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KeyCon 2025 / Re: Keycon 2025
« Last post by Rob27shred on Sun, 02 June 2024, 14:17:26 »
Honestly I get where you guys that have been around even longer than I have are coming from, but personally I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Keycon has been US exclusive since it began AFAIK (I got into the hobby late 2015) so I feel it's just fine to let the EU have one. I mean everything us US based people are worried about with it being in Germany is what EU based people have had to contend with if they wanted attend in all the previous years.

I might have agreed with you prior to the response above, but specifically marginalizing a subset of the hobby doesn't instill confidence. At best, it implies they aren't important or numbered enough to matter and can "go do their own thing", which is quite tone deaf when those particular folks are often the deepest into the hobby, spending as much on a single accessory as an entire custom KB. SO yeah, that molehill is starting to look awfully steep...

Who am I marginalizing? I was just pointing out that (at the time of my post) most of the opinions against this change were coming from very OG community members & I really don't see where you got me implying for them to "do their own thing" when I plainly stated that I'd love to be part of the planning & execution of US based, GH/community driven meetup in lieu of Keycon next year. As far as the spending thing goes, first off it doesn't matter to me how much someone spends, if they are into custom keyboards they are part of the community. 2nd off if you could see the scars my bank account has gotten from the hobby over the years you would easily count me in as one of the marginalized subset.

Anyways this is not something I want to debate about. If it came off as I was saying the OG members opinion doesn't matter & they can go do their own thing, I apologize for that since that is definitely not what I was shooting for. I really just wanted to point out that while Keycon undoubtedly started as a GH based community driven event, I feel it has grown beyond that to become the defacto biggest & best meetup for the whole community. With that I think it would be better handled by someone who has lines of communication & relationships with most if not all the bigger companies that supply our wares & the vendors who sell them. I also feel that if it is going that way it shouldn't be constrained to being a strictly US based event. Finally if that is the future of Keycon that opens up the possibility of making a new yearly meetup that is more in line with Keycons of the past. Really I'm just trying to present the possibility of turning this change in Keycon into a positive thing for everyone, instead of being resistant to the change.
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Group Buys and Preorders / Re: [GB] KKB Skidata Neo | GB Live Now!
« Last post by Rob27shred on Sun, 02 June 2024, 13:38:47 »
Whew, almost forgot today is the last day for this! I was originally gonna order the base kit too, but I'm a little tight on cash right now & have GMK Skiidata. So I ended up ordering the alert, extension, R5, & relegendables kits! I know shape wise KKB keys fit perfectly with GMK keys (they're not the exact same shapes, but so close you'd never notice), now fingers crossed the color matching is on point!
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KeyCon 2025 / Re: Keycon 2025
« Last post by Puddsy on Sun, 02 June 2024, 13:16:25 »
happy to go to germany but i draw the line at florida, just have it in atlanta if you want it to be in the south

flying internationally with keyboards is a nightmare but there are worse things. it frankly wouldn't be much more expensive for me to get to germany from the east coast than it would be for me to get to like, san francisco
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] UMBRA : 60% by IV Works
« Last post by pixelpusher on Sun, 02 June 2024, 12:44:15 »
It might look nice with a Domikey set on it, since the space bar is similar in shape to the front bezel  :cool:
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Group Buys and Preorders / Re: [GB] GMK Nimbus ☁️ | GB SUCCESSFULLY ENDED
« Last post by OrinNYC on Sun, 02 June 2024, 10:54:25 »
Alphakeys customer here.

Alphakeys have gone radio silent and it doesn't look likely they will fulfil their Nimbus orders. Is there any way to find out if Alphakeys paid their bill to GMK for Nimbus?

I emailed alphakeys with no response and filed a paypal claim in order to get refunded - which they didn't repond to either.
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Off Topic / Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Last post by pixelpusher on Sun, 02 June 2024, 10:32:48 »
It's not a broken brain in most cases. It's bad upbringing. Incorrect information.  This disinformation is deliberate instilled by the local and state regime.

