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Keys in the set

Shift (4 keys):  1.25, 1.75, 2.25, 2.75  B profile ("Shift" with up arrow legend)
Control (4 keys):   1.5, 1.25 B profile ("Control" legend)
Control (1 key): 1.75 full touch C profile ("Control" legend)
Control (1 key): 1.75, stepped C profile ("Ctrl" legend)
Alt (4 keys): 1.5, 1.25 B profile ("Alt" legend)
Windows (2 keys): 1.0, 1.25,  B profile (Win 8 legend)
Menu (1 key): 1.25 B profile (Win8 menu legend)
Fn (1 key) 1.0 B profile ("Fn" legend)
Tab (1 key):  1.5 D profile ("Tab" in between arrows)
Caps Lock (2 keys):  1.75 Stepped, 1.75 Full-touch C profile (Stepped one: Caps on one top, Lock below; Full touch: Caps Lock on one line)
Enter (2 keys):  ANSI 2.25 C profile, ISO C profile (ANSI key: "Enter" with arrow legend; ISO: arrow with legend)
Backspace (2 keys):  2.0 E profile, 1.5 D profile (2.0 cap: "Backspace" legend with arrow; 1.5 cap: boxed arrow design, as seen in the attached image)
\| (1 key): 1.5, D profile  (delete side print)
`~(1 key): 1.0, E profile


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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Caps
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 20:46:22 »
Sounds great Bill! Definitely interested.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 20:52:16 »
Interested.

Maybe something like a matching ESC, WASD, Spacebar, Enter, CTRL, ALT, shifts, G, and H?

All of them white on blue or something, or maybe a gradient.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 20:54:25 »
Not sure if anyone else would be interested in this, but I would like to see an f5, f6, f7, and f8 that matches the escape keys. Think it would add an interesting splash of color. 
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 20:57:10 »
Not sure if anyone else would be interested in this, but I would like to see an f5, f6, f7, and f8 that matches the escape keys. Think it would add an interesting splash of color.

This could be neat.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 20:57:25 »
Interested.

Maybe something like a matching ESC, WASD, Spacebar, Enter, CTRL, ALT, shifts, G, and H?

All of them white on blue or something, or maybe a gradient.
EK sells white on blue in the N5 color, so maybe V4.

I personally like the N7 forest green, so let me know if anyone would be interested in that!




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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:00:17 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:01:31 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
I could do that, any particular colorways you would want that in?

I plan on asking GMK if they have any other random molds that would be unique.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:03:25 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
I could do that, any particular colorways you would want that in?

I plan on asking GMK if they have any other random molds that would be unique.

Ask... ask if they have a triangle mold...
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:04:08 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
I could do that, any particular colorways you would want that in?

I plan on asking GMK if they have any other random molds that would be unique.

I'm thinking of the original white on lime.


There might be other that people would love like white on cyan, but I have no idea really. I just think the code key is amazing.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:19:49 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
I could do that, any particular colorways you would want that in?

I plan on asking GMK if they have any other random molds that would be unique.

I'm thinking of the original white on lime.
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There might be other that people would love like white on cyan, but I have no idea really. I just think the code key is amazing.
Ditto. I love that green code key so much.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:51:30 »
10/10 would want another code key :D
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 22:35:46 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
I could do that, any particular colorways you would want that in?

I plan on asking GMK if they have any other random molds that would be unique.

I'm thinking of the original white on lime.
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There might be other that people would love like white on cyan, but I have no idea really. I just think the code key is amazing.

I doubt that does GMK really have the tool for that CODE key because I believe I have seen a picture showing that the CODE key was made with a different mold than what GMK used, but I may be wrong

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 22:41:16 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 22:47:54 »
Gamer sets are so boring!
Give us CODE keys!
I could do that, any particular colorways you would want that in?

I plan on asking GMK if they have any other random molds that would be unique.

I'm thinking of the original white on lime.
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There might be other that people would love like white on cyan, but I have no idea really. I just think the code key is amazing.

