Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 28 December 2017, 09:42:15
Plate and PCB files open sourced here (https://github.com/TriangleLab/AL1-PCB-and-Plate)
(https://i.imgur.com/KoocNs3.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/q7POYcu.png)
Interest Checked (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93203.0)
Features
- Fully programmable by TMK
- 6061 aluminum case, 6063 aluminum plate, brass weight
- USB Type C
- Detachable WKL blockers
- North facing or south facing LEDs are all supported by the PCB
MOQ and Price
MOQ 30: $290- MOQ 40: $275
- MOQ 50: $260
- Laser engraving service: $14
If another MOQ is met after you paid the invoice, you will be refunded the price differences.
The CNC and anodizing service are provided by a factory locally near Alsoran in China. The PCB is designed by me and I'm not making profit from this GB. That's why we can keep the price low.
TODO List
Alsoran designed the caseI designed the PCBCase prototype finished https://imgur.com/a/eFlWaPCB prototype tested https://imgur.com/a/PLWoFIC finishedModified the LED positionsAdded split BS on the PCBTwo types of plates designedGB openedManufacturing casePCB finishedAnodizing finished- QC and packing
Shipping
This delivery service will be provided by DHL for most countries.
- UK: $62
- Germany, France: $53
- US: $52
- Canada: $56
- Australia: $42
- Vietnam: $70
- Republic of Korea: $48
- HongKong: SF express 'Cash on Delivery'
- For other countries, I'll need to ask for quotes
Timeline
- GB ends on: 10 days after GB opened, or, whenever I found MOQ 50 is reached
- Lead time: 2-3 months.
Options
Color: We can provide 13 colors in maximum but there will be only 5 preset combinations by default. Each color combination has one color for top and bottom case, and another color for the plate. If you pay additional $28, you can freely choose 3 colors for top case, bottom case, and plate.
Plate: There're two types of plates. Choose the first one if you don't know what's the difference.
Find detailed options and place your order here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Ca_097_CwPlRfq5NvvAg7GUOVvqHelYAy9FhuAXqyRg)
Spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BXmZeepM7tC3DJpRPJ71lfzce6jVZVs__ucfqSSVqZA)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sun, 31 December 2017, 00:45:14
As always, caveat emptor (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0).
Post by: floris on Sun, 31 December 2017, 01:28:22
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 31 December 2017, 01:42:50
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 02:14:55
also, do you have the layout for both plates? I'm not so sure how the right split shift will look like? is it 1.75u + 1u?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 02:23:07
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 02:41:53
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 31 December 2017, 04:54:23
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 06:55:19
Will you offer the blockers shown in the pictures as an option?
Check the list of features...
- Fully programmable by TMK
- 6061 aluminum case, 6063 aluminum plate, brass weight
- USB Type C
- Detachable WKL blockers
- North facing or south facing LEDs are all supported by the PCB
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 31 December 2017, 07:03:17
Got a grey one, should go well with Burgundy R2 I think.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 31 December 2017, 07:29:34
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 31 December 2017, 07:33:17
Interesting that there are no pitchforks about how similar to black bird this looks.It's just a layout. The sticking aspect of Duck's design is on the case sides, not the layout.
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Post by: Petch on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:07:00
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:10:24
I don't understand why the plate colour is some random colour. Is there an option to have it plain silver or the same colour as the case without paying $28?I too wish this were the case.
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Post by: Kafka on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:30:45
I don't understand why the plate colour is some random colour. Is there an option to have it plain silver or the same colour as the case without paying $28?I too wish this were the case.
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Yea same
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:34:51
is there a way to commit when it hits 50MOQ?
also, do you have the layout for both plates? I'm not so sure how the right split shift will look like? is it 1.75u + 1u?
Sorry, no way to commit.
Split right shift is 1.75u+1u, the only correct way to me.
Where will you be shipping from?
My friend alsoran will ship boards from Chongqing, China.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:40:38
I don't understand why the plate colour is some random colour. Is there an option to have it plain silver or the same colour as the case without paying $28?
The preset colors are the combinations Alsoran likes. He couldn't provide all the combinations apparently. It's just a way to keep this GB simple.
Silver or same color with the case shouldn't add complexity too much. Just Pm me if you need that. I'll update the order info.
Post by: homerowco on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:47:06
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 31 December 2017, 08:51:32
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 31 December 2017, 09:23:42
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 31 December 2017, 09:43:04
Are the LED holes being centered like was discussed in IC thread?
He said that that had already been done
Post by: ullr on Sun, 31 December 2017, 09:48:32
I’m pretty sure I entered at like 3:30 AM EST but I didn’t get an email or anything, and I’ve thought about it and I’d like to pony up the $28 for “custom colors”
Post by: MegalaDump on Sun, 31 December 2017, 10:06:01
Any way to know if/when you’re in or change your order?
I’m pretty sure I entered at like 3:30 AM EST but I didn’t get an email or anything, and I’ve thought about it and I’d like to pony up the $28 for “custom colors”
This. Should we PM you for option changes or wait for an email?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 10:18:56
Any way to know if/when you’re in or change your order?
I’m pretty sure I entered at like 3:30 AM EST but I didn’t get an email or anything, and I’ve thought about it and I’d like to pony up the $28 for “custom colors”
This. Should we PM you for option changes or wait for an email?
I've pmed for changes, OP mentioned an order spreadsheet will be coming.
Post by: forumusername on Sun, 31 December 2017, 11:07:19
I don't understand why the plate colour is some random colour. Is there an option to have it plain silver or the same colour as the case without paying $28?
The preset colors are the combinations Alsoran likes. He couldn't provide all the combinations apparently. It's just a way to keep this GB simple.
Silver or same color with the case shouldn't add complexity too much. Just Pm me if you need that. I'll update the order info.
unfinished silver or same as #2 color option?
Post by: AlexG on Sun, 31 December 2017, 11:23:53
Post by: xZ3ROx on Sun, 31 December 2017, 13:17:02
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Post by: forumusername on Sun, 31 December 2017, 13:25:35
If I want the black case with the brass plate instead of the red plate, I have to pay an extra $28 for that combo or do I choose the option of "extra brass plate + PCB"???I think that's meant to be brass weight?
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Post by: forumusername on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:12:23
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Post by: Petch on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:46:06
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:47:29
This. Should we PM you for option changes or wait for an email?
PM for changes. I'll update the form and release an anoumous spreadsheet.
unfinished silver or same as #2 color option?
#5 color
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:49:14
Are there brass plates? Didn't see an option for it.
Brass plate is only available in the "additional brass plate + PCB" combo.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:55:52
I guess it will reach 50 within 10 days, so I'll send out emails and invoices later.
Feel free to pm me if you want to make changes.
Post by: Petch on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:57:05
No chance of getting a single brass plate instead of aluminium? I don't really need a second pcb/plateAre there brass plates? Didn't see an option for it.
Brass plate is only available in the "additional brass plate + PCB" combo.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:02:07
No chance of getting a single brass plate instead of aluminium? I don't really need a second pcb/plateAre there brass plates? Didn't see an option for it.
Brass plate is only available in the "additional brass plate + PCB" combo.
This, I would rather pay extra for the brass plate than have to pay extra for another brass plate + pcb when I would have no need for a RED aluminum plate
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Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:03:30
I feel the same way. I'd love an aluminum to brass upgrade option.No chance of getting a single brass plate instead of aluminium? I don't really need a second pcb/plateAre there brass plates? Didn't see an option for it.
Brass plate is only available in the "additional brass plate + PCB" combo.
This, I would rather pay extra for the brass plate than have to pay extra for another brass plate + pcb when I would have no need for a RED aluminum plate
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Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:15:19
Thirded. If an upgrade from alu to brass becomes available, I'd be interested. I have no use for two plates and PCBs.I feel the same way. I'd love an aluminum to brass upgrade option.No chance of getting a single brass plate instead of aluminium? I don't really need a second pcb/plateAre there brass plates? Didn't see an option for it.
Brass plate is only available in the "additional brass plate + PCB" combo.
This, I would rather pay extra for the brass plate than have to pay extra for another brass plate + pcb when I would have no need for a RED aluminum plate
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Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:56:25
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 31 December 2017, 18:07:52
Post by: vtachkov on Sun, 31 December 2017, 18:34:50
Post by: Petch on Sun, 31 December 2017, 18:36:11
Is the same workshop that anodized the boards from the TKL GB (see here https://imgur.com/a/bJPfF) doing the anodizing for the AL1? I love the blue on the boards (see second and last pic) so if the number 8 color sample is the same I might want to update my order to go with blue.Not the same blue, I asked in the IC :(
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 31 December 2017, 18:47:48
Is the same workshop that anodized the boards from the TKL GB (see here https://imgur.com/a/bJPfF) doing the anodizing for the AL1? I love the blue on the boards (see second and last pic) so if the number 8 color sample is the same I might want to update my order to go with blue.It was mentioned in the IC that some of those pictures are renders. By the look of the surface it’s on that one might be a render. If it’s not a render I’m right there with you. I want that color.
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 20:47:46
Is the same workshop that anodized the boards from the TKL GB (see here https://imgur.com/a/bJPfF) doing the anodizing for the AL1? I love the blue on the boards (see second and last pic) so if the number 8 color sample is the same I might want to update my order to go with blue.
where is the link to that TKL board?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 01 January 2018, 00:44:02
Is the same workshop that anodized the boards from the TKL GB (see here https://imgur.com/a/bJPfF) doing the anodizing for the AL1? I love the blue on the boards (see second and last pic) so if the number 8 color sample is the same I might want to update my order to go with blue.
where is the link to that TKL board?
it was china only
Post by: floris on Mon, 01 January 2018, 04:09:22
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 01 January 2018, 08:19:38
I'd like to make some explanations on why we charge for customization of colors and the lack of flexibility of options. In most CNC/anodizing factories in China, they deal with very large orders every day. When they are asked to manufacture only several brass plates, or to anodize one color for only several parts, they not only charge you more, but also treat you with poor manners. Sometime they don't even accept the order. Alsoran will be the one who deal with these problems. He honestly provided all the possible options the factory can provide. He should be rewarded for the extra work he will do.
The current rules/options for this GB were determined by considering the number of orders, price, options, costs of risks. There're always tradeoffs but this is our decision. I hope you can understand.
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 01 January 2018, 08:23:31
How will the brass (plate and weight) be treated? Is it polished, sealed or just raw?
It's raw by default. Alsoran mentioned he might be able to find a factory the seal them but he's uncertain.
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 01 January 2018, 09:31:54
Post by: vtachkov on Mon, 01 January 2018, 11:28:16
Is the same workshop that anodized the boards from the TKL GB (see here https://imgur.com/a/bJPfF) doing the anodizing for the AL1? I love the blue on the boards (see second and last pic) so if the number 8 color sample is the same I might want to update my order to go with blue.Not the same blue, I asked in the IC :(
Damn, I missed that. I already have enough black keyboards so I want to try something new. Maybe the red then...
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 02 January 2018, 02:35:27
Also why philips screws for brass plate tho? :(
Thanks
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 02:55:46
Option 2, non compatible, can only be split.
Post by: Petch on Tue, 02 January 2018, 03:40:41
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 02 January 2018, 05:43:47
Post by: floris on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:44:51
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:51:30
What kind of stabilizers do I need for this board? Pcb or plate mount?
pcb, you can tell by the cutout shape
Post by: floris on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:06:50
What kind of stabilizers do I need for this board? Pcb or plate mount?
pcb, you can tell by the cutout shape
Thanks, good to know.
Post by: ullr on Tue, 02 January 2018, 17:17:26
I want all black, to clarify, which two people currently are marked as receiving at no additional charge.
Post by: Petch on Tue, 02 January 2018, 18:18:22
What’s up with the order sheet? Why are there a lot of entries with color combinations not listed as one of the five choices (a lot of all gray and all black, etc.) marked as no additional charge, and I am still marked as a preset combination (grey case, red plate) but I am marked as to be charged extra?
I want all black, to clarify, which two people currently are marked as receiving at no additional charge.
I can't see any custom colours without a charge? If you mean for the plate, you can PM to have the plate the same colour as the case OR silver at no extra cost
Post by: ullr on Tue, 02 January 2018, 18:38:56
Post by: afrokobe on Tue, 02 January 2018, 19:00:26
Post by: xZ3ROx on Tue, 02 January 2018, 19:02:07
Sorry guys. There won't be brass plate option.
I'd like to make some explanations on why we charge for customization of colors and the lack of flexibility of options. In most CNC/anodizing factories in China, they deal with very large orders every day. When they are asked to manufacture only several brass plates, or to anodize one color for only several parts, they not only charge you more, but also treat you with poor manners. Sometime they don't even accept the order. Alsoran will be the one who deal with these problems. He honestly provided all the possible options the factory can provide. He should be rewarded for the extra work he will do.
The current rules/options for this GB were determined by considering the number of orders, price, options, costs of risks. There're always tradeoffs but this is our decision. I hope you can understand.
is there an option to upgrade the plate to brass? rather purchase another set of plate and pcb?
Read his reply
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Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 02 January 2018, 20:24:06
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 January 2018, 20:27:00
Interesting that there are no pitchforks about how similar to black bird this looks.
In the IC thread, one person checked with the Duck guy and he was OK with this. Apparently he cares more about the case design then the layout itself.
not quite correct
more info here
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7n8q07/gb_al1_details_inside/ds033mu/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7n8q07/gb_al1_details_inside/ds033mu/)
but as i said there, it's a moot point
and "the duck guy" is called duck
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 02 January 2018, 20:32:13
Interesting that there are no pitchforks about how similar to black bird this looks.
In the IC thread, one person checked with the Duck guy and he was OK with this. Apparently he cares more about the case design then the layout itself.
not quite correct
more info here
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7n8q07/gb_al1_details_inside/ds033mu/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7n8q07/gb_al1_details_inside/ds033mu/)
but as i said there, it's a moot point
and "the duck guy" is called duck
Yeah, heh, as you can see, I deleted/edited my post just before you quoted me. Realized I didn't have enough information. My bad. Cheers.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 January 2018, 20:34:08
Interesting that there are no pitchforks about how similar to black bird this looks.
In the IC thread, one person checked with the Duck guy and he was OK with this. Apparently he cares more about the case design then the layout itself.
not quite correct
more info here
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7n8q07/gb_al1_details_inside/ds033mu/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7n8q07/gb_al1_details_inside/ds033mu/)
but as i said there, it's a moot point
and "the duck guy" is called duck
Yeah, heh, as you can see, I deleted/edited my post just before you quoted me. Realized I didn't have enough information. My bad. Cheers.
no worries, i've done the same before
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 02 January 2018, 21:17:51
Can we get a picture of both plates? I understand the differences, and take no offence from this, I just want to check everything will fit (no stabiliser wires getting caught like in early KBD75s for example)
Yes, here are the links:
https://imgur.com/ysGmxMf
https://imgur.com/i3pSPza
You reckon I could get a Raw AL1? I have a local place that could cerakote it for me.
Yes, but the price won't change.
Not so sure about this layout. It's something like one column thinner than a full size, yes?
No, it's two columns thinner actually.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 02 January 2018, 21:19:03
Can we get a picture of both plates? I understand the differences, and take no offence from this, I just want to check everything will fit (no stabiliser wires getting caught like in early KBD75s for example)
Yes, here are the links:
https://imgur.com/ysGmxMf
https://imgur.com/ysGmxMfYou reckon I could get a Raw AL1? I have a local place that could cerakote it for me.
Yes, but the price won't change.Not so sure about this layout. It's something like one column thinner than a full size, yes?
No, it's two columns thinner actually.
The second link did not copy, by the way :thumb:
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 02 January 2018, 21:21:52
The second link did not copy, by the way :thumb:
My mistake. Updated Thanks for catching that.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 02 January 2018, 21:25:15
Post by: homerowco on Wed, 03 January 2018, 04:37:32
I've sent emails to everyone who joined this GB. Please DM me if you didn't receive the email.
Does the PCB support holtites?
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 03 January 2018, 08:34:33
I've sent emails to everyone who joined this GB. Please DM me if you didn't receive the email.
Does the PCB support holtites?
It supports holtitles but I wouldn't recommend you to install holtites. The plates are switchtop removable type, which means they are not super tight if you don't solder the switches.
Post by: floris on Thu, 04 January 2018, 01:36:04
Post by: Oatburner on Thu, 04 January 2018, 07:32:51
Sent you a PM, but I just got an email saying that my paypal invoice was refunded?
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 04 January 2018, 08:36:38
According to the order form it includes led diffuser. Does this mean I will have to provide my own led’s for the indicator lights? If so what type of led’s do I need?
The diffusers are for the three LED indicators. LEDs will be included.
Edit: disregard, I just saw the email explaining what happened.
Sent you a PM, but I just got an email saying that my paypal invoice was refunded?
Yes. Alsoran was not familiar with Paypal and made a mistake. He refunded several payments and will re-send invoices to make it right. Sorry for the troubles.
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 04 January 2018, 19:35:19
Alsoran just told me he placed an order for materials of 60 cases.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Thu, 04 January 2018, 19:37:17
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Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:05:17
Does anyone have an example of something that has been engraved on a board? I'm trying to understand what can be engraved and the best place...
Alsoran said the legends can be engraved any place on the board (e.g. on the weight, under the indicator LEDs in the front). If you just want to engrave legends, you need to tell me the characters, font, and position. If you want to engrave a figure, you also need to provide an AI file.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:14:12
Does anyone have an example of something that has been engraved on a board? I'm trying to understand what can be engraved and the best place...
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the TGR logo
the mira logo
360c
etc etc
Post by: TeHao on Fri, 05 January 2018, 02:27:21
Post by: odd on Fri, 05 January 2018, 16:32:51
Post by: Oatburner on Fri, 05 January 2018, 16:41:03
I have not gotten a new invoice yet after the first one was refunded, what's up with that?
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 05 January 2018, 19:39:52
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 05 January 2018, 19:50:00
Is anodizing color #4 more yellow or kind of like a neon green?
from what i can tell from their past boards, it's about the same color as margarita mix, if that makes sense
Post by: TriangleLab on Sat, 06 January 2018, 09:06:07
Manufacturing: Materials have been ordered. Alsoran paid the factory with his own funds. Manufacturing has been started.
Invoice: Don't worry if you haven't received the invoice. Alsoran is frequently visiting the factory to make sure everything goes well. He's not able to send invoices in the following days. It won't affect your spot or the delivery date.
Post by: floris on Sat, 06 January 2018, 12:12:12
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 06 January 2018, 12:22:54
I have an invoice and the dollar amount seems high (140 MOQ+US shipping is $340.08 instead $327) I also would like to add something to my order what is the preferred way to communicate PM or email?
edit: if it is currency difference can I request to be billed in the foreign currency visa has better exchange rates than paypal :P
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 06 January 2018, 13:00:26
Thank you for the update.
I have an invoice and the dollar amount seems high (140 MOQ+US shipping is $340.08 instead $327) I also would like to add something to my order what is the preferred way to communicate PM or email?
edit: if it is currency difference can I request to be billed in the foreign currency visa has better exchange rates than paypal :P
There's a 4% PayPal fee.
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 06 January 2018, 13:53:58
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 08 January 2018, 18:28:18
edit: if i want to submit a change, should i just send a new form?
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 08 January 2018, 20:33:10
submitted my order few days ago.
edit: if i want to submit a change, should i just send a new form?
Just DM me or send me an email.
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 08 January 2018, 21:09:42
Manufacturing: all the materials have been cut to pieces and are ready for feature processing.
Invoice: Alsoran will be sending out the left invoices in one day or so.
Post by: Trente on Mon, 08 January 2018, 22:31:55
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 09 January 2018, 07:15:33
Just wondering if it is possible to ship the board to somewhere in China? Or I should go on Taobao to find the GB link?
Yes, but I don't know the details of the Chinese GB. Alsoran's QQ id is: 508881408. You can ask him directly.
