Author Topic: [GB] GMK Café (Nearing Completion - Updated Thread) (Read 209169 times)

Langelandia · « **on:** Mon, 23 September 2019, 11:32:39 »

Current group buy status:

There are clearly issues with the spacebars of this set for some, if not many people. Please continue to post pictures of the issues so we can share them with GMK as we work with vendors to correct these issues. I would like to get everyone the product they expected. Please be patient with me - I'm working on it <3

Updated August 7th, 2020

As ~~coffee~~ Café gained popularity in Italy in the 16th century, clergymen pushed the church to ban this new, scary drink as "satanic." This discussion was brought all the way to the Pope himself: Clement VIII. The literal freakin' Pope took one sip and found this beverage so wonderful he remarked how they should "baptize it and keep it for themselves." Café is incredible enough to change the mind of a pope and it's darn sure wonderful enough to put on your keyboard, too.

Welcome to the Group Buy thread for GMK Café!

The set is available from these wonderful folks:

US- Cannonkeys https://cannonkeys.com/
EU - mykeyboard.eu https://mykeyboard.eu/
Asia - iLouis with iLumkb https://ilumkb.com/
Australia - DailyClack https://dailyclack.com/
Canada (I know, eh?!) - DeskHero https://www.deskhero.ca/

Sales Numbers

Colors Used

Alphas: L9
Modifiers: RAL 8019 https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-8019-grey-brown
Accents: RAL 1001 https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-1001-beige

Kits

Prices

With Cream (base kit, MOQ 250) because who doesn't like a touch of cream in their coffee? $125 MOQ MET

"Wait a second...do I see two TAB keys in that base kit?"

Why yes, you do! Since there is an option for the Black kit to be purchased in addition to the With Cream kit, you would be able to cover two full keyboards (up to TKL and 65% with different bottom rows) using the caps you would receive - with the exception that you'd be missing a second TAB key. Without adding cost, we were able to add in a second TAB key to add value to those who purchase both the With Cream and Black kits. <3

Sugar (numpad/ISO, MOQ 100) for those in the world who like a little sweet in their life. $48

Black (dark alphas, MOQ 100) for anyone who doesn't want none of that crap in their cup. $66

Extra Shots (spacebars, MOQ 100) to give it a little extra kick. $23 MOQ MET

Special Blends (40s/ortho, MOQ 100) to cover different palates. $52

Quick note: the current renders don't show the presence of scooped homing keys for both the base and dark kit. All F & J alphas will have homing - both bar and scooped will be in the kits. I am working to update the renders to show this correctly.

Renders, Lots of Renders

https://imgur.com/a/UggMOdR

RAMA Caps

Important note: the cap colors will be matched by RAMA to the GMK caps we provide once we've locked in the colors after the matching process is complete.

préparer - French for to prepare, ready, make, set, get ready, and of course...brew - ANSI R3 Enter $52 MOQ MET

Bean - Row 1 $38 MOQ MET

Deskmat

Why worry about spilling coffee on your deskmat anymore when you can already have a stained one so you don't feel bad about it?! $17

Social

I have a Discord server where we chat about a bunch of stuff, including the set of course so if you like updates and silly thing, come join. All are welcome, even if you're not buying =)
https://discord.gg/Wj9VCNK

You can find me @langelandia on Instagram if you're interested. I sometimes post pictures of things and stuff or whatever
https://www.instagram.com/langelandia/

It's not black, I promise.

More

Here's color comparison to black (CR) and white (WS1). The Café colors are on the top.

Color Matching

This is round one of our color matching process - we anticipate round two since they could be just a bit closer than they are now, but we're very happy with the first attempt and are confident that we will match the chosen RAL colors. These pictures were taking in full sunlight.

11.5.2019 - Round 2 color samples are inbound!

More

Sleeve Art

Timelines

Production time is expected to be roughly 16 weeks and we anticipate the set will ship to buyers in April.

Collaborations

-C.Y.O. Keycaps https://www.instagram.com/ttylerdurden/

-Alpha Keycaps https://www.instagram.com/alphakeycaps/

-Latrialum https://www.instagram.com/latrialum/
Pictures of test caps: https://imgur.com/a/vOvLXdD

-CruzCtrl Cables https://cruzctrl.gg/

More details to come about the collaborations Soon^TM

Special Thanks

-To my muse: ”Coffee, the bitter liquid that provides the only semblance of pleasure left in these dark times.”
-Upas for believing in the set and grabbing me day one of IC
-All the proxies - I wanted to share this set with as many people as possible and you're helping to do that.
-Onecreativemind for artwork
-Abec and Janglad for continued renders and support
-Fox for initial inspiration idea
-Voxkey, eskimojo, spade, bhk1004
-The Top Clackers, Brian and Jae, and everyone in their Discord willing to share their feedback and/or support of the set
-Oldcat and other graystudio discord users for additional input and support
-Urbantheii for hype hype hype
-Bryan for the good luck you sent to me when Dracula's date was announce =)
-And Everyone that has commented or interacted with me re:Café at all. You've helped guide this project through your questions and wonderful feedback and have made the set what it is today. I cannot thank you enough. Truly.

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Updates
9.25.19 - Added in album of test caps by Latrialum
10.1.19 - changed GB to live
10.2.19 - Added sales chart
10.3.19 - updated color comparison to correctly state cafe colors were the two top colors of the image.
10.15.19 - Updated base kit to reflect the addition of the mod colored Pipe key and the additional light "B" into base kit
11.1.19 - Closed GB
11.5.19 - Added sales numbers without extras - Round 2 color samples inbound
12.17.19 - Updated to inform all vendor orders placed and colors accepted
3.11.2020 - deskmats shipped - info from GMK tells us it is likely the delivery timeline on set will now be May (sorry =(( )
4.2.2020 - updated sleeve art due to packaging change from GMK
4.24.2020 - Added quote of shipping from GMK to vendors as May 28, 2020

Thank you all for looking <3

Signature · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 09:06:56 »

Approved

Capsy · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 09:17:37 »

Café café café

fleeceman · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 09:33:59 »

Woop woop finally

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Emir · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 10:02:47 »

Let's get it!

megaforce · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 10:46:46 »

watashi namewa espresso desu

darko · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 11:29:49 »

let me grab my purse.

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yrneh · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:43:59 »

I really can't tell, but are the colors of the letters on the alphas the same color as the modifiers?

fatboycarney · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 21:56:57 »

Really want to support this with the Canadian online option!!! Thank you! So many good sets. So hard on the wallet, gotta make it work. Is it weird I dont even have a keyboard?

Langelandia · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 21:57:14 »

Quote from: yrneh on Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:43:59

I really can't tell, but are the colors of the letters on the alphas the same color as the modifiers?

Yessir

gminso · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 22:54:18 »

oh... so 1u white beans only exists in renders?

upas · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:01:18 »

Quote from: gminso on Tue, 24 September 2019, 22:54:18

oh... so 1u white beans only exists in renders?

The base kit has 2x 1U coffee beans (R4)

IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:23:36 »

Quote from: gminso on Tue, 24 September 2019, 22:54:18

oh... so 1u white beans only exists in renders?

’

Did you mean white cap, dark brown bean (ie the inverse)?

gminso · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:28:23 »

Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:23:36

Quote from: gminso on Tue, 24 September 2019, 22:54:18
oh... so 1u white beans only exists in renders?
’

Did you mean white cap, dark brown bean (ie the inverse)?

yes.. those ones. which to me is the true representation of the beans.

