| 0 | 150 | 250 | Current numbers | |
| Base Kit | -- | 59.99 | TBD | 131 |
| Green Mods Kit | -- | 77.99 | TBD | 122 |
| Light Gray Mods Kit | -- | 69.99 | TBD | 47 |
| Spacebars | 7.99 | 7.99 | 7.99 | N/A |
[url=https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-ta-royal-alpha-typewriter-keycap-set-2/?mode=guest_open][img]http://i.imgur.com/7rRYLSn.png[/img][/url](http://i.imgur.com/7rRYLSn.png) (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-ta-royal-alpha-typewriter-keycap-set-2/?mode=guest_open)Is this going to look faded like the collectibles, or like a new Triumph Adler? A lot of people where surprised about that in the last TA group buy, as they were drawn in by the faded color scheme.
It's going to look new, the TA set used custom colors to get the aged look, no such attempt is being made here as GMK weren't able to replicate their quality when mixing custom colors. I think the renders are pretty close to what the set should look like.Thanks! Good job on setting up the group buy ;)
Where the prices mentioned in the interest check? I feel a little bit disoriented :-D
Also. No bars.
Where the prices mentioned in the interest check? I feel a little bit disoriented :-D
The prices are on massdrop. There's a link to it in the op. =)Also. No bars.
scoops > bars <3
I know that the prices are on md. The fact is that many decisions were taken without taking money into account. I would have preferred a set which hase beige alphas with green mods. That's 200 bucks vs 110 bucks.
The colored mods vs alpha base mods is one I'm hearing a lot. I was well aware of the cost of this and had initially thought of having green mods in the base set, however people really wanted to emulate the look of the typewriter set and in the interest of diversity, I went ahead with the current setup. Good thing is you have a complete set plus a mod set.
For the other two parts if this trilogy, we'll most likely see colored mods in the base set, and beige mods as an addon.
MOZ,
Placing an order on Massdrop, I found something mysterious.
For example, let's suppose I'd like to buy 3 spacebars only and the initial shipping fee is $9.99.
At the order stage, I try to select all 3 spacebars together at a time, but I can't because there is no option like that.
To buy 3 spacebars, I have to click "ADD ANOTHER ORDER" button 2 more times.
BTW, the shipping fee has increased as below.
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Obviously it is odd, isn't?
I think 4 more options should be included in spacebars: 3K+AE, AE+N7, 3K+N7, and 3K+AE+N7.
MOZ,
Placing an order on Massdrop, I found something mysterious.
For example, let's suppose I'd like to buy 3 spacebars only and the initial shipping fee is $9.99.
At the order stage, I try to select all 3 spacebars together at a time, but I can't because there is no option like that.
To buy 3 spacebars, I have to click "ADD ANOTHER ORDER" button 2 more times.
BTW, the shipping fee has increased as below.
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Obviously it is odd, isn't?
I think 4 more options should be included in spacebars: 3K+AE, AE+N7, 3K+N7, and 3K+AE+N7.
You're saying that the shipping also increases as you add more spacebars, but really it shouldn't, correct?
I'll check with Yanbo and update you.
I'll check with Yanbo and update you.
Any update yet?
Word I've got is that the system isn't designed to handle multiple orders of spacebars only and that is why the scaling in shipping price is distorted if you buy only spacebars.In other words they aren't making enough money on spacebar only sales? :P
Word I've got is that the system isn't designed to handle multiple orders of spacebars only and that is why the scaling in shipping price is distorted if you buy only spacebars.In other words they aren't making enough money on spacebar only sales? :P
I'll check with Yanbo and update you.
Any update yet?
Check the post right above yours.
Word I've got is that the system isn't designed to handle multiple orders of spacebars only and that is why the scaling in shipping price is distorted if you buy only spacebars.
As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
I'll be crushed if this doesn't see production, but I see 85 of 150, so we're half way there. 75 orders in 13 days is realistic no?
I am trying my best to get this to reach MOQ, everything from making it available in China, vendors and even breaking the base set into alphas and gray mods. Let's hope for the best.
It was 91 orders last night, 85 now, :(
I am trying my best to get this to reach MOQ, everything from making it available in China, vendors and even breaking the base set into alphas and gray mods. Let's hope for the best.
It was 91 orders last night, 85 now, :(
Assuming the worst case scenario here and we don't meet the MOQ, can we work with GMK in any other capacity to get a small run of the keys produced? I'd even pay a premium to get them. You've worked so hard to make this GB a reality I would hate to see it not come to fruition.
I am trying my best to get this to reach MOQ, everything from making it available in China, vendors and even breaking the base set into alphas and gray mods. Let's hope for the best.
