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Title: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Gtrx on Wed, 10 June 2020, 11:37:40
(https://i.imgur.com/5EjSeqy.jpg)
Keyboard: Polaris by Ai03
Welcome to GMK Nord group buy is active from June 10th 2020 to July 10th 2020!

Hello everyone and welcome to the GMK Nord groupbuy. After many delays, we're finally launching the groupbuy!

Link to the GMK Nord IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100646.0)

6/19/2020
MOQ reached on base
MOQ reached on novelties

6/25/2020
MOQ reached on base
MOQ reached on novelties
MOQ reached on norde
MOQ reached on spacebars

7/04/2020
MOQ reached on base
MOQ reached on novelties
MOQ reached on norde
MOQ reached on spacebars
MOQ reached on Numpad

If nord follows our predictions, all kits will reach moq. If some kit doesn't reach moq, it will be bought out. Artisans and deskmats have no moq.

Thank you for supporting Nord!

3/25/2021

Concerning GMK Nord updates: I'm sorry for going radio silent for a long time. From now on, I will focus on weekly updates every saturday.

Samples: Due to miscommunication with gmk,  I received samples of very old colors. R2 has been requested with up to date ones, so these ones aren't very representative of Gmk Nord. The alpha and mod
colors are especially different. The only color that stayed the same is the green.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720273291440422962/824759584463126688/Samples.jpg)

Deskmats: R1 samples have been rejected, as they weren't what I envisioned them and I am awaiting r2.


Vendors:
Discord server for more frequent updates/communication: https://discord.gg/ZVVDkx3KCT

Base Kit
The base kit covers most popular layouts (60%, HHKB, 75%, 65%, TKL).
(https://i.imgur.com/RPGcdHQ.jpg)

Spacebar Kit
This spacebar kit is like any other spacebar kit, but also supports split keyboards.
(https://i.imgur.com/xAi0qYG.jpg)

NorDe Kit
The NorDeUk kit adds support for these languages: Norwegian, British, German, Danish.
(https://i.imgur.com/dQWPETz.png)

Numpad Kit
The numpad kit was separated from the main kit to improve affordability, but maintain compatibility if anyone wants to outfit a numpad.
(https://i.imgur.com/YxLe1FE.jpg)

Novelty Kit
The novelty kit contains icon mods, vim arrows and nord novelty keycaps.
(https://i.imgur.com/LncqjGz.jpg)

Assembly Kit
This kit was made with compatibility in mind. It supports most 40%, ergo and ortho boards.
(https://i.imgur.com/1W43tbg.jpg)

Deskmats
(https://i.imgur.com/bHZAuNZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5EUZ2MK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ex0jGIf.jpg)

Keebwerk Artisan keycap
(https://i.imgur.com/TvzThsg.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/KhrG46B.png)

Renders
More will be added soontm
(https://i.imgur.com/zT41lPI.jpg)
Keyboard: Polaris by Ai03
(https://i.imgur.com/lHMCVC4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YgfeuVR.jpg)
Keyboard: Cygnus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101671.0) by Pheonixstarr (http://www.reddit.com/user/PheonixStarr)
(https://i.imgur.com/yv14j23.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tXK4w0X.jpg)
Keyboard: Abacus by SomeGreekGuy (unreleased)
(https://i.imgur.com/gbzKGNj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wJpnlce.jpg)
Keyboard: Planck by OLKB
(https://i.imgur.com/LOvvHYA.jpg)
Keyboard: Boardwalk by MKUltra
(https://i.imgur.com/hRQmsdN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pWpwBzT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2XsA0q.jpg)
Keyboard: Cygnus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101671.0)
I'd like to thank everyone for sticking with us through the IC and everyone who gave the set feedback. I'd like to encourage people to criticize and give feedback to others too, as in my experience, it only makes the sets better. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:17:04
Approved :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: logo4poop on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:17:28
pog, gl
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:18:56
Hurray!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:19:07
Please and thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Emir on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:30:49
oh boi, in! Best of luck brother :*
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: gt1989 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:39:55
I'm confused about the artisans, because on this it says there's supposed to be a blue one but it's not on mkultra instead it's a dark one.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: The_Royal on Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:44:14
Asking one more time for Clarification

So will the assembly kit include the alpha colored Pipe key or the accent mod colored pipe key?

The Kit Render has just the alpha colored Pipe:

(https://i.imgur.com/YWk7kDc.jpg)

But the Boardwalk render shows the accent Pipe key being used (which I think is preferable to most people):

(https://i.imgur.com/GdTPDpR.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jayiskuhl on Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:48:52
The renders above for the artisans show purple and blue yet only purple and dark are available. What's up?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jimboytacos on Wed, 10 June 2020, 16:26:25
Asking one more time for Clarification

So will the assembly kit include the alpha colored Pipe key or the accent mod colored pipe key?

The Kit Render has just the alpha colored Pipe:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YWk7kDc.jpg)


But the Boardwalk render shows the accent Pipe key being used (which I think is preferable to most people):

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GdTPDpR.jpg)


See here:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100646.msg2914233#msg2914233
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Wed, 10 June 2020, 18:07:42
The renders above for the artisans show purple and blue yet only purple and dark are available. What's up?

There was some miscommunication with the artisans on my end. If you bought the dark one, it's supposed to be the blue one. Write to your local vendor about it, as the dark ones aren't going to be made. Sorry for the mixup.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jayiskuhl on Wed, 10 June 2020, 20:46:26
The renders above for the artisans show purple and blue yet only purple and dark are available. What's up?

There was some miscommunication with the artisans on my end. If you bought the dark one, it's supposed to be the blue one. Write to your local vendor about it, as the dark ones aren't going to be made. Sorry for the mixup.

Not too sure what you mean by this. If I ordered the dark one, I'm supposed to tell the vendor it should be blue? Ask for a refund?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: The_Royal on Wed, 10 June 2020, 21:54:20
Asking one more time for Clarification

So will the assembly kit include the alpha colored Pipe key or the accent mod colored pipe key?

The Kit Render has just the alpha colored Pipe:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YWk7kDc.jpg)


But the Boardwalk render shows the accent Pipe key being used (which I think is preferable to most people):

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GdTPDpR.jpg)


See here:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100646.msg2914233#msg2914233

Ahhh okay thank you.

The renders are bound to confuse more people than I...

Would be easy to just take those boardwalk renders into photoshop and change the legend color for clarification.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jauny on Wed, 10 June 2020, 22:08:48
ordered!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: sting on Wed, 10 June 2020, 23:50:46
So what's the artisan color? Purple and dark or purple and blue? On vendor website it shows purple and dark. But in your GB and IC post it turns out to be purple and blue. I'm confused, please clarify.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: sozo on Thu, 11 June 2020, 02:27:12
Is MKUltra not going to get the artisans?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 11 June 2020, 03:06:20
Is MKUltra not going to get the artisans?

https://mkultra.click/products/gb-gmk-nord-artisan-caps?_pos=3&_sid=82fc05d20&_ss=r&variant=31739937914978
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Harvey on Thu, 11 June 2020, 05:56:58
This is my first keycap set I'm buying from a group buy and I'm super hyped for it
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 11 June 2020, 06:38:16
Why are there 4 different ESCs and 2 different mod colored pipes?

Disregard, I see why. The other layouts

There's a lot of discrepancies with the renders and the kittings, some clarification would be appreciated to some who are looking into this.

Such as your pipe in the assembly kit

You have renders of the 'Purple' and 'Blue' Keebwerk key in the thread but only Purple and Dark are offered on the vendor pages why

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:17:04
The renders above for the artisans show purple and blue yet only purple and dark are available. What's up?

There was some miscommunication with the artisans on my end. If you bought the dark one, it's supposed to be the blue one. Write to your local vendor about it, as the dark ones aren't going to be made. Sorry for the mixup.

Not too sure what you mean by this. If I ordered the dark one, I'm supposed to tell the vendor it should be blue? Ask for a refund?

A blue one is going to be manufactured instead of the dark one. If you ordered the dark one, you'll get the blue one. I'll have to discuss this further with the NA vendor when he's awake, but I think that they might issue a refund to everyone who ordered the dark one. Not sure about the latter yet though.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:18:50
Why are there 4 different ESCs and 2 different mod colored pipes?

Disregard, I see why. The other layouts

There's a lot of discrepancies with the renders and the kittings, some clarification would be appreciated to some who are looking into this.

Such as your pipe in the assembly kit

You have renders of the 'Purple' and 'Blue' Keebwerk key in the thread but only Purple and Dark are offered on the vendor pages why

>Such as your pipe in the assembly kit
new renders are on the IC thread and this thread. The pipe key on the boardwalk and planck renders is wrong, it's going to be mod colored with the same legend as the alphas.

>You have renders of the 'Purple' and 'Blue' Keebwerk key in the thread but only Purple and Dark are offered on the vendor pages why
There was miscommunication on my end on that. We are trying to get it resolved.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:20:03
So what's the artisan color? Purple and dark or purple and blue? On vendor website it shows purple and dark. But in your GB and IC post it turns out to be purple and blue. I'm confused, please clarify.

Dark artisan isn't going to be produced, a blue one will be produced instead of it. It was bad communication on my end which caused that.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:22:01
Asking one more time for Clarification

So will the assembly kit include the alpha colored Pipe key or the accent mod colored pipe key?

The Kit Render has just the alpha colored Pipe:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YWk7kDc.jpg)


But the Boardwalk render shows the accent Pipe key being used (which I think is preferable to most people):

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GdTPDpR.jpg)


Render on this thread for the assembly kit is final. Sorry for the mixup
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 11 June 2020, 09:26:30
lets go baby! v excited.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Thu, 11 June 2020, 09:47:21
lets go baby! v excited.

Thanks for the kind words hiney
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: elmo on Thu, 11 June 2020, 14:36:10
Finally. Been waiting way too long for this! :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 11 June 2020, 14:56:41
So here are the Keebwerk keys in final colors;

(https://i.imgur.com/KhrG46B.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/TvzThsg.png)

If there are any things that need to be cleared up let us know.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Pach on Thu, 11 June 2020, 16:57:11
So here are the Keebwerk keys in final colors;

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KhrG46B.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TvzThsg.png)


If there are any things that need to be cleared up let us know.
Are you the only ones selling the blue cap? The other vendors are selling the dark cap.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: chowder266 on Thu, 11 June 2020, 18:03:34
So here are the Keebwerk keys in final colors;

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KhrG46B.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TvzThsg.png)


If there are any things that need to be cleared up let us know.
Are you the only ones selling the blue cap? The other vendors are selling the dark cap.

Read the previous comments! The dark one was a mistake, the blue one will be produced instead.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: norabu on Fri, 12 June 2020, 19:23:29
Ordered the base kit, very excited!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: crispgm on Sat, 13 June 2020, 09:48:17
base and novelties. can't wait to use Nord theme and GMK Nord for dev.
And how about the MOQ now?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Narf on Sat, 13 June 2020, 14:35:03
Really nice Assembly kit. So far the best icon mods I have seen on a GMK Ergo kit. 2x Alpha and Mod-colored 2u convex spacebars is great to see for both ergo and 40% that use two 2u spacebars.

At first I wasn't a huge fan of the colorway to be honest, but the amazing design on the Assembly kit has really made it grow on me. This Assembly kit should be the standard for Ergo kits IMO. (Too bad it makes it so expensive, but I am willing to pay for a great kit.)
I will be in on Assembly for sure, probably in on Novelties, and maaaybe in on Spacebars to cover Boardwalk arrow layout.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: alphabirth on Sat, 13 June 2020, 16:54:48
Question about the base kit: from the renders it shows that there are 2x 2.25U shift keys.  Is that really the case, or is one of them supposed to be a 2U shift?  I can't imagine why 2x 2.25U's would be needed...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 13 June 2020, 18:04:58
66% boards sometimes/often have two 2.25u shifts.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: alphabirth on Sun, 14 June 2020, 04:44:32
66% boards sometimes/often have two 2.25u shifts.

