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Title: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 06:59:34
Well, the topic already says all that's needed to say:
Who is interested in one 100% Open Source Acrylic Case for the GH60 PCB? Simple Acrylic Layered - no fancy stuff, clear and simple.
I and Photekq were talking about this project and we would love to see whom is interested in ...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:50:57
I would be interested.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:24:49
Would just like to add it doesn't need to be acrylic. Will most likely be a layered case but it could be machined from anything - metal, wood, acrylic etc.

I'm just waiting for the GH60 PCB to be finalised and then I will start work on the case.

I will try my best to ensure there are multiple options like hhkb etc.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:25:37
Can we please get a 2TU style case? Aluminum-Acrylic-Aluminum sandwich case?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:27:24
Can we please get a 2TU style case? Aluminum-Acrylic-Aluminum sandwich case?
Sure, but bear in mind that in order to get it as neat and tidy as the 2TU it would need to be machined and not laser cut.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:36:37
Laser cut is lame anyways. I like seeing the machine finishes. Makes my inner engineer all warm and fuzzy :D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:47:39
Generally I am interested in all case projects, as I know that 80% of them will die before getting finished. For GH60 I think there are already a few projects in the pipeline.....but as mentioned....that doesnt mean anything.  :D

For me personally it would be important to have an HHKB layout as I would like to make an ISO-HHKB. \o/
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:59:40
Open source is right up my favorites list. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pasph on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:01:29
Something new like wood or carbon fiber
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:09:43
Generally I am interested in all case projects, as I know that 80% of them will die before getting finished. For GH60 I think there are already a few projects in the pipeline.....but as mentioned....that doesnt mean anything.  :D

For me personally it would be important to have an HHKB layout as I would like to make an ISO-HHKB. \o/
They die just because there isn't enough people interested in.  The GH60 PCB is selling good as far as I know and one open source case like this one will help all those guys without a case (or without money to pay for a US$150 case).
As I said - our idea is to make one simple case, we are not willing to compete with the professional cases that are already being sold out there.

To be honest Photekq already designed one basic case, we are just waiting the final PCB version to get the right dimensions.
So, it's already almost touchable - it's not just another dream ...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:19:32
Alright let's get this ball rolling. I already made this for agodinhost a few weeks ago but I think it's a good start.

It's a very simple three layer case and is meant to be laser cut. It's not particularly tidy and will have exposed screws but it's extremely simple and should be extremely cheap.

Top layer should be 1.5mm thick. Middle should be 10mm minimum, but can be as thick as you want. Bottom can be any thickness.

Pictures here : http://imgur.com/a/fOSwe
Files here : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5wnpv17iftjqbp8/JR_rWjfHpo

All case files will be put in this folder in the future : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/486yq39dyllmvya/Qn5BGenjp0
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:27:37
id be in
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:38:07
Do you think counterboring the holes would add a lot to the cost? That way the screwheads arent sticking up out of the case.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:39:32
Do you think counterboring the holes would add a lot to the cost? That way the screwheads arent sticking up out of the case.
Problem with machining the top plate is that the switch holes have to have internal radii. May have to come up with a new design of switch hole to allow it to be machined and to allow switch tops to be removed.

For low quantities machining can be cheaper than laser cutting so price isn't the problem.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:42:43
What does counterboring the screw holes have to do with the switch holes?

Edit: Actually, if the plate is as thin as the plate I have for my KMAC, there wouldn't be enough room for a counterbore...But my question still stands. I'm just curious :D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:45:35
What does counterboring the screw holes have to do with the switch holes?
In order to have counterbored screw holes you would need to machine the pieces not laser cut them (unless you were to glue two laser cut pieces together). What I'm saying is that with laser cutting you don't need to have radii on internal corners, whereas with machining you do. I'm unsure whether these interal radii would stop the switch holes from functioning properly.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:47:11
Gotcha. I got confused since I asked about the 2TU layout before and was still under the impression that your posted case was going to be machined.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:47:57
Gotcha. I got confused since I asked about the 2TU layout before and was still under the impression that your posted case was going to be machined.
The one I posted is designed to be laser cut. Working on two cases for machining right now :D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:52:45
Looks very nice, Photekq. All you need is a cutout on the middle layer for the USB connector.

CPTBadAss, I think you could just drill some countersinks after laser cutting. Use a drill press, or even a hand drill.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:54:21
Looks very nice, Photekq. All you need is a cutout on the middle layer for the USB connector.

CPTBadAss, I think you could just drill some countersinks after laser cutting. Use a drill press, or even a hand drill.
Will be adding the USB hole once the PCB is finalised. You could add countersink holes but not counterbore holes (at least not big enough to accomodate a full screw head) like cpt suggested.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Grim Fandango on Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:59:22
id be in

Depending on the price.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:08:21
CPTBadAss, I think you could just drill some countersinks after laser cutting. Use a drill press, or even a hand drill.

It would have to pass through the plate and then end in the case though right? I initially meant that the countersink should be in the plate but I don't think that would work.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:15:51
Use flat head machine screws that go all the way through the case (just barely), and use nuts on the bottom. The top side will be flush, and you'll never see the nuts on the bottom.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:18:17
Use flat head machine screws that go all the way through the case (just barely), and use nuts on the bottom. The top side will be flush, and you'll never see the nuts on the bottom.
Yep. This is the tidiest thing you can do with a fully lasercut case.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:25:06
I don't like seeing bolts from the top either. Possible to make layer 4 that will go on the top similar to the mid section, and have drilled (not all the way through obviously) and tapped so the bolts go through from the bottom and thread into the top border? Hell tap every layer for that matter so it is held together well.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:27:06
I don't like seeing bolts from the top either. Possible to make layer 4 that will go on the top similar to the mid section, and have drilled (not all the way through obviously) and tapped so the bolts go through from the bottom and thread into the top border? Hell tap every layer for that matter so it is held together well.
You'll see that soon. I'm making a few designs. The one posted earlier is the cheapest and is meant for laser cutting. Will be posting 2 pretty soon that are meant for machining. One is how you described.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:33:03
Nice. I keep seeing lots of nice concepts for cases, but too few seem to be interested in working with cheaper materials. Hoping to see some solutions in the under $75 tier that are actual cases.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:44:04
I changed the top layer to my HHKB layout. Added some screw holes. And made the cutout for the USB in the middle layer. :D

(http://i.imgur.com/24Trfkw.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/QBO4cY4.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/jCDM69C.png)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:45:43
I changed the top layer to my HHKB layout. Added some screw holes. And made the cutout for the USB in the middle layer. :D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/24Trfkw.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QBO4cY4.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jCDM69C.png)

Nice :D I have added some more screwholes to the design.. The pictures I posted earlier were from a long time ago. I'll update the files shortly.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: mashby on Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:35:33
I would be interested.

