one I will see about selling one to you. Since you'll probably be in on Portal Round 2 it can just ship with that.

How does that sound?

I also have 5 spare good backspace keys, they gave me extras with the fix. :D


Sounds good.
Side note: new tapatalk UI sucks
Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Thu, 19 April 2012, 07:58:53
Quote from: demik;578557
what is this moogle you speak of

Quote from: Ragnorock;578580
I doubt it, I'm pretty good at counting even though I joke about it all the time. I thought about going through some likely candidates but there are too many. If there are any missing I can just cover the shipping.

Pretty sure moogle was supposed to be Tsangan.

Yeah I meant tsangan. allergies are kicking my ass right now lol

Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 19 April 2012, 10:31:55
Quote from: Blazestorm;578658
I can't believe you'd wait in line at the post office with that many boxes...

Buy some of these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/140735085474) or some variant, I bought like 1000 labels 5 years ago and I've gone through half of those in my online selling shennanigans. Definitely pays for itself when you can just walk down to the post office and dump packages off. Although I think you can talk to them and get some baskets to bring in bulk orders of shipping.

And then get the free priority mail boxes from the post office, then buy and print your own labels with a.) click-n-ship or b.) paypal's shipping service. You don't have to do it per order, you can reach the shipping page here (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now). You actually save money if you do it online vs. at the post office, they give free delivery confirmation on paypal and a small discount.

Then you can print labels and ship 24/7. At least mine is open 24/7 for the most part ( no staff after 6pm or whatever ).

Unless I'm mistaken, you made it sound like you were showing up at the post office with 100+ boxes and paying for all of the shipping there.

Well I guess the other things you need are a small scale (needs to read ounces, you can do 13oz or less first-class packages on paypal. and it's like $1.50-3.00), packaging tape, and a printer. I happened to have all of those I guess.
I have been mulling over switching to this process for a while, but what I have been doing isn't going that bad, even if I do show up with 100+ boxes. You are correct in that I would need to invest in a scale, and a significant number of those labels. I know most other gb organizers use stamps.com, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 19 April 2012, 10:38:12
all you really need is a cheap cooking scale from amazon. you can print on ye olde printer paper and tape the labels down. and like everyone else says, you get a slight discount over in-person prices too.

the really nice thing about this is that you can hand off the packages to your mailman. figure out where he parks the truck on his route by your place and just hand them off when he comes by. i've saved a lot of time this way.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Thu, 19 April 2012, 10:39:50
Quote from: Ragnorock;578866
I have been mulling over switching to this process for a while, but what I have been doing isn't going that bad, even if I do show up with 100+ boxes. You are correct in that I would need to invest in a scale, and a significant number of those labels. I know most other gb organizers use stamps.com, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.

Create a script to do these calculations ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 19 April 2012, 11:16:49
OMG... I can't imagine going to the PO and actually dealing with those people.  I don't ship all that often, but I've been doing it w/ my trusty printer for over 10 years.  For someone like you it'd be super easy to amortize the costs of equipment and supplies.  It used to be a bigger differential, now it's just $.20 for a small flat rate box. Medium is a $.50 difference.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Thu, 19 April 2012, 14:08:31
Quote from: boost;578872
Create a script to do these calculations ;)

I was actually able to get the API's into UPS and Fedex services to do tracking info. If you have an account with them you can just browse their site for developer stuff and they'll give you downloads. I think I could have setup buying/printing labels too. But I was going to write an application to do it faster than some of these web forms. Got bored pretty quick though when some stuff didn't work or compile from their samples and realized I don't ship enough stuff to justify the work.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Thu, 19 April 2012, 14:12:31
Quote from: Blazestorm;579094
I was actually able to get the API's into UPS and Fedex services to do tracking info. If you have an account with them you can just browse their site for developer stuff and they'll give you downloads. I think I could have setup buying/printing labels too. But I was going to write an application to do it faster than some of these web forms. Got bored pretty quick though when some stuff didn't work or compile from their samples and realized I don't ship enough stuff to justify the work.

lol, I got the API key from UPS but this project is just sitting on my desk...Maybe one day I'll do it...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 19 April 2012, 18:52:55
It isn't that bad, but I guess you guys really prefer doing things online as much as possible. Both ways have their merits.

Regardless, everything was just shipped, including insurance on the 2 big orders (Marclgw and Taeyoung.)

Expect packages as soon as Sat, and sometime next week for the rest of the domestics. Internationals is still the typical 10-15 business days, but Furuya didn't get his for 3 months last round. That was first class and not priority like these are though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Thu, 19 April 2012, 19:10:18
Quote from: Ragnorock;579281
It isn't that bad, but I guess you guys really prefer doing things online as much as possible. Both ways have their merits.

Regardless, everything was just shipped, including insurance on the 2 big orders (Marclgw and Taeyoung.)

Expect packages as soon as Sat, and sometime next week for the rest of the domestics. Internationals is still the typical 10-15 business days, but Furuya didn't get his for 3 months last round. That was first class and not priority like these are though.

Looks like most of your work is done :). Congrats!

So what's next for you Rag? I remember reading bits and pieces of a Red Alert set....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 19 April 2012, 19:11:45
Portal round 2, then red alert.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Thu, 19 April 2012, 19:17:20
Quote from: Ragnorock;579287
Portal round 2, then red alert.

Nice! Just wanted to confirm I had actually read that and not imagined it haha.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Thu, 19 April 2012, 19:30:33
Cheers Rag, not much more waiting to go!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 19 April 2012, 19:49:37
I'm excited for this set!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 19 April 2012, 20:24:00
Maybe the packages can make it from Pullman -> Bham overnight. If not, I'm sure by sunday :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Thu, 19 April 2012, 20:55:30
Finally getting my hands on a red and black DS set. :whoo:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 19 April 2012, 21:02:42
If I had enough money to waste it I'd have my groceries delivered.  Hell, if I had that much money I'd order a maid online too.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 19 April 2012, 21:03:27
Quote from: alaricljs;579347
If I had enough money to waste it I'd have my groceries delivered.  Hell, if I had that much money I'd order a maid online too.

preach!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Thu, 19 April 2012, 22:22:56
Ragnorock: Internationals have been sent by Priority Mail?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Thu, 19 April 2012, 22:51:29
time to transfer another $50.00 to Rag for portal2 GB
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 19 April 2012, 22:59:15
Quote from: dewaere;579385
Ragnorock: Internationals have been sent by Priority Mail?

Probably International Priority Mail
https://www.usps.com/ship/priority-mail-international.htm
of the Flate Rate version of the same
https://www.usps.com/ship/priority-mail-international-flat.htm?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 20 April 2012, 01:03:13
Quote from: projectD;579405
time to transfer another $50.00 to Rag for portal2 GB

I set up a script that sends him 60 bucks a month ;).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 20 April 2012, 01:23:54
Wait what? Lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Fri, 20 April 2012, 01:40:37
I keed, I keed.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Mon, 23 April 2012, 10:30:29
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 23 April 2012, 10:31:27
Another site roll back. What a joke this is becoming.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 23 April 2012, 10:40:14
Ugh, what the F*CK. That means I lost all of my PMs from people telling me what they were missing.