PotatoTM · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 25 September 2019, 00:25:00 »

Damn I was super excited for the Canadian vendor but it seems their prices are actually worse than just buying from the US vendor and having it shipped to Canada when buying multiple kits, maybe in the future it's value will come from avoiding duty fees (and instead paying regular taxes) but for this buy it seems il be going through Canonnonkeys, looking forward to it, GLWGB!

IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 25 September 2019, 00:27:46 »

Quote from: gminso on Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:28:23

Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:23:36
Quote from: gminso on Tue, 24 September 2019, 22:54:18
oh... so 1u white beans only exists in renders?
’

Did you mean white cap, dark brown bean (ie the inverse)?

yes.. those ones. which to me is the true representation of the beans.

I was gonna put that one as the b key, also r4. I hear you.

jonowarren94 · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 25 September 2019, 09:11:40 »

Just went to the [IC] to be like 'waiting for GB' and its here!

Looking great, really hope everything hits MOQ

jerrolds · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:28:14 »

Quote from: PotatoTM on Wed, 25 September 2019, 00:25:00

Damn I was super excited for the Canadian vendor but it seems their prices are actually worse than just buying from the US vendor and having it shipped to Canada when buying multiple kits, maybe in the future it's value will come from avoiding duty fees (and instead paying regular taxes) but for this buy it seems il be going through Canonnonkeys, looking forward to it, GLWGB!

Hey Potato!

Yea pricing is a weird one, and I wanted to make sure pricing was just as good if not better than grabbing from US proxies traditionally but obviously theres currency/exchange fees thats normally hidden when purchasing in USD. Then the inherent shipping costs and duty/custom fees (UPS/Fedex + CBSA, which is usually $10) thats not really seen until after the purchase.

I tried to use standard "Canada Tax" that we're all used to paying for US goods. Which is about 5-10%, and I tried to round down when I could.

So ya, really hoping I can support the Canadian market by offering US like-prices, and add value by having quicker shipping (all within Canada and avoid 2 customs inspects from Germany -> US -> Canada) and removing any hidden fees.

I know it kinda looks like a cheap cash grab, but its tough - I'm trying guys!

Really hoping Canada has a good market for this kinda stuff as my store is a niche within a niche heh

asianfork · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:08:11 »

I'm so glad to see this being sold through a Canadian vendor. And the black looks amazing. For sure going to get it. This is like getting two kits in one kit haha.

Also lowkey looks like the nines and Olivia had a baby and made this.

Protein · « **Reply #19 on:** Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:15:56 »

One more day! ONE MORE DAY! This will be my first gmk set.

mrpetrov · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 00:01:55 »

Live! In for base, black and sugar.

SwitchKeys · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 02:51:18 »

Quote from: jerrolds on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:28:14

Quote from: PotatoTM on Wed, 25 September 2019, 00:25:00
Damn I was super excited for the Canadian vendor but it seems their prices are actually worse than just buying from the US vendor and having it shipped to Canada when buying multiple kits, maybe in the future it's value will come from avoiding duty fees (and instead paying regular taxes) but for this buy it seems il be going through Canonnonkeys, looking forward to it, GLWGB!

Hey Potato!

Yea pricing is a weird one, and I wanted to make sure pricing was just as good if not better than grabbing from US proxies traditionally but obviously theres currency/exchange fees thats normally hidden when purchasing in USD. Then the inherent shipping costs and duty/custom fees (UPS/Fedex + CBSA, which is usually $10) thats not really seen until after the purchase.

I tried to use standard "Canada Tax" that we're all used to paying for US goods. Which is about 5-10%, and I tried to round down when I could.

So ya, really hoping I can support the Canadian market by offering US like-prices, and add value by having quicker shipping (all within Canada and avoid 2 customs inspects from Germany -> US -> Canada) and removing any hidden fees.

I know it kinda looks like a cheap cash grab, but its tough - I'm trying guys!

Really hoping Canada has a good market for this kinda stuff as my store is a niche within a niche heh

Lovely to see Canadian support emerging! Like you have alluded to, for the sake of such a minor difference in costs to the end user, with the advantage of localised shipping it should be a no-brainer for people in the region.

martensson · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 03:41:10 »

Been waiting for this GB for a long while, and already bought base+rama

Solotov · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 04:00:29 »

Is there any info on when the GB ends?

jooobe · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:34:20 »

@Langelandia on cannonkeys I can't checkout the cafe deskmats with the caps have to pay separate shipping?

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eirunoopi · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:39:44 »

Maybe this was mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but is the RAMA keycap metal or plastic? I assume plastic but it also looks rather metallic in the renders, so I have no idea.

dydy124 · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:16:10 »

Does anybody have experience with Desk Hero for the canadian proxy? I normally do buisness with cannonkeys for my orders (I live in canada). I reckon everything should be fine but you know, better safe than sorry.

SUB01 · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:39:46 »

Quote from: eirunoopi on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:39:44

Maybe this was mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but is the RAMA keycap metal or plastic? I assume plastic but it also looks rather metallic in the renders, so I have no idea.

From what I remember, most RAMA caps are usually alu. Maybe I'm wrong tho

blakstealth · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 09:45:57 »

I don't think coffee too often, but this set is delicious.

nguyenhimself · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:18:46 »

Quote from: eirunoopi on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:39:44

Maybe this was mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but is the RAMA keycap metal or plastic? I assume plastic but it also looks rather metallic in the renders, so I have no idea.

Unless mentioned otherwise (like those silicone caps), you can safely assume that they are milled alu.

AidenHero · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:54:38 »

Thanks for having a Canadian vendor! It really helps and i hope more people follow (especially if this group buy does well in Canada)

Couldn't help but support something this nice, the Canadian vendor is just the cherry on the top

Langelandia · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 12:05:34 »

Quote from: nguyenhimself on Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:18:46

Quote from: eirunoopi on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:39:44
Maybe this was mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but is the RAMA keycap metal or plastic? I assume plastic but it also looks rather metallic in the renders, so I have no idea.
Unless mentioned otherwise (like those silicone caps), you can safely assume that they are milled alu.

Brass =)

nasp · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:21:48 »

Quote from: jooobe on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:34:20

@Langelandia on cannonkeys I can't checkout the cafe deskmats with the caps have to pay separate shipping?

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Yes, because the deskmats ship before the caps and they also weigh much more than the caps. It's unfortunate that they cost so much to ship, but the price before shipping is quite reasonable. The other vendors also do something similar BTW.

fleeceman · « **Reply #33 on:** Tue, 01 October 2019, 18:00:03 »

Very interested in the Cafe Keypora - what is the plan for that? Is that like a automatically entered into a raffle with every base set or something?

BrainBunker · « **Reply #34 on:** Wed, 02 October 2019, 02:25:45 »

Quote from: nasp on Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:21:48

Quote from: jooobe on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:34:20
@Langelandia on cannonkeys I can't checkout the cafe deskmats with the caps have to pay separate shipping?

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Yes, because the deskmats ship before the caps and they also weigh much more than the caps. It's unfortunate that they cost so much to ship, but the price before shipping is quite reasonable. The other vendors also do something similar BTW.