(http://i.imgur.com/hq1sz.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:39:25
cool.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:59:04
Nice. I keep seeing lots of nice concepts for cases, but too few seem to be interested in working with cheaper materials. Hoping to see some solutions in the under $75 tier that are actual cases.
That's the idea!
JDCarpe mentioned something like US$ 35,00 ...
Not sure if it's possible tought
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:02:57
Second case : 'Simple Machined' Basically the same as the laser cut one but with countersunk/threaded holes. Tidier but most likely more expensive.

http://i.imgur.com/Y1fq80V.png

More will come later/tomorrow. Just trying to work some stuff out.

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:05:50
Pictures here : http://imgur.com/a/fOSwe
Files here : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5wnpv17iftjqbp8/JR_rWjfHpo

All case files will be put in this folder in the future : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/486yq39dyllmvya/Qn5BGenjp0
What about Github?
I do love it's sharing and versioning features ...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:07:06
Pictures here : http://imgur.com/a/fOSwe
Files here : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5wnpv17iftjqbp8/JR_rWjfHpo

All case files will be put in this folder in the future : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/486yq39dyllmvya/Qn5BGenjp0
What about Github?
I do love it's sharing and versioning features ...
I've never used it. I'll give it a try later on.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:09:24
Nice. I keep seeing lots of nice concepts for cases, but too few seem to be interested in working with cheaper materials. Hoping to see some solutions in the under $75 tier that are actual cases.
That's the idea!
JDCarpe mentioned something like US$ 35,00 ...
Not sure if it's possible tought

I was thinking for acrylic at that price.

I would bet that if we could order these in volume, we could get the price of the 3-layer laser cut design, in either stainless steel or aluminum, down to around $75 including hardware.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:33:41
Second case : 'Simple Machined' Basically the same as the laser cut one but with countersunk/threaded holes. Tidier but most likely more expensive.

http://i.imgur.com/Y1fq80V.png

Oooo, I really like this one. Looking good mang
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:56:03
depending on price i'd be in

def interested
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: nebo on Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:56:57
I like it a lot, would be interested depending what tops and materials are used. Can never have too many cases.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:02:52
I like it a lot, would be interested depending what tops and materials are used. Can never have too many cases.
Like the title says it's open source. Once the designs are actually done you can take the files to any laser cutter/machine shop and have them make the components from any material you want.

I can also adapt the top plate to any layout.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: regack on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:23:34
clean and simple... I like it.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:51:35
Case 3 - "Semi-Complex Machined"

I really like this one. As you can see there are standoffs on the top plate with screwholes in them. These are here because I wasn't happy having a threaded 1.5mm layer.. It just didn't seem secure enough to me.

As you can see it fits nicely into the middle layer and the bottom layer has countersunk holes. Overall I think this has a really tidy appearance since no screws are visible and I think it's worth the extra machining costs.

(http://i.imgur.com/UhCXizf.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8Yrg5wy.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Kq9eFWw.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/HSwzugK.png)

And a cross section of the screws :
(http://i.imgur.com/TnI4w2r.png)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:55:27
Looking nice! Now I need to find another PCB :p

Edit - So removable switch tops and top piece is used as plate??
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: nebo on Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:57:40
Love the screws on the bottom, makes it one of the cleanest/minimalist cases out there.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:00:44
the cutout for the usb connector is missing :)

(or is this the leek for the wireless add on 0.o)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:01:26
the cutout for the usb connector is missing :)

(or is this the leek for the wireless add on 0.o)
I haven't added USB holes to any of the designs since the GH60 PCB hasn't been finalised. Once it is I will add the holes and make sure the PCB fits.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:12:40
Love the screws on the bottom, makes it one of the cleanest/minimalist cases out there.

Definitively second the comment!  Very spiffy work!

Personally, I think I'd go with a fourth layer, as I like cases with some shrouding for the key stems.  Perhaps making this top layer the one with the blind-threaded inserts, just a simple rectangle the same size as the middle layer, maybe 2mm in thickness.

Lots of possibilities with your design!   ;D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:14:14

Definitively second the comment!  Very spiffy work!

Personally, I think I'd go with a fourth layer, as I like cases with some shrouding for the key stems.  Perhaps making this top layer the one with the blind-threaded inserts, just a simple rectangle the same size as the middle layer, maybe 2mm in thickness.

Lots of possibilities with your design!   ;D
This is going to be the fourth 'Complex machined' design.

Thank you all for the positive comments. Feedback is always welcome.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: regack on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:33:38
ooh, I want to get the middle layer made out of acrylic, then I can put LEDs on the underside of the PCB and have it glow out the sides... yessss... that is what I want...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:34:36
ooh, I want to get the middle layer made out of acrylic, then I can put LEDs on the underside of the PCB and have it glow out the sides... yessss... that is what I want...
I usually hate acrylic but that sounds awesome..
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:36:28
ooh, I want to get the middle layer made out of acrylic, then I can put LEDs on the underside of the PCB and have it glow out the sides... yessss... that is what I want...

You could have several middle layers done in different colored acrylic. Then use white LEDs, and you don't have to desolder to change the light color. :D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:37:57
You could have several middle layers done in different colored acrylic. Then use white LEDs, and you don't have to desolder to change the light color. :D
This is one bonus of a layered case. You can split the middle layer into multiple layers if you wish and you can make it as thick as you want.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:39:25
Photekq, what size machine screws did you design those holes for?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:39:57
Photekq, what size machine screws did you design those holes for?
M3 - length is dependant on the thicknesses.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:44:37
Photekq, what size machine screws did you design those holes for?
M3 - length is dependant on the thicknesses.

Okay, thank you. :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:53:01
This project is awesome and the case designs are wonderful and I would definitely buy a couple of these.  Assuming you'll be machining in a GB.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:56:33
This project is awesome and the case designs are wonderful and I would definitely buy a couple of these.  Assuming you'll be machining in a GB.
I personally won't be doing one, but if anyone else wishes to run one that's fine with me. Of course there is still some work that needs to be done but it shouldn't be too long of a wait until they're ready.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:08:54
This project is awesome and the case designs are wonderful and I would definitely buy a couple of these.  Assuming you'll be machining in a GB.
I personally won't be doing one, but if anyone else wishes to run one that's fine with me. Of course there is still some work that needs to be done but it shouldn't be too long of a wait until they're ready.
I'll, think on me like a beta tester ...
Make your magic and I'll help whenever I can.
 :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:13:49
I'll, think on me like a beta tester ...
Make your magic and I'll help whenever I can.
 :)
Sounds good!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:18:57
Case 3 - "Semi-Complex Machined"

I really like this one. As you can see there are standoffs on the top plate with screwholes in them. These are here because I wasn't happy having a threaded 1.5mm layer.. It just didn't seem secure enough to me.

