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Title: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 06 August 2014, 07:30:56
Found it a few days ago from the guy I bought coloured REALFORCE keycaps from.

Here is the link;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-All-55gram-Tenkeyless-Keyboard-/271567392251?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f3aad8dfb

It's been some time since this ultra rare 55g keyboard has been sold, even Brain can't get this keyboard any more  ;D .

I couldn't let this pass without buying one, hence I am posting here showing my commitment to this seller.  When it arrives to my address you shall here about it as well as how good/bad the item might be.

The seller will have the generous 43 day time limit before I do the Paypal Call-back, which I don't think will happen (I sure hope not).
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:05:01
oof, pretty heavy markup. still, rare board, and as you may know, this model is my DD for a reason. nothing looks as good imo, even the similar ducky and imsto sets aren't quite the right colors.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:06:30
Oh, gosh I am really debating this...
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: skcheng on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:09:01
That's more than what I paid for my all 45g EK Realforce and a Digilog case LOL.   And some Topre modifiers!! 
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:09:16
ugh, so expensive yet so tempting at the same time.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:10:35
tbh, when i imported mine from korea, i think in total i only paid a little less than this after shipping

(and it was 100% worth every penny)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:10:44
That's more than what I paid for my all 45g EK Realforce and a Digilog case LOL.   And some Topre modifiers!!
While this is true, the anniversary editions are normally ₩360,000 which equates to $348.09...so the mark-up is really only about $50.

Edit: Just bought one. :]
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:31:20
That's more than what I paid for my all 45g EK Realforce and a Digilog case LOL.   And some Topre modifiers!!
While this is true, the anniversary editions are normally ₩360,000 which equates to $348.09...so the mark-up is really only about $50.

Edit: Just bought one. :]
Nice! I'm actually kind of relieved now that they're all gone, another new keyboard is the last thing I need at the moment.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: missalaire on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:33:17
Where was this 4 months ago? >.<

Also, I hate you guys lol. I was hoping to snag one of these soon as I got a new job lined up.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:37:41
Where was this 4 months ago? >.<

Also, I hate you guys lol. I was hoping to snag one of these soon as I got a new job lined up.
I'm asking the seller now if they plan to stock more, I'll let you guys know what he says.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 06 August 2014, 11:38:56
Not sure who bought the last one, I think there was 3 total.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 12:07:58
More stocked already.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-All-55gram-Tenkeyless-Keyboard-/271569403841?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f3acc3fc1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-All-55gram-Tenkeyless-Keyboard-/271569403841?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f3acc3fc1)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: oscillik on Wed, 06 August 2014, 12:13:06
I want one. bad.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: jalaj on Wed, 06 August 2014, 12:23:54
The prices of RF in Korea haven't adjusted to the Japanese Yen's drop in value. These are like 2010-2011 prices.
Really, now you're paying like $300 premium just for the anniversary keycaps.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 12:48:05
Dat markup!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:35:38
Dat markup!

Yep but can you blame him when you come across so many brand new, extra spare boxes located in South Korea?  I would do the same, because this is guaranteed profit, these keyboards will NEVER be made ever again.

I couldn't pass this up because he supplied something that literally no one else has, so leave it to this guy to hunt everywhere throughout his country to find the last stock of these.  I think he even visits here to check out what most GHers want.

I'm just glad I finally bought something of worth and I got it from someone other than Brian, in my books its always a pure win  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: SSIPAK on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:52:28
I just want the keycaps  :(
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Xowie on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:54:57
That is one sexy board  :thumb:
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:58:30
I'm curious if it's really brand new. The description sound too generic for my comfort.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 06 August 2014, 20:17:05
I'm curious if it's really brand new. The description sound too generic for my comfort.

Don't worry if anything is iffy about this seller and what he is selling, you'll hear it from me straight  8) .

I just have to wait for everything to come in which also includes his Realforce Keycaps as well.  Not too worried because it's through Ebay and I'm protected via Paypal here in every sense, never bought something falsely labelled yet  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:16:36
The boards are sold. And now the seller has just relisted five of them.

I'm skeptical.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: SSIPAK on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:20:10
The boards are sold. And now the seller has just relisted five of them.

I'm skeptical.
he has 100% feedback rating (1177 users) so I dont know what exactly you are skeptical about?
Maybe Realforce decided to pump out more of these, who knows.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:23:19
The boards are sold. And now the seller has just relisted five of them.

