[IC] The Banana Split 60 - Group Buy Launching June 1st!

[megaforce]

Thanks for the support guys, didn't expect a pcb color to be so controversial. I'm sticking with yellow, fits the theme and it's unique. It'll stand out with all the white pcb's currently out.

yeah but sonic vouchers.

I'll try and strike up a deal with them, free banana splits for everyone who purchases a board. xD

Papa bless

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[Vadurr]

Will the PCB be pre-programmed to having a single tap on the right "shift" to act as "?" for us?

[Arhipio]

Will the PCB be pre-programmed to having a single tap on the right "shift" to act as "?" for us?

Yup and it will use evan's keyboard configurator so if you want to remap it you wont have to dabble with code.

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[Giorgio]

Will the pcb be black with yellow traces or the other way around?

[Arhipio]

Just received my invoice for the plate prototype, I will stop by Tuesday to pick it up. Expect pictures then

[Arhipio]

Will the pcb be black with yellow traces or the other way around?

Not sure yet on the traces, but the soldermask will be yellow.

[Giorgio]

Will the pcb be black with yellow traces or the other way around?

Not sure yet on the traces, but the soldermask will be yellow.

[kmba]

Oh that's bleeping nice

[ehmlis]

I love the yellow and white, but yellow and black would work great too.

[Arhipio]

Just got the prototype for the plate, couldn't be happier. The finish looks great and the tolerance on the switches is perfect. Can't wait to get them to you guys. I'm at work currently but I should be able to answer any questions about it .

[ChitownM2]

Looks good!

Any estimates on how long to finish the pcb and get this GB rolling?

[Arhipio]

Looks good!

Any estimates on how long to finish the pcb and get this GB rolling?

Not yet, but soon my friend.

[NotTheVacuum]

Is it a problem that the mounting holes cause separations in the left and right side? I just noticed the original design calls for there to be super thin material around those screw holes.

[Arhipio]

Is it a problem that the mounting holes cause separations in the left and right side? I just noticed the original design calls for there to be super thin material around those screw holes.

Not at all, the separation was intentionally done to make the laser cut route easier and because it was too thin in those areas. I actually forgot to post the updated file but I took that into account and fixed those holes. There is 0 flex in the plate and it is really sturdy. If you look at other 60 plates they do the same thing .

[NotTheVacuum]

Thanks, pardon the boob question. This is going to be my first build in all likelihood.

[Arhipio]

Thanks, pardon the boob question. This is going to be my first build in all likelihood.

No worries glad you asked, I'm someone else had a similar concern .

[Arhipio]

Decided to put together a mockup. Put in a variety of random switches I had, which all clicked into the plate perfectly, and put on the caps I was going to use for my board. Hope you guys enjoy.


All the mounting holes line up for poker style cases.



Top view.



Artsy angled view.



As a closing remark the plate feels phenomenal to type on, can't wait to hear what you guys think of it .

[ChitownM2]

Looks very good. Can't wait to get one in my hands

[KINGPIN]

Per-key RGB and RGB under glow, Hi polish brass plate with coating will be my dream.

[Vadurr]

Will the PCB be pre-programmed to having a single tap on the right "shift" to act as "?" for us?

Yup and it will use evan's keyboard configurator so if you want to remap it you wont have to dabble with code.

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[Krakob]

The more I think about it, the more this layout makes sense. Pretty much what I envisioned for my end game, but with perfect keycap compatibility for me as an ISO user. Ravioli ravioli give me the keebioli!!

Personally want Zeal stabs, a custom brass plate and a Goose case, so I would only be in for the PCB itself, but you have my full support there

[Ghen90]

I am completely behind this. I made an account just to tell you that I thank you for working on this. Cannot wait to see the end result. I am ready to buy it day one. Keep up the great work.

[Arhipio]

I am completely behind this. I made an account just to tell you that I thank you for working on this. Cannot wait to see the end result. I am ready to buy it day one. Keep up the great work.

Awesome, thank you for the support. I'm glad everyone is enjoying the mockup, can't wait to get a functioning prototype made.

[Krakob]

Something that confuses me a bit: you claim that you won't have holtite support, no alps support, yet you're using hybrid holes which support alps. What's the thought process here? If you're just rolling MX the MX holes should be better, and holtite support is easy since you just need single pin holes for the MX switches.

Another thing I was wondering about is whether you'll make it open source or not.

[Arhipio]

Something that confuses me a bit: you claim that you won't have holtite support, no alps support, yet you're using hybrid holes which support alps. What's the thought process here? If you're just rolling MX the MX holes should be better, and holtite support is easy since you just need single pin holes for the MX switches.