As you can see it fits nicely into the middle layer and the bottom layer has countersunk holes. Overall I think this has a really tidy appearance since no screws are visible and I think it's worth the extra machining costs.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UhCXizf.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8Yrg5wy.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Kq9eFWw.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HSwzugK.png)


And a cross section of the screws :
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TnI4w2r.png)



I would be interested in one of this with winkeyless. Kthnx.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:21:45

I would be interested in one of this with winkeyless. Kthnx.
Do you mean 1.5/1/1.5 or do you mean 1.5/no switch hole/1.5? Either way it can be done.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Binge on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:07:03
I support this 100% open 60% case project.  for 100% 60% love.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:18:32
for 100% 60% love.
??
I'm kinda lost here, gosh!!!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:19:31
for 100% 60% love.
??
I'm kinda lost here, gosh!!!
He 100% loves 60% keyboards :))
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:39:01
for 100% 60% love.
??
I'm kinda lost here, gosh!!!
He 100% loves 60% keyboards :))
humpf
I thought it was sex related.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:01:48
Wow this is shaping up fast.  Giving me ideas...
(http://i.imgur.com/wXy7erD.png)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:07:59
Wow this is shaping up fast.  Giving me ideas...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wXy7erD.png)

You know me man. I work fast  :)). Nice to see stuff happening with Sigma btw.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:10:05
It's been done for a long time.  Can't bring myself to get a case straightened out >.<
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:11:51
It's been done for a long time.  Can't bring myself to get a case straightened out >.<
You know I like your projects. Let me know if I can help.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:29:33
It's been done for a long time.  Can't bring myself to get a case straightened out >.<

Wow I'm very impressed with your PCB designing skills. I am pretty adept at AutoCAD but man designing PCBs looks even harder.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Sai on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:45:08
Case 3 - "Semi-Complex Machined"

I really like this one. As you can see there are standoffs on the top plate with screwholes in them. These are here because I wasn't happy having a threaded 1.5mm layer.. It just didn't seem secure enough to me.

As you can see it fits nicely into the middle layer and the bottom layer has countersunk holes. Overall I think this has a really tidy appearance since no screws are visible and I think it's worth the extra machining costs.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UhCXizf.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8Yrg5wy.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Kq9eFWw.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HSwzugK.png)


And a cross section of the screws :
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TnI4w2r.png)


i like this design and subscribed to this thread.
also, thank you for making this open source.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:48:38
Case 3 - "Semi-Complex Machined"

I really like this one. As you can see there are standoffs on the top plate with screwholes in them. These are here because I wasn't happy having a threaded 1.5mm layer.. It just didn't seem secure enough to me.

As you can see it fits nicely into the middle layer and the bottom layer has countersunk holes. Overall I think this has a really tidy appearance since no screws are visible and I think it's worth the extra machining costs.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UhCXizf.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8Yrg5wy.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Kq9eFWw.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HSwzugK.png)


And a cross section of the screws :
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TnI4w2r.png)


I really like this. A cheaper alternative could be to use dense wood for the middle layer and glue standoffs to the top plate instead of machining the threads. I might have to experiment with that.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:53:16
also, thank you for making this open source.
Please thank agodinhost for this. He was the person who suggested it to me. This thread wouldn't be here if it weren't for him.
I really like this. A cheaper alternative could be to use dense wood for the middle layer and glue standoffs to the top plate instead of machining the threads. I might have to experiment with that.
Experimentation is exactly what we wanted to encourage by doing this. Please update us if you do this!

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:54:13
Case 3 - "Semi-Complex Machined"

I really like this one. As you can see there are standoffs on the top plate with screwholes in them. These are here because I wasn't happy having a threaded 1.5mm layer.. It just didn't seem secure enough to me.

As you can see it fits nicely into the middle layer and the bottom layer has countersunk holes. Overall I think this has a really tidy appearance since no screws are visible and I think it's worth the extra machining costs.

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Looks like a **** ton of machining, ie expensive
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:56:33
Looks like a **** ton of machining, ie expensive
It's the top plate that's the problem and it may be best to have it laser cut and attach standoffs after similar to what raccoon suggested. The base and middle are simple and don't require much machining.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:07:46
The top plate hole looks like it was was copy/paste from the first Phantom revision file I sent you. You don't need the inner spacebar cutout, that's for Leopold spacebar and wouldn't make sense for this plate. Second, my first revision didn't account for plate thickness made in the US (0.0625"), so costar stabs might have problems. You need to change those as well.

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:35:42
The top plate hole looks like it was was copy/paste from the first Phantom revision file I sent you. You don't need the inner spacebar cutout, that's for Leopold spacebar and wouldn't make sense for this plate. Second, my first revision didn't account for plate thickness made in the US (0.0625"), so costar stabs might have problems. You need to change those as well.
The plate was most likely from a Phantom file since when I first made the layered design I didn't have access to any GH60 files. It's purely to give an idea of how it would look.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:55:42
I'm having this done with acrylic and alu. Very inexpensive. Very easy to produce. If you want it open you could simply remove the top layer.

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Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:02:33
When gluing, do you glue it with excess on the sides so that it is cut off during production?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:09:50
When gluing, do you glue it with excess on the sides so that it is cut off during production?

nope they are glued afterwards, but I use a very long cure time clear epoxy glue, the excess can be easily removed.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:12:02
I'm having this done with acrylic and alu. Very inexpensive. Very easy to produce. If you want it open you could simply remove the top layer.

(Attachment Link)

So you have to mount the switches, then solder the PCB, then screw the case together.... I guess you are committed to this case for good once you solder the PCB in there. Not unlike other acrylic designs, though.

Nice work! :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:16:26
I'm having this done with acrylic and alu. Very inexpensive. Very easy to produce. If you want it open you could simply remove the top layer.

(Attachment Link)

So you have to mount the switches, then solder the PCB, then screw the case together.... I guess you are committed to this case for good once you solder the PCB in there. Not unlike other acrylic designs, though.

Nice work! :)

I can have a plate for $30 from a service near my place. That's not really an issue :P

PS: also I'm not really using a PCB
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:18:02
I'm having this done with acrylic and alu. Very inexpensive. Very easy to produce. If you want it open you could simply remove the top layer.