Ah true, I suppose they can.  It seems to me that a 2U left shift is becoming common on those layouts as well though.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: scie on Sun, 14 June 2020, 07:48:13
Are those numbers on candykeys the MOQ of the different sets? Like 28/100 for NorDE?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: woyaodapian on Sun, 14 June 2020, 08:16:54
how are nord's numbers now?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: blacksimon on Sun, 14 June 2020, 10:35:54
B?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 14 June 2020, 12:20:55
So the numbers are on our site https://candykeys.com/group-buys/gmk-nord

This counts for Base Kit, the NORDE numbers and other kits are done with delay. We are posting the real numbers here tomorrow or the day after. We are just in the middle of compiling a sheets.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Yeoh on Sun, 14 June 2020, 12:31:33
Curious including Pheonixstar's Cygnus in the renders after all the shady things surrounding that person and that board.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 14 June 2020, 14:41:22
More
(https://i.postimg.cc/mDcTQLKn/orders-200614-partial.png)
<-- CandyKeys website at 14:47 EDT

(https://i.postimg.cc/cHnwhYPV/GMKnord-Status200614b.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: dertkw on Sun, 14 June 2020, 15:17:41
Did someone just order 100 NorDe kits? :D
(not complaining at all, going to get Base and NorDe myself)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: noorejji on Sun, 14 June 2020, 15:27:48
If those numbers are correct, that has to be the first time in history that Norde has reached MOQ first.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Sun, 14 June 2020, 17:04:07
If those numbers are correct, that has to be the first time in history that Norde has reached MOQ first.

Just asked the vendors about this, but if it's actually real, color me impressed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 14 June 2020, 18:42:54
GMK Nord is nothing without the Norde kit
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: honoka on Mon, 15 June 2020, 04:15:47
Give us norde-kits and we shall buy them.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Carcha on Mon, 15 June 2020, 05:15:26
The norde kit made it a must-buy for me. Glad to see it's being made! <3
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: bukowski on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:20:09
NorDe Kit? I am in.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: //gainsborough on Fri, 19 June 2020, 15:21:12
Not to change the subject, but is there a plan to bring that abacus numpad into existence?  That's an awesome design.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Thu, 25 June 2020, 11:36:44
Not to change the subject, but is there a plan to bring that abacus numpad into existence?  That's an awesome design.

Kind of, it's a bit dead now, although greek is working on a pcb for it so there is a chance that it will run. Sorry for the convoluted answer.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 25 June 2020, 22:13:05
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrf7PrJM/GMKnord-Status200625b.png)

More
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)
<-- progress
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 25 June 2020, 23:46:32
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 26 June 2020, 00:08:26
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.

i legit bought it for the Q-@ key
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Emir on Fri, 26 June 2020, 00:28:24
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.

I think candykeys bought moq day 1 themselves?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 26 June 2020, 00:35:01
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.

I think candykeys bought moq day 1 themselves?

i bought 5 to sell aftermarket
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Emir on Fri, 26 June 2020, 01:42:12
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.

I think candykeys bought moq day 1 themselves?

i bought 5 to sell aftermarket

Dolphin, everyone knows nordeuk kits is a pure cash grab. Don't you have any shame?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Spicemaster on Fri, 26 June 2020, 08:09:12
Dark or modern deskmat......porque no los dos?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Fri, 26 June 2020, 17:02:36
Dark or modern deskmat......porque no los dos?

Modern is this one
 (https://i.imgur.com/bHZAuNZ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Fri, 26 June 2020, 17:04:38
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.

I think candykeys bought moq day 1 themselves?

i bought 5 to sell aftermarket

woah, please no Norde kit flipping in the US. It's too lucrative and immoral  >:D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Tarek on Sat, 27 June 2020, 08:33:18
Wow those mods and artisans.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 29 June 2020, 01:56:43
The NorDeUk kit adds support for these languages: Norwegian, British, German, Danish.

Ah yes, the well known British language.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 29 June 2020, 03:08:04
The NorDeUk kit adds support for these languages: Norwegian, British, German, Danish.

Ah yes, the well known British language.

To be fair its not the well known UK Language either :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: pleasega on Mon, 29 June 2020, 09:57:04
is there a reason why there's no second b key in the spacebar kit?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: scie on Tue, 30 June 2020, 11:40:08
I wonder how much weight those artisan keycaps have. Don´t they push the keys like Cherry MX red down? This is why I hesitate to order them
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:59:34
I've been trying to order on CandyKeys for a while now, but when I hit "Place Order" I just get a spinning circle. I've tried it in Firefox, Chrome, and on my phone. Has anyone else had this issue?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Jojjelito on Tue, 30 June 2020, 19:04:35
Placed an order with CandyKeys just fine earlier. Maybe it’s geo blocking? If you’re in North America there should be a GB proxy over there.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 30 June 2020, 19:19:14
Placed an order with CandyKeys just fine earlier. Maybe it’s geo blocking? If you’re in North America there should be a GB proxy over there.

CandyKeys says they ship to North America. 

The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.

I guess I could try a different proxy, but I figured I would get it fastest with the company based out of Germany.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:31:04
Placed an order with CandyKeys just fine earlier. Maybe it’s geo blocking? If you’re in North America there should be a GB proxy over there.

CandyKeys says they ship to North America. 

The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.

I guess I could try a different proxy, but I figured I would get it fastest with the company based out of Germany.

I'm in the US and placed my GMK Nord order with Candykeys for much the same reason.  I'd never heard of MKUltra before, so I looked at his site and his post history on Reddit.  Hard pass.  I had no difficulties placing my order with Candykeys shipped to a US address; give it another try later.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Wed, 01 July 2020, 07:22:25
Placed an order with CandyKeys just fine earlier. Maybe it’s geo blocking? If you’re in North America there should be a GB proxy over there.

CandyKeys says they ship to North America. 

The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.

I guess I could try a different proxy, but I figured I would get it fastest with the company based out of Germany.

I'm in the US and placed my GMK Nord order with Candykeys for much the same reason.  I'd never heard of MKUltra before, so I looked at his site and his post history on Reddit.  Hard pass.  I had no difficulties placing my order with Candykeys shipped to a US address; give it another try later.

Hey thanks.  It worked this morning.  I wonder why it didn't go through the last two times I tried.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 01 July 2020, 07:36:59
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLSkt9dX/GMKnord-Status200625.png)


Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRy6Zth/GMKnord-Progress200625b.png)


Wow, those NorDe sales are unbelievable.

 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: edasaur on Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:03:18
Placed an order with CandyKeys just fine earlier. Maybe it’s geo blocking? If you’re in North America there should be a GB proxy over there.

CandyKeys says they ship to North America. 

The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.

I guess I could try a different proxy, but I figured I would get it fastest with the company based out of Germany.

I'm in the US and placed my GMK Nord order with Candykeys for much the same reason.  I'd never heard of MKUltra before, so I looked at his site and his post history on Reddit.  Hard pass.  I had no difficulties placing my order with Candykeys shipped to a US address; give it another try later.

Hey thanks.  It worked this morning.  I wonder why it didn't go through the last two times I tried.

Thinking about pursuing this route as well. Is the street number just the number that precedes the street name? Seems kind of redundant unless I'm supposed to omit the street number from the street address...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:11:52
Placed an order with CandyKeys just fine earlier. Maybe it’s geo blocking? If you’re in North America there should be a GB proxy over there.

CandyKeys says they ship to North America. 

The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.

I guess I could try a different proxy, but I figured I would get it fastest with the company based out of Germany.

I'm in the US and placed my GMK Nord order with Candykeys for much the same reason.  I'd never heard of MKUltra before, so I looked at his site and his post history on Reddit.  Hard pass.  I had no difficulties placing my order with Candykeys shipped to a US address; give it another try later.

Hey thanks.  It worked this morning.  I wonder why it didn't go through the last two times I tried.

Thinking about pursuing this route as well. Is the street number just the number that precedes the street name? Seems kind of redundant unless I'm supposed to omit the street number from the street address...

I ended up just putting my street address in twice since it was required.  I figured the post office would be able to figure it out.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: kaiba on Wed, 01 July 2020, 13:19:31
The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.
What happened with GMK Hyperfuse, did the buyers just not get their keycaps at all?

I'm also extremely hesitant to buy from MKUltra... but to use CandyKeys like some others here, the price of international shipping would make this set way too expensive for me, on top of an already high price tag compared to some other GMK sets. I also wondered if MKUltra would actually exist next year, seeing as much of their business seems to be from cutting foam, but other companies like KBDfans themselves are now going to start cutting these foams - I imagine people will soon move on to other companies with better histories in fulfilling orders. I want Nord a lot... unsure if I should take the risk on MKUltra, and hope that if their business is going to close, they'll at least pass on the orders to another reputable vendor. Or swallow the high shipping fees from CandyKeys...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:30:24
The US proxy is MKUltra. Based on the owner's attitude in posts to r/mechanicalkeyboards and their huge backlog of unfilled orders, I'm not sure the company will still exist by the time this set is supposed to ship. I'm always afraid of buying in to the next GMK Hyperfuse.
What happened with GMK Hyperfuse, did the buyers just not get their keycaps at all?

I'm also extremely hesitant to buy from MKUltra... but to use CandyKeys like some others here, the price of international shipping would make this set way too expensive for me, on top of an already high price tag compared to some other GMK sets. I also wondered if MKUltra would actually exist next year, seeing as much of their business seems to be from cutting foam, but other companies like KBDfans themselves are now going to start cutting these foams - I imagine people will soon move on to other companies with better histories in fulfilling orders. I want Nord a lot... unsure if I should take the risk on MKUltra, and hope that if their business is going to close, they'll at least pass on the orders to another reputable vendor. Or swallow the high shipping fees from CandyKeys...

You might want to take a closer look at the price difference.  Note that the prices listed on Candykeys' site include VAT, which you do not pay as a US customer.  If you have an order shipped to an address in the US, VAT will get removed during checkout.  When I placed my order with Candykeys, my total came to 150.99 Euros.  I placed that order using a credit card that gets a good exchange rate and doesn't have additional fees for foreign transactions or currency exchange; that turned into a charge to my credit card for $170.56 for the base and numpad kits.  If I place the same items in my cart on MKUltra's site, it adds up to $181.17 ($125 base + $35 numpad + $2.55 route shipping insurance + $7.02 shipping + $11.60 sales tax).  So for me, it was cheaper *and* less sketchy to order from Candykeys.  YMMV.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: kaiba on Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:18:57
You might want to take a closer look at the price difference.  Note that the prices listed on Candykeys' site include VAT, which you do not pay as a US customer.  If you have an order shipped to an address in the US, VAT will get removed during checkout.  When I placed my order with Candykeys, my total came to 150.99 Euros.  I placed that order using a credit card that gets a good exchange rate and doesn't have additional fees for foreign transactions or currency exchange; that turned into a charge to my credit card for $170.56 for the base and numpad kits.  If I place the same items in my cart on MKUltra's site, it adds up to $181.17 ($125 base + $35 numpad + $2.55 route shipping insurance + $7.02 shipping + $11.60 sales tax).  So for me, it was cheaper *and* less sketchy to order from Candykeys.  YMMV.
Ah you're right, I tried changing my checkout location to the US on CandyKeys and without the VAT charge the total is close to the same as from MKUltra. Thanks for pointing this out! I guess I'll be going with CandyKeys. The only question now, is how to fill out the street number vs street address parts of the shipping form...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hkhawk on Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:21:58
If you're in the US why not just order from DeskHero?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: kaiba on Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:53:38
If you're in the US why not just order from DeskHero?
I, um... I don't know. xD I got caught up in other US people saying they wanted to buy from CandyKeys because it's closer to GMK factories, but DeskHero would be better for me.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Wed, 01 July 2020, 19:06:09
If you're in the US why not just order from DeskHero?

Personally, I didn't see that it was any cheaper. (I actually found the Australian proxy to be the cheapest for some reason.) And from past group buys I have followed it looked like those that ordered from CandyKeys got their sets first. I'm not certain that is true, but they don't have to wait for transatlantic freight shipping before shipping out individual orders.