Another thing I was wondering about is whether you'll make it open source or not.

Mx/alps holes vs regular cherry holes are better because they offer the same functionality but are cheaper to cut. The name doesn't make too much sense because once you make a plate universal you lose the alps functionality. Holtite support is something we just didn't consider and we will hold off on that for this gb. I have no problem making the plate open source, as for the pcb that's evan's decision.

[Krakob]

Something that confuses me a bit: you claim that you won't have holtite support, no alps support, yet you're using hybrid holes which support alps. What's the thought process here? If you're just rolling MX the MX holes should be better, and holtite support is easy since you just need single pin holes for the MX switches.

Another thing I was wondering about is whether you'll make it open source or not.

Mx/alps holes vs regular cherry holes are better because they offer the same functionality but are cheaper to cut. The name doesn't make too much sense because once you make a plate universal you lose the alps functionality. Holtite support is something we just didn't consider and we will hold off on that for this gb. I have no problem making the plate open source, as for the pcb that's evan's decision.

Ah, that is sensible enough. There are a few threads about holtites here and on Reddit. Just need the right diameter, which I think is worth pursuing as it's a small change for a big benefit.

[Arhipio]

Something that confuses me a bit: you claim that you won't have holtite support, no alps support, yet you're using hybrid holes which support alps. What's the thought process here? If you're just rolling MX the MX holes should be better, and holtite support is easy since you just need single pin holes for the MX switches.

Another thing I was wondering about is whether you'll make it open source or not.

Mx/alps holes vs regular cherry holes are better because they offer the same functionality but are cheaper to cut. The name doesn't make too much sense because once you make a plate universal you lose the alps functionality. Holtite support is something we just didn't consider and we will hold off on that for this gb. I have no problem making the plate open source, as for the pcb that's evan's decision.

Ah, that is sensible enough. There are a few threads about holtites here and on Reddit. Just need the right diameter, which I think is worth pursuing as it's a small change for a big benefit.

If I'm not mistake, I'm pretty sure you don't need a special hole diameter for them. They should work with any pcb? I know you can put them on the planck but the planck doessn't have direct support.

[ChitownM2]

If I'm not mistake, I'm pretty sure you don't need a special hole diameter for them. They should work with any pcb? I know you can put them on the planck but the planck doessn't have direct support.

I'm not exactly certain why, but they don't work on every pcb. Sometimes the holes are too big to hold the holtite in place or it could be too small and you can't get it to seat. Other times certain keys on universal layout pcb the switch holes overlap slightly or are oddly shaped and that makes them not fit.

As far as hole diameter, I believe that is what he is referring to being able to change easily to make the pcb compatible. I would agree that it is worth contacting someone like olkb who has a pcb that is confirmed to work and verify what hole diameter is ideal.

[Arhipio]

If I'm not mistake, I'm pretty sure you don't need a special hole diameter for them. They should work with any pcb? I know you can put them on the planck but the planck doessn't have direct support.

I'm not exactly certain why, but they don't work on every pcb. Sometimes the holes are too big to hold the holtite in place or it could be too small and you can't get it to seat. Other times certain keys on universal layout pcb the switch holes overlap slightly or are oddly shaped and that makes them not fit.

As far as hole diameter, I believe that is what he is referring to being able to change easily to make the pcb compatible. I would agree that it is worth contacting someone like olkb who has a pcb that is confirmed to work and verify what hole diameter is ideal.

Ah that makes sense.

[Krakob]

If I'm not mistake, I'm pretty sure you don't need a special hole diameter for them. They should work with any pcb? I know you can put them on the planck but the planck doessn't have direct support.

I'm not exactly certain why, but they don't work on every pcb. Sometimes the holes are too big to hold the holtite in place or it could be too small and you can't get it to seat. Other times certain keys on universal layout pcb the switch holes overlap slightly or are oddly shaped and that makes them not fit.

As far as hole diameter, I believe that is what he is referring to being able to change easily to make the pcb compatible. I would agree that it is worth contacting someone like olkb who has a pcb that is confirmed to work and verify what hole diameter is ideal.

Ah that makes sense.

Nailed it! Holtites have been known to fall through some PCBs, I believe cheap Chinese ones in particular. Most Korean boards are made to hold the pins quite tight and have trouble fitting them, on the other hand.