(Attachment Link)
Nice!
Can we compare it's dimensions with the one that Photekq designed?
I think we could make some sort of standard for 60% cases acrylic cases (at least the internal dimensions and hole positions).
It would help anyone designing PCBs (like me).
Could you share your files Matt3o?
 :D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:25:23
Nice!
Can we compare it's dimensions with the one that Photekq designed?
I think we could make some sort of standard for 60% cases acrylic cases (at least the internal dimensions and hole positions).
It would help anyone designing PCBs (like me).
Could you share your files Matt3o?
 :D

no problem, but I have the prototype in production right now, if it works all my DWGs belong to you. I already had an acrylic case but the thinner layers are a bit fragile/brittle. I have to verify if 8mm is enough for the outer frame.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:28:50
That is pretty much like what I was thinking matt3o, but I would want the mid layer to be one 9mm piece instead of 3x 3mm for a cleaner look. While not an expert, I think it may be enough to drill into the top 2mm and tap that instead of having to glue in standoff. If it doesn't hold well I guess could make the top 4mm and drill in 3mm or whatever.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Sai on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:31:35
i wonder which one do you have more, matt30? case or keyboard  :p
joking aside, that is a pretty impressive work. i need to learn how to design one too.  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:37:22
That is pretty much like what I was thinking matt3o, but I would want the mid layer to be one 9mm piece instead of 3x 3mm for a cleaner look. While not an expert, I think it may be enough to drill into the top 2mm and tap that instead of having to glue in standoff. If it doesn't hold well I guess could make the top 4mm and drill in 3mm or whatever.

My laser cut service doesn't have 9mm orange acrylics. Black acrylic at 9mm is too expensive. The only 9mm acrylic I could find at a decent price is clear/transparent.

Regarding threading acrylics... well I failed miserably, but I'm such a noob :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:38:08
I really like this. A cheaper alternative could be to use dense wood for the middle layer and glue standoffs to the top plate instead of machining the threads. I might have to experiment with that.

One method that TheFlyingRaccoon and I discussed in IRC last night would be to take the layered design and combine the middle and bottom layers. You could then mill that out of any material you like...aluminum, acrylic, wood, etc. Have the top plate laser cut out of aluminum or stainless steel. I think a steel/aluminum top plate on a milled wooden bottom case would look awesome. :D
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:45:44
That's really nice matt3o.

I noticed there is a hole for the insert in the top layer. How are you going to make this hole since it's laser cut? Drill it afterwards?

Nice quads jd.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:52:19
Regarding threading acrylics... well I failed miserably, but I'm such a noob :)
It's not soo easy as it seems, you can't just force the screws in like we do with wood or plastic - it will definitely break the acrylic.

I've used epoxy and sometimes superglue into the holes but I don't like it at all.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 08:56:57
I noticed there is a hole for the insert in the top layer. How are you going to make this hole since it's laser cut? Drill it afterwards?

it is etched (quite a bit)

It's not soo easy as it seems, you can't just force the screws in like we do with wood or plastic - it will definitely break the acrylic.

I've used epoxy and sometimes superglue into the holes but I don't like it at all.

I'm using some threading tools (not the screw directly). But acrylic tends to break easily, so I prefer to glue. I was a modeler and I have some experience with glue :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:00:31
I noticed there is a hole for the insert in the top layer. How are you going to make this hole since it's laser cut? Drill it afterwards?

it is etched (quite a bit)
Oh right.. I had no idea you could do that.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:04:29
Oh right.. I had no idea you could do that.

yeah, if you can cut you can usually also etch. It's just a matter of adjusting power and exposure time.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tym on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:06:51
I have no machinests near me; i wonder if i could get it 3D printed?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: aggiejy on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:14:41
Interested!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:20:14
I have no machinests near me; i wonder if i could get it 3D printed?
I think so, you will need the .stl files for it. To be honest I did thought about that too.
You will need to convert the files to 3d, adjust whatever you need and import it to stl.
I'm not sure about how much they will charge for it and it's a lot of plastic. Just remember that most homebrew printers are limited to 214x214mm.

I think it would be better to create another topic to work on this idea.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tym on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:31:39
Yeah I can convert fine; i just use a plugin. And ill ask my guy when i next place an order.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:14:42
True, you need to use care when tapping acrylic, but if you keep enough material surrounding the hole and use small appropriate size bolt, it is not so likely to fracture. Like I have made some bolted together acrylic 3mm parts with m3 bolt mix steel acrylic for custom PC case stuff and it was ok. Clear mid section would be fine in my eyes, you can always paint on the inside and it looks good. Or drill into inside of mid frame, and place led and the whole thing will light which is also good look.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:58:06
True, you need to use care when tapping acrylic, but if you keep enough material surrounding the hole and use small appropriate size bolt, it is not so likely to fracture. Like I have made some bolted together acrylic 3mm parts with m3 bolt mix steel acrylic for custom PC case stuff and it was ok. Clear mid section would be fine in my eyes, you can always paint on the inside and it looks good. Or drill into inside of mid frame, and place led and the whole thing will light which is also good look.

I don't know about clear side. Might be good with PCB but I hardwire so it is better to hide what's inside :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: daerid on Wed, 12 June 2013, 00:09:48
I'm in for one of these, definitely
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:01:18
Matt3o's design is incredible!

noob questions incoming...
After the GH60 group buy a lot of people are going to be receiving assembled keyboards with no cases only to figure out that they are stuck with a tray style case unless they desolder all the switches and use a different plate.

Would it be possible to create a layered case like Matt3o's that the plates from the gh60 group buy get sandwiched inside of?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:06:42
Matt3o's design is incredible!

noob questions incoming...
After the GH60 group buy a lot of people are going to be receiving assembled keyboards with no cases only to figure out that they are stuck with a tray style case unless they desolder all the switches and use a different plate.

Would it be possible to create a layered case like Matt3o's that the plates from the gh60 group buy get sandwiched inside of?
It would need standoffs. The GB plates are very close to the size of the PCB so they cannot really be sandwiched.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 13 June 2013, 23:28:36
How much room will be remaining between the plate and the PCB? Will there be any at all? edit: figured it out and my idea wouldn't work. :(

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 14 June 2013, 01:45:45
I'm trying to have an acrylic plate 2mm thick (instead of 1.5 for better stability) etched in the position of switch clips to have them slot in. This way you get a 100% acrylic case and you wouldn't need an aluminum plate.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Fri, 12 July 2013, 12:28:10
I'm trying to have an acrylic plate 2mm thick (instead of 1.5 for better stability) etched in the position of switch clips to have them slot in. This way you get a 100% acrylic case and you wouldn't need an aluminum plate.
Any news about your 2mm plate Matt3o?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: AcidFire on Fri, 12 July 2013, 12:47:18
Forgive me if this is already common knowledge here, but here in the shop for mounting holes for 4-40 & M3 we use a dimension of 2.4x2.6mm for designs on the laser. This allows the screws to self tap, however over tightening will crack the acrylic. Thankfully though there's usually enough resistance to tell you when you've got it in the sweet spot.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 12 July 2013, 12:53:04
Interested to see what comes out of this thread!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 12 July 2013, 12:53:48
I haven't forgotten about this btw. I've got the newest measurements for the GH60 so will try and update the files soon. I've just been a bit lazy since I'm on my summer holidays..
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 12 July 2013, 19:34:22
You got my vote!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Sun, 14 July 2013, 21:10:57
I haven't forgotten about this btw. I've got the newest measurements for the GH60 so will try and update the files soon. I've just been a bit lazy since I'm on my summer holidays..
Awesome man!
And thanks for your time!
 :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: iMav on Mon, 15 July 2013, 16:34:35
Count me as interested...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: gropingmantis on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:01:12
Will you be doing the drawings for all of the potential GH60 plates/styles (ISO HHKB is my favourite flavour at the moment) Would be really cool to get something like the 2TU HHMX (http://"http://22gongbang.tistory.com/93") with the clear acrylic sides and internal LEDs.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: battletux on Sat, 20 July 2013, 15:50:30
Just the thing I've been looking for for my 2 PCBs. Stupid Question but will the design allow us to use the plates from the GH60 GB or to go plateless?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 20 July 2013, 15:55:05
Just the thing I've been looking for for my 2 PCBs. Stupid Question but will the design allow us to use the plates from the GH60 GB or to go plateless?

pretty sure you need a special plate for the case
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 20 July 2013, 15:57:23
You will need a custom plate for any plate mount case I do.