I doubt that does GMK really have the tool for that CODE key because I believe I have seen a picture showing that the CODE key was made with a different mold than what GMK used, but I may be wrong

You are right, GMK does use a different mold for their code.
The text is centred, in a different font and has "Code" instead of "CODE"

Although it still isn't a bad idea.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 22:51:34 »
I'd be down for a few sets depending on colors.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 22:54:25 »
Jesus christ with all te GMK. Just cut it out. You guys will never be happy.
I'm all for more GMK but we need people to work together or none of them will meet MOQ. At the moment we've got Feng's Cyan set, Ivan's beige set, the Olivetti set which will never hit MOQ, Ctrl Alt are bringing us GMK Hyperfuse and I'm sure there's another one that I'm forgetting.

Theres only so many GMK buyers here and they only have so much money to spend, having all these buys running at the same time will fragment the buyers horribly and make meeting MOQ a *****.

Sad thing is we've been waiting on Hyperfuse for months and it's still nowhere to be found.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 23:07:21 »
Oh yeah and there's Red Alert and the beige set that intelli78 is running too.

I guess this thread probably isn't the best place to bring this up but I just feel like we really need to be more organised with planning these things out, if we had no more than one GMK buy in the invoice stage per month we could probably get them all to MOQ if the interest is there.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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[IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 23:08:54 »
Jesus christ with all te GMK. Just cut it out. You guys will never be happy.
I'm all for more GMK but we need people to work together or none of them will meet MOQ. At the moment we've got Feng's Cyan set, Ivan's beige set, the Olivetti set which will never hit MOQ, Ctrl Alt are bringing us GMK Hyperfuse and I'm sure there's another one that I'm forgetting.

Theres only so many GMK buyers here and they only have so much money to spend, having all these buys running at the same time will fragment the buyers horribly and make meeting MOQ a *****.

Sad thing is we've been waiting on Hyperfuse for months and it's still nowhere to be found.
That's why I'm doing a small set right now and it won't start until February.

Also, Photekq is working on a website that will be in English, Korean and Chinese to attract customers from the largest markets that should make hitting MOQ far easier.

However, I do agree that more coordination would be good. I think Bunny is trying to tie up some loose ends from other gbs before hyperfuse starts.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 23:13:58 »
Jesus christ with all te GMK. Just cut it out. You guys will never be happy.
I'm all for more GMK but we need people to work together or none of them will meet MOQ. At the moment we've got Feng's Cyan set, Ivan's beige set, the Olivetti set which will never hit MOQ, Ctrl Alt are bringing us GMK Hyperfuse and I'm sure there's another one that I'm forgetting.

Theres only so many GMK buyers here and they only have so much money to spend, having all these buys running at the same time will fragment the buyers horribly and make meeting MOQ a *****.

Sad thing is we've been waiting on Hyperfuse for months and it's still nowhere to be found.
That's why I'm doing a small set right now and it won't start until February.

Also, Photekq is working on a website that will be in English, Korean and Chinese to attract customers from the largest markets that should make hitting MOQ far easier.

However, I do agree that more coordination would be good. I think Bunny is trying to tie up some loose ends from other gbs before hyperfuse starts.
I'm really hoping that website helps, we could do some amazing things if Kbdmania, DT and GH worked together.

I'm still holding out hope that Uniqey from GMK will solve all these problems but I'm not getting my hopes up too much.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 02:01:32 »
I'd love to collect matching colored esc&enter keys!

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 02:52:57 »
I kind of want keys that would replace the arrows keys I have for fn, and the two 1x windows keys on eagle/vipers.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 03:01:22 »
I am always up for some GMK goodies, but Bueller raises a good point.

All these split up GBs don't really help to reach MOQ.

Concerning the Mini Sets I'd be interested in matching Enter keys :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 03:04:07 »
Definitely interested!

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 04:30:43 »
Isn't ivan doing a gmk spacebar buy right now, with his reverse beige set? How will this be different?
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 07:30:34 »

Isn't ivan doing a gmk spacebar buy right now, with his reverse beige set? How will this be different?
It looks to me like his gb has random spacebars where you don't chose the color and this would allow you guys to chose exactly what you want. Please correct me if I am wrong.


