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[IC]Xeno 75% & Xenopad
« on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 08:10:07 »
This board came about while I was messing around with ideas on how I could fix the 1 thing I don't like about the 75% layout, the F-row.  I've been posting this on my Instagram for the last week or 2 and people seem to like it so that's why I'm bringing it here.

Anyways, on to the important bits:

Renders:



















Layouts:



Specs:
6061 aluminum
Plate: Aluminum, Polycarb 1/2 Plate
7-degree angle
Acrylic diffuser [Optional]
Brass/ Stainless weight
~2.5kg
Colors:  TBA
PCB: TBA


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Xenopad:



Layouts:



Specs:
6061 aluminum
Plate: Aluminum
7-degree angle
Acrylic diffuser [Optional]
Brass/ Stainless weight
Colors:  TBA
PCB: TBA


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FAQ's:
GB?
I have a vendor lined up, this will happen, it's just a matter of when that I am not sure of yet.  I work a ton of RL hours, but I am working on this as fast as possible.

Matching numpad?
I would like to, I am looking at the possibility although no guarantees.


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As always, feedback greatly appreciated!  Anything is up for discussion.
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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 08:12:33 »
 
Oh. Oooh... Very interested! :eek:

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 08:19:23 »
I like it.


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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 08:46:26 »
I like it. Love the aluminum spacer idea in different colors. Definitely think you should offer two too cases with the spacer and without.
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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 09:21:37 »
Ragingbwner 75% "this isn't even my final form"
Horocrux 75% horocrux and triangles and harry pooter or something
Delta 75
Tri 75

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 09:25:25 »
Oh, as for a name: HORUS (and then slightly change the weight design to the eye of Horus hieroglyph)

Or 3rd Eye

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 09:26:34 »
i75
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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 09:33:08 »
Please add wkl blocker so I won't be a sad panda.



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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:08:26 »
Very nice.

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:51:15 »
Slow afternoon at work so:

Fun75  - because like, fun could be short for function, but also means like, fun.
Fn75
Func75

NY75 - Because you're from NY
Snap75 - Because Snapping Turtle is the official reptile of NY (everyone knows that).
Coyote - Because there's coyotes in NY(!)

Triangle - This would be weird huh, but then Duck has a board called Octagon so...
TriHard - It's part triangle, part John McClane - NYC Cop.

Conspirator - On the Illuminati tip.
President - Because all Presidents are illuminati.

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 11:35:14 »
The Seven Five.
           

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 11:59:43 »
The Seven Five.
Seven out of five, would type again.

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Re: illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:24:34 »
Trinity75


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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 08:53:05 »
Thanks for the name suggestions, some good ones so far.  I tossed EYE75 on to the plate but I'm not sure if I like that either.  I'll probably end up using someones suggestion, I hate the name game. :thumb:

Plate is about done finally:


Mount tabs still need a touch more work but I'm done for now, head is going to explode.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 09:09:39 »
Thanks for the name suggestions, some good ones so far.  I tossed EYE75 on to the plate but I'm not sure if I like that either.  I'll probably end up using someones suggestion, I hate the name game. :thumb:

Plate is about done finally:
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Mount tabs still need a touch more work but I'm done for now, head is going to explode.


can the plate be changed to support 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1 U to the right of the spacebar?
Or is this design final?

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 09:15:12 »
Thanks for the name suggestions, some good ones so far.  I tossed EYE75 on to the plate but I'm not sure if I like that either.  I'll probably end up using someones suggestion, I hate the name game. :thumb:

Plate is about done finally:
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Mount tabs still need a touch more work but I'm done for now, head is going to explode.


can the plate be changed to support 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1 U to the right of the spacebar?
Or is this design final?