I may do a PCB mount one that you won't need a custom plate for, but I doubt it.. it would need to be CNC'd.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: thoere on Sat, 27 July 2013, 20:52:36
Very interested in this case design. I need a case for my HHKB-style GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 31 July 2013, 08:35:56
Some news:

Alps-based TKL Keyboard Project (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44576.msg979927#msg979927)
GH60-Alps Keyboard Project (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41461.msg979934#msg979934)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: thoere on Mon, 26 August 2013, 18:39:56
Any updates? Just curious
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 26 August 2013, 19:20:38
Any updates? Just curious
Yeah. To put it simply ;
-I know more now than I did when I designed these cases.
-Design 3 isn't would be quite expensive, and it wouldn't be possible to have removable switch tops. Because of this I'm ditching design 3. However, something similar can be done by simply gluing threaded standoffs to a laser cut plate in order to get somthing very similar.
-Design 2.. same as design 3.. would be expensive to have the top piece machined, and removabl switch tops wouldn't be possible. The only realistic way to have it done would be to have the top plate laser cut, then have the countersinks added afterwards.
-Design 1 will be finalised soon.

I'll maybe come up with a few more designs too.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Nask on Tue, 27 August 2013, 04:52:21
Annnnnnd definitely in. :)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 27 August 2013, 08:59:56
I'll maybe come up with a few more designs too.
More?
Awesome man!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:46:14
Matt3o's design is incredible!

noob questions incoming...
After the GH60 group buy a lot of people are going to be receiving assembled keyboards with no cases only to figure out that they are stuck with a tray style case unless they desolder all the switches and use a different plate.

Would it be possible to create a layered case like Matt3o's that the plates from the gh60 group buy get sandwiched inside of?
It would need standoffs. The GB plates are very close to the size of the PCB so they cannot really be sandwiched.

Forgive me if I have missed this, but I haven't seen a direct answer in my reading of this thread. Will one of the designs be what domo is asking about here? A tray style case made with layers of acrylic that has standoff holes in the bottom layer? Something like the cases that takaki is currently doing for TKL sized boards? I was kinda hoping for something like this because I have plates and PCBs coming for the GH60. I was hoping to be able to build a simple clear acrylic case to show off the pretty internals but also be able to use the GH60 plates. I was gonna try to learn enough about CAD to draw up a simple design to take to a local cutter, but then I saw this thread and I thought just such an open source design would eventually be posted here. I see now though that it seems all of the designs in this thread seem to include an integral plate in the case design.

So, is this type of tray case going to be one of the designs produced in this open source project?

I really do like the designs I have seen here. You guys make some pretty designs. I was just also hoping for an option to drop in a plate and PCB combo from the GH60 group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:47:30
I am planning on making a universal case + plate for 60%

These are going to start out as layered designs, which could be used for aluminum/steel/acrylic cases and later we can combine layers and come up with machined cases similar to what  Photekq has been working on.

What I have in mind is the case with a plate would allow for PCBs from GH60/Poker/Poker II/Pure. We can have a variety of layouts like the GH60 plates by WFD. The case only option would allow you to fit the GH60 plates by WFD and also the Poker II plates.

I know we might not end up with a universal case, but we can with a universal design, where small tweaks like position of certain cutouts have to be changed.

What were are looking for thus are:
- PCB layouts
- Plate layouts
- Location of USB cable, usb connector of any sort
- Dipswitch positions
- Teensy controller button position
- Any other cutouts required

For the following keyboards:
- GH60 PCB and plates (WFD's)
- Poker PCB
- Poker II PCB and plate
- Pure PCB
- Pure Pro PCB and plate

I would do all this myself, except I have no 60% board, the GH60 PCB and Plate dimensions are available online, so I can handle that,

If members can club in and get the required data, I'll get atleast the layered case ready for the 60%, this will all be open source ofcourse.

Compatibility for universal design so far:

DesignPCBPlate
GH60DoneDone
PokerDoneN/A
Poker 2DonePending
PureDoneN/A
Pure ProDonePending
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:48:56
This thread seemed appropriate for what I am aiming to do, thus posted here and also created this thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.0

as I required these CAD resources myself and imagined how anyone else might as well.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pasph on Thu, 29 August 2013, 19:29:11
Why none want's to make a full size case? :(
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 29 August 2013, 19:42:20
Why none want's to make a full size case? :(

you have seen how expensive the tkl cases are.
imagine the price of a full size one.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 29 August 2013, 19:50:39
Why none want's to make a full size case? :(

Because there are way too many variations.

We can hoeever have a community open source design keyboard including the PCB, plate, everything.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: dante on Sun, 01 September 2013, 16:42:01
I wanted to show my interest in this.  I had dragged my sorry sad ass across snow, sand, and mud and I'm interested in building my own GH60.  Of course I have to also wait and be patient and show sad puppy eyes to some GH60 buyer who purchased one too many boards.

Anyway, most of the keyboards today are too heavy and I like to fidget (move around) my keyboard while I'm using it which is why I'm here - I'd like an acrylic case for a PCB only GH60.   My hopes and dreams is that it will be no heavier than a stock poker and not as bendy/buckling in the middle.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:04:44
How about using these rivets at the top and bottom: http://www.ebay.com/itm/50pcs-Flat-Head-Metric-Steel-Blind-Insert-Rivet-Nut-Rivnut-M3-/360614015609

And these grub screws in between: http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-M3-3mm-M3-20mm-Head-Hex-Socket-Set-Grub-Screws-Metric-Threaded-Cup-Point-/321003790711

This should give a pretty clean look, without those big nuts and bolts protruding. And on a laser cut case, around 1mm depth can be etched, so the rivet tops are flush with the acrylic.

What do you think guys?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: JPG on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:07:03
How do you screw them? The rivets don't seem to have anything to use a screwdriver on.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:16:55
How do you screw them? The rivets don't seem to have anything to use a screwdriver on.