(https://i.imgur.com/12f8LF2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KPDE20Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JjWG0a4.jpg)
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Post by: MegalaDump on Tue, 09 January 2018, 19:41:50
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Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 09 January 2018, 21:18:17
It is coming along nicely! Any idea what the total weight is?
About 5.5 lbs without assembly.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 09 January 2018, 21:19:04
For those who joined, I'll ask alsoran to send invoice.
I'll keep you updated through emails. The leadtime will be much shorter than estimated.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 01:12:23
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 11 January 2018, 13:21:58
Post by: Petch on Thu, 11 January 2018, 13:56:21
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 11 January 2018, 15:32:23
TriangleLab, did you get any more pictures of the anodizing yet?
Anodizing won't be so fast. Normally anodizing is the last process after CNC and bead blasting. I'll keep you updated and post some photos when we get there.
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 12 January 2018, 05:36:41
Just a quick question regarding the Engraving service.
Where would the engraving on the board be exactly?
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 12 January 2018, 08:03:37
Paid! Looking forward to this board.
Just a quick question regarding the Engraving service.
Where would the engraving on the board be exactly?
Laser engraving is pretty flexible. You can basically choose any position on the board for engraving.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sat, 13 January 2018, 22:10:15
(https://i.imgur.com/qN6Skoz.jpg)
CNC of all top cases are finished. I'm surprised that alsoran is doing these so fast.
Post by: Petch on Sun, 14 January 2018, 07:38:02
Post by: Oatburner on Sun, 14 January 2018, 07:43:45
Are they just stacked on top of each other Those are gonna get scratched
I think the typical process is that they get sanded/polished next to eliminate any imperfections, then anodized and dyed.
Post by: Petch on Sun, 14 January 2018, 08:47:02
Ah, I thought that would have been done by the CNC guys :DAre they just stacked on top of each other Those are gonna get scratched
I think the typical process is that they get sanded/polished next to eliminate any imperfections, then anodized and dyed.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 14 January 2018, 09:11:46
Ah, I thought that would have been done by the CNC guys :DAre they just stacked on top of each other Those are gonna get scratched
I think the typical process is that they get sanded/polished next to eliminate any imperfections, then anodized and dyed.
bead blasting is the process that eliminate imperfections and make a good texture on the surface. That will be done right before anodizing for the best results.
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 17 January 2018, 05:50:58
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 17 January 2018, 05:53:24
Were their pictures of the two plates? I swear there was, just can't find them now.Not cut photos but these - https://imgur.com/a/eFlWa
Post by: Oatburner on Mon, 22 January 2018, 16:02:57
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 23 January 2018, 13:33:18
Not sure if this has been addressed before, but what will the packaging and box for these be like?
will be packaged with EVA foams
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 23 January 2018, 21:57:51
(https://i.imgur.com/L5RUDsd.jpg)
The CNC of all the parts have been finished. However the funds in Alsoran's Paypal account has been frozen. He's not able to pay the factory the rest payment and get the cases out of the factory. The funds can be released as late as late February, which is still in the range of the estimation of lead time.
Alsoran said he'll try to borrow some money from friends and pay the factory. At least I'm not gonna make sure the Paypal protection wont expire.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Mon, 29 January 2018, 07:34:48
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 02 February 2018, 20:05:22
All the parts are ready for anodizing. Alsoran found a factory can make this color. He has sent an AL1 for anodizing for this color. If the result is good, you will have opportunity to change to this color if you like.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 February 2018, 21:09:59
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RzyO3ZO.jpg)
All the parts are ready for anodizing. Alsoran found a factory can make this color. He has sent an AL1 for anodizing for this color. If the result is good, you will have opportunity to change to this color if you like.
good LORD that's nice
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 02 February 2018, 21:11:26
Oh wow, what color is that exactly? Like a deep grey or blue? Or is it black?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RzyO3ZO.jpg)
All the parts are ready for anodizing. Alsoran found a factory can make this color. He has sent an AL1 for anodizing for this color. If the result is good, you will have opportunity to change to this color if you like.
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Post by: Oatburner on Fri, 02 February 2018, 21:31:35
Post by: xZ3ROx on Fri, 02 February 2018, 23:10:12
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Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 03 February 2018, 04:29:29
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Sat, 03 February 2018, 04:56:56
Post by: vtachkov on Sat, 03 February 2018, 09:29:07
Post by: Petch on Sat, 03 February 2018, 13:57:10
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RzyO3ZO.jpg)
All the parts are ready for anodizing. Alsoran found a factory can make this color. He has sent an AL1 for anodizing for this color. If the result is good, you will have opportunity to change to this color if you like.
Yes PLEASE
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 04 February 2018, 17:55:50
Post by: skaloola on Fri, 09 February 2018, 08:43:43
Post by: odd on Thu, 15 February 2018, 12:09:38
TriangleLab, did you get any more pictures of the anodizing yet?
Anodizing won't be so fast. Normally anodizing is the last process after CNC and bead blasting. I'll keep you updated and post some photos when we get there.
That blue is amazing, I'll switch for sure if that color is offered
Post by: noricon on Sun, 18 February 2018, 16:49:10
Post by: Visionaire on Sun, 18 February 2018, 17:44:35
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 26 February 2018, 14:55:44
Post by: noricon on Tue, 27 February 2018, 21:45:45
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 28 February 2018, 00:17:36
Yeah, there hasn't been any news for a while and I do know that anodization takes a while it shouldn't be this long before an update.
We just came out of LNY, so there should be an update soon.
Some regions celebrate it through this week as well, but not Guangzhou.
Post by: Petch on Wed, 28 February 2018, 05:21:56
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 28 February 2018, 09:49:00
The current status still remains the same that all the cases have been milled. Alsoran will visit the factory tomorrow morning and guide the factory polishing the cases. After polishing, the cases will be beadblasted then anodized. The anodizing should be started next week. I'll give you some updates/photos next week.
Update on the "super dark blue": The prototype of this color has been delayed. The factory doing this color just resumed manufacturing and has a lot of orders pending. We still plan to provide this color to those who like this color in this round.
Some details: There was actually some problems with the Paypal. Alsoran is using a new account for collecting money. Paypal froze all the funds because the items were not shipped in weeks, which is abnormal by their standard. Alsoran paid the factory to start the manufacturing with his own fund, and wished to get the money after a while. Paypal still decided to keep freezing the funds tho. As a result, Alsoran is borrowing money from friends/family for getting all the cases out of the factory. He could have had fulfilled all the orders even before CNY if he knew this is the solution, as he told me.
Post by: Petch on Wed, 28 February 2018, 14:11:23
Update on the "super dark blue": The prototype of this color has been delayed. The factory doing this color just resumed manufacturing and has a lot of orders pending. We still plan to provide this color to those who like this color in this round.
How can we opt-in?
Post by: prozach on Wed, 28 February 2018, 14:54:45
Some details: There was actually some problems with the Paypal. Alsoran is using a new account for collecting money. Paypal froze all the funds because the items were not shipped in weeks, which is abnormal by their standard. Alsoran paid the factory to start the manufacturing with his own fund, and wished to get the money after a while. Paypal still decided to keep freezing the funds tho. As a result, Alsoran is borrowing money from friends/family for getting all the cases out of the factory. He could have had fulfilled all the orders even before CNY if he knew this is the solution, as he told me.
Paypal is the worst for these sorts of things *cough*bitcoin*cough*. I hope he can get it worked out. Is there anything that we as GB participants can do or appeal with PayPal so that they release the funds?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 28 February 2018, 15:01:03
I believe they were holding it for 1 month as per his previous posts, that would mean end of Feb they should be unfrozen if not already.Some details: There was actually some problems with the Paypal. Alsoran is using a new account for collecting money. Paypal froze all the funds because the items were not shipped in weeks, which is abnormal by their standard. Alsoran paid the factory to start the manufacturing with his own fund, and wished to get the money after a while. Paypal still decided to keep freezing the funds tho. As a result, Alsoran is borrowing money from friends/family for getting all the cases out of the factory. He could have had fulfilled all the orders even before CNY if he knew this is the solution, as he told me.
Paypal is the worst for these sorts of things *cough*bitcoin*cough*. I hope he can get it worked out. Is there anything that we as GB participants can do or appeal with PayPal so that they release the funds?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 28 February 2018, 15:50:42
Some details: There was actually some problems with the Paypal. Alsoran is using a new account for collecting money. Paypal froze all the funds because the items were not shipped in weeks, which is abnormal by their standard. Alsoran paid the factory to start the manufacturing with his own fund, and wished to get the money after a while. Paypal still decided to keep freezing the funds tho. As a result, Alsoran is borrowing money from friends/family for getting all the cases out of the factory. He could have had fulfilled all the orders even before CNY if he knew this is the solution, as he told me.
Paypal is the worst for these sorts of things *cough*bitcoin*cough*. I hope he can get it worked out. Is there anything that we as GB participants can do or appeal with PayPal so that they release the funds?
yeah i too want to randomly give some guy $400 with no protections
no thanks
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 28 February 2018, 16:25:16
How can we opt-in?
I'll ask here when the prototype is finished.
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 28 February 2018, 16:38:58
I believe they were holding it for 1 month as per his previous posts, that would mean end of Feb they should be unfrozen if not already.
It's not unfrozon unfortunately. Paypal is asking Alsoran to ship items out or there will be more restrictions to his account.
Alsoran asked my opinion that is it possible to ask some GB participants' consent on fake shipping, shipping without a tracking number. I told him that can't be an option, especially as he's not a well known guy here. I suggested him to refund everyone and collect money from everyone on shopify. He decided to borrow money and avoid the troubles at last.
Actually most GB runners have the same problem in China. GB runners can't get the money before the boards are shipped. Normally they list the board on Taobao for 1￥ or just the shipping, then ask the participants to transfer the rest, which means not protection at all. However we're running the GB here so we'll follow the rules here. We will not provide an option without buyers protections.
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 28 February 2018, 16:41:54
Sorry about the Paypal troubles as well. As others have said, unfortunately it's not a new problem and there just doesn't seem to be a good plan B. PayPal is by far the best for us because it's easy, everyone has it and offers purchase protection. Just a bummer it sucks so bad for the GB runners... Know that many others buys have ended up coming out of pocket up front, then waiting on PayPal to release the coin.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 28 February 2018, 17:03:37
PayPal is the only option in my opinion. As a buyer the protection is what we need, they refunded me on a few occasions where I have been scammed.I believe they were holding it for 1 month as per his previous posts, that would mean end of Feb they should be unfrozen if not already.
It's not unfrozon unfortunately. Paypal is asking Alsoran to ship items out or there will be more restrictions to his account.
Alsoran asked my opinion that is it possible to ask some GB participants' consent on fake shipping, shipping without a tracking number. I told him that can't be an option, especially as he's not a well known guy here. I suggested him to refund everyone and collect money from everyone on shopify. He decided to borrow money and avoid the troubles at last.
Actually most GB runners have the same problem in China. GB runners can't get the money before the boards are shipped. Normally they list the board on Taobao for 1￥ or just the shipping, then ask the participants to transfer the rest, which means not protection at all. However we're running the GB here so we'll follow the rules here. We will not provide an option without buyers protections.
Really the fact they are holding the funds is to protect themselves rather than us.
I've read in some GBs the runner calls PayPal before and getting special permissions on their account so the freeze does not happen. Not sure of the requirements for this though.
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 28 February 2018, 21:56:42
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 02 March 2018, 12:40:09
The next step is to get all the cases beadblasted and anodized.
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 02 March 2018, 12:45:48
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 02 March 2018, 12:50:55
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 02 March 2018, 13:15:13
So money has been paid for them to be cut and polished but as of right now we have no money to beadblast/anodize them(because of PayPal), is that correct?
No, I didn't say that. Alsoran should also have the money to do the beadblasting and anodizing. Everything is going well currently.
Post by: floris on Fri, 02 March 2018, 14:23:19
Post by: afrokobe on Fri, 02 March 2018, 14:44:13
Alsoran is the man! paying everything upfront, much props to him for helping this buy run smoothly.So money has been paid for them to be cut and polished but as of right now we have no money to beadblast/anodize them(because of PayPal), is that correct?
No, I didn't say that. Alsoran should also have the money to do the beadblasting and anodizing. Everything is going well currently.
Post by: prozach on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:43:34
I tried looking through the IC thread and this but don't see any sort of BOM if I plan to assemble it myself.
OR am I being a noob?
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:58:40
How many switches am I going to need?
I tried looking through the IC thread and this but don't see any sort of BOM if I plan to assemble it myself.
OR am I being a noob?
buy 85, i think it's 78 keys or so
Post by: prozach on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:18:12
buy 85, i think it's 78 keys or so
Awesome Thanks.
Looks like I need plate mount switches but doing some reading it looks like I can buy pcb mount and just cut the tabs off if I need to.
This will be my first true build. No stranger to soldering or electronics.
Looking forward to the project. My godspeed XDA is gonna look sweet on this board.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:20:13
The PCB has holes for PCB mount switches so you're all good.buy 85, i think it's 78 keys or so
Awesome Thanks.
Looks like I need plate mount switches but doing some reading it looks like I can buy pcb mount and just cut the tabs off if I need to.
This will be my first true build. No stranger to soldering or electronics.
Looking forward to the project. My godspeed XDA is gonna look sweet on this board.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:56:12
The PCB has holes for PCB mount switches so you're all good.buy 85, i think it's 78 keys or so
Awesome Thanks.
Looks like I need plate mount switches but doing some reading it looks like I can buy pcb mount and just cut the tabs off if I need to.
This will be my first true build. No stranger to soldering or electronics.
Looking forward to the project. My godspeed XDA is gonna look sweet on this board.
I plan to slap SA Carbon on this
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 11:08:04
Got a black case, still undecided on weather to switch to that deep blue yet.
Post by: prozach on Fri, 09 March 2018, 12:05:00
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 09 March 2018, 13:14:16
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Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 11 March 2018, 14:02:53
Please check the google form (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V71rc5GNCnk0WGywkCHPDY5IYWIytWVcXxhc_zBi5AY) for your current selections.
There's also one extra color you can change to. It was supposed to be the dark blue (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) but unfortunately that factory is not available now for accepting small orders. Alsoran found another factory can do a similar color (https://imgur.com/a/CPw8i). This color is also dark. The interesting thing is it can change color in different light (different color temperature). All the photos are from a same case.
Please DM me if you want to make changes on the color option within two days from now because all the cases will arrive the anodizing factory in two days.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 11 March 2018, 14:04:24
Post by: speaktobrett on Sun, 11 March 2018, 15:19:02
Dm'd :)
Post by: Petch on Sun, 11 March 2018, 17:35:56
Hi all. AL1 cases are ready for anodizing. This is the last chance you can make change on the colors.
Please check the google form (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V71rc5GNCnk0WGywkCHPDY5IYWIytWVcXxhc_zBi5AY) for your current selections.
There's also one extra color you can change to. It was supposed to be the dark blue (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) but unfortunately that factory is not available now for accepting small orders. Alsoran found another factory can do a similar color (https://imgur.com/a/CPw8i). This color is also dark. The interesting thing is it can change color in different light (different color temperature). All the photos are from a same case.
Please DM me if you want to make changes on the color option within two days from now because all the cases will arrive the anodizing factory in two days.
That's a shame, but the new blue is still quite nice. In one of the photos it looks positively purple - is it like that in person? I've already got a purple board that was supposed to be blue :(
Do you have any photos of other colours (specifically the normal blue) as completed boards, or just the new colour?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 11 March 2018, 17:37:28
Post by: prozach on Sun, 11 March 2018, 18:23:36
if we want to the new color will it all be that color or will the case be the new color and the plate be the color from the preset we originally chose?
Post by: Visionaire on Sun, 11 March 2018, 19:26:34
Post by: forumusername on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:15:25
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 11 March 2018, 21:04:53
Post by: Visionaire on Sun, 11 March 2018, 22:04:19
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:01:30
That's a shame, but the new blue is still quite nice. In one of the photos it looks positively purple - is it like that in person? I've already got a purple board that was supposed to be blue :(
Do you have any photos of other colours (specifically the normal blue) as completed boards, or just the new colour?
According to Alsoran, this color is black in darkness, purple in intense light, and blue indoor.
no new photos for completed boards in other colors.
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:03:13
Is changing to the new case color an option for folks that did one of the color presets?
if we want to the new color will it all be that color or will the case be the new color and the plate be the color from the preset we originally chose?
If you decide to go with the new color on case, then the plate can be in the same color or black without any charge.
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:09:05
I assume that the color option #6 is pink in this picture and not rose gold https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg but with the way that it is sitting next to the silver maybe it is rose gold? I just wanted to clarify if possible. Also are we only able to change the case color or case and plate? This is very generous for us to be able to change at all thank you.
I would also like to know as to what components we are able to change -- also if there any crisp pics of the color samples, it'd be nice!
case and plate
I've asked but unfortunately alsoran doesn't have high res photos either. I'll see if he can get some new photos right before anodizing.
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:11:22
Can someone point me to some information on how to flash this board when it arrives? :)
I'll open source the QMK codes. It should be easy if you have flashed QMK/TMK before. A tutorial will be provided.
Post by: Visionaire on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:43:40
Can someone point me to some information on how to flash this board when it arrives? :)
I'll open source the QMK codes. It should be easy if you have flashed QMK/TMK before. A tutorial will be provided.
Great, thank you for that. I've done one board before.. a KBD75, which is QMK but will certainly need any advice / direction you can provide.
Also sent you a PM with a bit of a crazy question. ;)
Post by: prozach on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:42:59
I have all the switches (nice timing from Massdrop) but am I going to need diodes (thinking no since there is a pcb).
would love to see a build BOM if one exists.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:04:19
is there a list somewhere of everything i will need to build this? This is my first build and i have no idea if i need pcb or plate mount stabilizers and how many of what size.Looking at pictures of the pcb prototype it looks like it takes pcb mount stabs. You’ll need a 7u spacebar stab and 4-6 x 2u stabs depending on the layout you use.
I have all the switches (nice timing from Massdrop) but am I going to need diodes (thinking no since there is a pcb).
would love to see a build BOM if one exists.
I doubt you’ll need diodes since most come presoldered nowadays.
Post by: Carifio24 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 06:09:37
Post by: prozach on Tue, 13 March 2018, 22:53:50
Looking at pictures of the pcb prototype it looks like it takes pcb mount stabs. You’ll need a 7u spacebar stab and 4-6 x 2u stabs depending on the layout you use.
I doubt you’ll need diodes since most come presoldered nowadays.
Thanks.
Now to find a place that actually has cherry stabs in stock. :-)
Post by: Visionaire on Wed, 14 March 2018, 06:50:27
Looking at pictures of the pcb prototype it looks like it takes pcb mount stabs. You’ll need a 7u spacebar stab and 4-6 x 2u stabs depending on the layout you use.
I doubt you’ll need diodes since most come presoldered nowadays.
Thanks.
Now to find a place that actually has cherry stabs in stock. :-)
I got mine from Sentraq
https://sentraq.com/collections/accesories/products/cherry-screw-in-pcb-mount-stabilizers
Post by: prozach on Wed, 14 March 2018, 08:33:55
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 19 March 2018, 22:06:22
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 21 March 2018, 08:34:44
quick update: Alsoran will be flying to the city of the anodizing factory and oversee the manufacturing. I'm surprised because I didn't know he will be off work and on site for the anodizing. Once he arrives the factory, he will stay there until everything is finished. He's expecting to stay there no more than 1 week.Gotta love his commitment, anything else we are waiting for(PCBs, brass parts) after anodising?
Post by: xZ3ROx on Tue, 27 March 2018, 09:39:21
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:31:27
any update on how everything is looking so far? Pics would be awesome and SA Carbon is patiently waiting to be mounted on this!
Got some new photos (https://imgur.com/a/LpxIk) from Alsoran. All the weights and plates have been electroplated. Cases will be finished in two days.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:37:15
Post by: noricon on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:19:14
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:45:53
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 28 March 2018, 04:40:43
I'm sad I missed out on this, photo's look great!
PM TriangleLab for extras. More were made than ordered.