[Arhipio]

Hoping to communicate with you guys through multiple forms of media. Someone messaged me asking if I could "ping" them when the gb launches. I thought it would be a great idea to create a newsletter. I'll use to communicate when the group buy launches, and future updates for the group buy.

https://goo.gl/forms/FB0i4kv0nxmR8XSH3

 

[Str1pez]

Hoping to communicate with you guys through multiple forms of media. Someone messaged me asking if I could "ping" them when the gb launches. I thought it would be a great idea to create a newsletter. I'll use to communicate when the group buy launches, and future updates for the group buy.

https://goo.gl/forms/FB0i4kv0nxmR8XSH3

 

Good ass call.  Signed my ass up!  All I need is a case for this now.  Debating wood or an aluminum Tex case....  Just gotta figure out what I think will look best with GMK Plum.

[kmba]

I'm hoping to pair this with the sentraq 60% hi pro case that's been teased several times now.

[Nuum]

Decided to put together a mockup. Put in a variety of random switches I had, which all clicked into the plate perfectly, and put on the caps I was going to use for my board. Hope you guys enjoy.


All the mounting holes line up for poker style cases.

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Top view.

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Artsy angled view.

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As a closing remark the plate feels phenomenal to type on, can't wait to hear what you guys think of it :D.

Hmm the left spacebar and the middle Alt key seem to be a little bit off. The gap between left Space and left Alt seems to be too big. Also the right side of the middle Alt should line up with the right side of the B key, right? Or is it just not seated correctly?

As for PCB colour: I'm really glad that you are willing to go with yellow, it will definitely be unique!

[Arhipio]

Decided to put together a mockup. Put in a variety of random switches I had, which all clicked into the plate perfectly, and put on the caps I was going to use for my board. Hope you guys enjoy.


All the mounting holes line up for poker style cases.

Show Image

Top view.

Show Image

Artsy angled view.

Show Image

As a closing remark the plate feels phenomenal to type on, can't wait to hear what you guys think of it :D.

Hmm the left spacebar and the middle Alt key seem to be a little bit off. The gap between left Space and left Alt seems to be too big. Also the right side of the middle Alt should line up with the right side of the B key, right? Or is it just not seated correctly?

As for PCB colour: I'm really glad that you are willing to go with yellow, it will definitely be unique!

It's just not lined up properly, hard to line everything up without a pcb.

Edit: The alt key is r1 instead of r2, also why it might not look properly seated.

[kmba]

It's because every switch from the left space all the way to the right of the plate can just slip and slide around without a PCB.

[Arhipio]

It's because every switch from the left space all the way to the right of the plate can just slip and slide around without a PCB.

Exactly, but with pcb it'll be secure. Thanks for clarifying.

[Arhipio]

For anyone asking questions in the google form, go ahead and pm me on Reddit/Geekhack, or post them directly in the IC.  Thanks again for all the feedback and support .

[Arhipio]

Just sent out emails to everyone who asked a question on the newsletter. 

[kmba]

Happy with the plate and PCB? So we're getting close? any rough estimate when the GB action for us plebeians might begin?

[Arhipio]

Happy with the plate and PCB? So we're getting close? any rough estimate when the GB action for us plebeians might begin?

Evan has the design mostly finished up, he's just checking his work. He'll work on getting a prototype in the coming weeks. As for the group buy, patience . We'll get there soon.

[kmba]

Happy with the plate and PCB? So we're getting close? any rough estimate when the GB action for us plebeians might begin?

Evan has the design mostly finished up, he's just checking his work. He'll work on getting a prototype in the coming weeks. As for the group buy, patience . We'll get there soon.

oh right.. brain fart.  forgot the mock up was plate only.

[Giorgio]

Please make the PCB sturdy and thick: I'll use it without a plate.

[ChitownM2]

Sounds like good news to me. Although it's looking like this GB might hit at the same time as a bunch of other keycaps I'm looking at. I could have to cut back on food to pay for all of this good stuff.

[Arhipio]

Sounds like good news to me. Although it's looking like this GB might hit at the same time as a bunch of other keycaps I'm looking at. I could have to cut back on food to pay for all of this good stuff.

Yeah I get that, if the groupbuy doesn't line up well with other gb's we can always extend the time.

[ideus]

Please make the PCB sturdy and thick: I'll use it without a plate.

+1.


Has the PCB's price been set, yet?

[Arhipio]

Please make the PCB sturdy and thick: I'll use it without a plate.

+1.


Has the PCB's price been set, yet?

Not yet, I'll let you know as soon as I know.

[ideus]

I would like to make something like this. I should build my own case to close those gaps at the bottom corners.

[Arhipio]

I would like to make something like this. I should build my own case to close those gaps at the bottom corners.

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Looks sweet, can't wait to see a pic of it once it's made :D.

[NotTheVacuum]

I would like to make something like this. I should build my own case to close those gaps at the bottom corners.

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