Pressure, you push them in. To screw it tightly it would require you to first half screw a temp screw on one side and then once rivet is inserted on both sides, you can tighten the grub screw using an alan key.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:23:21
and these could be used based on the size as stand offs for current plates
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:27:37
Interested in those moz.. Problem with getting a truely tidy, cheap case is getting threaded holes somewhere. So.. those go in by pressure? You could literally attach them to a solid piece of acrylic? How about alu/steel? Are there alternatives for those materials that you're aware of?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:39:54
Interested in those moz.. Problem with getting a truely tidy, cheap case is getting threaded holes somewhere. So.. those go in by pressure? You could literally attach them to a solid piece of acrylic? How about alu/steel? Are there alternatives for those materials that you're aware of?

Ideal, a rivet is riveted using a rivet tool lik this: http://image.pushauction.com/ViewPicture.aspx?Key=8d43be89-3131-4df4-8646-3b1de9d7e2af_9d47ba49-e713-4c1c-8665-e7682aa73537

However I believe this could be a great workaround by just pushing the rivet in by pressure. This should be pretty tight, the second option would be to use a flanged nut, at the top and bottom., the hexagon shape of the nut can be cut in the acrylic.

I agree with you regarding the point abut a tidy and cheap look. I don't like acrylic being glued, if it can be avoided, I would avoid it (I know I have some projects where I am glueing acrylic but the dimensions there are much to small to allow bolting/screwing). With acrylic you can't rally tap it, because from my experience, threading in acrylic wears off real quick, opne/close the case a couple of time,s and the threading would be really damaged.

I am really not aware of anything for alu/steel, to be honest. Even with acrylic I have only a little bit of experience.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:45:35
oh oh oh i think i have one of those riveting tools somewhere (although mine is like 1x1x2metres, so not sure if it's suited)! Thanks for reminding me of these threaded rivets etc, it was something i was gonna look up and then forgot..

and yeah, hex nut was something i was thinking of too. would be easy to glue a few in.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pixel5 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 20:57:33
I don't have time to read through, would these cases have an integrated plate as the middle layer?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:01:19
I don't have time to read through, would these cases have an integrated plate as the middle layer?

Yes.


If someone could order those rivet nuts and grub screws or get them locally, and test, it would be awesome. Also flanged hex nuts
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:02:28
I don't have time to read through, would these cases have an integrated plate as the middle layer?

Yes.


If someone could order those rivet nuts and grub screws or get them locally, and test, it would be awesome. Also flanged hex nuts
i'll see if i have any cash leftover from tek-80. if so i'll get some along with some scrap acrylic. reckon you could have a hex nut acrylic piece laser cut?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pixel5 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:08:01
I don't have time to read through, would these cases have an integrated plate as the middle layer?

Yes.


If someone could order those rivet nuts and grub screws or get them locally, and test, it would be awesome. Also flanged hex nuts

If we can make this happen sooner than later, I'm in. I have a 60% project I want to do soon.

EDIT: I should add, price is a factor. I saw that there was a 60% acrylic case done a while back for $45. If we can do that or better, that would be awesome.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 21:15:56
-- Snip --

Created a thread for TKL here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007

i'll see if i have any cash leftover from tek-80. if so i'll get some along with some scrap acrylic. reckon you could have a hex nut acrylic piece laser cut?
I can do the hex nut just have to find some flanged hex nuts, plain old hex nut won't do.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pixel5 on Tue, 03 September 2013, 15:53:31
Whats a realistic time frame for this GB to happen? The GH60 GB just sold a ton and is in production. Those guys will want cases soon, I imagine.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 September 2013, 15:57:32
Whats a realistic time frame for this GB to happen? The GH60 GB just sold a ton and is in production. Those guys will want cases soon, I imagine.
This isn't a GB. This is a thread where a few people are throwing some case ideas around, the files will be released OS.. then it's up to everyone else if they want to run a GB or if people just want to get one made for themselves.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:36:14
I would like to see something like the duck poker or FMJ case that is printable via shapeways at a reasonable price.
maybe a pipe dream :(
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:43:31
I would like to see something like the duck poker or FMJ case that is printable via shapeways at a reasonable price.
maybe a pipe dream :(
Well.. I could replicate the duck poker quite closely in about 15 minutes, but I'm not sure I'd feel too happy doing that :/
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 September 2013, 21:05:16
Got some screws, nuts and bolts. Couldn't get flang nut or rivet as vendor wanted 100 moq.

i'll try again.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 17:42:22
So, here is my first attempt.

This is compatible with the GH60 PCB and also the plates.

For the case w/o the plate, only the plate layer needs to be changed.

On the case with integrated plate, it goes without saying that you can have any layout supported by the PCB.

For bolting, I would recommend using dome nuts at the bottom and flange nuts/rivet (Yet to decide) on the top sides, and grubs screws in between.

All layers should be 3mm acrylic.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 08 September 2013, 17:55:27
I was literally in the process of finishing my design but now that you've posted that I don't think there's much point. Your design is practically identical to the one that I'm doing.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 17:58:05
Hahha. I figured the Keepers of Faith have better things to do.

I think this will be it from me for the next week, as I have exams and I won't be able to give as much time, if any at all.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 08 September 2013, 17:59:53
Very nice!

So the total thickness of the case (with optional top layer) would be 18mm?  0.71 of an inch?  Not counting feet, of course.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 18:52:07
Very nice!

So the total thickness of the case (with optional top layer) would be 18mm?  0.71 of an inch?  Not counting feet, of course.

That is correct, you could go as low as 15mm with an acrylic case. I should also mention that the upper and lower feet are optional as well.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: whiskytango on Sun, 08 September 2013, 20:53:28
Awesome MOZ. Do have a particular length of standoff you would recommend if you are not using the integrated plate?

It looks really good man. This is exactly what I was looking for to pop up in this thread.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Sun, 08 September 2013, 21:20:08
Hahha. I figured the Keepers of Faith have better things to do.

I think this will be it from me for the next week, as I have exams and I won't be able to give as much time, if any at all.
/
Moz, sorry for asking that but let's go: your design is open source? Can we publish your files?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 00:36:52
The thread title does say open source, no? Thus it is open source. However I am looking to make it compatible with Poker, Poker 2 and Pure as well.

For the motherboard standoffs, I would recommend 5.5mm, I'll post a graphic of how I came to this number.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 00:38:59
Snip, double post.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agor on Mon, 09 September 2013, 04:52:49
Really nice!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 10:52:56
Attached design on white BG for anyone having problem viewing the image.

One recommendation I require is, for the PCB and plate cutouts, how much allowance should I have? At the moment I have 1.5-2mm, I think this is too much, and feel that for the plate I should have it .2mm smaller than the plate dimensions, as laser cut acrylic seem to have a very high tolerance, because the acrylic is literally melted at the laser points. For the PCB layer I will leave it as it is.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:26:59
How much would this cost to be produced?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:50:29
How much would this cost to be produced?