Post by: floris on Wed, 28 March 2018, 08:08:59
Post by: Petch on Wed, 28 March 2018, 12:22:20
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 29 March 2018, 13:49:48
Important: : some kits without engravings and assembly service will be shipped from the next weekend. Please PM me if your address has been changed or is not the same with your Paypal address.
The kits with engravings or assembly service will be shipped later.
Post by: superdoedoe on Mon, 02 April 2018, 21:55:04
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 04 April 2018, 21:46:42
There will be some leftover parts including plates, PCBs, cases, and so on. These part will be sold FCFC for those who asked here or through private message. For now I can not make confirmation whether or not you will get the parts tho.
Important: : some kits without engravings and assembly service will be shipped from the next weekend. Please PM me if your address has been changed or is not the same with your Paypal address.
The kits with engravings or assembly service will be shipped later.
Hype!
Can't wait to seen them.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Fri, 06 April 2018, 08:23:08
Post by: floristfran on Sat, 07 April 2018, 07:18:26
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 08 April 2018, 09:25:39
:eek:
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 08 April 2018, 09:27:26
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JMMt0Ls.jpg)
:eek:
Whoa. Is the green one in the top row the same green as the color 10 (or 12?) I ordered?
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Post by: vtachkov on Sun, 08 April 2018, 09:35:55
Post by: forumusername on Sun, 08 April 2018, 10:08:44
Post by: MegalaDump on Sun, 08 April 2018, 10:12:10
Post by: smittysteve on Sun, 08 April 2018, 11:43:29
Especially my lone orange board up there- color looks perfect. Can’t wait to see it in person! Thanks to all for a smooth GB so far.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 10 April 2018, 19:49:37
There is a little delay for shipping the keyboards out. They are supposed to be shipped out on last Sunday but now the shipping will start from tomorrow.
The reason is the PCB factory soldered the diodes in the wrong direction. Alsoran asked me to solve this problem by changing the QMK codes. However, for the columns of the matrix, we used a 74hc154 decoder chip which only works in one direction. That means changing the code won't make the PCB work. Alsoran decided to manually re-solder the diodes for the PCBs. He's doing it at a speed of 40 min per PCB. Totally 32 international orders will be handled first. Hopefully he can finish the work within one week. Finished/QCed kits will be sent out in several batches in this week. I'm really sorry for the delay.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 10 April 2018, 20:59:03
Update:
There is a little delay for shipping the keyboards out. They are supposed to be shipped out on last Sunday but now the shipping will start from tomorrow.
The reason is the PCB factory soldered the diodes in the wrong direction. Alsoran asked me to solve this problem by changing the QMK codes. However, for the columns of the matrix, we used a 74hc154 decoder chip which only works in one direction. That means changing the code won't make the PCB work. Alsoran decided to manually re-solder the diodes for the PCBs. He's doing it at a speed of 40 min per PCB. Totally 32 international orders will be handled first. Hopefully he can finish the work within one week. Finished/QCed kits will be sent out in several batches in this week. I'm really sorry for the delay.
**** happens, and at least we get a double QC on the functionality of the PCB.
Not a big deal for me. I hope it all resolves well! :thumb:
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 10 April 2018, 22:03:44
Update:
There is a little delay for shipping the keyboards out. They are supposed to be shipped out on last Sunday but now the shipping will start from tomorrow.
The reason is the PCB factory soldered the diodes in the wrong direction. Alsoran asked me to solve this problem by changing the QMK codes. However, for the columns of the matrix, we used a 74hc154 decoder chip which only works in one direction. That means changing the code won't make the PCB work. Alsoran decided to manually re-solder the diodes for the PCBs. He's doing it at a speed of 40 min per PCB. Totally 32 international orders will be handled first. Hopefully he can finish the work within one week. Finished/QCed kits will be sent out in several batches in this week. I'm really sorry for the delay.
Glad to see you all caught and fixed this fundamental error. I don't think you could've resolved this through code.
Since you're using a decoder, are you going to publish that code on GitHub?
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 10 April 2018, 22:20:10
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 11 April 2018, 08:00:43
Glad to see you all caught and fixed this fundamental error. I don't think you could've resolved this through code.
Since you're using a decoder, are you going to publish that code on GitHub?
Yes, both the code and pcb files will be open sourced.
Post by: afrokobe on Wed, 11 April 2018, 10:30:07
Update:
There is a little delay for shipping the keyboards out. They are supposed to be shipped out on last Sunday but now the shipping will start from tomorrow.
The reason is the PCB factory soldered the diodes in the wrong direction. Alsoran asked me to solve this problem by changing the QMK codes. However, for the columns of the matrix, we used a 74hc154 decoder chip which only works in one direction. That means changing the code won't make the PCB work. Alsoran decided to manually re-solder the diodes for the PCBs. He's doing it at a speed of 40 min per PCB. Totally 32 international orders will be handled first. Hopefully he can finish the work within one week. Finished/QCed kits will be sent out in several batches in this week. I'm really sorry for the delay.
Thanks for the updates! Do the 32 international orders include ones with engraving?
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 11 April 2018, 17:46:03
Update:
There is a little delay for shipping the keyboards out. They are supposed to be shipped out on last Sunday but now the shipping will start from tomorrow.
The reason is the PCB factory soldered the diodes in the wrong direction. Alsoran asked me to solve this problem by changing the QMK codes. However, for the columns of the matrix, we used a 74hc154 decoder chip which only works in one direction. That means changing the code won't make the PCB work. Alsoran decided to manually re-solder the diodes for the PCBs. He's doing it at a speed of 40 min per PCB. Totally 32 international orders will be handled first. Hopefully he can finish the work within one week. Finished/QCed kits will be sent out in several batches in this week. I'm really sorry for the delay.
Thanks for the updates! Do the 32 international orders include ones with engraving?
Iirc they ship later.
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 12 April 2018, 19:58:47
Thanks for the updates! Do the 32 international orders include ones with engraving?
Yes
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 12 April 2018, 20:02:23
List of leftovers:
- a lot of PCBs
- keyboard cases (with same color plates):
Red * 1, Purple * 1,titanium grey * 1, pink * 1, New dark blue/purple *42 - additional aluminum plates:
black * 1,titanium grey * 1, red * 1, purple * 2, New dark blue/purple * 1
edit:
(https://i.imgur.com/aUrMjG5.jpg)
added one pic
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 13 April 2018, 09:25:44
At least 4 buyers asked for additional brass plates. I'm sorry to say all the brass leftovers are gone.Were there any brass leftovers plates that were successfully transferred to group buy buyers? Just wondering who got and who didn't.
List of leftovers:
- a lot of PCBs
- keyboard cases (with same color plates): Red * 1, Purple * 1,
titanium grey * 1, pink * 1, New dark blue/purple *42- additional aluminum plates:
black * 1,titanium grey * 1, red * 1, purple * 2, New dark blue/purple * 1
edit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUrMjG5.jpg)
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Post by: xZ3ROx on Fri, 13 April 2018, 09:54:29
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 13 April 2018, 12:15:14
Were there any brass leftovers plates that were successfully transferred to group buy buyers? Just wondering who got and who didn't.
There were only 4 brass plate leftovers. Alsoran distributed 3 to Chinese buyers (including Taiwan). And one was kept for himself.
He intended to make some new brass versions but decided not to at least, because his financial status is really bad and he wants to ship the kits asap.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 13 April 2018, 12:41:35
Were there any brass leftovers plates that were successfully transferred to group buy buyers? Just wondering who got and who didn't.
There were only 4 brass plate leftovers. Alsoran distributed 3 to Chinese buyers (including Taiwan). And one was kept for himself.
He intended to make some new brass versions but decided not to at least, because his financial status is really bad and he wants to ship the kits asap.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification. :)
Post by: floris on Fri, 13 April 2018, 13:20:28
He intended to make some new brass versions but decided not to at least, because his financial status is really bad and he wants to ship the kits asap.
Hope PayPal releases the money quickly after shipping, so Alsoran can finally get his money.
Post by: trikoi00 on Sun, 15 April 2018, 03:59:05
Post by: prozach on Tue, 17 April 2018, 12:23:58
Trying to figure out if everything I need to build it will be here by the time it gets here.
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 17 April 2018, 18:28:45
How long should we expect for shipping transit to the west coast US?
Trying to figure out if everything I need to build it will be here by the time it gets here.
Normally a couple days. I wouldn't say longer than 2 weeks though
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Wed, 18 April 2018, 06:57:13
Post by: vtachkov on Wed, 18 April 2018, 10:15:37
Post by: xZ3ROx on Wed, 18 April 2018, 10:27:44
switch films:
stabs:
keycaps:
lube:
solder:
leds:
AL1: patiently waiting
Post by: Petch on Wed, 18 April 2018, 10:31:54
Tracking info was updated for DHL. This is the last step guys!
You got another email?
Post by: MegalaDump on Wed, 18 April 2018, 10:33:17
Tracking info was updated for DHL. This is the last step guys!
You got another email?
Also wondering this. Was asked for number yesterday but no update since.
Post by: vtachkov on Wed, 18 April 2018, 11:15:59
Tracking info was updated for DHL. This is the last step guys!
You got another email?
Also wondering this. Was asked for number yesterday but no update since.
Yep, I received an email notification that the paid paypal invoice was updated with tracking and the status was changed to shipped.
I think I'm also the first person on the order list, so maybe Alsoran is sending them out in order.
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Thu, 19 April 2018, 03:00:01
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 19 April 2018, 20:53:32
(https://i.imgur.com/jtVzxCV.gif)
Post by: Petch on Fri, 20 April 2018, 03:29:13
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:05:44
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:29:20
I just asked Alsoran about the shipping progress. Only a part of the orders have been sent out. If you haven't got the tracking number, your order haven't been shipped. Alsoran didn't have money to pay the shipping for all the orders. The rest orders are holding by the transport proxy currently. Alsoran is waiting for the defrozen of partial money on PayPal so he can pay the transport proxy the rest of the shipping fee. Sorry about that :(Thanks for the update. I provided my phone number but received no tracking info so that must be what happened. Can't wait!
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Post by: TechieWeirdo on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:32:33
I just asked Alsoran about the shipping progress. Only a part of the orders have been sent out. If you haven't got the tracking number, your order haven't been shipped. Alsoran didn't have money to pay the shipping for all the orders. The rest orders are holding by the transport proxy currently. Alsoran is waiting for the defrozen of partial money on PayPal so he can pay the transport proxy the rest of the shipping fee. Sorry about that :(
Thanks for the update.
Sidenote: Sorry if this was answered, but what firmware is the PCB running?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:34:59
I just asked Alsoran about the shipping progress. Only a part of the orders have been sent out. If you haven't got the tracking number, your order haven't been shipped. Alsoran didn't have money to pay the shipping for all the orders. The rest orders are holding by the transport proxy currently. Alsoran is waiting for the defrozen of partial money on PayPal so he can pay the transport proxy the rest of the shipping fee. Sorry about that :(
Thanks for the update.
Sidenote: Sorry if this was answered, but what firmware is the PCB running?
Original plan was TMK, I haven't followed whether it changed at any point.
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:38:59
Sidenote: Sorry if this was answered, but what firmware is the PCB running?
I made the firmware for Alsoran using TMK originally. Then it's changed to QMK since QMK is more popular now.
I will release the QMK source codes and PCB files by this weekend.
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Sat, 21 April 2018, 07:16:01
Sidenote: Sorry if this was answered, but what firmware is the PCB running?
I made the firmware for Alsoran using TMK originally. Then it's changed to QMK since QMK is more popular now.
I will release the QMK source codes and PCB files by this weekend.
Thanks!
Post by: odd on Mon, 23 April 2018, 22:10:53
1. Top and bottom anno colors are completely different colors
2. TON of scratches on the bottom that were there BEFORE the anno
3. The bottom anno is just pathetic, it looks part of it was smeared on with fingers, seriously
4. Top anno is not uniform at all, it's a multitude of different colors hues.
I got the new special color if anyone cares so maybe your's will be fine if you got the standard color. I'm still at work but I'll take pics of this when I get home.
edit: pics
(https://preview.ibb.co/gEOSRx/IMG_20180423_201156.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fhou6x)
(https://preview.ibb.co/muZdYc/IMG_20180423_201214.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jVg3zH)
(https://preview.ibb.co/bzxXtc/IMG_20180423_201244.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kEWstc)
(https://preview.ibb.co/f0nbKH/IMG_20180423_201259.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fjMgmx)
and no it's not pic angles showing the busted color, it really looks like that well worse in person to be honest.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 23 April 2018, 22:12:39
I got mine in today and I'll tell you I am VERY UNHAPPY.
:( This surely doesn't bode well. Also, I haven't received my tracking number.
Post by: vtachkov on Mon, 23 April 2018, 22:37:13
Unfortunately mine came with a slight dent in the upper-right corner. Not as bad as the TGR 910 fiasco, and not really noticeable when looking from the front, so I'm not too upset about it. The packaging could've been better and might've prevented the dent from happening.
All in all for how much we paid for this case, in comparison to other customs, I can't really complain. I'll put up some pictures when I can get some natural light tomorrow.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Mon, 23 April 2018, 22:40:51
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I got mine in today and I'll tell you I am VERY UNHAPPY. Here are the issues I see just after 5 mins of looking at it
1. Top and bottom anno colors are completely different colors
2. TON of scratches on the bottom that were there BEFORE the anno
3. The bottom anno is just pathetic, it looks part of it was smeared on with fingers, seriously
4. Top anno is not uniform at all, it's a multitude of different colors hues.
I got the new special color if anyone cares so maybe your's will be fine if you got the standard color. I'm still at work but I'll take pics of this when I get home.
edit: pics
(https://preview.ibb.co/gEOSRx/IMG_20180423_201156.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fhou6x)
(https://preview.ibb.co/muZdYc/IMG_20180423_201214.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jVg3zH)
(https://preview.ibb.co/bzxXtc/IMG_20180423_201244.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kEWstc)
(https://preview.ibb.co/f0nbKH/IMG_20180423_201259.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fjMgmx)
and no it's not pic angles showing the busted color, it really looks like that well worse in person to be honest.
Not gonna lie, it looks horrible.
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 24 April 2018, 00:43:52
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I got mine in today and I'll tell you I am VERY UNHAPPY. Here are the issues I see just after 5 mins of looking at it
1. Top and bottom anno colors are completely different colors
2. TON of scratches on the bottom that were there BEFORE the anno
3. The bottom anno is just pathetic, it looks part of it was smeared on with fingers, seriously
4. Top anno is not uniform at all, it's a multitude of different colors hues.
I got the new special color if anyone cares so maybe your's will be fine if you got the standard color. I'm still at work but I'll take pics of this when I get home.
edit: pics
(https://preview.ibb.co/gEOSRx/IMG_20180423_201156.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fhou6x)
(https://preview.ibb.co/muZdYc/IMG_20180423_201214.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jVg3zH)
(https://preview.ibb.co/bzxXtc/IMG_20180423_201244.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kEWstc)
(https://preview.ibb.co/f0nbKH/IMG_20180423_201259.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fjMgmx)
and no it's not pic angles showing the busted color, it really looks like that well worse in person to be honest.
looks like it wasn't cleaned after anodizing
Post by: jaymaikan on Tue, 24 April 2018, 00:59:38
odd's looks like b-stock though.
Post by: Petch on Tue, 24 April 2018, 04:40:59
Post by: afrokobe on Tue, 24 April 2018, 09:34:27
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:06:56
Post by: noricon on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:39:43
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 24 April 2018, 13:29:30
Well, at least this buy is on schedule. Marking my calendar.
Marking your calendar for a sub-par product?
C'mon man, don't play yourself. That finish is unacceptable for a $300 keyboard.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 24 April 2018, 13:37:11
Well, at least this buy is on schedule. Marking my calendar.
I'm pretty sure people would prefer to have a flawless product.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Tue, 24 April 2018, 13:41:59
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 24 April 2018, 13:58:18
I mean, they hand packed the box with that purple board in it... IF they felt good enough about that, that they were like Ok cool lets ship this out to our customer, what else is there to say?
Anyone in this GB: Looks like a great powdercoat/cerakote candidate!
Post by: vtachkov on Tue, 24 April 2018, 14:09:50
(https://imgur.com/Qes4jYk.png)
(https://imgur.com/w6jZ0ID.png)
(https://imgur.com/imDYRoH.png)
Here you can see the markings on the bottom I mentioned. They look to be in the same exact place as xZ3ROx's case, so maybe something was going on here with the factory.
(https://imgur.com/JI9uuvF.png)
Aaaaand the dent. Kinda crappy but you can't really see it from the front.
(https://imgur.com/VYWmGO5.png)
If I decide to keep this then the imperfections don't bother me too much, but YMMV. While mine looks pretty good at normal viewing / typing distance, there are a few very minor imperfections if you look close enough. I believe the special blue was anodized at a different factory than the standard colors, so at the very least I don't think anyone with standard colors has to worry about the anodization.
Final note: For a sub $300 (base) case with a mirror-polished brass weight, it's not too bad. Packaging could've been a lot better (I'd pay extra for any custom to get a custom box made), and I have no idea how that blue anno passed QC, it's very disappointing. TriangleLab, if you hope to run another GB in the future, don't let it discourage you, but you have quite a few improvements to be made, and you'll need to earn back some of this trust by dealing with our criticisms.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 14:18:33
The purple/blue anode is appalling and I wouldn't accept it.
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 24 April 2018, 15:06:19
Well, at least this buy is on schedule. Marking my calendar.
Marking your calendar for a sub-par product?
C'mon man, don't play yourself. That finish is unacceptable for a $300 keyboard.
You misunderstood my meaning. I'm marking my calendar for the 180 day mark for PayPal protection. I'm not falling into another EXENT fiasco.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 24 April 2018, 16:27:04
For now I can see there are at least two major problems. The first is odd's anodizing issues on dark blue case. The second is the dent on vtachkov's case. I asked Alsoran last night (time in China) about the quality issues. He woke up before dawn and answered several of my questions. Here are the summarizations:
1. He hasn't directly answered my question why the dark blue case passed QC. (I will ask again when he wake up again.)
2. The dent on vtachkov's case should be caused by shipping damage. He was supposed to use EVA inner packings but ended up with the current poor packing due to the lack of funds. He will give compensation for the dent.
3. The dark blue cases were anodized in a different factory with other colors. The way they do this color is to sink the case in the ano pool for a really long time. That's the possible reason of the inconsistency. He will talk to the ano factory and give solutions by 04/26 12:00 AM.
4. A possible solution is to re-anodize all the dark blue cases to this color: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349 This color was the original plan but it wasn't available when he did the ano.
5. I have asked him to hold all the rest packages for shipping in the transport proxy company.
Anyone who have received a problematic kit, PM me the detailed descriptions of your issues with photos. Please keep it short and accurate. I'll help you to resolve the problems.
Post by: Petch on Tue, 24 April 2018, 16:29:14
4. A possible solution is to re-anodize all the dark blue cases to this color: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349 This color was the original plan but it wasn't available when he did the ano.
I will happily wait for that
Post by: noricon on Tue, 24 April 2018, 16:44:59
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 16:51:56
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 24 April 2018, 17:21:53
It's a sad day for all of us. As some of you may know, I have another Group Buy has been delayed for months because I don't want to run two GBs at the same time. For this group buy, I helped Alsoran with the PCB and firmware as a friend, and I don't get money from it. This group buy goes with much more problems than I thought. I wouldn't run this GB if I knew this situation. As a GB runner, I've been pushing Alsoran to do everything correct and fast, asking for photos to keep you updated. Unfortunately, there are so many things I can't control. I'm sorry about all the issues.
For now I can see there are at least two major problems. The first is odd's anodizing issues on dark blue case. The second is the dent on vtachkov's case. I asked Alsoran last night (time in China) about the quality issues. He woke up before dawn and answered several of my questions. Here are the summarizations:
1. He hasn't directly answered my question why the dark blue case passed QC. (I will ask again when he wake up again.)
2. The dent on vtachkov's case should be caused by shipping damage. He was supposed to use EVA inner packings but ended up with the current poor packing due to the lack of funds. He will give compensation for the dent.
