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Offline coffeeshopcoder

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 02 September 2019, 21:39:09 »
Nice. In.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 03 September 2019, 13:22:16 »
Even for a non-profit run? Didn't they specify in the past that their IP is free to use for all hobbyists and content creators that just want to make **** for the audience? How would this not apply? Riot is really ****ing up on this one.

BTW, I would kill for region-specific keysets. Like a Freljord, Ionian or Piltover set. *hint hint*

Yeah I'm really sad about it :( My current profile pic is one of the novelties I wanted to use but no big, just went with a different aesthetic. Would rather have a cool CW than risk the Riot legal hammer.

HMMM those are really good ideas 👀

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 04 September 2019, 13:13:53 »
Colors on the Renders looks slightly or it's just my eyes?

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 04 September 2019, 18:19:45 »
Colors on the Renders looks slightly or it's just my eyes?

Slightly, what?

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 05 September 2019, 14:30:15 »
Colors on the Renders looks slightly or it's just my eyes?

Slightly, what?

They're just very slightly!!

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 06 September 2019, 02:23:19 »
Might want to clarify what rows everything will be, hard to tell where the novelties can fit.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 07 September 2019, 14:52:49 »
Might want to clarify what rows everything will be, hard to tell where the novelties can fit.

Planning on doing that when I get renders done of the kits, everything will be laid out much more explicitly when things get more final :D

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 03:43:48 »
I love you for making Ergo support port. And I support using blanks. Olive juice.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 12:08:36 »
Kit Updates!

40s/Ortho has been updated with: R3 1.5u backspace, R1-1 1.75u enter, 1u fn, 1.5u shift.


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International


Colevrak


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Offline Surefoot

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 12:13:42 »
You could regroup UK and Intl kits, we ISO users wont mind and it will help reach the MOQ :)

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 12:18:01 »
You could regroup UK and Intl kits, we ISO users wont mind and it will help reach the MOQ :)
While I wouldn't mind this so much, I have seen other ISO users of the mindset of "why should I buy a whole kit when I just need 4 keys". Having a separate UK kit allows those people to buy a smaller "basic ISO" kit, and may actually increase sales.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 12:31:26 »
You could regroup UK and Intl kits, we ISO users wont mind and it will help reach the MOQ :)

I've definitely considered this and am leaning on the side of keeping those two separate to support more flexibility with just getting UK. MOQ requirements are not looking too terrible but it's something on my mind. Good to know that there are ISO users out there who don't mind supporting each other!

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 14:02:57 »
Bless you for coleverak, daddy

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 16:42:00 »
Thank you for adding a Colevrak kit!  This kit could be called Colevrak+ or Typist since it covers more that just Colemak and Dvorak: DH & DHm variations of Colemak; Workman, Norman, Carpalx QGMLWY, and QWPR.  Perhaps more.

Adding an R3 non-homing U would give every supported layout the option to run without homing keys.  Adding an R4 ' " keycap would help anyone using Programmer's Dvorak.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but there are two typos in the kit render.



Regarding the Numpad kit, is 5 a homing key?
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Offline Tefrem34

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 19:02:36 »
The renders look fantastic!

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 19:49:07 »
Colour gradient is well and truly amazing but it's not for me because of the LoL references. Would be a insta-cop with standard icon or text mods.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:24:47 »
Thank you for adding a Colevrak kit!  This kit could be called Colevrak+ or Typist since it covers more that just Colemak and Dvorak: DH & DHm variations of Colemak; Workman, Norman, Carpalx QGMLWY, and QWPR.  Perhaps more.

Adding an R3 non-homing U would give every supported layout the option to run without homing keys.  Adding an R4 ' " keycap would help anyone using Programmer's Dvorak.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but there are two typos in the kit render.

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Regarding the Numpad kit, is 5 a homing key?
I've really been digging the recent bump in frequency for QGMLWY. Might consider the switch over from Colemak if the trend persists

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 09 September 2019, 14:20:34 »
Thank you for adding a Colevrak kit!  This kit could be called Colevrak+ or Typist since it covers more that just Colemak and Dvorak: DH & DHm variations of Colemak; Workman, Norman, Carpalx QGMLWY, and QWPR.  Perhaps more.

Adding an R3 non-homing U would give every supported layout the option to run without homing keys.  Adding an R4 ' " keycap would help anyone using Programmer's Dvorak.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but there are two typos in the kit render.

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Regarding the Numpad kit, is 5 a homing key?