No idea currently, but ballpark figure around $30 maybe, I can't be too sure.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pixel5 on Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:14:13
How much would this cost to be produced?

No idea currently, but ballpark figure around $30 maybe, I can't be too sure.

Shoot, if you can do this for $30 (in mass/group buy I assume?) I'm very much in. That's $36 shipped to most places.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:14:46
Since it's open source, we can take these designs anywhere we can to be produced right?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:18:50
Yeah, take it to any laser cutter, or if you want you can combine the bottom 4 layers and then get that 3d printed/Machined and have the top machined in alu.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:27:54
How much would this cost to be produced?

No idea currently, but ballpark figure around $30 maybe, I can't be too sure.

Shoot, if you can do this for $30 (in mass/group buy I assume?) I'm very much in. That's $36 shipped to most places.

Wouldn't there be a possibility of a lowered price, if it was run a GB (isn't that the meaning of a GB  :)))?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:29:40
Again, my figure was ballpark, not sure how much it would be if I got one made or 100 made.

The figure was based purely on the cost of acrylic and estimated time on the machine and the hourly rate.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pixel5 on Mon, 09 September 2013, 16:01:23
Again, my figure was ballpark, not sure how much it would be if I got one made or 100 made.

The figure was based purely on the cost of acrylic and estimated time on the machine and the hourly rate.

I contacted a local engraving company to see how much it'd cost me to have them etch a design on a small piece of acrylic... I would make the design myself... literally all they do is set it in the machine and press go. $25 minimum, up to $50 they said. No frickin way. I live in a small town without much competition, but still thats ridiculous. I'd have expected $5-7 or less, considering it would take about 2 minutes.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 09 September 2013, 16:04:23
Oh, yes, if we ever do this, custom engraving would obviously be an option, and not much expensive either, around $5.

BTW, let's not get ahead of ourselves, the main concern right now is perfecting the design, and making it compatible with the Poker/Pure.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 12 September 2013, 17:01:59
The thread title does say open source, no? Thus it is open source. However I am looking to make it compatible with Poker, Poker 2 and Pure as well.
Yes, my thread does say it mona!
I only read Photekq comment about your design - that's why I asked. I saw your thread only after asking it.

So, how do you pretend to prototype your design?
I were planning to help Photekq with the prototype and I think I can do the same with you ...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 12 September 2013, 21:32:07
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:44:23
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

I can get you exact measurements for the Pure if needed.   :thumb:  Super interested in this.

Also, Moz, can you pm or email me the cad files?  Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:51:52
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

I can get you exact measurements for the Pure if needed.   :thumb:  Super interested in this.

Also, Moz, can you pm or email me the cad files?  Thanks.

That would be awesome!

Here is the CAD file: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44382.msg1034343#msg1034343

I am yet to finalise it (Make plate cutout smaller, make USB cutout smaller)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:03:43
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

I can get you exact measurements for the Pure if needed.   :thumb:  Super interested in this.

Also, Moz, can you pm or email me the cad files?  Thanks.

That would be awesome!

Here is the CAD file: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44382.msg1034343#msg1034343

I am yet to finalise it (Make plate cutout smaller, make USB cutout smaller)

Perfect.  I missed it there at the bottom.  I will get some measurements over the weekend for you. 
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:25:49
Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 17 September 2013, 01:57:27
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.
Yes, I'm waiting one Komar's prototype too.
He said he would send one to me in order to make this prototype (I don't know if he does remember anyway)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 18 September 2013, 17:01:31
I have got dimensions for the Poker/Pure, so I will be able to add support for them later tomorrow, along with some corrections regarding the position of the usb cutout, having the usb cutout on more layers, simpler stab cutout so that acrylic doesn't flex due to thin tabs in the stabs cutout. Also perfect fit cutouts for plates.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:05:25
Redid the design from scratch to better match dimensions, and have a perfect fit with the Poker/Pure PCB. Also used 8 degrees as the tilting angle so different number of feets. And made corrections as mentioned above.

Just a coupe of minor adjustments needed to add complete support for Poker/Pure.

Can someone with Poker II/Pure Pro help with the plate dimensions on those? Please.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Defying on Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:19:18
Redid the design from scratch to better match dimensions, and have a perfect fit with the Poker/Pure PCB. Also used 8 degrees as the tilting angle so different number of feets. And made corrections as mentioned above.

Just a coupe of minor adjustments needed to add complete support for Poker/Pure.

Can someone with Poker II/Pure Pro help with the plate dimensions on those? Please.
Just measured my Poker II's plate.

287mm x 95mm

THIS MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, I just grabbed these quickly. Someone else should verify.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:21:01
I need more stuff if possible, some photos would be good.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Defying on Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:26:24
I need more stuff if possible, some photos would be good.
I'll try to get some pictures soon.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 28 September 2013, 19:38:30
So we all know that regack has been making great progress on the GHpad, now it would be a shame if there were no proper place to case it. Thus we have this:

[attachimg=1]

Top one is with a space between the GH60/60% and the other below has no space between the top sub-boards.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 01 October 2013, 15:37:32
Solved the bolting dilemma, I would most likely use my solution that I used for the TKL case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007.msg1061407#msg1061407
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:25:31
This post is relevant here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007.msg1068449#msg1068449

I got one case cut for Badwrench, let's see how it fits the Pure.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 07 October 2013, 14:31:57
This post is relevant here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007.msg1068449#msg1068449

I got one case cut for Badwrench, let's see how it fits the Pure.

 ;D

Looking forward to trying this out. 
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 13:32:43
Someone please, please get my measurements for the Poker II and Pure Pro plate.

I am done with the PCB mounted ones, just made a case and will have those verified in a week or two.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tempiz on Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:38:12
Sent this in for a quota from pololu, to get each plate layer cut. 90 dollars to have it cut, is this all correct? I will be getting the Bottom, middle, and top layers cut. Plus the mounting plate and maybe the feet. Is this correct?
(http://i.imgur.com/qoGaft6.png)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:54:35
Looks right, although if you can wait, I have a guinea pig who should get their case in a week, so I can make any necessary changes.

I would recommend you wait. 
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tempiz on Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:58:15
Looks right, although if you can wait, I have a guinea pig who should get their case in a week, so I can make any necessary changes.

I would recommend you wait.

Sounds good! Im working on making my first direct wired keyboard. I am probably going to gather materials over the coarse of the next two months or so anyway, wait for good group buys to come out with keycaps and better priced switches.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:09:03
There will be one for cases soon too ;)
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Defying on Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:19:05
There will be one for cases soon too ;)
MOZ... please.. I've already spent too much money on keyboards this month.  :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:27:56
Sad thing is it will be a flash GB sicne I have exams starting mid next month, so it will be only till end of this month.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: pasph on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:09:11
waiting...
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tempiz on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:30:01
Is this GH coming up for this case? Or another one?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:34:30
Is this GH coming up for this case? Or another one?