I'm skeptical.
he has 100% feedback rating (1177 users) so I dont know what exactly you are skeptical about?
Maybe Realforce decided to pump out more of these, who knows.
Yeah, I wouldn't be too skeptical, I bought the Leopold PBT caps from them and they got here in a pretty reasonable amount of time despite being shipped from Korea.  They were also extremely quick in answering any questions I had.  Part of me wants to jump on this so badly because this will probably the last good opportunity to aquire one of these!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:24:02
Well I'm just wondering why he listed 3 then 5, and also why they are so expensive if there are 8 of them, IDK
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:31:46
Well I'm just wondering why he listed 3 then 5, and also why they are so expensive if there are 8 of them, IDK
He did these with the Leopold caps as well. My only guess is that he lists them in smaller batches to avoid listing fees? I have seen many sellers do this, not just widebasket.

To anyone curious the last time I ordered from him it took exactly 12 days to deliver to my CONUS doorstep. They were very courteous and allowed me to combine shipping when I ordered two items from them one after the other. Packaging was very well done -actually a bit overkill-  and items were received perfectly brand new.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:32:17
why they are so expensive if there are 8 of them, IDK

Well, they're out of production and there's clearly demand for them.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: korrelate on Wed, 06 August 2014, 23:23:50
also... if you want to keep demand as high as possible it's helpful to make the buyers think that they are in short supply.

i mean even though this board is desirable consider this: how much more would you be willing to pay if you thought there was only one left?

now how mich would you be willing to pay if you knew there were still hundreds left?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Grim Fandango on Wed, 06 August 2014, 23:29:09
Looks great, and I really want to try the all 55g sometimes to compare it to 45g. But you have to draw the line somewhere.  :-X
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 07 August 2014, 02:45:08
I want the 10AE so bad but I can't afford it anymore. I already have the RF 55g (black) with pink blanks, red and orange printed caps. I have spent ENOUGH on Topre! :( :(
I could sell all of these and swap to the 10AE but all this shipping and selling inconveniences!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 07 August 2014, 07:29:04
Well I'm just wondering why he listed 3 then 5, and also why they are so expensive if there are 8 of them, IDK
He did these with the Leopold caps as well. My only guess is that he lists them in smaller batches to avoid listing fees? I have seen many sellers do this, not just widebasket.

To anyone curious the last time I ordered from him it took exactly 12 days to deliver to my CONUS doorstep. They were very courteous and allowed me to combine shipping when I ordered two items from them one after the other. Packaging was very well done -actually a bit overkill-  and items were received perfectly brand new.

Which shipping option did you choose? EMS or standard?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 07:35:14
Standard
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lurch on Thu, 07 August 2014, 07:47:34
Such a nice looking board.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Mack2450 on Tue, 12 August 2014, 21:05:23
Picked up one of these, and it arrived (expedited shipping) yesterday.  Awesome service, and speedy delivery from from KR!

Having banged on Model M boards for years, this seemed immediately congenial.  I have a KUL-87 (MX clears) and a WASD Code TKL (MX greens), and have yet to find them easy to use. They both seem "resistant" to me, not so much on the level of the individual keys, but as an experience.  The KUL will be sold, and am on the fence re the Code. But this Topre seems a keeper.

After struggling with the MXs, I was thinking about going for a Model M SSK, but seeing the prices for those suckers, I thought why not try Topre.  This combo of 55g, with gray/blue key set seemed attractive, tho expensive, but then again not so pricey in view of the Model M SSKs.  So, I took the leap and am quite happy.  For one thing the 55g does not seem heavy, indeed seems quite light in view of the greens/clears.  Quality (solidity being one proxy therefor) is Tops.  PBT is nice, especially in view of the crappy keys on the KUL and Code.  I had also tried mx blues (in a Corsair board since returned), and found them almost too light.  (sigh) A chacun . . . .

For angry emails, I may, however, have to break out my bs boards, just because the sound effects are soooo satisfying.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:41:58
This combo of 55g, with gray/blue key set seemed attractive, tho expensive, but then again not so pricey in view of the Model M SSKs.

Same here.  Mine has arrived as well and all I can say (typing on them at this very second) it's quite beautiful to say the least  :thumb: .  Definitely not as firm as MX Greens or Greys but nevertheless leaves a satisfying feel to your finger tips.