EVERYONE THAT SENT ME A PM ABOUT MISSING/DEFECTIVE KEYS PLEASE RESEND.

That doesn't include the missing star keys, nobody got those.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Mon, 23 April 2012, 11:02:04
(http://img.tapatalk.com/40735e1b-7cfb-1208.jpg)

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Mon, 23 April 2012, 11:04:51
Yeah >.< We lost 7 pages of posts.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: boost on Mon, 23 April 2012, 11:10:43
Quote from: mickd;579821
Yeah >.< We lost 7 pages of posts.

Could've been worst. :sly:

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Mon, 23 April 2012, 12:18:03
Default posts per page is weak as hell. Gotta change it to 40 in your settings. This thread is only 36 pages to me :).
What are your guys opinion on the "fixed" backspace key? To me, it looks super out of place given that the arrow keys, arrow on enter, and arrows on tab are all a very similar size, whereas the backspace arrow is tiny. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but that's annoying as hell that SP "fixes" something and still gets it wrong. Aside from that and others missing keys, these caps look damn good and I love the texture of them as well. They really pop under the correct light. Look great on my poker. Wonderful color choice Rag, pat on the back. Also, thanks for running such a tight GB, this was damn painless and quick as hell. Quick TKL gb are the way to go.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 23 April 2012, 12:23:01
Quote from: snowboarder3;579946
Default posts per page is weak as hell. Gotta change it to 40 in your settings. This thread is only 36 pages to me :).

I use PageZipper in Firefox. For me it is only one page. ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Mon, 23 April 2012, 12:27:48
Guess I'll repost the picture of my new keys on my Poker since the last post has disappeared...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QSQ61gHaT70/T5WQ5WqwfTI/AAAAAAAABE8/TUUGivj7bVo/s800/IMG_20120423_130932.jpg)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: alaricljs on Mon, 23 April 2012, 12:29:47
Quote from: Nighted;579952
I use PageZipper in Firefox. For me it is only one page. ;)


So YOU'RE the one that was bogging down GH   ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 23 April 2012, 12:56:16
Quote from: snowboarder3;579946
Default posts per page is weak as hell. Gotta change it to 40 in your settings. This thread is only 36 pages to me :).
What are your guys opinion on the "fixed" backspace key? To me, it looks super out of place given that the arrow keys, arrow on enter, and arrows on tab are all a very similar size, whereas the backspace arrow is tiny. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but that's annoying as hell that SP "fixes" something and still gets it wrong. Aside from that and others missing keys, these caps look damn good and I love the texture of them as well. They really pop under the correct light. Look great on my poker. Wonderful color choice Rag, pat on the back. Also, thanks for running such a tight GB, this was damn painless and quick as hell. Quick TKL gb are the way to go.


I really don't think about it that much. Put it on and haven't looked at the backspace since.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Soulpyre on Mon, 23 April 2012, 13:06:09
Quote from: Ragnorock;579774
Ugh, what the F*CK. That means I lost all of my PMs from people telling me what they were missing.

EVERYONE THAT SENT ME A PM ABOUT MISSING/DEFECTIVE KEYS PLEASE RESEND.

That doesn't include the missing star keys, nobody got those.


PM resent.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 23 April 2012, 13:11:16
@snowboarder, @lightsout I agree with the both of you, the arrow likely could have been better but they had obvious reasons to rush it out. At least now that it is there I just don't notice it. It isn't near as distracting as the original.


Again, I repeat, if anyone is missing keys, I lost your pm in the rollback, please resend. In fact if you have any pms you haven't heard back from, like a leftovers order, resend that too. I think NYC has dibs on the 2nd last 104 set, meaning I only have 1 left pending that selling.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 23 April 2012, 13:14:38
It's ironic, don't ya think?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: IPT on Mon, 23 April 2012, 15:02:44
Quote from: Ragnorock;580019
@snowboarder, @lightsout I agree with the both of you, the arrow likely could have been better but they had obvious reasons to rush it out. At least now that it is there I just don't notice it. It isn't near as distracting as the original.


Again, I repeat, if anyone is missing keys, I lost your pm in the rollback, please resend. In fact if you have any pms you haven't heard back from, like a leftovers order, resend that too. I think NYC has dibs on the 2nd last 104 set, meaning I only have 1 left pending that selling.

i got semi dibs on tsangan kit
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 23 April 2012, 15:04:48
will check my kit for completeness when i get back into town tomorrow
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 23 April 2012, 15:10:51
Quote from: alaricljs;579965
So YOU'RE the one that was bogging down GH   ;)

I wish I could have that kind of notoriety. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Mon, 23 April 2012, 15:16:54
Sending another pm :/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 23 April 2012, 15:34:58
Quote from: Nighted;579952
I use PageZipper in Firefox. For me it is only one page. ;)


Wow, this thing is really cool ... thanks for the tip. :thumb:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:06:21
Got mine today. THey look awesome. Pics don't do it justice very well, it's hard to photograph, but it looks great. I'm running out of keyboards to put all my sets on...I might have to buy a Poker or something...on my black Filco for now.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]48748[/ATTACH]

It's too bad they didn't make the arrow the same size as the Enter key, then it would look right. :|

[ATTACH=CONFIG]48749[/ATTACH]

Oh well, it's not glaringly obvious when you use the "Execute" key instead.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:14:23
Quote from: Ragnorock;580019
@snowboarder, @lightsout I agree with the both of you, the arrow likely could have been better but they had obvious reasons to rush it out. At least now that it is there I just don't notice it. It isn't near as distracting as the original.


Again, I repeat, if anyone is missing keys, I lost your pm in the rollback, please resend. In fact if you have any pms you haven't heard back from, like a leftovers order, resend that too. I think NYC has dibs on the 2nd last 104 set, meaning I only have 1 left pending that selling.

Agreed. Would be nice, but certainly isn't breaking the deal. With execute it's hardly noticeable. These keys pop so nicely, love the red. Nice color choice!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:16:24
Someday mine will arrive...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:28:10
The Backspace arrow is smaller on Cherry keys as well.  Looks fine to me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:39:05
Okay, so got a reply from Melissa, she says sorry to everyone for missing the star keys, and they'll get working on them as soon as they can. They're really backlogged at the moment, and might get them by next friday. As long as I get them and can ship them to you guys by my volunteer trip to Japan on the 9th, we should be good. Until then please inspect your order upon arrival for any missing keys, as I would like to get that email sent sooner rather than later, hopefully by the end of this week. Obviously I expect that there will be another wave of missing keys once the international orders arrive, but I'd like to ask twice at a maximum.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Mon, 23 April 2012, 18:13:54
These fit my poker fine, but I went to put them on my Filco and the shift rubs as well as having the loosest stabalizer slots out there. I fixed it with a file and some tape, but damn SP seriously can't do anything right.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Mon, 23 April 2012, 19:23:39
Happy to report that my set came and all keys made it, in good condition. No issues with sticking or QC. I'd say this turned out to be very successful. Thanks Rag!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Mon, 23 April 2012, 22:34:34
I have two G keys, but otherwise the sets are complete.  Was there some obscure reason for a second G?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Mon, 23 April 2012, 22:35:39
I have two G keys, but otherwise the sets are complete.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 23 April 2012, 22:37:27
Watch, I'll be missing a G.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Mon, 23 April 2012, 23:31:43
Obviously, it is for GG.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: telepete on Tue, 24 April 2012, 01:14:11
Quote from: Nighted;580519
Watch, I'll be missing a G.