I have an order in at cannonkeys for your GMK Voyage along with the deskmat that was all one order and listed as combined shipping. Was that a mistake?

trg1234 · « **Reply #35 on:** Wed, 02 October 2019, 07:37:07 »

Quote from: BrainBunker on Wed, 02 October 2019, 02:25:45

Quote from: nasp on Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:21:48
Quote from: jooobe on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:34:20
@Langelandia on cannonkeys I can't checkout the cafe deskmats with the caps have to pay separate shipping?

Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

Yes, because the deskmats ship before the caps and they also weigh much more than the caps. It's unfortunate that they cost so much to ship, but the price before shipping is quite reasonable. The other vendors also do something similar BTW.

I have an order in at cannonkeys for your GMK Voyage along with the deskmat that was all one order and listed as combined shipping. Was that a mistake?

Cannonkeys deskmat policy changed pretty recently. I think you ordered before the policy change.

jerrolds · « **Reply #36 on:** Wed, 02 October 2019, 14:26:25 »

Quote from: dydy124 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:16:10

Does anybody have experience with Desk Hero for the canadian proxy? I normally do buisness with cannonkeys for my orders (I live in canada). I reckon everything should be fine but you know, better safe than sorry.

The shop used to be Hivemind Cables which was primarily headphone/audio focused until I decided to expand it to more desk oriented high end stuff recently. I'm on discord if you wanna chat - and i frequent the Canada Mech Keyboard discord too lately!

You can see my partnerships over at Kono.store (the Brands they love section) and heres my CanuckAudioMart profile - https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/userfeedback.php?user_id=63491

ZivZulander · « **Reply #37 on:** Wed, 02 October 2019, 15:38:25 »

Put in order for the deskmat, which would also match really well with my Coffehouse keycaps. In for the GMK Cafe keycaps as well, as soon as I have some more cash to spare soon (too many nice keycaps!).

Langelandia · « **Reply #38 on:** Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:16:32 »

Quote from: fleeceman on Tue, 01 October 2019, 18:00:03

Very interested in the Cafe Keypora - what is the plan for that? Is that like a automatically entered into a raffle with every base set or something?

This is something that will be an opt-in post group buy and will be done raffle style for those who bought base kits =)

dvorcol · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:58:36 »

Quote from: Langelandia on Mon, 23 September 2019, 11:32:39

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As ~~coffee~~ Café gained popularity in Italy in the 16th century, clergymen pushed the church to ban this new, scary drink as "satanic." This discussion was brought all the way to the Pope himself: Clement VIII. The literal freakin' Pope took one sip and found this beverage so wonderful he remarked how they should "baptize it and keep it for themselves." Café is incredible enough to change the mind of a pope and it's darn sure wonderful enough to put on your keyboard, too.

Welcome to the Group Buy thread for GMK Café!

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The set is available from these wonderful folks:

US- Cannonkeys https://cannonkeys.com/
EU - mykeyboard.eu https://mykeyboard.eu/
Asia - iLouis with iLumkb https://ilumkb.com/
Australia - DailyClack https://dailyclack.com/
Canada (I know, eh?!) - DeskHero https://www.deskhero.ca/

Sales Numbers

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Colors Used

Alphas: L9
Modifiers: RAL 8019 https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-8019-grey-brown
Accents: RAL 1001 https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-1001-beige

Kits

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With Cream (base kit, MOQ 250) because who doesn't like a touch of cream in their coffee? $125
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"Wait a second...do I see two TAB keys in that base kit?"

Why yes, you do! Since there is an option for the Black kit to be purchased in addition to the With Cream kit, you would be able to cover two full keyboards (up to TKL and 65% with different bottom rows) using the caps you would receive - with the exception that you'd be missing a second TAB key. Without adding cost, we were able to add in a second TAB key to add value to those who purchase both the With Cream and Black kits. <3

Sugar (numpad/ISO, MOQ 100) for those in the world who like a little sweet in their life. $48
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Black (dark alphas, MOQ 100) for anyone who doesn't want none of that crap in their cup. $66
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Extra Shots (spacebars, MOQ 100) to give it a little extra kick. $23
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Special Blends (40s/ortho, MOQ 100) to cover different palates. $52
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Renders, Lots of Renders

https://imgur.com/a/UggMOdR

RAMA Caps

Important note: the cap colors will be matched by RAMA to the GMK caps we provide once we've locked in the colors after the matching process is complete.

préparer - French for to prepare, ready, make, set, get ready, and of course...brew - ANSI R3 Enter $52
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Bean - Row 1 $38
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Deskmat

Why worry about spilling coffee on your deskmat anymore when you can already have a stained one so you don't feel bad about it?! $17
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Social

I have a Discord server where we chat about a bunch of stuff, including the set of course so if you like updates and silly thing, come join. All are welcome, even if you're not buying =)
https://discord.gg/Wj9VCNK

You can find me @langelandia on Instagram if you're interested. I sometimes post pictures of things and stuff or whatever
https://www.instagram.com/langelandia/

It's not black, I promise.

More

Here's color comparison to black (CR) and white (WS1). The Café colors are on the bottom.

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Color Matching

This is round one of our color matching process - we anticipate round two since they could be just a bit closer than they are now, but we're very happy with the first attempt and are confident that we will match the chosen RAL colors. These pictures were taking in full sunlight.

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Sleeve Art

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Timelines

Production time is expected to be roughly 16 weeks and we anticipate the set will ship to buyers in April.

Collaborations

-C.Y.O. Keycaps https://www.instagram.com/ttylerdurden/

-Alpha Keycaps https://www.instagram.com/alphakeycaps/

-Latrialum https://www.instagram.com/latrialum/
Pictures of test caps: https://imgur.com/a/vOvLXdD

-CruzCtrl Cables https://cruzctrl.gg/

More details to come about the collaborations Soon^TM

Special Thanks

-To my muse: ”Coffee, the bitter liquid that provides the only semblance of pleasure left in these dark times.”
-Upas for believing in the set and grabbing me day one of IC
-All the proxies - I wanted to share this set with as many people as possible and you're helping to do that.
-Onecreativemind for artwork
-Abec and Janglad for continued renders and support
-Fox for initial inspiration idea
-Voxkey, eskimojo, spade, bhk1004
-The Top Clackers, Brian and Jae, and everyone in their Discord willing to share their feedback and/or support of the set
-Oldcat and other graystudio discord users for additional input and support
-Urbantheii for hype hype hype
-Bryan for the good luck you sent to me when Dracula's date was announce =)
-And Everyone that has commented or interacted with me re:Café at all. You've helped guide this project through your questions and wonderful feedback and have made the set what it is today. I cannot thank you enough. Truly.

If you'd like to support the set, put this into your signature =):
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Updates
9.25.19 - Added in album of test caps by Latrialum
10.1.19 - changed GB to live
10.2.19 - Added sales chart

Thank you all for looking <3

Nice sales graph!

trg1234 · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 03 October 2019, 14:12:43 »

I still want dvorcol's sales graph

fleeceman · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 06:17:58 »

Is it looking like Sugar will be made even if it doesn't hit 100??

geistmate · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:57:47 »

So although it was said ' you would be able to cover two full keyboards (up to TKL and 65% with different bottom rows) using the caps you would receive ', it looks like there's only 1 regular 2u backspace.. So if we wanted to fill a TKL + 65%, most likely one of those keyboards will have to have split backspace correct? Not complaining, just making sure. Already joined for both creame + black!

