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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | GB Ends Today (Dec 9)
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 10:54:58 »
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 13:19:30 »
Final without extras

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 09:57:48 »
Final with extras


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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 24 December 2020, 02:25:34 »
Wow! Nice!!!

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 20:09:06 »
Round 2 of KAT Napoleonic color samples came in.

- White - approved in round 1
- Yellow - approved in round 2
- Others - the samples are still too bright and desaturated, though saturation has improved somewhat. The extent of this difference varies, but I especially need a better green.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED | 08 March Progress Update
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 10:43:04 »
Update 08 March 2021

1) Keyreative Invoices for manufacturing the keycaps have been sent to all vendors.  Another round of invoices will go out at shipping time.

2) I have begun converting the customer-facing kit diagrams into SVG usable by Keyreative.  I have converted one kit so far and am waiting for the OK from ZF before I convert the rest.

3) Round 3 of color-matching complete.  Samples have been approved for four of the five colors; only the green remains. 
Note that some slight fading of ink color is to be expected near the base edges of the keys and may be noticeable particularly on the blue, green, and red keycaps.  This is a manufacturer limitation that I have no control over.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 13:16:30 »
I still can't get over how fantastic the different options are on this set. Most underrated set of last year. Can't wait for this to arrive.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 29 March 2021, 17:16:18 »
Napoleon faces an uphill battle against the army of the “cool kids.” Come to the aid of the empire! Vote via @mech.madness ‘s story on Instagram!

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 21 April 2021, 00:30:21 »
Hey. Did you plan to to another GB?

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 21 April 2021, 06:51:10 »
Hey. Did you plan to to another GB?

Of this specific set? Nothing planned yet. But I’m currently running a different GB:
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 24 May 2021, 09:08:21 »
As shared in my Discord, I received Round 4 of the color-matching.  The only color remaining was the green, and they did an excellent job this time.

All colors for the set are now approved.

I am in the midst of the painstaking process of converting all my key legends to a template the factory can use, and that is about 40% complete so far.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 15:34:32 »
Hello, any update on fabrication / delivery?
Thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 15:36:41 »
According to the Discord updates, the queue is moving veery slowly and the caps should be expected for Feb-22. That being said, color matching has been confirmed.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 17:43:45 »
Wow, from May all the way until October no one asked how it was going. Either everyone is in discord or are used to the two year long process by now.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 04 November 2021, 06:41:42 »
Latest news:

Last I heard from ZFrontier & Keyreative, we’re going into production in December in all likelihood. Preorders are still available at MK Ultra if you’d prefer not to fight over extras.

One bit of cruel irony, for those of us waiting on other KAT sets, is that we’re going to be produced earlier than several KAT sets that ran prior to Napoleonic, since KAT Nap is still dyesub.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 16:05:29 »
Latest news:

Last I heard from ZFrontier & Keyreative, we’re going into production in December in all likelihood. Preorders are still available at MK Ultra if you’d prefer not to fight over extras.

One bit of cruel irony, for those of us waiting on other KAT sets, is that we’re going to be produced earlier than several KAT sets that ran prior to Napoleonic, since KAT Nap is still dyesub.

Don't jinx it  ;D :cool:

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 08 December 2021, 06:11:36 »
Update from ZFrontier / Keyreative (08 Dec 2021)
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KAT Iron is currently in production and they should finish production this month. Ideally production [for KAT Napoleonic] would begin in Dec, but I assume it would be safer to say Jan

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 05 January 2022, 14:20:04 »
So, update from Keyreative (that came in the form of a public blog post).  The estimate that I received last month must have been bogus.  Napoleonic is behind a few more sets in the queue, and it's not due to start production until March.

I'm frustrated; you're probably frustrated too.  It will be a long haul, but this set will happen.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 06 January 2022, 14:11:15 »
So, update from Keyreative (that came in the form of a public blog post).  The estimate that I received last month must have been bogus.  Napoleonic is behind a few more sets in the queue, and it's not due to start production until March.

I'm frustrated; you're probably frustrated too.  It will be a long haul, but this set will happen.



Keyreative's post - https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/keyreative-keyset-progress-report

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 03 February 2022, 11:02:58 »
I have no updates to share at this time.  The only thing is that I'm having to redo the box art, as Keyreative changed the banderole template.