If the blocker wasn't there that would be possible.  The design isn't final, but I want to keep that as a part of it.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 09:48:28 »
I'm not totally sold on fixed angle keyboards (often I prefer 0° for gaming) so although I perhaps won't join a GB for sure on this, I'd like to share my comments because it's a really strong design. Great job!
  • 75% looked uncomfortably cluttered from the first time I saw it, I immediately thought something like this to just add a little space here and there would be much better. This is better than I imagined and I would love to see some renders with keys.
  • Have you considered a winkeyless version?  To my eye, winkeyless almost always look more attractive and balanced.
  • illuminati75 may have been a name chosen for fun, but I don't see why you can't just go with it if nothing else feels right.
  • Can you adapt your plate to allow split spacebar layouts like those available on BananaSplit60?
  • would a HHKB bottom row be viable as an option? would anyone want such a thing in 75%?
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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 10:18:25 »
Thanks for the name suggestions, some good ones so far.  I tossed EYE75 on to the plate but I'm not sure if I like that either.  I'll probably end up using someones suggestion, I hate the name game. :thumb:

Plate is about done finally:
Show Image


Mount tabs still need a touch more work but I'm done for now, head is going to explode.


can the plate be changed to support 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1 U to the right of the spacebar?
Or is this design final?

If the blocker wasn't there that would be possible.  The design isn't final, but I want to keep that as a part of it.


oh damn, right, forgot about that blocker...   :))
in that case carry on :) still looking to be in on this :D

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 10:50:19 »
im def interested. I really dig the design  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 10:55:35 »
I like it. Love the aluminum spacer idea in different colors. Definitely think you should offer two too cases with the spacer and without.

I probably wouldn't do 2 cases, I'm trying to work up a nice way to integrate it for those that would want it as well as an alternative for those that don't.  It most likely won't be how it is in the renders, I'd much prefer a more cleaner, integrated look like the Duck boards.


I'm not totally sold on fixed angle keyboards (often I prefer 0° for gaming) so although I perhaps won't join a GB for sure on this, I'd like to share my comments because it's a really strong design. Great job!
  • 75% looked uncomfortably cluttered from the first time I saw it, I immediately thought something like this to just add a little space here and there would be much better. This is better than I imagined and I would love to see some renders with keys.
  • Have you considered a winkeyless version?  To my eye, winkeyless almost always look more attractive and balanced.
  • illuminati75 may have been a name chosen for fun, but I don't see why you can't just go with it if nothing else feels right.
  • Can you adapt your plate to allow split spacebar layouts like those available on BananaSplit60?
  • would a HHKB bottom row be viable as an option? would anyone want such a thing in 75%?


Winkeyless probably won't happen.  I like it myself, just not in this case.  Same with hhkb layout.

Split spacebar will most likely be added back in. 

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 07:45:13 »
Lrandomly came across this looking at Instagram, very interesting. Is the illuminati weight final?

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 07:51:50 »
That weight is awesome. Don't really like the position of the F-ROW, maybe is better to position that row exactly like other 75% keyboards (each key next to the other) 

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 08:17:21 »
75% is pretty much my ideal layout but I always wished there was one with a bottom row blocker to separate out the arrow keys. This is absolutely perfect. I never use the two keys to the right of F12 so taking them out is also appealing. Definitely interested :)
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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 15:38:36 »
This looks really really good! Nice work!!

Longshot but annnny chance at all of RGB per key as well as underglow?


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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 16:15:50 »
Lrandomly came across this looking at Instagram, very interesting. Is the illuminati weight final?

No.. I think I have a name/theme that I like figured out.  New renders later.


This looks really really good! Nice work!!

Longshot but annnny chance at all of RGB per key as well as underglow?


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I don't know about per key, but underglow will happen.


That weight is awesome. Don't really like the position of the F-ROW, maybe is better to position that row exactly like other 75% keyboards (each key next to the other) 

That was my goal, I don't really care for the f-row normally.  Each key is still next to each other, just slightly staggered.

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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 18:30:28 »
Perhaps you could consider breaking the 12-key F block into 3 blocks of 4 keys more like a traditional keyboard? There's plenty of space to do so and I think it would make the board look a bit more balanced instead of the large gap on the upper right hand side like it is at the moment
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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 20:58:10 »
You got the name right on the first try; I'd stick with illuminati75.  I love the idea of the weight being a triangle with an all seeing eye on it.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 21:03:17 »
Hmm.. this is for sure an interesting idea.

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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 21:27:59 »
Can you make a render with keycaps?
           

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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 22:12:00 »
You got the name right on the first try; I'd stick with illuminati75.  I love the idea of the weight being a triangle with an all seeing eye on it.

I don't know, I'm back and forth on it.  I've thought about just running with the design from the front and calling it the ION75.  I think it's a bit more 'sleeker' design and name.

Changing the weight up to something like this:



Can you make a render with keycaps?