This baby is definitely NOT A MEMBRANE keyboard (even though I've been kicking Thorpie Products for years, mainly due to my own jealousy) owning them is still a privilege these days.  I try establishing a hate regime within myself as I buy more Cherry keyboards but NOW I feel more drawn towards them again.  Like an evil japanese girlfriend you want to forget but she turns up unannounced and you're hooked for her yet again  8) .

My package arrived EMS style about half an hour ago and it was easy to unpack the product.  The keyboard box is exactly like all other REALFORCE TKL keyboards, the only difference is the end box white label on the far upper-right corner, with black print "87UD55 10th, MODEL No: YF1200".

Inside the keyboard box she was sheathed into an all clear plastic type bag with a small self sealed baggy containing a single RED esc key and large single CTRL and smaller Caps Lock BLUE keys, and that's it.

When I first connected this keyboard up the first thing you'll notice is the all RED coloured Num Lock key with it's distant cousin, the Caps Lock.  The feel of the key-caps on this keyboard is superb just like what real PBT should feel like.  Of course before I typed anything upon this beauty I made sure to wash my hands with Dettol Liquid Soap for 5 mins, just to make sure all greasy nastiness is removed from my paws.

Overall pleasantly surprised how brilliant this now OLD keyboard feels to type on.  If you've got some spare moolah you can't go wrong in getting this baby because it's now officially quite rare on this planet.

The seller "Widebasket" is absolutely, without doubt a 100% reliable Ebay seller with authentic products within his store.  This guy delivers what he sells without fuss or worry even to this arse-pit known as Australia.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:19:35
Show us pix Elrick. I know you like to type but photos please!!!!


In light of Novatouch selling in US now, is this still a good choice I wonder.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:19:38
Show us pix Elrick. I know you like to type but photos please!!!!


In light of Novatouch selling in US now, is this still a good choice I wonder.

No, not a good choice at all. Leave more for me  :))
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:21:22
Hey Elrick, since you have also bought the green and orange key caps as well, I'm wondering how different is the blue grey of 10AE compares to those colored keycaps. I own a RF 55g myself and is debating whether I do need a 10AE. Grey blue is attractive yet is pretty dull compare to orange, yellow and pink set which I have and I've spent enough on Topre!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Mack2450 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:06:17
I picked this up in part because of the blue/gray.  I had thought of an EK from Elite, but felt that I'd need some easier to read keys than black on black.  The other option I thought of was EK's white-keyed 55g (recently back in stock), which would have satisfied the legibility question, but would still have left the can-I-add-some-color-to-my-life question.  Either way,  it seemed like I'd be looking at a new set of keys, which would be perhaps another $150, nearing the cost of this anniversary board.  This blue/gray seemed like it would fit the bill, especially since this is in the office, and bright orange or something might be out of place.  Looking at it in person, the colors are understated, less bright than the photo on widebasket's ebay page, but very attractive.  FWIW, the rarity factor (real or imagined) also played a role.

As for the Novatouch, it would seem to be an excellent choice (discounting of course for my noobishness with Topre switches) and the price factor is important.  Again, for me the white on black keys would need to Dolched or Granited for some color, and the cost again gets to $300 or more with no trouble.  But I'm special.   ;)

Am finding that the key action compares favorably with bs, where I am used to bottoming out, whereas the MX greens and clears seem to fight against that.  Maybe that's where the impression I get of "resistance" comes from.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:30:46
Aww man, I'm jealous mine is still going through US Customs...

Mack and Elrick...I will join you soon!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 August 2014, 19:32:25
Aww man, I'm jealous mine is still going through US Customs...

Mack and Elrick...I will join you soon!

You won't be disappointed with this keyboard, there are those that have ordinary Realforce's and HHKB's (yuck) but this one Model resides up here in the stratosphere of PERFECTION  :thumb: .

Not only is it quite lonely up here, because very few people actually own this keyboard compared to common HHKB rubbish which every tom, d!ck and harry seems to have.

