Shadovved's Group Buy Directory

[romevi]

I was under the impression that this would already fit on an 1800.. Guess I was wrong. That's what I'm planning on using it for so yeah I think that should be added. hah

That would mean more molds. We're already struggling to add the ISO option as it is. It's not like we're making a new set here; Shadovved simply is doing a GB to import already-made sets for a lower cost.

The molds are already made. Since these are dyesubs, it is only a matter of printing the correct legend. It would indeed be nice if it could be offered as an addon like the coloured windows keys.

That makes it easier.

[Karura]

Yeah, seriously the 1800 keys are just something that will have to be dyesubbed, nothing too cray, and especially if another EnjoyPBT reseller is already doing it, it wouldn't be as if we'd be making a larger order.

It'd be easier for everyone to make a larger batch in one go.

[ika]

Finally submitted my order. Hopefully I'll still need them by the time I get these, since I'll probably have to sell some boards to pay for them!

[jshane]

Considering that this group buy will likely be buying tooling for a company to use for future profitable endeavors, they should do absolutely anything requested of this group.

I don't believe it is any more unreasonable to think they can accommodate any request made of them than expecting us to buy moulding with no guarantee of return on investment to those that spend the extra money to make that happen... When you invest in a companies infrastructure or invest in tooling for a new product line for said company, you should get a written agreement of dividends on that product/service or a written agreement that your tooling will not be used for the companies gain outside of your orders.

In lieu of this, those that want ISO and are okay with paying for a company to open up a new product line should be willing to split that $8k (or whatever) expense between them and not among the entire group. Those same ISO customers are not offering anything to the benefit of the group other than more financial burden and the prospect of a bad business decision.

The very least that can be done here is offer flexibility in our requests as they will be making a profit either way. If they can't do it profitably, find someone else that can.

[Hanni]

In lieu of this, those that want ISO and are okay with paying for a company to open up a new product line should be willing to split that $8k (or whatever) expense between them and not among the entire group. Those same ISO customers are not offering anything to the benefit of the group other than more financial burden and the prospect of a bad business decision.

This.

[HoffmanMyster]

I was under the impression that this would already fit on an 1800.. Guess I was wrong. That's what I'm planning on using it for so yeah I think that should be added. hah

That would mean more molds. We're already struggling to add the ISO option as it is. It's not like we're making a new set here; Shadovved simply is doing a GB to import already-made sets for a lower cost.

The molds are already made. Since these are dyesubs, it is only a matter of printing the correct legend. It would indeed be nice if it could be offered as an addon like the coloured windows keys.

It might not be quite so simple, since we don't know their exact workflow.  Maybe they have a single mold for 1u caps that pumps out in multiples that result in a complete set, so adding more caps disrupts this process.  Or maybe they mold by row/cluster, I don't know.  Maybe the dyesubbing is done in batch and adding more legend/key options would require building a new machine/jig.

I'm not justifying the refusal to add these caps, but it might not be as simple as "pull from the bucket of 1u caps and dyesub it", as implied.

[Blackhawk]

I was under the impression that this would already fit on an 1800.. Guess I was wrong. That's what I'm planning on using it for so yeah I think that should be added. hah

That would mean more molds. We're already struggling to add the ISO option as it is. It's not like we're making a new set here; Shadovved simply is doing a GB to import already-made sets for a lower cost.

The molds are already made. Since these are dyesubs, it is only a matter of printing the correct legend. It would indeed be nice if it could be offered as an addon like the coloured windows keys.

It might not be quite so simple, since we don't know their exact workflow.  Maybe they have a single mold for 1u caps that pumps out in multiples that result in a complete set, so adding more caps disrupts this process.  Or maybe they mold by row/cluster, I don't know.  Maybe the dyesubbing is done in batch and adding more legend/key options would require building a new machine/jig.

I'm not justifying the refusal to add these caps, but it might not be as simple as "pull from the bucket of 1u caps and dyesub it", as implied.