For any other group buy I would definitely support my local proxy though.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 01 July 2020, 22:45:34
Candykeys said express shipping to Americas would be 15 euro but price hasn't changed on the site. I ordered from mkultra personally. Might have done candykeys if price was actually cheaper for me. I've personally never been wronged by MKultra (purchased foams before peolpe began reporting issues). Hoping shipping won't be an issue and hes around in a year lol.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Curin Derwin on Fri, 03 July 2020, 08:29:58
Any plans for other form factors?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Sat, 04 July 2020, 10:37:45
Any plans for other form factors?

Not until the set arrives
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:37:24
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kZ5BJjZ/GMKnord-Status200704b.png)

More
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYkmxWWN/GMKnord-Progress200704.png)
<-- progress
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: thornkin on Mon, 06 July 2020, 02:20:14
Will assembly get made if it doesn't hit moq? If not, would we have the option to shift to base?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: thornkin on Mon, 06 July 2020, 19:58:00
Oh I see at the top it says any kits which don't meet moq will be bought out so it should be safe to order assembly.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:18:55
I joined this. Dark set, OG Icon Mods and Norde bought before GB start. need to support people who are doing things right.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jermaink on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:32:49
Just a quick question about the numpad set, I notice that there are two '5' keys. Is one of these barred/nippled/scooped? It's a bit hard to make out from the images. I hope that one of the keycaps has a noticeable tactile difference (I think a nipple would be my preference).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:38:07
Just a quick question about the numpad set, I notice that there are two '5' keys. Is one of these barred/nippled/scooped? It's a bit hard to make out from the images. I hope that one of the keycaps has a noticeable tactile difference (I think a nipple would be my preference).

Every GMK set I've seen has barred and unmarked versions of the F, J, and numpad 5 keys. I'm sure that's the case here as well.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: santela on Tue, 07 July 2020, 13:25:33
Okay only a few days left and I still can't decide if I want these or not. I think they'd look best on a blue keyboard but I don't have one. Yet they just look so perfect I want one.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 07 July 2020, 15:36:13
this set will look good on a lot of boards because the colors are fairly neutral.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: titanium on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:01:20
There is no 1.5u alt in the icon kit?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Gtrx on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:10:51
Numbers (without extras):
Base kit: 1040
Norde kit: 116
Novelty kit: 435
Numpad kit: 182
Assembly kit: 112
Spacebar kit: 165

Thank you to everyone who participated in the gb. reaching 1000 naturally was a very nice surprise.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: gunth on Wed, 08 July 2020, 12:16:00
Numbers (without extras):
Base kit: 1040
Norde kit: 116
Novelty kit: 435
Numpad kit: 182
Assembly kit: 112
Spacebar kit: 165

Thank you to everyone who participated in the gb. reaching 1000 naturally was a very nice surprise.
nice  :thumb:,now hurry up and make that kit  :))
i am waiting
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: scie on Wed, 08 July 2020, 12:33:28
Ok, just ordered my first gb base, novelties, norde, numpad and both artisan keys. I am curious how it'll work out  :D :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: getlazy on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:45:40
Man, Im surprised by how many people picked up the novelty kit. While I think the base kit is super ****ing clean, the novelties kinda dont do anything for me (of course thats super subjective) 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Missingnumber on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:59:49
Man, Im surprised by how many people picked up the novelty kit. While I think the base kit is super ****ing clean, the novelties kinda dont do anything for me (of course thats super subjective)

I was very torn about them. In the end my FOMO got the best of me and I went ahead and ordered them. I regret not ordering the space bar kits from the earlier group buys I participated in, so now I'm making sure to get everything I might want by the time it's delivered.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 08 July 2020, 20:16:44
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vkd5SnXP/GMKnord-Status200708b.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYmq9qgG/GMKnord-Progress200708b.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Curin Derwin on Thu, 09 July 2020, 01:18:45
Is there a matching Cable?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: rondg on Thu, 09 July 2020, 23:55:20
Is that a 1.5 Shift on the assembly kit?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 13 July 2020, 23:59:14
Is that a 1.5 Shift on the assembly kit?

Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: rondg on Tue, 14 July 2020, 01:03:49
Is that a 1.5 Shift on the assembly kit?

Yes.

Okay, thanks! I bought that kit just for that key
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Joeni on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:54:53
Managed to sneak in under the wire and put an order in through CandyKeys; base and novelties.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: IggyL on Sun, 26 July 2020, 10:20:02
With recent struggles surrounding MKUltra's contribution to the order, will orders from other vendors be affected? Will the order even be placed with GMK in light of this?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:27:40
With recent struggles surrounding MKUltra's contribution to the order, will orders from other vendors be affected? Will the order even be placed with GMK in light of this?

what happened with his order?

Given the total amount I am sure this will be placed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: euphxenos on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:52:05
With recent struggles surrounding MKUltra's contribution to the order, will orders from other vendors be affected? Will the order even be placed with GMK in light of this?

what happened with his order?

Given the total amount I am sure this will be placed.

At Shopify's insistence, MKUltra sent out a status update email to their mailing list a couple of days ago.  Apparently Shopify is withholding their funds from orders until they catch up on fulfillment (and has been doing so for the past two and a half months).  In amidst his woes, there are two mentions of GMK Nord specifically:

"Shopify is still not happy with this. They are expecting that somehow we ship all group buy orders immediately, and that is a condition for releasing funds. This is impossible, especially since GMK Nord hasn't even been paid for yet - because Shopify has the funds!"

"[GB] GMK Nord: The group buy concluded July 10 and the order has been placed. We are waiting on invoices from GMK at this point so this is still on track even with the funds hold, as it should be cleared up by the time the invoice arrives."

If you want to read the whole thing, it looks like someone posted it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hxolk3/mkultra_email_from_last_night/

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:54:36
With recent struggles surrounding MKUltra's contribution to the order, will orders from other vendors be affected? Will the order even be placed with GMK in light of this?

what happened with his order?

Given the total amount I am sure this will be placed.

Yikes lol. I guess Shopify handles these on a by-case basis. I run my store through them and have never had an issue with held funds. They did email me before my first "big" payment asking why the items weren't fulfilled yet; I simply explained that I operate on a group buy/pre-order model and they released them the next day. Haven't had a problem since.
At Shopify's insistence, MKUltra sent out a status update email to their mailing list a couple of days ago.  Apparently Shopify is withholding their funds from orders until they catch up on fulfillment (and has been doing so for the past two and a half months).  In amidst his woes, there are two mentions of GMK Nord specifically:

"Shopify is still not happy with this. They are expecting that somehow we ship all group buy orders immediately, and that is a condition for releasing funds. This is impossible, especially since GMK Nord hasn't even been paid for yet - because Shopify has the funds!"

"[GB] GMK Nord: The group buy concluded July 10 and the order has been placed. We are waiting on invoices from GMK at this point so this is still on track even with the funds hold, as it should be cleared up by the time the invoice arrives."

If you want to read the whole thing, it looks like someone posted it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hxolk3/mkultra_email_from_last_night/
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: -Jerry- on Sun, 26 July 2020, 16:38:56
Since they specifically say that they are waiting on invoices from GMK and expect the fund hold to be cleared by the time these come in, I wouldn't worry particularly. As only 1/5 of the vendors and knowing that CandyKeys (and presumably DailyClack, etc.) typically buy extras as well, I'd suspect that even if none of the MKUltra orders existed, the base set would have met MOQ - though that's just speculation, it's impossible to know without seeing a break down by vendor.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:27:42
With recent struggles surrounding MKUltra's contribution to the order, will orders from other vendors be affected? Will the order even be placed with GMK in light of this?

what happened with his order?

Given the total amount I am sure this will be placed.

Yikes lol. I guess Shopify handles these on a by-case basis. I run my store through them and have never had an issue with held funds. They did email me before my first "big" payment asking why the items weren't fulfilled yet; I simply explained that I operate on a group buy/pre-order model and they released them the next day. Haven't had a problem since.
At Shopify's insistence, MKUltra sent out a status update email to their mailing list a couple of days ago.  Apparently Shopify is withholding their funds from orders until they catch up on fulfillment (and has been doing so for the past two and a half months).  In amidst his woes, there are two mentions of GMK Nord specifically:

"Shopify is still not happy with this. They are expecting that somehow we ship all group buy orders immediately, and that is a condition for releasing funds. This is impossible, especially since GMK Nord hasn't even been paid for yet - because Shopify has the funds!"

"[GB] GMK Nord: The group buy concluded July 10 and the order has been placed. We are waiting on invoices from GMK at this point so this is still on track even with the funds hold, as it should be cleared up by the time the invoice arrives."

If you want to read the whole thing, it looks like someone posted it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hxolk3/mkultra_email_from_last_night/

Happens more often than you think. We too are currently under suspension for the same reasons until next month. The bad news for participants here is that without cash reserves there is nothing MK will be able to do. We survived this issue by recommending buyers use PayPal at checkout while this was occurring. They also told me under no circumstances do they bring the review dates forward either, which last for 120 days.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: gex on Sun, 26 July 2020, 20:43:08
i believe shopify is holding that money because they're fed up with the number of cancelled orders. if i were shopify i'd monitor the cancellation ratio, the timeframe between orders and shipments, etc. it's the very same concept as multiplayer gaming, several users reported you? then you'll play with users with the same behaviour or you'll get a cooldown period, etc. to be honest i'm glad that shopify have these safety measures. this action is not related to the group buys, that's a big lie, it's related to all the other orders, the tons of cancellations and the unsatisfied customers.

and what about mkultra? the guy got what he deserves. after years of constant lying it's time to vanish from this hobby. i'm not a hater, i ordered from him a few months ago. he did not ship for two months or more, i went to his discord to personally ask him about it, promised a date, missed it, u asked again, promised another date, missed it as well, shipped another 2 weeks later. and all these after he admitted on r/mechmarket that his business sucks and his communication is rude or just doesn't exist at all. i believed him for the first few times but now it seems repetitive, lying for months then admits it, promises to change everything then goes back to lying again.

people in us: tell the gb organizers to choose a different vendor and don't buy anything from mkultra. that's all.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: catbus on Sun, 26 July 2020, 22:57:19
i believe shopify is holding that money because they're fed up with the number of cancelled orders. if i were shopify i'd monitor the cancellation ratio, the timeframe between orders and shipments, etc. it's the very same concept as multiplayer gaming, several users reported you? then you'll play with users with the same behaviour or you'll get a cooldown period, etc. to be honest i'm glad that shopify have these safety measures. this action is not related to the group buys, that's a big lie, it's related to all the other orders, the tons of cancellations and the unsatisfied customers.

and what about mkultra? the guy got what he deserves. after years of constant lying it's time to vanish from this hobby. i'm not a hater, i ordered from him a few months ago. he did not ship for two months or more, i went to his discord to personally ask him about it, promised a date, missed it, u asked again, promised another date, missed it as well, shipped another 2 weeks later. and all these after he admitted on r/mechmarket that his business sucks and his communication is rude or just doesn't exist at all. i believed him for the first few times but now it seems repetitive, lying for months then admits it, promises to change everything then goes back to lying again.

people in us: tell the gb organizers to choose a different vendor and don't buy anything from mkultra. that's all.
That's unfortunate to hear. I personally have not had any bad experiences with mkultra.

I've ordered a few times from him and while I wouldn't say the fulfilment was quick - I never had any issues.

Evidently not everyone has had the same experience, just want to share mine.

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: kwhilden on Sun, 26 July 2020, 23:04:59
I've ordered six different times from MKUltra and received foam in a timely manner. I feel for those who have had problems, but I know the guy is passionate about our hobby and wants to build a successful business. He's got unique issues but in talking with him, I think he's learning.

Let's hope he can get through this Shopify issue because they are not easy to communicate with. My own business uses Shopify and after reading about what MKUltra and countless other businesses have gone through, I am ready to switch to a different service.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 27 July 2020, 09:10:38
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hv95g3/whats_up_with_mkultra/

Ouch, anyone know what the time frame is for credit card protection? Since it's taking GMK some 8+ months to fulfill orders would this fall outside the protection window?