3. The dark blue cases were anodized in a different factory with other colors. The way they do this color is to sink the case in the ano pool for a really long time. That's the possible reason of the inconsistency. He will talk to the ano factory and give solutions by 04/26 12:00 AM.
4. A possible solution is to re-anodize all the dark blue cases to this color: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349 This color was the original plan but it wasn't available when he did the ano.
5. I have asked him to hold all the rest packages for shipping in the transport proxy company.
Anyone who have received a problematic kit, PM me the detailed descriptions of your issues with photos. Please keep it short and accurate. I'll help you to resolve the problems.
I'm happy to wait, however I'll need refunded and reinvoiced prior to the 180 day mark. Since PayPal is holding the funds anyway it shouldn't cause a problem.
No offense intended, but I'll never let my PayPal protection lapse again after getting burned by EXENT and nearly so by E8-V1.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 24 April 2018, 18:19:59
The cost to strip, polish and re-anodise will be expensive.
in the US, it's generally about 60-100 depending on where you go
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 24 April 2018, 19:43:50
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 24 April 2018, 19:52:14
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Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:37:36
1. If all the dark blue cases have issues, they need to be re-ano to the color here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) in another ano factory. I need a new estimated shipping date.
2. All the other color cases need to be QC again and packed more carefully. I need a new estimated shipping date.
3. Take photos for every case before shipping.
Alsoran agreed with 2 and 3 and will give the new shipping date estimations tomorrow (time in China). For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
Alsoran's explanation of the quality issues is that he was overwhelmed for so many colors and so many kits. As I can see, he wasn't in good emotion as well because he borrowed a lot of money for all the orders and hasn't got any money from PayPal. None of them are good reasons tho. He has not idea how the dent came from because even the previous packing shouldn't cause such dents. He suspect that was caused by customs inspection.
For those who have received the kit.
Again, please PM me detailed descriptions and photos if your cases have quality issues. Keep it short and accurate. I haven't received any such PMs currently.
For those who have received a kit without problems, please make a confirmation on PayPal that you received the item as described. I thought PayPal doesn't have this confirmation function/button like on Taobao, but Alsoran said there should be one. Does it? I'm not that familiar with PayPal. Anyway Alsoran needs the money to do the mentioned after-sale service and re-ano. He will talk to PayPal tomorrow and ask them to defroze the money of GOOD received kits.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:51:56
Can't say I've ever seen the option to confirm goods received on PayPal.
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:56:18
I talked with Alsoran today. Here's my proposal to him:
1. If all the dark blue cases have issues, they need to be re-ano to the color here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) in another ano factory. I need a new estimated shipping date.
2. All the other color cases need to be QC again and packed more carefully. I need a new estimated shipping date.
3. Take photos for every case before shipping.
Alsoran agreed with 2 and 3 and will give the new shipping date estimations tomorrow (time in China). For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
Alsoran's explanation of the quality issues is that he was overwhelmed for so many colors and so many kits. As I can see, he wasn't in good emotion as well because he borrowed a lot of money for all the orders and hasn't got any money from PayPal. None of them are good reasons tho. He has not idea how the dent came from because even the previous packing shouldn't cause such dents. He suspect that was caused by customs inspection.
For those who have received the kit.
Again, please PM me detailed descriptions and photos if your cases have quality issues. Keep it short and accurate. I haven't received any such PMs currently.
For those who have received a kit without problems, please make a confirmation on PayPal that you received the item as described. I thought PayPal doesn't have this confirmation function/button like on Taobao, but Alsoran said there should be one. Does it? I'm not that familiar with PayPal. Anyway Alsoran needs the money to do the mentioned after-sale service and re-ano. He will talk to PayPal tomorrow and ask them to defroze the money of GOOD received kits.
I switched colors when we were told https://imgur.com/a/CPw8i
Was the color. I'm not interested in the color if it's as bright as one buyer's pictures indicate it to be. If mine is being reanodized can it just go back to black?
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:07:28
I talked with Alsoran today. Here's my proposal to him:
2. All the other color cases need to be QC again and packed more carefully. I need a new estimated shipping date.
3. Take photos for every case before shipping.
Alsoran agreed with 2 and 3 and will give the new shipping date estimations tomorrow (time in China). For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
I look forward to the new shipping date estimates. It's important, because I don't want the arrival date to be too much later. I expect to move in early June, so I want to ensure I have enough time to receive and organize all my incoming orders/mail/keyboard stuff before I move.
Post by: forumusername on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:09:20
This is likely the best idea to minimize any additional difficulty in the GB. Thanks for the updates TriangleI talked with Alsoran today. Here's my proposal to him:
1. If all the dark blue cases have issues, they need to be re-ano to the color here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) in another ano factory. I need a new estimated shipping date.
2. All the other color cases need to be QC again and packed more carefully. I need a new estimated shipping date.
3. Take photos for every case before shipping.
Alsoran agreed with 2 and 3 and will give the new shipping date estimations tomorrow (time in China). For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
Alsoran's explanation of the quality issues is that he was overwhelmed for so many colors and so many kits. As I can see, he wasn't in good emotion as well because he borrowed a lot of money for all the orders and hasn't got any money from PayPal. None of them are good reasons tho. He has not idea how the dent came from because even the previous packing shouldn't cause such dents. He suspect that was caused by customs inspection.
For those who have received the kit.
Again, please PM me detailed descriptions and photos if your cases have quality issues. Keep it short and accurate. I haven't received any such PMs currently.
For those who have received a kit without problems, please make a confirmation on PayPal that you received the item as described. I thought PayPal doesn't have this confirmation function/button like on Taobao, but Alsoran said there should be one. Does it? I'm not that familiar with PayPal. Anyway Alsoran needs the money to do the mentioned after-sale service and re-ano. He will talk to PayPal tomorrow and ask them to defroze the money of GOOD received kits.
I switched colors when we were told https://imgur.com/a/CPw8i
Was the color. I'm not interested in the color if it's as bright as one buyer's pictures indicate it to be. If mine is being reanodized can it just go back to black?
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Post by: Petch on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:11:32
For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
Personally, I wouldn't mind waiting if the factory can give a date. It's a nicer colour.
If it's likely the current blue is going to not be up to the same quality as the other colours (even if it does improve from the earlier photos) I'd rather just have it re-anno'd as one of the normal colours, if possible.
Also, the photos from the bad annodising earlier look a lot more purple than the proposed images. Maybe just lighting?
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:31:44
I talked with Alsoran today. Here's my proposal to him:
1. If all the dark blue cases have issues, they need to be re-ano to the color here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) in another ano factory. I need a new estimated shipping date.
2. All the other color cases need to be QC again and packed more carefully. I need a new estimated shipping date.
3. Take photos for every case before shipping.
Alsoran agreed with 2 and 3 and will give the new shipping date estimations tomorrow (time in China). For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
Alsoran's explanation of the quality issues is that he was overwhelmed for so many colors and so many kits. As I can see, he wasn't in good emotion as well because he borrowed a lot of money for all the orders and hasn't got any money from PayPal. None of them are good reasons tho. He has not idea how the dent came from because even the previous packing shouldn't cause such dents. He suspect that was caused by customs inspection.
For those who have received the kit.
Again, please PM me detailed descriptions and photos if your cases have quality issues. Keep it short and accurate. I haven't received any such PMs currently.
For those who have received a kit without problems, please make a confirmation on PayPal that you received the item as described. I thought PayPal doesn't have this confirmation function/button like on Taobao, but Alsoran said there should be one. Does it? I'm not that familiar with PayPal. Anyway Alsoran needs the money to do the mentioned after-sale service and re-ano. He will talk to PayPal tomorrow and ask them to defroze the money of GOOD received kits.
Don't be too hard on yourself, both you and Alsoran have done a very good job with communication and that is the biggest thing. The group buy can have issues and mistakes can be made, but as long as you guys communicate and have a plan, I think you're a golden. Just take all the mistakes as a learning opportunity for the next group buy. Honestly I rather have a group buy where there were mistakes made, but everything was communicated to the participants.
Also on the paypal confirmation, I have done it once, so I know its doable.
Post by: odd on Thu, 26 April 2018, 11:32:38
I talked with Alsoran today. Here's my proposal to him:
1. If all the dark blue cases have issues, they need to be re-ano to the color here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93258.msg2556349#msg2556349) in another ano factory. I need a new estimated shipping date.
2. All the other color cases need to be QC again and packed more carefully. I need a new estimated shipping date.
3. Take photos for every case before shipping.
Alsoran agreed with 2 and 3 and will give the new shipping date estimations tomorrow (time in China). For 1, unfortunately the factory is still not available as before. The dark blue cases can only be re-anodized to the same color but with higher quality.
Alsoran's explanation of the quality issues is that he was overwhelmed for so many colors and so many kits. As I can see, he wasn't in good emotion as well because he borrowed a lot of money for all the orders and hasn't got any money from PayPal. None of them are good reasons tho. He has not idea how the dent came from because even the previous packing shouldn't cause such dents. He suspect that was caused by customs inspection.
For those who have received the kit.
Again, please PM me detailed descriptions and photos if your cases have quality issues. Keep it short and accurate. I haven't received any such PMs currently.
For those who have received a kit without problems, please make a confirmation on PayPal that you received the item as described. I thought PayPal doesn't have this confirmation function/button like on Taobao, but Alsoran said there should be one. Does it? I'm not that familiar with PayPal. Anyway Alsoran needs the money to do the mentioned after-sale service and re-ano. He will talk to PayPal tomorrow and ask them to defroze the money of GOOD received kits.
I just saw this.sorry for the delay i ll be PMig you tonight when I get off work. Do you require new pics or are the ones I posted here good enough.?
Post by: TriangleLab on Sat, 28 April 2018, 08:59:32
I just saw this.sorry for the delay i ll be PMig you tonight when I get off work. Do you require new pics or are the ones I posted here good enough.?
It would be helpful if you can label the defects with numbers. Each defect comes with one photo.
I will organize all the issues for each kit in a document. Alsoran will negotiate with the factory with these documents. What's why I was asking for short and accurate description with photos.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sat, 28 April 2018, 09:13:51
1. Dark blue kits: estimation of shipping date is 16 days from now (4 days shipping the kits to the factory. 2 days for re-anodizing. another 4 days shipping back to alsoran for QC. 2 days for QC and packing. 3 days for shipping the kits to the DHL proxy. )
2. Other colors: estimation of shipping date is 6-14 days from now. (Calling back the kits from the shipping company QC and re-packing)
For the dark blue colors, if you're worried about the colors even after re-ano, you can request to change it to another color. Alsoran will take photos for every case before shipping.
I also asked Alsoran to make a powder coating prototype as a possible backup solution. I don't think we are gonna use this solution tho.
A part of money has been defrozen from PayPal.
Post by: Petch on Mon, 30 April 2018, 09:53:40
Post by: xZ3ROx on Mon, 30 April 2018, 10:02:23
Check emails everybody
Nada here...what is the info?
Post by: Petch on Mon, 30 April 2018, 10:14:57
Check emails everybody
Nada here...what is the info?
Sorry, perhaps just got the blue/purple buyers ;D
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 01 May 2018, 20:16:14
I switched colors when we were told https://imgur.com/a/CPw8i
Was the color. I'm not interested in the color if it's as bright as one buyer's pictures indicate it to be. If mine is being reanodized can it just go back to black?
You should be fine to switch to black :thumb:
I emailed Alsoran and he was fine with people requesting the re-anodization to another colour.
Post by: homerowco on Wed, 02 May 2018, 11:52:19
Sorry, perhaps just got the blue/purple buyers ;D
yep!
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 02 May 2018, 15:56:48
Post by: vtachkov on Wed, 02 May 2018, 16:03:07
What colour is the PCB?
Matte black, or close to it.
Post by: floristfran on Thu, 03 May 2018, 01:27:27
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Post by: TriangleLab on Sat, 05 May 2018, 07:43:44
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
Post by: thunderbuttons on Sat, 05 May 2018, 08:30:19
EDIT: All fixed!
Post by: floris on Sat, 05 May 2018, 11:05:16
The kits passed QC will be shipped soon. Pics:
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
My order is marked as shipped in PayPal. But it’s not in this list. Has it been shipped or not?
Post by: xZ3ROx on Sat, 05 May 2018, 11:21:51
Same here.The kits passed QC will be shipped soon. Pics:
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
My order is marked as shipped in PayPal. But it’s not in this list. Has it been shipped or not?
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Post by: fifasarajevo on Sat, 05 May 2018, 23:56:28
Purchased an AL1 kit on /r/mm, when testing/building it the the "9", "O", "L", and "." keys all dont register. They all quickly register the keys in the row around them, but not the key itself. This is my first time building a board on my own, and havent seen this sort of issue before.
Hoping someone is able to provide some info on if its fixable, or if a new PCB is needed.
Thanks
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 00:31:35
Hoping someone can help me out here.In my experience, I've had at least 1 of the below happen with multi key presses:
Purchased an AL1 kit on /r/mm, when testing/building it the the "9", "O", "L", and "." keys all dont register. They all quickly register the keys in the row around them, but not the key itself. This is my first time building a board on my own, and havent seen this sort of issue before.
Hoping someone is able to provide some info on if its fixable, or if a new PCB is needed.
Thanks
1. Screw in stabs, you should always insulate the screws.
2. The atmel chip pins are bridged, on the chip itself where it's soldered to the PCB, this is rare and happened on a very cheap PCB of mine.
3. Incorrectly programmed.
Also note, every PCB was manually desoldered due to a manufacturing fault and re soldered. There is a possible connection.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:20:59
Hoping someone can help me out here.In my experience, I've had at least 1 of the below happen with multi key presses:
Purchased an AL1 kit on /r/mm, when testing/building it the the "9", "O", "L", and "." keys all dont register. They all quickly register the keys in the row around them, but not the key itself. This is my first time building a board on my own, and havent seen this sort of issue before.
Hoping someone is able to provide some info on if its fixable, or if a new PCB is needed.
Thanks
1. Screw in stabs, you should always insulate the screws.
2. The atmel chip pins are bridged, on the chip itself where it's soldered to the PCB, this is rare and happened on a very cheap PCB of mine.
3. Incorrectly programmed.
Also note, every PCB was manually desoldered due to a manufacturing fault and re soldered. There is a possible connection.
I think that might be right. I have screw in stabs. Ill have to give it a shot later. Any ideas on insulating screws? Im assuming just use something like electrical tape between the screw and pcb?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:23:28
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:17:43
The kits passed QC will be shipped soon. Pics:
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
Colors for 10 and 12 turned out darker than what the color chips showed in the original order form, but it's actually fine by me.
10 was green and 12 was "pale purple".
Can't wait to receive it. How long should we anticipate for shipping to take to the US? Just wanted to make sure I will be around to receive it.
Post by: Oatburner on Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:35:07
(https://i.imgur.com/zkhYnhv.jpg)
Hmm...
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 06 May 2018, 20:39:22
"The kits passed QC will be shipped soon"Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zkhYnhv.jpg)
Hmm...
This made me take a second look -- is this a dent?
(https://i.imgur.com/eXjvjkL.jpg)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 06 May 2018, 21:51:07
"The kits passed QC will be shipped soon"Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zkhYnhv.jpg)
Hmm...
This made me take a second look -- is this a dent?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eXjvjkL.jpg)
looks like one to me as well
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 06 May 2018, 23:35:59
- I asked Alsoran to take photos for every case before shipping. He promised but failed to do it for no reasons. That's why some buyers got a tracking number but didn't find the photos. Alsoran told me this after he sent 15 kits out before asking me.
- Alsoran do all the QC. I'm not able to do it because I'm not locally close to him. I emphasized many times that he should do the QC carefully.
- I viewed all the photos Alsoran sent to me. I found the defects on Oatburner's case and told Alsoran. I didn't notice the possible dent on LightningXI's.
- I asked him today again how exactly he did the QC. He said: I TAKE A GLANCE ON THE FRONT SIDE AND THE BOTTOM SIDE AND DON't CHECK CAREFULLY. (WTF???)
Alsoran promised to provide after-sale service to everyone but his words are not that trustworthy to me any more. If you receive a perfect boards, that's fine (I really hope that's the case). If you receive a defect board, I will help you no matter what you want (issues a dispute, ask for a replacement, ask for a refund). I'm not able to refund you directly because Alsoran get all the money. To those who haven't got tracking numbers, hope my words can help you for your decisions, it's still in the 180 days buyer protection.
I'm really sorry for all the issues. I helped Alsoran with the PCB/firmware and run the GB for him for almost no return. All I wanted was to help a friend and make things happen. What I get now is frustration and depression. No matter how regretful I am, what's done is done. I will do my best to help the buyers.
Triangle
Post by: floris on Mon, 07 May 2018, 01:54:33
I'm very disappointed about my friend Alsoran. I didn't want to say it because I'm the GB runner and it looks like I'm shifting responsibility. However, the truth is I did everything I can to push him doing everything right but he broke his words again and again. Here are some facts to make it transparent to everyone:
- I asked Alsoran to take photos for every case before shipping. He promised but failed to do it for no reasons. That's why some buyers got a tracking number but didn't find the photos. Alsoran told me this after he sent 15 kits out before asking me.
- Alsoran do all the QC. I'm not able to do it because I'm not locally close to him. I emphasized many times that he should do the QC carefully.
- I viewed all the photos Alsoran sent to me. I found the defects on Oatburner's case and told Alsoran. I didn't notice the possible dent on LightningXI's.
- I asked him today again how exactly he did the QC. He said: I TAKE A GLANCE ON THE FRONT SIDE AND THE BOTTOM SIDE AND DON't CHECK CAREFULLY. (WTF???)
Alsoran promised to provide after-sale service to everyone but his words are not that trustworthy to me any more. If you receive a perfect boards, that's fine (I really hope that's the case). If you receive a defect board, I will help you no matter what you want (issues a dispute, ask for a replacement, ask for a refund). I'm not able to refund you directly because Alsoran get all the money. To those who haven't got tracking numbers, hope my words can help you for your decisions, it's still in the 180 days buyer protection.
I'm really sorry for all the issues. I helped Alsoran with the PCB/firmware and run the GB for him for almost no return. All I wanted was to help a friend and make things happen. What I get now is frustration and depression. No matter how regretful I am, what's done is done. I will do my best to help the buyers.
Triangle
Thanks for the update, great to see you keep supporting the gb even though your friend ****ed up.
Does anybody know what shipment service has been used? I just got a numeric number and 17track does not recognize it.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Mon, 07 May 2018, 02:24:25
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Post by: floris on Mon, 07 May 2018, 02:29:27
I was able to get details using the DHL website.
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Thanks, DHL does indeed work
Post by: Petch on Mon, 07 May 2018, 07:30:59
Regarding the PayPal 180 days, do you expect the cases that were being re-anno'd to arrive before the end of June?
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 07 May 2018, 09:07:48
The kits passed QC will be shipped soon. Pics:It says my kit passed qc, but my kit in the link is pink.... I am pretty sure I ordered blue...
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
Post by: floris on Mon, 07 May 2018, 09:24:41
The kits passed QC will be shipped soon. Pics:It says my kit passed qc, but my kit in the link is pink.... I am pretty sure I ordered blue...
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
It says color 6 in the spreadsheet, color 6 is pink ( https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg))
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Mon, 07 May 2018, 10:47:46
I'm very disappointed about my friend Alsoran. I didn't want to say it because I'm the GB runner and it looks like I'm shifting responsibility. However, the truth is I did everything I can to push him doing everything right but he broke his words again and again. Here are some facts to make it transparent to everyone:
- I asked Alsoran to take photos for every case before shipping. He promised but failed to do it for no reasons. That's why some buyers got a tracking number but didn't find the photos. Alsoran told me this after he sent 15 kits out before asking me.
- Alsoran do all the QC. I'm not able to do it because I'm not locally close to him. I emphasized many times that he should do the QC carefully.