Hahaha yesterday I read that someone got an extra page up. I instantly thought "there's my page up". I hope I get those keys in one piece. :[

Sent from my TF101 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 24 April 2012, 01:18:26
my set is complete, and looks oh so good. yay!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 24 April 2012, 02:49:09
repost 2 pictures I posted over the weekend but were lost to rollback.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=48825&d=1335253654)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=48824&d=1335253652)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]48825[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48824[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: turbocharged on Tue, 24 April 2012, 07:30:33
I like the backspace key without the arrow because it matches the "Execute" key that also doesn't have an arrow. Only thing I wish is that the backspace without the arrow was left justified.

Also, I agree with gimpster...pictures don't do these keycaps justice.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: royalsego on Tue, 24 April 2012, 10:33:19
keyscaps didn't look great at home, probably because of the poor lighting(like how a red car looks like a black car at night), so I took these to work, in a brightly lit environment, these look great, i think it'll stay at work :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 24 April 2012, 10:45:05
Ran into the post man today....NOTHIN'! :smow:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: genkigavin on Tue, 24 April 2012, 10:56:35
Quote from: royalsego;580837
keyscaps didn't look great at home, probably because of the poor lighting(like how a red car looks like a black car at night), so I took these to work, in a brightly lit environment, these look great, i think it'll stay at work :)

You could also put some other colors on to make it look more red. =)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]48873[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biochem on Tue, 24 April 2012, 10:59:05
Quote from: royalsego;580837
keyscaps didn't look great at home, probably because of the poor lighting(like how a red car looks like a black car at night), so I took these to work, in a brightly lit environment, these look great, i think it'll stay at work :)

I did the same thing with mine.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: absyrd on Tue, 24 April 2012, 11:27:23
Quote from: litster;580634
repost 2 pictures I posted over the weekend but were lost to rollback.

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That is a thing of beauty. Did you make that case with those colors in anticipation of receiving this set?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 24 April 2012, 15:58:44
I made them for my acrylic case group buy and this was one of the two color combos I made.  The other was white with blue accent.  I sold them all and won't be making any more.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 24 April 2012, 17:19:24
Do those hex key bolts touch your palms at all?

For posterity I'm restating that anyone with missing keys please PM me, especially if your PM was prior to the rollback and you haven't resent.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 24 April 2012, 17:37:24
Quote from: Ragnorock;581119
Do those hex key bolts touch your palms at all?

You mean socket caps...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 24 April 2012, 17:53:49
No, my hands don't touch the socket cap screw heads at all when I am typing.  They are not sharp anyway so even if you do touch them, they feel fine.  I stroke them with my fingers all the time when I stop typing and start thinking. :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 24 April 2012, 18:00:18
Quote from: litster;581152
I stroke them with my fingers all the time when I stop typing and start thinking. :-)

Kinky
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Tue, 24 April 2012, 18:03:00
That litster case is definitely arousing.

Make MOAR!!! You know it's been requested a million times already :).
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Tue, 24 April 2012, 18:07:55
Nipples.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 24 April 2012, 18:21:54
ill sell my litster case for 400 + naming your first child darth vader.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Tue, 24 April 2012, 18:23:54
Quote from: demik;581201
ill sell my litster case for 400 + naming your first child darth vader.

If you have the white litster case I'll consider it :D.

Don't expect to get paid on the latter half for at least a good 10 years from now. It'll be a considerable investment on both ends!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 24 April 2012, 18:26:09
i have the best one.

the black/red!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 24 April 2012, 19:55:44
What?  My white case could fetch $400?  I could make you one if you pay me $400!  LOL!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Tue, 24 April 2012, 20:00:00
Demik never mentioned what currency, so I was thinking of reaching into my SP crap bag and giving him 400 random DS keys as a surprise.

:)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Tue, 24 April 2012, 21:38:00
Quote from: turbocharged;580746
Also, I agree with gimpster...pictures don't do these keycaps justice.


I agree with both of you guys!  These caps look so awesome in person under real light.  Although I'm sure someone with an SLR and a knack for lighting could capture their essence...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Tue, 24 April 2012, 21:45:56
Quote from: Ragnorock;581119
Do those hex key bolts touch your palms at all?

For posterity I'm restating that anyone with missing keys please PM me, especially if your PM was prior to the rollback and you haven't resent.

Did you get my PM? :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 24 April 2012, 22:00:44
Yeah, and I will post a list of all the keys I'm going to ask for for each user before sending it in.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Tue, 24 April 2012, 22:09:05
I have a numpad keyset from this GB for sale. If anyone is interested PM me. Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Tue, 24 April 2012, 22:41:26
My two sets arrived complete.  CM Storm and Rosewill are rocking them at the moment.

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Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Blazestorm on Wed, 25 April 2012, 00:11:40
Would match the storm almost perfectly if the CM part of the logo was black/dark gray.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 25 April 2012, 08:30:55
Quote from: Blazestorm;581470
Would match the storm almost perfectly if the CM part of the logo was black/dark gray.

Still looks pretty perfect to me. Mine looks like it came like this from the factory.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: biolaser on Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:16:30
Just checked over the keys.. two sets plus addons all complete (besides the star keys)! Thanks Rag!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Wed, 25 April 2012, 10:50:12
Quote from: lightsout714;581702
Still looks pretty perfect to me. Mine looks like it came like this from the factory.

Agree.  They look pretty nice on the Rosewill too, due to the red backplate.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Wed, 25 April 2012, 10:51:55
All these complete sets make me sad....

^sup chitown
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Thu, 26 April 2012, 05:08:11
Here is mine. :)
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Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: prava on Thu, 26 April 2012, 07:49:30
Got my ragnarok keyset just toda, I'm surprised how fast USPS can be sometimes!

Thanks ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Thu, 26 April 2012, 08:25:47
Arrived in Korea? Awesome! Will be checking my mail tentatively every day now!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Thu, 26 April 2012, 10:25:43
It can get to Korea faster than Ontario? WTF USPS/Canada Post?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Thu, 26 April 2012, 10:34:53
Quote from: Nighted;582741
It can get to Korea faster than Ontario? WTF USPS/Canada Post?
Maybe, that's because I used a little bit expensive shipping method. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: prava on Thu, 26 April 2012, 10:47:13
Picture:

(http://i.imgur.com/MKqTD.jpg)

PS: the white W is there for comparison purposes. Cherry DS vs SP DS (the black colour is kinda different).

PSS: next time we should aim for a thicker font, if possible.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 10:54:57
Quote from: Nighted;582741
It can get to Korea faster than Ontario? WTF USPS/Canada Post?

Don't know about you, but I got mine today..

(http://img.tapatalk.com/cfa44f54-71e4-124c.jpg)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Thu, 26 April 2012, 10:58:31
Quote from: elton5354;582765
Don't know about you, but I got mine today..