Not to mention the headaches that could occur if GMK's quality is subpar on this and we need the vendor to resolve it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: -bl1nk on Mon, 27 July 2020, 09:22:33
Yea, I'm a bit concerned. Not like there is/was any alternative for the Nord GB in the United States.. at least none that I know of. Unsure what I'll do, what are you guys/gals doing?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: kwhilden on Mon, 27 July 2020, 11:47:52
I just heard from MKUltra that Shopify has released the funds they were holding, so there's no issues with Nord. 

I think Shopify was being extremely harsh and authoritarian, but I believe in MKUltra getting his business under control and being a valuable member of the community going forward. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: MKUltraCorp on Mon, 27 July 2020, 11:57:42
Code: [Select]
Hello,

Thank you very much for staying in touch and providing additional context.

The review on your account has been completed. As a result, the hold on payments has been removed and transfer of funds has been
enabled. Payouts will be released to the bank account on file as per your regular payment cycle. Please allow 2-3 business days for
pending payouts to reach your bank account.

I appreciate your cooperation in this matter and wish you and your team the best of luck with your business moving forward.

Regards,
Emma
Risk Analyst | Shopify

All funds are being released. Screenshots have been sent to GTRX and other necessary parties.

Please redirect your pitchforks to the next bit of drama.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: IggyL on Mon, 27 July 2020, 19:43:07
Code: [Select]
Hello,

Thank you very much for staying in touch and providing additional context.

The review on your account has been completed. As a result, the hold on payments has been removed and transfer of funds has been
enabled. Payouts will be released to the bank account on file as per your regular payment cycle. Please allow 2-3 business days for
pending payouts to reach your bank account.

I appreciate your cooperation in this matter and wish you and your team the best of luck with your business moving forward.

Regards,
Emma
Risk Analyst | Shopify

All funds are being released. Screenshots have been sent to GTRX and other necessary parties.

Please redirect your pitchforks to the next bit of drama.

This is good news! Thanks for letting us know.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: Curin Derwin on Wed, 29 July 2020, 09:15:00
Thanks for the update.

QQ to all: Does anyone know if an extra B ended up being included in this set?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 29 July 2020, 12:29:39
Got this a few weeks ago. I just hope GMK will have better spacebars when this ships out next year. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 29 July 2020, 18:18:34
i believe shopify is holding that money because they're fed up with the number of cancelled orders. if i were shopify i'd monitor the cancellation ratio, the timeframe between orders and shipments, etc. it's the very same concept as multiplayer gaming, several users reported you? then you'll play with users with the same behaviour or you'll get a cooldown period, etc. to be honest i'm glad that shopify have these safety measures. this action is not related to the group buys, that's a big lie, it's related to all the other orders, the tons of cancellations and the unsatisfied customers.

and what about mkultra? the guy got what he deserves. after years of constant lying it's time to vanish from this hobby. i'm not a hater, i ordered from him a few months ago. he did not ship for two months or more, i went to his discord to personally ask him about it, promised a date, missed it, u asked again, promised another date, missed it as well, shipped another 2 weeks later. and all these after he admitted on r/mechmarket that his business sucks and his communication is rude or just doesn't exist at all. i believed him for the first few times but now it seems repetitive, lying for months then admits it, promises to change everything then goes back to lying again.

people in us: tell the gb organizers to choose a different vendor and don't buy anything from mkultra. that's all.

jeez. for not being a hater youre pretty happy to know a guy might potentially be homeless because of shopify. props to you for being really self aware
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Thu, 30 July 2020, 00:52:12
With recent struggles surrounding MKUltra's contribution to the order, will orders from other vendors be affected? Will the order even be placed with GMK in light of this?

what happened with his order?

Given the total amount I am sure this will be placed.

Yikes lol. I guess Shopify handles these on a by-case basis. I run my store through them and have never had an issue with held funds. They did email me before my first "big" payment asking why the items weren't fulfilled yet; I simply explained that I operate on a group buy/pre-order model and they released them the next day. Haven't had a problem since.
At Shopify's insistence, MKUltra sent out a status update email to their mailing list a couple of days ago.  Apparently Shopify is withholding their funds from orders until they catch up on fulfillment (and has been doing so for the past two and a half months).  In amidst his woes, there are two mentions of GMK Nord specifically:

"Shopify is still not happy with this. They are expecting that somehow we ship all group buy orders immediately, and that is a condition for releasing funds. This is impossible, especially since GMK Nord hasn't even been paid for yet - because Shopify has the funds!"

"[GB] GMK Nord: The group buy concluded July 10 and the order has been placed. We are waiting on invoices from GMK at this point so this is still on track even with the funds hold, as it should be cleared up by the time the invoice arrives."

If you want to read the whole thing, it looks like someone posted it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hxolk3/mkultra_email_from_last_night/

Happens more often than you think. We too are currently under suspension for the same reasons until next month. The bad news for participants here is that without cash reserves there is nothing MK will be able to do. We survived this issue by recommending buyers use PayPal at checkout while this was occurring. They also told me under no circumstances do they bring the review dates forward either, which last for 120 days.

Hi bro, not sure if you remember me, i was the one unfortunate dude that wasn't able to get tangies because i paid via credit card, it didn't push thru (all good now, it was a protection thingy from my bank) i again would like to thank SK for having an amazing after sales service (even if i wasn't able to get any) .

Question tho, i'm kinda new so i don't know if my order will be affected. I ordered GMK Nord thru ZF together with GMK Hammerhead. Is this going to push thru? I mean not sure what mkultra is.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: -Jerry- on Thu, 30 July 2020, 02:19:48
Question tho, i'm kinda new so i don't know if my order will be affected. I ordered GMK Nord thru ZF together with GMK Hammerhead. Is this going to push thru? I mean not sure what mkultra is.

MKUltra is a US based vendor, the discussion here was regarding a concern that there would be a hold up in MKUltra placing the order for GMK Nord because Shopify (the payment system they use) was withholding funds. This is no longer the case, so there’s nothing to worry about.

You’d have to check with ZF about how they handle it when two pre-orders are placed in the same transaction, but I’d assume that each gets sent separately. Both sets are due in ‘Early 2021’ so if they have to wait till both sets are produced, you might have to wait a bit longer for whichever is produced first.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Thu, 30 July 2020, 05:44:49
Question tho, i'm kinda new so i don't know if my order will be affected. I ordered GMK Nord thru ZF together with GMK Hammerhead. Is this going to push thru? I mean not sure what mkultra is.

MKUltra is a US based vendor, the discussion here was regarding a concern that there would be a hold up in MKUltra placing the order for GMK Nord because Shopify (the payment system they use) was withholding funds. This is no longer the case, so there’s nothing to worry about.

You’d have to check with ZF about how they handle it when two pre-orders are placed in the same transaction, but I’d assume that each gets sent separately. Both sets are due in ‘Early 2021’ so if they have to wait till both sets are produced, you might have to wait a bit longer for whichever is produced first.

I see, thank you for taking time to reply. :thumb:

As for the ZF Purchase. Sadly i purchased them all together, including the grab bags, which was in stock when i bought it, ZF really have horrible after sales! I mean i had to email them a couple of time, then get a response but does not say my request will be done, my request was to get different receipts for each item for tax purposes.

I didn't realize that i had to purchase separately  :)) but i didn't really need to grab bags anyways, so i'm guessing all 3 will be shipped all together next year.  ^-^ Lesson learned. But moving forward i will get all my stuff via SK, given how Stef and the SK Discord community helped me out last time. As long as they can ship to the Philippines on my future purchases, i'll be buying all stuff i wanted from them. (I'm eyeing on Nightshade, Alpine65 KB, GMK Alpine, JTK Nightsakura, GMK Colorchrome... Man, i just realized the more i stay in this forum, the more i get deeper.

Also waiting for a good 1800 layout, i need it 1. (i passed on the mini 1800's)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ishwerp on Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:51:43
Any update on the status of this keyset, and when its gonna be fulfilled?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: elmo on Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:40:58
Any update on the status of this keyset, and when its gonna be fulfilled?

most likely not anytime soon. expect sometime next year around the same time (q3/q4).

GMK Dracula hasn't even finished colormatching yet and this set has a similar amount of custom colors so it's going to take probably as long if not even longer.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: -Jerry- on Wed, 09 September 2020, 15:33:15
most likely not anytime soon. expect sometime next year around the same time (q3/q4).

Is the GMK backlog really that bad? :/

Would be weird if I got GMK Bento R2 (which I assume will be easier, since a re-run) before GMK Nord, having ordered them two months apart, haha
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 09 September 2020, 22:41:50
The last thing I heard about this was in an email update from MKUltra last week (9/4/20):

"GMK Nord

C'mon GMK, get with the program! We need an invoice!"

Have the other vendors been invoiced by GMK yet?  Or is there one invoice that gets sent to a lead vendor that they all contribute to?  I have no idea how they handle that.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 01 October 2020, 14:52:50
Bummed! Nord and Dracula are my favorite color schemes :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord
Post by: SwitchKeys on Thu, 01 October 2020, 17:30:14
Question tho, i'm kinda new so i don't know if my order will be affected. I ordered GMK Nord thru ZF together with GMK Hammerhead. Is this going to push thru? I mean not sure what mkultra is.

MKUltra is a US based vendor, the discussion here was regarding a concern that there would be a hold up in MKUltra placing the order for GMK Nord because Shopify (the payment system they use) was withholding funds. This is no longer the case, so there’s nothing to worry about.

You’d have to check with ZF about how they handle it when two pre-orders are placed in the same transaction, but I’d assume that each gets sent separately. Both sets are due in ‘Early 2021’ so if they have to wait till both sets are produced, you might have to wait a bit longer for whichever is produced first.

I see, thank you for taking time to reply. :thumb:

As for the ZF Purchase. Sadly i purchased them all together, including the grab bags, which was in stock when i bought it, ZF really have horrible after sales! I mean i had to email them a couple of time, then get a response but does not say my request will be done, my request was to get different receipts for each item for tax purposes.

I didn't realize that i had to purchase separately  :)) but i didn't really need to grab bags anyways, so i'm guessing all 3 will be shipped all together next year.  ^-^ Lesson learned. But moving forward i will get all my stuff via SK, given how Stef and the SK Discord community helped me out last time. As long as they can ship to the Philippines on my future purchases, i'll be buying all stuff i wanted from them. (I'm eyeing on Nightshade, Alpine65 KB, GMK Alpine, JTK Nightsakura, GMK Colorchrome... Man, i just realized the more i stay in this forum, the more i get deeper.

Also waiting for a good 1800 layout, i need it 1. (i passed on the mini 1800's)

Thanks for the kind words!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: frostfiree on Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:19:25
Updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: dstaar on Fri, 30 October 2020, 23:35:32
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 31 October 2020, 04:16:19
The last thing I heard about this was in an email update from MKUltra last week (9/4/20):

"GMK Nord

C'mon GMK, get with the program! We need an invoice!"

Have the other vendors been invoiced by GMK yet?  Or is there one invoice that gets sent to a lead vendor that they all contribute to?  I have no idea how they handle that.

FWIW GMK invoicing has been a bit delayed the last few weeks
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: euphxenos on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:32:13
Mkultra sent out an update yesterday that included this about GMK Nord, so I guess they've almost paid GMK:

"GMK Nord

We've been waiting forever for an invoice and finally our prayers were heard. The invoice has been received, payment is pending and to celebrate we've put up a limited number of extras already! Grab them while they're hot!"

Has any color matching been going on, or is GMK waiting until after they get paid to start that?  They've been really slow at color matching during the pandemic.  Gtrx?  Any comment?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: cpt-nic on Sat, 31 October 2020, 16:41:17
MkUltra also marked on the extras that expected arrival is somewhere between februrary and april 2021 which would be fast IMO
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Gtrx on Wed, 02 December 2020, 12:03:54
Mkultra sent out an update yesterday that included this about GMK Nord, so I guess they've almost paid GMK:

"GMK Nord

We've been waiting forever for an invoice and finally our prayers were heard. The invoice has been received, payment is pending and to celebrate we've put up a limited number of extras already! Grab them while they're hot!"

