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Title: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:12:48: Hello Geekhack,

I had this idea when I saw a board of GON's - and with his permission I have stolen his picture to give you an idea (thanks GON :) ):

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43894.0;attach=23197;image)

(This image is for reference - I don't think that exact layout will be available on the final product - final product will have standard winkey and winkeyless bottom row)

My original idea was to build a board that I could put my skidata caps on and use at work (I need ISO at work, and F row) so I bugged JD and got him to draw up some plans for a case, like the JD40 case, that would facilitate this layout, and we (mainly him, me just throwing design requirements at him) came up with this design:

(http://i.imgur.com/6Eg9Sof.jpg)

I planned on getting some of these cases cut locally in steel and hand wiring the boards with teensy's.

Fast forward a few weeks and I was having a chat with GON, and he is willing to design for me the pcb and a case that would have way more features than my original board would.

Things you can expect from this board are all the usual custom board things, programmable, NKRO, etc. plus they will be bluetooth ready pcb's so you could make your board bluetooth (bluetooth will only work with the NS Crystal cases) . The pcb I imagine will be white. The GON will also support all the layouts, so can be ISO or ANSI etc. (my original supported only the ISO winkeyless layout)

There will be 2 housings available, the NS Crystal and the traditional NS AL cases.

All I need is 40 people interested in buying a pcb, and it would be great if some people wanted housings as well.

a couple of prices which are not definite but are a good reflection of what the prices will end up like,

PCB - $57
NS AL housing - $196

Those are just rough estimates, will be finalised if this gets to GB. I will also do a build service for these boards with the GB and I will do it at reduced cost as I really want this project to get off the ground.

If you want to get involved and make changes to the design speak out and we will see if we can incorporate them into the design.

Hopefully we can get this to 40 and make a new keyboard!

If this gets to GB will run it through all the normal [CTRL]ALT channels and www.GONsKeyboardworks.com :)

Please let me know if you are interested and I will get you added to the list.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:14:53: Interest:

33/40 PCB

Margo 4x PCB
BunnyLake & [CTRL]ALT 10x PCB
Jinq-sea
bueller 3x PCB
tanghus 3x PCB
Doobalicious
Dee1
Rioc
DzyDzyDino
madhias
peachesenregalia
Jason_IRL
Jrwestcoast
nikron
Sygaldry
evolveS
azhdar

Hopefully:

Sent
azhdar
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:15:58: in

bravo
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:18:22: This is so cool Margo!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:22:43: Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:18:22
This is so cool Margo!

Thanks bro :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:37:23: I will buy 3 PCB's if they support a standard bottom row, I was going to add a function row to a Nerd60 with Enablers but this is way easier. KUDOS!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:38:12: Quote from: bueller on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:37:23
I will buy 3 PCB's if they support a standard bottom row, I was going to add a function row to a Nerd60 with Enablers but this is way easier. KUDOS!

bottom row will support winkey or winkeyless standard layouts

Thanks bro :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: tanghus on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:41:27: I would definitely be interested in this! (Winkeyless PCB) :)
EDIT: Case too.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Doobalicious on Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:24:02: In for standard bottom row :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: rioc on Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:45:33: this would be perfect... ISO ftw!!! :D also dedicated arrows and Fs... nothing more wanted ;)
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:09:11: Quote from: rioc on Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:45:33
this would be perfect... ISO ftw!!! :D also dedicated arrows and Fs... nothing more wanted ;)

there probably won't be dedicated arrows :( they will be on a fn layer - the bottom row will be standard winkey or winkeyless which means there will be no dedicated arrows.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Dee1 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:42:00: I'd be interested in this PCB. :)
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:04:00: Quote from: rioc on Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:45:33
this would be perfect... ISO ftw!!! :D also dedicated arrows and Fs... nothing more wanted ;)

Quote from: tanghus on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:41:27
I would definitely be interested in this! (Winkeyless PCB) :)
EDIT: Case too.

Quote from: Dee1 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:42:00
I'd be interested in this PCB. :)

Thanks guys :)

Tanghus - only keeping count of PCB's at the moment, as hopefully some people will want cases too, but we'll work at getting to 40 pcb's first then if people want cases they can get them :) But thanks for your support bro!

that's 10 pcb's so we're 1/4 of the way there :) Rioc let me know if you want to go on the list :)
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:06:51: .
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: rioc on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:15:51: Quote from: Dee1 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:42:00
I'd be interested in this PCB. :)

good enough... is the pcb programmable? so the arrow keys could be set as standard?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:17:27: Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:06:51
This is an interesting PCB design, and one I think definitely needs to be built as it has a place in our world. I've seen people desire this exact layout. Even though I won't be purchasing it, I do hope that it makes it off the ground.