Poesjuh · « **Reply #43 on:** Fri, 11 October 2019, 02:31:47 »

Quote from: geistmate on Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:57:47

So although it was said ' you would be able to cover two full keyboards (up to TKL and 65% with different bottom rows) using the caps you would receive ', it looks like there's only 1 regular 2u backspace.. So if we wanted to fill a TKL + 65%, most likely one of those keyboards will have to have split backspace correct? Not complaining, just making sure. Already joined for both creame + black!

Correct

Usually one of the main things missing for a "double build" is the TAB, including that with the dark alpha's helps a lot

You'll also be missing stuff like nav cluster etc. So in order to fill 2 boards one has to be split backspace and at the most a 65% / 1800 mini (like a Cypher/Dharma for example).

phinix · « **Reply #44 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 06:57:58 »

Just checking - who's buying Sugar kit just for numpad and won't be using ISO caps from it?

Wren · « **Reply #45 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 14:22:16 »

Do the black alphas have Deep dish homing keys for F and J?

IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES · « **Reply #46 on:** Mon, 14 October 2019, 15:45:06 »

Quote from: Wren on Mon, 14 October 2019, 14:22:16

Do the black alphas have Deep dish homing keys for F and J?

Base and dark alphas look like regular keys and bar’d (on the dark alphas, over on the right) but no deep dish for either ?

phinix · « **Reply #47 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:31:27 »

Yep, dark have bars on the caps on the right. No deep dish.

dvorcol · « **Reply #48 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 09:52:19 »

Quote from: phinix on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:31:27

Yep, dark have bars on the caps on the right. No deep dish.

Really? Then this is the first GMK set I know of that contains non-homing F & J.

phinix · « **Reply #49 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 10:58:57 »

Quote from: dvorcol on Tue, 15 October 2019, 09:52:19

Quote from: phinix on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:31:27
Yep, dark have bars on the caps on the right. No deep dish.

Really? Then this is the first GMK set I know of that contains non-homing F & J.

Homing caps with bars, not deep dish.

Nevermore012 · « **Reply #50 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 10:59:07 »

Quote from: dvorcol on Tue, 15 October 2019, 09:52:19

Quote from: phinix on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:31:27
Yep, dark have bars on the caps on the right. No deep dish.

Really? Then this is the first GMK set I know of that contains non-homing F & J.

use the white F & J alpha

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dvorcol · « **Reply #51 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 12:47:04 »

Quote from: Nevermore012 on Tue, 15 October 2019, 10:59:07

Quote from: dvorcol on Tue, 15 October 2019, 09:52:19
Quote from: phinix on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:31:27
Yep, dark have bars on the caps on the right. No deep dish.

Really? Then this is the first GMK set I know of that contains non-homing F & J.
use the white F & J alpha

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Homing key color contrast alone won't help touch-typers.

Non-barred F & J profiles in "With Cream" and "Black" kit renders appear to have identical non-dished profiles.

Langelandia, please clarify if the non-barred F & J are dished or standard profile.

Wren · « **Reply #52 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 13:02:59 »

Quote from: phinix on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:31:27

Yep, dark have bars on the caps on the right. No deep dish.

Thank you for the clarification. Perhaps R2 will have some. Cheers on a great set!

Langelandia · « **Reply #53 on:** Tue, 15 October 2019, 15:29:30 »

The renders are showing incorrectly.

The set will contain both homing bars and scoops for the light alphas and dark both. I will ask to have the renders updated to reflect this, but the order will be placed to contain both types of homing and will not contain F & J keys without homing assistance.

Thanks for asking the questions, y'all - hope that will clear it all up =)

phinix · « **Reply #54 on:** Wed, 16 October 2019, 04:22:39 »

Aaa, cool, thanks for clarifying:)

amperrsand · « **Reply #55 on:** Wed, 16 October 2019, 20:30:41 »

Just wanted to say that despite the lack of love I have for coffee, this kit is slick. If I had either more money or more love for coffee I'd buy it.

kolyz · « **Reply #56 on:** Thu, 17 October 2019, 21:01:53 »

I'm not familiar with the Canadian proxy. Are they new? I'm assuming using them over the US proxy for us Canadians is that we avoid the duties/ customs fees?

ever9415 · « **Reply #57 on:** Sun, 20 October 2019, 23:49:17 »

I participated in GB too.
What is our Order Count?

hottrout · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 21 October 2019, 05:13:17 »

Beautiful colour scheme. Just went in on Cafe, cream & Sugar. Perfect.

yoscartaco · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 28 October 2019, 21:36:15 »

In the spacebars kit, is the 1.25u space really convex? In the renders it looks non-convex (is it just the way I'm perceiving the lighting?) though it's labeled as 1.25c. In the IC thread I saw people had posted their own labeling/interpretations of various space bars/keys, but the 1.25u key wasn't specifically identified as convex.

phinix · « **Reply #60 on:** Tue, 29 October 2019, 04:55:30 »

I've ordered mine now:)

JinDevil · « **Reply #61 on:** Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:22:36 »

Is there a 7u spacebar in the base kit?

kolyz · « **Reply #62 on:** Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:38:37 »

Quote from: JinDevil on Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:22:36

Is there a 7u spacebar in the base kit?

yeah, seems like it.

JinDevil · « **Reply #63 on:** Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:53:09 »

Quote from: kolyz on Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:38:37

Quote from: JinDevil on Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:22:36
Is there a 7u spacebar in the base kit?

yeah, seems like it.

Okay, thx for the info. Just ordered mine now

nasp · « **Reply #64 on:** Thu, 31 October 2019, 01:12:22 »

Quote from: yoscartaco on Mon, 28 October 2019, 21:36:15

In the spacebars kit, is the 1.25u space really convex? In the renders it looks non-convex (is it just the way I'm perceiving the lighting?) though it's labeled as 1.25c. In the IC thread I saw people had posted their own labeling/interpretations of various space bars/keys, but the 1.25u key wasn't specifically identified as convex.

Should be convex. I think what happened is that GMK made the new convex mold after the render was made. Same thing happened to GMK Voyage. GMK just announced the new mold in late August/early June so this kit render probably just missed that date. I know Cafe's kits had been ready for a while.

Langelandia · « **Reply #65 on:** Tue, 05 November 2019, 14:24:41 »

Updated sales numbers and added note that round 2 of color matching samples are inbound

IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES · « **Reply #66 on:** Tue, 05 November 2019, 14:28:28 »

Congrats on 1k base (on a busy month too!)

phinix · « **Reply #67 on:** Tue, 05 November 2019, 14:28:43 »

1001

jooobe · « **Reply #68 on:** Tue, 05 November 2019, 16:30:12 »

Surprise not more people picked up blacks with base

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Langelandia · « **Reply #69 on:** Tue, 17 December 2019, 11:09:56 »

Added update that vendor orders placed and colors matched.

phinix · « **Reply #70 on:** Tue, 14 January 2020, 06:08:40 »

Oh man, now I found out that this deskmat would match perfectly my desk.. I wish I ordered it with the caps when it was available:(
If anyone ordered more than one or willing to sell one, please let me know.

Langelandia · « **Reply #71 on:** Wed, 11 March 2020, 18:49:51 »

Updated to reflect adjusted timeline for set delivery of May vs. April.

Sad panda =(

IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES · « **Reply #72 on:** Wed, 11 March 2020, 18:57:52 »

Least youre ahead of camping and dracula...