You're completely right, it might not be as easy as I made it out to be. I do however believe that EnjoyPBT already offers the caps in question, based on this post on kdblab http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=3344105

[HoffmanMyster]

I was under the impression that this would already fit on an 1800.. Guess I was wrong. That's what I'm planning on using it for so yeah I think that should be added. hah

That would mean more molds. We're already struggling to add the ISO option as it is. It's not like we're making a new set here; Shadovved simply is doing a GB to import already-made sets for a lower cost.

The molds are already made. Since these are dyesubs, it is only a matter of printing the correct legend. It would indeed be nice if it could be offered as an addon like the coloured windows keys.

It might not be quite so simple, since we don't know their exact workflow.  Maybe they have a single mold for 1u caps that pumps out in multiples that result in a complete set, so adding more caps disrupts this process.  Or maybe they mold by row/cluster, I don't know.  Maybe the dyesubbing is done in batch and adding more legend/key options would require building a new machine/jig.

I'm not justifying the refusal to add these caps, but it might not be as simple as "pull from the bucket of 1u caps and dyesub it", as implied.

You're completely right, it might not be as easy as I made it out to be. I do however believe that EnjoyPBT already offers the caps in question, based on this post on kdblab http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=3344105

Wellp.  There ya go.  xD  Thanks for the link!

[McPwned]

Is the white used in the "US -- Blue White Black" set the same as ghost white?

[KaminKevCrew]

Is the white used in the "US -- Blue White Black" set the same as ghost white?

Nope.

[ika]

I think I asked this already and not sure if I got an answer but is there any chance for blank single keys or key packs? I need a row 2 1.5u mod key in Gateron black and I'm not sure what the best way to get it would be.

[Shadovved]

I think I asked this already and not sure if I got an answer but is there any chance for blank single keys or key packs? I need a row 2 1.5u mod key in Gateron black and I'm not sure what the best way to get it would be.

When I am complete with the GB and asking for replacement caps for the sets, you can drop me a PM then and we can discuss...

[redskull]

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I love my cyrillic set :)

what keyboard is that sir?

[R1N3]

invoicing when?

[Bromono]

I would love to see a 6u spacebar, so we can use these on HHKB with mx sliders.

edit: nvm there is. Got to buy a set now.

[Shadovved]

invoicing when?

Feb 10+

[R1N3]

invoicing when?

Feb 10+

Confirmed. TY <3

[Karura]

invoicing when?

Feb 10+

1800?

[nubbinator]

I've been thinking I need a set to go on my work keyboard, but I'm having a hard time choosing.  Currently the board has the green GMK mods from EK, but I also have the blue and red.  I'm leaning toward OG or one of the Cyrillic.

[romevi]

I've been thinking I need a set to go on my work keyboard

I'm leaning toward OG or one of the Cyrillic.

You'd put Cyrillic at work? Would people ask if you knew Russian?

[Shadovved]

invoicing when?

Feb 10+

1800?

No reply from enjoypbt yet...

[MrRooks]

I too was under the impression that these would fit 1800 style like the previous Gateron buy did.

[Auxo]

Regarding the ISO sets, would it be unreasonable to separate the ISOs from the actual kit, assuming that they are able to be made without complications? since i dont know how manufacturers process their stuff, i cant say that i have a clear idea of whether or not it is feasible

[Patchwrks]

Ordered

[gadzkun]

ordered too. and hope iso kit would be canceled.
hate to say this, but i must cancel my order if iso cost would added to main kit.
im on a tight budget. and its not lower cost keyset anymore.

[Shadovved]

Regarding the ISO sets, would it be unreasonable to separate the ISOs from the actual kit, assuming that they are able to be made without complications? since i dont know how manufacturers process their stuff, i cant say that i have a clear idea of whether or not it is feasible

I realised. This would fit on an 1800. They have the short shifts and the 1u 0 & 00 keys.....

[Shadovved]

The +5 1x keys for the 1800: R1 Del/End/Pgdn, R2 -, R3 + will cost +$10

I doubt everyone wants it so I might only open for those who want it?

[Jumie]

ordered too. and hope iso kit would be canceled.
hate to say this, but i must cancel my order if iso cost would added to main kit.
im on a tight budget. and its not lower cost keyset anymore.

I second this..