Nope, not today. Maybe tomorrow but I think the mail man takes Fridays off to go drink. Got a new Poker to pick up later. Was hoping to put these on it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 26 April 2012, 11:18:51
Quote from: Taeyoung;582745
Maybe, that's because I used a little bit expensive shipping method. :)
Just want to double check you read about the star keys, since you bought 23 of those sets. I'll send a supplementary package as soon as I get them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 26 April 2012, 11:21:04
loving my keys. is there anyway we can defray the cost of shipping the stars?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 26 April 2012, 11:38:00
I wouldn't worry about it, since I'm planning on using some of that excess donations I received from Game Theory and Phil21, who between them almost contributed the whole sorting fee themselves ($271,) so just thank them!

If you really feel bad, the cost to ship domestic, not including the envelopes etc is about $2, international ~$3.75. You all should have my paypal on file by now right? Lol.

Anyone else missing keys let me know, I've got a list going, and it looks like Litster got Soulpyre's ~ key. XD
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Oxblood on Thu, 26 April 2012, 15:32:03
Keys look great.  Once I get time to dremil out the ports for my Duckyj caps lock etc. I'll post pick.

P.S. The SCRandom key looks great as my function.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:05:08
Rag, you sent my tsangan set to tennobanzai since we grouped our order. For the star keys, can you have it sent to me instead?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:33:34
Yeah, just make sure to remind me with a PM when they get here.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 April 2012, 18:06:44
Will do
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 18:09:32
Quote from: prava;582754
Picture:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MKqTD.jpg)


PS: the white W is there for comparison purposes. Cherry DS vs SP DS (the black colour is kinda different).

PSS: next time we should aim for a thicker font, if possible.

I totally agree. I also compared them top some black cherrys and it made the font look really wimpy. Would help with the contrast imo.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 April 2012, 18:12:05
The words are wimpy. The single letters are fine.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Thu, 26 April 2012, 18:48:12
Once we have Cherry legends, this will all be moot.  Pretty hard to mess up weight/kerning/position/etc when they are handed an SVG on a silver platter.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:06:28
Quote from: rknize;583242
Once we have Cherry legends, this will all be moot.  Pretty hard to mess up weight/kerning/position/etc when they are handed an SVG on a silver platter.


Are we talking about the same Signature Plastics? I don't think anything is too simple for them to mess up.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:07:31
Quote from: rknize;583242
Once we have Cherry legends, this will all be moot.  Pretty hard to mess up weight/kerning/position/etc when they are handed an SVG on a silver platter.

have you missed ripster's ranting about his awesome face keys?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: sth on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:10:24
Quote from: demik;583269
have you missed ripster's ranting about his awesome face keys?
You'd have to be dead.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:11:30
Quote from: demik;583203
The words are wimpy. The single letters are fine.

Without proper lighting it can be hard to see the letters on these.

I know learn to touch type blah blah :lalala:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:14:43
Quote from: lightsout714;583275
Without proper lighting it can be hard to see the letters on these.

I know learn to touch type blah blah :lalala:

really? i seen them perfectly fine.

it's the words (especially shift) that are way too thin.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:18:36
I think thicker letters all around would help contrast the colors, but yes, especially on the keys with wording.

I don't have a problem seeing the letters under light, but the letters look much more pink to me than red under certain lighting.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:29:13
To everyone complaining about bolder fonts, it isn't near as clean and looks dated, which many, myself included, really hate. They look perfect imo.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:33:28
I am still waiting for my set, but I can't wait to actually be able to make up my own mind about this. Tired of so many complaints here tainting my view of this lovely looking set ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: fstop on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:49:00
Complaints is a pretty negative way of putting it, I think its more constructive criticism. I have my set and really like it. The whole group buy went really well in delivering what we wanted, despite a few minor set backs. That doesn't mean its perfect to all of us though.

What font was used for this GB? Was it wyse? I'm not familiar with SP fonts but I'm curious if this is the same one that will be used for the cream cheese GB so I know what to expect.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:53:53
Quote from: fstop;583309
Complaints is a pretty negative way of putting it, I think its more constructive criticism. I have my set and really like it. The whole group buy went really well in delivering what we wanted, despite a few minor set backs. That doesn't mean its perfect to all of us though.

What font was used for this GB? Was it wyse? I'm not familiar with SP fonts but I'm curious if this is the same one that will be used for the cream cheese GB so I know what to expect.

Yes to both.  SP's font selection is pretty limited, and unless I'm mistaken we can't just request "bolder" without paying for entirely new legends.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:14:08
Correct, it was WYSE, and they don't have many fonts to choose from, as custom legends are very expensive. The cherry font "adopt a key" fundraiser is supposed to give everyone that bolder font, but it is really expensive to do.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:35:01
Quote from: demik;583279
really? i seen them perfectly fine.

it's the words (especially shift) that are way too thin.


Yeah, I was hoping that some of the legends would be the same as those used in hashbaz's RGBY group buy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:38:12
Quote from: metafour;583345
Yeah, I was hoping that some of the legends would be the same as those used in hashbaz's RGBY group buy.

That...

Quote from: Ragnorock;583332
The cherry font "adopt a key" fundraiser is supposed to give everyone that bolder font, but it is really expensive to do.

...is this project
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:46:49
Quote from: Ragnorock;583290
To everyone complaining about bolder fonts, it isn't near as clean and looks dated, which many, myself included, really hate. They look perfect imo.

Not complaining just stating my opinion. And for me it gets no cleaner that OG cherry. Which many love around here. No worries though. I'm not knocking you dude. Just having a discussion.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:53:31
Quote from: hashbaz;583350
That...



...is this project

Nah I just meant the modifiers like demik mentioned. The Shift is a little thin and the arrow is pretty thin compared to the RGBY sets.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:55:42
Quote from: metafour;583368
Nah I just meant the modifiers like demik mentioned. The Shift is a little thin and the arrow is pretty thin compared to the RGBY sets.

because those are custom legends, not wyse legends.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:59:31
Quote from: metafour;583368
Nah I just meant the modifiers like demik mentioned. The Shift is a little thin and the arrow is pretty thin compared to the RGBY sets.

Yup.  The RGBY legends are part of the Cherry legend project.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Thu, 26 April 2012, 21:04:47
Yeah I thought so but I thought you were saying something else. Would it have cost extra to use those Cherry legends on just the modifiers since the rest was the WYSE font though?

I'm just saying that it seems the legends were already done and paid for since they were used in the earlier RGBY group buy. Were they not used because it would have cost extra or for aesthetic reasons? Not a big deal or anything, I'm just curious.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 26 April 2012, 21:10:33
Nobody suggested it, otherwise I may have done that. I wanted to keep it simple though, and the text is the same size across the board, meaning its the same on the home, end, etc keys as it is on the large modifiers.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Thu, 26 April 2012, 21:13:18
Yeah, with only those few modifiers being of different width I figured it was, at a minimum, an aesthetic choice.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 26 April 2012, 21:17:56
The Cherry modifiers wouldn't match the WYSE font well.  And at present we only have Ctrl/Alt/Shift, Caps Lock, and Escape done.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Taeyoung on Fri, 27 April 2012, 00:42:10
Quote from: Ragnorock;582787
Just want to double check you read about the star keys, since you bought 23 of those sets. I'll send a supplementary package as soon as I get them.

