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« on: Fri, 02 July 2010, 20:50:54 »


Not much better, I know, and kinda uncreative and generic for the first three, and they'll probably look much better in Helvetica (don't have it).

The last one is a finger pressing down on a key(U), N, a spring(I), C, a trackpoint(O), M, and P.  (inspired by eye-bee-M)

Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 02 July 2010, 21:09:44 »
Trolling started out in bulletin boards/mailing lists where old timers would post threads about certain discussion topics that had been done to death to differentiate the old timers from the argumentative newbies. Trolling as we know it really kicked off when old timers pretending to be newbies posted to these troll topics with obviously over-the-top replies that satirized the sort of arguments that newbies would make in order to provoke comical responses from the real newbies.

I'm not saying that the OP is trolling by any means, it's just that seeing a thread about this particular topic made me think of the above...

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 02 July 2010, 21:25:53 »
I confess. I have 23 alternate identities on this forum.
I trolled Geekhack and all I got was an eponymous SPOS.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 03 July 2010, 15:15:32 »
I think they should use something like this:


Yeah... that's better.
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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 03 July 2010, 17:34:37 »
I think the logo should have a horn on the forehead of one of the letters.
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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 03 July 2010, 19:39:25 »
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I think the logo should have a horn on the forehead of one of the letters.


Like this?
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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 03 July 2010, 20:04:27 »
Unicomp doesn't need a logo. Just get rid of the whole kit and kaboodle.
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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 02:21:55 »
haha not quite, but i like that...

I was thinking more along the lines of a unicorn... unicomp... see what i did there?
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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 05:17:11 »
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Like this?
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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 08:11:43 »
Unicomp should change their name all together.  I would come up with my own ideas, but they would be incredibly lame.  Any ideas?
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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 08:20:55 »
I vote for the "Spring Buckler Association of America"
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 08:35:19 »
Jesus, what did you do to Walter?!

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 09:26:58 »
How about iBM? That same sales pitch worked for Crapple to sell their stupid colored boxes.
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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 10:52:54 »
Coloured boxes which are stupid, or boxes which are coloured stupidly?
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:18:43 »
there's a skeerl in yer ass... er... hat.
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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:24:31 »
I mean i-Crap's.

Those things were just overpriced junk even when they were new. Less than half the speed of a Pentium III but twice the cost. I feel bad for the idiots who actually wasted their money on those things. They were just worse than PC's in every way. And they looked gay.
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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:30:09 »
Less than half the clock speed != less than half the speed.

P4s are oddly coming to mind again.
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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:35:14 »
But G3's were pieces of crap. They were slow. Pentium III's ran much better.

You all gotta remember I had to use those i-Craps for years. The 933Mhz Pentium III systems at work ran much better than the 400Mhz G3's (I don't remember the exact speed; they were somewhere in the 400's).

Oh, and even the mice on the I-Crap's were retarded. Talk about some serious RSI with those dumb round mice.
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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:41:06 »
I might actually be able to agree with you on the round mice point. My wrist just did a rather painful twitch when I remembered having to use those things.
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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 13:54:00 »
I've got an old Beige G3 and don't find it particularly bad. And it's my only computer with a mechanical keyboard hooked up to it (some third party ADB thing with black Alps and reversed Ctrl-Caps lock config)

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 14:08:37 »
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I mean i-Crap's.
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Those things were just overpriced junk even when they were new. Less than half the speed of a Pentium III but twice the cost. I feel bad for the idiots who actually wasted their money on those things. They were just worse than PC's in every way. And they looked gay.


Yeah and they were released in 1998, IBM's PC 300 series could already suprass it in 1997. They were outdated when they were released in other words.
I hate the iMac G3s in every way possible, those were the first computers I used ironically... I didn't think much of them at the time, but boy, when I got my IBM, I realized how truly inferior they were... didn't learn anything from them. I learned to type own my own as time passed, that's the best way, rather than forcing it down the throat of children on iMac G3s. And did you know you could hit ctrl+alt+delete and it would bring up a windows-like menu? Apple still did a lot of copying of windows back then, so it wasn't as bad as OSX.

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Less than half the clock speed != less than half the speed.

P4s are oddly coming to mind again.


P4s are perfectly fine, with a nice 3.8 Ghz P4 you're on your way.
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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 15:29:45 »
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Yes, but this has been taken to idiotic heights around here when the same people make the same troll arguments that everyone knows are wrong.

