Post by: Stormlex on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:09:52
By soran & Stormlex
(https://i.imgur.com/jmlHVeK.jpg)
What, why and who?
The general idea behind the Decent65 was making a classic top mount 65 percent keyboard, which would have the looks while still maintaining a not over the top price. So this is a no-fuss, low height board with bezels on the thicker side.
It was born from an idea of mine and have been brought to life by soran - who was responsible for doing the actual design work.
Designed, engineered and manufactured in Europe. The prototype seen in the pictures is made by Salvun, https://www.instagram.com/salvun/ (https://www.instagram.com/salvun/), who also will be making the final product.
Features
- 65% keyboard with blocker at arrows
- 6060 aluminum case
- Anodization color options: black, gray
and silver, burgundy/dark red and purple - Semi-fixed aluminum plate in either ANSI or ISO (Plate files will be released if people want to have them made in other materials)
- Top mount
- 7 degrees angle
- Bottom front ledge to keep the front low, just shy of 16 mm (without bumpons)
- Standardized ai03 daughter board with USB C
- Alignment pins for top and bottom
- No internal or external weight
- 1.11 kg (Case+plate) and around 1.4 kg built
- QMK-compatible PCB with JST connector for daughter board
- Manufactured by Salvun in Belgium
(excl. shipping)
US and RotW: $255
EU: 275 (Incl. VAT)
The group buy is intended to be run through mykeyboard.eu, who also will be handling QC, after IC is concluded and decisions has been made.
Please fill out the IC form if you are interested in buying this keyboard, if you are interested in optional cerakoting and/or would like to suggest any additions.
IC form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1N63LK9F-_nwFeblm_Xy3TGvAEI7nicBnFCG5v7FgUJs (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1N63LK9F-_nwFeblm_Xy3TGvAEI7nicBnFCG5v7FgUJs)
If you have any opinions that you want to share that's not in the IC form, please reply to this post.
Join the mykeyboard discord server for ongoing discussions and updates: https://discord.mykeyboard.eu/ (https://discord.mykeyboard.eu/)
Layout options
(https://i.imgur.com/XZYyKAl.jpg)
Click for more pictures of the prototype
More
Prototype is anodized in black with silver plate
Outdoor photos courtesy of NecrowomanX:
(https://i.imgur.com/qH1yLmA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UrX1gPz.jpg)
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Pictures of the prototype (Non color-corrected cellphone pics):
(https://i.imgur.com/kkdAG8q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jmlHVeK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CXoZDF1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XvyRshp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nZQ1Pu2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lu64ye1.jpg)
Details (Non color-corrected cellphone pics):
(https://i.imgur.com/TPpsH0J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X2caNEv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/43NaJyd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ScyYdbC.jpg)
Details:
(https://i.imgur.com/tDNWm84.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jtULj8W.jpg)
Prototype manufacturing pictures (Courtesy of Salvun)
(https://i.imgur.com/I0Sd5uA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1cwruct.jpg)
Finishing of with some more angled shots:
(https://i.imgur.com/jSa7ALC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jmlHVeK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Kr1ttmj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IqBSMaq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qdtJ2Re.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K1Vnm74.jpg)
Thanks goes out to:
- soran for the excellent design work and ideas
- NecromanX & NecrowomanX for taking care of a lot of stuff and agreeing to run this on mykeyboard.eu
- Salvun for his machining skills and overall great dude
- Zambumon "No. Use a daughter board"
..and yes, I noticed that the down arrow in one of the pictures wasn't properly seated.
Thank you for considering.
Regards
(https://i.imgur.com/2lSWCd8.jpg)
soran & Stormlex
Update 2020-03-14
1) After some brainstorming, we have decided that the available anodisation colours are going to be:
- Black
- Grey
- Burgundy
- Dark Purple
(https://i.imgur.com/ucSPiHz.png)
2) Since I felt that it should be addressed - cerakoting should be around 50 on top of the GB price.
3) Hotswap, rgb or changes to the top (winkeyless, removing blocker) - are out of question. That part of the design has be finalized.
Update 2020-03-26
The prototype was sent to soran, got lost due to corona lockdown in Poland, got found again and is now in the hands of soran.
There will hopefully be a build-stream done by him shortly.
We (or well NecromanX atleast) are currently also working on a US/NA proxy since that has been some comments on that in the IC form.
Stay tuned
Update 2020-04-04
We have an approximate go-live date fellas!
April 18:th is the goal to get this started, and there is now an US proxy onboard; the esteemed NovelKeys.
Last but not least: a typing test done by soran himself. Check it out:
Update 2020-04-16
IC form is now closed since groupbuy will be live Saturday 18/4.
Update 2020-04-17
GB thread is now up. Head over to:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105811.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105811.0)
Post by: Morbus on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:16:48
Post by: hkiri on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:19:07
Post by: belgium_waffles on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:27:59
Post by: Stormlex on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:40:00
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Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:40:42
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Post by: nicole_loke_richards on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:42:08
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Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 09 March 2020, 04:08:35
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Post by: Crack85 on Mon, 09 March 2020, 05:38:20
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Post by: eniigma on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:01:01
Post by: dantambok on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:40:11
Post by: Serious salamander on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:51:11
Post by: Stormlex on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:17:17
Loving the price and no fuss aesthetics.
Thank you!
Post by: Stormlex on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:18:21
best name
No, it's a decent name
Post by: bobdenard on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:19:31
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:20:04
Post by: Serious salamander on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:37:38
best name
No, it's a decent name
These puns are indecent.
Alright, I'm sold. Filled out IC form, and I'll note here as well that I'd definitely be willing to pay for other colors.