Yeah, I've already read about the star keys.
And I can happily wait for the supplementary package. :)
Thanks Ragnarok!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaen on Sat, 28 April 2012, 07:58:24
Thank you raggy, stellar GB all-round, keys are fantastic!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]49364[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]49365[/ATTACH]
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Sat, 28 April 2012, 09:48:34
Quote from: Blazestorm;581470
Would match the storm almost perfectly if the CM part of the logo was black/dark gray.

Ever heard of a SHARPIE?  ;-)



Wabi-sabi: Nothing is perfect. Nothing is ever finished. Nothing lasts forever.


Ragnorock rocked this GB!  :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WorldExclusive on Sat, 28 April 2012, 14:24:12
(http://i.imgur.com/nP0aT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/alb0B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BGTVa.jpg)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mafioso on Sat, 28 April 2012, 17:37:49
Hey, my stuff has come Ragnarok and I'm delighted with everything except the fact that on my number pad set I have 2 5s and no 2. :( Anything I can do to sort that? I'll pay for posting if you have the missing 2. Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 28 April 2012, 18:12:53
Added you to my list of people missing keys. That missing key is from the 104 set correct? I will ship the missing keys out when I get them.

Cheers,
Dave
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 28 April 2012, 23:54:36
Quote from: WorldExclusive;584963
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nP0aT.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/alb0B.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BGTVa.jpg)

I really like how the Windows 8 key turned out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Mafioso on Sun, 29 April 2012, 04:41:49
@Ragnarok
Yeah, the 104 set. It's the 2 key from the number pad so will have an arrow on. Cheers man ^^
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Mon, 30 April 2012, 05:31:45
Both my sets came with no missing keys! Thanks Rag! Leaving feedback!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Mon, 30 April 2012, 05:39:08
Where in Sydney are you? Why didn't mine come? :(

Did you have to sign for it?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Mon, 30 April 2012, 06:03:57
Near Liverpool/Fairfield. Nope. I'm not sure if anyone else at home signed for it since I was at uni. Just came home and it was sitting in my room.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Mon, 30 April 2012, 07:17:51
Well hopefully tomorrow, though if you have to sign I won't get them until Wednesday...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Mon, 30 April 2012, 09:17:57
Woot least they're in Aus, hopefully they get to Perth this week.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Mon, 30 April 2012, 09:39:33
@Rag -- Any updates on the missing keys?  It's really starting to drive me nuts =/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: MMB on Mon, 30 April 2012, 10:53:47
I totally missed out on this. If anyone has an extra set they would like to part with, pm me. Thanks! :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Nighted on Mon, 30 April 2012, 11:09:39
Got mine. The set is complete. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 30 April 2012, 11:12:41
Quote from: DanGWanG;586266
@Rag -- Any updates on the missing keys?  It's really starting to drive me nuts =/

I'm putting the request in today or tomorrow, and they'll likely get in with the star keys. I'm trying to get them here at the same time as those while having as many orders arrive as possible.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Mon, 30 April 2012, 11:20:37
I hope I won’t miss any keys, lol. I have a feeling round 4 will be over until I get them. :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:10:45
International shipping is always hit and miss. Sometimes its there in a week, sometimes its there in 2 months, but with very few exceptions, it has always gotten there. I didn't have a single lost package in Nyancat.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:37:25
Have there been any issues with the TKL sets so far? Or have the issues been mostly/only with the 104 sets? I am currently waiting for one of both, so I won't be able to check if I have anything missing just yet. Do you have a deadline for when missing keys should be reported?
Oh, and in case you are wondering, I got the 104 set from net2522, that's why I now have two sets coming to me xD.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:42:31
Considering they shipped out 15,000 keys, and there have only been 13 missing keys thus far, between 8 people, I would say no. Only 1 key so far has been from a 104 set. Most of them were from the Fn row or ~ keys.

I'm probably going to send in the request tomorrow or wednesday, but if there does happen to be any more orders that are missing keys I will do my best to get a second round sent out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:44:23
Sorry, I didn't read above post.

Thanks
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:45:21
Oh ok. For some strange reason I had gotten it in my head that there were huge issues with missing keys. Must have mixed that up with the star keys missing.
Thanks for clearing that up. I am so excited to get my set. First double shot set for me ever, so I can't wait.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:48:45
^:fish:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 30 April 2012, 12:48:49
I didn't check any sets for missing keys, it is up to the buyer to report them as always. Even with just the 12 leftover sets I was selling, which most were packed and shipped with the original orders, I would have had to spend hours sorting through them to check for completion, but I didn't have the time as you may recall.

Glissant if you have any problems with Net2522's set or your own then let me know and I'll get replacements for either of your sets. I doubt it will be an issue, but you will likely be after I put in the request anyways.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gridlock on Mon, 30 April 2012, 20:32:44
I totally forgot about these until I got them in the mail. They look good and feel great. Money well spent. Thank you!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Mon, 30 April 2012, 21:17:13
[ATTACH=CONFIG]49566[/ATTACH]

Thanks Rag, the keys arrived in great shape! I have the complete keys except for those star keys ofc. :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 30 April 2012, 21:20:26
thats a good looking cheat!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Mon, 30 April 2012, 22:12:09
Aww I'm jealous of that stepped capslock.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Tue, 01 May 2012, 03:40:35
Received today without having to sign for them. :D Really happy, they look great, no missing keys, no immediate issues with any legends, my arrowless backspace even has a straight 's'. Actually there is one missing key, the Triforce escape you were going throw in with, I imagine you threw it in with someone elses package, lol. Really not concerned about that one though.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]49594[/ATTACH]
Excuse the quality. Was hoping to get a little more bleed for a christmassy effect but whatever, they're fine without it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Tue, 01 May 2012, 05:26:25
Awesome, they look great ;)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: kaen on Tue, 01 May 2012, 06:24:44
Quote from: All The Fire;587108
Actually there is one missing key, the Triforce escape you were going throw in with, I imagine you threw it in with someone elses package, lol. Really not concerned about that one though.

Sorry to get your hopes up mate, I bought that from raggy separately and he chucked it in with my order :)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Tue, 01 May 2012, 07:09:26
Yeah I actually bought one separate as well, after he suggested he could throw them in with no extra shipping. Guess we'll see if anyone gets one by mistake, or if you just forgot Rag, I'll be joinging the Portal 2 group buy.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 01 May 2012, 10:29:58
Sorry about that, I must have missed it. Ill send you one along with the other missing keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: All The Fire on Tue, 01 May 2012, 14:43:30
If your happy to do that, but it could wait until the Portal 2 group buy, save you on shipping.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: korne on Tue, 01 May 2012, 18:45:18
keycaps recived they are awesome!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Tue, 01 May 2012, 18:57:09
argh! I think someone at CDN customs thought they needed new keycaps! since mine are not here yet!

anyone in Canada get theirs yet?

guess I'm just impatient, but my Leopold here is waiting... begging me in my sleep for new keycaps :Cry:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: MrPhil on Wed, 02 May 2012, 01:53:11
Got mine, they're awesome!!! Thanks!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: popol on Wed, 02 May 2012, 03:58:20
received on friday. awesome! thanks
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 02 May 2012, 09:20:24
I got my 87-key set today. It looks amazing. I did have to sand down my left shift key so it wouldn't rub up against my filco case, but that's not a huge deal. The spacebar is at a very sharp angle, but that's not something that will annoy me too much.
No missing keys!