Also, as far as dedicated arrows, if you built a winkeyless keyboard, and used a short right shift, you could use that area for dedicated arrows. It's pretty close to a nice inverted T.
That's why I've got three Pure layout boards now, those keys are always unused anyway and you get used to using them as nav keys real quick.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:17:47: Quote from: rioc on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:15:51
Quote from: Dee1 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:42:00
I'd be interested in this PCB. :)

good enough... is the pcb programmable? so the arrow keys could be set as standard?

PCB will be programmable :) As Moose says if you use 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 and a short right shift, you could use those 4 keys in the bottom right as your inverted T. But you can program the pcb however you want :)

I think I am the only person on earth who uses the right shift as a shift. All of my right shifts practically have a hole worn through them and the left is pristine. I need to change that behavior.

Massive thanks to BunnyLake for his contribution. I am very fortunate to have him as a friend and to get to work with him @ [CTRL]ALT.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:42:53: Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes.
Any chance in a notched plate?
But count me in for a PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:47:21: Quote from: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:42:53
Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes.
Any chance in a notched plate?
But count me in for a PCB.

GON doesn't do notched. Once the PCB's exist - if a CNC guru wants to design some plates I'll happily run a GB for them, but it won't be until after this is done and dusted.

Thanks for your support though :)
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: madhias on Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:01:55: Interesting, i really like the layout. Also have a SkiData set which waits for its time, and would love a 60% with F-Row (which i really need for several applications). I'm interested in a PCB!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Sent on Wed, 15 October 2014, 15:13:48: Bunny was right. Layout is kind of funky but I'm kind of into it. Thank God you can do winkeyless. I'm broke as **** right now but if my situation improves, I'd be interested in the whole shebang, probably.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:42:09: This looks pretty cool.

So will the "crystal" housing be the acrylic case like in the sample photo?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: byker on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:47:20: This is really cool, however I am sticking to topre at the moment. Good job Margo, I hope to see the gb be successful!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:21:03: Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:42:09
This looks pretty cool.

So will the "crystal" housing be the acrylic case like in the sample photo?

Similar, but not the same material - the crystal case is made of polycarb, I can't find a picture at the moment but when I do I will stick one up. It's like, cloudy, looks great with LED.

Quote from: madhias on Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:01:55
Interesting, i really like the layout. Also have a SkiData set which waits for its time, and would love a 60% with F-Row (which i really need for several applications). I'm interested in a PCB!

Thanks buddy :) I'll put you on the list!

Quote from: Sent on Wed, 15 October 2014, 15:13:48
Bunny was right. Layout is kind of funky but I'm kind of into it. Thank God you can do winkeyless. I'm broke as **** right now but if my situation improves, I'd be interested in the whole shebang, probably.

No worries bro - It will be a while anyway :) I'll put you down as a hopeful :)

Quote from: byker on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:47:20
This is really cool, however I am sticking to topre at the moment. Good job Margo, I hope to see the gb be successful!

Got to love a bit of Topre! :)
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: madhias on Thu, 16 October 2014, 04:31:59: Bluetooth would be a very nice to have. What's the difference between the NS Crystal cases and the NS AL cases? One is acrylic and the other one is aluminum? How much would the Bluetooth compatible case cost?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 04:48:30: Quote from: madhias on Thu, 16 October 2014, 04:31:59
Bluetooth would be a very nice to have. What's the difference between the NS Crystal cases and the NS AL cases? One is acrylic and the other one is aluminum? How much would the Bluetooth compatible case cost?

The bluetooth functionality is only possible using the NS Crystal enclosure - this is because it has the space for the battery which the NS AL case doesn't.

The NS AL case has a polycarb middle section, whereas the NS Crystal case is all polycarb. So slightly different to acrylic.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Elocutive on Thu, 16 October 2014, 05:43:22: Would buy if it is a high profile and doesn't have the floating keys design like most of GONs other board. Really like this idea!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: peachesenregalia on Thu, 16 October 2014, 06:56:06: I'm in for a PCB. Case is a maybe.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 06:58:31: Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 16 October 2014, 05:43:22
Would buy if it is a high profile and doesn't have the floating keys design like most of GONs other board. Really like this idea!

will be floating! Like all GONs.