[Karura]

The +5 1x keys for the 1800: R1 Del/End/Pgdn, R2 -, R3 + will cost +$10

I doubt everyone wants it so I might only open for those who want it?

Shadovved, that is great news. Not everyone wants ISO or 1800, so please bundle them separately.

That said, can you please make this an option? I know a lot of people want 1800 keys. Will they only come in black?

I'd add a few sets to my orders.

[pomk]

Could you also bundle ANSI separately, or would someone here like to buy mine off at the price of one ISO kit? Not everyone wants an all American layout. 

[Shadovved]

The +5 1x keys for the 1800: R1 Del/End/Pgdn, R2 -, R3 + will cost +$10

I doubt everyone wants it so I might only open for those who want it?

Shadovved, that is great news. Not everyone wants ISO or 1800, so please bundle them separately.

That said, can you please make this an option? I know a lot of people want 1800 keys. Will they only come in black?

I'd add a few sets to my orders.

I think they only come in grey...gotta check with them.

Most likely the ISO will come separately or will be cancelled...I only have interest for 60+ sets currently.

That's 92 bucks a set

EDIT: 1800 (5 keys) available in all colours, however I am going to do only a Y/N selection per order basis to make my life easier.

[terminallytrill]

Shadovved I feel like you have taken so many requests already for this group buy and I think you are the ****ing man. Not a lot of group buy holders are as attentive and accommodating... lots of respect. 

[Jin]

Ordered for red and black russian keycap

[Karura]

The +5 1x keys for the 1800: R1 Del/End/Pgdn, R2 -, R3 + will cost +$10

I doubt everyone wants it so I might only open for those who want it?

Shadovved, that is great news. Not everyone wants ISO or 1800, so please bundle them separately.

That said, can you please make this an option? I know a lot of people want 1800 keys. Will they only come in black?

I'd add a few sets to my orders.

I think they only come in grey...gotta check with them.

Most likely the ISO will come separately or will be cancelled...I only have interest for 60+ sets currently.

That's 92 bucks a set

EDIT: 1800 (5 keys) available in all colours, however I am going to do only a Y/N selection per order basis to make my life easier.

When you say all colours, do you mean keycap base colour (light grey, beige, etc), or did you mean dyesub colour?

I would love to get it in Cyan (Cyan RU), Black, Red, etc. Depending on the set I'm getting. Also is it possible to get it for Black on Black?

[sitch]

Hi, you can get red russian for the same price as other set? cause from his taobao website it's like almost 1.7 times the price compared to other colors...

[Shadovved]

The +5 1x keys for the 1800: R1 Del/End/Pgdn, R2 -, R3 + will cost +$10

I doubt everyone wants it so I might only open for those who want it?

Shadovved, that is great news. Not everyone wants ISO or 1800, so please bundle them separately.

That said, can you please make this an option? I know a lot of people want 1800 keys. Will they only come in black?

I'd add a few sets to my orders.

I think they only come in grey...gotta check with them.

Most likely the ISO will come separately or will be cancelled...I only have interest for 60+ sets currently.

That's 92 bucks a set

EDIT: 1800 (5 keys) available in all colours, however I am going to do only a Y/N selection per order basis to make my life easier.

When you say all colours, do you mean keycap base colour (light grey, beige, etc), or did you mean dyesub colour?

I would love to get it in Cyan (Cyan RU), Black, Red, etc. Depending on the set I'm getting. Also is it possible to get it for Black on Black?

I mean all variants. If EnjoyPBT meant what they said.

Hi, you can get red russian for the same price as other set? cause from his taobao website it's like almost 1.7 times the price compared to other colors...

Well. I could charge you more if that's what you are asking. Idm )

[beltet]

Anyone know how high these keycaps are on the front?
Thinking of ordering tape for my labeling machine to make a custom US international set.

[ATXTider]

Anyone know how high these keycaps are on the front?
Thinking of ordering tape for my labeling machine to make a custom US international set.

They're pretty close to cherry profile.  I haven't busted out a ruler, but 10pt font should work no problem.  12 might work too.

[Diokhan]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox). 

[Auxo]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox).