It was 91 orders last night, 85 now, :(
Assuming the worst case scenario here and we don't meet the MOQ, can we work with GMK in any other capacity to get a small run of the keys produced? I'd even pay a premium to get them. You've worked so hard to make this GB a reality I would hate to see it not come to fruition.
There is a premium though.
It's called ordering more sets. :))
Over the past few days the total orders have gone from 88 to 92 to 87 and now they're at 85. I'm not sure that I understand everything that I know about this drop.
Owing to a cash flow issue (too much flowing out and not enough flowing in) I haven't jumped in yet, but I'm going to rectify that presently. Taking the plunge ... now.
OK, so it's still not possible to order a second spacebar kit, without ordering a second base kit. While we're obviously not going to push this set over the MOQ by selling a spare spacebar here and there, a lost sale is a lost sale ... and an unhappy customer. This isn't MD's first rodeo; WTF?
I am trying my best to get this to reach MOQ, everything from making it available in China, vendors and even breaking the base set into alphas and gray mods. Let's hope for the best.
It was 91 orders last night, 85 now, :(
I am trying my best to get this to reach MOQ, everything from making it available in China, vendors and even breaking the base set into alphas and gray mods. Let's hope for the best.
It was 91 orders last night, 85 now, :(
Is it not too late to split the alphas from the mods? I didn't know massdrop would let you change a drop halfway through. I'm in for the full shebang, but I know for a lot of people the ~$200 for mods and base set is a bit painful. Still a sweet set, love the green, and really hope the drop ends up successful.
Over the past few days the total orders have gone from 88 to 92 to 87 and now they're at 85. I'm not sure that I understand everything that I know about this drop.
Owing to a cash flow issue (too much flowing out and not enough flowing in) I haven't jumped in yet, but I'm going to rectify that presently. Taking the plunge ... now.
OK, so it's still not possible to order a second spacebar kit, without ordering a second base kit. While we're obviously not going to push this set over the MOQ by selling a spare spacebar here and there, a lost sale is a lost sale ... and an unhappy customer. This isn't MD's first rodeo; WTF?
You can add a second spacebar set, just setup your order as you want it, then use the "Add Another Order" button and select No for "Base kit Option"
As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
I feel the same way! It might come off as elitist, but as I said in the IC thread IMO people don't appreciate the quality of GMK caps, especially when they've never seen/owned them. They've read somewhere that PBT>ABS and they can get their tai-hai rainbow caps for 50 bucks and that's just that.
I get that not everyone wants to sink the amounts of money into this hobby that some of us are, I even like some of the unicorn-vomit colorways, what I don't get is the complaining and bashing and trolling and discouraging others from joining the drop, that is going on in the MD comments section.
I really hope we'll reach MOQ despite all the haters, would be a shame not to see this set produced.
As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
I feel the same way! It might come off as elitist, but as I said in the IC thread IMO people don't appreciate the quality of GMK caps, especially when they've never seen/owned them. They've read somewhere that PBT>ABS and they can get their tai-hai rainbow caps for 50 bucks and that's just that.
I get that not everyone wants to sink the amounts of money into this hobby that some of us are, I even like some of the unicorn-vomit colorways, what I don't get is the complaining and bashing and trolling and discouraging others from joining the drop, that is going on in the MD comments section.
I really hope we'll reach MOQ despite all the haters, would be a shame not to see this set produced.As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
i hate the unicorn vomit s*** too, but that argument doesn't hold up here. GMK Hyperfuse and Triumph Adler were both ridiculously successful and they were both over $100.
I'd join in a heartbeat if the green mods were included with the base set, but I just can't justify spending $200 on a keyset, and it seems like quite a few people share my opinion.
As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
I feel the same way! It might come off as elitist, but as I said in the IC thread IMO people don't appreciate the quality of GMK caps, especially when they've never seen/owned them. They've read somewhere that PBT>ABS and they can get their tai-hai rainbow caps for 50 bucks and that's just that.
I get that not everyone wants to sink the amounts of money into this hobby that some of us are, I even like some of the unicorn-vomit colorways, what I don't get is the complaining and bashing and trolling and discouraging others from joining the drop, that is going on in the MD comments section.
I really hope we'll reach MOQ despite all the haters, would be a shame not to see this set produced.As good of a set this is, it might not reach MOQ at all. These ****ing people and their taste in ****ty rainbow vomit colour schemes in crappy SP SA profile, really grinds my gears. They don't know quality when they see it.
i hate the unicorn vomit s*** too, but that argument doesn't hold up here. GMK Hyperfuse and Triumph Adler were both ridiculously successful and they were both over $100.