I'll check back in with ZFrontier by the end of the month, and hopefully I'll have something more to share in March.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 07 March 2022, 06:16:13 »
March update for Napoleonic: the two dyesub KAT sets currently in production are taking longer than anticipated, so I wouldn’t hold your breath for Napoleonic to enter production any time soon.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 12 March 2022, 05:14:26 »
Wonderful classy set.
Couldn't resist and pre-ordered two full sets with extras: one in French Indigo and one in Russian Green.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 01 April 2022, 13:04:10 »
April update for KAT Napoleonic
- Yeah, that Keyreative calendar from earlier in the year was far too optimistic.
- KAT Napoleonic, to my knowledge, has not started production.
- I have gotten a promise from ZFrontier that I’ll receive a copy of every kit to inspect before they go out to customers.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 16 April 2022, 19:42:35 »
April update for KAT Napoleonic
- Yeah, that Keyreative calendar from earlier in the year was far too optimistic.
- KAT Napoleonic, to my knowledge, has not started production.
- I have gotten a promise from ZFrontier that I’ll receive a copy of every kit to inspect before they go out to customers.
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I noticed from the pictures that the ANSI Alphas kit "Default US English - Jefferson" and "US Int'l & Netherlands - Waterloo" kit have exactly the same keys, is that right?
I need an ANSI US layout but ordered "US Int'l & Netherlands - Waterloo" because I like the gold sublegends and it looks like ANSI US in your pictures.
I don't want true Netherlands layout like where the @ comes in place of the ~ and a few other keys in different places.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 16 April 2022, 19:50:52 »
April update for KAT Napoleonic
- Yeah, that Keyreative calendar from earlier in the year was far too optimistic.
- KAT Napoleonic, to my knowledge, has not started production.
- I have gotten a promise from ZFrontier that I’ll receive a copy of every kit to inspect before they go out to customers.
@NoPunIn10Did

I noticed from the pictures that the ANSI Alphas kit "Default US English - Jefferson" and "US Int'l & Netherlands - Waterloo" kit have exactly the same keys, is that right?
I need an ANSI US layout but ordered "US Int'l & Netherlands - Waterloo" because I like the gold sublegends and it looks like ANSI US in your pictures.
I don't want true Netherlands layout like where the @ comes in place of the ~ and a few other keys in different places.

US International was adopted by the Netherlands as its official language layout, replacing the earlier layout (that was more similar to German QWERTZ and such).

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #75 on: Sat, 16 April 2022, 20:05:25 »
Ok, thanks!
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 02 May 2022, 09:44:21 »
May Update:

I've been trying to get in touch with ZFrontier or Keyreative for an update as to production schedules and such, and I've gotten no communication back since late March.  Very irritating, but "it is how it is," as they say.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 15:02:28 »
Factory samples have been received, and I have several notes on them that I've written up on my homepage.

https://nopunin10did.com/2022/05/25/kat-napoleonic-factory-samples-may-2022/

Overall I'm pleased in the direction the process is going now.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 06 July 2022, 07:38:38 »
June / July update:

I got a second round of samples in the mail that included the Cherokee alphas and the US International alphas.

They appear to have corrected the legend alignment issues that I was worried about from their last samples.  I have provided feedback to them on this set of samples but haven't heard anything further.


Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 06 July 2022, 09:29:07 »
June / July update:

I got a second round of samples in the mail that included the Cherokee alphas and the US International alphas.

They appear to have corrected the legend alignment issues that I was worried about from their last samples.  I have provided feedback to them on this set of samples but haven't heard anything further.

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Thanks for the update and your attention to detail!

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 06 July 2022, 09:32:48 »
I got me a full Irish Green set with extras and the same for French Indigo. Can't wait to get my hands on this gorgeous set!

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #81 on: Mon, 01 August 2022, 10:07:08 »
KAT Napoleonic August Update
01 Aug 2022
Keyreative sent me a set of clarification requests this morning for some of the alpha legends that might not have printed properly in their current form (specifically, legends using "broken bar" characters ¦ as opposed to solid pipes |).  I have already made the necessary updates to the files impacted and uploaded them for Keyreative to use.

The current plan, as I understand it, is to make samples of each and every kit in the set and send me high-resolution photographs of them.  I have requested several kits to also be sent to me in person for personal inspection; I will let you know as these arrive.