- I viewed all the photos Alsoran sent to me. I found the defects on Oatburner's case and told Alsoran. I didn't notice the possible dent on LightningXI's.
- I asked him today again how exactly he did the QC. He said: I TAKE A GLANCE ON THE FRONT SIDE AND THE BOTTOM SIDE AND DON't CHECK CAREFULLY. (WTF???)
Alsoran promised to provide after-sale service to everyone but his words are not that trustworthy to me any more. If you receive a perfect boards, that's fine (I really hope that's the case). If you receive a defect board, I will help you no matter what you want (issues a dispute, ask for a replacement, ask for a refund). I'm not able to refund you directly because Alsoran get all the money. To those who haven't got tracking numbers, hope my words can help you for your decisions, it's still in the 180 days buyer protection.
I'm really sorry for all the issues. I helped Alsoran with the PCB/firmware and run the GB for him for almost no return. All I wanted was to help a friend and make things happen. What I get now is frustration and depression. No matter how regretful I am, what's done is done. I will do my best to help the buyers.
Triangle
Sad that he messed up, such a shame that a promising GB went to s**t.
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 07 May 2018, 11:45:42
Correct, but I changed it via pms......The kits passed QC will be shipped soon. Pics:It says my kit passed qc, but my kit in the link is pink.... I am pretty sure I ordered blue...
- Peppermint216: https://imgur.com/a/wtyWbLD
- smittysteve: https://imgur.com/a/TL3bUXS
- sykim0310： https://imgur.com/a/XZznXkN
- Superdoedoe： https://imgur.com/a/RT1Io7O
- forumusername： https://imgur.com/a/yv2JWC1
- /u/Resonance_Wave： https://imgur.com/a/LdVf2xv
- /u/Oatburner： https://imgur.com/a/snGZD8U
- /u/FeelgHoodMuzik： https://imgur.com/a/H0JqHLk
- LightningXI： https://imgur.com/a/eVEqW6L
- Insane_Dawe： https://imgur.com/a/ewUstMe
- afrokobe： https://imgur.com/a/8xP4sqb
If your kit is not in the list, it was returned to the factory for re-ano. All the rest kits except 1 kit will be shipped 17th this month, 3 days later than the previous estimation, because of the unexpected longer vacation. The factory is in the vacation of International Workers' Day and will return to work on Monday.
It says color 6 in the spreadsheet, color 6 is pink ( https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg))
(https://i.imgur.com/XS4NF7v.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/9hJlZGm.png)
Post by: forumusername on Mon, 07 May 2018, 13:20:06
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Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 07 May 2018, 14:31:18
I really hope that the blemish on my qc photo is dirt not a hole or scratch :/Same, although mine look to be on the inside and plate.
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Post by: fifasarajevo on Mon, 07 May 2018, 17:12:59
Tape will do just fine. A cleaner solution would be some nylon, m2 washers.
So I tried using nylon washers and not having stabs in at all, and I still get the same result, those keys register multiples.
Anyone have ideas of what the next thing to try is? Im pretty new to this whole thing, so no clue if I need to get a new PCB, or if there are other avenues to take.
Thanks all
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 07 May 2018, 17:33:56
Tape will do just fine. A cleaner solution would be some nylon, m2 washers.
So I tried using nylon washers and not having stabs in at all, and I still get the same result, those keys register multiples.
Anyone have ideas of what the next thing to try is? Im pretty new to this whole thing, so no clue if I need to get a new PCB, or if there are other avenues to take.
Thanks all
ytachkov, did you build or test your PCB?
Post by: vtachkov on Mon, 07 May 2018, 19:46:21
Tape will do just fine. A cleaner solution would be some nylon, m2 washers.
So I tried using nylon washers and not having stabs in at all, and I still get the same result, those keys register multiples.
Anyone have ideas of what the next thing to try is? Im pretty new to this whole thing, so no clue if I need to get a new PCB, or if there are other avenues to take.
Thanks all
ytachkov, did you build or test your PCB?
I haven't built it yet, but I did test the PCB to make sure all the traces and everything else were good. I didn't have any issues with mine, fortunately.
Post by: prozach on Mon, 07 May 2018, 22:23:44
I opted to switch to all black, however at this point I am wondering if I shoul djust say eff it and take what I get and deal with re-ano locally to me or go with a powder coated option.
I am concerned at this point that this will fall apart and I won't get anything which would be an issue for me (well for my wife, but thats another story)
Aside from QC issues, is there a chance I may not get anything at all now?
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Tue, 08 May 2018, 01:09:52
So at this point, I was one of the new color people.
I opted to switch to all black, however at this point I am wondering if I shoul djust say eff it and take what I get and deal with re-ano locally to me or go with a powder coated option.
I am concerned at this point that this will fall apart and I won't get anything which would be an issue for me (well for my wife, but thats another story)
Aside from QC issues, is there a chance I may not get anything at all now?
You'll receive a kit, that's for sure. Alsoran responded to me saying that the blue / purple ano cases are re-anodised and should be en route now to Alsoran. ETA is three - four days until shipping for those orders.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 08 May 2018, 05:21:06
I would suggest checking the programming is correct. Don't have my board yet so I can't much help you on it.Tape will do just fine. A cleaner solution would be some nylon, m2 washers.
So I tried using nylon washers and not having stabs in at all, and I still get the same result, those keys register multiples.
Anyone have ideas of what the next thing to try is? Im pretty new to this whole thing, so no clue if I need to get a new PCB, or if there are other avenues to take.
Thanks all
Post by: MegalaDump on Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:15:49
The other black top/ red bottom board must be reanodizing as I haven't received any tracking details on it and wasn't on triangle's list. I will also post pictures of it when it arrives.
Regardless of how this group buy is turning out, I'm still really excited to get these boards and only hope that everyone's turns out as close to perfect as possible :thumb:
Post by: xZ3ROx on Tue, 08 May 2018, 11:09:38
Post by: Taeha Types on Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:36:09
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:36:41
Post by: xZ3ROx on Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:41:33
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:02:06
Post by: fifasarajevo on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:29:18
However im getting an error when running the "make al1" command.
Code: [Select]
tmk_core/protocol/lufa/LUFA-git/LUFA/makefile:33: protocol/lufa/LUFA-git/LUFA/Build/lufa_sources.mk: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'protocol/lufa/LUFA-git/LUFA/Build/lufa_sources.mk'. Stop.
I looked at the al1-Firmware files on GitHub, and they match what I have, so no clue why this is coming back as is.
Thanks,
Post by: sykim0310 on Wed, 09 May 2018, 02:31:50
There are stains on the weight surface. These are not erased.
It is entirely satisfactory except for this issue.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 09 May 2018, 02:35:30
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Wed, 09 May 2018, 04:15:06
Today I got mine.
There are stains on the weight surface. These are not erased.
It is entirely satisfactory except for this issue.
Now I seriously doubt how Alsoran does QC.
Post by: forumusername on Wed, 09 May 2018, 10:05:31
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Post by: floris on Wed, 09 May 2018, 10:13:51
Post by: floris on Wed, 09 May 2018, 12:45:26
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 09 May 2018, 12:49:34
The pcb does not seem to be equipped with leds for the indicators. Does anyone know what type of led’s should be used for those?2x3x4 or 1.8mm should work. Pretty much whatever fits in the slot.
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Post by: fifasarajevo on Wed, 09 May 2018, 17:31:54
So my only assumption at this point is a bad PCB, unless anyone else has other ideas to try? Hopefully no one else has the issue.
Thanks
Post by: thunderbuttons on Wed, 09 May 2018, 17:37:30
(https://imgur.com/P8S3D9K.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/fXuCaJV.jpg)
There is a small scratch on the side (see pics), but otherwise it's in good condition. It's _very_ solid.
Post by: Petch on Wed, 09 May 2018, 17:53:29
Well in some sad news, I managed to reflash the board and still get the issue of keys registering as multiples, "O" registers as "QWERTY" and "9" registers as "123456".
So my only assumption at this point is a bad PCB, unless anyone else has other ideas to try? Hopefully no one else has the issue.
Thanks
Can you take some pictures of around that area on the board and around the big chip?
Post by: fifasarajevo on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:08:55
Well in some sad news, I managed to reflash the board and still get the issue of keys registering as multiples, "O" registers as "QWERTY" and "9" registers as "123456".
So my only assumption at this point is a bad PCB, unless anyone else has other ideas to try? Hopefully no one else has the issue.
Thanks
Can you take some pictures of around that area on the board and around the big chip?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fdSz4MdD4FqpxZYF7
Theres a link with photos of the PCB.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:50:22
Chip looks fine to me, make sure no soldered piece on the entire board is bridging/touching each other at all.Well in some sad news, I managed to reflash the board and still get the issue of keys registering as multiples, "O" registers as "QWERTY" and "9" registers as "123456".
So my only assumption at this point is a bad PCB, unless anyone else has other ideas to try? Hopefully no one else has the issue.
Thanks
Can you take some pictures of around that area on the board and around the big chip?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fdSz4MdD4FqpxZYF7
Theres a link with photos of the PCB.
Also check for any damages around the affected keys area.
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:56:10
Post by: fifasarajevo on Wed, 09 May 2018, 19:21:35
Ill clean up all solder tomorrow and retry, hopefully its something like that, thats causing the issue.Chip looks fine to me, make sure no soldered piece on the entire board is bridging/touching each other at all.Well in some sad news, I managed to reflash the board and still get the issue of keys registering as multiples, "O" registers as "QWERTY" and "9" registers as "123456".
So my only assumption at this point is a bad PCB, unless anyone else has other ideas to try? Hopefully no one else has the issue.
Thanks
Can you take some pictures of around that area on the board and around the big chip?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fdSz4MdD4FqpxZYF7
Theres a link with photos of the PCB.
Also check for any damages around the affected keys area.
how did you guys reset your pcbs?
QMK, if you get the files in the original post you should be on your way.
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 09 May 2018, 19:43:40
(https://i.imgur.com/MsDfDoX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4XDXByx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Coyw8PK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/urVc7Bs.jpg)
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The plate seems to be darker than the color I had initially expect. Frankly, it's not too bad for me. And switches seem to fit alright. Switch-top opening is always a nice feature. The anodization is not as even as I would expect from a $300 kit.
The part that annoyed me was whoever packed the package decided to tape the plastic bags containing screws, blockers, etc ONTO the plate, which caused the adhesive to stay on the plate. I had to treat my plate with heat (blow-dryer) and some alcohol to remove the adhesive. It's just extra work that is unnecessary.
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(https://i.imgur.com/nXl5CmR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ae8fKO5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Pk6fGWJ.jpg)
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The case top is in good condition. Again, darker anodization than I anticipated, but I actually enjoy this tone of green.
Minor detail: the bottom side of the top case has burn marks around the screw holes. Not a huge deal since the plate still fits onto the top case, but just an aesthetic blemish.
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(https://i.imgur.com/f3hSwtY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jbnMThM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wW1vQEH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fTJR4rY.jpg)
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Weight is in decent shape. There are some markings (fingerprints, other) that I cannot remove with regular wiping materials. It might need additional polishing, but since this is an inner weight, it does not bother me very much. The AL1 engraving does not look as elegant due to the font of choice. You need to press on the weight to be able to screw it onto the bottom case; it's not difficult at all, but just a note as the width of the weight is not that long.
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(https://i.imgur.com/o26DQLY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VUdw06g.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/21CjWa0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B6CNZ1w.jpg)
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My biggest gripe and something I will have to speak with TriangleLab about: the dent on the back corner of the left side of the bottom case. It's not the largest dent, but it's quite apparent during inspection. I cannot fathom how QC failed to catch this. The anodization of the bottom case is fairly even (the lighting might fool you here), and it's fairly smooth. Definitely not as smooth as some boards I have seen in other custom kits (see MIRA SE, Moon, OTD, EXENT, others).
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(https://i.imgur.com/yrjWEFo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Kg4ihr4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k7fadff.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/08yer2x.jpg)
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The soldering of resistors/diodes is somewhat shoddy on the PCB. Anyhow, I used some pointed tip tweezers to test the PCB on SwitchHitter. The default layout seemed to work out alright. One thing to note, however, is that if you accidentally short a switch pin with an LED pin, you might trigger a bunch of columns and rows simultaneously! So when soldering, watch carefully that you don't cause a short between adjacent LED and switch pins. I have yet to try programming the PCB, but it passed my first test.
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Not pictured were a few little plastic zip-lock bags with screws for the case, bump-ons, an Allen key for the screws, and the WKL blockers.
That's all I have for now, as I am currently very busy with work. I will get back to more updates here later on. I will have to speak with TriangleLab, however, about the bottom case dent, as I am quite disappointed by it. While I would still keep the board, I would not let it pass under full price. Hope this helps to any other GB participants that may be wondering what to expect. The quality of the board is very good, and its heft is quite remarkable. The anodization problems seem to be limited to the NEW (dark blue?) colorway, as the anodization on this board turned out decently well and even, despite it being darker than I anticipated from the color chip samples on the GB order form (this may be a dealbreaker for some!). I would advise most folks to consider being lenient on the inner brass weight, as it won't be visible once the board is assembled.
Let me know if you have any thoughts. TriangleLab, PM incoming.
Post by: ullr on Wed, 09 May 2018, 20:51:26
It sucks but I’m not too worried about it
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:04:07
On a final note, not too terribly upset with the board outside of it not being the color I ordered. So if anyone wants to pick up a pink board with a red plate, please pm me, otherwise I will be working with trianglelab to get a solution for color.
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 10 May 2018, 10:56:49
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:33:57
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 10 May 2018, 13:01:34
https://config.qmk.fm/#/1up60rgb/LAYOUT_all
Post by: fifasarajevo on Thu, 10 May 2018, 18:21:07
Im at the point where I think only a different PCB will solve, unless anyone has any other ideas? If not, anyone know where to start to get a new PCB for this thing? Are they available to purchase any more?
Thanks,
Post by: DukeEsquire on Thu, 10 May 2018, 18:43:05
I haven't received any shipping information on my board. I tried email and received no response.
I have the black board with Kailh copper switches.
Post by: Taeha Types on Thu, 10 May 2018, 18:44:03
Post by: Insane_Dawe on Fri, 11 May 2018, 08:51:00
Initial Impressions
- The box was beat up when it arrived and I was worried that my keyboard would be damaged. The packing was "sufficiently" to keep it safe.
- There are some minor machining imperfections that seem to be pre-anno. It doesn't bother me because they are only noticeable if I have it 6 in from my face. I'm never gonna notice typing on it.
- The spare parts were taped to the plate, which left goo residue. The tape was so strong that I would have 100% confidence they weren't going anywhere but it'd be nice if it didn't need a cleaning
- All the parts fit great, not perfect but very good i.e. no warping, bad tolerances, etc.
- My pcb has a scratch on it reveling the copper, I could imagine it'll start to corrode after a long period of time. When that happens, I'll just design my own.
- The PCB has many options and fit my Zealio switches and Zeal R11 Stabilizers great
- All the screws attached WERE nicely snug and NOT over torqued.
- Keyboard came with extra rubber feet & allen key
- Keyboard heavier than expected (good thing)
Overall, I'm impressed and very happy. Probably because this is my first custom keyboard but I think the price was low and the quality was ~"A-".
I work with small volume production on the daily and all the small niggles that have been showing up suck but I know it could have been much worse.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 11 May 2018, 08:54:56
My keyboard has arrived and I will post pictures up when I get a minute.What is the weight?
Initial Impressions
- The box was beat up when it arrived and I was worried that my keyboard would be damaged. The packing was "sufficiently" to keep it safe.
- There are some minor machining imperfections that seem to be pre-anno. It doesn't bother me because they are only noticeable if I have it 6 in from my face. I'm never gonna notice typing on it.
- The spare parts were taped to the plate, which left goo residue. The tape was so strong that I would have 100% confidence they weren't going anywhere but it'd be nice if it didn't need a cleaning
- All the parts fit great, not perfect but very good i.e. no warping, bad tolerances, etc.
- My pcb has a scratch on it reveling the copper, I could imagine it'll start to corrode after a long period of time. When that happens, I'll just design my own.
- The PCB has many options and fit my Zealio switches and Zeal R11 Stabilizers great
- All the screws attached WERE nicely snug and NOT over torqued.
- Keyboard came with extra rubber feet & allen key
- Keyboard heavier than expected (good thing)
Overall, I'm impressed and very happy. Probably because this is my first custom keyboard but I think the price was low and the quality was ~"A-".
I work with small volume production on the daily and all the small niggles that have been showing up suck but I know it could have been much worse.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 11 May 2018, 09:09:35
My keyboard has arrived and I will post pictures up when I get a minute.
Initial Impressions
- The box was beat up when it arrived and I was worried that my keyboard would be damaged. The packing was "sufficiently" to keep it safe.
- There are some minor machining imperfections that seem to be pre-anno. It doesn't bother me because they are only noticeable if I have it 6 in from my face. I'm never gonna notice typing on it.
- The spare parts were taped to the plate, which left goo residue. The tape was so strong that I would have 100% confidence they weren't going anywhere but it'd be nice if it didn't need a cleaning
- All the parts fit great, not perfect but very good i.e. no warping, bad tolerances, etc.
- My pcb has a scratch on it reveling the copper, I could imagine it'll start to corrode after a long period of time. When that happens, I'll just design my own.
- The PCB has many options and fit my Zealio switches and Zeal R11 Stabilizers great
- All the screws attached WERE nicely snug and NOT over torqued.
- Keyboard came with extra rubber feet & allen key
- Keyboard heavier than expected (good thing)
Overall, I'm impressed and very happy. Probably because this is my first custom keyboard but I think the price was low and the quality was ~"A-".
I work with small volume production on the daily and all the small niggles that have been showing up suck but I know it could have been much worse.
Fortunately for you, the PCB file is open-sourced in the OP (first post of the thread)! :)
Post by: fifasarajevo on Fri, 11 May 2018, 09:52:08
So for me, is that the way to go about getting a new PCB? With mine having issues registering certain keys, that seems like the only way, unless I can get one from the runners of the group buy?My keyboard has arrived and I will post pictures up when I get a minute.
Initial Impressions
- The box was beat up when it arrived and I was worried that my keyboard would be damaged. The packing was "sufficiently" to keep it safe.
- There are some minor machining imperfections that seem to be pre-anno. It doesn't bother me because they are only noticeable if I have it 6 in from my face. I'm never gonna notice typing on it.
- The spare parts were taped to the plate, which left goo residue. The tape was so strong that I would have 100% confidence they weren't going anywhere but it'd be nice if it didn't need a cleaning
- All the parts fit great, not perfect but very good i.e. no warping, bad tolerances, etc.
- My pcb has a scratch on it reveling the copper, I could imagine it'll start to corrode after a long period of time. When that happens, I'll just design my own.
- The PCB has many options and fit my Zealio switches and Zeal R11 Stabilizers great
- All the screws attached WERE nicely snug and NOT over torqued.
- Keyboard came with extra rubber feet & allen key
- Keyboard heavier than expected (good thing)
Overall, I'm impressed and very happy. Probably because this is my first custom keyboard but I think the price was low and the quality was ~"A-".
I work with small volume production on the daily and all the small niggles that have been showing up suck but I know it could have been much worse.
Fortunately for you, the PCB file is open-sourced in the OP (first post of the thread)! :)
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 11 May 2018, 09:52:53
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 11 May 2018, 09:55:09
What clasicks said is true. The OP/GB runner has been responsive, professional, and helpful despite the setbacks. I think he can help you.So for me, is that the way to go about getting a new PCB? With mine having issues registering certain keys, that seems like the only way, unless I can get one from the runners of the group buy?My keyboard has arrived and I will post pictures up when I get a minute.
Initial Impressions
- The box was beat up when it arrived and I was worried that my keyboard would be damaged. The packing was "sufficiently" to keep it safe.
- There are some minor machining imperfections that seem to be pre-anno. It doesn't bother me because they are only noticeable if I have it 6 in from my face. I'm never gonna notice typing on it.