I'd join in a heartbeat if the green mods were included with the base set, but I just can't justify spending $200 on a keyset, and it seems like quite a few people share my opinion.
I completely understand that sentiment, but what I don't understand is why people didn't mention this earlier in IC phase? It's not like the number of keycaps isn't indicative of the price. I've highlighted that my initial plan was to have the green mods in the base set, however from the responses in the IC thread, I was led to believe that a full light gray base set would be preferred. This seems to have been detrimental to the (possible)failure of this Group Buy. Hopefully we can find a solution soon. GMK are slow to respond :/
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Pricing?
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
I can't disclose the pricing information, but total price for all the sets will be about the same as it is now.
It will be cheaper to own alphas+green mods than before.
It will be slightly more expensive (Maybe ~$15 more) to own the old base kit (alphas+gray mods) however, you will have support for all the alternate layouts.
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
I can't disclose the pricing information, but total price for all the sets will be about the same as it is now.
It will be cheaper to own alphas+green mods than before.
It will be slightly more expensive (Maybe ~$15 more) to own the old base kit (alphas+gray mods) however, you will have support for all the alternate layouts.
Huh what? then you won't even tell massdrop about the new pricing structure?
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
Huh what? then you won't even tell massdrop about the new pricing structure?LOL, I can't reveal pricing until discussed with MassDrop.
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
I'm tempted to think this will be even more confusing to the wide range of massdrop customers.
On the other hand it would make the set cheaper for those who want green mods only.
I'm kinda undecided on this one tbh.
How about just dropping numpad?
Feels to me like the majority of people just need tkl anyway...
Would be sad for 1800 layout people but might help with decreasing the price for the most.
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
I'm tempted to think this will be even more confusing to the wide range of massdrop customers.
On the other hand it would make the set cheaper for those who want green mods only.
I'm kinda undecided on this one tbh.
How about just dropping numpad?
Feels to me like the majority of people just need tkl anyway...
Would be sad for 1800 layout people but might help with decreasing the price for the most.
Alternatively, because many sets lack numpad/1800 support, people that own such keyboards (myself included) are that much more likely to buy a set.
You're doing great work and putting a lot of effort into this so don't be discouraged if this doesn't drop on your first try.
Go do the other two colour ways and come back to this one again later.
If however it does drop now then great!
Man the green mod + base kit would be an insta-buy for me!!!!
Thoughts on these sets?
BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/JU7ji6d.png)
Green ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pl7dDSp.png)
Light Gray ModsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ERsOFsF.png)
-- Spacebar packs in the three (AE, N7, 3K) will also be available.
-- Outcasts kit absorbed among the three kits. Pairing either mods with the alphas will give you compatibility with most layouts (ANSI, ISO, WhiteFox, FC660, 1800, HHKB, 65%, 75%)
I'm tempted to think this will be even more confusing to the wide range of massdrop customers.
On the other hand it would make the set cheaper for those who want green mods only.
I'm kinda undecided on this one tbh.
How about just dropping numpad?
Feels to me like the majority of people just need tkl anyway...
Would be sad for 1800 layout people but might help with decreasing the price for the most.
This drop will be live again tomorrow 3/24/16 with new prices and kits!
Yanbo says:QuoteThis drop will be live again tomorrow 3/24/16 with new prices and kits!
Re-Launched with a new breakup, allowing you to pair the base with either mod kits.
Price Comparison:
All light gray - $115 vs $130, but now you have support for all the alternate layouts, no need to spend $28 on the Outcasts kit!
Base with Green mods - $188 vs $143, with support for the alternate layouts, no need to spend $28 on the Outcasts kit!
Full Monty - $225 vs $221, It's cheaper and more logical!
EDIT: Oh, and the whining has again started in MD comments :-XThat'll always be there. Best to ignore them and only respond to genuine comments.
Re-placed my order! I threw in 2x light modifiers to hopefully help it succeed.
Re-placed my order! I threw in 2x light modifiers to hopefully help it succeed.
Thanks! I'm hopeful that this time we can make the numbers. Fingers crossed.
Am I missing something, what happpened to 1800 support?
Am I missing something, what happpened to 1800 support?
It's there in both modifier kits, instead of in a separate pack now.
It was $225 for everything, now it's $221.
It was $225 for everything, now it's $221.
I wasn't buying the outcast kit or anything, I forgot to mention. It was $196 with the base kit, the modifier kits, and one of each green spacebar kit. It's $236 with for the same options except more expensive because of the support for the niche boards.