Oh no, thanks so much for pointing out the typos! I really appreciate your feedback and will make some changes right away :)

Also, the 5 is a homing key! When I get actual renders done I will be much better about labeling rows and such xD
I just didn't know if KAT was homing/dished before I made those mock up kits so I used the same flatlay design for Bliss and SA is dished

Edit: Colevrak and numpad kits have been updated!
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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 09 September 2019, 19:15:09 »
Thank you for adding a Colevrak kit!  This kit could be called Colevrak+ or Typist since it covers more that just Colemak and Dvorak: DH & DHm variations of Colemak; Workman, Norman, Carpalx QGMLWY, and QWPR.  Perhaps more.

Adding an R3 non-homing U would give every supported layout the option to run without homing keys.  Adding an R4 ' " keycap would help anyone using Programmer's Dvorak.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but there are two typos in the kit render.

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Regarding the Numpad kit, is 5 a homing key?

Oh no, thanks so much for pointing out the typos! I really appreciate your feedback and will make some changes right away :)

Also, the 5 is a homing key! When I get actual renders done I will be much better about labeling rows and such xD
I just didn't know if KAT was homing/dished before I made those mock up kits so I used the same flatlay design for Bliss and SA is dished

Edit: Colevrak and numpad kits have been updated!

You're welcome, glad it was helpful.  And thanks for adding those two keycaps to the Colevrak+ kit!

Offline pheonix991

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 13 September 2019, 19:18:09 »
Oh snap... you did colemak support.  You're the best!!!!

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | kit updates!
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 10:35:24 »
Oh snap... you did colemak support.  You're the best!!!!

glad you like!!

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 10:36:45 »
Realized I forgot to pop a deskmat update here so...


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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 10:42:18 »
Nice!! Going to have to pick up the desk mat with the keyset. On a side note, I'm I the only one who's been buying more deskmats then they could ever use? I've bought several desk mats in the last several months even for keysets that I didn't buy. I have about 4 keysets coming and about 15 desk mats  ^-^. I think I have a problem  :)

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 14:34:21 »
Nice!! Going to have to pick up the desk mat with the keyset. On a side note, I'm I the only one who's been buying more deskmats then they could ever use? I've bought several desk mats in the last several months even for keysets that I didn't buy. I have about 4 keysets coming and about 15 desk mats  ^-^. I think I have a problem  :)
More Deskmats than keysets? Oh yes, I think you do that’s a whole lot of deskmats.
Gotta be hard to put each of them in use.


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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 16:46:39 »
Nice!! Going to have to pick up the desk mat with the keyset. On a side note, I'm I the only one who's been buying more deskmats then they could ever use? I've bought several desk mats in the last several months even for keysets that I didn't buy. I have about 4 keysets coming and about 15 desk mats  ^-^. I think I have a problem  :)

omg wait lol 15 DESKMATS that's crazy!! I only have 2 that aren't even custom deskmats from keysets xD

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 02:39:55 »
One deskmat for each day of the week, and we have to cover home and office :)

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 02:47:13 »
Skipping this because of unnecessary bundling of ortho and 40s.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 08:18:33 »
Very intriguing set! Very much interested even though I'm not familiar with KAT profile at all.

The set does not seem to allow Home (r4)- PgUp (r3)- PgDn (r2) - End (r1) layout that's pretty common for 65% boards because it seems to be missing a r4 End key. Did I miss something?

BTW, thank you for decoupling Numpad kit from the base!
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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 16:36:08 »
Very intriguing set! Very much interested even though I'm not familiar with KAT profile at all.

The set does not seem to allow Home (r4)- PgUp (r3)- PgDn (r2) - End (r1) layout that's pretty common for 65% boards because it seems to be missing a r4 End key. Did I miss something?

BTW, thank you for decoupling Numpad kit from the base!

It does, I have really confusing flatlays which I will be updating soon with proper row labeling (altho with KAT the row layout is actually backwards like ePBT)

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 16:38:28 »
Skipping this because of unnecessary bundling of ortho and 40s.

sorry you feel that way, I'm still considering the feedback for splitting both 60-TKL and 40s/Ortho but depending on the MOQs may also keep them combined. ultimately would rather support more layouts than risk MOQs not hitting.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 19:49:14 »
Very intriguing set! Very much interested even though I'm not familiar with KAT profile at all.

The set does not seem to allow Home (r4)- PgUp (r3)- PgDn (r2) - End (r1) layout that's pretty common for 65% boards because it seems to be missing a r4 End key. Did I miss something?

BTW, thank you for decoupling Numpad kit from the base!

It does, I have really confusing flatlays which I will be updating soon with proper row labeling (altho with KAT the row layout is actually backwards like ePBT)

Cherry keycaps also have unusual row names, but everyone uses the standard R1-R4 (well, some recent sets have been R0-R5).  This table is from Deskthority:


I recommend using standard row labeling on the kit flatlays.  Showing KAT row labels in addition to standard labels might be interesting, but would probably cause some confusion.



