[IC] Fallacy - An Aluminum Alice Layout Board (Group Buy Date Announced)

[Esheu2]

The Fallacy

People were calling Alice clones "Falice". Sounded a lot like "Phallus" to me. Friend told me that wasn't a good idea. Fallacy it is.

Group Buy Date: January 25th, 2020. 5PM PST.
GB Post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104300.0

Interest Check Form:
https://forms.gle/9dJJL3cx34cppmsu7

Prototype Pictures



Buy Details
To make the buy more manageable for me, there will be 50 units. Limit one per person. FCFS

Features

• Top Mount
• Anodized 5052 Aluminum for the Top and Bottom Case
• Sandblasted Brass Weight
• 6.5 Degree Typing Angle
• 16.5mm Front Typing Height
• USB Mini port
• PCB Compatible With QMK
• PCB features flex cuts
• Brass weight spans the entirety of the alpha cluster
• Side cutouts for grip

I chose to go with a relatively low typing angle at 6.5 degrees and front lip height of 16.5mm for my own comfort. I have found that my preferred range for typing angles is between 5 degrees and 7.5 degrees.
Any lower feels awkward. Any higher results in strain on my wrists. Similarly, a typing height of over 20mm results in my wrists losing contact with my desk, forcing me to keep my hands floating. I find this tiring so I made the typing height as low as possible.

Supported Layouts

Will have standard Alice supported layouts

• Split/normal backspace
• Split/normal right shift
• Stepped/normal capslock

Plate

The plate will be the standard 1.5mm thickness. It will be compatible with the standard Alice plate.
There will be a few choices for plate material:

• Aluminum
• Brass
• POM Plastic

PCB

• QMK Compatible
• USB Mini port
• Flex Cuts

Designed by Trifelife

The board is also able to accept standard Alice PCBs if you already have those on hand.

Weight

• "Fallacy" engraving
• Sandblasted
• Internally secured by screws
• Alpha cluster has brass under it for acoustics

GIF of weight:https://i.imgur.com/yXv2Cm0.mp4

I enjoy patina so there will be no coating added. End users can apply a layer of wax or something if they would like to prevent patina from forming.





Colors

• Black
• Silver
• Navy
• Pink

Price (not inclusive of any shipping or fees):
$420 for top + bottom + weight + PCB + POM/Alu plate (+$15 for brass)
$50 for additional PCB
$30 for additional POM or Aluminum plate
$45 for additional Brass plate

FAQ

Q: Polycarbonate?
A: No.

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More Information and Updates

Discord Server Invite: https://discord.gg/pYVsseU
Please join the Discord server and subscribe to the !fallacy role if you would like to get updates on the project as soon as possible.

Special Thanks

Choobies, Trifelife, Exfinite (Vov), and Warren for helping me prototype and giving me feedback.
Trifelife for designing the PCB.
Yuktsi for open sourcing his Alice files and giving me the okay to manufacture this keyboard.

[isaackang7]

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[XtReeM1337n355]

I think you might need to check your discord link again. Also, would you consider a USB C port instead of mini?

[Esheu2]

I think you might need to check your discord link again. Also, would you consider a USB C port instead of mini?

Fixed I think. Thanks!

Youtube video is set to private cannot see it


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Oops! Public now.

[octix]

Definitely interested!

[LXVRGS]

id lose the weight engraving personally

[Popopro]

id lose the weight engraving personally

Same, not a fan of the text.

[FinalEleven]

I am totally in.

Not too fond of the font for the weight engraving though.

[Pwner]

Great to finally see something fresh, new and exciting.

[dantambok]

oh wow

[roguesystem087]

Forget the IC!!!! Lets goooooooooooooo XD omgarddddddddd X3

[CrazyNun]

Would love to see this in white

[LightningXI]

Can one use the PCB this has for a regular Alice?

[Solotov]

+1 for the new design of the weight if possible 

[cdhoffmann]

Oooo yeeeees


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[adxlk]

Can one use the PCB this has for a regular Alice?

Yeah,

The board is also able to accept standard Alice PCBs if you already have those on hand.

[Vigrith]

Great to finally see something fresh, new and exciting.

LOL

[lolafineday]

Great to finally see something fresh, new and exciting.