It's probably impossible to just straight out make everything cheaper.I mean, the only way to make the group buy any cheaper is to get more people to join it in the first place. I understand the desire for including support for niche keyboards as they're all gorgeous, but I'm not sure if endangering the entire group buy as a whole is worth it. If 150 people can't get behind a kit for niche keyboard support, the number of people using that kit must already be very small. Personally, I'd much rather have a group buy that is ultimately successful as it gets the kit into the hands of more people to show off to everyone instead of having a few vocal proponents push this small subset of keys that drives up the price of the set as a whole and reduce the potential number of people joining a group buy.
Splitting the mods and including the outcast seems to have decreased the price for lots of possible combinations.
Also including the outcast set increases chances for it reaching moq.
That being said I'm kind of in the same boat.
Was on the fence about adding outcast or not but I guess easy choice now, probably good to have the full set anyway xD
It's probably impossible to just straight out make everything cheaper.I mean, the only way to make the group buy any cheaper is to get more people to join it in the first place. I understand the desire for including support for niche keyboards as they're all gorgeous, but I'm not sure if endangering the entire group buy as a whole is worth it. If 150 people can't get behind a kit for niche keyboard support, the number of people using that kit must already be very small. Personally, I'd much rather have a group buy that is ultimately successful as it gets the kit into the hands of more people to show off to everyone instead of having a few vocal proponents push this small subset of keys that drives up the price of the set as a whole and reduce the potential number of people joining a group buy.
Splitting the mods and including the outcast seems to have decreased the price for lots of possible combinations.
Also including the outcast set increases chances for it reaching moq.
That being said I'm kind of in the same boat.
Was on the fence about adding outcast or not but I guess easy choice now, probably good to have the full set anyway xD
Yeah, I know I'm not really any sort of well known part of the greater keyboard community but these are my thoughts having lurked around for the most part in the past few years.
A very modular GMK buy doesn't work, it's been tried in the past, 2-3 kits really is the limit as far as modularity goes, because the individual MOQ for each kit is 150, or if somehow lowered, 100, not lower than that. Some compromises have to be made. In the case of this buy, I can understand that not many compromises have been done to reduce keycaps, and perhaps we could have left out some keys and gone for a more standard set, but where's the fun in that?
It's probably impossible to just straight out make everything cheaper.I mean, the only way to make the group buy any cheaper is to get more people to join it in the first place. I understand the desire for including support for niche keyboards as they're all gorgeous, but I'm not sure if endangering the entire group buy as a whole is worth it. If 150 people can't get behind a kit for niche keyboard support, the number of people using that kit must already be very small. Personally, I'd much rather have a group buy that is ultimately successful as it gets the kit into the hands of more people to show off to everyone instead of having a few vocal proponents push this small subset of keys that drives up the price of the set as a whole and reduce the potential number of people joining a group buy.
Splitting the mods and including the outcast seems to have decreased the price for lots of possible combinations.
Also including the outcast set increases chances for it reaching moq.
That being said I'm kind of in the same boat.
Was on the fence about adding outcast or not but I guess easy choice now, probably good to have the full set anyway xD
Yeah, I know I'm not really any sort of well known part of the greater keyboard community but these are my thoughts having lurked around for the most part in the past few years.
Just wanted to place my order for the base and green mod set.
Is there any way to get one of each spacebar pack without adding extra orders?
I mean adding a 2nd and 3rd order just for the spacebars increases the shipping cost by 7,5$ which is kinda ridiculous :(
Just wanted to place my order for the base and green mod set.
Is there any way to get one of each spacebar pack without adding extra orders?
I mean adding a 2nd and 3rd order just for the spacebars increases the shipping cost by 7,5$ which is kinda ridiculous :(
I understand, I'll forward your query to Yanbo, hopefully we can work something out. :)
As much as I hate to admit it, looks like we won't hit the required numbers.
Updated OP with the current orders.
As much as I hate to admit it, looks like we won't hit the required numbers. Don't know what went wrong. Even after the restructuring, I feel like the same people who were participating before, participated this time round, and those bickering earlier still stayed away. :/
Updated OP with the current orders.
As much as I hate to admit it, looks like we won't hit the required numbers. Don't know what went wrong. Even after the restructuring, I feel like the same people who were participating before, participated this time round, and those bickering earlier still stayed away. :/
So basically the project is dead if it doesn't hit moq on massdrop? :(
Yeah, I had no idea it was relaunched until someone mentioned it elsewhere.That, or all the GMK drops I've joined are doomed to fail. RIP Miami Nights, SNES, and this. Lime, destroyer of GMK drops.