Langelandia · « **Reply #73 on:** Thu, 02 April 2020, 09:11:33 »

Updated sleeve art due to packaging change from GMK - thanks OCM <3

jooobe · « **Reply #74 on:** Thu, 02 April 2020, 19:48:42 »

Expected, still haven't gotten my 8008

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Langelandia · « **Reply #75 on:** Fri, 24 April 2020, 09:21:09 »

Thread bump for updated shipping date to vendors.

FaKe_VirTual · « **Reply #76 on:** Wed, 29 April 2020, 18:04:08 »

Will there be extras?
Sadly I missed this one...

jooobe · « **Reply #77 on:** Wed, 29 April 2020, 22:51:12 »

Hype!!

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abrokencondom · « **Reply #78 on:** Thu, 30 April 2020, 04:55:31 »

Quote from: Langelandia on Wed, 11 March 2020, 18:49:51

Updated to reflect adjusted timeline for set delivery of May vs. April.

Sad panda =(

Better Latte than never!

kolyz · « **Reply #79 on:** Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:51:11 »

how are we looking for shipping to vendors on May 28? Any delays that we should know about?

sirieous · « **Reply #80 on:** Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:11:29 »

Quote from: kolyz on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:51:11

how are we looking for shipping to vendors on May 28? Any delays that we should know about?

According to a post on DailyClack discord it's been pushed to June 29th but I'm not sure if that date is for when it's shipped or when it's estimated to arrive at DC.

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Chromavoid · « **Reply #81 on:** Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:50:29 »

I believe its still shipping the 28th of may but its taking up to 3 weeks to get to the US, so its likely late June before customers receive the sets. I have no idea how this affects ex-US vendors.

kolyz · « **Reply #82 on:** Wed, 20 May 2020, 19:59:43 »

Quote from: sirieous on Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:11:29

Quote from: kolyz on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:51:11
how are we looking for shipping to vendors on May 28? Any delays that we should know about?
According to a post on DailyClack discord it's been pushed to June 29th but I'm not sure if that date is for when it's shipped or when it's estimated to arrive at DC.

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Quote from: Chromavoid on Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:50:29

I believe its still shipping the 28th of may but its taking up to 3 weeks to get to the US, so its likely late June before customers receive the sets. I have no idea how this affects ex-US vendors.

Good to know, thanks a lot for the reply guys! The end of June can't come soon enough.

cnex · « **Reply #83 on:** Sun, 24 May 2020, 11:14:18 »

Just saw that these keycaps existed. Is there a chance vendors will have some extra base kits to purchase?

Puddsy · « **Reply #84 on:** Sun, 24 May 2020, 12:35:41 »

Quote from: cnex on Sun, 24 May 2020, 11:14:18

Just saw that these keycaps existed. Is there a chance vendors will have some extra base kits to purchase?

common practice says yes but i have no knowledge to officially confirm or deny

Langelandia · « **Reply #85 on:** Wed, 03 June 2020, 22:27:48 »

Updated with sad pants news =(

directheatedtriode · « **Reply #86 on:** Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:13:40 »

Yes, can't wait to get this one, after years of waffling I finally pulled the trigger on a GS3-MP, my dream machine.

solomonshv · « **Reply #87 on:** Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:24:27 »

i like this set a lot more than olivia++. i only need, will be hard to pick

dlavelle94 · « **Reply #88 on:** Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:36:22 »

Will there be extras?

Snakey · « **Reply #89 on:** Sat, 20 June 2020, 05:01:48 »

I'm very sad I missed this GB. Will there ever be a round 2? Also is there a discord I can follow? Keep up the amazing work.

Rhohamme · « **Reply #90 on:** Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:12:15 »

Any updates?

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kolyz · « **Reply #91 on:** Thu, 02 July 2020, 21:53:23 »

Quote from: Rhohamme on Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:12:15

Any updates?

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I received mine on Monday, you should be getting yours soon enough

phinix · « **Reply #92 on:** Fri, 03 July 2020, 02:34:51 »

Anyone willing to sell deskmat, please let me know. I forgot to add it when ordering caps and now I'm in tears, as this dark brown mat would match perfectly with my desk

Rhohamme · « **Reply #93 on:** Fri, 03 July 2020, 03:18:25 »

Quote from: kolyz on Thu, 02 July 2020, 21:53:23

Quote from: Rhohamme on Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:12:15
Any updates?

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I received mine on Monday, you should be getting yours soon enough

Great, can’t wait. Enjoy your café!

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amperrsand · « **Reply #94 on:** Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:21:19 »

Will there be extras?

fabijolo · « **Reply #95 on:** Sun, 05 July 2020, 00:05:34 »

Probably yes

Quote from: amperrsand on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:21:19

Will there be extras?

phinix · « **Reply #96 on:** Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:29:52 »

Anyone in Europe got theirs?
I wonder when eu vendor will start sending these...

IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES · « **Reply #97 on:** Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:20:34 »

Quote from: phinix on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:29:52

Anyone in Europe got theirs?
I wonder when eu vendor will start sending these...

Some EU folks have pics up on reddit and discord. Should be soon.

phinix · « **Reply #98 on:** Tue, 07 July 2020, 01:54:43 »

Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:20:34

Quote from: phinix on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:29:52
Anyone in Europe got theirs?
I wonder when eu vendor will start sending these...

Some EU folks have pics up on reddit and discord. Should be soon.

Oh, that's nice

MatJimbo · « **Reply #99 on:** Fri, 10 July 2020, 12:21:20 »

Will there be a 2nd batch run?

phinix · « **Reply #100 on:** Sat, 11 July 2020, 04:39:44 »

Time for a morning coffee

I'll mount them on Rama U80 next week.

//gainsborough · « **Reply #101 on:** Sat, 11 July 2020, 11:45:50 »

have you received a shipping notification from RAMA?

phinix · « **Reply #102 on:** Sat, 11 July 2020, 15:38:19 »

Quote from: //gainsborough on Sat, 11 July 2020, 11:45:50

have you received a shipping notification from RAMA?

Yes, 2 days ago. Delivery in 3 days.

//gainsborough · « **Reply #103 on:** Sun, 12 July 2020, 02:31:08 »

dang. I still haven't gotten a notification yet. Maybe mine was on the second shipment. What color did you go for? I went for milk.

phinix · « **Reply #104 on:** Sun, 12 July 2020, 06:25:39 »

Quote from: //gainsborough on Sun, 12 July 2020, 02:31:08

dang. I still haven't gotten a notification yet. Maybe mine was on the second shipment. What color did you go for? I went for milk.

Moon

//gainsborough · « **Reply #105 on:** Mon, 13 July 2020, 01:46:43 »

just got my notification

phinix · « **Reply #106 on:** Mon, 13 July 2020, 02:25:16 »

Quote from: //gainsborough on Mon, 13 July 2020, 01:46:43

just got my notification

Awesome!

002_GT · « **Reply #107 on:** Mon, 13 July 2020, 23:38:32 »

that box art looks amazing

Baionlenja · « **Reply #108 on:** Fri, 17 July 2020, 07:10:26 »

I'm not very impressed by the warped spacebars on my set + spacebar kit
Nice colours tho, definitely the best looking set I've seen

UPDATE: I asked Mykeyboard.eu about this and they asked me and others to post pictures of their warped spacebars in this thread. They will take this up with GMK.

kronograf · « **Reply #109 on:** Fri, 17 July 2020, 07:12:21 »

The Curse of New GMK strikes again. First Love, 9009, and now this...