LOL

LOL

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[Mcnos]

You got me at Blue Gray

[DukeEsquire]

Would love to see people do at least something different with these Alice clones.

I guess it’s easier to just use the files without changing anything.

[Mcnos]

Would love to see people do at least something different with these Alice clones.

I guess it’s easier to just use the files without changing anything.

Check out the Majaphit or the EM7 in that case. People like the original look of the Alice, I see TKLs looking the same everyday but there's not an outcry about that.

[victorpre]

Question now;
Unlimited GB?

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[eniigma]

this looks nice, but I do hope you got permission from Yuktsi to run this. good luck!

edit: nvm, saw the last line.

[nickaster1]

That weight is super nice!

[Aevyn]

"Similarly, a typing height of over 20mm results in my wrists losing contact with my desk, forcing me to keep my hands floating."

SMH. Proper typing means your wrists should be floating. And for that reason, I'm out.

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[Aevyn]

Would love to see people do at least something different with these Alice clones.

I guess it’s easier to just use the files without changing anything.

Check out the Majaphit or the EM7 in that case. People like the original look of the Alice, I see TKLs looking the same everyday but there's not an outcry about that.

There should be outcry about TKLs being boring af. Same ol' boring Alice. I appreciate the idea with the flex cuts. Not sure how helpful it is on only two rows. Also like the idea of the weight expanding whole alpha cluster.

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[DukeEsquire]

Would love to see people do at least something different with these Alice clones.

I guess it’s easier to just use the files without changing anything.

Check out the Majaphit or the EM7 in that case. People like the original look of the Alice, I see TKLs looking the same everyday but there's not an outcry about that.

1. There should be. I’ve certainly brought it up.

2. There is a difference between similar TKLs and literally using the same files.

[FunTyme]

Interested 100%

[ullr]

Looks pretty damn good. If I were in the market for another Alice riff, I'd be looking at this one.

[AlcoholEnthusiast]

Don't love the font engraving. Also don't love not offering coating for the brass weight. You might like patina, which is fine. But many others don't. Having a clear coat option or something similar shouldn't be too hard to add for people who want it.

[lolafineday]

How many units will be avail?

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[beekey]

I think you might need to check your discord link again. Also, would you consider a USB C port instead of mini?

+1

[Esheu2]

Can one use the PCB this has for a regular Alice?

It is compatible with standard Alice PCB's as well.

Would love to see this in white

Unfortunately, it is not possible to anodize aluminum white. And, at least for now, I will not be looking into e-coating. So, no white for now. Sorry!

Would love to see people do at least something different with these Alice clones.

I guess it’s easier to just use the files without changing anything.

There are design differences from the Fallacy and the Alice. It sounds more like you want a completely different board/layout. And if that is the case, then I understand that this is not something that is for you.

I think you might need to check your discord link again. Also, would you consider a USB C port instead of mini?

+1

No USB C for this. I want to retain compatibility for what is now the "standard" for Alice PCBs. I might have added USB C compatibility if the Project Keyboard Alice PCB USB C variant had a top mounted port instead of a bottom mounted port. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

How many units will be avail?

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~50

"Similarly, a typing height of over 20mm results in my wrists losing contact with my desk, forcing me to keep my hands floating."

SMH. Proper typing means your wrists should be floating. And for that reason, I'm out.

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I never claimed to have "proper" typing. If you have any feedback for the design rather than my typing, you can feel free to voice that instead. And no, "ree another alice" is not feedback. An Alice layout is fundamentally what this board is. If you do not like or want that, you do not have to give this IC anymore of your attention.

[Mcnos]

Would love to see people do at least something different with these Alice clones.

I guess it’s easier to just use the files without changing anything.

Check out the Majaphit or the EM7 in that case. People like the original look of the Alice, I see TKLs looking the same everyday but there's not an outcry about that.

1. There should be. I’ve certainly brought it up.

2. There is a difference between similar TKLs and literally using the same files.

I agree there should be more differences with the TKL but there isn't quite a lot you can with with 84-87 keys with a classic top face without it looking like a monster overall exception of F13  I don't design boards but I do appreciate a classic style

and to be fair, the top piece may be the same but the original Alice case doesn't have a wedge cutout, and if Yuktsi gave him the OK I don't see an issue with him wanting to run something like this for people who want it. We see it with key sets all the time that look stupid similar but doesn't seem to bother people.