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 17:08:14 »
do you reckon iMav can put a filter in place that stop's EIBM and M$W from submitting a post with  the following phrases in it... "Apple, Jobs, G3," and a nice wildcard to catch i-anything.

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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 17:59:15 »
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Yeah and they were released in 1998, IBM's PC 300 series could already suprass it in 1997. They were outdated when they were released in other words.
I hate the iMac G3s in every way possible, those were the first computers I used ironically... I didn't think much of them at the time, but boy, when I got my IBM, I realized how truly inferior they were... didn't learn anything from them. I learned to type own my own as time passed, that's the best way, rather than forcing it down the throat of children on iMac G3s. And did you know you could hit ctrl+alt+delete and it would bring up a windows-like menu? Apple still did a lot of copying of windows back then, so it wasn't as bad as OSX.



P4s are perfectly fine, with a nice 3.8 Ghz P4 you're on your way.


I like 3.8Ghz Pentium 4's. I can fry eggs while using my computer.

And the Crapple's got even worse than the iMac G3's. You never had to use these at work:


They were basically these things with color displays.
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:22:16 »
I've never seen one of those things... what is it?

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:28:14 »
Power Mackintrash G3 All-in-one. At work we always called them the "Dino's".
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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:30:03 »
Unless I am mistaken, that first picture is an old Power Mac G3, even worse than the painfully-slow iMac G3's.  I used them back in elementary school.  The only thing they were good for was hacking into other people files with the master password.

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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:38:01 »
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I've never seen one of those things... what is it?

For serious?

It's a Power Mac G3.

They actually don't suck, they're just really ugly.

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:39:09 »
They suck and are extremely ugly. But their keyboards weren't as bad as the I-Crap's.
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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:40:20 »
I've never seen an all-in-one example. The G3 power macs I've encountered are usually -



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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:40:37 »
They came with the AppleDesign M2980 IIRC. It's worse than the Gen1 iMac keyboard.

The computer didn't suck. Beat the living snot out of what was going on in our little IBM-compatible world at the time.
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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:41:23 »
CH - I believe it was education-market-only. My high school had some left over in the media arts program while awaiting the G5 deliveries.
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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:42:50 »
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The computer didn't suck. Beat the living snot out of what was going on in our little IBM-compatible world at the time.


My Gateway2000 from the year before could beat the snot of a Power Macintrash G3. Besides, all those things ran was Mac OS, which at the time was useless garbage.
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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:45:09 »
My college is dumping a few eMacs at the moment. Rescued one, and it keeps freezing up all the time. Our resident Mac fanboi proclaims it to be a hardware issue, but there's no way in hell I'm going to save another awkwardly shaped 25Kg Mac in the vain hope that it might work...

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« Reply #34 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:49:26 »
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My Gateway2000 from the year before could beat the snot of a Power Macintrash G3. Besides, all those things ran was Mac OS, which at the time was useless garbage.


You've apparently never tried to edit video on your Pentium 1.

And apparently, never have on a G3 either.

It's virtually impossible on one, and practically impressive on the other.
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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 18:51:16 »
SGIs with MIPS CPUs were used for video editing and 3D graphics stuff... and they often had CPUs with clock-speeds as low as 200MHz.

****ing x86...

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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 19:17:46 »
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I like 3.8Ghz Pentium 4's. I can fry eggs while using my computer.

They don't get that hot unless improper cooling (but hey, iMacs get so hot that they had to release firmware to speed up the fans)... have a decent copper heatsink with a two-way fan flow and it'll get good temperatures.
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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 19:22:19 »
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but hey, iMacs get so hot that they had to release firmware to speed up the fans.


I remember the computer lab at the elementary school was so warm in the winter time.  Now I know why...
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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 04 July 2010, 19:24:40 »
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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 00:39:06 »
Lol, they still get that hot...you're just dissipating it at the same rate as it builds up (or something like that).

Unplug the fan and watch how quickly it powers off due to overheat, even idle.

Do the same with a P3, it'll run for quite some time. P2, P3, AthlonXP, Sempron, Athlon64...they'll all survive considerably longer than a P4.

(once upon a time I got curious and did this test. YMMV, don't blame me if you roast something because you took this as actual advice to unplug your fan)
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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 01:42:33 »
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Lol, they still get that hot...you're just dissipating it at the same rate as it builds up (or something like that).

Unplug the fan and watch how quickly it powers off due to overheat, even idle.

