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Offline zacbir

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Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« on: Thu, 20 November 2014, 13:33:58 »
Howdy.

Just picked up a lot of 4 Apple Extended Keyboard IIs. I plan on USBifying at least one of them via Teensy 2.0 and tmx code. Today I stumbled upon this entry from adafruit: https://learn.adafruit.com/convert-your-model-m-keyboard-to-bluetooth-with-bluefruit-ez-key-hid/overview and became more than a bit interested in modding one of the remaining as a Bluetooth keyboard. There doesn't seem to be as much room inside the AEKII as in the Model M, but I'll keep looking and noodling.
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 20 November 2014, 16:22:43 »
Hi, welcome to geekhack!

You might want to post in the “making stuff together” subforum, as it gets a bit more traffic than the new members section.

AEK IIs are great keyboards, especially the ones from before 1994. I really like the keycaps.

I’ve had great success installing a Teensy in a couple of other ADB keyboards and using hasu’s tmk_keyboard firmware. Don’t hesitate to ask questions in the dedicated thread about ADB conversion (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290), and hasu and other folks will stop by to answer.
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 21 November 2014, 05:45:41 »
WELCOME TO GH
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 04:39:03 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

If your project does get off the ground, please post pictures and a build log if possible.  Every now and again someone does ask about a bluetooth keyboard, so there definitely seems to be some demand for them.
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Offline zacbir

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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:38:55 »
Funny you should mention that. Here's my post to the "ADB to USB keyboard converter thread": https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290.msg1563262#msg1563262

Seems to be a 100% success. I'm typing on it now.
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 20 December 2014, 21:25:33 »
Quote from: zacbir on Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:38:55
Funny you should mention that. Here's my post to the "ADB to USB keyboard converter thread": https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290.msg1563262#msg1563262

Seems to be a 100% success. I'm typing on it now.

Nicely done :)

Any plans to wrap the Teensy in something to protect it?
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 20 December 2014, 21:35:51 »
I have done several ADB to USB conversions using HASUs code. I also have several AEKIIs that I will be converting (3 of them) so if you are interested, I can take pictures of the conversion process for you.

(I probably won't get to them for about 2 weeks though)

-Ezra
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 22 December 2014, 19:11:20 »
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 20 December 2014, 21:25:33
Quote from: zacbir on Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:38:55
Funny you should mention that. Here's my post to the "ADB to USB keyboard converter thread": https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290.msg1563262#msg1563262

Seems to be a 100% success. I'm typing on it now.

Nicely done :)

Any plans to wrap the Teensy in something to protect it?

Yeah, I'm going to try and model something in SketchUp Make and have friends print it. We'll see. I don't get my own 3D printer until Father's Day 2015.

I also wrote up the process and a subsequent project (Caps Lock -> Control) on my blog: http://zacbir.net/blog/2014/12/16/nimitz-alive/ and http://zacbir.net/blog/2014/12/19/getting-control-over-caps-lock/.
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Re: Apple Extended Keyboard IIs to tweak
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 29 December 2014, 03:43:44 »
Quote from: zacbir on Mon, 22 December 2014, 19:11:20
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 20 December 2014, 21:25:33
Quote from: zacbir on Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:38:55
Funny you should mention that. Here's my post to the "ADB to USB keyboard converter thread": https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290.msg1563262#msg1563262

Seems to be a 100% success. I'm typing on it now.

Nicely done :)

Any plans to wrap the Teensy in something to protect it?

Yeah, I'm going to try and model something in SketchUp Make and have friends print it. We'll see. I don't get my own 3D printer until Father's Day 2015.

I also wrote up the process and a subsequent project (Caps Lock -> Control) on my blog: http://zacbir.net/blog/2014/12/16/nimitz-alive/ and http://zacbir.net/blog/2014/12/19/getting-control-over-caps-lock/.

With a 3D printer you could print your own keycaps ;)
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