Has any color matching been going on, or is GMK waiting until after they get paid to start that?  They've been really slow at color matching during the pandemic.  Gtrx?  Any comment?

Hey, CK has told me that gmk began color matching, although no timeframe as to when I'll be receiving samples. GMK has been pretty slow recently.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: gt1989 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:18:32
Mkultra sent out an update yesterday that included this about GMK Nord, so I guess they've almost paid GMK:

"GMK Nord

We've been waiting forever for an invoice and finally our prayers were heard. The invoice has been received, payment is pending and to celebrate we've put up a limited number of extras already! Grab them while they're hot!"

Has any color matching been going on, or is GMK waiting until after they get paid to start that?  They've been really slow at color matching during the pandemic.  Gtrx?  Any comment?

Hey, CK has told me that gmk began color matching, although no timeframe as to when I'll be receiving samples. GMK has been pretty slow recently.

Glad to hear that we're in the color matching phase.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: pleasega on Tue, 08 December 2020, 05:33:39
will this have a 1 year old birthday celebration like dracc?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 08 December 2020, 06:25:38
will this have a 1 year old birthday celebration like dracc?
Naturally.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Duckstroyer on Mon, 11 January 2021, 12:23:35
Picked up a preorder extra from MKUltra!

Couldn't be more excited
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Invezting on Tue, 19 January 2021, 01:17:41
this on a navy board would be niceeeeeee
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Fklr on Tue, 19 January 2021, 03:25:29
Hi Invezting,

I bought gmk nord to use it in a ultramarine keyboard.
Ps: Are  you  from Portugal?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: uncleakamai on Sat, 06 February 2021, 18:12:07
this on a navy board would be niceeeeeee

I'm planning on putting these on my Deep Ocean Think6.5 v2 :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: -Jerry- on Sun, 07 February 2021, 04:35:49
this on a navy board would be niceeeeeee

Very definitely, I’ve got a ‘deep blue’ KBD8X MKII that I’ve got Oblivion on right now, but I think it’s going to look even better with Nord!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Duckstroyer on Sun, 07 February 2021, 12:50:26
this on a navy board would be niceeeeeee

I'm planning on putting these on my Deep Ocean Think6.5 v2 :)

Same board for me! Gonna look hot as hell
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Chippy on Thu, 11 February 2021, 20:18:33
Candykeys still says samples approved on their site, but I didn't think designer ever got samples? Is there any update on this?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 12 February 2021, 02:33:34
Candykeys still says samples approved on their site, but I didn't think designer ever got samples? Is there any update on this?

Hmm, I’d be inclined to believe CandyKeys typically when it comes to GMK sets - being about 1h30 away from the GMK factory. I always suspect that they get notified about changes to orders very quickly due to this. Though this is only my suspicion, hehe.

CandyKeys update from 9th January was that final sample sets are on the way to the designer.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 19 February 2021, 17:19:14
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: lz2019 on Mon, 12 April 2021, 21:46:13
does anyone know any status update of this set?
thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Fklr on Mon, 12 April 2021, 22:02:43
Gtrx on discord:
@everyone
Concerning GMK Nord updates: I'm sorry for going radio silent for a long time. From now on, I will focus on weekly updates every saturday.
Samples: Due to miscommunication with gmk,  I received samples of very old colors. R2 has been requested with up to date ones, so these ones aren't very representative of Gmk Nord. The alpha and mod colors are especially different. The only color that stayed the same is the green.
Deskmats: R1 samples have been rejected, as they weren't what I envisioned them and I am awaiting r2.
Thank you for supporting gmk nord heart
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Fklr on Mon, 12 April 2021, 22:05:33
Pic:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: sneekypoo on Mon, 12 April 2021, 22:34:11
Damn 10 months and still color matching. Guessing we won't see these this year.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: lz2019 on Mon, 12 April 2021, 23:39:03
Gtrx on discord:
@everyone
Concerning GMK Nord updates: I'm sorry for going radio silent for a long time. From now on, I will focus on weekly updates every saturday.
Samples: Due to miscommunication with gmk,  I received samples of very old colors. R2 has been requested with up to date ones, so these ones aren't very representative of Gmk Nord. The alpha and mod colors are especially different. The only color that stayed the same is the green.
Deskmats: R1 samples have been rejected, as they weren't what I envisioned them and I am awaiting r2.
Thank you for supporting gmk nord heart

Thanks!   It's disappointed this is still in color matching, but at least there will be weekly updates on discord, that's much better.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 13 April 2021, 03:44:22
Please not another Dracula, I can't.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 13 April 2021, 04:40:24
*bought both Dracula and Nord
*laughs and then cries
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 25 June 2021, 16:25:55
(https://i.postimg.cc/NB4XnfPQ/GMKnord-Status200710fin-Yext1.png)

More
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hpmfkz9w/GMKnord-Status200710fin-Next1.png)
<-- without extras

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pf5V0rn9/GMKnord-History210710fin-Yext.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: pandapau on Fri, 09 July 2021, 01:05:50
Is there like any updates to this? It's been a year.  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 09 July 2021, 03:07:55
Is there like any updates to this? It's been a year.  :-[

Most recent update from Grtx was two weeks ago:

(https://i.imgur.com/g9tTr26.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: lonalde on Fri, 16 July 2021, 21:48:12
I just realized I ordered the deskmat a year ago and forgot about it because its been so long lol
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 01 September 2021, 08:31:29
are there any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: TjarleN on Wed, 01 September 2021, 22:52:51
Last update on Discord is from the 25.08. "GMK: samples have shipped out from the factory"
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sun, 17 October 2021, 11:18:06
Bumping for an update~

Where's my Nord..  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: TjarleN on Sun, 17 October 2021, 23:11:49
Bumping for an update~

Where's my Nord..  :-[

The second round of color samples was confirmed to be at the lead vendor last week and is now on the way to gtrx. Since 7 of the 8 colors are not matched yet this will very likely take some more rounds... Lets just hope the next samples wont take ~8 months to arrive...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: r47z on Mon, 18 October 2021, 00:01:49
oh dear.. is it gonna beat dracula ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: FaIIen on Sat, 23 October 2021, 15:57:55
2023 say no more.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 23 October 2021, 16:02:59
Weren't we told we'd get weekly updates? what's notable is that MK Ultra said they weren't taking refunds on this one. Drop, CK, NK, Omni, and Kono have let people out of GB's that went long.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: stomaha on Fri, 29 October 2021, 06:43:35
The lack on communication on this really unprofessional. At this point, I think we're all expecting a Dracula - I just wish we weren't left to speculate without updates from the gb-runner.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Krazzios on Fri, 29 October 2021, 12:57:28
The lack on communication on this really unprofessional. At this point, I think we're all expecting a Dracula - I just wish we weren't left to speculate without updates from the gb-runner.

I mean, the main post says that more frequent updates can be found on his discord-server. (there are two of those btw, make sure to join the "v2" one)

The latest update came yesterday saying that r2 samples has arrived and that 2 of the 4 still not decided on have been approved.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jkim145 on Fri, 29 October 2021, 22:13:50
The lack on communication on this really unprofessional. At this point, I think we're all expecting a Dracula - I just wish we weren't left to speculate without updates from the gb-runner.

I mean, the main post says that more frequent updates can be found on his discord-server. (there are two of those btw, make sure to join the "v2" one)

The latest update came yesterday saying that r2 samples has arrived and that 2 of the 4 still not decided on have been approved.
"I mean", the discord link in the op is to the wrong one and all the links to the new one on the old discord are invalid.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: noorejji on Sat, 30 October 2021, 09:21:54
I thought it was in the rules that a GB runner update the GB thread.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: scoopbb on Sat, 30 October 2021, 14:00:35
this was always gonna take a while. lots of custom colors, gmk slow to send samples out, queue already long af. just relax, close your eyes and wake up in 2024 with your set
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: stomaha on Thu, 18 November 2021, 07:50:40
I would bet this delivers before the end of 2023, but who knows
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 28 December 2021, 18:50:49
News from the gtrx discord:

12/28: David from Candykeys said they’d received an additional round of samples and were sending them to gtrx. 5 colors remain unconfirmed. This is a little over 2 months from the last round of colors.

I have no involvement in this set, but think updates should be posted on geekhack if it’s to be used as an advertising tool.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 28 December 2021, 21:22:30
Any deskmat updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 28 December 2021, 21:42:34
Any deskmat updates?

Didn’t see anything new since the end of October update. Waiting for round 4, it said back then.

I still have no involvement in this set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Wed, 29 December 2021, 02:32:56
How long did Dracula take? Will this GB be the runnerup in longest GMK GB?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 29 December 2021, 07:53:12
Dracula fulfilled in the EU at 22 months from GB close, and about a month later in the USA.

This set is behind Draculas milestones. In May 2021 color matching had concluded for Drac and I had my set in my USA hands in early October about 5 months later. Dracula had undergone several more (3 or 4?) rounds of color matching at this time than Nord. Five colors remain unmatched with only 2 rounds for Nord and one has not even been seen yet (soon tho!). Rounds of color matching are taking over 2 months for a full cycle (samples go to the lead vendor which here is candykeys, those go to gtrx, get approved or rejected…repeat), consistent w the later rounds of Dracula which went faster than the earlier ones. If all 5 aren’t approved, two months for another cycle, 5 months after that would put it later than dracula.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Sat, 15 January 2022, 04:23:08
Any update on this set?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 15 January 2022, 05:29:41
News from the gtrx discord:

12/28: David from Candykeys said they’d received an additional round of samples and were sending them to gtrx. 5 colors remain unconfirmed. This is a little over 2 months from the last round of colors.

GTRX has the samples. Perhaps some more colors can be confirmed this round.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ChrisJoy on Sat, 05 February 2022, 04:45:41
Another Dracula no doubt.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 05 February 2022, 10:05:36
Why cant thread runners post on their own GB pages?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: stomaha on Sat, 05 February 2022, 16:23:45
It’s been a very busy 18 months for the gb runner
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ChrisJoy on Tue, 22 March 2022, 11:16:49
See you 3 months later.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 22 March 2022, 12:00:50
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation w this other than being in the buy

Gtrx received additional colors samples back in late October/early November. That got 3 of the 8 colors matched. The discord was told on March 4th that Gtrx had chosen new color standards to try and match the other 5, which is approximately a 4 month turnaround time for the designer to choose additional colors, with an additional month added on w lost mail prior to that. GMK will now produce new colors.

The following is my own opinion, based on GMK Andy’s estimated timelines and perceived odds of getting all 5 colors matched on the next round: this won’t ship this year

Edit: I’d asked on the discord if Gtrx had provided Ral plastic chips to GMK to match; to my knowledge I wasn’t answered. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Wed, 23 March 2022, 14:58:02
Edit: I’d asked on the discord if Gtrx had provided Ral plastic chips to GMK to match; to my knowledge I wasn’t answered.

Just a quick note on this: RAL doesn't make plastic chips for every color. The paper-based samples tend to be quite good (a lot better than Pantone's in terms of keeping the color close to what it will look like on a non-paper surface), though the plastic "standards" sometimes drift from the paper standards in color for RAL.

So in general, unless a designer has already seen a RAL plastic chip for their chosen color (and can confirm that it's what they want), they're better off sticking to the standard paper samples in the K7, D2, or similar.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: dededecline on Sun, 08 May 2022, 10:45:27
Update from the Discord server

(https://i.imgur.com/VaCnN9N.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Sun, 29 May 2022, 11:27:48
Nearly two years and this set still hasn’t even got past the colormatching phase. God is dead.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 29 May 2022, 13:26:32
I forgot I ordered this
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Jojjelito on Sun, 29 May 2022, 15:15:20
Lucky me. I once set reminders for the GB threads where I purchased something. Let’s see how long the color matching will go on for. I heard you can plan and execute manned missions in space while waiting for a set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sun, 29 May 2022, 17:33:11
Imagine if Reddit knew about this  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ABlazinBlueToe on Thu, 02 June 2022, 19:56:10
I just got an email from Candykeys that said "Your order has now entered the manufacturing stage. You will be informed when the order is shipped from the factory to us."