Never buy common HHKB crap, always go for the ultra rare and a perfect example of the Thorpie Switch which has ever been made on this planet  8) .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 13 August 2014, 19:46:20
Such blind fanboism if I ever see one :p
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 13 August 2014, 20:04:45
I seriously need to unsubscribe from this thread.  I really don't need another board. :)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Wed, 13 August 2014, 23:44:02
do they make the AE board with variable or 45g? or is it 55g only?

seems excessive to buy a 3rd 87u but those keycaps are nice....
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: SSIPAK on Wed, 13 August 2014, 23:59:30
do they make the AE board with variable or 45g? or is it 55g only?

seems excessive to buy a 3rd 87u but those keycaps are nice....
yes they did make 45g version but I believe it's quite hard to find one.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:03:36
yes they did make 45g version but I believe it's quite hard to find one.

hmm leopold has a few different AE's listed on their site right now. i cant work out for sure but i think all of them are 55g... can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: SSIPAK on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:06:40
yes they did make 45g version but I believe it's quite hard to find one.

hmm leopold has a few different AE's listed on their site right now. i cant work out for sure but i think all of them are 55g... can anyone confirm?
all sold out :/
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:15:12
I seriously need to unsubscribe from this thread.  I really don't need another board. :)
(clearing my thread)
yes you do naasfu... 55g is just so perfect to touch.. and 10AE is just so beautiful and rare! Come on, your topre skulls need a home worthy of their stature...



no, run away.... don't come here! This is a stupid thread anyway.. grey and blue is so dull

like SPH Round 4 which is just so beautiful you know...


I need to see myself out!

Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:45:41
]all sold out :/

All sold to Mr. Widebasket...
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 14 August 2014, 06:56:41
]all sold out :/

All sold to Mr. Widebasket...

He's now selling heaps of coloured Filco's, Leopold FC750R's and some Variable 10th Anniversaries.  The guy is a true champ when it comes to supplying the REAL gear for keyboard enthusiasts worldwide  :thumb: .

Just love for once using Ebay to buy stuff NOT available from Brian (he will NEVER have these to sell), just too beautiful to experience  ;D .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:29:25
do they make the AE board with variable or 45g? or is it 55g only?

seems excessive to buy a 3rd 87u but those keycaps are nice....
yes they did make 45g version but I believe it's quite hard to find one.

They made a 30g uniform as well.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Thu, 14 August 2014, 17:05:10
]all sold out :/

All sold to Mr. Widebasket...

He's now selling heaps of coloured Filco's, Leopold FC750R's and some Variable 10th Anniversaries.  The guy is a true champ when it comes to supplying the REAL gear for keyboard enthusiasts worldwide  :thumb: .

Just love for once using Ebay to buy stuff NOT available from Brian (he will NEVER have these to sell), just too beautiful to experience  ;D .

I messaged him on eBay yesterday asking if he had any other 10 AE models.. He said he had a few low noise variables and would put them up. I really want a 45g uniform but he doesn't have any (actually I don't think they ever produced 45g AE)

I'm agonizing over which one to get now :( Is there much difference in feel between 45/55? My fingers already feel tired after coding all day on a 45..
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: cphead on Thu, 14 August 2014, 17:06:47
]all sold out :/

All sold to Mr. Widebasket...

He's now selling heaps of coloured Filco's, Leopold FC750R's and some Variable 10th Anniversaries.  The guy is a true champ when it comes to supplying the REAL gear for keyboard enthusiasts worldwide  :thumb: .

Just love for once using Ebay to buy stuff NOT available from Brian (he will NEVER have these to sell), just too beautiful to experience  ;D .

I messaged him on eBay yesterday asking if he had any other 10 AE models.. He said he had a few low noise variables and would put them up. I really want a 45g uniform but he doesn't have any (actually I don't think they ever produced 45g AE)

I'm agonizing over which one to get now :( Is there much difference in feel between 45/55? My fingers already feel tired after coding all day on a 45..
Heh don't jump on the 55g hype train if you get tired by 45g...
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Thu, 14 August 2014, 17:50:59
Heh don't jump on the 55g hype train if you get tired by 45g...

is it a lot heavier though? i think i prefer 45g to variable even though it is a bit tiring. urgh too hard to decide
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 15 August 2014, 22:29:26
too hard to decide
Ah, the Classic GH dilemma.

The solution, of course, is to get both.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 16 August 2014, 20:48:35
too hard to decide
Ah, the Classic GH dilemma.

The solution, of course, is to get both.

Listen to dorkvader, he knows the Catch-22 situation  8) .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Sat, 16 August 2014, 23:44:44
too hard to decide
Ah, the Classic GH dilemma.

The solution, of course, is to get both.