Am I crazy for thinking typing on doubleshots feel more solid? Suddenly I find it easier to not bottom out.

Well now I have a bunch of keycaps I will never use again xD. These are simply awesome.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Djuzuh on Wed, 02 May 2012, 09:24:42
Quote from: Glissant;588079

Am I crazy for thinking typing on doubleshots feel more solid? Suddenly I find it easier to not bottom out.


It's maybe because they are not as high? SP keycaps have another profile.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Wraul on Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:13:18
Keys have arrived. Everything is there except the stars, which you can include with my Portal purchase.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 02 May 2012, 12:48:56
My keys arrived today. Everythings there except for the star keys (I guess you gave 3 of the other 1x mods to zehkul). They look really great on my blue Filco, I can't wait to see them on my G80, but I have too much to do at the moment to make the full mod of the G80 (ergo clears, o-rings and key caps)... that has to wait a bit :-(

What should we do about the missing keys? I don't think they are really worth the shipping to germany... since I bought the Tsangan-Kits only for the stepped capslock.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 02 May 2012, 14:29:32
Received mine, too! The box was quite full with 2 sets + extras, don’t think you can fit much more in it.

Everything is complete and looking great! Except for the missing star keys, of course. Well, I can always use some additional 1unit r4 keys. :P

(http://s7.directupload.net/images/120502/wdvg94ci.jpg)

Now waiting for Round4. :D
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Wed, 02 May 2012, 14:50:01
Looks like I complained a day too soon!

mine just came! thanks Rag!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]49691[/ATTACH]

awful pic, but couldn't get the lighting right, but you get the general idea.

everything seems to be here except the missing star keys.

Looks good on my Leopold and thanks for a great first Group buy experience!

I'll prob sell my Tsangan kit now, seeing as how good it looks on my Leopold. Will wait for the star keys for it to be complete though.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Wed, 02 May 2012, 15:51:32
Quote from: Jesterfox;588247
My keys arrived today. Everythings there except for the star keys (I guess you gave 3 of the other 1x mods to zehkul). They look really great on my blue Filco, I can't wait to see them on my G80, but I have too much to do at the moment to make the full mod of the G80 (ergo clears, o-rings and key caps)... that has to wait a bit :-(

What should we do about the missing keys? I don't think they are really worth the shipping to germany... since I bought the Tsangan-Kits only for the stepped capslock.
If anyone, including yourself, don't want me to send you the star keys, I would love to hear, since it saves me the cost of shipping. I do know there are several out there that just bought it for the stepped caps, but as it is part of what everyone expected, I just assumed everyone wanted them.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Jesterfox on Wed, 02 May 2012, 16:04:47
As it looks my star keys will go to Zehkul ;-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Zehkul on Wed, 02 May 2012, 16:25:04
Thanks. :D:D

I really love this set. Should have thick and bubbly Cherry legends and it would be perfect. (More contrast, the thick win logo almost looks like red backlight) Could be done again when they’re ready, but the keyboard world is flooded with red on black keys now so it’ll take some time. And I don’t have money to buy another one anyway, lol.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: HWI on Wed, 02 May 2012, 20:28:43
Just got back into town yesterday and was delighted to see these on my doorstep.

(http://i.imgur.com/IGxLb.jpg)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jonnybastard on Fri, 04 May 2012, 00:18:50
Got back from lunch just now to find my sets sitting on my desk, yayyyyy!!~
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:50:07
Just checking up on the missing keys =)

Anyone willing to part with a few of their F-keys? (or the whole row)  My OCD is destroying me with these missing keys....
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: metafour on Sat, 12 May 2012, 01:24:41
Quote from: DanGWanG;590401
Anyone willing to part with a few of their F-keys? (or the whole row)  My OCD is destroying me with these missing keys....

Permanently or temporarily?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 12 May 2012, 07:21:26
Quote from: DanGWanG;590401
Just checking up on the missing keys =)

Anyone willing to part with a few of their F-keys? (or the whole row)  My OCD is destroying me with these missing keys....

Shippin em when I get back.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: net2522 on Sun, 13 May 2012, 18:36:42
^When you'll be starting the Red Alert group buy?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 13 May 2012, 18:41:41
Quote from: net2522;591943
^When you'll be starting the Red Alert group buy?

Word...this is what I want to know.  Red alert por favor.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jinhan108 on Sun, 13 May 2012, 23:06:45
Another Geekhack forum rollover? My PM to Rag regarding the missing '5' key on the 104 addon kit (numpad) does not show in my inbox anymore:S
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 14 May 2012, 03:09:43
^Doesn't matter, its in my text document. I think I'm going to run simultaneous group buys for the Red Alert Set and the Biohazard/Portal group buy when I get back from Japan. Just give me a few days asfter to get everything remaining from this gb sorted and finish some super top secret .svgs.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: jil_jil32 on Mon, 14 May 2012, 03:37:55
RED ALERT!!! BIOHAZARD!!!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Thu, 17 May 2012, 03:43:42
Rag, will u be replacing my two 'P's? Just wondering since my post is gone due to rollback. :(
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 17 May 2012, 03:50:06
You had 2 that were bad? I only ever heard you say 1, but yeah I've got it on my list unless you changed your mind for real. You mentioned it not being a big deal in the thread after everyone was just like "Thats how it is."

Regardless, I don't mind sending you keys to have a happy customer. Lmk.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Thu, 17 May 2012, 03:56:23
Quote

You had 2 that were bad? I only ever heard you say 1, but yeah I've got it on my list unless you changed your mind for real. You mentioned it not being a big deal in the thread after everyone was just like "Thats how it is."

Regardless, I don't mind sending you keys to have a happy customer. Lmk.


Well yes, I would definitely be happy if you could replace them and send them with the star keys.
And btw, I might be getting another set (Rag+tsangan add on) from someone.. and that can possibly make it 3 star key sets.
I'll PM you if that happens. Thanks Rag~
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 17 May 2012, 04:07:51
Got it, please do. I will be sending a PM notification to each person getting Tsangan kits when they are about to ship, to make sure I'm sending them to the right place/whether they even want them. If I do have extras I will be selling them off for very cheap, like $3 or something.

Speaking of that, I do have spare backspace with arrow keys, if anyone is interested. I have like 5.

Those keys are probably best off purchased or sent with other keys, since shipping isn't worth it for so little.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 29 May 2012, 19:32:49
Any update on the replacement keys?  Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 29 May 2012, 19:38:09
She's shipping them out tomorrow, with the star keys. Apparently because USPS updated their website, they lost my apartment number and the star keys got returned to her. They should be here Friday, and I will be shipping them out Friday or Saturday.

Thanks for reminding me, I forgot to announce that with all the other organizing I'm doing today.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:03:24
you also have my missing ~ key?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:21:53
I thought you sent that to Soulpyre, as you said you had an extra one. For you specifically, I only have you as missing 1 1! key.