[DJ Shoko]

That pink looks amazing, I really want a pink Alice like board after seeing it in the LA meetup yesterday.

[lolafineday]

Please include compatibility for top mount usb c for future proof and for me as I have some usb c pcbs

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[Esheu2]

Please include compatibility for top mount usb c for future proof and for me as I have some usb c pcbs

Wait are there top mount USB C Alice PCBs being publicly made?

[johnnysstash]

def in for one. hoping for optional name on the weight as i am not a fan of the font either. i am sure with as many people have said that, there will be a resolution. with that said i am forsure in for atleast one!

[Loveyuri]

100% in. Hopefully I'll get in.

[yuppie]

Can you add an arrow cluster?

[packman86]

Very neat Alice adaptation.

I think the weight corner radius looks a bit "fat" compared to the tight corner of the case.



EDIT: agree with above statements. The weight engraving doesn't do this board any favors.

[r4wromg]

Please include compatibility for top mount usb c for future proof and for me as I have some usb c pcbs

Wait are there top mount USB C Alice PCBs being publicly made?

HomerowCo's Lubrigante uses a top mount USB C PCB, but unsure of the availability of those going forward.

[Esheu2]

Can you add an arrow cluster?

here you go: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99203.0

[lolafineday]

Please include compatibility for top mount usb c for future proof and for me as I have some usb c pcbs

Wait are there top mount USB C Alice PCBs being publicly made?

No but I joined a private gb for some

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[regionfree]

Let the haters hate, and the thread crappers spread their crap. Even with that, your ~50 units will be sold out in no time.

In for one, hoping to get 2.

Also, suggestion for the script for the bottom weight logo is attached.

[thnick]

I just pre-ordered 2 of the "ALICE PCB REV2" (USB-C) and 1 POM plate and 1 fiberglass plate. Will your case fit any of those?

[mrkantz]

I just pre-ordered 2 of the "ALICE PCB REV2" (USB-C) and 1 POM plate and 1 fiberglass plate. Will your case fit any of those?

No, the PCB you ordered has the USB port on the component side (bottom) of the PCB while this case supports the original Alice PCB with it on the top.

[thnick]

No, the PCB you ordered has the USB port on the component side (bottom) of the PCB while this case supports the original Alice PCB with it on the top.

 

[Mcnos]

Let the haters hate, and the thread crappers spread their crap. Even with that, your ~50 units will be sold out in no time.

In for one, hoping to get 2.

Also, suggestion for the script for the bottom weight logo is attached.

(Attachment Link)

Bruh, just keep it to one

[djmantis]

Hope to see the price for this go down, especially if we have to provide our own PCB. Here is what the original Alice went for: "$463 for case + plate + weight + PCB (Pre-soldered with controller parts, LED's resistors, and diodess)". Cheers!

[cdhoffmann]

Hope to see the price for this go down, especially if we have to provide our own PCB. Here is what the original Alice went for: "$463 for case + plate + weight + PCB (Pre-soldered with controller parts, LED's resistors, and diodess)". Cheers!

This includes a pcb.


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[lolafineday]

Feel like pcb should be optional addon, most have alice pcbs and configs already. And if they need they can just order off projectkb.

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[lolafineday]

Feel like pcb should be optional addon, most have alice pcbs and configs already. And if they need they can just order off projectkb.

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Actually I guess this pcb is unique so it might make sense to include.

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[Esheu2]

I just pre-ordered 2 of the "ALICE PCB REV2" (USB-C) and 1 POM plate and 1 fiberglass plate. Will your case fit any of those?

Plates, yes. PCB's no.

Let the haters hate, and the thread crappers spread their crap. Even with that, your ~50 units will be sold out in no time.

In for one, hoping to get 2.

Also, suggestion for the script for the bottom weight logo is attached.

(Attachment Link)

Bruh, just keep it to one

Limit 1 per person.

Hope to see the price for this go down, especially if we have to provide our own PCB. Here is what the original Alice went for: "$463 for case + plate + weight + PCB (Pre-soldered with controller parts, LED's resistors, and diodess)". Cheers!

The kit includes a PCB.

[KingOfMemes]

Hopefully the price is steep so I won't have to fight for 50 units.

[Mcnos]

Hopefully the price is steep so I won't have to fight for 50 units.