I don't understand what you mean? I think you mean GB? If yes, then it is for this case, TKL and Ergodox Case.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Tempiz on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:38:55
Shhhh, You didn't see anything!

In all seriousness, Yeah, I miss typed GB and didn't even notice it! Awesome that is coming quite soon, saves me time.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: debt4lyfe on Mon, 21 October 2013, 13:37:07
just replying to note interest

a question, though: if i wanted to have extra hardware inside the case, would accommodating it be as simple as adding an extra "rim" layer or two? i am thinking ghetto bluetooth mod with the handheldsci adapter stuffed under the keyboard pcb: http://handheldsci.com/kb
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 21 October 2013, 15:49:38
Yeah, it should be as simple as that.

You could also then drill some holes into the base layer, if you want to mount the extra hardware.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: debt4lyfe on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:17:02
Is that really feasible? I've heard drilling acrylic can lead to stress/heat fractures. I might just stick with glue or something.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:38:15
Very much, acrylic can be drilled very easily, just got to know how.

Use the bits used for wood, apply moderate pressure, not too fast and not too slow.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:52:30
Ok, first prototype is here.  Build quality is great (other than the admitted missed etching on some of the holes), and overall, very good case.  I went with a smoked and green transparent case.  Top sent to me was actually matte black and gives it a nice touch. 

Also, there were 2 types of mounting holes provided so that I could give some feedback.  The first was the etched hole to allow a flat head screw to be countersunk and be flush.  Where the etching lined up (on the feet mount), the process works perfectly.  The etching leaves a little bit of material in the countersink, but once cleaned out, fits perfectly.  I believe that if you wanted counter sunk, a drill bit would still be the best option here.  I have a countersink drill bit with a pilot and will be giving this a run on the off centered etchings. 

Center etching on left, off center on the right:
[attach=1]

With screw tighten in place.  Still a little higher than flush (also in this photo, you can see how the interior plates/pieces are cut to allow the brass riser to be held in place):
[attach=2]          [attach=3]

The other option was an oversized hole that is just a little smaller than the diameter of the flat head screw.  There is not much material being grabbed by the screw head, but considering that this is a no load area and that it is still just a 60% case, I foresee no issues here.  I actually prefer this method as it allows a little more wiggle room to make sure the case is nice a straight before tightening everything down.  Also, the flat heads are much more flush.

[attach=4]           [attach=5]

One item to note is that the mounting of the pcb is still in the works.  The bottom panel was drilled to the mounting points for my Pure, but the 3mm screws were too large to use with the risers (also, at 8mm height, were a little too tall).  I have some m2x5mm risers on order and will report back how they work out.  In addition, 2 of the mounting holes were just a hair off (I am remeasuring my pcb today).  Most likely error on my part  :blank:

Here is the setup assembled.  The acorn nut on the foot was just done for a quickie assembly.  The foot is actually the disks with the flush flat head pictured above. 

[attach=6]            [attach=7]

This is how it looks with my pcb in there (mocked up with cardboard to get it to 5mm). 
Note that I didn't do a very good job lining up the layers for these pics.  I actually sits perfectly flush as seen in the pics above. 

[attach=8]            [attach=9]
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: JPG on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:03:32
Do you have more pictures of the green acrylic? I am very interested in it and would like to see it if possible!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:13:28
Do you have more pictures of the green acrylic? I am very interested in it and would like to see it if possible!

Sure, just took this for you:
[attach=1]
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:25:33
That looks really good.  Are those 2mm sheets?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:27:49
That looks really good.  Are those 2mm sheets?

The smoked grey is 2.25mm and the green is 2.75mm. 
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:33:35
Thanks for posting these lovely pics.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:41:00
Awesome pics!
Great job Moz, really cool design.

Please, I wanna cut this drawing but I'm wondering at here if we do really need all these 5 layers for the bottom part - I would love to get it as thinner as possible ...

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: JPG on Mon, 28 October 2013, 14:15:56
Do you have more pictures of the green acrylic? I am very interested in it and would like to see it if possible!

Sure, just took this for you:
(Attachment Link)

Hum, thx for the pics! Still hard to tell what it would look with green as top and bottom layer.

And smoke for middle layer or white? Decisions!

At least there's still time to get decided!
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: swill on Mon, 28 October 2013, 14:21:06
Very much, acrylic can be drilled very easily, just got to know how.

Use the bits used for wood, apply moderate pressure, not too fast and not too slow.

He should tape both sides too and drill through the tape, no?
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 28 October 2013, 15:20:10
Very much, acrylic can be drilled very easily, just got to know how.

Use the bits used for wood, apply moderate pressure, not too fast and not too slow.

He should tape both sides too and drill through the tape, no?

Yup, this exactly. 
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: debt4lyfe on Wed, 30 October 2013, 14:59:33
Kdash mentioned in the gh60 thread that this case isn't (yet) poker compatible? Is this correct and are changes planned?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1095900#msg1095900
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:10:57
I think that would be the because kdash used an older revision, once I get some time, I will upload the latest revision.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Kdash on Wed, 30 October 2013, 20:49:51
I think that would be the because kdash used an older revision, once I get some time, I will upload the latest revision.
Yes, MOZ.
I download the 60per.dwg file (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44382.msg1034343#msg1034343) and made one on my own. it fits GH60 PCB very well.
and Poker II PCB with plate can't fits well, because of the poker II plate's size is much bigger than the PCB's.
I think it fits all the PCB without plate, like poker I and pure.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: vorn on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:25:45
(Attachment Link)             (Attachment Link)

How amazing would this case be for the Cherry Replica Set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50292.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50292.0))!!!
With "white, orange, orange, orange, white" layers.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50292.0;attach=41718;image)

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: dgreekstallion on Tue, 05 November 2013, 21:09:36
Make it a case for my Model F-122 and we have a deal... ;)

Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: debt4lyfe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 19:52:24
so Sprit's acrylic case group buy has started.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50579.0

Can you describe the pros/cons of this case in comparison? Any reason I shouldn't just buy that one now? I suppose it might be easier to customize your case for my previously mentioned modding purposes but I don't see why I couldn't use either one.

On yours, I could create more space by adding layers, but on sprit's, i could probably stack washers or something between the layers at the screw holes.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 November 2013, 23:53:54
I'm not going to get into comparisons, that case does look higher quality and thus you do pay more, it looks great.

I don't know about it's design so I can't comment on whether it is customizable or not.
Title: Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
Post by: Alpsie on Wed, 25 February 2015, 14:10:01
Oh this is a really old thread.
I hope it is alright that i bring it back up the list.

MOZ, from reading the thread, it did not seem that you have updated the cad to be fully compatible with poker 2. Is it still in the works ?