Langelandia · « **Reply #110 on:** Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:12:11 »

bump for update

Langelandia · « **Reply #111 on:** Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:13:50 »

Quote from: Baionlenja on Fri, 17 July 2020, 07:10:26

I'm not very impressed by the warped spacebars on my set + spacebar kit
Nice colours tho, definitely the best looking set I've seen

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UPDATE: I asked Mykeyboard.eu about this and they asked me and others to post pictures of their warped spacebars in this thread. They will take this up with GMK.

Hey there! Sorry for this trouble =(

Have you gotten word back from them as of yet?

Baionlenja · « **Reply #112 on:** Fri, 17 July 2020, 15:06:48 »

I'll let you know if I hear anything!

Zilliqa · « **Reply #113 on:** Sun, 19 July 2020, 02:12:42 »

First 9009, now Café (both with space bar addition kits)

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hottrout · « **Reply #114 on:** Mon, 20 July 2020, 17:04:02 »

I got my order but they sent me the 40's kit when I ordered the ISO kit.

nappis · « **Reply #115 on:** Sat, 25 July 2020, 01:46:43 »

I don't know why GMK just don't acknowledge the ****ty spacebars. Every GB has warped keys. No need to gather more information. Just make new space bars to every participant and fix your manufacturing process.

beekey · « **Reply #116 on:** Sat, 25 July 2020, 08:51:04 »

Quote from: nappis on Sat, 25 July 2020, 01:46:43

I don't know why GMK just don't acknowledge the ****ty spacebars. Every GB has warped keys. No need to gather more information. Just make new space bars to every participant and fix your manufacturing process.

My GMK WoB from Drop had also very ****ty spacebars. The last time when they where perfect, was GMK Nautilus. They go a bit downhill.

wololo · « **Reply #117 on:** Sun, 26 July 2020, 10:32:14 »

My Spacebar is so bad, its not returning.

eriatilox · « **Reply #118 on:** Wed, 29 July 2020, 09:09:06 »

Can confirm for both the base kit's spacebars and spacebar kit.
It's so bad it's noticable even before I got it out of the tray.

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dydy124 · « **Reply #119 on:** Sun, 02 August 2020, 20:37:24 »

Bump for update.

hottrout · « **Reply #120 on:** Mon, 03 August 2020, 04:05:43 »

I have emailed mykeyboard.eu twice regarding my order being wrong and have not had a reply in two weeks. I can also confirm that my space bars are warped in the same way as well. A response is required.

Emir · « **Reply #121 on:** Mon, 03 August 2020, 04:14:44 »

Quote from: hottrout on Mon, 03 August 2020, 04:05:43

I have emailed mykeyboard.eu twice regarding my order being wrong and have not had a reply in two weeks. I can also confirm that my space bars are warped in the same way as well. A response is required.

MyKeyboard are best reached in their discord

Langelandia · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 04 August 2020, 00:00:05 »

bumpy bears

hottrout · « **Reply #123 on:** Tue, 04 August 2020, 02:59:35 »

Quote from: Emir on Mon, 03 August 2020, 04:14:44

Quote from: hottrout on Mon, 03 August 2020, 04:05:43
I have emailed mykeyboard.eu twice regarding my order being wrong and have not had a reply in two weeks. I can also confirm that my space bars are warped in the same way as well. A response is required.

MyKeyboard are best reached in their discord

Thank you, I contacted them via Discord and got a good response, they are sending me the missing set.

kege · « **Reply #124 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 05:10:12 »

I've just only stumbled upon this GB - these look beautiful! (admitted a huge coffee addict). I know it's probably way too early to ask, but any chance for a R2?

OzzyG · « **Reply #125 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:16:44 »

Quote from: kege on Thu, 06 August 2020, 05:10:12

I've just only stumbled upon this GB - these look beautiful! (admitted a huge coffee addict). I know it's probably way too early to ask, but any chance for a R2?

Pretty sure most vendors have extras, Idk how soon they'd put them for sale tho.

mta · « **Reply #126 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:43:26 »

I have the same warping issue on my spacebars as well, unfortunately:

6u center-stem white spacebar

6u off-center-stem white spacebar

6.25u white spacebar

6.25u gold spacebar

7u white spacebar

7u gold spacebar

For comparison's sake, this is an old 7u spacebar from GMK Oblivion R1:

VagueOrigin · « **Reply #127 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 15:05:40 »

Quote from: mta on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:43:26

I have the same warping issue on my spacebars as well, unfortunately:

6u center-stem white spacebar
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6u off-center-stem white spacebar
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6.25u white spacebar
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6.25u gold spacebar
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7u white spacebar
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7u gold spacebar
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For comparison's sake, this is an old 7u spacebar from GMK Oblivion R1:
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That's nuts

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DukeEsquire · « **Reply #128 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 15:45:44 »

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but when you claim to have warped spacebars, can we at least verify that it has an impact first?

I had warped 9009 spacebars if you placed on a flat surface, but there is no interference or issue when you actually used them. Also, once put on a board, you could not see any visual issues.

I presume people actually use spacebars rather than just put them on display cases to show off how flat they are.

Diggidy · « **Reply #129 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:12:50 »

I think the issue is that the price for the base kit was 124$, extra spacebars were like 25$, and most people got another kit or two. Spending 200$ on a set of keycaps for a keyboard, you kind of have an expectation for quality, and with how warped those bars are, that expectation is not being met.

If all people cared about was basic function of the key - to press down on the switch and actuate it - then people would just go get a 25$ set of cheap ABS keycaps.

bobgr8 · « **Reply #130 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:31:07 »

Quote from: mta on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:43:26

I have the same warping issue on my spacebars as well, unfortunately:

6u center-stem white spacebar
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6u off-center-stem white spacebar
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6.25u white spacebar
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6.25u gold spacebar
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7u white spacebar
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7u gold spacebar
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For comparison's sake, this is an old 7u spacebar from GMK Oblivion R1:
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I have the same issue with my 9009. But GMK fanbois would defend it.

mta · « **Reply #131 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 18:55:02 »

Quote from: DukeEsquire on Thu, 06 August 2020, 15:45:44

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but when you claim to have warped spacebars, can we at least verify that it has an impact first?

I had warped 9009 spacebars if you placed on a flat surface, but there is no interference or issue when you actually used them. Also, once put on a board, you could not see any visual issues.

I presume people actually use spacebars rather than just put them on display cases to show off how flat they are.

I suppose it may vary from person to person. Some people in this thread appear to have less warping than I do, while others seem to have more. So I can only speak for my own stuff below:

Here is GMK Classic Retro (non-warped spacebar). For reference, the bottom of the spacebar is fairly in-line with the surrounding case.

When swapping in the GMK Cafe gold spacebar, even if you press down pretty hard across the entire surface, it's never quite level. Especially after some short-term usage you can start to see it ride up a bit.

During one test when I was hitting it repeatedly, it became partially dislodged on the other side:

I tried using it normally for maybe a couple of hours, and honestly, for the most part it's fine. That said, I occasionally get strange-feeling presses when the bar shifts a little, and I have to press the whole thing down again. The most obvious thing though is the front aesthetic - that becomes uneven very quickly, though some may not care about that as much. It's sort of hard for me to ignore (personally) so I'm going to try to flatten them out. Not a huge deal -- but I do hope it's an issue GMK can fix in future sets.