A lot is disinformation for sure.  I think this is one of the things that "AI" has been very good at. We used to just blanket say that it was "Social Media" feeding the narrative.  But far reaching "AI" has become the buzzword now.  The truth is, it's humans with a digital tool that does a good job.  AI taught to pinpoint exactly what information people get in their "X" feed, their Instagram reel, their TikTok, whatever "news" they think they're getting and feed it with exactly the narrative you want to push.  It's already been happening for at least a decade.

I saw outrage after Orange ****ler was convicted of 34 felony charges for election fraud.  Almost every talking point said that "Biden's DOJ" prosecuted him unfairly and the Judge was crooked.  I mean, you can't get much further from the truth.  But that's what they were saying.

You can see how the disinformation was built.  The first thing that happened was that the DOJ looked into Trump illegally holding Classified documents.  Then Trump was in court for civil fraud which was decided in a non-jury trial.  A bench trial.  Which is quite common.  Then you have the issue where he was recently convicted by a jury of 12 members for falsifying business records in order to keep a steamy news story out of the press just before the election cycle started.  It was an open and shut case of business record fraud.  There was essentially no defense put forward because the evidence was so clear.

Now string them all together and you get "Biden's DOJ (1st case which is suspended indefinitely) dragged Drump to court, where the crooked Judge convicted him (2nd trial where he has to pay $355million from a bench trial where the judge passed the sentence)"  If you bring up falsification of business records they either don't know what you're talking about (since most people on Earth assume that Trump falsifies every business record to game the system), or they think that what he did was not a big deal and he shouldn't face repercussions from it.
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KeyCon 2025 / Re: Keycon 2025
« Last post by CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2024, 09:40:35 »
Been reading through all the replies and just have a couple things to note.

There definitely seems to be a subset of artisan enthusiasts here that would like to see something happen in the US instead of Germany. I think there is a great opportunity for this group to plan a smaller event (ArtisanCon TM) for 2025. I definitely loved to see everyone in SLC, and get that its more challenging to make it to Germany. My suggestion is to go for it! Plan an event with your friends here and make it happen.

Nice of you to be so ready to separate out the community. 

Agreed with 3tonjack. Last time I checked being into artisans was just as much a part of the community as any other subinterest like vintage, switches, keyboards, or keysets. I'm glad that parts of the community can immediately be discarded when it's not convenient...

I also don't think that the location is the issue. It's impossible to pick one location that will make everyone happy unfortunately. I think the intent and actions are. If you're going to use the Keycon name, then it should be community driven. Not "it's in good hands with NK" and Mike and his team can just do whatever without even posting an IC here on GH. Honestly if it was called "NK and GMK con" I would have no issues. You're taking our event for your own.
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Off Topic / Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Last post by tp4tissue on Sun, 02 June 2024, 08:50:11 »
It's not a broken brain in most cases. It's bad upbringing. Incorrect information.  This disinformation is deliberate instilled by the local and state regime.
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Off Topic / Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Last post by tp4tissue on Sun, 02 June 2024, 08:47:21 »
You don't need a TV when you have a home theater.

Most of what you hear about "the rich" is total B.S and misdirection, they don't want you to know how they really live.

Tp4 knows how they live, they don't have nice TVs.  It's mostly liquor + you-know-what.

The theaters are also dusty and mostly not-updated.
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Off Topic / Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Last post by kurplop on Sun, 02 June 2024, 08:37:36 »
Imagine having such a broken brain that a guilty conviction causes you to support someone more

A similar statement was echoed after the OJ Simpson trial but that may be a one-sided perspective that isn’t taking into account the life experiences of those who do so. An inner-city minority who has seen police corruption firsthand, may rationally have believed Simpson’s innocence while those who have had positive experiences with law enforcement might have a disparate but still rational belief.
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