Listen to dorkvader, he knows the Catch-22 situation  8) .

i'm cool with wasting money but 2x $400 boards with slightly different key weights is pushing it ...

i think the ultimate solution is to buy the variable silenced, then swap the internals with a 45g board
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 10:18:00
too hard to decide
Ah, the Classic GH dilemma.

The solution, of course, is to get both.

Listen to dorkvader, he knows the Catch-22 situation  8) .

i'm cool with wasting money but 2x $400 boards with slightly different key weights is pushing it ...

i think the ultimate solution is to buy the variable silenced, then swap the internals with a 45g board
The real ultimate solution is what you said plus get the 10th ed, make your own 45g silenced Anniversary Edition sell the rest. 
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: digi on Sun, 17 August 2014, 10:28:59
by is definitely NOT A MEMBRANE keyboard

It actually is a membrane....over electrostatic capacitive, non-contacting switches. :D

Grats on the new board!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 17 August 2014, 15:39:34
by is definitely NOT A MEMBRANE keyboard

It actually is a membrane....over electrostatic capacitive, non-contacting switches. :D

Grats on the new board!

I don't think the sheet of rubber domes is thin enough to count as a membrane, like what the model M has.

It is certainly a rubber dome though.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Sun, 17 August 2014, 18:31:29
is there any difference on the AE model apart from keycaps / red LED?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 18:32:23
is there any difference on the AE model apart from keycaps / red LED?

Nope.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:11:14
I don't think the sheet of rubber domes is thin enough to count as a membrane, like what the model M has.

It is certainly a rubber dome though.

Just comparing it to other standard "rubber domes" which if you've used them will know, that a 55g Realforce is definitely far different in feel to a standard membrane keyboard.

Also with Realforce keyboards there is absolutely 'NO wobble' with the key actuation compared to Cherry's, Model M/F's and Alps switches.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:16:40
is there any difference on the AE model apart from keycaps / red LED?

Nope.

Trick is finding the exact same coloured key-set which was ONLY produced (many other companies have tried but failed completely in trying to copy this) for the 10th Anniversary, which happens to be the sexiest colour-way ever devised for any keyboard.

The good thing about this keyboard is that you don't need to do anything else but enjoy the typing experience because you won't ever need to change anything on this keyboard when you get it.  It's absolutely perfect beyond words  8) .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:21:39
is there any difference on the AE model apart from keycaps / red LED?

Nope.

Trick is finding the exact same coloured key-set which was ONLY produced for the 10th Anniversary, which happens to be the sexiest colour-way ever devised for any keyboard.

The good thing about this keyboard is that you don't need to do anything else but enjoy the typing experience because you won't ever need to change anything on this keyboard when you get it.  It's absolutely perfect beyond words  8) .

Definitely, I'm currently considering a Viper and I'm just realizing the hassle of sourcing all the switches & stabs, finding a keycap set that is compatible with the layout and looks good, etc etc

I love the simplicity of Topre, the whole board is ready to go right out of the box with everything I could ever want. I like variety but Topre will always be my favorite.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:13:53
Just comparing it to other standard "rubber domes" which if you've used them will know, that a 55g Realforce is definitely far different in feel to a standard membrane keyboard.
Also with Realforce keyboards there is absolutely 'NO wobble' with the key actuation compared to Cherry's, Model M/F's and Alps switches.

this is just arguing about classification. deskthority wiki covers it well: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Rubber_dome (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Rubber_dome)
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Domes with sliders
    Similar to a microswitch mechanical, each switch contains its own slider that presses on the dome, onto which the keycap is mounted; on some keyboards the slider has a standard Cherry MX mount or Alps mount interface and the board will accept keycaps from mechanical keyboards and donate keycaps for mechanical boards. Dome switches with sliders are now uncommon, but this is the form taken by Topre switches

topre switches do have rubber domes in them. if you dont believe it open it up and have a look.

doesnt change the fact they're the best switches out there though :)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:35:24
I love the simplicity of Topre, the whole board is ready to go right out of the box with everything I could ever want. I like variety but Topre will always be my favorite.

I had developed a monumental HATE towards anyone who uses 'thorpie' keyboards but I was deluding myself to the extreme.  It helped me to pour money into buying plenty of MX key-caps for lots of other keyboards.