Since she's shipping them out tomorrow, let me know and I'll have her add that one too if you need it.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:33:46
yes, I confused myself.  I am missing a 1! key.  I had 2 ~` keys and sent one to Soulpyre.  Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:35:23
S'all good. They should be shipping out by the end of the week.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:36:16
shall i send u a PM reminder to send my tsangan keys to me and not tennobanzai?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:41:19
Nope, I've got it in the list. Hell, here's the text document, complete with formatting.

Quote
Ovoxo


1 F5 key


LItster


1 1! key


Captain


1 Backspace key (his wasn't blackenough)
Bought 2 triforce keys to go with it.


DanGWanG- Check address beforeshipping



1 Esc
1 F1
1 F4
1 F5
1 F6
1 F7


Mafioso


1 2 from 104 set.


Marclgw


1 Win 8
1 ;:
1 `~


Tsangan Ship mkawa's star keys tohim
1 2@
1 3#


jinhan108
1 5 from 104 key add on

Demik Gets Tennobanzai's star keys


Soulfree914


2 P
Bought another Tsangan set, so he gets6 star keys


Tubby
1 W
1 T
1 Y
1 U


Ragnorock
1 Y
1 E
1 O

Anyone else who sold their sets after getting them and needs me to send the star keys to someone other than who originally ordered them please let me know.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Tue, 29 May 2012, 20:46:04
sweet. thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Oxblood on Fri, 01 June 2012, 17:28:53
Now all I need is for you to do a reversed set so I can get my ESDF and number keys in Black on Red.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Fri, 01 June 2012, 21:06:22
That list makes things very clear. Nice work Rag! I'll be waiting for those 2 P keys and 6 star keys. :-)
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 01 June 2012, 21:12:56
Just got the keycaps, going to be sorting them all tonight and shipping them out tomorrow.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: mickd on Sat, 02 June 2012, 13:40:05
I really do like Rag's speed when it comes to things like this :) Not that I have any star keys coming though, but still!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Sat, 02 June 2012, 14:00:29
Hey Rag, I'm not in a hurry to get my star keys, so if you want to hold off and just ship them with Portal / RA that would be fine by me!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 02 June 2012, 14:27:04
Gah, you and Zehkul and your patience! Making things all complicated and shiz.

I'll remember for today, but you guys better pm me around when portal/RA ships to remind me to include them. >.>
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Sat, 02 June 2012, 14:29:31
lol, just tryin to save you a couple bucks!  NP, I'll remember to remind you come portal/RA shipping time.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 02 June 2012, 14:33:51
My star keys are also missing besides the 2@ and 3# but I'm sure you knew that already, that list is just for keys besides the stars right
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 02 June 2012, 14:41:21
Yes. I just finished packing your envelope lol. Here's where I wish your kit wasn't so popular because I'm stuck packing half the orders from the whole group buy again!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 02 June 2012, 14:44:12
Quote from: Ragnorock;606288
Yes. I just finished packing your envelope lol. Here's where I wish your kit wasn't so popular because I'm stuck packing half the orders from the whole group buy again!

Wasn't my fault, lit made everyone buy it, and now people want it for their winkeyless keyboards :rofl:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: xJaPx on Sun, 03 June 2012, 01:37:14
If anyone wants to sell their tenkey , let me know

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 07 June 2012, 18:27:17
Okay so I've shipped out all of the replacement keys, including all of the stars. They should be arriving around now for everyone in the US, and on their way for internationals. They shipped out Monday if anyone is curious.

Also, it looks like Litster was short 2 star keys in his order, so if anyone is willing to part with theirs or received extras that they weren't supposed to, then please let me know and I'd love to get him those keys. I'm willing to compensate you within reason for the keys if they are a part of your kit (and not received in error) and pay for your shipping to him.

Cheers,
Dave
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: rknize on Thu, 07 June 2012, 19:40:55
Got my stars.  They are starry.  Well done.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Fri, 08 June 2012, 02:56:43
Quote from: Ragnorock;609444
Okay so I've shipped out all of the replacement keys, including all of the stars. They should be arriving around now for everyone in the US, and on their way for internationals. They shipped out Monday if anyone is curious.

Also, it looks like Litster was short 2 star keys in his order, so if anyone is willing to part with theirs or received extras that they weren't supposed to, then please let me know and I'd love to get him those keys. I'm willing to compensate you within reason for the keys if they are a part of your kit (and not received in error) and pay for your shipping to him.

Cheers,
Dave

Thanks Ragnorock.  If you received 2 extra star keys, please let Rag and I know.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Game Theory on Fri, 08 June 2012, 17:58:02
Litster, if no one finds the extras I can mail you my two.  I can stomach Windows keys on my Linux keyboard:)  Just send me a PM with your address.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Lukasevic on Fri, 08 June 2012, 20:22:00
I am about to pick up a used Rag 104 set myself, if anyone else wants to sell/trade their stars after Litster gets his. It would be highly appreciated! Thank you :hug:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: gimpster on Sat, 09 June 2012, 09:59:52
Quote from: litster;609646
Thanks Ragnorock.  If you received 2 extra star keys, please let Rag and I know.

Man, you're having a rough time with the group buys lately, litster. Hope your luck turns around.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Sat, 09 June 2012, 20:24:44
Quote from: Game Theory;610005
Litster, if no one finds the extras I can mail you my two.  I can stomach Windows keys on my Linux keyboard:)  Just send me a PM with your address.

Thanks, Game Theory.  I may take you up on your offer.  According to Rag, he thinks he might have sent my 2 star keys to someone else.  If anyone received my star keys, please let me know.  Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Mon, 11 June 2012, 20:04:43
Rag, did you hear back from anyone who has my 2 star keys?  I don't want to take Game Theory's keys as they are his star keys, not mine.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 11 June 2012, 20:08:44
Not yet, I figured more people would post in the thread when they got them, but they haven't. I've yet to get someone offering their keys up as unnecessary though, since I know several have stated that they didn't need the whole kit.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: soulfree914 on Thu, 14 June 2012, 02:48:33
This is how my package arrived: :sad:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]52876[/ATTACH]

Two star keys and one 'P' damaged.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Thu, 14 June 2012, 08:39:15
Received mine as well, still waiting for their 104 friends :pout:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Thu, 14 June 2012, 10:00:35
Quote from: soulfree914;613179
This is how my package arrived: :sad:

(Attachment) 52876[/ATTACH]

Two star keys and one 'P' damaged.

Ouch... =/
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Typhaeon on Thu, 14 June 2012, 10:50:06
Boy, do I regret missing out on this one.  I've been tempted to order the Red Alert set, but it just isn't the same.

Hope we'll see another round of this someday!
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Thu, 14 June 2012, 13:07:53
just got my missing star keys. everything looks fine.

thanks again Rag.

I will be posting the whole tsangan kit in the classified a bit later

But if anyone wants it before I make a thread PM me.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 14 June 2012, 13:35:37
Quote from: Ahlitah;613475
just got my missing star keys. everything looks fine.

thanks again Rag.