Quote from: peachesenregalia on Thu, 16 October 2014, 06:56:06
I'm in for a PCB. Case is a maybe.

Thanks bro :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: kitsun8 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 09:07:09: When do you think this will be running? I'm low on funds at the moment and will be for a while since I have to study for finals :(
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:26:38: Quote from: kitsun8 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 09:07:09
When do you think this will be running? I'm low on funds at the moment and will be for a while since I have to study for finals :(

as soon as I have enough interest to get 40 pcb's paid for :) If you want in I can probably shout you a pcb until you have funds - would rather get this going and be a bit short than have it fail!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:09:51: I see a rough estimate on price for the PCB, and the Aluminum case. What about for the Crystal case?
Also, I assume this supports LEDs similar to a GON board? (Or is that a bad assumption?)

Looks fun.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:14:36: Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:09:51
I see a rough estimate on price for the PCB, and the Aluminum case. What about for the Crystal case?
Also, I assume this supports LEDs similar to a GON board? (Or is that a bad assumption?)

Looks fun.

All assumptions correct! The Crystal case, I think normally works out a few bucks cheaper than the AL but there isn't much in it - it's CNC manufactured just like the AL is.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34: I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27: Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:51:03: Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34
I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.

Thanks man :)

Yeah for sure, when it's GB stage should hopefully have pics etc.

Quote from: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27
Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks

No that's an acrylic case - the Crystal case is made of polycarb. The Crystal case I think comes in a little bit cheaper than the alu case but not by much, like just a few bucks. For example - the NERD TKL alu case is $201, the NERD Crystal TKL is $190

My understanding of the Crystal case is it's like the alu case, except its all polycarb - looks like this (pic from GON's website - thanks GON)

(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/197-thickbox_default/diffusing-polycarb-15t-plate-for-kmac1122.jpg)

I think it's polycarb top and bottom - I will ask GON next time I speak to him to confirm.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Jrwestcoast on Thu, 16 October 2014, 17:57:14: I'm interested in PCB and maybe case.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:06:20: Quote from: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:51:03
Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34
I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.

Thanks man :)

Yeah for sure, when it's GB stage should hopefully have pics etc.

Quote from: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27
Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks

No that's an acrylic case - the Crystal case is made of polycarb. The Crystal case I think comes in a little bit cheaper than the alu case but not by much, like just a few bucks. For example - the NERD TKL alu case is $201, the NERD Crystal TKL is $190

My understanding of the Crystal case is it's like the alu case, except its all polycarb - looks like this (pic from GON's website - thanks GON)

Show Image
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/197-thickbox_default/diffusing-polycarb-15t-plate-for-kmac1122.jpg)

I think it's polycarb top and bottom - I will ask GON next time I speak to him to confirm.

You think there's any way he can offer a polycab case without the visible bolts on the top, or does the case have to be designed that way?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:00:10: Quote from: Jrwestcoast on Thu, 16 October 2014, 17:57:14
I'm interested in PCB and maybe case.

thanks bro :thumb:

Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:06:20
Quote from: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:51:03
Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34
I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.

Thanks man :)

Yeah for sure, when it's GB stage should hopefully have pics etc.

Quote from: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27
Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks

No that's an acrylic case - the Crystal case is made of polycarb. The Crystal case I think comes in a little bit cheaper than the alu case but not by much, like just a few bucks. For example - the NERD TKL alu case is $201, the NERD Crystal TKL is $190

My understanding of the Crystal case is it's like the alu case, except its all polycarb - looks like this (pic from GON's website - thanks GON)

Show Image
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/197-thickbox_default/diffusing-polycarb-15t-plate-for-kmac1122.jpg)

I think it's polycarb top and bottom - I will ask GON next time I speak to him to confirm.

You think there's any way he can offer a polycab case without the visible bolts on the top, or does the case have to be designed that way?

Pretty much has to be designed that way
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Fri, 24 October 2014, 09:09:35: Bump. Come on people!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 24 October 2014, 09:23:31: interested , price will probably be too much for me though
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: nikron on Sat, 25 October 2014, 01:28:12: I'm interested, especially at a discounted assembly.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 25 October 2014, 01:30:52: Quote from: margo baggins on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:00:10
Quote from: Jrwestcoast on Thu, 16 October 2014, 17:57:14
I'm interested in PCB and maybe case.

thanks bro :thumb:

Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:06:20
Quote from: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:51:03
Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34
I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.