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:46:30
Post by: bobgr8 on Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:03:22
Post by: ViciousVerbivore on Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:06:45
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:38:59
https://mekanisk.co/products/wt60-d
Post by: ThePanduuh on Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:48:34
Post by: Stormlex on Mon, 09 March 2020, 09:00:02
since you're going with alum plate as a standard, any chance in putting some flex cuts in the PCB to help soften out the downstroke even more? Something similar to Wilba's WT60 shown here:
https://mekanisk.co/products/wt60-d
It's a good point, but since we aim for decent, no-fussyness, it might be a bit overkill. But your point is noted.
Post by: sirieous on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:27:15
Post by: Serious salamander on Mon, 09 March 2020, 11:39:02
Post by: OmniSzron on Mon, 09 March 2020, 12:33:09
Post by: soran on Mon, 09 March 2020, 13:15:18
Nice board. I'm puzzled by the bezels, though. Are they uniform or is there a slight difference in bezel width between the top+bottom and left+right ones? Aside from that, my only complaint would be the visible seam on the side, but I guess making a seamless design is a bit more costly, due to increased material and machining costs.
To answer your question about the bezels, yes, the top one is actually bigger by 3mm when compared to the bottom and sides.
since you're going with alum plate as a standard, any chance in putting some flex cuts in the PCB to help soften out the downstroke even more? Something similar to Wilba's WT60 shown here:
https://mekanisk.co/products/wt60-d
That wouldn't really change that much, but if you want to get a different plate material, we will be releasing the files for them once the groupbuy is done!
And I'd like to also include a response to some of the replies in the form:
1) as of now, we aren't planning on having the PCBs be hotswap nor have them have RGB.
2) for reference on the cerakote pricing, here is a screencap of Salvun's post in his channel on mykeyboard's discord server. (https://i.imgur.com/kRHSxhh.png)
3) no plans for weight or different case material.
4) anodisation colours will stay as they are - we wanted to be rather safe with that.
5) We won't be changing the mount, sorry.
Post by: tuxkey on Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:24:17
Can i still ask for wants or is this a done deal ??
- can we get indicator leds like on the NK65.. but top side ,, instead of side.. but really any thing is better then nothing location doesn't matter..
3 leds will do.. capsLock + 2 level indicator lights really handy..
- can we get SMD per switch RGB having it on my NK65 really adds nice underglow did not realize how much i would like it..
Nothing more to want.. as i'm in The Netherlands.. shipping and VAT would not be an issue ..
only explaining to my wife i need / want another 65% board.. lost count how many i have hahahahahahahahhaha.. still love the bezels.. nice thick
Post by: soran on Mon, 09 March 2020, 16:23:14
- can we get indicator leds like on the NK65.. but top side ,, instead of side.. but really any thing is better then nothing location doesn't matter..
3 leds will do.. capsLock + 2 level indicator lights really handy..
- can we get SMD per switch RGB having it on my NK65 really adds nice underglow did not realize how much i would like it..
No.
Post by: Stormlex on Tue, 10 March 2020, 04:31:14
Post by: beekey on Tue, 10 March 2020, 15:12:11
Post by: Kinesiologist on Tue, 10 March 2020, 17:54:15
Post by: julianlamme on Tue, 10 March 2020, 18:33:00
Thiccc bezel ftw
Post by: Domantas on Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:15:45
Post by: soran on Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:51:02
Nice board from good vendors and other good guys :D Just make hotswap version (winkeyless ansi version with windows keys, because there is not a lot hotswap like that!)
Sorry, but no.
Post by: rikercd on Wed, 11 March 2020, 21:35:27
Post by: . on Thu, 12 March 2020, 02:02:46
Does the PCB have ESD protection?Yes
Post by: soran on Sat, 14 March 2020, 15:38:37
1) After some brainstorming, we have decided that the available anodisation colours are going to be:
Black
Grey
Burgundy
Dark Purple
2) Since I felt that it should be adressed - cerakoting should be around 50 on top of the GB price.
3) Saying it for the last time here - hotswap, rgb or changes to the top (winkeyless, removing blocker) - are out of question. That part of the design has be finalised.
We are yet to receive info about the groupbuy date, so stay tuned for that.
Post by: deathwalker113 on Sun, 15 March 2020, 02:52:16
Post by: Stormlex on Mon, 16 March 2020, 07:20:58
Post by: yhs on Mon, 16 March 2020, 08:56:23
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sun, 22 March 2020, 16:44:21
Post by: Stormlex on Thu, 26 March 2020, 08:22:09
The prototype was sent to soran, got lost due to corona lockdown in Poland, got found again and is now in the hands of soran.
There will hopefully be a build-stream done by him shortly.
We (or well NecromanX atleast) are currently also working on a US/NA proxy since that has been some comments on that in the IC form.
Post by: Stormlex on Fri, 03 April 2020, 14:00:19
A go-live date is being set and thats April 18:th.
Furthermore is NovelKeys onboard as a US proxy for all our friends on the other side of the pond.
And last but not least, a typing test. Check out the updated initial post.
Have a great weekend and stay safe people!
Post by: Module on Sat, 04 April 2020, 09:56:20
Post by: Kaleidoua on Sat, 04 April 2020, 10:34:45
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 07 April 2020, 19:19:48
Post by: phinix on Wed, 08 April 2020, 07:43:17
Post by: soran on Sat, 11 April 2020, 11:49:16
Gb starts 18th - what would be the production time? Like a month? :)
More than that, also depends on the numbers of units that are going to made.
4-6 months is safe to assume.
Can this be bought without the PCB / does it support other pcbs for people who like hot swap and RGB?
Hotswap is not recommended.
Post by: soran on Tue, 14 April 2020, 06:45:38
Post by: Stormlex on Fri, 17 April 2020, 14:56:56
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105811.0
Post by: toniwonkanobi on Sun, 26 April 2020, 19:13:50