I will be posting the whole tsangan kit in the classified a bit later

But if anyone wants it before I make a thread PM me.
If you're willing to separate the star keys from it I'd be willing to buy them and have you ship them to one of the guys who is missing them. Looks like I need 4 now to cover missing/damaged ones.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Thu, 14 June 2012, 13:48:18
Quote from: Ragnorock;613491
If you're willing to separate the star keys from it I'd be willing to buy them and have you ship them to one of the guys who is missing them. Looks like I need 4 now to cover missing/damaged ones.

I would, if someone else would buy the other keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 14 June 2012, 13:52:05
Quote from: dewaere;613270
Received mine as well, still waiting for their 104 friends :pout:
The 104 kit I'm assuming you picked up from somewhere else?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Thu, 14 June 2012, 14:47:04
Quote from: Ragnorock;613505
The 104 kit I'm assuming you picked up from somewhere else?

No, the one from you I didn't receive (yet).
We already talked in pm a month ago, I'm still waiting but with almost no hope  :wacko:
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Thu, 14 June 2012, 14:57:26
Oh sorry I forgot, way too many things going on right now. Well its been another month. If you want a refund send me a PM. Obviously if you get them after its on your honor to send it back but 2 months is the longest I make people wait.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: dewaere on Thu, 14 June 2012, 15:05:52
Actually, I'd prefer switch to your Red Alert GB (if it's not too late) rather than a refund.
I'll pm you.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 19 June 2012, 14:08:40
Quote from: Ragnorock;613491
If you're willing to separate the star keys from it I'd be willing to buy them and have you ship them to one of the guys who is missing them. Looks like I need 4 now to cover missing/damaged ones.


Ping again.  Any news on my star keys?  Thanks.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 19 June 2012, 15:29:42
Requested some more from SP and they aren't able to make any more unless I pay another $45 for cutting or something like that. They had a P key for Soulfree but that's it. I'm still looking for someone to offer theirs up. If you post up a WTB thread for the star keys and someone is willing to sell them at a reasonable price I'll pay for them for you. That's the best I can do.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 19 June 2012, 15:34:15
So didja told SP not to let anyone use his legend because he owns the star legend?  

Ragnorock, do you have any other 1x front row caps I can have?  I don't want to be missing 2 keycaps...  I need them for my Phantoms.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 19 June 2012, 15:38:10
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Hey Melissa, I had one guy whose replacement keys were damaged in shipment. 4 star keys and a P key were crushed by something really heavy. I was wondering how much it would set me back to get those from you since I know it is no fault of yours etc. I just want the guy to get his keys/good customer service etc. I can try and source the star keys from other buyers of the kit that may not need them, but the P key in particular is going to be pretty impossible to find.

Let me know what you think,

Dave

Note I said 4 even though only 2 of his were damaged. The other two were meant for you.

The response:
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David-
I unfortunately only have an extra P keycap - I have zero of the star keycap in stock. Would you want me to send this to you? Shipping would be: $4.07 with tax...

I assume we can have more made its just going to cost me whatever it would cost to get ____ made of them. Basically back to the quantity discount tiers for a 1x key. I guess I was thinking of the wrong thing with the legend fee.

No I don't have any 1x keys for the modifier row. Again the best option is to find someone with a Tsangan kit who is willing to part it out.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: WRXChris on Tue, 19 June 2012, 15:45:26
Quote from: litster;617188
So didja told SP not to let anyone use his legend because he owns the star legend?

That makes me kinda sad.  Such a petty issue taken way too seriously.  I, personally, would be flattered if people wanted to use my generic legend that cost a negligible amount of money.  Chip on the shoulder, I suppose.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 19 June 2012, 15:48:18
Quote from: Ragnorock;617190
Note I said 4 even though only 2 of his were damaged. The other two were meant for you.

The response:


I assume we can have more made its just going to cost me whatever it would cost to get ____ made of them. Basically back to the quantity discount tiers for a 1x key. I guess I was thinking of the wrong thing with the legend fee.

No I don't have any 1x keys for the modifier row. Again the best option is to find someone with a Tsangan kit who is willing to part it out.


Where does the $45 fee come from?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 19 June 2012, 21:06:33
It doesn't. Though it would cost like $60 per key if there we only make 2.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Thu, 21 June 2012, 23:00:00
Rag, please just refund me for the missing keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Fri, 22 June 2012, 01:26:51
Are you sure? I've been PMing people looking for some, but everyone is using them.

Again everyone, if anyone has star keys they aren't using I'll pay for them and the shipping to get them to Litster. Last thing I want is anyone with incomplete sets. A refund is insufficient for the loss in utility from missing keys.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ahlitah on Fri, 22 June 2012, 09:01:51
I've said before, I'm willing to sell my star keys as long as I have another buyer for the rest of that kit.

trying to sell an incomplete tsang kit won't work very well.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 22 June 2012, 09:04:28
Quote from: Ahlitah;619412
I've said before, I'm willing to sell my star keys as long as I have another buyer for the rest of that kit.

trying to sell an incomplete tsang kit won't work very well.

Not necessarily incomplete because you have the diamond keys still
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Mon, 25 June 2012, 19:19:25
Rag, where is my twinkle twinkle little star keys...
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 June 2012, 19:26:06
Quote from: DanGWanG;619414
Not necessarily incomplete because you have the diamond keys still

No, it's incomplete.
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 25 June 2012, 20:24:45
Quote from: Ahlitah;619412
I've said before, I'm willing to sell my star keys as long as I have another buyer for the rest of that kit.

trying to sell an incomplete tsang kit won't work very well.
How much do you want for the whole set?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 25 June 2012, 21:25:19
Quote from: litster;621959
Rag, where is my twinkle twinkle little star keys...
If my PM to the last couple of guys doesn't result in some star keys by themselves I'm just going to buy Ahlitah's Tsangan kit and either send it all or the star keys to you. FYI he wants $20 for it so it'll cost me about $25-30 to do it but I really don't want to refund you the ~$3 for the missing keys (or even the whole $16 for that matter.) As far as I see it, it renders the entire purpose you had for the set null without them if it is incomplete, so even if I have to spend $25-30 after shipping to get you the keys, I should. Everyone else got a 100% complete set, you should too.

I could hold on to the rest of the kit and try to make some money back from it, but meh. Is it worth the hassle when I have 2 active group buys to keep me occupied?
Title: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Tue, 26 June 2012, 01:13:23
Thanks rag! :bounce:
Title: Re: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 23 July 2012, 12:36:41
Good thing I didn't ask for the star keys in the kit I bought, huh? :D . Sorry, I have a bad sense of humor ;) .
Title: Re: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 23 July 2012, 15:53:57
That reminds me, did this ever get taken care of? GH went down like right after I made that post. Litster if you still need em let me know, I'll buy those if they're still available. Again if anyone has any spare star keys I'll buy em for him.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: litster on Wed, 25 July 2012, 12:59:44
No star keys for me yet.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: aznsilvrboy on Wed, 19 September 2012, 11:14:13
Any chance that more of the 104 set can still be made/ordered? If not, and somebody is willing to sell theirs PM me!
Title: Re: Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: Quardah on Mon, 03 February 2014, 00:34:32
Any chances this will come back?
Title: Re: [GB] Ragnarok Red on Black 87/104 Keyset: Order Thread [Shipped]
Post by: captain on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:18:25
Any chances this will come back?

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