Thanks man :)

Yeah for sure, when it's GB stage should hopefully have pics etc.

Quote from: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27
Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks

No that's an acrylic case - the Crystal case is made of polycarb. The Crystal case I think comes in a little bit cheaper than the alu case but not by much, like just a few bucks. For example - the NERD TKL alu case is $201, the NERD Crystal TKL is $190

My understanding of the Crystal case is it's like the alu case, except its all polycarb - looks like this (pic from GON's website - thanks GON)

Show Image
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/197-thickbox_default/diffusing-polycarb-15t-plate-for-kmac1122.jpg)

I think it's polycarb top and bottom - I will ask GON next time I speak to him to confirm.

You think there's any way he can offer a polycab case without the visible bolts on the top, or does the case have to be designed that way?

Pretty much has to be designed that way

Okay. Just one more question.

Is the "crystal" housing low-profile also, and if so will there be any case options that are not low-profile?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Sat, 25 October 2014, 01:37:09: Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 25 October 2014, 01:30:52
Quote from: margo baggins on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:00:10
Quote from: Jrwestcoast on Thu, 16 October 2014, 17:57:14
I'm interested in PCB and maybe case.

thanks bro :thumb:

Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:06:20
Quote from: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:51:03
Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34
I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.

Thanks man :)

Yeah for sure, when it's GB stage should hopefully have pics etc.

Quote from: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27
Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks

No that's an acrylic case - the Crystal case is made of polycarb. The Crystal case I think comes in a little bit cheaper than the alu case but not by much, like just a few bucks. For example - the NERD TKL alu case is $201, the NERD Crystal TKL is $190

My understanding of the Crystal case is it's like the alu case, except its all polycarb - looks like this (pic from GON's website - thanks GON)

Show Image
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/197-thickbox_default/diffusing-polycarb-15t-plate-for-kmac1122.jpg)

I think it's polycarb top and bottom - I will ask GON next time I speak to him to confirm.

You think there's any way he can offer a polycab case without the visible bolts on the top, or does the case have to be designed that way?

Pretty much has to be designed that way

Okay. Just one more question.

Is the "crystal" housing low-profile also, and if so will there be any case options that are not low-profile?
I'm don't believe so but don't let that deter you, I'm going to pull my litster case apart and have some similar ones made to accommodate this. Never been a fan of exposed plates.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 27 October 2014, 06:05:59: Quote from: bueller on Sat, 25 October 2014, 01:37:09
Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 25 October 2014, 01:30:52
Quote from: margo baggins on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:00:10
Quote from: Jrwestcoast on Thu, 16 October 2014, 17:57:14
I'm interested in PCB and maybe case.

thanks bro :thumb:

Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:06:20
Quote from: margo baggins on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:51:03
Quote from: Jason_IRL on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:23:34
I think if I buy another keyboard before I buy a ring... My girlfriend my leave me. :(

I am interested.. at least for a PCB.

Will the drawings for the case/plate be availble? I have access to a CNC, so I may be able to cut the parts myself, at a later date.

Thanks man :)

Yeah for sure, when it's GB stage should hopefully have pics etc.

Quote from: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:40:27
Heya Margo, is the NS crystal case the pink case shown in the original pic? I see the price on the aluminum case, is there a price on the NS crystal case yet? thanks

No that's an acrylic case - the Crystal case is made of polycarb. The Crystal case I think comes in a little bit cheaper than the alu case but not by much, like just a few bucks. For example - the NERD TKL alu case is $201, the NERD Crystal TKL is $190

My understanding of the Crystal case is it's like the alu case, except its all polycarb - looks like this (pic from GON's website - thanks GON)

Show Image
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/197-thickbox_default/diffusing-polycarb-15t-plate-for-kmac1122.jpg)

I think it's polycarb top and bottom - I will ask GON next time I speak to him to confirm.

You think there's any way he can offer a polycab case without the visible bolts on the top, or does the case have to be designed that way?

Pretty much has to be designed that way

Okay. Just one more question.

Is the "crystal" housing low-profile also, and if so will there be any case options that are not low-profile?
I'm don't believe so but don't let that deter you, I'm going to pull my litster case apart and have some similar ones made to accommodate this. Never been a fan of exposed plates.