Let's fight anyway 

[Esheu2]

Hopefully the price is steep so I won't have to fight for 50 units.

Are you hinting that I should increase the pricing? I would be ok with that 

[switchnollie]

"Similarly, a typing height of over 20mm results in my wrists losing contact with my desk, forcing me to keep my hands floating."

SMH. Proper typing means your wrists should be floating. And for that reason, I'm out.

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aveyn is out huh. And for that reason, I'm in, nice kb chief

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[regionfree]

Hopefully the price is steep so I won't have to fight for 50 units.

Are you hinting that I should increase the pricing? I would be ok with that 

You should price this so what you get is worth your time and effort.

[NathanielGoodtimes]

Hopefully the price is steep so I won't have to fight for 50 units.

Are you hinting that I should increase the pricing? I would be ok with that 

You should price this so what you get is worth your time and effort.

Make it a bazillion dollars!!!

[MisterKnife]

I’m in

[DJ Shoko]

I’m in

In for a battle royale that is.

[Mekuno]

Can't wait to see more of the proto. Pink looks really nice.

[Poesjuh]

I’d say $400 range is already more than enough for a top mount board. Inflating the price just to create a luxury item only the rich can afford... ah well, my wallet will speak and do nothing I guess.


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[thearctican]

I’d say $400 range is already more than enough for a top mount board. Inflating the price just to create a luxury item only the rich can afford... ah well, my wallet will speak and do nothing I guess.


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What sort of mount would you prefer? Top mount is the best I've used. Most gasket boards are a joke, bottom mount isn't bad. Get a POM plate cut for it.

On the board itself: thank you for not making it polycarbonate. If I wanted a plastic board I'd buy a Realforce.

[lolafineday]

I’d say $400 range is already more than enough for a top mount board. Inflating the price just to create a luxury item only the rich can afford... ah well, my wallet will speak and do nothing I guess.


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What sort of mount would you prefer? Top mount is the best I've used. Most gasket boards are a joke, bottom mount isn't bad. Get a POM plate cut for it.

On the board itself: thank you for not making it polycarbonate. If I wanted a plastic board I'd buy a Realforce.

Dang plastic shaming... polycarbonate is epic plastic!

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[Esheu2]

Added manufacturer photos of the blue gray prototype to the main post!

[nickaster1]

The Fallacy

People were calling Alice clones "Falice". Sounded a lot like "Phallus" to me. Friend told me that wasn't a good idea. Fallacy it is.

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Features

• Top Mount
• Anodized 5052 Aluminum for the Top and Bottom Case
• Sandblasted Brass Weight
• 6.5 Degree Typing Angle
• 16.5mm Front Typing Height
• USB Mini port
• PCB Compatible With QMK
• PCB features flex cuts
• Brass weight spans the entirety of the alpha cluster
• Side cutouts for grip
• Pricing: most likely mid/low $400's (tentative estimate CAN CHANGE)

I chose to go with a relatively low typing angle at 6.5 degrees and front lip height of 16.5mm for my own comfort. I have found that my preferred range for typing angles is between 5 degrees and 7.5 degrees.
Any lower feels awkward. Any higher results in strain on my wrists. Similarly, a typing height of over 20mm results in my wrists losing contact with my desk, forcing me to keep my hands floating. I find this tiring so I made the typing height as low as possible.

Supported Layouts

Will have standard Alice supported layouts

• Split/normal backspace
• Split/normal right shift
• Stepped/normal capslock

Plate

The plate will be the standard 1.5mm thickness. It will be compatible with the standard Alice plate.
There will be a few choices for plate material:

• Aluminum
• Brass
• POM Plastic

PCB

• QMK Compatible
• USB Mini port
• Flex Cuts

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The board is also able to accept standard Alice PCBs if you already have those on hand.

Weight

• "Fallacy" engraving
• Sandblasted
• Internally secured by screws
• Alpha cluster has brass under it for acoustics

GIF of weight:https://i.imgur.com/yXv2Cm0.mp4

I enjoy patina so there will be no coating added. End users can apply a layer of wax or something if they would like to prevent patina from forming.

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Colors

• Black
• Silver
• Blue Gray
• Pink

FAQ

Q: Polycarbonate?
A: No.