Just personal views;
Price isn't matter much, but the sub legends bugging me a lot because the keyset became like GMK Irish set instead of the original plain looking of Royal Alpha Typewriters.
Besides, some alpha keys are pad printed, some are not. If you got to type on them u will notice they feels very different on those that are pad printed.
Pad printed surface are having more resistance to finger tips; while regular double shot just feels smoother and better to me.
If people just want to put them on for photo shooting this set is looking very awesome to be honest, but practically for daily use ....well......
Does it make it any cheaper to remove the pad printed sub legends?
The concern raised over the dual legends is interesting, what is more deterring the pad-printing or the sub-legends?I doubt the sub-legends or pad-printing played a big part in the low interest so far. It was one of the things that separated this set from all the other two-tone sets. There's always the same people whining that they're not getting some obscure personal preference satisfied, and they want to let the whole world know how morally outraged they are about it. You are better off listening to your own gut than trying to satisfy everyone.
Updated OP with the current orders.
As much as I hate to admit it, looks like we won't hit the required numbers. Don't know what went wrong. Even after the restructuring, I feel like the same people who were participating before, participated this time round, and those bickering earlier still stayed away. :/
I too love the look of sublegends. Looks like we will have to stick to PBT for them :(
Can't believe soo many people are voicing negative opinions towards the sublegends.
To me the sublegends are a major feature of the set that makes this very unique and attractive in terms of aesthetics.
And sublegends are pretty much all about aesthetics even tho I'm an us int user.
I don't really think the argument they are only attractive to Europeans hold up if you look at how many people enjoy the looks ru subs f.e.
Of course to each his own opinion, just wanted to voice mine.
Sublegends <3
Can't believe soo many people are voicing negative opinions towards the sublegends.
To me the sublegends are a major feature of the set that makes this very unique and attractive in terms of aesthetics.
And sublegends are pretty much all about aesthetics even tho I'm an us int user.
I don't really think the argument they are only attractive to Europeans hold up if you look at how many people enjoy the looks ru subs f.e.
Of course to each his own opinion, just wanted to voice mine.
Sublegends <3
I too love the look of sublegends. Looks like we will have to stick to PBT for them :(
I would love this set, but I can't afford to have $150 tied up unless it's a sure thing.
Correct. You're not charged until the drop ends and succeeds.I would love this set, but I can't afford to have $150 tied up unless it's a sure thing.
Don't you just authorize massdrop to get the money from your bank account IF the drop is succesful?
I don't think my money is tied up. If the drop happens I am very happy - if not it's like it never existed.
The numbers only seem to be going down now, defeat is imminent.
This is extremely upsetting as these modifiers were part of an end game layout for me...
Thanks, it's best to join ASAP, as payment is debited only if the drop is successful. Adding orders gives people confidence that we are going to make it and encourages others to participate.
Despite seeing all these people adding orders the total number is still decreasing on Massdrop :(
Is there a chance that Massdrop will still place an order and sell the extra kits later for a little markup?
Once people see the real keys on a nice board, there is not doubt there will be enough interest to sell them within 24h...
Despite seeing all these people adding orders the total number is still decreasing on Massdrop :(
Is there a chance that Massdrop will still place an order and sell the extra kits later for a little markup?
Once people see the real keys on a nice board, there is not doubt there will be enough interest to sell them within 24h...
I'll try and work something out and keep our fingers crossed for this one.
Ohhh you are going to do some traditional GB? fill me in!
Ohhh you are going to do some traditional GB? fill me in!
No, definitely no traditional GB at least from me. If someone else wants to do it and this fails, sure you are welcome.
I will try to get some vendor support and see what our friends from the far-east can chip in with.
I haven't read thought this thread so hopefully what I'm about to say hasn't been said already.
From my perspective there's a few issues with this set, but the main problem is that there's a very good chance that, if this set got 150 orders, only the base kit would hit MOQ due to there being 2 options for modifiers. Most people will only choose one, making the effective MOQ closer to 250 (based on current order ratio) just to get 1 of the mod sets made.
I think if you wanted to try again I would suggest:
- Combining the base and green mod sets + light grey spacebars, to make 1 full kit.
- Keep the light grey mods as a seperate kit.
- Try and reduce the cost of spacebars, though I understand that this isn't up to you it just seems like a lot.
EDIT: Sorry if this sounded rude, just wanted to offer another perspective.
I haven't read thought this thread so hopefully what I'm about to say hasn't been said already.