DukeEsquire · « **Reply #132 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 19:44:29 »

Quote from: Diggidy on Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:12:50

I think the issue is that the price for the base kit was 124$, extra spacebars were like 25$, and most people got another kit or two. Spending 200$ on a set of keycaps for a keyboard, you kind of have an expectation for quality, and with how warped those bars are, that expectation is not being met.

If all people cared about was basic function of the key - to press down on the switch and actuate it - then people would just go get a 25$ set of cheap ABS keycaps.

What does the comment about someone buying child kits have anything to do with spacebars? Does someone who buys the novelty kit become more deserving of straight spacebars than someone who buys just the base kit?

The expectation is that they work correctly and without issue and also look straight when placed on a keyboard. If you have the expectation that they must also be perfectly straight when you display them, then you should confirm with the GB runner that they will meet that expectation before you order.

ackzot · « **Reply #133 on:** Thu, 06 August 2020, 21:57:17 »

Quote from: DukeEsquire on Thu, 06 August 2020, 19:44:29

Quote from: Diggidy on Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:12:50
I think the issue is that the price for the base kit was 124$, extra spacebars were like 25$, and most people got another kit or two. Spending 200$ on a set of keycaps for a keyboard, you kind of have an expectation for quality, and with how warped those bars are, that expectation is not being met.

If all people cared about was basic function of the key - to press down on the switch and actuate it - then people would just go get a 25$ set of cheap ABS keycaps.

What does the comment about someone buying child kits have anything to do with spacebars? Does someone who buys the novelty kit become more deserving of straight spacebars than someone who buys just the base kit?

The expectation is that they work correctly and without issue and also look straight when placed on a keyboard. If you have the expectation that they must also be perfectly straight when you display them, then you should confirm with the GB runner that they will meet that expectation before you order.

Technically there is no physical relationship between child kits and space bars. But space bars are part of the base kit and there is an assumption about the quality of the base kit that helps justify the purchases of the child kits. When something integral about the base kit falls short, it makes one a bit more upset they threw money at the child kits.

That being said, I bought Café and received it a few days ago. I have warped space bars in the base kit and the alt alphas kit. sigh.

I just wish GMK manufacturing and QA would improve.

killuchen · « **Reply #134 on:** Fri, 07 August 2020, 09:28:06 »

I hope there will be extras in the US

mrkantz · « **Reply #135 on:** Fri, 07 August 2020, 12:02:28 »

My kit has some slight warping with my space bars too, but so does the last 10 GMK sets I’ve received (not important, but it’s a expectation at this point). I put them on the board and they look straight and work exactly how I expect so I don’t mind. Not saying others should or shouldn’t care, but my expectations are met for a ~$3 piece of colored plastic.

shansoft · « **Reply #136 on:** Fri, 07 August 2020, 17:52:27 »

Just received my cafe, and all my space bar are warp as well, it makes the space key sticky or not returning...
This to me is unacceptable, especially at its price point. None of my previous sets from last year had this issue.

Langelandia · « **Reply #137 on:** Fri, 07 August 2020, 18:18:19 »

Everyone,

There are clearly issues with the spacebars of this set for some, if not many people. Please continue to post pictures of the issues so we can share them with GMK as we work with vendors to correct these issues. I would like to get everyone the product they expected. Please be patient with me - I'm working on it <3

Jeff

foundpeasantry · « **Reply #138 on:** Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:19:21 »

Finally got mine in and the spacebar is warped as well

https://imgur.com/a/fwJm64U

jimboytacos · « **Reply #139 on:** Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:41:50 »

Quote from: foundpeasantry on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:19:21

Finally got mine in and the spacebar is warped as well

https://imgur.com/a/fwJm64U

That's pretty disgusting.

Is this what we should expect from GMK now? I'm sure I'm done with them.

Emir · « **Reply #140 on:** Sat, 08 August 2020, 09:31:26 »

Quote from: Langelandia on Fri, 07 August 2020, 18:18:19

Everyone,

There are clearly issues with the spacebars of this set for some, if not many people. Please continue to post pictures of the issues so we can share them with GMK as we work with vendors to correct these issues. I would like to get everyone the product they expected. Please be patient with me - I'm working on it <3

Jeff

Good communication, thank you!

upas · « **Reply #141 on:** Sat, 08 August 2020, 12:29:54 »

Hey everyone,

It's hard for me to associate geekhack usernames with orders placed on CannonKeys.

So, with that in mind, if you ordered from CannonKeys and have any issues with your GMK Cafe set, PLEASE send in a support ticket containing:
1. images of the warped spacebars on a flat surface / images of the issue you are seeing
2. your order number.

Without this information, I can't easily track this issue. I'll gather information for a couple weeks then send it along to GMK.

Once that's done, we'll see what GMK has to say.

Thanks,
Upas

Senbeii · « **Reply #142 on:** Sat, 08 August 2020, 13:47:24 »

Not only is my spacebar pretty warped, I have a scuffed right shift due to an error in the injection mold that cant be rubbed off.... for a GMK set that I paid $400CAD for im def not impressed and hopefully replacements can be made

GMK Bento 6.25U Spacebar
https://imgur.com/XvRrZC6

GMK Cafe 6.25U Spacebar
https://imgur.com/PD8LPaN

Scuffed 1.75U rShift
https://imgur.com/beKfqOC

ackzot · « **Reply #143 on:** Sat, 08 August 2020, 18:37:38 »

Quote from: upas on Sat, 08 August 2020, 12:29:54

Hey everyone,

It's hard for me to associate geekhack usernames with orders placed on CannonKeys.

So, with that in mind, if you ordered from CannonKeys and have any issues with your GMK Cafe set, PLEASE send in a support ticket containing:
1. images of the warped spacebars on a flat surface / images of the issue you are seeing
2. your order number.

Without this information, I can't easily track this issue. I'll gather information for a couple weeks then send it along to GMK.

Once that's done, we'll see what GMK has to say.

Thanks,
Upas

I couldn't find a link on the cannonkeys website. So I emailed support. Hopefully that will be ok.

PotatoTM · « **Reply #144 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 00:06:28 »

I won't be able to check out my set until ~mid-december... I hope the spacebars will be alright

nappis · « **Reply #145 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 01:48:40 »

Quote from: DukeEsquire on Thu, 06 August 2020, 19:44:29

Quote from: Diggidy on Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:12:50
I think the issue is that the price for the base kit was 124$, extra spacebars were like 25$, and most people got another kit or two. Spending 200$ on a set of keycaps for a keyboard, you kind of have an expectation for quality, and with how warped those bars are, that expectation is not being met.

If all people cared about was basic function of the key - to press down on the switch and actuate it - then people would just go get a 25$ set of cheap ABS keycaps.

What does the comment about someone buying child kits have anything to do with spacebars? Does someone who buys the novelty kit become more deserving of straight spacebars than someone who buys just the base kit?

The expectation is that they work correctly and without issue and also look straight when placed on a keyboard. If you have the expectation that they must also be perfectly straight when you display them, then you should confirm with the GB runner that they will meet that expectation before you order.

LOL. It's straight when it is sitting flat against flat surface. Anything else = warped.