More Information and Updates

Discord Server Invite: https://discord.gg/CxjYT58
Please join the Discord server and subscribe to the !fallacy role if you would like to get updates on the project as soon as possible

Prototypes are almost done already. I will provide updates when I get them in my hands.

Special Thanks

Choobies, Trifelife, Exfinite (Vov), and Warren for helping me prototype and giving me feedback.
Trifelife for designing the PCB.
Yuktsi for open sourcing his Alice files and giving me the okay to manufacture this keyboard.

That blue is so hot jeez

[Poesjuh]

I’d say $400 range is already more than enough for a top mount board. Inflating the price just to create a luxury item only the rich can afford... ah well, my wallet will speak and do nothing I guess.


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What sort of mount would you prefer? Top mount is the best I've used. Most gasket boards are a joke, bottom mount isn't bad. Get a POM plate cut for it.

On the board itself: thank you for not making it polycarbonate. If I wanted a plastic board I'd buy a Realforce.

O I'm not saying that top mount is bad by any means What I meant was that a topmount usually requires less material and a easier to manufacture plate. For that reason top mounts are usually a bit cheaper to manufacture than fancy gasket mounts with all sorts of extra stuff that comes with it.

[Esheu2]

I’d say $400 range is already more than enough for a top mount board. Inflating the price just to create a luxury item only the rich can afford... ah well, my wallet will speak and do nothing I guess.


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What sort of mount would you prefer? Top mount is the best I've used. Most gasket boards are a joke, bottom mount isn't bad. Get a POM plate cut for it.

On the board itself: thank you for not making it polycarbonate. If I wanted a plastic board I'd buy a Realforce.

O I'm not saying that top mount is bad by any means What I meant was that a topmount usually requires less material and a easier to manufacture plate. For that reason top mounts are usually a bit cheaper to manufacture than fancy gasket mounts with all sorts of extra stuff that comes with it.

Let me clear some things up:

• The price hiking was a joke. I'm not going to make the base cost higher than the $400's range.
• The plate mounting style does not significantly change any costs. This board was more expensive for me to prototype than another design of mine that utilized isolation gasket mounting. The main contributors to costs are machining time (usually proportional to size) and material.

[papayapyjamas]

cant join the discord channel.

[Esheu2]

cant join the discord channel.

Weird. The link was working for me. Posted a new one regardless. LMK if it still doesn't work!

[xchangmanx]

I'm behind this, but any chance on having a blank weight with no name?

[Esheu2]

I'm behind this, but any chance on having a blank weight with no name?

I have to admit that I am very hesitant to remove the engraving despite people expressing their distaste for it. I personally (and obviously there's a lot of bias to it) really like it and believe that it will look better in real life compared to the renders. So, I want to wait to receive the prototypes and take better pictures of the actual weight.
If people still dislike how it looks, then I will likely relent and just have a blank weight.

[kaisn]

I don't mind the engraving at all. However it's kinda bland imo

[VXQN]

I'm okay with the engraving as a concept, but I definitely think the script should be re-worked to flow a little bit better (especially the F).

[Thighs]

A custom engraving would be amazing. Take my money.

[p_blaze]

Are the colors final? It kills me that no boards i want are in purple anymore

[Esheu2]

Are the colors final? It kills me that no boards i want are in purple anymore

Yes the colors are final.

[jimboytacos]

Is there a TBD date for launch? Or will this information all be shared on Discord first?

[Esheu2]

Is there a TBD date for launch? Or will this information all be shared on Discord first?

No date yet. GB launch date should be decided before the New Year.

[Esheu2]

I have received the prototype units. Pictures have been added to the main post. Will hopefully have somebody else with a better camera than I do take pictures and a typing test for me soon-ish.

[neojonathan]

I love the pink color !!!

[vaughno]

If the funds are right then I'll probably get in on the pink one 

[KingOfMemes]

will there be limited stock? Or will this be an unlimited buy

[nickaster1]

will there be limited stock? Or will this be an unlimited buy

I don’t see why this will be unlimited. He’ll prolly keep it down to a manageable size so nothing goes out of hand

[KingOfMemes]

will there be limited stock? Or will this be an unlimited buy

I don’t see why this will be unlimited. He’ll prolly keep it down to a manageable size so nothing goes out of hand

Nice, I've been thirsting for a good race :smiling_imp:

[Esheu2]

will there be limited stock? Or will this be an unlimited buy

Limited. ~50 units or so plus extras that will be sold off after everything is done.