- The spare parts were taped to the plate, which left goo residue. The tape was so strong that I would have 100% confidence they weren't going anywhere but it'd be nice if it didn't need a cleaning
- All the parts fit great, not perfect but very good i.e. no warping, bad tolerances, etc.
- My pcb has a scratch on it reveling the copper, I could imagine it'll start to corrode after a long period of time. When that happens, I'll just design my own.
- The PCB has many options and fit my Zealio switches and Zeal R11 Stabilizers great
- All the screws attached WERE nicely snug and NOT over torqued.
- Keyboard came with extra rubber feet & allen key
- Keyboard heavier than expected (good thing)
Overall, I'm impressed and very happy. Probably because this is my first custom keyboard but I think the price was low and the quality was ~"A-".
I work with small volume production on the daily and all the small niggles that have been showing up suck but I know it could have been much worse.
Fortunately for you, the PCB file is open-sourced in the OP (first post of the thread)! :)
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
GB runner has been pretty supportive and open so far, you should PM Trianglelab here on GH
Sent from my mobile using Tapatalk
Post by: fifasarajevo on Fri, 11 May 2018, 09:58:03
Ok cool. I'll PM him. Thanks all.What clasicks said is true. The OP/GB runner has been responsive, professional, and helpful despite the setbacks. I think he can help you.So for me, is that the way to go about getting a new PCB? With mine having issues registering certain keys, that seems like the only way, unless I can get one from the runners of the group buy?My keyboard has arrived and I will post pictures up when I get a minute.
Initial Impressions
- The box was beat up when it arrived and I was worried that my keyboard would be damaged. The packing was "sufficiently" to keep it safe.
- There are some minor machining imperfections that seem to be pre-anno. It doesn't bother me because they are only noticeable if I have it 6 in from my face. I'm never gonna notice typing on it.
- The spare parts were taped to the plate, which left goo residue. The tape was so strong that I would have 100% confidence they weren't going anywhere but it'd be nice if it didn't need a cleaning
- All the parts fit great, not perfect but very good i.e. no warping, bad tolerances, etc.
- My pcb has a scratch on it reveling the copper, I could imagine it'll start to corrode after a long period of time. When that happens, I'll just design my own.
- The PCB has many options and fit my Zealio switches and Zeal R11 Stabilizers great
- All the screws attached WERE nicely snug and NOT over torqued.
- Keyboard came with extra rubber feet & allen key
- Keyboard heavier than expected (good thing)
Overall, I'm impressed and very happy. Probably because this is my first custom keyboard but I think the price was low and the quality was ~"A-".
I work with small volume production on the daily and all the small niggles that have been showing up suck but I know it could have been much worse.
Fortunately for you, the PCB file is open-sourced in the OP (first post of the thread)! :)
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
GB runner has been pretty supportive and open so far, you should PM Trianglelab here on GH
Sent from my mobile using Tapatalk
Also for the question of weight. I weighed the board without PCB and switches in, it was right at 4lbs. So likely goes to 5 with PCB, switches, and keycaps.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Post by: ullr on Fri, 11 May 2018, 19:43:57
I ordered the plate that was split right shift and backspace only (“BS and right shift are all split only. No compatible slots.”), but not only does it support 2u backspace it actually does not support split backspace. It is always irritating to have to cut the plate myself so I am disappointed this seems to have been overlooked.
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 12 May 2018, 00:31:40
One gripe
I ordered the plate that was split right shift and backspace only (“BS and right shift are all split only. No compatible slots.”), but not only does it support 2u backspace it actually does not support split backspace. It is always irritating to have to cut the plate myself so I am disappointed this seems to have been overlooked.
What does it look like? Can we get a pic to see what's going on?
Post by: olivia on Sat, 12 May 2018, 01:06:24
One gripe
I ordered the plate that was split right shift and backspace only (“BS and right shift are all split only. No compatible slots.”), but not only does it support 2u backspace it actually does not support split backspace. It is always irritating to have to cut the plate myself so I am disappointed this seems to have been overlooked.
What does it look like? Can we get a pic to see what's going on?
I had the same problem :/ Sorry about the poor angle, but you can see that the backspace doesn't support split bs.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363576233037922304/443863830628532225/IMG_20180509_155605.jpg)
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 12 May 2018, 01:51:04
(https://i.imgur.com/BdDDc7L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DOdI6yS.jpg)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 01:55:00
That's quite an oversight.
Post by: superdoedoe on Sat, 12 May 2018, 05:02:01
Post by: Petch on Sat, 12 May 2018, 08:08:00
Time to invest in a dremel I guess???
Post by: TriangleLab on Sat, 12 May 2018, 09:40:08
I have asked him to order 6 more split-BS plates for those who ordered type 2 plates. They will be finished around next Wednesday. Don't assemble your kit if you are not in a hurry.
Apparently this GB has become a disaster with all the quality issues, mistakes, and delays. I do my best to save it.
Please feel free to contact me if your kit has any problems.
Post by: Petch on Sat, 12 May 2018, 10:10:35
I just asked alsoran about the type 2 plates. The picture he sent to me for confirmation was correct, but he made them wrong in the manufacturing.
I have asked him to order 6 more split-BS plates for those who ordered type 2 plates. They will be finished around next Wednesday. Don't assemble your kit if you are not in a hurry.
Apparently this GB has become a disaster with all the quality issues, mistakes, and delays. I do my best to save it.
Please feel free to contact me if your kit has any problems.
Thanks for the continued effort
I'm guessing the ones that haven't shipped (due to being re-anno'd) will be shipped a little later with the split-BS plate now?
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:38:19
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:40:26
I finallygot a tracking number, shipper is other... I am not sure where I can check its stautsDHL was used I believe.
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:43:18
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 10:52:11
DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 15 May 2018, 10:56:03
Shipping from Taiwan?
DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
Someone said Hong Kong proxy
Post by: prozach on Tue, 15 May 2018, 11:50:19
Post by: noricon on Tue, 15 May 2018, 11:51:51
Post by: Petch on Tue, 15 May 2018, 12:29:47
DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
I thought these were supposed to get marked down
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 12:34:39
DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
I thought these were supposed to get marked down
Without any devalue it would be at least £60. Assuming it is the AL1, I have too many things coming.
Post by: floris on Tue, 15 May 2018, 16:59:02
DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
I thought these were supposed to get marked down
Was valued at $100 on my package
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:02:53
Can you check your old tracking and see if it departed from Taiwan please?DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
I thought these were supposed to get marked down
Was valued at $100 on my package
Post by: floris on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:05:06
Can you check your old tracking and see if it departed from Taiwan please?DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
I thought these were supposed to get marked down
Was valued at $100 on my package
Departed from Hong Kong
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 16 May 2018, 06:23:24
Mine also came from HKCan you check your old tracking and see if it departed from Taiwan please?DHL just text me wanting £27 tax but I don't know what for other than its come from Taiwan.
I thought these were supposed to get marked down
Was valued at $100 on my package
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Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 16 May 2018, 09:36:29
Mine also came from HK
Now I'm really curious to know what it is, coming Friday.
Post by: homerowco on Wed, 16 May 2018, 16:35:01
Without any devalue it would be at least £60. Assuming it is the AL1, I have too many things coming.
Undervalued to $100 is perfectly fine with me. I have to pay 23% so best case $77, worst case if they add duty its another 9%, which appears to happen here randomly, then its 32% or $108... at $100 it's only $23, I can live with that :D
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:49:31
Packaging was pretty bad, when the driver brought it I thought how is there a keyboard in this thin box. When I opened it the board was filthy, marks and dust etc, there was even a cobweb in the stiletto side bit.
After a clean-up I am pretty happy with how it turned out, my only flaws seem to be on the inside. The weight is a mess and oddly the underside of it is clean aside from the machining marks. All the visible exterior pieces seem ok but not flawless, passable for the price.
Some comparison photos with a blackbird below:
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Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:55:41
So my Taiwanese package arrived today. It was indeed the AL1.
Packaging was pretty bad, when the driver brought it I thought how is there a keyboard in this thin box. When I opened it the board was filthy, marks and dust etc, there was even a cobweb in the stiletto side bit.
After a clean-up I am pretty happy with how it turned out, my only flaws seem to be on the inside. The weight is a mess and oddly the underside of it is clean aside from the machining marks. All the visible exterior pieces seem ok but not flawless, passable for the price.
Some comparison photos with a blackbird below:
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Good thing it arrived safely, despite the somewhat lacking packaging. Looks good.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:58:41
Post by: Petch on Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:25:46
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:27:50
In that last picture, the seam looks quite big towards the middle. Optical illusion, not tightly screwed together, or ???
No Illusions, that side will not close up :(
Post by: xZ3ROx on Thu, 17 May 2018, 13:17:37
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 13:57:51
In that last picture, the seam looks quite big towards the middle. Optical illusion, not tightly screwed together, or ???This would be why....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180517/80beb9589eb1aeceee9a52d4443a09bb.jpg)
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 18 May 2018, 10:52:33
Alsoran just shipped 5 kits (/u/homerowco， /u/terrymathews， /u/IIBorNotIIB， /u/Soggy_Stargazer， /u/speaktobrett). The photos (https://imgur.com/a/lKzLzYy) look good to me. He will fill in the tracking numbers tomorrow.
There are totally 10 kits left including the replacement ones: Petch, /u/immaterium, odd, Oatburner, FeelHoodMuzik, noricon, MegalaDump, A10J12. These 10 kits, following replacement kits, and the 6 type 2 plates, are manufactured by ALF. The original factory did a bad work and was not cooperative so Alsoran asked ALF for help. I assume ALF will be much more reliable than the previous factory. 6 of the 10 kits have already been finished by ALF and are waiting to be shipped. ALF will ship the 6 kits to Alsoran for QC tomorrow. The left 4 kits need more time to be manufactured. I will have the name list of the 6 kits tomorrow.
I just travelled from the US to Shanghai, China this week. Was being pretty busy. Sorry for the late update.
If the kits you received have quality issues, please send me a PM. Don't send emails to me because I can't access gmail currently in China. You can also send photos to Alsoran (508881408@qq.com). He can't read English tho.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 19 May 2018, 16:59:12
Quick update:
Alsoran just shipped 5 kits (/u/homerowco， /u/terrymathews， /u/IIBorNotIIB， /u/Soggy_Stargazer， /u/speaktobrett). The photos (https://imgur.com/a/lKzLzYy) look good to me. He will fill in the tracking numbers tomorrow.
There are totally 10 kits left including the replacement ones: Petch, /u/immaterium, odd, Oatburner, FeelHoodMuzik, noricon, MegalaDump, A10J12. These 10 kits, following replacement kits, and the 6 type 2 plates, are manufactured by ALF. The original factory did a bad work and was not cooperative so Alsoran asked ALF for help. I assume ALF will be much more reliable than the previous factory. 6 of the 10 kits have already been finished by ALF and are waiting to be shipped. ALF will ship the 6 kits to Alsoran for QC tomorrow. The left 4 kits need more time to be manufactured. I will have the name list of the 6 kits tomorrow.
I just travelled from the US to Shanghai, China this week. Was being pretty busy. Sorry for the late update.
If the kits you received have quality issues, please send me a PM. Don't send emails to me because I can't access gmail currently in China. You can also send photos to Alsoran (508881408@qq.com). He can't read English tho.
I did change my order to black, and received email confirmation.
Very exciting! Thanks
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 19 May 2018, 17:01:42
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 21 May 2018, 22:14:02
Quick update:
Alsoran just shipped 5 kits (/u/homerowco， /u/terrymathews， /u/IIBorNotIIB， /u/Soggy_Stargazer， /u/speaktobrett). The photos (https://imgur.com/a/lKzLzYy) look good to me. He will fill in the tracking numbers tomorrow.
There are totally 10 kits left including the replacement ones: Petch, /u/immaterium, odd, Oatburner, FeelHoodMuzik, noricon, MegalaDump, A10J12. These 10 kits, following replacement kits, and the 6 type 2 plates, are manufactured by ALF. The original factory did a bad work and was not cooperative so Alsoran asked ALF for help. I assume ALF will be much more reliable than the previous factory. 6 of the 10 kits have already been finished by ALF and are waiting to be shipped. ALF will ship the 6 kits to Alsoran for QC tomorrow. The left 4 kits need more time to be manufactured. I will have the name list of the 6 kits tomorrow.
I just travelled from the US to Shanghai, China this week. Was being pretty busy. Sorry for the late update.
If the kits you received have quality issues, please send me a PM. Don't send emails to me because I can't access gmail currently in China. You can also send photos to Alsoran (508881408@qq.com). He can't read English tho.
So, how bout day tracking?
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 22 May 2018, 10:43:06
I haven't seen any updates for my board yet and I don't see my name on the list of people waiting for their boards.
Can you please check?
Invoice #AL0027
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 25 May 2018, 10:32:35
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Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 25 May 2018, 10:38:34
Is there a way to 'fix' the blemished weights?You could try using a brass polish and seeing how that goes.
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Post by: Petch on Fri, 25 May 2018, 10:38:50
Is there a way to 'fix' the blemished weights?
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Probably sand + repolish + recoat
Post by: TriangleLab on Fri, 25 May 2018, 21:04:15
Finished and will be shipped on next Monday:
odd,
/u/Oatburner,
/u/noricon,
xZ3ROx,
LightningXI
Will be finished in the next week (estimated by ALF):
Petch,
/u/immaterium,
FeelHoodMuzik,
MegalaDump,
A10J12
These are all the remaining kit waiting to be fulfilled including the replacement cases required by buyers. Please tell me if you haven't received your kit and your name is not listed here.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 25 May 2018, 21:05:54
The status of ALF-made AL1 kits (some are replacement cases):
Finished and will be shipped on next Monday:
odd,
/u/Oatburner,
/u/noricon,
xZ3ROx,
LightningXI
Will be finished in the next week (estimated by ALF):
Petch,
/u/immaterium,
FeelHoodMuzik,
MegalaDump,
A10J12
These are all the remaining kit waiting to be fulfilled including the replacement cases required by buyers. Please tell me if you haven't received your kit and your name is not listed here.
Thanks for the update. Will we receive shipment notification / tracking information as well?
Post by: floristfran on Sat, 26 May 2018, 07:36:55
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sat, 26 May 2018, 08:22:42
The status of ALF-made AL1 kits (some are replacement cases):
Finished and will be shipped on next Monday:
odd,
/u/Oatburner,
/u/noricon,
xZ3ROx,
LightningXI
Will be finished in the next week (estimated by ALF):
Petch,
/u/immaterium,
FeelHoodMuzik,
MegalaDump,
A10J12
These are all the remaining kit waiting to be fulfilled including the replacement cases required by buyers. Please tell me if you haven't received your kit and your name is not listed here.
Hi,
My name is not on there.
/r/flashcats.
Post by: olivia on Sat, 26 May 2018, 08:55:27
The status of ALF-made AL1 kits (some are replacement cases):
Finished and will be shipped on next Monday:
odd,
/u/Oatburner,
/u/noricon,
xZ3ROx,
LightningXI
Will be finished in the next week (estimated by ALF):
Petch,
/u/immaterium,
FeelHoodMuzik,
MegalaDump,
A10J12
These are all the remaining kit waiting to be fulfilled including the replacement cases required by buyers. Please tell me if you haven't received your kit and your name is not listed here.
Will the fixed option 2 plates ship after these?
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 27 May 2018, 04:58:36
Thanks for the update. Will we receive shipment notification / tracking information as well?
Alsoran will fill in the tracking numbers on paypal. I can tell you your tracking number on Discord.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 27 May 2018, 05:02:50
Hi,
My name is not on there.
/r/flashcats.
Will get back to you in 24 hours.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 27 May 2018, 05:04:55
Will the fixed option 2 plates ship after these?
The fixed option 2 plates will be shipped about the same time as the last batch AL1 kits.
Post by: TriangleLab on Sun, 27 May 2018, 05:07:08
When I click "messages", it says "Database Error. Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator."
Anyone know what's the problem?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 27 May 2018, 06:01:17
I have two unread messages on Geekhack but I can't read them right now.Geekhack was not working at all for me yesterday, sound like it's having temporary problems.
When I click "messages", it says "Database Error. Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator."
Anyone know what's the problem?
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 27 May 2018, 08:18:20
Post by: forumusername on Sun, 27 May 2018, 08:36:43
PMs were from me. Let me know if you want me to communicate with you in another way.I also sent a PM
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Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 27 May 2018, 10:01:19
PMs were from me. Let me know if you want me to communicate with you in another way.
I actually sent two PMs myself.
Lol.
Post by: forumusername on Mon, 28 May 2018, 07:52:25
How else can we contact you TriangleLab
Post by: prozach on Mon, 28 May 2018, 23:37:25
Post by: forumusername on Tue, 29 May 2018, 12:46:32
It seems like there is still issues with PM on Geekhack.@trianglelab is there an alternate way to contact you?
How else can we contact you TriangleLab
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Post by: noricon on Tue, 29 May 2018, 15:16:32
The status of ALF-made AL1 kits (some are replacement cases):
Finished and will be shipped on next Monday:
odd,
/u/Oatburner,
/u/noricon,
xZ3ROx,
LightningXI
Will be finished in the next week (estimated by ALF):
Petch,
/u/immaterium,
FeelHoodMuzik,
MegalaDump,
A10J12
These are all the remaining kit waiting to be fulfilled including the replacement cases required by buyers. Please tell me if you haven't received your kit and your name is not listed here.
I have not received my shipping notification yet (not sure if next Monday is what I was thinking.) Is there a way to contact you via discord since GH seems to be broken at the moment?
Thanks!
Post by: Carifio24 on Tue, 29 May 2018, 17:32:57
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 29 May 2018, 19:59:48
So the only way to do that is to short the pins on the atmega32u4....sigh.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:00:58
I have not received my shipping notification yet (not sure if next Monday is what I was thinking.) Is there a way to contact you via discord since GH seems to be broken at the moment?
Thanks!
It seems like there is still issues with PM on Geekhack.
How else can we contact you TriangleLab
I can receive emails now. I just bought a VPN account.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:07:26
I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere, but I can't seem to find it: how do you put the keyboard into flashing mode for using DFU programmer?
The manufacturer forgot to put a reset key in the default layout, they also omitted a physical reset key.
So the only way to do that is to short the pins on the atmega32u4....sigh.
There are two pins between G and H keys. Using tweezers to short these two pins is the correct way.
Post by: forumusername on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:20:22
I have not received my shipping notification yet (not sure if next Monday is what I was thinking.) Is there a way to contact you via discord since GH seems to be broken at the moment?
Thanks!It seems like there is still issues with PM on Geekhack.
How else can we contact you TriangleLab
I can receive emails now. I just bought a VPN account.
What email address should we use? kbalsoran@gmail.com?
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:29:01
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 30 May 2018, 06:42:43
What email address should we use? kbalsoran@gmail.com?
yes.
Post by: Carifio24 on Thu, 31 May 2018, 11:30:32
I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere, but I can't seem to find it: how do you put the keyboard into flashing mode for using DFU programmer?The manufacturer forgot to put a reset key in the default layout, they also omitted a physical reset key.
So the only way to do that is to short the pins on the atmega32u4....sigh.
There are two pins between G and H keys. Using tweezers to short these two pins is the correct way.
Thank you both for the info. I've never reset a board with like this before - so I just have the pins connected with a tweezer (or something else metal) when I turn on the PCB?
Post by: fifasarajevo on Thu, 31 May 2018, 11:40:43
https://goo.gl/images/qoKyykI'm sure this is mentioned somewhere, but I can't seem to find it: how do you put the keyboard into flashing mode for using DFU programmer?The manufacturer forgot to put a reset key in the default layout, they also omitted a physical reset key.
So the only way to do that is to short the pins on the atmega32u4....sigh.
There are two pins between G and H keys. Using tweezers to short these two pins is the correct way.
Thank you both for the info. I've never reset a board with like this before - so I just have the pins connected with a tweezer (or something else metal) when I turn on the PCB?