It'll fit the White Fox EXCEPT for the right Shift key and the Backspace, in which case you'd need a nonstandard shift, though if you get the CMY/RGB modifiers you should be good to go for the shift...
the backspace, youre on your own for that one

[Pieminister]

I appreciate that ANSI users don't want to have to pay for ISO keys.

As an ISO user, I would be super stoked to be able to use these beautiful keysets and would be happy to pay more.

[swimmingbird]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox).

It'll fit the White Fox EXCEPT for the right Shift key and the Backspace, in which case you'd need a nonstandard shift, though if you get the CMY/RGB modifiers you should be good to go for the shift...
the backspace, youre on your own for that one

but the sets do come with a 1.75 shift (that would be fine for the white fox)

you don't need to buy anything else to make this fit the whitefox (of course if you care about legends and profiles on your 75% keys such as end, home, pg up, pg down they will be mismatched)

[Diokhan]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox).

It'll fit the White Fox EXCEPT for the right Shift key and the Backspace, in which case you'd need a nonstandard shift, though if you get the CMY/RGB modifiers you should be good to go for the shift...
the backspace, youre on your own for that one

but the sets do come with a 1.75 shift (that would be fine for the white fox)

you don't need to buy anything else to make this fit the whitefox (of course if you care about legends and profiles on your 75% keys such as end, home, pg up, pg down they will be mismatched)

That is cool! I knew about the 75% keys.
What about the backspace?
I think it's a different size.

[swimmingbird]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox).

It'll fit the White Fox EXCEPT for the right Shift key and the Backspace, in which case you'd need a nonstandard shift, though if you get the CMY/RGB modifiers you should be good to go for the shift...
the backspace, youre on your own for that one

but the sets do come with a 1.75 shift (that would be fine for the white fox)

you don't need to buy anything else to make this fit the whitefox (of course if you care about legends and profiles on your 75% keys such as end, home, pg up, pg down they will be mismatched)

That is cool! I knew about the 75% keys.
What about the backspace?
I think it's a different size.

depends on which layout you went for - on the true fox the backspace's default position is on the \| key (which is R2 profile 1.5u size) and on all other layouts its the standard R1 profile 2U size.

Just use the \| key that's included and forgot about it

[Diokhan]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox).

It'll fit the White Fox EXCEPT for the right Shift key and the Backspace, in which case you'd need a nonstandard shift, though if you get the CMY/RGB modifiers you should be good to go for the shift...
the backspace, youre on your own for that one

but the sets do come with a 1.75 shift (that would be fine for the white fox)

you don't need to buy anything else to make this fit the whitefox (of course if you care about legends and profiles on your 75% keys such as end, home, pg up, pg down they will be mismatched)

That is cool! I knew about the 75% keys.
What about the backspace?
I think it's a different size.

depends on which layout you went for - on the true fox the backspace's default position is on the \| key (which is R2 profile 1.5u size) and on all other layouts its the standard R1 profile 2U size.

Just use the \| key that's included and forgot about it

Cool! thanks for the info

[swimmingbird]

Would this fit a whitefox as well? (true fox).

It'll fit the White Fox EXCEPT for the right Shift key and the Backspace, in which case you'd need a nonstandard shift, though if you get the CMY/RGB modifiers you should be good to go for the shift...
the backspace, youre on your own for that one

but the sets do come with a 1.75 shift (that would be fine for the white fox)

you don't need to buy anything else to make this fit the whitefox (of course if you care about legends and profiles on your 75% keys such as end, home, pg up, pg down they will be mismatched)

That is cool! I knew about the 75% keys.
What about the backspace?
I think it's a different size.

depends on which layout you went for - on the true fox the backspace's default position is on the \| key (which is R2 profile 1.5u size) and on all other layouts its the standard R1 profile 2U size.

Just use the \| key that's included and forgot about it

Cool! thanks for the info

No worries man 

[Pieminister]

There isn't a short shift included in the CMYK set is there?

[swimmingbird]

There isn't a short shift included in the CMYK set is there?

define short shift

[xondat]

Cyrillic or no cyrillic, that's the real question.

[swimmingbird]

Cyrillic or no cyrillic, that's the real question.

brah