Now I've returned home, to my most abused keyboard in which it didn't deserve my rudeness and cruel ignorance, I too am a Thorpie Lover.  YES I have to admit to falling in love with this type of keyboard yet again.  The more I use it the more it dethrone's the humble Cherry to the back bleachers.  I can't stop using this keyboard, no matter how I try to summon my old hatred towards it which now seems quite illogical and childish.

The 55g Anniversary is the one that will go to my grave with, still clutching it with my dead arms, close to my chest  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:00:26
Aw **** Elrick! And I was led into believing GMK Dolch is the ****. Should have stick to my RF and save me money, why you!! :)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:25:09
Aw **** Elrick! And I was led into believing GMK Dolch is the ****. Should have stick to my RF and save me money, why you!! :)

Hey, I still love anything to do with GMK especially the "Dolch" because it is the quintessential Cherry key-cap set.  When you buy any GMK key-set it goes directly onto your GON and Kmac keyboards.

I'm so in love with my current 10th Anni keyboard that she has really gotten her nails deeps into me.  Who knows what will be my next 'best' keyboard in the coming weeks  ::) .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Mack2450 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:55:31
We may have to get a restraining order against poor Elrick.  Or at least get him a room for an hour or so.

I'm really liking my new 10th, but I'm beginning to be a little worried for him.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: korrelate on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:01:59
Do either of you guys know if the HHKB caps fit on a standard RF switch?

And FWIW: the fiasco with the Novatouch and you two in this thread have me '' this close to picking up one of the three remaining 10th AE 55gs. My wallet thanks the two of you very much.

Cheers,

K


Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:25:02
Trick is finding the exact same coloured key-set which was ONLY produced (many other companies have tried but failed completely in trying to copy this) for the 10th Anniversary, which happens to be the sexiest colour-way ever devised for any keyboard.

The good thing about this keyboard is that you don't need to do anything else but enjoy the typing experience because you won't ever need to change anything on this keyboard when you get it.  It's absolutely perfect beyond words  8) .

They produced 10'th AVs with the blue/ grey colour combo or all grey. The all grey one looks really nice, but they made it again with the HiPRO. I think the 30-g uniform (which might have been the only ANSI 30g uniform they made) was only all grey.

Do either of you guys know if the HHKB caps fit on a standard RF switch?

And FWIW: the fiasco with the Novatouch and you two in this thread have me '' this close to picking up one of the three remaining 10th AE 55gs. My wallet thanks the two of you very much.

Cheers,

K




Of course not all the mods and there's not enough keys, but the alphas should work just fine.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: cphead on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:39:06
Oh man this colorway ... but that pricetag  :eek:
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 04:34:59
I love the simplicity of Topre, the whole board is ready to go right out of the box with everything I could ever want. I like variety but Topre will always be my favorite.

I had developed a monumental HATE towards anyone who uses 'thorpie' keyboards but I was deluding myself to the extreme.  It helped me to pour money into buying plenty of MX key-caps for lots of other keyboards.

Now I've returned home, to my most abused keyboard in which it didn't deserve my rudeness and cruel ignorance, I too am a Thorpie Lover.  YES I have to admit to falling in love with this type of keyboard yet again.  The more I use it the more it dethrone's the humble Cherry to the back bleachers.  I can't stop using this keyboard, no matter how I try to summon my old hatred towards it which now seems quite illogical and childish.

The 55g Anniversary is the one that will go to my grave with, still clutching it with my dead arms, close to my chest  :thumb: .
So Topre aficionado's another convert that finally seen the light!!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:57:59
Oh man this colorway ... but that pricetag  :o

I know the price tage isn't cheap like in the typical Logitech style of pricing.  Also consider the pricing of a Kmac TKL (Sherryton) which is around $410 for the kit only.  Add the cost of switches and stabs and it goes easily to over $500.  Then you need a set of key-caps for that Kmac so a further $100 for that desirable key-set puts that completed keyboard, ready for use at around $600USD.

An upper end Cherry Keyboard can be more expensive than a Realforce, quite easily.  Although if I was spending over $400 for a Cherry Keyboard I still prefer a GON because it's made for you from scratch with almost any type of switch preference you desire.  Plus you get that special GON guarantee of perfection because he makes sure it's done to your personnel taste  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: cphead on Mon, 18 August 2014, 22:03:32
Oh man this colorway ... but that pricetag  :o

I know the price tage isn't cheap like in the typical Logitech style of pricing.  Also consider the pricing of a Kmac TKL (Sherryton) which is around $410 for the kit only.  Add the cost of switches and stabs and it goes easily to over $500.  Then you need a set of key-caps for that Kmac so a further $100 for that desirable key-set puts that completed keyboard, ready for use at around $600USD.