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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 18 September 2019, 04:59:25 »
Is there a render with a white case? Think it would be cool to see due to kindreds fur being white.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 18 September 2019, 10:54:58 »
Is there a render with a white case? Think it would be cool to see due to kindreds fur being white.

Since you asked so nicely ;)



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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #83 on: Wed, 18 September 2019, 11:13:50 »
Is there a render with a white case? Think it would be cool to see due to kindreds fur being white.

Since you asked so nicely ;)

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I’m in.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #84 on: Wed, 18 September 2019, 16:50:20 »
Is there a render with a white case? Think it would be cool to see due to kindreds fur being white.

Since you asked so nicely ;)

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Didn't expect one that fast haha, thanks! :)

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 19 September 2019, 07:04:25 »
Damn, this set looks nice on e-white.
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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | goodies announced!
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:40:50 »
I love the colours on this a lot but I just can't get over the weird font on the mods. Is that a font used in the game or something?

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:27:36 »
Kit Updates!

New Kits

60 - TKL Text Mods


40s/Ortho Text Mods

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:36:41 »
Kit Updates!

New Kits

60 - TKL Text Mods
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40s/Ortho Text Mods
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Fantastic update! I am in for a tkl one.

Is there a chance you could add a r4 1.25u shift key to the TKL variant? I believe a decent number of 65/75% layouts use it.
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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #89 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:51:06 »
Stoked to see alternative mods!

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #90 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 20:26:24 »
Kit Updates!

New Kits

60 - TKL Text Mods
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40s/Ortho Text Mods
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Now that you offer text mods, does that mean you will be adding text keys to the Numpad Kit?

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #91 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 00:17:51 »
Ohhh crap, after I said something about the mods, the text mods appeared! Now I have to seriously consider buying this set...... :O

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #92 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 06:28:49 »
Very nice set !
But how about a ISO-FR kit ?

KAT Milkshake : biip led the way and sold more than 50 :thumb:
KAT Oasis : JSaintS made one :thumb:
KAT Atlantis : Rensuya is working on one  :thumb:

It would be great if you continued this collective effort. As ISO-FR users, with mold moq issues, dye sub is all that is left for us.

Please think about ISO users, add a split left shift to your "alice style" keyboards

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:58:50 »
Ohhh crap, after I said something about the mods, the text mods appeared! Now I have to seriously consider buying this set...... :O

The other "weird font" mods you were talking about are custom mods I designed, not related to the game at all.

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 15:00:04 »
Fantastic update! I am in for a tkl one.

Is there a chance you could add a r4 1.25u shift key to the TKL variant? I believe a decent number of 65/75% layouts use it.

I'm not sure what you mean by an R4 shift? I'm going by the Keyreative way of labeling rows so do you mean R1? And which layouts use 1.25u shift?

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 15:02:46 »
Very nice set !
But how about a ISO-FR kit ?

KAT Milkshake : biip led the way and sold more than 50 :thumb:
KAT Oasis : JSaintS made one :thumb:
KAT Atlantis : Rensuya is working on one  :thumb:

It would be great if you continued this collective effort. As ISO-FR users, with mold moq issues, dye sub is all that is left for us.

After discussing with Upas about this, I'm going to be adding an ISO-FR kit. For Milkshake is it the baguette kit?

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #96 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 15:05:00 »
Now that you offer text mods, does that mean you will be adding text keys to the Numpad Kit?

I was learning towards not adding text mods to side kits since my original vision was to use icons. However I think I will be adding them in, I'm just debating the best way to add text mods to side kits since it'll blow up the numpad kit but not so much ISO/International/Colevrak so I'll update once I've decided :)

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #97 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 15:15:39 »
Very nice set !
But how about a ISO-FR kit ?

KAT Milkshake : biip led the way and sold more than 50 :thumb:
KAT Oasis : JSaintS made one :thumb:
KAT Atlantis : Rensuya is working on one  :thumb:

It would be great if you continued this collective effort. As ISO-FR users, with mold moq issues, dye sub is all that is left for us.

After discussing with Upas about this, I'm going to be adding an ISO-FR kit. For Milkshake is it the baguette kit?

Thanks !  :thumb:
Yes it's the baguette kit.
You can count me in !
Please think about ISO users, add a split left shift to your "alice style" keyboards

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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | new renders!
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Re: [IC] KAT Eternal | text mods added
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:18:04 »
Thanks for adding the text mod kit. Icon mods confuse the hell out of me so it's highly appreciated.

One thing though - I think the mod kit would benefit from a single 1U Ctrl key. Both of my 75% boards have 3 1U keys on the right of space bar and it's often used as Alt,Fn,Ctrl. It can be reprogrammed, of course, but it's a common layout worth suggesting.