See this man knows what's what :D
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 06:10:49: I don't have the budget for this board right now but I just wanted to say it's great seeing new layouts in customs. I'm looking forward to seeing completed boards margo :D.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Tue, 28 October 2014, 05:01:02: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 06:10:49
I don't have the budget for this board right now but I just wanted to say it's great seeing new layouts in customs. I'm looking forward to seeing completed boards margo :D.

Thanks CPTBro :)
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:24:41: Interested in the PCB!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 05 November 2014, 07:18:58: Quote from: Sygaldry on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:24:41
Interested in the PCB!

thanks :)
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: jinq-sea on Tue, 11 November 2014, 08:17:26: I had totally forgotten about this! Since we spoke about it, it's gathered quite a bit of interest. Fingers crossed we hit the magic number... Cheers Margo!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: evolveS on Tue, 11 November 2014, 08:36:44: I'm definitely in for a pcb.
Case is a maybe.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 12 November 2014, 06:43:28: Quote from: jinq-sea on Tue, 11 November 2014, 08:17:26
I had totally forgotten about this! Since we spoke about it, it's gathered quite a bit of interest. Fingers crossed we hit the magic number... Cheers Margo!

Thanks brother :thumb:

Quote from: evolveS on Tue, 11 November 2014, 08:36:44
I'm definitely in for a pcb.
Case is a maybe.

Thanks mayn :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:22:15: Count me in for a PCB , case will probably be too much for me though .

I guess we will be able to order the electronics from either CtrlAlt or GON to avoid multiple shipments costs ?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 19 November 2014, 05:38:11: Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:22:15
Count me in for a PCB , case will probably be too much for me though .

I guess we will be able to order the electronics from either CtrlAlt or GON to avoid multiple shipments costs ?

thanks bro :)

Yeah I'm sure there will be something like that available at the time.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 28 December 2014, 12:49:24: Any updates on this ?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Wed, 28 January 2015, 04:32:10: Really hope this takes off sometime this year, this layout would solve so many problems with gaming on a 60% board. It seems like such an obvious improvement too, most people are looking to cut space from the keyboard horizontally, the little space saved by cutting off the F row on 60% boards isn't really worth it IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 04:59:55: Quote from: bueller on Wed, 28 January 2015, 04:32:10
Really hope this takes off sometime this year, this layout would solve so many problems with gaming on a 60% board. It seems like such an obvious improvement too, most people are looking to cut space from the keyboard horizontally, the little space saved by cutting off the F row on 60% boards isn't really worth it IMO.
Hopefully , when both Margo and GON become less busy , we'll see updates on it.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 29 January 2015, 13:15:05: http://www.banggood.com/Noppoo-Nano75-s-60-Cherry-MX-Red-Switch-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-966287.html
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: tristan1035 on Fri, 06 February 2015, 14:00:19: I'm definitely in for a PCB, hopefully we can get a cheaper case though.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: ImpendingxDoom on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:30:08: Wow, I hope you find enough interest. Amazing board
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:33:03: The world needs this keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Ouro on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:41:10: Quote from: bueller on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:33:03
The world needs this keyboard.

I need it too, I don't have enough keyboards to hold all my keysets :))
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: mp101 on Sat, 14 February 2015, 11:29:11: I'd be interested, ISO is preferred for me too.

could be my first build, unless I get something else from GON :D
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: rsadek on Wed, 25 February 2015, 04:05:14: I'm interested, count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Thumper_ on Thu, 12 March 2015, 03:07:53: I'm in. ISO is a really pain sometimes.. so yes yes yes yes!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 03:16:27: wow this looks really interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: DelKey on Thu, 12 March 2015, 20:16:29: I'd be in for a set with an AL case for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Lpwl on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:56:44: Margo & GON are carrying some heavy amount of work these days.

Any timeline for this project ?

Late summer this year ?
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Frizer on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:47:19: Interested, would go for the crystal housing.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:54:57: For the record this has been my dream layout to play StarCraft for years. The only thing I'd like is for a standard right shift option.

(http://i.imgur.com/5qo6aVL.jpg)

Something like this with the proper spacing between the F-rows :D

I'm down for a PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: rsadek on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:16:13: I'm interested. Is it possible to get an inverted T in the layout? It looks like it but I'm not sure.