An upper end Cherry Keyboard can be more expensive than a Realforce, quite easily.  Although if I was spending over $400 for a Cherry Keyboard I still prefer a GON because it's made for you from scratch with almost any type of switch preference you desire.  Plus you get that special GON guarantee of perfection because he makes sure it's done to your personnel taste  :thumb: .
Please. No more. Or I will find 400 mysteriously missing from my bank account...
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Mack2450 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 01:01:13
What price, happiness?

Elrick is right of course; boards discussed around here can go for hundreds more.  My goal was to try two things: PBT caps and Topre switches.  I knew that that would be $200.  Then for some colored caps, you're looking at another $100-150.  For a few bucks more you're holding a really nice looking, exceptionally functional, collector's item.  It was a lot, but I found something I'm pretty happy with.  It makes me smile when I switch on the PC.  Go higher in price and you're in the bespoke range, and you really should know precisely what you want before you pay those prices.  I'm nowhere near that yet.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Tue, 19 August 2014, 06:26:00
I caved today.. and there's an AE sized holed in my bank account

i think AE/silent/45g is my ultimate board, but i'd like to quiet down the stabilisers and space bar. going to have to do some research on that, but anyone know of some high viscosity grease that is safe to use? Getting from EK is literally $5 in grease and $65 in shipping!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: cphead on Tue, 19 August 2014, 06:36:15
People who already have them need to post some pics/videos ... ;)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 19 August 2014, 07:44:23
I caved today.. and there's an AE sized holed in my bank account

i think AE/silent/45g is my ultimate board, but i'd like to quiet down the stabilisers and space bar. going to have to do some research on that, but anyone know of some high viscosity grease that is safe to use? Getting from EK is literally $5 in grease and $65 in shipping!

You won't need any grease at all for your new keyboard.  I am happily typing away on my 55g and there is no extraordinary sounds or rubbing involved when the keys are pressed all the way down.  The stabilizers in the Realforce is so quiet you won't even know they're there.

I would only apply a grease like substance on Cherry or Alps keyboards ONLY  :thumb: .

PLEASE don't waste your money at EK try Ebay, they sell just about anything related to Lithium & PTFE Lube that can be safely used on all plastics.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 19 August 2014, 07:47:07
What price, happiness?

It makes me smile when I switch on the PC.

This quote above is absolutely TRUE  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Tue, 19 August 2014, 08:41:33
You won't need any grease at all for your new keyboard.  I am happily typing away on my 55g and there is no extraordinary sounds or rubbing involved when the keys are pressed all the way down.  The stabilizers in the Realforce is so quiet you won't even know they're there.
I would only apply a grease like substance on Cherry or Alps keyboards ONLY  :thumb: .
PLEASE don't waste your money at EK try Ebay, they sell just about anything related to Lithium & PTFE Lube that can be safely used on all plastics.

hmm i have 3 87u's here already and the tightness of the spacebar varies between them. hopefully the new one is like yours and not like this: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37722.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37722.0). none of my boards are that bad, the worst one just has that tapping issue on one side. it would be nice to fix it up one day

thanks for the tips re lube
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:57:53
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gQQvVgH.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: missalaire on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:58:56
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)

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I'm totally jelly and I hate you :<
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: strict on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:01:53
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/gQQvVgH.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/SjqQ1.gif)

God what I wouldnt give to have an extra $400 right now ...
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:28:14
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/gQQvVgH.jpg)

Very Nice, one that looks as good as feels. The 55g RF is one of my favorite feeling Topre TKL.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:43:58
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

That's pretty. :)

is there any difference on the AE model apart from keycaps / red LED?

Nope.

So the case is just black like the regular black RFs?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:42:14
Thanks everyone this keyboard seriously makes me so effin happy :] If you have any questions lmk!


That's pretty. :)

So the case is just black like the regular black RFs?

Here's a comparison picture courtesy of DT user 002
(http://i.imgur.com/LDIiCgG.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:54:03
Thanks everyone this keyboard seriously makes me so effin happy :] If you have any questions lmk!


That's pretty. :)

So the case is just black like the regular black RFs?