Does anybody know if it passed color matching or is that some canned response since I ordered recently?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 03 June 2022, 02:25:13
There is no discord update about all colors being matched; and they’re pretty good w the updates there.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: scie on Sat, 11 June 2022, 04:26:43
The status on candykeys also changed to manufacturing. https://candykeys.com/group-buys/gmk-nord
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: scoopbb on Sun, 12 June 2022, 10:55:09
(https://i.imgur.com/Ia9kUZp.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Sun, 12 June 2022, 11:52:24
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Ia9kUZp.png)


Round god-knows-what approaching the 2 year mark and he still “can’t decide”?

I guess we should at least be glad he isn’t outsourcing the colormatching to his Discord server like a particular other GB.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: TjarleN on Sun, 12 June 2022, 23:48:36
Round god-knows-what approaching the 2 year mark and he still “can’t decide”?

Actually it is just round 3 of samples and 6/8 colors are matched now which should be okay for 3 rounds. What is not okay is that 3 rounds took 2 years though!

The problem of dracula, masterpiece, sumi,... was that it took a lot of rounds to match some color(s), the problem here is that (especially the first) sample rounds took forever.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ks239395 on Sun, 26 June 2022, 17:12:11
lmao definitely forgot that I participated in this GB.
happy late two-year anniversary
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Wed, 03 August 2022, 10:01:36
Well, certainly hope this is shipping soon now that GMK has apparently lost their patience with the designer and isn't gonna entertain any more of his back-and-forth for free colormatching is done.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 05 August 2022, 07:13:46
I need to change address and I already forgot everything I ordered including this.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 16 August 2022, 19:20:46
Anyone wanna take my spot?
1. Base kit
2. Assembly kit
3. Novelty Kit
4. Spacebar kit
5. Deskmat (Dark)

I'll even let it go for less than I paid for...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: stomaha on Fri, 16 September 2022, 09:33:10
Per CandyKeys, color matching complete.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: AstraRus on Mon, 19 September 2022, 14:45:44
Anyone wanna take my spot?
1. Base kit
2. Assembly kit
3. Novelty Kit
4. Spacebar kit
5. Deskmat (Dark)

I'll even let it go for less than I paid for...

PM'd
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Thu, 06 October 2022, 06:06:06
Where the hell is this GB?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: TjarleN on Thu, 06 October 2022, 07:44:36
Where the hell is this GB?

Apparently in production queue xD
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: JapandiTech on Mon, 17 October 2022, 08:58:46
I want to buy someone's spot if someone is willing to sell it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 17 October 2022, 09:55:07
Ask on mechmarket discord, I think you’d be able to find someone who wanted off this wild ride.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: JapandiTech on Mon, 17 October 2022, 11:25:07
Ask on mechmarket discord, I think you’d be able to find someone who wanted off this wild ride.
Can you please link to the discord?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Thu, 27 October 2022, 14:54:10
Ask on mechmarket discord, I think you’d be able to find someone who wanted off this wild ride.
Can you please link to the discord?

Sent you a  PM
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: doggo1dance on Tue, 08 November 2022, 00:48:10
where is my damn set?????
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: TjarleN on Tue, 08 November 2022, 06:10:34
where is my damn set?????

in some queue
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/742679517679583252.webp?size=32&quality=lossless)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: MarkoFloro on Tue, 08 November 2022, 07:37:18
Bit late to the party but the artisans look gorgeous
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: RockWood on Mon, 23 January 2023, 13:12:24
Anyone with news?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 24 January 2023, 06:09:52
There’s nothing new on discord this year
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: mr_foggy on Thu, 26 January 2023, 02:59:26
(https://i.imgur.com/7WtujAd.png)

a little over 3 years since gb end. officially beat dracula IIRC.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Carcha on Thu, 26 January 2023, 03:37:15
a little over 3 years since gb end. officially beat dracula IIRC.
We're well past that point. Dracula was "only" two years. :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Thu, 02 February 2023, 20:16:06
So then... who has the longest GMK wait time?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 08 February 2023, 14:24:41
So then... who has the longest GMK wait time?
hyperfuse r1
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: zitres on Thu, 02 March 2023, 21:38:55
The ETA from me above is not recent anymore. A more sooner ETA in this month is what we are looking for.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: pandapau on Mon, 13 March 2023, 10:44:51
So uh, anything yet?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Tue, 14 March 2023, 02:04:49
So uh, anything yet?

I've heard it's supposedly shipping to vendors. Idk.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Sieglinde on Tue, 14 March 2023, 08:57:39
Zfrontier says they will have it next month.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Ranker2 on Thu, 16 March 2023, 03:12:44
Have Desk Mats and the Keebwerk artisans shipped yet?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Targa on Fri, 17 March 2023, 11:01:16
When someone will finally recieve their keycap set, please post some pictures. Everyone’s curious how similar to renders are colors, which they’ve decided to go with.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: pandapau on Sun, 26 March 2023, 21:14:14
Not my pics but from some users on discord and zFrontier. What is this???

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ankit on Sun, 26 March 2023, 22:24:43
 :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Sieglinde on Mon, 27 March 2023, 01:21:40
What the hell happened with the Alphas?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Mon, 27 March 2023, 02:12:21
Mr. gtrx how did this take you over two years to **** up this badly
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: SRTChrisS1 on Mon, 27 March 2023, 02:29:09
 :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Bachoo on Mon, 27 March 2023, 05:13:07
 :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 27 March 2023, 07:04:22
oh wow that's Necro levels of wtf
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 27 March 2023, 10:11:54
finally, oblivicon
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 27 March 2023, 10:57:14
oh wow that's Necro levels of wtf

>pulls mask off
>Gtrx was Jessica all along

At least plum and necro both stand as good sets even if quite different than the render. This looks like the alphas from one set and mixed w another’s mods.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Starston3 on Mon, 27 March 2023, 15:02:20
people gonna ask for lead vendor’s head on a stake
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Beesley on Mon, 27 March 2023, 15:15:09
Did they run out of blue?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: mr_foggy on Mon, 27 March 2023, 16:13:31
the meme continues
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: involuntarysoul on Mon, 27 March 2023, 18:23:01
what is color matching?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Targa on Mon, 27 March 2023, 21:08:56
Damn, these colors are completely different. Maybe in better lighting it will be closer to renders. Right now it looks like GMK Concrete and tar  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Tue, 28 March 2023, 03:11:44
bruh
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 29 March 2023, 00:31:25
yo what happened here
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 March 2023, 20:18:56
woof

any set that goes through a billion rounds of colormatching always seems to turn out ****ed up
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: 8um8lebee on Thu, 30 March 2023, 20:23:33
woof

any set that goes through a billion rounds of colormatching always seems to turn out ****ed up

Yeah red dragon getting dumped on too lol
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: involuntarysoul on Thu, 30 March 2023, 23:18:37
woof

any set that goes through a billion rounds of colormatching always seems to turn out ****ed up

the final version looks exactly like the rejected round 1 sample
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 31 March 2023, 01:25:31
My Assembly kit  :-[
 
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: DarKou on Fri, 31 March 2023, 01:37:00
Seriously?!

It's just a joke :'(


3 years of waiting for such a disgusting result?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Sieglinde on Fri, 31 March 2023, 11:14:31
My Assembly kit  :-[
 
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That sucks, maybe I should have gotten Dracula instead.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: MellonCaine on Sat, 01 April 2023, 14:40:33
O dear, this is not good at all...... I thought the renders and colors were lovely.... but this, this is not my set tbh.  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 01 April 2023, 22:36:32
extras on sale for far less than gb :) (https://mkultra.click/gb-gmk-nord-keycaps/)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 02 April 2023, 00:27:51
extras on sale for far less than gb :) (https://mkultra.click/gb-gmk-nord-keycaps/)

lmao. Now i dont even want to open my set when it arrives
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: involuntarysoul on Sun, 02 April 2023, 00:56:53
extras on sale for far less than gb :) (https://mkultra.click/gb-gmk-nord-keycaps/)

still too expensive, when striker, serika, and grand prix are at the same price
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Sun, 02 April 2023, 02:30:02
extras on sale for far less than gb :) (https://mkultra.click/gb-gmk-nord-keycaps/)

Quote
Designed by GTRX, the designer of successful PBT Hive - who is no stranger to making a great attractive set.

Quote
Color samples will be confirmed before manufacturing, CandyKeys will pay a visit to the factory if deemed necessary.

 :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: MellonCaine on Sun, 02 April 2023, 10:28:30

Quote
Color samples will be confirmed before manufacturing, CandyKeys will pay a visit to the factory if deemed necessary.

Did this happen??
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: loopaddiction on Sun, 02 April 2023, 18:23:29
Has anybody attempted to cancel and get a refund from their vendor before their order has shipped? I know every vendor is different, and we agree to non-cancelable terms, plus all the risk involved in joining GB's in the first place, blah blah etc...but this set appears to be a complete dud. Waiting all these years and paying all that money (this was a $$$ set too, mind you) for something that turned out this poorly feels wrong on every level.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: vinyldoodles on Mon, 03 April 2023, 15:10:33
I got shipping confirmation for this today. Can't quite believe it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 03 April 2023, 20:03:35
Lol
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Mon, 03 April 2023, 21:08:20
welp, my set arrived. can confirm it’s grey af

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 04 April 2023, 19:50:51
Ran outta color
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jani80k on Wed, 05 April 2023, 05:12:57
Just received mine and alphas are waaaayyy too bright ffs.
Let me guess.. the colormatching was done in a dark room?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Pach on Wed, 05 April 2023, 23:08:26
Oh boy, this is unfortunate

sorry in advance for wall of text, but this may be useful to some people

In my opinion, the renders might be at fault here. I'm not sure if GMK would try to deviate far from the official colors that they are referencing. Many of the cases of "color matching" disasters I've read about involve the designer literally telling GMK to change the original color codes they provided them because they weren't satisfied on how they perceived the individual samples from them (GMK Necro, GMK Bread, GMK Peaches n Cream(?)), but personally I believe that their colors should be accurate even the first time around especially if they are also using color measuring instruments. In this case it doesn't seem like that happened so it might lie in the renders' fault.

I think that in a lot of cases the darker colors when rendered in a virtual environment can cause them to look lighter than they actually look in real life under most lighting conditions. This, combined with the alphas being a tad darker seeming in the renders made the contrast between the alphas and mods in real life quite abrupt. If the designer or renderer realized this, adjustments could have been made to the renders so that they reflect how it is seen more in real life. Of course, its a group buy and people have already paid for the pixels they have looked at, so the "fairest" thing to do at that point was to try to bend the colors of single sample caps closer to the original renders shown.

The post on reddit that gained some traction is pretty unfortunate as it seems very desaturated, probably not how the set actually looks in real life (I hope, and based on other pictures). I'm basing these assumptions off of my own RAL deck that I compared colors with (280 20 10 and 240 60 10) so I'm assuming the final product uses colors very close to what I'm seeing in the deck, which is nowhere close to that level of (un)saturation.

I'm curious to see how the set looks outside in direct sunlight, since that can help brighten the dark modifiers and make the color more identifiable and may bring the contrast between the alphas and mods to a more acceptable level compared to the original renders. But that won't really make the situation much better since nobody is using their keyboard like that




Okay as I'm making this rant thing I literally just stumbled upon some kind of mystery that I need to solve (gmk bread deja vu (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107200.msg3094679#msg3094679)) and I might have just eaten my own words back at the start

I crossed out everything I was wrong on lol

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First, let's refer to the colors from the IC:
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(https://i.imgur.com/Hw9svbW.png)

As far as I know, it was never announced which specific colors were in the set. The modifier color would obviously be RAL 280 20 10, but the alphas color is a bit harder to determine. I believed this was a very important piece of information, so I reached out to the person who did the renders, and they told me the alphas in the renders were RAL 270 30 10. So, there's our baseline! Let's see how Gtrx matched these two colors specifically (spoiler: he didn't?)