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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 11:25:26 »

Isn't ivan doing a gmk spacebar buy right now, with his reverse beige set? How will this be different?
It looks to me like his gb has random spacebars where you don't chose the color and this would allow you guys to chose exactly what you want. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Nope, you're right.

But will we need 250 of EACH spacebar to meet MOQ?
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 11:46:37 »
If you want specific color then they will likely make order 250 for each.
When there is just some little thing, like few key in some color I don't see how that will be disruptive to MOQ on full sets and etc. Its just like an add on run separate, no biggie.
GMK have lot of interesting legend, best to find some off old obscure model and send photo to ask. It seems to be easier for them to find things if they have seen what you are asking for. Be prepared for some thing only to be available in one specific row/size combination though.
CODE does exist at GMK, but only in A profile. The B profile version of it was lost to time. Only have the Code version in B profile.
Pretty much impossible to go wrong with Esc, Enter, WASD and/or cursors in various color combos... unless make something ugly like V1 on 3B :))

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 14:59:48 »
Cyan spacebar to match the GMK Dolch color pack color from Ivan's recent buy

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 15:06:13 »
If you want specific color then they will likely make order 250 for each.
When there is just some little thing, like few key in some color I don't see how that will be disruptive to MOQ on full sets and etc. Its just like an add on run separate, no biggie.
GMK have lot of interesting legend, best to find some off old obscure model and send photo to ask. It seems to be easier for them to find things if they have seen what you are asking for. Be prepared for some thing only to be available in one specific row/size combination though.
CODE does exist at GMK, but only in A profile. The B profile version of it was lost to time. Only have the Code version in B profile.
Pretty much impossible to go wrong with Esc, Enter, WASD and/or cursors in various color combos... unless make something ugly like V1 on 3B :))
Thanks for the insight Ivan.

I think having an A profile CODE key would be good because Ivan's current gb and Photekq's upcoming one will include A profile bottom row. I'll do some snooping and see if there are any random legends that look cool. Also, if anyone finds any random caps they think would be cool let me know! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 16:13:52 »
Purple spacebar and white on purple WASD and arrows.

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 16:52:26 »
I'm probably in for whatever ends up happening here.   :thumb:

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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 19:10:09 »
Count me in for sure. This sounds exciting! Up for most any colors really. :)

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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 19:17:36 »
Light blue space bar and ESC.

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« Reply #34 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 19:20:11 »
Interested.

Maybe something like a matching ESC, WASD, Spacebar, Enter, CTRL, ALT, shifts, G, and H?

All of them white on blue or something, or maybe a gradient.
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:46:45 »
Very interesting Red ESC with white legend. But following Ivan said, That 's seem can't happen :(

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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:25:31 »
Very interesting Red ESC with white legend. But following Ivan said, That 's seem can't happen :(

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:42:03 »
I would like two keys. `~ and |\ in the same dark color as the recent dolch buy so I can have a symmetric board. Would love that.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 01:44:52 »
I would like two keys. `~ and |\ in the same dark color as the recent dolch buy so I can have a symmetric board. Would love that.

I am very, very interested in these keys as well!

I strongly prefer the symmetrical look, but there are probably not enough people who are willing to buy these extra keys...


Same goes for Feng's Cyan Set by the way :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:50:53 »
Colourful Stepped Caps Locks!

I'd order so many...

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 09:12:14 »
I would like two keys. `~ and |\ in the same dark color as the recent dolch buy so I can have a symmetric board. Would love that.

I am very, very interested in these keys as well!

I strongly prefer the symmetrical look, but there are probably not enough people who are willing to buy these extra keys...


Same goes for Feng's Cyan Set by the way :)

It kills me that no one does symmetry sets when there seem to be a pretty substantial subset who would love them.  Instead of adding two keys that heighten the appeal, it feels like it's always a ton of keys added that only two or three people really want or use instead.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 09:32:44 »
I would like two keys. `~ and |\ in the same dark color as the recent dolch buy so I can have a symmetric board. Would love that.

I am very, very interested in these keys as well!