From my perspective there's a few issues with this set, but the main problem is that there's a very good chance that, if this set got 150 orders, only the base kit would hit MOQ due to there being 2 options for modifiers. Most people will only choose one, making the effective MOQ closer to 250 (based on current order ratio) just to get 1 of the mod sets made.
I think if you wanted to try again I would suggest:
- Combining the base and green mod sets + light grey spacebars, to make 1 full kit.
- Keep the light grey mods as a seperate kit.
- Try and reduce the cost of spacebars, though I understand that this isn't up to you it just seems like a lot.
EDIT: Sorry if this sounded rude, just wanted to offer another perspective.
More problems I can think of:
- Massdrop adds additional cost to already expensive GMK group buys
- GMK Triumph Adler's shipping disaster and the weird color mixing driving away people who used to be interested in GMK sets
More problems I can think of:
- Massdrop adds additional cost to already expensive GMK group buys
- GMK Triumph Adler's shipping disaster and the weird color mixing driving away people who used to be interested in GMK sets
Massdrop screwed us up by launching Planck & Preonic before ours ends. This alone probably accounts for at least 50 defections. If this set is compatible with Planck/Preonic, only then it would make sense to launch Planck/Preonic now. They are usually pretty smart about this, but apparently not this time. Next time we are doing this with Massdrop, let's make sure they get the timing right.More problems I can think of:
- Massdrop adds additional cost to already expensive GMK group buys
- GMK Triumph Adler's shipping disaster and the weird color mixing driving away people who used to be interested in GMK sets
Don't forget that the low pricing conditioned people to think it was typical.Is that really the fault of the group buy though? GMK is the prohibitively expensive to those with a passing interest in the hobby, I'd go for a Granite set over something like this if I wasn't more into keyboards either.
I don't think that has anything to do with conflicts of interest. There have been multiple times where big price items have dropped side to side.
sir can you ship to viet nam please, im want to buy 1 set, this set look amazing
sir can you ship to viet nam please, im want to buy 1 set, this set look amazing
You can order on MassDrop :)
That's right.But VNMK is having a GB for this set.So i don't know if the GB was cancelled or he want to buy sepratelysir can you ship to viet nam please, im want to buy 1 set, this set look amazing
You can order on MassDrop :)
If I am not mistaken Massdrop doesn't ship to Vietnam because they had problems in the past. Not 100% sure though...
Maybe that's why he is looking for a proxy.
sir can you ship to viet nam please, im want to buy 1 set, this set look amazingbro MD not ship to Việt Nam!,
I wonder how many people we could get if we could get a distributor to send sets to Vietnam?i dont know may be only me, i just want to save this drop
Getting closer. Here's to hoping for some purchases from some Proxies and vendors!
122 orders. 28 more orders in the next 12 hours, what do you guys think? Maybe Massdrop can pick up the rest of the orders and sell them in an April or May Bazaar sale or something... Here's to hoping it goes through, I can't afford more than one complete set.
122 orders. 28 more orders in the next 12 hours, what do you guys think? Maybe Massdrop can pick up the rest of the orders and sell them in an April or May Bazaar sale or something... Here's to hoping it goes through, I can't afford more than one complete set.
122 orders. 28 more orders in the next 12 hours, what do you guys think? Maybe Massdrop can pick up the rest of the orders and sell them in an April or May Bazaar sale or something... Here's to hoping it goes through, I can't afford more than one complete set.
Isn't there a MOQ for each kit? 122 orders don't necessarily mean 122 for each kit... I hope we can pass the MOQ too.
Oof. So, not to be a Debbie Downer, but this set probably won't be happening?
Oof. So, not to be a Debbie Downer, but this set probably won't be happening?
Still some time left.
Oof. So, not to be a Debbie Downer, but this set probably won't be happening?
Still some time left.
I definitely want this set to happen, but I'm just speculating based on the fact that each kit needs 150 orders minimum and we have only ~130 total.
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
So this will happen even though none of the individual sets have reached MOQ?
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
So this will happen even though none of the individual sets have reached MOQ?
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
So this will happen even though none of the individual sets have reached MOQ?
My guess is no, but I'm hoping MD will make up the difference to sell off on their own. I really want this set
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
So this will happen even though none of the individual sets have reached MOQ?
My guess is no, but I'm hoping MD will make up the difference to sell off on their own. I really want this set
Those numbers haven't been updated in a few days though :/
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
So this will happen even though none of the individual sets have reached MOQ?
My guess is no, but I'm hoping MD will make up the difference to sell off on their own. I really want this set
Those numbers haven't been updated in a few days though :/
Look at the total numbers, however--only around 180. If one set were to reach MOQ, then 150/180 orders has to be one of the sets, and unfortunately none of those kits constitutes a full keyboard kit.