If you go to that image, it had the layout of the chip the Pcb uses.
Pin 13 is the reset pin. Do have the board connected to your PC, then touch that pin with a paperclip and it will set it to flash mode.
Make sure you pin 13 corresponds with the image. So align the chip the same way as the picture.
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Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 01 June 2018, 11:45:16
Sorry to keep pinging you via this forum, but I still don't have any update on my board.
Last I hear a week ago was that it was being shipped and I would receive shipping information soon.
I don't have any shipping information. I also never received a response if my board passed QC. Obviously, I would like any QC issues to be resolved before the board is shipped.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Sat, 02 June 2018, 00:34:50
Post by: watchy0ubac on Sat, 02 June 2018, 03:37:24
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 02 June 2018, 03:39:23
I'm sure this is a long shot but are there any extras available for this? I completely missed out but would like to pick a board up in this style.terrymathews is selling his on reddit
Post by: watchy0ubac on Sat, 02 June 2018, 03:42:39
I'll probably shoot him an offer, he's asking a fair bit over the original cost is all, thanks for the heads up :)I'm sure this is a long shot but are there any extras available for this? I completely missed out but would like to pick a board up in this style.terrymathews is selling his on reddit
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 02 June 2018, 08:34:50
I'll probably shoot him an offer, he's asking a fair bit over the original cost is all, thanks for the heads up :)I'm sure this is a long shot but are there any extras available for this? I completely missed out but would like to pick a board up in this style.terrymathews is selling his on reddit
By the time you add in shipping, insurance, and PayPal's cut it's not that much over but to each their own.
I'll always take less if you are willing to accept USPS potentially destroying your item at your expense. Insurance isn't cheap.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sun, 03 June 2018, 05:11:28
So does anyone know how to enable the caps, scroll, and num LEDs? Im at a loss, as to how to enable them.
Please let me know if you find out how to do this! :)
Also, has anyone built their kits yet??
I'd love to see them :))
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 03 June 2018, 10:56:14
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Post by: fifasarajevo on Sun, 03 June 2018, 10:58:41
Lol I've been trying, not so experienced with QMK but will get there.So does anyone know how to enable the caps, scroll, and num LEDs? Im at a loss, as to how to enable them.
Please let me know if you find out how to do this! :)
Also, has anyone built their kits yet??
I'd love to see them :))
I built mine, only to realize the spacebar stabilizer was off and it was holding the keycaps down after a press, requiring a desolder of the whole thing. Not fun. Hopefully lubing the stabs fixes that.
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Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 03 June 2018, 12:31:07
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 03 June 2018, 15:23:06
I've been getting the silent treatment (last communication was 6 days ago telling me that my keyboard would be shipping out the next day).
Post by: Petch on Sun, 03 June 2018, 15:45:35
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 03 June 2018, 16:32:01
I'm going to give them another week and if I still don't hear back, I'll have to see what my options are.
Post by: TriangleLab on Tue, 05 June 2018, 03:26:31
These last 6 buyers' kits have been anodized by ALF and are on the way to Alsoran's place. The type 2 plates are the same.
Post by: forumusername on Tue, 05 June 2018, 05:06:19
All the PMs have been replied. I suppose everyone except the following 6 buyers has either received the kit or the tracking number: Petch, /u/immaterium, FeelHoodMuzik, MegalaDump, A10J12, floristfran. PM me if not.You did not reply to my previous message.
These last 6 buyers' kits have been anodized by ALF and are on the way to Alsoran's place. The type 2 plates are the same.
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Post by: fifasarajevo on Wed, 06 June 2018, 20:17:08
Anyone else managed to get them working?
Post by: xZ3ROx on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:15:03
The status of ALF-made AL1 kits (some are replacement cases):
Finished and will be shipped on next Monday:
odd,
/u/Oatburner,
/u/noricon,
xZ3ROx,
LightningXI
Will be finished in the next week (estimated by ALF):
Petch,
/u/immaterium,
FeelHoodMuzik,
MegalaDump,
A10J12
These are all the remaining kit waiting to be fulfilled including the replacement cases required by buyers. Please tell me if you haven't received your kit and your name is not listed here.
so uhm, was the replacement case shipped?
Post by: noricon on Sun, 10 June 2018, 22:56:57
Thanks!
Post by: vtachkov on Sun, 10 June 2018, 23:22:09
Is there an updated status on porting the keyboard over to QMK?
Thanks!
The keyboard should already support QMK by default. Looks like the pull request is good to go, https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/3049. It just needs to be merged into master. You could also just check out the original repo trianglelab made and copy it to your qmk directory.
Post by: odd on Mon, 11 June 2018, 18:04:18
Is there an updated status on porting the keyboard over to QMK?
Thanks!
I got my replacement case last week,hope this info helps.
Post by: driftingbunnies on Mon, 11 June 2018, 18:29:59
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Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 11 June 2018, 18:32:05
No luck on my end regarding getting the Print Num and Caps LEDs to work.
Anyone else managed to get them working?
I had Alsoran build my keyboard and my caps lock and num lock LEDs work.
I'm not sure if the third LED does anything.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Mon, 11 June 2018, 18:44:15
No luck on my end regarding getting the Print Num and Caps LEDs to work.
Anyone else managed to get them working?
I had Alsoran build my keyboard and my caps lock and num lock LEDs work.
I'm not sure if the third LED does anything.
Hmm, im guessing he enabled them via QMK, I havent looked in the last few days on how to do it, will try to look again this weekend most likely. Hopefully I can find something that enables them in the build.
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 11 June 2018, 22:29:04
Is there an updated status on porting the keyboard over to QMK?
Thanks!
The keyboard should already support QMK by default. Looks like the pull request is good to go, https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/3049. It just needs to be merged into master. You could also just check out the original repo trianglelab made and copy it to your qmk directory.
The Pull Request is not good to go. Olivia has been busy and hasn't had the opportunity to make the requested changes. I'll probably volunteer my services if she doesn't get to it.
Post by: floris on Tue, 12 June 2018, 01:34:25
No luck on my end regarding getting the Print Num and Caps LEDs to work.
Anyone else managed to get them working?
I had Alsoran build my keyboard and my caps lock and num lock LEDs work.
I'm not sure if the third LED does anything.
Hmm, im guessing he enabled them via QMK, I havent looked in the last few days on how to do it, will try to look again this weekend most likely. Hopefully I can find something that enables them in the build.
All 3 leds worked out of the box for me. Be sure to solder the third one the other way around as the first two. The third one has the pins flipped.
Third one is for scroll lock by default.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Tue, 12 June 2018, 07:22:46
Yeah I have them soldered in correctly, it just doesn't seem like they're active anywhere. Like nothing is sending the signal to them to turn on. Same thing with 2 PCBs, and apparently others have had the same issue with the build.No luck on my end regarding getting the Print Num and Caps LEDs to work.
Anyone else managed to get them working?
I had Alsoran build my keyboard and my caps lock and num lock LEDs work.
I'm not sure if the third LED does anything.
Hmm, im guessing he enabled them via QMK, I havent looked in the last few days on how to do it, will try to look again this weekend most likely. Hopefully I can find something that enables them in the build.
All 3 leds worked out of the box for me. Be sure to solder the third one the other way around as the first two. The third one has the pins flipped.
Third one is for scroll lock by default.
Likely just a small thing that needs changing in the build files.
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Post by: noricon on Tue, 12 June 2018, 08:58:28
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 12 June 2018, 19:22:25
I am having trouble where I press a key such as "Q", and the keypress comes out as "qwerty".
I will press "1", and the keypress will appear as "12345".
I am wondering whether something may be shorting out?
I do have washers inbetween my screw in stabs though...
Post by: fifasarajevo on Tue, 12 June 2018, 19:50:46
Anyone had any issues with their builds?
I am having trouble where I press a key such as "Q", and the keypress comes out as "qwerty".
I will press "1", and the keypress will appear as "12345".
I am wondering whether something may be shorting out?
I do have washers inbetween my screw in stabs though...
I had the exact same thing except down the 9,O,L,.,RALT line.
Still no clue if I caused it or if the PCB was busted from the beginning, but I had to get a replacement PCB which now works fine. You can try what I did, specifically re-flashing the board, cleaning the PCB to make sure there isnt anything causing it to short as well. Probably want to contact Triangle Lab to go further than that.
Post by: odd on Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:29:25
PCB 1. All keys work except the keypad 1 and 5. Typing those keys spit out random gibberish like there is a bridge on the controller pin or something. I have verified there are no bridges or anything with the controller or the traces to those keys.
PCB 2. Only about a third of the keys work on the left side of the board, none of the key register on the right side except the bottom arrow keys.
PCB 3. again about a third or less of the keys work on the whole PCB. I have not mapped them out yet but plan to do so.
On all 3 PCB's I can see nothing wrong with the chips, all traces look fine. I did notice that 1 of the boards (a replacement) has different diodes then the other 2 so I don't think it's them. All LED's work on all 3 boards from what i can tell. I am wondering if any QA was done on these PCB's since there was poor QA on the cases themselves. I have not sent any PM's yet to the GB runners I was hoping someone here has a idea or something. This is so strange I have never had this happen on any previous GB's before and much less all 3 of my PCB's being faulty.
edit:
This is the exact behavior my PCB's are doing
Anyone had any issues with their builds?
I am having trouble where I press a key such as "Q", and the keypress comes out as "qwerty".
I will press "1", and the keypress will appear as "12345".
I am wondering whether something may be shorting out?
I do have washers inbetween my screw in stabs though...
I had the exact same thing except down the 9,O,L,.,RALT line.
Still no clue if I caused it or if the PCB was busted from the beginning, but I had to get a replacement PCB which now works fine. You can try what I did, specifically re-flashing the board, cleaning the PCB to make sure there isnt anything causing it to short as well. Probably want to contact Triangle Lab to go further than that.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Thu, 14 June 2018, 11:43:10
has anyone gotten a PCB that 100% works? I have 3 PCB's and all 3 have something wrong with them. Here are the issues I have
PCB 1. All keys work except the keypad 1 and 5. Typing those keys spit out random gibberish like there is a bridge on the controller pin or something. I have verified there are no bridges or anything with the controller or the traces to those keys.
PCB 2. Only about a third of the keys work on the left side of the board, none of the key register on the right side except the bottom arrow keys.
PCB 3. again about a third or less of the keys work on the whole PCB. I have not mapped them out yet but plan to do so.
On all 3 PCB's I can see nothing wrong with the chips, all traces look fine. I did notice that 1 of the boards (a replacement) has different diodes then the other 2 so I don't think it's them. All LED's work on all 3 boards from what i can tell. I am wondering if any QA was done on these PCB's since there was poor QA on the cases themselves. I have not sent any PM's yet to the GB runners I was hoping someone here has a idea or something. This is so strange I have never had this happen on any previous GB's before and much less all 3 of my PCB's being faulty.
edit:
This is the exact behavior my PCB's are doingAnyone had any issues with their builds?
I am having trouble where I press a key such as "Q", and the keypress comes out as "qwerty".
I will press "1", and the keypress will appear as "12345".
I am wondering whether something may be shorting out?
I do have washers inbetween my screw in stabs though...
I had the exact same thing except down the 9,O,L,.,RALT line.
Still no clue if I caused it or if the PCB was busted from the beginning, but I had to get a replacement PCB which now works fine. You can try what I did, specifically re-flashing the board, cleaning the PCB to make sure there isnt anything causing it to short as well. Probably want to contact Triangle Lab to go further than that.
I had Alsoran build my board.
All the keys work although I'm not sure how to access scroll lock so I don't know if the third LED works.
Post by: ullr on Thu, 14 June 2018, 13:27:37
This is after I built and reflashed the default firmware as well
EDIT: nevermind, I’m an idiot
I just had numlock on :)) never knew ‘5’ became clear in that instance.
Post by: floris on Fri, 15 June 2018, 16:25:26
What i did notice is the indicators do not work when it's connected to my mac.
I did build the hex file using the latest qmk firmware (pasted the al1 specific files into the qmk dir), maybe that makes a difference.
Post by: Petch on Mon, 18 June 2018, 03:13:18
All the PMs have been replied. I suppose everyone except the following 6 buyers has either received the kit or the tracking number: Petch, /u/immaterium, FeelHoodMuzik, MegalaDump, A10J12, floristfran. PM me if not.
These last 6 buyers' kits have been anodized by ALF and are on the way to Alsoran's place. The type 2 plates are the same.
Has anyone got tracking info yet?
Post by: TriangleLab on Mon, 18 June 2018, 03:36:24
Has anyone got tracking info yet?
Hi Petch, your kit was shipped to the DHL proxy last week. They should have already generated the tracking number but haven't updated to Alsoran as it's the Dragon Boad Festival Holiday in China. You will find the tracking number on Paypal tomorrow.
Post by: Oatburner on Mon, 18 June 2018, 06:04:10
Has anyone got tracking info yet?
Hi Petch, your kit was shipped to the DHL proxy last week. They should have already generated the tracking number but haven't updated to Alsoran as it's the Dragon Boad Festival Holiday in China. You will find the tracking number on Paypal tomorrow.
Hi Triangle, I have also not received a tracking number. I believe my kit was being re-made by Alf
Post by: Taeha Types on Mon, 18 June 2018, 11:38:42
Post by: Petch on Wed, 20 June 2018, 06:16:45
Has anyone got tracking info yet?
Hi Petch, your kit was shipped to the DHL proxy last week. They should have already generated the tracking number but haven't updated to Alsoran as it's the Dragon Boad Festival Holiday in China. You will find the tracking number on Paypal tomorrow.
Still no tracking number :(
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 21 June 2018, 09:07:32
Hi Triangle, I have also not received a tracking number. I believe my kit was being re-made by Alf
Still no tracking number :(
Same here as well
As far as I know, your kits (among the last 5 kits) are still holding by the Chinese DHL proxy. Alsoran was supposed to provide them with your addresses on Monday or Tuesday so they can generate the tracking numbers. He returned to his hometown this week and wasn't able to provide the info. He just said he can fill in the tracking numbers tomorrow.
I really hate to tell you the shipping is delayed for some reasons. I was merely reporting what Alsoran said but he was not irresponsible for his words sometimes. I hope he can answer your questions by himself so I won't be so embarrassed. However, he can't speak English, which is the reason he asked me to run the GB for him. I'm sorry for the troubles.
Post by: Petch on Thu, 21 June 2018, 09:21:31
Hi Triangle, I have also not received a tracking number. I believe my kit was being re-made by Alf
Still no tracking number :(Same here as well
As far as I know, your kits (among the last 5 kits) are still holding by the Chinese DHL proxy. Alsoran was supposed to provide them with your addresses on Monday or Tuesday so they can generate the tracking numbers. He returned to his hometown this week and wasn't able to provide the info. He just said he can fill in the tracking numbers tomorrow.
I really hate to tell you the shipping is delayed for some reasons. I was merely reporting what Alsoran said but he was not irresponsible for his words sometimes. I hope he can answer your questions by himself so I won't be so embarrassed. However, he can't speak English, which is the reason he asked me to run the GB for him. I'm sorry for the troubles.
My only concern is the paypal 6 month window is closing in a week or two for me. I don't mind the shipping delay itself, but I don't want to risk having it arrive after the cutoff date in bad condition
Post by: Oatburner on Mon, 25 June 2018, 13:11:46
I received my AL1 today and am very disappointed in how it was shipped. There is a large gash on the top frame. The brass weight was not screwed in place nor taped down, which ended up bending the plate. It seems like the screws for the weight were thrown in with the case and were not bagged. The silver WKL blockers are also missing.
Please see the PM I sent you regarding this.
https://imgur.com/a/ogWZsb1
Thank you
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Mon, 25 June 2018, 13:24:50
Hi Triangle,
I received my AL1 today and am very disappointed in how it was shipped. There is a large gash on the top frame. The brass weight was not screwed in place nor taped down, which ended up bending the plate. It seems like the screws for the weight were thrown in with the case and were not bagged. The silver WKL blockers are also missing.
Please see the PM I sent you regarding this.
https://imgur.com/a/ogWZsb1
Thank you
Are those punctures/holes in the box where something ripped through the box into the keyboard?
Post by: Oatburner on Mon, 25 June 2018, 13:30:53
Hi Triangle,
I received my AL1 today and am very disappointed in how it was shipped. There is a large gash on the top frame. The brass weight was not screwed in place nor taped down, which ended up bending the plate. It seems like the screws for the weight were thrown in with the case and were not bagged. The silver WKL blockers are also missing.
Please see the PM I sent you regarding this.
https://imgur.com/a/ogWZsb1
Thank you
Are those punctures/holes in the box where something ripped through the box into the keyboard?
The one on the top left of the box lines up with where the big gash on the corner is, but the foam wrapping didn't look like it had been torn so that may have been a coincidence.
Post by: immaterium on Mon, 25 June 2018, 19:17:26
Mine was one of the new blue which was re-anno'd by ALF. My first impression of the color when seeing it in person was very blue and less dark purple. I didn't think something was off with the color until I opened the WKL blockers; which are a very different color (https://imgur.com/y0rYPjj).
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 26 June 2018, 04:44:41
Post by: Taeha Types on Tue, 26 June 2018, 19:34:32
Post by: fifasarajevo on Sat, 30 June 2018, 21:01:54
To the point where I thought it might be my LEDs that arent working, so I soldered on some that I tested and they wont light up, which leads me to believe either the PCB is faulty regarding the indicator LEDs (not a big deal, but would be nice to know if that was the case, or I need to make changes in QMK.
Im not well versed in QMK so the changes I did try didnt work.
This appears to be where the LEDs are activated in the QMK files provided by TriangleLab, in the AL1.c file specifically. Anyone have an idea of what to change here, if im supposed to change anything at all?
Code: [Select]
void led_set_kb(uint8_t usb_led) {
CONFIG_LED_IO;
print_dec(usb_led);
if (usb_led & (1<<USB_LED_CAPS_LOCK))
PORTB &= ~(1<<7);
else
PORTB |= (1<<7);
if (usb_led & (1<<USB_LED_NUM_LOCK))
PORTD &= ~(1<<0);
else
PORTD |= (1<<0);
if (usb_led & (1<<USB_LED_SCROLL_LOCK))
PORTD &= ~(1<<1);
else
PORTD |= (1<<1);
led_set_user(usb_led);I believe a couple other people have the same issue as me where the LEDs arent set by default.
Post by: xZ3ROx on Sun, 01 July 2018, 23:53:01
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Post by: Petch on Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:34:57
Also I've PM'd you TriangleLab regarding some issues...
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 06 July 2018, 19:56:01
Please visit: https://config.qmk.fm/#/al1/LAYOUT
For help using the configurator, please follow my instructions at https://github.com/mechmerlin/qmk_setup/blob/master/qmk_configurator.md
Post by: immaterium on Sat, 07 July 2018, 16:07:24
I get the following error when compiling. I checked the layers and there aren't any random keys present. Keymap attached.
Code: [Select]
Compiling: lib/lufa/LUFA/Drivers/USB/Core/USBTask.c
Linking: .build/al1_al1_layout_split_bs_mine.elf
|
| .build/obj_al1_al1_layout_split_bs_mine/keyboards/al1/al1.o: In function `matrix_init_kb':
| /qmk_compiler_worker/qmk_firmware/keyboards/al1/al1.c:19: undefined reference to `matrix_init_user'
| .build/obj_al1_al1_layout_split_bs_mine/keyboards/al1/al1.o: In function `matrix_scan_kb':
| /qmk_compiler_worker/qmk_firmware/keyboards/al1/al1.c:23: undefined reference to `matrix_scan_user'
| collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
|
tmk_core/rules.mk:284: recipe for target '.build/al1_al1_layout_split_bs_mine.elf' failed
makeine.elf] Error 1
Makefile:534: recipe for target 'al1:al1_layout_split_bs_mine' failed
make: *** ine] Error 1
ake finished with errors
Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 09 July 2018, 10:32:17
https://config.qmk.fm/#/al1/LAYOUT
Post by: immaterium on Tue, 10 July 2018, 05:37:24
Post by: Petch on Tue, 10 July 2018, 05:39:15
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 10 July 2018, 12:09:51
How can we reflash the default firmware (since there's no RESET key), bridge some pins?