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(https://i.imgur.com/UIenecd.png)

August 25, 2021: Grtx makes his first update post in his discord server with a timestamp and what looks to be two GMK Nord samples from 3/31/2021 (speaking of which, the Date above that reads 14.12.2020... does it really take GMK that long to send samples to the designer or is the 03-31-2021 date something else? idk, haven't gone through their process in a couple years so this is new to me

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(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880225174509740042/880225332500791346/unknown.png?width=1482&height=830)

Unfortunately the yellow sample's color code is obscured, but you can clearly see that the gray is RAL 240 60 10. So based on the renders, that should be the color of the alpha legends. This isn't too relevant, but if you've read to the end you would realize that the final alpha color used is closer in lightness to the renders' alpha legends than the renders' alphas lol

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(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/310058539647369217/904009814454177832/20211029_155139.jpg?width=1606&height=903)

These are the samples he posted on 10/30/2021 in his discord server, I'm assuming the original batch of samples. Can't say for sure, but the alpha and mod samples here seem like RAL 280 20 10 and RAL 270 30 10 keep reading...

So the relevant timeline goes like this:
11/04/2021: Gtrx receives/evaluates the first samples and approves the yellow, green, and pink. He states that the alphas and modifiers needs to be less saturated. Quote "New colors will be picked today/tomorrow"
03/04/2022: New colors are picked and sent to GMK for another batch of samples. Here's the result.

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(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880225174509740042/980196080023142470/sample2.jpg?width=1306&height=903)

05/28/2022: pictures of the new batch of samples in his discord server. The bottom right two are the ones of concern. Unfortunately it's not taken in the same condition as the first batch of samples, so I guess this photo is just here for reference. I would say that the modifier color looks less saturated in this image though.

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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880224344196907078/1091335220864749659/image0.jpg)

Now, this is the official render from GMK I got in Gtrx's discord server from their Candykeys rep. I don't know when they originally got this, it was posted 9/20/2022 but this would probably be the final colors before production started. some people are seeing this and bashing GMK for not having eyes and how does this look anything like the set and stuff but I can assure you GMK's renders are probably the last thing you want to base color opinions off of especially for dark colors

now wait

wait a second

look at the colors

alpha keys: RAL 250 50 10

modifier keys: RAL 260 30 05

:-[

Well looks like color codes were changed after all. Maybe this is actually just how it's usually done if you're not satisfied with R1 colors? Makes me think back to the whole thing with Omnitype and their super objective color science lab machines they use, in those cases I don't think they actually changed the color code but for smaller designers who don't have access to color machines they probably need to tell GMK to actually change to a different color code or else they would reject them because they don't have proof that the color isn't accurate.

I had to update this stuff several times... Once I found out what colors were used in the renders, this starts making a bit more sense, and at the same time, a bit less sense. Here's some basic RAL color information. The first number is the hue of the color in multiples of 10 (degrees). The second number is the lightness of the color in multiples of 10. The third number is the chroma of the color (basically saturation) in multiples of 5. So let's do some comparison...

Refreshing our minds: The colors used in the renders, what everyone bought the set for. I'm still not talking about the other colors, since I believe those problems if any pale in comparison to the main issue of alphas and mods here.

Alphas color: RAL 270 30 10       Mod color: RAL 280 20 10

Now, here's the catch. RAL 270 30 10 doesn't exist! Which means that it doesn't appear in the physical RAL color book. For some reason, that and other mysterious missing RAL colors appear in online/virtual (even official) libraries. So what I'm assuming is the colors were submitted to GMK, and GMK followed up with "this color doesn't exist." This is not particularly the fault of the person doing the renders. If a color a designer requests you render with exists in the virtual library you're using to render, wouldn't you also not bat an eye (if you didn't have a physical RAL deck to reference)?

What would be a logical course here? One would assume to pick the closest matching colors in terms of matching hue, lightness, and saturation. And what a perfect way to do so using RAL's intuitive color numbering system! Which is apparently not what Gtrx decided to do - so now using that same system, we can find out how off the final colors he chose actually are.

Final Alphas color: RAL 250 50 10       Final Mod color: RAL 260 30 05

If you understand how different these colors are, you would understand how the set turned out the way it did. So let me try to explain. From my observation, the main complaints are that "the alphas are too light," the set is "too gray," and "the modifiers are too dark." Let's dissect these one by one.

"the alphas are too light,"
Yeah, this one isn't too hard to dissect. Just look at the difference between the advertised render colors and the final alphas color (remember multiples of 10): RAL 270 30 10 vs RAL 250 50 10. That's 2 steps up in lightness, pretty damn big change in lightness to be making. As I said before, RAL 270 30 10 doesn't actually exist, so he would have been forced to pick a new color for the alphas regardless. But why make the new color so light? There's many other options that would have gotten close to RAL 270 30 10. Like maybe RAL 270 30 15. But I'm not going to look into what specific substitute would have been best because that's not my job here.

"too gray"
First off, don't trust pictures online to evaluate colors, especially that one famous one floating on reddit. Anyways, why so gray? Chroma is based on the last value of the RAL color. For the advertised render colors, the value is both 10. For the final colors used, alphas are 10 and mod is 05. Even though 05 is a step down in chroma, that shouldn't explain why the alphas look gray. To be honest, I don't have a good theoretical explanation for this. Remember that the original alpha color was supposed to be 2 steps darker than what actually was decided in the end? I think the sheer lightness difference of the final alphas (and the less saturated mod color doesn't help that case either) contributed to that "light gray alphas to dark gray mods" effect instead of "a not-too-contrasty two tone complement to the mod color," if you are getting my thinking.

"the modifiers are too dark."
I'm gonna pull something I said above down here:
"I think that in a lot of cases the darker colors when rendered in a virtual environment can cause them to look lighter than they actually look in real life under most lighting conditions."

Even though this section is crossed out above, I still think this holds truth. It's good that most renders are done in a perfect condition with perfectly placed lighting to illuminate the colors of the keyset well, which does help with portraying accurate colors. However, if not corrected manually, I believe that pretty dark colors like the one used in this set are often portrayed as lighter than they actually are in most real life lighting conditions. Looking back to the final modifier, let's pay attention to the lightness (middle value): Mod color: RAL 280 20 10, Final Mod color: RAL 260 30 05. You can see that the modifier color used the render is actually a step darker than the final color used. And some people say the final modifier color is still too dark? Well, what I just said plays a factor into this, but also perception. If you compare the original alpha and mod color (remember multiples of 10), the lightness between them is only 1 step apart (30 vs 20). Now comparing the new colors, they're 2 steps apart (50 vs 30). That's pretty much my reasoning here.

I haven't even mentioned the hue changes (first number), my guess is that it contributed a tiny bit to everything, maybe that extra sprinkle of "something doesn't look right" to the final colors.

I've attached some relevant images from my RAL deck. As always, these are pixels on a screen, so grain of salt here.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Pa7uCS3.png)

RAL 250 50 10 (final alpha color) vs RAL 270 30 15 (possible close match to advertised render alpha color)

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(https://i.imgur.com/AzPGDGS.png)

RAL 260 30 05 (final mod color) vs RAL 280 20 05 (advertised render mod color)

So what's the conclusion here? Honestly, I don't know why Gtrx decided to go with the colors he did, especially cranking that lightness slider on the alphas up. My personal guess is that after learning that RAL 270 30 10 did not exist, he tried to pick a new color. However, he might have tried to pick the new color based on the renders through his monitor instead of relying on a physical deck to choose a close match. Maybe held up RAL 250 50 10 from his deck up to his monitor, not paying attention to how objectively different it actually was, and said, "250 50 10 is quite accurate"

Not saying it's actually what happened, just my sort-of best guess of the mindset used.

In the end, this post is just my two cents having gone through the process myself, don't take my words as absolute as I'm not super familiar with color theory and what exactly happened to this set. I made this so hopefully people could try to understand better what may have happened and how it ended up like this. I remember actually liking the look of this set back then when I was relatively fresh to this scene and hoping it would turn out well, and I'm sad that it had to turn out like this after all this time waiting. I don't know the actual metrics of this, but it makes me think that sometimes when designers say that they need "another round of colors," it's not GMK's errors but a blunder of the designer, and sometimes they need to request a completely different color for GMK to make new samples. You can't tell GMK (or any other manufacturer probably in that regard) to "just make this color a little more desaturated" or "make this color a little lighter/darker." They work on data, so unless you have data to back up them not making the color you told them to accurately, they won't budge. That might be why for some sets you've seen that had to get multiple rounds, they have exhibited an effect of being interestingly or depressingly different.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: fireworm on Thu, 06 April 2023, 12:01:34
when designers say that they need "another round of colors," it's not GMK's errors but a blunder of the designer.

The major issue is that picking RAL's or Pantone's (that actually exist!) is a best guess in many cases to begin with.  How can anyone communicate to a manufacturer what color they want?  Some colorants in ABS keep it translucent, ABS has a natural color that needs to be countered, some colorants are banned, some colorants may make toxic gas in ABS, etc. etc. 

IMHO, I think it's asking too much of many of the designers around here to understand the plastic manufacturing process.

The point I see is that GMK and other Plastic MFR's won't even do color-matching until they get paid for the set as a whole.  Otherwise they'd be color-matching forever on sets that won't ever exist (because the colors will 'never match' instead of making actual keycaps). 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 April 2023, 13:00:15
when designers say that they need "another round of colors," it's not GMK's errors but a blunder of the designer.

The major issue is that picking RAL's or Pantone's (that actually exist!) is a best guess in many cases to begin with.  How can anyone communicate to a manufacturer what color they want?  Some colorants in ABS keep it translucent, ABS has a natural color that needs to be countered, some colorants are banned, some colorants may make toxic gas in ABS, etc. etc. 

IMHO, I think it's asking too much of many of the designers around here to understand the plastic manufacturing process.

The point I see is that GMK and other Plastic MFR's won't even do color-matching until they get paid for the set as a whole.  Otherwise they'd be color-matching forever on sets that won't ever exist (because the colors will 'never match' instead of making actual keycaps).

Just to be clear, no designers are ever expected to do the actual formulating to arrive at the desired color for manufacturing. There are "color houses" whose entire business is to formulate color concentrate mixtures that achieve the target color at a given loading concentration (sometimes you'll buy the resin pre-colored; no idea what GMK does, but that's really not important).

The designer's role is to ideally select the correct target color that the supplier will match (they will match whatever is provided, if physically possible). If it turns out that the color in real, physical form is not what the designer intended, then the dreaded "color matching" cycle begins. This is where a lot of inexperienced designers seem to get caught. Translating from a screen to physical form is not trivial, and physical samples are always going to make things easier. Without some guidance or experience it's very easy to mess this up. However, despite being hard, it is still part of the designer's job to get right.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Mon, 10 April 2023, 01:46:19
OMG. What a huge letdown. The vendors and designers know that as well. Probably why they're selling it at a loss.
Base kit was originally $135 during GB, now it's $67.25. WTF!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 April 2023, 11:22:32
OMG. What a huge letdown. The vendors and designers know that as well. Probably why they're selling it at a loss.
Base kit was originally $135 during GB, now it's $67.25. WTF!

tbf mkultra is shutting down and selling everything at "factory price"
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 April 2023, 11:24:33
when designers say that they need "another round of colors," it's not GMK's errors but a blunder of the designer.

The major issue is that picking RAL's or Pantone's (that actually exist!) is a best guess in many cases to begin with.  How can anyone communicate to a manufacturer what color they want?  Some colorants in ABS keep it translucent, ABS has a natural color that needs to be countered, some colorants are banned, some colorants may make toxic gas in ABS, etc. etc. 

IMHO, I think it's asking too much of many of the designers around here to understand the plastic manufacturing process.