Imagine buying a new car with dents on it and the seller is like:
"CaN WE aT LeasT vERIFY THAt IT has AN IMPacT fIRsT?
If YoU HaVe THE expECTAtioN ThAT theY MUST AlSo be peRFECTLy StRAIGHt When yOu DIsPlAY theM, thEn yoU sHOuLd conFiRm wITH the gb rUNNER thAt they WILL meEt thAT ExPEctatIOn bEFore you ORDeR."

I have bought a ton of Lego for my kids and every single piece has been straight. And I expect every single piece to be flat and fit to other pieces nicely. How can kids toys have better quality than small production run of caps that some people use to do work.

If it is so focking hard to do straight caps then adjust the price accordingly. Now it's clearly a gamble but GMK, designers and vendors will never say this. So it's impossible for buyers to adjust theirs expectations.

Tyson · « **Reply #146 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 02:37:51 »

Quote from: bobgr8 on Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:31:07

Quote from: mta on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:43:26
I have the same warping issue on my spacebars as well, unfortunately:

6u center-stem white spacebar
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6u off-center-stem white spacebar
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6.25u white spacebar
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6.25u gold spacebar
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7u white spacebar
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7u gold spacebar
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For comparison's sake, this is an old 7u spacebar from GMK Oblivion R1:
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I have the same issue with my 9009. But GMK fanbois would defend it.

Nobody is defending that the bars aren't crooked.

gordonderp · « **Reply #147 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 02:49:27 »

Quote from: Tyson on Sun, 09 August 2020, 02:37:51

Quote from: bobgr8 on Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:31:07
Quote from: mta on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:43:26
I have the same warping issue on my spacebars as well, unfortunately:

6u center-stem white spacebar
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6u off-center-stem white spacebar
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6.25u white spacebar
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6.25u gold spacebar
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7u white spacebar
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7u gold spacebar
Show Image

For comparison's sake, this is an old 7u spacebar from GMK Oblivion R1:
Show Image

I have the same issue with my 9009. But GMK fanbois would defend it.

Nobody is defending that the bars aren't crooked.

I think he's talking about how people are saying it doesn't matter and very dismissive of the spacebar issue while also criticising the spacebars of PBT sets.

brandonmurgic · « **Reply #148 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 03:29:25 »

I am not a long time in this hobby, but an easy fix I have seen is to just use boiling water. Why is there so much backlash if that is an easy fix? Mind you my spacebars are warped too, I am just genuinely curious.

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sagarsiddhpura · « **Reply #149 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 05:36:02 »

Quote from: brandonmurgic on Sun, 09 August 2020, 03:29:25

I am not a long time in this hobby, but an easy fix I have seen is to just use boiling water. Why is there so much backlash if that is an easy fix? Mind you my spacebars are warped too, I am just genuinely curious.

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Because you should not get scuffed product when paying such a high price. You dont buy a car and accept faulty things do you? It does not matter if fix is easy or hard, but mentality to accept such things will only make this issues continue and increase on every set. GMK needs to accept and fix this.

phinix · « **Reply #150 on:** Sun, 09 August 2020, 06:48:00 »

Are we who bought it from mykeyboard.eu contacting the shop for some solution or something like that?

upas · « **Reply #151 on:** Mon, 10 August 2020, 14:54:03 »

Hey guys,

Thanks to everyone who submitted photos! Please keep them coming if you have issues.
We can be reached at support@cannonkeys.com

I have some followup guidelines for photos that I'd like to be followed for consistency:

Please take photos on a flat surface and don't press on one side, let it lie flat, free standing on a flat surface.

This will help us submit consistent photos to GMK and help them evaluate next steps.

Any photos we receive that don't meet these requirements will get sent these standards. Please help us communicate effectively with GMK!

Thanks!
Upas

mta · « **Reply #152 on:** Mon, 10 August 2020, 15:30:21 »

I think that letting the bar sit flat makes it harder to see the warp and doesn't necessarily indicate how the bar will sit after extended use. Different people may strike the spacebar in different spots, and at least in my case, after some usage it eventually does shift between the stems in an uneven fashion that is more consistent with holding down one end than letting it sit flat on a table.

For example these are my same bars if you leave them flat - the same bars from here (holding them down on one end) and here (what happens after some use, at least in my case - I can't speak for others).

heyimpanda · « **Reply #153 on:** Mon, 10 August 2020, 16:52:05 »

So I have no knowledge of what the tolerance is for warpage, but mine looked pretty bad when i pressed down on one of the sides, especially for my 7u one, but here's when I lay it flat:

Is this cause for concern? 7u still looks wonky for sure

EDIT: well after a couple presses on the 6.25u spacebar the stab wire popped so im assuming that it is indeed a problem

Virtualhawk · « **Reply #154 on:** Tue, 11 August 2020, 23:25:38 »

Subbed

Interested if there’s a round 2!

Hope the space bar issue gets resolved soon

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Lastpadawan · « **Reply #155 on:** Wed, 02 September 2020, 23:21:36 »

Definitely a set I'm hoping to get more of, managed to grab the Cafe base but would like to grab the novelties and such. Keeping an eye peeled for extras to pop up

victorpre · « **Reply #156 on:** Wed, 23 September 2020, 08:43:13 »

Hey, here is my contribution to the warped spacebar pictures. My vendor was Mykeyboard.EU

Domantas · « **Reply #157 on:** Wed, 17 February 2021, 11:15:42 »

Hey, Langelandia, I am a coffee fan and I heard that rama won't let make same rama artisans as in r1 but i really want that coffee bean because I couldn't get it anywhere, there were even no extras on my proxies (asked last year many times). How are you planning to change it maybe inverse colors or make one bean (this would work probably) haha? Or object decision? I just want my bean artisan haha XD

victorpre · « **Reply #158 on:** Wed, 26 May 2021, 10:39:54 »

has anyone got any response from GMK/vendors about the spacebar issues?

Domantas · « **Reply #159 on:** Sat, 04 September 2021, 15:49:40 »

Quote from: victorpre on Wed, 26 May 2021, 10:39:54

has anyone got any response from GMK/vendors about the spacebar issues?

GMK won't do anything about any spacebars as I understood. Only ones they cared for was 9009

lys.nordique · « **Reply #160 on:** Sat, 04 September 2021, 19:19:48 »

Your spacebars are fine.

phinix · « **Reply #161 on:** Fri, 09 September 2022, 03:22:08 »

OK, so when we gonna have round 2?

johntron25 · « **Reply #162 on:** Sat, 10 September 2022, 02:50:00 »

I think R2 was IFK Cafe

phinix · « **Reply #163 on:** Sat, 10 September 2022, 11:23:38 »

Quote from: johntron25 on Sat, 10 September 2022, 02:50:00

I think R2 was IFK Cafe

That one was crap.

conternecticus · « **Reply #164 on:** Sun, 25 June 2023, 01:29:31 »

Hoping a another round will happen

The hobby has grown a lot now, lots of newcomer (me included) that makes this set worth running again

NightFox99 · « **Reply #165 on:** Tue, 28 November 2023, 13:45:16 »

GMK Café R2 ?

DeMechanica · « **Reply #166 on:** Mon, 04 December 2023, 22:06:51 »

R2? Yes please, I had to buy the IFK version and suffer the consequences.

shansoft · « **Reply #167 on:** Tue, 05 December 2023, 16:38:50 »

Quote from: DeMechanica on Mon, 04 December 2023, 22:06:51

R2? Yes please, I had to buy the IFK version and suffer the consequences.

The only problem I have is IFK version is a bit too light in color compare to GMK version where it looks a lot more creamy.

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