Finally,it's alive ;D ;D Congrats Moz for your great works :thumb: :thumb:
Yeah and it's up to 181 sets!
So this will happen even though none of the individual sets have reached MOQ?
My guess is no, but I'm hoping MD will make up the difference to sell off on their own. I really want this set
Those numbers haven't been updated in a few days though :/
Look at the total numbers, however--only around 180. If one set were to reach MOQ, then 150/180 orders has to be one of the sets, and unfortunately none of those kits constitutes a full keyboard kit.
I understand that. We can only wait and see at this point though.
Yeah it would be completely pointless for only one pack to drop, and I mean even if we did get 150 orders on the base set, we still need mods... which are separated into 2 different packs that probably won't hit MOQ.
If it dies, I would love for this to come back, but with the alphas and green mods as one kit, seeing as that's the real meat of the set. Then the light mods and space bars as separate child deals.
If it dies, I would love for this to come back, but with the alphas and green mods as one kit, seeing as that's the real meat of the set. Then the light mods and space bars as separate child deals.
If I wasn't about to start the home buying process, I'd probably attempt to run without the light mods myself.
If it dies, I would love for this to come back, but with the alphas and green mods as one kit, seeing as that's the real meat of the set. Then the light mods and space bars as separate child deals.
yep because some bastard then we got this ****, now i have to look for the way to get this setsir can you ship to viet nam please, im want to buy 1 set, this set look amazing
You can order on MassDrop :)
If I am not mistaken Massdrop doesn't ship to Vietnam because they had problems in the past. Not 100% sure though...
Maybe that's why he is looking for a proxy.
The buy has been extended as is now up to 231. Hopefully this extra day will allow us to reach our goal(s).
Any update on the extra spacebar "situation"?
If I order a 2nd spacebar kit I have to add another order which means another 5$ in shipping. Adding a 3rd spacabar kit is another 5$ for shipping.
This keeps me from buying the green spacebars in addition to my fullsize set :(
Any update on the extra spacebar "situation"?
If I order a 2nd spacebar kit I have to add another order which means another 5$ in shipping. Adding a 3rd spacabar kit is another 5$ for shipping.
This keeps me from buying the green spacebars in addition to my fullsize set :(
Someone raised the same question on MassDrop. I've emailed them on the same. Since MassDrop is hosting this, it's their decision on how to handle it.
Any idea if all child deals like spacebars will happen?I think if you got charged for whatever you selected then they got tipped?
MD just says drop succesfull as far as I can tell...
So now that this tipped can you show us the other two designs you cooked up? Or has doing mockups for the pbt sets taken all of your design energy?
Emailed Massdrop to see if I could alter my order slightly. Email sent less than 12 hours after drop ends.
Get email back saying the order has already been placed and nothing can be changed. I am slightly disappointed to hear it to say the least.
I was only looking to change a green mod pack to grey. :(
Emailed Massdrop to see if I could alter my order slightly. Email sent less than 12 hours after drop ends.
Get email back saying the order has already been placed and nothing can be changed. I am slightly disappointed to hear it to say the least.
I was only looking to change a green mod pack to grey. :(
You saw the light but it was too late :(
It's as much a mystery to me, San Francisco just woke up, so expect a reply from MassDrop in a few hours.
I did, they said, they are running the numbers to see what will be produced. The money was debited for the complete order for everyone by the system automatically, this doesn't ensure that every kit will be produced. Depending on if some kit is not produced, the remaining amount will be refunded, so don't worry. We are going to try and make sure that all three kits at very least do get produced.
I did, they said, they are running the numbers to see what will be produced. The money was debited for the complete order for everyone by the system automatically, this doesn't ensure that every kit will be produced. Depending on if some kit is not produced, the remaining amount will be refunded, so don't worry. We are going to try and make sure that all three kits at very least do get produced.
I did, they said, they are running the numbers to see what will be produced. The money was debited for the complete order for everyone by the system automatically, this doesn't ensure that every kit will be produced. Depending on if some kit is not produced, the remaining amount will be refunded, so don't worry. We are going to try and make sure that all three kits at very least do get produced.
Well now I am pissed at Massdrop. Their customer service said they already sent the numbers and that I couldn't alter my order.
What the **** is up on their end then?
I did, they said, they are running the numbers to see what will be produced. The money was debited for the complete order for everyone by the system automatically, this doesn't ensure that every kit will be produced. Depending on if some kit is not produced, the remaining amount will be refunded, so don't worry. We are going to try and make sure that all three kits at very least do get produced.