What do you think about a smaller vertical footprint with lower F row like the one Sifo posted?

-R
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:45:23: I'm interested in this ISO ballin with f and winkeys... what would be the final price with the crystal case etc (and is it being built an option for plebs like me)?

Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:54:57
For the record this has been my dream layout to play StarCraft for years. The only thing I'd like is for a standard right shift option.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5qo6aVL.jpg)

Something like this with the proper spacing between the F-rows :D

I'm down for a PCB.

was thinking along the same lines haha
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: fknraiden on Thu, 09 April 2015, 04:08:20: interested in case if it isn't too thin like all gons stuff for handwiring.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:57:04: Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:54:57
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5qo6aVL.jpg)

Something like this with the proper spacing between the F-rows :D

I would love a board with a layout like the one in the picture above.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 03 June 2015, 07:29:19: Bumping this just to find out if this is going to happen, I did send a pm a while ago but got nothing back
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 09:11:16: ahhhhhhhhhhh what have you done baldgye, I had forget this
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: Unagi on Fri, 26 June 2015, 07:11:34: Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:54:57
For the record this has been my dream layout to play StarCraft for years. The only thing I'd like is for a standard right shift option.

Wow you aren't kidding. That layout is ideal.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: evolveS on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:27:53: Bump, I'd still really like to see this layout/project go forward somehow.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Fri, 04 September 2015, 04:52:01: Quote from: evolveS on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:27:53
Bump, I'd still really like to see this layout/project go forward somehow.

I know man, this is my dream board. Sadly Margo hasn't been on in ages and tons of people are having trouble getting their GON orders fulfilled so I don't like our chances. I'm going to try and add an F-row to the GH60 PCB to accommodate this, just waiting on the final revision PCB files to be released.

Soon™
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 04 September 2015, 05:32:15: Quote from: bueller on Fri, 04 September 2015, 04:52:01
Quote from: evolveS on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:27:53
Bump, I'd still really like to see this layout/project go forward somehow.

I know man, this is my dream board. Sadly Margo hasn't been on in ages and tons of people are having trouble getting their GON orders fulfilled so I don't like our chances. I'm going to try and add an F-row to the GH60 PCB to accommodate this, just waiting on the final revision PCB files to be released.

Soon™

margo is currently in the middle of dealing with some serious life tragedies, one very personal to him, as well as a good friend of his dying in the recent shoreham plane crash, as a result of the former he is currently out of town

i have spoken to him and hes alright just getting things back together and will be back as and when he can
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 04 September 2015, 06:00:58: Tentatively interested, depending on funds. You can put me on the maybe list.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: bueller on Fri, 04 September 2015, 06:54:44: Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 04 September 2015, 05:32:15
Quote from: bueller on Fri, 04 September 2015, 04:52:01
Quote from: evolveS on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:27:53
Bump, I'd still really like to see this layout/project go forward somehow.

I know man, this is my dream board. Sadly Margo hasn't been on in ages and tons of people are having trouble getting their GON orders fulfilled so I don't like our chances. I'm going to try and add an F-row to the GH60 PCB to accommodate this, just waiting on the final revision PCB files to be released.

Soon™

margo is currently in the middle of dealing with some serious life tragedies, one very personal to him, as well as a good friend of his dying in the recent shoreham plane crash, as a result of the former he is currently out of town

i have spoken to him and hes alright just getting things back together and will be back as and when he can

Aw man that's terrible to hear. Send my best.
Title: Re: [IC] JMargo-70 - [CTRL]ALT & GON
Post by: evolveS on Fri, 04 September 2015, 10:00:56: Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 04 September 2015, 05:32:15
Quote from: bueller on Fri, 04 September 2015, 04:52:01
Quote from: evolveS on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:27:53
Bump, I'd still really like to see this layout/project go forward somehow.

I know man, this is my dream board. Sadly Margo hasn't been on in ages and tons of people are having trouble getting their GON orders fulfilled so I don't like our chances. I'm going to try and add an F-row to the GH60 PCB to accommodate this, just waiting on the final revision PCB files to be released.

Soon™

margo is currently in the middle of dealing with some serious life tragedies, one very personal to him, as well as a good friend of his dying in the recent shoreham plane crash, as a result of the former he is currently out of town

i have spoken to him and hes alright just getting things back together and will be back as and when he can

My condolences and kindest regards for margo through this troubling time.