Yeah unfortunately the default firmware did not include a reset key and there is no physical hardware reset key either. You'll do exactly as you described.
Post by: TriangleLab on Wed, 11 July 2018, 07:56:04
How can we reflash the default firmware (since there's no RESET key), bridge some pins?
Hi Petch, you can bridge the two pins between G and H keys. There's a slot on the plate at that place so you can reset the PCB without opening the case. Just remove the keycaps of G and H, then bridge the two pins with tweezers.
Post by: floristfran on Wed, 11 July 2018, 16:35:28
if anyone could help that would be great
Post by: Petch on Wed, 11 July 2018, 16:36:28
so im building my board and it works perfectly other than the fact that the arrows and 1,2,3,0,. and enter. on the numpad are moved over by 1 (so left is down is . right is left, 1 is 2, 2 is 3 etc, any idea what the problem is? i was having issues where w, s, and x would press every key on that row, but i fixed that by resoldering the x so the solder didnt touch the led pad, but nothing seems to be making contact with it so idk. thinking it might have something to do with the split shift? bc that doesnt seem to do anything at all.
if anyone could help that would be great
I'm having issues with the nav cluster and numpad also
Will do a pull request if I manage to fix it but I'm new to QMK so
Post by: prozach on Sun, 15 July 2018, 10:45:00
My case is warped from left to right so that the lower left corner and upper right corner are lower than the upperleft and lower right.
It causes the case to rock.
Top and bottom are warped in the same direction.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:16:18
Anyone else have a warped case?
My case is warped from left to right so that the lower left corner and upper right corner are lower than the upperleft and lower right.
It causes the case to rock.
Top and bottom are warped in the same direction.
might be your desk but that's weird
Post by: xZ3ROx on Sun, 15 July 2018, 23:05:03
Anyone else have a warped case?Mime also rocks. Sent a message to trianglelab and never received no reply and time has passed to complain to PayPal.
My case is warped from left to right so that the lower left corner and upper right corner are lower than the upperleft and lower right.
It causes the case to rock.
Top and bottom are warped in the same direction.
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Post by: prozach on Mon, 16 July 2018, 13:48:23
Anyone else have a warped case?
My case is warped from left to right so that the lower left corner and upper right corner are lower than the upperleft and lower right.
It causes the case to rock.
Top and bottom are warped in the same direction.
might be your desk but that's weird
The rock in the case exists across the same axis regardless of orientation on my desk.
ie, the keyboard rocks in the same direction relative to the case itself whether it is placed parallel or perpendicular to the edge of my desk or whether it is on its base or on its face.
Its most certainly the keyboard case itself and not my desk.
Post by: immaterium on Sat, 28 July 2018, 11:35:04
When 3 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When 5 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When 0 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When e is pressed, qwerty is output.
When t is pressed, qwerty is output.
I notice that these are following the same tracks down to the chip. There are other keys that output incorrect combinations and I can list them all if that would help. I can't see any damage to the tracks. I've tried re-flashing the board.
I can live with some cosmetic errors with the board, but it's unusable right now. Looking for any help here.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Sat, 28 July 2018, 11:46:36
I built the keyboard but it's nonfunctional. Key presses are triggering other keys.Same thing that a few of us had it seems. You may want to PM TriangleLab about this.
When 3 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When 5 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When 0 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When e is pressed, qwerty is output.
When t is pressed, qwerty is output.
I notice that these are following the same tracks down to the chip. There are other keys that output incorrect combinations and I can list them all if that would help. I can't see any damage to the tracks. I've tried re-flashing the board.
I can live with some cosmetic errors with the board, but it's unusable right now. Looking for any help here.
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Post by: immaterium on Sat, 28 July 2018, 16:15:53
Post by: speaktobrett on Sun, 29 July 2018, 23:01:12
I built the keyboard but it's nonfunctional. Key presses are triggering other keys.
When 3 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When 5 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When 0 is pressed, 123456 is output.
When e is pressed, qwerty is output.
When t is pressed, qwerty is output.
I notice that these are following the same tracks down to the chip. There are other keys that output incorrect combinations and I can list them all if that would help. I can't see any damage to the tracks. I've tried re-flashing the board.
I can live with some cosmetic errors with the board, but it's unusable right now. Looking for any help here.
I've got that same issue.
I've pm'd triangle aswell, I'll let you know how it goes.
Post by: immaterium on Mon, 30 July 2018, 05:47:54
Post by: speaktobrett on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:43:37
Triangle got back to me yesterday. He explained to me this is all due to solder bridging switch and LED pads. I've made progress and got a good 80% of the board working. Still one corner giving me trouble, but it looks promising.
The issue with my pcb appears to be more of a fault with the pcb, rather than the soldering.
I have desoldered and resoldered particular switches with no luck. Some of the keypresses appear as "12345", while others appear as multiple keypresses at once, e.g "ESC, TAB, CTRL, ENTER".
Some keypresses occur on the downstroke, and others on the upstroke.
Also testing the pcb on particular switch points and tweezers displays multiple keypresses.
Post by: speaktobrett on Fri, 03 August 2018, 01:03:34
Post by: odd on Tue, 07 August 2018, 08:32:09
Has anyone been able to get a response from TriangleLab??
I have 3 PCB's and all of mine did what you are describing. Here is what fixed my issues all from Triangle's info. You need to make sure there are no bridges from the LED holes to anything else. Since the board is super tight there are bridges where the LED holes are touching other holes. I had never see this happen with any other PCB before and I did not believe it at first because I had PCB's I never touch exhibit this behavior. I went over 1 board with solder wire and cleaned all the bridges I saw and sure enough the PCB worked as it should have. I fixed the other 2 PCB's I had and all of them worked after that. Strange I know but that is what worked for me and like i said all my boards now work perfect.
I hope this info might help you and others out. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll do m,y best to help you out.
Post by: forumusername on Wed, 15 August 2018, 20:05:00
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 15 August 2018, 20:18:46
This is really strange... I needed to reflash my al1 and now that I have the FN keys also press one. I had 0 issues for months with this pcb it seems to be software related rather than hardware any ideas?
Could you elaborate more on your problem. What do you mean by "have the FN keys also press one"?
Post by: forumusername on Wed, 15 August 2018, 20:22:09
This is really strange... I needed to reflash my al1 and now that I have the FN keys also press one. I had 0 issues for months with this pcb it seems to be software related rather than hardware any ideas?
Could you elaborate more on your problem. What do you mean by "have the FN keys also press one"?
When I press the FN key (either the one by right shift or where right alt would be FN works (I tested with FN reset only so far) but it also outputs 1. I originally though that I programmed wrong and changed the FN1 to FN2 and then it outputs a two as well.... I am a little out of my element with this I hope this is more useful
edit: thanks for the help mechmerlin...
In short he provided a hex for me to flash that is working perfectly. When I try to compile myself from the onilne configurator or via qmk repo It results in the sofware not working. TriangleLab's qmk is very outdated to the point that you cannot even flash it with proper qmk.
I wonder if the issues that people have been having that were thought to be hardeware problems may be firmware problems.
Thanks again mechmerlin
Post by: prozach on Mon, 20 August 2018, 14:23:03
I have confirmed that my board is working as I expect, I tweaked my layout to make it work the way I want but the backlight commands don't seem to be working properly.
Rolled back to the stock FW and they still don't work.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Mon, 20 August 2018, 14:36:12
This is really strange... I needed to reflash my al1 and now that I have the FN keys also press one. I had 0 issues for months with this pcb it seems to be software related rather than hardware any ideas?
Could you elaborate more on your problem. What do you mean by "have the FN keys also press one"?
When I press the FN key (either the one by right shift or where right alt would be FN works (I tested with FN reset only so far) but it also outputs 1. I originally though that I programmed wrong and changed the FN1 to FN2 and then it outputs a two as well.... I am a little out of my element with this I hope this is more useful
edit: thanks for the help mechmerlin...
In short he provided a hex for me to flash that is working perfectly. When I try to compile myself from the onilne configurator or via qmk repo It results in the sofware not working. TriangleLab's qmk is very outdated to the point that you cannot even flash it with proper qmk.
I wonder if the issues that people have been having that were thought to be hardeware problems may be firmware problems.
Thanks again mechmerlin
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Post by: forumusername on Fri, 24 August 2018, 19:50:09
You able to provide that hex by chance?Here is the hexThis is really strange... I needed to reflash my al1 and now that I have the FN keys also press one. I had 0 issues for months with this pcb it seems to be software related rather than hardware any ideas?
Could you elaborate more on your problem. What do you mean by "have the FN keys also press one"?
When I press the FN key (either the one by right shift or where right alt would be FN works (I tested with FN reset only so far) but it also outputs 1. I originally though that I programmed wrong and changed the FN1 to FN2 and then it outputs a two as well.... I am a little out of my element with this I hope this is more useful
edit: thanks for the help mechmerlin...
In short he provided a hex for me to flash that is working perfectly. When I try to compile myself from the onilne configurator or via qmk repo It results in the sofware not working. TriangleLab's qmk is very outdated to the point that you cannot even flash it with proper qmk.
I wonder if the issues that people have been having that were thought to be hardeware problems may be firmware problems.
Thanks again mechmerlin
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479461029592563712/479467967592005642/al1_default.hex
Post by: merlin64 on Sat, 25 August 2018, 00:59:37
You able to provide that hex by chance?Here is the hexThis is really strange... I needed to reflash my al1 and now that I have the FN keys also press one. I had 0 issues for months with this pcb it seems to be software related rather than hardware any ideas?
Could you elaborate more on your problem. What do you mean by "have the FN keys also press one"?
Can you give the configurator another try? It should be working now.
When I press the FN key (either the one by right shift or where right alt would be FN works (I tested with FN reset only so far) but it also outputs 1. I originally though that I programmed wrong and changed the FN1 to FN2 and then it outputs a two as well.... I am a little out of my element with this I hope this is more useful
edit: thanks for the help mechmerlin...
In short he provided a hex for me to flash that is working perfectly. When I try to compile myself from the onilne configurator or via qmk repo It results in the sofware not working. TriangleLab's qmk is very outdated to the point that you cannot even flash it with proper qmk.
I wonder if the issues that people have been having that were thought to be hardeware problems may be firmware problems.
Thanks again mechmerlin
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479461029592563712/479467967592005642/al1_default.hex
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 25 August 2018, 20:25:34
You able to provide that hex by chance?Here is the hexThis is really strange... I needed to reflash my al1 and now that I have the FN keys also press one. I had 0 issues for months with this pcb it seems to be software related rather than hardware any ideas?
Could you elaborate more on your problem. What do you mean by "have the FN keys also press one"?
Can you give the configurator another try? It should be working now.
When I press the FN key (either the one by right shift or where right alt would be FN works (I tested with FN reset only so far) but it also outputs 1. I originally though that I programmed wrong and changed the FN1 to FN2 and then it outputs a two as well.... I am a little out of my element with this I hope this is more useful
edit: thanks for the help mechmerlin...
In short he provided a hex for me to flash that is working perfectly. When I try to compile myself from the onilne configurator or via qmk repo It results in the sofware not working. TriangleLab's qmk is very outdated to the point that you cannot even flash it with proper qmk.
I wonder if the issues that people have been having that were thought to be hardeware problems may be firmware problems.
Thanks again mechmerlin
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479461029592563712/479467967592005642/al1_default.hex
Hey mechmerlin looks like the hex I made from the configurator is working properly cheers m8
Post by: immaterium on Wed, 29 August 2018, 19:44:05
One question for those who added LEDs to their builds... do your LEDs remain on when the computer is powered off? Mine do and I haven't seen this behavior before.
Post by: speaktobrett on Thu, 30 August 2018, 06:28:28
If it is just his qmk file that is the issue, after telling so many people that their soldering is the problem.. then that is poor form.
Post by: TriangleLab on Thu, 30 August 2018, 07:06:34
To be honest, i am disappointed with how trianglelab has handled this.
If it is just his qmk file that is the issue, after telling so many people that their soldering is the problem.. then that is poor form.
wait, what do you mean by "qmk file that is the issue"? I'm still pretty sure the most problems were caused by the soldering. Actually, I don't know a single case the problem was from the QMK files. The QMK files were all open sourced. Can you spot where the problems come from?
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 31 August 2018, 16:11:05
The following is a commentary on qmk_firmware's version of the TriangleLabs AL1 firmware and not a commentary on the original source contained in their Repo.
The TriangleLabs AL1 firmware was ported as-is to qmk_firmware on GitHub. Minimal work was done to get it to compile and to have it supported by the QMK Configurator. The work can be seen on Pull Request 3330, 3339, and 3357.
This however was incorrect as it led to some issues. TriangleLabs was using the old way of doing function layers instead of calling the MO function. This led to some issues reported by individuals in which pressing the function key did not work as intended. This was experienced mostly by those who built hexes using the command line while using the default keymap, or creating their own by modifying the default keymap.
This was fixed by me in Pull Request 3675
Unfortunately one problem remained and was strictly associated with people who exclusively used the QMK Configurator to create their hex files. The arrows and part of the numpad were in the wrong spaces. This issue can be attributed to me as I was unable to check my work.
This issue was fixed by noroadsleft in Pull Request 3716.
The other issues reported by people in this thread are not related to QMK.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 31 August 2018, 19:12:10
So that people aren't too confused I'll put up my findings from my point of view.
The following is a commentary on qmk_firmware's version of the TriangleLabs AL1 firmware and not a commentary on the original source contained in their Repo.
The TriangleLabs AL1 firmware was ported as-is to qmk_firmware on GitHub. Minimal work was done to get it to compile and to have it supported by the QMK Configurator. The work can be seen on Pull Request 3330, 3339, and 3357.
This however was incorrect as it led to some issues. TriangleLabs was using the old way of doing function layers instead of calling the MO function. This led to some issues reported by individuals in which pressing the function key did not work as intended. This was experienced mostly by those who built hexes using the command line while using the default keymap, or creating their own by modifying the default keymap.
This was fixed by me in Pull Request 3675
Unfortunately one problem remained and was strictly associated with people who exclusively used the QMK Configurator to create their hex files. The arrows and part of the numpad were in the wrong spaces. This issue can be attributed to me as I was unable to check my work.
This issue was fixed by noroadsleft in Pull Request 3716.
The other issues reported by people in this thread are not related to QMK.
Awesome explanation of what happened. Thanks for your due diligence, Merlin!
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:20:29
Hey are you guys also known as Fox Labs or are affiliated in some way?
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:05:37
@TriangleLab
Hey are you guys also known as Fox Labs or are affiliated in some way?
No, they're not. Fox Labs is run by senter.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 26 November 2018, 23:58:09
Literally was plugged into my computer and all of a sudden disconnected and now I can't get my computer to detect it. I think the PCB must have died.
RIP $450 board. Got to use it for less than 1 year...
This has been by far the most disappointing GB I've ever been a part of.
Post by: Oatburner on Tue, 27 November 2018, 00:07:26
Not that it matters to most people at this point, but my AL1 was working fine and all of a sudden died.
Literally was plugged into my computer and all of a sudden disconnected and now I can't get my computer to detect it. I think the PCB must have died.
RIP $450 board. Got to use it for less than 1 year...
This has been by far the most disappointing GB I've ever been a part of.
I believe the firmware is open source so it could be repaired. But I agree. My replacement case top was made from a different factory than the bottom piece, so the difference between the two finishes is stark. Not a good experience with this one.
Post by: Insane_Dawe on Wed, 13 February 2019, 14:39:31
Not that it matters to most people at this point, but my AL1 was working fine and all of a sudden died.
Literally was plugged into my computer and all of a sudden disconnected and now I can't get my computer to detect it. I think the PCB must have died.
RIP $450 board. Got to use it for less than 1 year...
This has been by far the most disappointing GB I've ever been a part of.
Check in device manager if you can see the AL1. I checked in windows under devices and could still see it but the keyboard wasn't responding.I re-flashed the QMK firmware and it works again.
Anyone run into a backlight issue where they cannot toggle it off? I had no problem with the original firmware on my keyboard but after building it using the QMK repo, the blacklight toggle button enables or disables breathing instead of disabling backlight.
Currently digging through the QMK code to find the "LED" configuration but it's gonna take me a minute.
Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 13 February 2019, 16:00:34
No lights turn on or anything when I plug in the board.
I'm guessing that that QC on the PCB is shoddy and it may have somehow shorted out.
Post by: Insane_Dawe on Thu, 14 February 2019, 07:29:22
PCBs usually don't fail after a year, they will either fail initially (<3 Days) or after 10+ years. Since it happened in November, I'm guessing it was ESD (Static Electricity and a couple other things). When I last glanced at the board, I don't remember seeing supplementary ESD protection.
Good news is that this board is open source, you can always send out this board to a cheap PCB supplier and get another one. PCBWAY (https://www.pcbway.com/) is my go to but people also use OSHPark (https://oshpark.com/) and others.
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 14 February 2019, 15:43:23
what do you mean it disables breathing? Like the lights turn off? Or the lights stay on and are a solid color?
Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 18 February 2019, 15:38:29
It should show up as a HID Keyboard Device in the device manager, an easier way to check is Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Devices and Printers.
PCBs usually don't fail after a year, they will either fail initially (<3 Days) or after 10+ years. Since it happened in November, I'm guessing it was ESD (Static Electricity and a couple other things). When I last glanced at the board, I don't remember seeing supplementary ESD protection.
Good news is that this board is open source, you can always send out this board to a cheap PCB supplier and get another one. PCBWAY (https://www.pcbway.com/) is my go to but people also use OSHPark (https://oshpark.com/) and others.
I fixed it!
I reflashed the board and it worked again. Thanks for all your help!
Post by: Insane_Dawe on Thu, 21 February 2019, 07:58:48
@Insane_Dawe
what do you mean it disables breathing? Like the lights turn off? Or the lights stay on and are a solid color?
As the code currently compiles, lights are always on, regardless of what the back light setting is set to. I tried the other back light modes and all I could trigger is breathing or always on. My guess is that the pin isn't configured correctly. The board uses a PMOS with a external pull-up, so the pin should be configured either low for on or hi-z for off.
I've been sidetracked with another project, so I haven't had time to dig through the code to see how the pins are configured.
I fixed it!
I reflashed the board and it worked again. Thanks for all your help!
:thumb: I'm glad it was that easy.
Post by: merlin64 on Sat, 23 February 2019, 19:59:05
@Insane_Dawe
what do you mean it disables breathing? Like the lights turn off? Or the lights stay on and are a solid color?
As the code currently compiles, lights are always on, regardless of what the back light setting is set to. I tried the other back light modes and all I could trigger is breathing or always on. My guess is that the pin isn't configured correctly. The board uses a PMOS with a external pull-up, so the pin should be configured either low for on or hi-z for off.
I've been sidetracked with another project, so I haven't had time to dig through the code to see how the pins are configured.
I fixed it!
I reflashed the board and it worked again. Thanks for all your help!
:thumb: I'm glad it was that easy.
Ahh ok, I get it now. The only animation currently set is the breathing animation and on/off. There's nothing "broken", it's just that the other animations have been turned off. I can turn them on later.
EDIT: I guess breathing and on/off are currently the only available options: https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/features/feature_backlight
Post by: Insane_Dawe on Fri, 01 March 2019, 15:15:18
Ahh ok, I get it now. The only animation currently set is the breathing animation and on/off. There's nothing "broken", it's just that the other animations have been turned off. I can turn them on later.
EDIT: I guess breathing and on/off are currently the only available options: https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/features/feature_backlight
The issue I'm running into is that there is no "off". I can switch through the modes and enable On & Breathing but I can't get my LEDs to "Off" mode.
My first guess is that it's software since I was able to turn the LEDs off before the software got wiped from my keyboard but it could be damaged hardware.
Post by: fifasarajevo on Mon, 30 January 2023, 15:58:56