I have faith that Keyreative are indeed working on the set, as the questions that they are asking me most recently show that they are paying attention to details and preparing to do actual printing.  However, the pace is *very* slow.  Based on this experience, I cannot give an updated ETA for the set, but I am at least encouraged that progress is being made.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 07 September 2022, 14:11:36 »
KAT Napoleonic September Update
07 Sep 2022
Back in early August, after my last update, Keyreative supplied a set of proposed alignment changes for a handful of homing keycaps. These changes were very minor and will only affect lower alpha positioning for barred homing keys in eight of the alpha kits. Scooped homing keys are unaffected.

I have sent Keyreative updated banderoles for the set. Each box will have a checklist printed on the back that customers may choose to mark in order to assist with identifying what kit is what.

I have not heard anything since approving the homing key legend tweaks.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 08 September 2022, 06:24:35 »
Someone in my Discord server just mentioned that they received a shipping notification for this set from ZFrontier. If this is indeed the case, I want to state publicly that I have NOT finished approving samples yet. I have NOT even seen all the kits.

I have communicated this with ZF and Keyreative and am awaiting a response.

UPDATE:
This does appear to be a miscommunication due to ZF beginning to ship deskmats, not keycaps.  However, they do appear to have sent shipping notifications for at least one order that included both a deskmat and caps, which is atypical for most vendors.
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 08 September 2022, 06:34:46 »
Yup. I received a shipping notification from zFrontier 4 hours ago. I was quite surprised. But it did say "One item in your order is on the way. Minard-Large" That's just the deskmat I believe. Forgot I even ordered that!  :rolleyes:
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 27 September 2022, 13:11:54 »
How many KAT sets are before us in production? Any ideas on when we'll possibly get our sets?

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | CLOSED
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 27 September 2022, 14:27:40 »
How many KAT sets are before us in production? Any ideas on when we'll possibly get our sets?

We’re at the front of the dyesub line, sort of. Our set is being actively worked on, at least as far as I’ve been told. However, kit samples have not all been approved, so it’s possible we won’t go into mass production until after some other set.

I know everyone is anxious to get their keycaps, but this is the part that I don’t want them to rush. I just wish it had not have been such an absurd wait to get to this point.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Shipping soon, apparently?
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 30 September 2022, 15:37:10 »
October Update
(one day early)

So we have good news and bad news. 

The good news is that ZFrontier has started shipping to customers, and that Keyreative has reported that they've finished production!

The bad news is that ZFrontier has started shipping to customers without letting me approve the kits first.  I received photos of production samples for (nearly) every kit only about 24-48 hours ago, and I've spent a long time combing through them.

Overall, the quality looks good, but I have already identified six kits (out of the 39 I've seen) with errors.  And because I've only seen top-down photos, I cannot properly confirm that every key is indeed printed to the correct row.  I may find further errors as the days progress.

Additionally, because Keyreative would rather do a rush job rather than contact a designer or vendor, the packaging art was done without my involvement or approval.  I didn't hear about this until after I submitted my own revised packaging design, at which point I discovered that they'd not only created their own packaging but had gone ahead and printed it.  Completely and utterly annoying, and a totally avoidable issue, but this goes on the pile of "things I will complain about, but not high priority enough to demand change."

I have communicated the six kits with known errors to Keyreative and am waiting on a response.  I have also asked for further photos of a few kits with nonstandard row assignments (Colemak, Dvorak, and a few others) to confirm that legend placement is indeed correct.

Some of the kitting errors may be due to keys being sorted incorrectly, so it's possible that some errors will not be consistent across an entire kit.  One such error is the inclusion of French-language accented keys in kits that were specified as English-language legends.

SUMMARY OF KNOWN ISSUES:
  • Keyreative will ship this set in unapproved packaging art. Highly unlikely to be corrected.
  • Russian Green TKL Mods kit contains French-language legend accent keys instead of their English-language counterparts.
    10 October - Keyreative has supplied a photo of a corrected kit.
  • Russian Green Ergo Mods kit contains one French-language novelty (Retirer instead of Retreat).
    10 October - Keyreative has supplied a photo of a corrected kit.
  • French Indigo Ortho kit is missing three keys.
    10 October - Keyreative has supplied a photo of a corrected kit.
  • Mac Kit has French/English legends backwards for the 1.5u Commande / Command keys.
    04 October - Keyreative has supplied a photo of a corrected kit.
  • Madness Kit currently includes scooped FJ and non-homing FJ; it should instead contain scooped and barred FJ keys.
    04 October - Keyreative has supplied a photo of a corrected kit.
  • Tamil Alphas Kit currently is missing its =+ key and includes the wrong mod-colored keys (legend centering inconsistent with other alphas in that kit).
    10 October - Keyreative has supplied a photo of a corrected kit.