Do the same with a P3, it'll run for quite some time. P2, P3, AthlonXP, Sempron, Athlon64...they'll all survive considerably longer than a P4.

(once upon a time I got curious and did this test. YMMV, don't blame me if you roast something because you took this as actual advice to unplug your fan)

The idle thing is true -- my P4 sucks the same amount of power idle or not.

Actually, Tom's hardware did a test with various CPUs, the Pentium 4s did the best without a heatsink, they simply slowed down. The P3s survived, but froze. The AMD ones (athlon included) started smoking. lol, ****ty AMD.
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I seriously think people need to stop being so hard on Pentium 4 chips. They're not bad at all. My 3.4 Ghz one gets very good cooling and performs well, I can't wait for a 3.8 ghz one in the near future.
Although, when they DON'T get good cooling, yeah, they do get warm -- but that's the same with any processor today.
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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 05:20:52 »
The problem is that they need some big ****-off cooler to keep them under a stable temperature. With the same sort of cooling, you could have run an overclocked Athlon 64 at the same temperature. I know which one I would want. Nevermind how expensive the things were.

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The AMD ones (athlon included) started smoking. lol, ****ty AMD.


AFAIK, that was a motherboard issue, and not a problem with the chips themselves.

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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 10:14:23 »
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The problem is that they need some big ****-off cooler to keep them under a stable temperature. With the same sort of cooling, you could have run an overclocked Athlon 64 at the same temperature. I know which one I would want. Nevermind how expensive the things were.

AFAIK, that was a motherboard issue, and not a problem with the chips themselves.


Actually, the core i7 heatsinks are larger than any P4 I've seen previously.

The core2duo computer I have has a larger heatsink than the P4. Although it runs around 30 Celsius opposed to 50.
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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 14:24:31 »
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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 15:27:18 »
Who said anything about running a chip with no heatsink? I said unplug the fan. Worlds apart...

You should expect nothing less of total chip failure if you run it with no heatsink. It should, however, be able to survive with the fan disconnected at idle.

P4 will power off as a self protection mechanism before the others will because the others are efficient enough that passive cooling will keep them relatively stable by comparison (again at idle, and other factors play in like ambient air temp)

Again - not a suggestion that somebody actually should do this. If you were to, it'd be very advisable to keep an eye on temperature figures assuming your know your motherboard's reported numbers are accurate.
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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 15:31:26 »
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Actually, the core i7 heatsinks are larger than any P4 I've seen previously.

The core2duo computer I have has a larger heatsink than the P4. Although it runs around 30 Celsius opposed to 50.


Yeah, but Core i7s are very quick, which sort of vidicates the heat they output. The fastest Pentium 4 was slower than the fastest Athlon 64, and outputted far more heat, and had no 64-bit capabilities (at least until they released those 64 bit ones when the P4 was NEOL)

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 18:35:35 »
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Who said anything about running a chip with no heatsink? I said unplug the fan. Worlds apart...

You should expect nothing less of total chip failure if you run it with no heatsink. It should, however, be able to survive with the fan disconnected at idle.

P4 will power off as a self protection mechanism before the others will because the others are efficient enough that passive cooling will keep them relatively stable by comparison (again at idle, and other factors play in like ambient air temp)

Again - not a suggestion that somebody actually should do this. If you were to, it'd be very advisable to keep an eye on temperature figures assuming your know your motherboard's reported numbers are accurate.


I forgot to reattach the fan cable for my laptop once (granted it had a 35W Celeron, but it was Northwood-based, so counts as a P4) and it hit around 90-something before I realized the mistake (it was throttling). A Dell D630 with a 35W C2D running folding@home with fans at full blast hit 93 degrees on a regular basis, on the other hand.

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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 21:34:00 »
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Yeah, but Core i7s are very quick, which sort of vidicates the heat they output. The fastest Pentium 4 was slower than the fastest Athlon 64, and outputted far more heat, and had no 64-bit capabilities (at least until they released those 64 bit ones when the P4 was NEOL)


They had 64-bit P4s in 2005. Core2Duo wasn't out for another year yet... so the P4 was still intel's top chip.
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« Reply #48 on: Mon, 05 July 2010, 23:41:50 »
I wonder which of those chips would be best suited for mocking up a better Unicomp logo...
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« Reply #49 on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 04:06:18 »
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They had 64-bit P4s in 2005. Core2Duo wasn't out for another year yet... so the P4 was still intel's top chip.


Wasn't that what I basically said?