I strongly prefer the symmetrical look, but there are probably not enough people who are willing to buy these extra keys...


Same goes for Feng's Cyan Set by the way :)

It kills me that no one does symmetry sets when there seem to be a pretty substantial subset who would love them.  Instead of adding two keys that heighten the appeal, it feels like it's always a ton of keys added that only two or three people really want or use instead.

Indeed!

You can see me bring up that point in every GMK interest check out there, but it's always neglected :(

Ivan doesn't do it in his GBs, Feng didn't add the keys in his Cyan Set - not sure how the upcoming sets like Klaxon GMK, GMK Olivetti and GMK Triump Adler will turn out...


The worst thing is that I am a sucker for GMK keycaps so I bought the sets anyway despite this little flaw :p


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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 09:36:28 »
I'm up for doing a buy for the matching keys for the base set.

Would you guys just want Dolch or other colors as well?

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 09:36:54 »
I would like two keys. `~ and |\ in the same dark color as the recent dolch buy so I can have a symmetric board. Would love that.

I am very, very interested in these keys as well!

I strongly prefer the symmetrical look, but there are probably not enough people who are willing to buy these extra keys...


Same goes for Feng's Cyan Set by the way :)

+1 :D I wouldn't mind the symmetrical look as well :D
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 09:48:42 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 10:11:29 »
I'm up for doing a buy for the matching keys for the base set.

Would you guys just want Dolch or other colors as well?

I currently only care about Dolch, but I would buy other colors as well if it increased the chances of us getting them.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 10:18:10 »

I'm up for doing a buy for the matching keys for the base set.

Would you guys just want Dolch or other colors as well?

I currently only care about Dolch, but I would buy other colors as well if it increased the chances of us getting them.
I was thinking maybe a bundle of Dolch, cyan and classic beige.

If the leaders of other upcoming gbs say they won't include the matching keys we can add those in also.

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:15:45 »

I'm up for doing a buy for the matching keys for the base set.

Would you guys just want Dolch or other colors as well?

I currently only care about Dolch, but I would buy other colors as well if it increased the chances of us getting them.
I was thinking maybe a bundle of Dolch, cyan and classic beige.

If the leaders of other upcoming gbs say they won't include the matching keys we can add those in also.

Ya, thats what I was thinking too.  This way we will have a better chance at hitting the MOQ...

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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:53:43 »

I'm up for doing a buy for the matching keys for the base set.

Would you guys just want Dolch or other colors as well?

I currently only care about Dolch, but I would buy other colors as well if it increased the chances of us getting them.
I was thinking maybe a bundle of Dolch, cyan and classic beige.

If the leaders of other upcoming gbs say they won't include the matching keys we can add those in also.

I think that's a great idea! This way there is a real chance it can reach MOQ  :thumb:


Another idea I had was doing a GMK Purple Add On to make Ivan's 60% kit compatible for a fullsize board.

The kit should contain the `~ and |\, F5-F8, the Nav Cluster and the numpad mods in WhiteOnPurple plus purple spacebars!

The original GB had ~400 orders, so I think it's realistic that 250 of those are interested in this add on kit:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0



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Re: [IC] GMK Spacebars and Other Mini Sets
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 14:47:46 »

I'm up for doing a buy for the matching keys for the base set.

Would you guys just want Dolch or other colors as well?

I currently only care about Dolch, but I would buy other colors as well if it increased the chances of us getting them.
I was thinking maybe a bundle of Dolch, cyan and classic beige.

If the leaders of other upcoming gbs say they won't include the matching keys we can add those in also.

I think that's a great idea! This way there is a real chance it can reach MOQ  :thumb:


Another idea I had was doing a GMK Purple Add On to make Ivan's 60% kit compatible for a fullsize board.

The kit should contain the `~ and |\, F5-F8, the Nav Cluster and the numpad mods in WhiteOnPurple plus purple spacebars!

The original GB had ~400 orders, so I think it's realistic that 250 of those are interested in this add on kit:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0

I don't think it's that realistic. While people do love purple, that's almost 60% of people who originally ordered. I'm having doubts about the success of a matching/add-on kit.
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