That all being said, here are some photos of what I think are good-looking keycaps.

Updated 10 October

I have received photos of corrections to all kit issues.  The only remaining known issue is the incorrect artwork for the packaging which unfortunately won't be corrected.
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Shipping soon, apparently?
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 30 September 2022, 18:47:44 »
Sorry to hear Mr Intended. Best of luck in the future : (
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Shipping soon, apparently?
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 04 October 2022, 08:56:20 »
04 October Update:

Keyreative has supplied photos of corrected kits for two of the kits listed as a known issue. They have also claimed that one kit issue was the photographer's mistake.

I'm awaiting further updates on the other errors.

Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Shipping soon, apparently?
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 04 October 2022, 18:09:43 »
Thank you for the updates and your attention to detail.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Shipping soon
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 10 October 2022, 09:50:02 »


Corrected photos of all kits have been received. I have given Keyreative approval to start officially shipping KAT Napoleonic kits to vendors and customers (though it's already confirmed they've shipped *some* sets to customers anyway, though so far those were of previously approved kits).

Please let me know if you find any errors in your kits when you receive them so that I can collect these issues and discuss them with Keyreative.  I've seen one customer photo so far; their default alphas and French Indigo TKL mods apparently turned out really well.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 14 October 2022, 17:54:24 »
A quick clarification:

ZFrontier has already begun shipping some kits to customers, but other vendors are still waiting to hear from Keyreative & ZF in order to make factory shipping arrangements. We have asked ZF & Keyreative for clarification.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #93 on: Sat, 15 October 2022, 08:26:02 »
Really appreciate the updates NoPun! I am really excited to get these. But asking Keyreative for clarification is a bit like asking your dog to speak Spanish.  :rolleyes:

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 25 October 2022, 07:04:17 »
I did get a shipping notification last week! I ordered from Keyreative so will likely take a few weeks to arrive in Chicago, but super excited to see these. I have about 6 kits coming.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #95 on: Tue, 25 October 2022, 07:10:36 »
MKUltra started shipping yet?

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #96 on: Tue, 25 October 2022, 12:06:17 »
MKUltra started shipping yet?

We are currently awaiting a quote from Keyreative/ZF for sea shipping.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 08:46:29 »
Brief update:

I have confirmed that keycaps should be making their way to these vendors now:
MKUltra
Ashkeebs
Hex.KB
MyKeyboard

I am still waiting for confirmation from MyKeyboard, but it's highly likely that their shipment is in progress as well.

ZFrontier is already shipping caps to customers.

I anticipate that US orders may begin shipping to customers at some point in mid-to-late December based on the ETA of the ship carrying the stock, but there are a number of factors that could delay that further (particularly if caps get held at customs again for an unreasonable amount of time, as occurred with at least one other set).

I have received my own personal order direct from the factory and have been sharing pictures of it mounted on several boards on Reddit and Instagram.  I will have a post on my wordpress site with the entire photo series after it has completed.
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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 09:06:03 »
Thanks for updating the GB thread.

Brief update:

I have confirmed that keycaps should be making their way to these vendors now:
MKUltra
Ashkeebs
Hex.KB

I am still waiting for confirmation from MyKeyboard, but it's highly likely that their shipment is in progress as well.

ZFrontier is already shipping caps to customers.

I anticipate that US orders may begin shipping to customers at some point in mid-to-late December based on the ETA of the ship carrying the stock, but there are a number of factors that could delay that further (particularly if caps get held at customs again for an unreasonable amount of time, as occurred with at least one other set).

I have received my own personal order direct from the factory and have been sharing pictures of it mounted on several boards on Reddit and Instagram.  I will have a post on my wordpress site with the entire photo series after it has completed.

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Re: [GB] KAT Napoleonic | Awaiting ZF to ship to vendors
« Reply #99 on: Sun, 11 December 2022, 17:18:11 »
December Update

Not a lot to update here for December. Some vendors will probably be shipping units soon if they haven't started already. To my understanding, the US vendor (MKUltra) is still waiting for the caps to arrive by ocean freight.

So we play the waiting game.