Well now I am pissed at Massdrop. Their customer service said they already sent the numbers and that I couldn't alter my order.
What the **** is up on their end then?
Changing order now is going to complicate things. We want to try and make all three kits happen, that way no order changes will be required. We are in the process of aggregating orders from MassDrop, Chinese proxies and any vendor that might be interested in stocking some keycaps, this is all the make sure the gray mods reach a number which we can request GMK to produce as that is the only one that is going to be problematic. In the case that the grey mods don't happen, we'll work out a way to confirm orders from all the participants.
Well that is the issue. I want to change a green mod kit to a grey to try to help the gray happen.I understand your sentiment. Really appreciate it.
Well that is the issue. I want to change a green mod kit to a grey to try to help the gray happen.I understand your sentiment. Really appreciate it.
If we are short of 1 kit to reaching the grey, I'll ask for your order to be changed :))
I did, they said, they are running the numbers to see what will be produced. The money was debited for the complete order for everyone by the system automatically, this doesn't ensure that every kit will be produced. Depending on if some kit is not produced, the remaining amount will be refunded, so don't worry. We are going to try and make sure that all three kits at very least do get produced.
The problem with refunds is those who are paying with non USD credit card/paypal account will still have to pay for currency exchange difference. I hope this doesn't happen. MD should process captures manually if the decision is still not final.I did, they said, they are running the numbers to see what will be produced. The money was debited for the complete order for everyone by the system automatically, this doesn't ensure that every kit will be produced. Depending on if some kit is not produced, the remaining amount will be refunded, so don't worry. We are going to try and make sure that all three kits at very least do get produced.
https://world.taobao.com/item/528461924048.htm
bruh, Brruh, BRUH
It's great, they will help us make sure we reach MOQ.
It's great, they will help us make sure we reach MOQ.
No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
how will ordering work going forward?
No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
Still no chance at changing an order done through MD though?
No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
Still no chance at changing an order done through MD though?
I admire your persistence :p
If they let a vendor place a large order after the fact which is what Moz seemed to indicate above then saying they can't change orders is completely bogus.No, the drop isn't dead. I have been approached by a US based vendor as well who would be stocking up a sizable number of kits, so if you missed out there's still a chance.
We are just aggregating all the orders from the various sources.
Still no chance at changing an order done through MD though?
I admire your persistence :p
I will be persistent. They finally said they placed the order with GMK today and when I asked them to change my order right after the drop ended they said they already placed the order. **** that. Let me change my damn order you bastards.
I mean really how I am supposed to be okay with being lied to.
I'd just like to clarify, that the TaoBao orders, vendor orders, etc were all placed previous to the drop ending, no changes were made after the drop ended.
Order has been placed with GMK, MassDrop did manage to work out with GMK to produce all the kits that were on offer.
Still looking for an extra grey mod set.
Still looking for an extra grey mod set.
:(
Still looking for an extra grey mod set.
:(
I'll still sell you my extra green set.
Still looking for an extra grey mod set.
:(
I'll still sell you my extra green set.
No, I mean sad face because we both have no idea where to get extras!
Hahaha glad I I got Grey Mod set just before the drop closes :p :p
Shipping notification :)
Anyone got photos?
Got notified about tracking number. Hype!!!!
Anyone's actually ship?
Mine has been in preshipment info sent for 2 daysss
Dood pics please<3
I need to contact Massdrop then something is fishy here
Dood pics please<3
I need to contact Massdrop then something is fishy here
I'll try to get decent pictures tomorrow. Out of all my sets though, two alphas and two green mods plus 3 sets of spacebars, there are basically no scratches.
Dood pics please<3
I need to contact Massdrop then something is fishy here
I'll try to get decent pictures tomorrow. Out of all my sets though, two alphas and two green mods plus 3 sets of spacebars, there are basically no scratches.
You have 90 mins to get pics up or I report you to the mods.
Sorry too lazy to rotate it.
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this set is my unicorn. hoping to get the complete kits or see it re-run some day :(
I think so :( But I hope SNES will come back soon :thumb:this set is my unicorn. hoping to get the complete kits or see it re-run some day :(
With the way the first run went I doubt it will get another chance.
There's a good number of requests on MD, I've had a few PM me about extras, funnily I am yet to see the set in person and my proxy has not received the green mods too.
There's a good number of requests on MD, I've had a few PM me about extras, funnily I am yet to see the set in person and my proxy has not received the green mods too.
Damn I hope you get your set soon! It's a great set in person and I'm still trying to find a set of grey mods after the whole miscommunication about what sets would actually drop.