[KingOfMemes]

will there be limited stock? Or will this be an unlimited buy

Limited. ~50 units or so plus extras that will be sold off after everything is done.

Bless up, thanks.

[Esheu2]

Hey guys! Please fill it out if you're interested. I'd like to gather some data and feedback.
Interest Check Form: https://forms.gle/9dJJL3cx34cppmsu7

[Solotov]

So, there are only 2 options for weight engraving: current design and blank?
Would prefer some engraving over blank. Any chance for an alternative design?

[lolafineday]

Blank would look hot asf, just look at the rukia weight!

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[swangful]

i think the weight just needs a better logo. having the word fallacy isnt the problem IMO, its just the font/logo.

[sarsaparillagorilla]

1000% interested can't wait loved but never got the chance to get the Alice and this could be a more than adequate alternative

[Esheu2]

i think the weight just needs a better logo. having the word fallacy isnt the problem IMO, its just the font/logo.

From what I have gathered, it seems like the controversial part of the engraving is the letter "F".
The issue is that this is the only cursive script font I've found that I felt tastefully did the letter "F" (imo) while keeping everything easily machinable.

[swangful]

i think the weight just needs a better logo. having the word fallacy isnt the problem IMO, its just the font/logo.

From what I have gathered, it seems like the controversial part of the engraving is the letter "F".
The issue is that this is the only cursive script font I've found that I felt tastefully did the letter "F" (imo) while keeping everything easily machinable.

thats fair, i didnt think about keeping things machinable. i saw the suggestion of the backward F like fender, seems like a neat idea. personally, the logo isn't a deal breaker for me. looks good with or without 

[yui_]

cad files for the weight should be released, so that i can get a custom weight with phallus on it.
looks great though !

[JJ]

A custom engraving would be amazing. Take my money.

+1 for custom engraving for the weight. It makes it a custom and unique piece.

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[KingOfMemes]

A custom engraving would be amazing. Take my money.

+1 for custom engraving for the weight. It makes it a custom and unique piece.

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I, too, would be down for a custom engraving of a Phallus on my weight

[Esheu2]

Group Buy Date: January 25th, 2020. 5PM PST.

Price (not inclusive of any shipping or fees):
$420 for top + bottom + weight + PCB + POM/Alu plate (+$15 for brass)
$50 for additional PCB
$30 for additional POM or Aluminum plate
$45 for additional Brass plate

[victorpre]

Group Buy Date: January 25th, 2020. 5PM PST.

Price (not inclusive of any shipping or fees):
$420 for top + bottom + weight + PCB + POM/Alu plate (+$15 for brass)
$50 for additional PCB
$30 for additional POM or Aluminum plate
$45 for additional Brass plate

Will def try to join. Usually not lucky on FCFS but let's see.

Is it going to be through Google forms?

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EDIT: just saw on discord that details will come later

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[Esheu2]

Is it going to be through Google forms?

Yes.

[NotBing]

This is so nice, hoping that I can get one!

[trungminhtp]

nice

[TAAZ_ltd]

I'm new at this. How can I give you my money and place an order ?

[KingOfMemes]

I'm new at this. How can I give you my money and place an order ?

It's a race. There will be a google form that opens on the 25th of January at 5PM pst. It it will be fields such as name, paypal email, username, colorway, and extras. Since there is only 50 units being sold, you will be racing others for those spots. Assuming you get one, you will be invoiced later via the paypal account you put into the form

[TAAZ_ltd]

Thanks for the feedback.

I pre-ordered an Alice PCB (USB-C) and a plate (POM) recently from mykeyboard.eu (proxy). The Fallacy's PCB is using USB-mini. Could the cut for the port interfere with a USB-C port ?

[Esheu2]

Thanks for the feedback.

I pre-ordered an Alice PCB (USB-C) and a plate (POM) recently from mykeyboard.eu (proxy). The Fallacy's PCB is using USB-mini. Could the cut for the port interfere with a USB-C port ?

The Fallacy will not accept a USB-C PCB. The POM plate should work fine.

[Esheu2]

Group Buy Post up: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104300.0

[r13lbag]

im sold