I can but it is going to be a bit.  So many things I'm working on, so little time.  :(

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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 22:14:16 »
Perhaps you could consider breaking the 12-key F block into 3 blocks of 4 keys more like a traditional keyboard? There's plenty of space to do so and I think it would make the board look a bit more balanced instead of the large gap on the upper right hand side like it is at the moment

I played with that and the winkeyless idea but I just don't dig it as much as it currently is.




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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 22:23:45 »
I like the illuminati name and the weight design. That winkeyless version is pretty appealing as well.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 09:46:51 »
I much prefer the illuminati weight over the "ion" weight. Keep up the good work!

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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 11:57:49 »
Ion sounds good
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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 13:36:26 »
Diggin the ion 75 style much more.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 15:38:54 »
i also find the ion much more appealing.
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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 15:41:49 »
ILU75?

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 09:32:40 »
I played with that and the winkeyless idea but I just don't dig it as much as it currently is.

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I like this, but I imagined it having the winkeyless blockers both sides, so you'd end up with three blockers on the bottom row. For sure you have to do the version you want anyway, so if that's winkeys only without blockers then so be it. Only do a winkeyless if you can handle the extra logistics of offering multiple variations and colors.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 14:47:54 »
I played with that and the winkeyless idea but I just don't dig it as much as it currently is.

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I like this, but I imagined it having the winkeyless blockers both sides, so you'd end up with three blockers on the bottom row. For sure you have to do the version you want anyway, so if that's winkeys only without blockers then so be it. Only do a winkeyless if you can handle the extra logistics of offering multiple variations and colors.

If I put blockers on both sides, the bottom row wouldn't be possible.


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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:13:04 »
If I put blockers on both sides, the bottom row wouldn't be possible.

Fair point, well made :thumb:

I didn't really think about the overall length, I just had some vague mental image of a split spacebar type arrangement with gaps either side and to the cursor. Of course that doesn't make sense here.

So, what if the right hand side blocker is made 1u width to give visual balance against the left side? It would be unconventional, but given how appealing some of the other unconventional split spacebar keyboards it might have potential. I need to look again at BananaSplit60 and properly compare those possible options against this.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 06:15:24 »
tried to think of a WKL bottom row just to visual it. It sort of unbalances the keyboard to me though.

This is the only sort of symmetrical way I could think of. Its different.


Moving it over would mean different size keys on the sides of the space bar. Feel pretty meh about it though.



I think the original design is probably best.


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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 07:03:25 »
...I think the original design is probably best.

Which tools are you using to create these layout mockups? KLE or just an image editor? I was going to play with the layouts at some point, and also a variation with 0.5u blocker on the left side to see if it plays better with the rendered top plate in this iteration:

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I'm more interested in this idea if the variations of the split spacebar layout are supported, but as above - Pwner's original should of course be the default, any other options offered are entirely at his discretion.



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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 07:11:44 »

Which tools are you using to create these layout mockups? KLE or just an image editor? I was going to play with the layouts at some point, and also a variation with 0.5u blocker on the left side to see if it plays better with the rendered top plate in this iteration:

Just using KLE. Theres a 75% layout already under defaults (keycool 84) so it takes a few seconds to edit.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 08:03:20 »
One of the most perfect cases I've ever seen :o

The only thing missing, would be a blocker for the bottom left (like a HHKB).
Would that be possible to fix?
A 1.5 blocker over the left ctrl.

Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 06 July 2017, 10:58:53 »
I'm in for one. I love the case!

I prefer the ion design and I am not a fan of winkeyless.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 08 July 2017, 08:43:35 »
+1 for Winkeyless

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 08 July 2017, 12:23:03 »
Very interested if there's the 3 LEDs next to F12, no illuminati weight, and no (or at least the option for no) winkeyless



Also this is SO underrated. Makes it infinitely easier to pick up these heavy keyboards.

Edit: although, the other renders make it look like the back is sloping inwards, rather than the sides? Which is it? I'd love for the sides to slope inwards towards the bottom as I pick keyboards up from the sides
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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 08 July 2017, 14:52:03 »
Illuminati weight or bust.

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 08 July 2017, 15:09:45 »
Illuminati weight or bust.

Agreed  :))

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Re: [IC] illuminati75 - 75% keyboard [WTB: New name pls!]
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 09 July 2017, 03:36:50 »
My interest is checked and accounted for. Would gladly be in for Ion weight design!