The point I see is that GMK and other Plastic MFR's won't even do color-matching until they get paid for the set as a whole.  Otherwise they'd be color-matching forever on sets that won't ever exist (because the colors will 'never match' instead of making actual keycaps).

Just to be clear, no designers are ever expected to do the actual formulating to arrive at the desired color for manufacturing. There are "color houses" whose entire business is to formulate color concentrate mixtures that achieve the target color at a given loading concentration (sometimes you'll buy the resin pre-colored; no idea what GMK does, but that's really not important).

The designer's role is to ideally select the correct target color that the supplier will match (they will match whatever is provided, if physically possible). If it turns out that the color in real, physical form is not what the designer intended, then the dreaded "color matching" cycle begins. This is where a lot of inexperienced designers seem to get caught. Translating from a screen to physical form is not trivial, and physical samples are always going to make things easier. Without some guidance or experience it's very easy to mess this up. However, despite being hard, it is still part of the designer's job to get right.

for context hoffman is/used to be a plastics engineer so i trust him on this stuff over most others

get physical plastic chips and have GMK match to those, we've known for years that this is the best way to do it
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Tue, 11 April 2023, 12:57:12
OMG. What a huge letdown. The vendors and designers know that as well. Probably why they're selling it at a loss.
Base kit was originally $135 during GB, now it's $67.25. WTF!

tbf mkultra is shutting down and selling everything at "factory price"
Pour one out for the homie
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Pach on Thu, 13 April 2023, 00:51:33
OMG. What a huge letdown. The vendors and designers know that as well. Probably why they're selling it at a loss.
Base kit was originally $135 during GB, now it's $67.25. WTF!

tbf mkultra is shutting down and selling everything at "factory price"
Pour one out for the homie

 :'(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: zitres on Thu, 13 April 2023, 16:29:45
I took some photos and will do more to show how it looks. I am very happy with it.
For now i made a setup with neutral artificial light and put a RAL Chart and GMK Sample Rings in front so you can check that it is as neutral as possible. Will add more pictures soon.

(https://i.imgur.com/wP4DnZK.jpg)

More: https://imgur.com/a/QAJwkBU (https://imgur.com/a/QAJwkBU)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: tactilesbad on Fri, 14 April 2023, 09:20:04
way closer to the renders than the garbage pictures on reddit

who would have thought???
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Sat, 15 April 2023, 02:34:23
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such render match, very wow

no amount of gaslighting is going to make this set any less grey than it turned out, and it shouldn't take a dslr and postproduction to make it remotely worth looking at

but if you want to continue enabling bad gb runners, be my guest
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: dantambok on Sat, 15 April 2023, 23:09:55
I took some photos and will do more to show how it looks. I am very happy with it.
For now i made a setup with neutral artificial light and put a RAL Chart and GMK Sample Rings in front so you can check that it is as neutral as possible. Will add more pictures soon.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wP4DnZK.jpg)


More: https://imgur.com/a/QAJwkBU (https://imgur.com/a/QAJwkBU)

nice try buddy. that set looks like a gmk dracula clone
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: tngpq on Sun, 16 April 2023, 00:49:19
Closeness to the render aside, the physical product looks dull.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: renderling on Wed, 19 April 2023, 11:04:50
Does anyone know if MK Ultra has started shipping Nord yet?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: cepate11 on Tue, 25 April 2023, 09:43:33
I can say I haven’t received my MKUltra order yet, and was only told i missed the refund window when I asked about that. A follow up on ETA for my shipping was not replied to.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Rhienfo on Tue, 25 April 2023, 21:21:29
Does anyone know if MK Ultra has started shipping Nord yet?

MK Ultra is shutting down I'm pretty sure, you should still get it though. I never personally ordered from MK Ultra but from what I heard they never did have the best track record so it might take a while (on top of the fact that the person running MK Ultra had health complications, which obviously slows them down), you should contact them for updates on shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: thornkin on Fri, 12 May 2023, 00:58:44
Anyone hear from mkultra about Nord yet?  I mailed them and didn't hear back.

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Cookiecurls on Wed, 17 May 2023, 22:03:49
Anyone hear from mkultra about Nord yet?  I mailed them and didn't hear back.

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Nothing 😞
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 18 May 2023, 06:20:42
MKUltra was shipping keyboard foam 6+ months after orders -before- both the pandemic and health complications, and not everyone got their orders. So this may happen, but I dont think anyone should be surprised that it's going slowly.

If you're sad you missed the full nord color matching / delays, you could consider:
https://kono.store/products/kds-nord
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Thu, 18 May 2023, 21:17:09
MKUltra was shipping keyboard foam 6+ months after orders -before- both the pandemic and health complications, and not everyone got their orders. So this may happen, but I dont think anyone should be surprised that it's going slowly.

If you're sad you missed the full nord color matching / delays, you could consider:
https://kono.store/products/kds-nord
Gah! Those legends look like my little 12-year-old's keyboard. NSFW.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Sieglinde on Thu, 18 May 2023, 23:06:53
MKUltra was shipping keyboard foam 6+ months after orders -before- both the pandemic and health complications, and not everyone got their orders. So this may happen, but I dont think anyone should be surprised that it's going slowly.

If you're sad you missed the full nord color matching / delays, you could consider:
https://kono.store/products/kds-nord

A shame about the legends on the mods.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: thornkin on Thu, 01 June 2023, 11:41:10
Is mkultra in the wind now?

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 01 June 2023, 12:47:36
MKU replies sometimes on discord; last 5/27. The coupla people I know who ordered from there haven't gotten their stuff yet. Did they have deskmats or artisans, which wont ship because those arent there yet? I dunno. mine didn't.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: thornkin on Thu, 01 June 2023, 15:46:04
Thanks.  Good to know there is still someone active there.

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Ranker2 on Thu, 06 July 2023, 08:13:17
Has anyone received their GMK Nord kits from MKUltra yet?  Thinking of pulling the trigger on a charge back since they've been noncommunicative and I can't imagine how they wouldn't have received their shipment from GMK by now. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 06 July 2023, 09:49:19
Has anyone received their GMK Nord kits from MKUltra yet?  Thinking of pulling the trigger on a charge back since they've been noncommunicative and I can't imagine how they wouldn't have received their shipment from GMK by now.

On their website it says that orders are shipping but IDK if they actually are. As I already discussed in the thread MKUltra is shutting down soon as the guy running it had health complications, so that might be the issue (No excuse for the lack of updates/not shipping products as if you should make someone else handle orders if you can't do it, especially for what seems to be in stock extras)

You should try to message them on the MK Ultra discord if you haven't already and if there is no communication and clearly nothing is being done, then it's good to chargeback, this is if you really want the keyset though, just make sure you still have that option of a chargeback at hand.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Ranker2 on Thu, 06 July 2023, 10:50:37
Happen to have the link for MKUltra discord?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 06 July 2023, 11:45:00
Happen to have the link for MKUltra discord?

It's not found directly on the website, but through some news update I did find it. As I said before, it was health complications that are affecting orders, especially with stuff like ongoing medical bills (which american bills are not cheap due to the system of course)

People have already asked questions about it, and apparently they are slowly being fufilled and that you should "sit tight", if you haven't emailed first I suggest doing before commenting on the support page on the server. I did see in the gmk nord page that someone did get their order so I think they are shipping them out just slowly. Just make sure you can always charge back.

The server link - https://discord.com/invite/8Nc5aqZXRN
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Pheyn on Thu, 06 July 2023, 14:02:43
Has anyone received their GMK Nord kits from MKUltra yet?  Thinking of pulling the trigger on a charge back since they've been noncommunicative and I can't imagine how they wouldn't have received their shipment from GMK by now.

I received mine about a week ago. I read on GTRX's discord that a few others had received them as well.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: noahf on Thu, 06 July 2023, 18:57:53
I received my kits a few weeks back. Im assuming owner is still dealing with illness and slowly shipping out. I wouldnt do a chargeback now as its been 3 years and its actually shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Ranker2 on Fri, 07 July 2023, 21:39:27
I'll hold off another two weeks since I paid with Amex and have no time limit to worry about but it'd be nice to get an email saying he'll get them out.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 08 July 2023, 14:39:56
Just make sure your order’s not waiting on a deskmat or some other ancillary product. If it is and you just want your caps maybe you can just ask for the caps instead.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: tacahiroy on Sat, 08 July 2023, 20:15:01
Has anyone got deskpads?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: jimboytacos on Mon, 10 July 2023, 19:26:07
Just make sure your order’s not waiting on a deskmat or some other ancillary product. If it is and you just want your caps maybe you can just ask for the caps instead.


Are deskmats holding back some orders?

I was actually the first order placed for this GB when it went live on MK Ultra. Even confirmed by Eric himself.
I haven't received my order yet. And no answer from the man either when asked for a refund.

Kinda bummed - I've even been to his shop a couple of times and helped out with customer orders, had lunch together, etc. 

:(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Ranker2 on Wed, 12 July 2023, 05:38:40
I've got no desk mat or artisan in my order.  Still haven't received mine yet. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 12 July 2023, 21:25:36
Just make sure your order’s not waiting on a deskmat or some other ancillary product. If it is and you just want your caps maybe you can just ask for the caps instead.


Are deskmats holding back some orders?

I was actually the first order placed for this GB when it went live on MK Ultra. Even confirmed by Eric himself.
I haven't received my order yet. And no answer from the man either when asked for a refund.

Kinda bummed - I've even been to his shop a couple of times and helped out with customer orders, had lunch together, etc. 

:(

Yes, on discord he’s been responsive and said many orders that weren’t waiting on deskmats had been sent out, and there was no ETA on deskmats. I’d be surprised if there was money for a refund but if you wanted to waive the deskmat which doesn’t match the render or the caps…maybe you could actually get the caps.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: the_onlyhope on Mon, 28 August 2023, 01:28:59
Did anyone receive their GMK Nord sets with Deskmat from Candykeys? I see it in-stock on their side  :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: DarKou on Tue, 03 October 2023, 03:25:02
Did anyone receive their GMK Nord sets with Deskmat from Candykeys? I see it in-stock on their side  :(

Last news from Candykeys (11th september) :

Quote
Hey DarKou, not long until its done, I will inform when you have it coming.

But.. nothing since...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Wed, 04 October 2023, 02:18:03
Still haven’t received the keebwerk artisan either. Best GB ever.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Pandamom98 on Wed, 04 October 2023, 08:08:03
Im still waiting on my MKultra order from when he announced the sale....
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: involuntarysoul on Wed, 04 October 2023, 15:29:39
Im still waiting on my MKultra order from when he announced the sale....

he is MIA for 3 months now, better charge back before it is too late
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Keebwerk on Sat, 14 October 2023, 14:20:21
Still haven’t received the keebwerk artisan either. Best GB ever.

Incase the info didnt reach everyone.
Artisans were shipped out a few months ago to the vendors
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: DarKou on Sat, 28 October 2023, 17:19:26
Did anyone receive their GMK Nord sets with Deskmat from Candykeys? I see it in-stock on their side  :(

Last news from Candykeys (11th september) :

Quote
Hey DarKou, not long until its done, I will inform when you have it coming.

But.. nothing since...

And... still waiting ><
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: kronograf on Thu, 02 November 2023, 08:53:52
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/17m0vl4/psa_mkultra_has_shut_down/
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 02 November 2023, 17:29:45
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/17m0vl4/psa_mkultra_has_shut_down/

Was gonna post this but someone already did, don't think it needs to be said but chargeback immediately.

I'm just disappointment that he still allowed in stock orders, despite knowing that he couldn't fulfill them (at least that's what I took out of this). I do think it was health issues combined with his already spotty track record that started this mess, but maybe he thought he could make money off them, turning it into an exit scam.

Hopefully people can get their money back.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Nord | GB CLOSED
Post by: Pandamom98 on Thu, 02 November 2023, 22:07:38
Apparently Erik has been more active in the designer's server for nord more than his own server and uhhhh yikes. Its no wonder he said no vendor wants to work with him. Alot of his messages show him being an *******