Here's a comparison picture courtesy of DT user 002
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(http://i.imgur.com/LDIiCgG.jpg)


Hmm,  so there's a very slight difference in case color. I didn't know that.

You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/gQQvVgH.jpg)


Hnnnng that's so sexy. Very jealous.

Looks like the listing for the 55g one got taken down, even though there were still 3 available?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:39:36
Yeah, not really sure what's up with that, maybe he had some local buyers?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Thu, 21 August 2014, 06:16:54
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gQQvVgH.jpg)


daaaammmn that is nice !!

i wasnt aware of the difference in case colour either.. nice surprise

btw widebasket has another 55g up on ebay. the old one probably just expired
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: strict on Thu, 21 August 2014, 07:07:45
Looks like he relisted more for sale (5)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281412482264 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281412482264)
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 07:25:49
You guys want pictures? Is that what you want?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dnJJqBP.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Bqaq7eR.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y7UhLLc.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gQQvVgH.jpg)


Looks great man, I want those caps so bad  :p Enjoy!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 21 August 2014, 12:25:05
I have the 89s in 30g, part of the 10AE as well.
Beautiful keyboard!
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Heliosphere on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:32:31
Looks like he relisted more for sale (5)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281412482264 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281412482264)

Variable weight too. What do you guys like or hate about the variable weight Realforce?
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: saturnotaku on Fri, 22 August 2014, 14:00:43
Variable weight too. What do you guys like or hate about the variable weight Realforce?

I have both a variable and uniform 87U. They're both great boards for general use. If all you're going to be doing is typing, then the variable is what you'll want. If gaming is at all a consideration, get the uniform because the lighter switches on the outer keys can lead to a greater risk of accidental key presses.

As more general observations, I wish you could get a backlit Topre board of any kind, but that's not going to happen. Also, the 87U has an issue when used on a Mac where you can use a key press to wake the computer from sleep, but then the whole keyboard goes dead, requiring you to unplug and replug it. The workaround is to use a mouse to wake up the system. It's a bit of an inconvenience that seems like it could be resolved with a firmware update, but none have been released, at least not to anyone's knowledge. There's also no way to contact Leopold (the manufacturer) unless you know Korean. I've sent a question to Elitekeyboards.com's support to see if they can offer any insight but have yet to hear back.

In the end, though, the drawbacks are pretty minor compared to the joy of typing on these outstanding keyboards.
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:13:54
Variable weight too. What do you guys like or hate about the variable weight Realforce?

I have both a variable and uniform 87U. They're both great boards for general use. If all you're going to be doing is typing, then the variable is what you'll want. If gaming is at all a consideration, get the uniform because the lighter switches on the outer keys can lead to a greater risk of accidental key presses.

For extra long typing sessions I prefer the Variable model.  The current all 55g is strictly for here on Geekhack forums only, so she takes pride of place at her own computer in another room of the house.

In all honesty no matter the key weights used in all these Realforce keyboards, it's simply a delight to type on them when you establish a rhythm when inputting reams of data with these babies  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: chiefgrillz on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:43:19
So I received my AE yesterday. Pretty fast, only put the order in on thursday.

The colourway on this board lives up to the hype :thumb: hard to capture it in photos but it's really nice. It's the first time I've tried a low noise model, and it makes it a lot quieter. Overall I like it - but the larger stabilised keys (particularly shifts) are louder than the others

For fun I made a "fake" AE with a black realforce and sky blue blue keys. You can see the colour of the blue AE keys is quite a lot different than the topre sky blue key set. The AE case is noticably different too
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 29 August 2014, 05:52:23
For fun I made a "fake" AE with a black realforce and sky blue blue keys. You can see the colour of the blue AE keys is quite a lot different than the topre sky blue key set. The AE case is noticably different too

Always go for the REAL thing when it comes to this baby  8) .  Trust me you'll know what supremacy means when you get this keyboard, which will make any current HHKB owner stream tears of defeat, when they realized how much money they wasted on their first purchase  ;D .

Better get the REAL Topre keyboard for now because everything else is a lame copy not worth considering.......
Title: Re: Topre Realforce Anniversay Edition 55g.....
Post by: Mack2450 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:57:48
Lo! Brother Elrick speaketh Truth!

Grillz, your pics are pretty accurate, conveying the subdued and warm colors of the Topre.  I'm loving mine.