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Title: [IC] GMK Vamp - GB DATES ANNOUNCED!
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:47:42
GB Thread LIVE: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118753.0





GMK Vamp
Nov 4 - Dec 2


(https://i.imgur.com/BQxvH6H.jpg)

GMK Vamp is inspired by a character from visual novel from 2001 and 2021,
and various fighting game spinoffs
and a certain unrelated franchise's 7th anniversary celebration

Kitting

Base
(https://i.imgur.com/hKVKe1R.jpg)
The 135-key base kit offers compatibility for standard form factor keyboards, from full-size down to 60%, with bottom row and column options.

Extension
(https://i.imgur.com/ZFnWj0c.png)
The 20-key extension kit expands compatibility to more boards, including F13 based boards, 40s, Alice, HHKB, 1800, 660, and more.
It has been kept pretty small so it won't be super expensive or anything.

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/pFXd95X.jpg)
The 14-key novelty kit contains some very normal and very generic shapes such as:
Generic cube, generic earth symbol, generic flower, and generic moon.
Also, a very generic 3 letter word.
This is just a normal cat face. Very normal.
Generic now looks like an extremely strange word to you.

Designed by the GOAT OCM.

Colors
All 3 colors are custom colors from the RAL Design, RAL Effect, and RAL Classic series.

(https://i.imgur.com/z9YAjii.png)
The WS2 is for reference

The red used will not need to be colormatched - The reference red is from GMK Alter.
The white used will not need to be colormatched - The reference white is from GMK Muted/2.

The blue is custom and will need to be matched.
I have purchased A6-sized paper sheets of both colors, and closely related RAL plastic plates during the design of the set.
These will easily help with any plastics matching as well as having given me a better idea of what I can expect from GMK.
Colors will not be disclosed at this time, as to at least give even a tiny attempt at deterring any would-be cloners.

Vendors

US - Switchmod Keyboards
EU - Oblotzky Industries
CA - Deskhero
OCE - DailyClack
SEA - iLuMKB
UK - Prototypist
KR - SwagKeys
CN - ZFrontier

There will be day 1 discounts for some regional vendors, but it may not be a sure bet.

Pricing

Preliminary USD Pricing

Base Kit - $110 USD
Extension Kit - $35 USD
Novelty Kit - $30 USD

Artisans

Official, sold during GB - HIBI - $50
(https://i.imgur.com/VPZgNE0.png)
Unofficial - PrimeCaps

Deskmat - $20 USD

(https://i.imgur.com/HYm497h.png)

Sample Image - real image will be lighter in color, with no blur effect. Physical sample en route to me, will be updated when appopriate.


Interest Form (https://forms.gle/S1u3899TZWE4joVQ9)

If you are interested in the set, please fill out this form.
If you would like to suggest changes to the kit in any form, please do so in the geekhack thread. Many times, I am receptive to changes if there is enough demand and time.

More Renders

(https://i.imgur.com/EgsLjS9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0lH8Tke.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AV2Duzw.png)

Thanks
Folks in my discord for ideas and having to put up with me
eggplant man for his inability to draw a normal looking hand
OCM for being so based
Kingk22 for renders
granny skirt for being based

Discord, for updates, etc. (https://discord.com/invite/8TkjXTr)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:48:05
Slightly moved away from the info dump that is the main post.

Interest Form (https://forms.gle/S1u3899TZWE4joVQ9)

If you are interested in the set, please fill out this form. I am actively monitoring this thread and this form for responses as a threshold on whether I should pursue this project. Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Qwapa on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:48:51
Whole lotta red  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:49:16
very thocky keyset
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: kyuut on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:51:10
good luck with ic krelbit from switchmod keyboards
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: armintehgreat on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:51:29
good cat
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:51:56
good luck with ic krelbit from switchmod keyboards

thank you kyuut from red soil land
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: ankit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:54:52
hi krelbit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: MSA_Vision on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:56:50
Very pog
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: dededecline on Mon, 19 September 2022, 11:56:59
I really like the colors here.

A couple kitting suggestions for extensions:
* Since 40s is not in base anyways, inclusion of R2 esc key and R3 1.75u enter would be nice but not super necessary
* I'd suggest 2x 3u over the 6u off-centered bar
* If you don't do 2x 3u you could probably remove the 1u unless you really want it for Alice
* Since you're putting HHKB 2x 1.5u Supers in Extensions you may as well add a second 1u alt key

GLWIC/GB, will probably cop
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Bunn3y on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:00:06
Burunyuu
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: JomiKarloz on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:00:26
gurenyuu
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: KuroTheCrazy on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:03:56
Can we get a Kohaku set instead
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:05:12
Can we get a Kohaku set instead

mid maid
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Soums on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:08:11
Very nice looking set, excited to see how this turns out  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:09:48
I really like the colors here.

A couple kitting suggestions for extensions:
* Since 40s is not in base anyways, inclusion of R2 esc key and R3 1.75u enter would be nice but not super necessary
* I'd suggest 2x 3u over the 6u off-centered bar
* If you don't do 2x 3u you could probably remove the 1u unless you really want it for Alice
* Since you're putting HHKB 2x 1.5u Supers in Extensions you may as well add a second 1u alt key

GLWIC/GB, will probably cop

I'd like to support broad 1800 and tsangan compatibility so I would say 6u OC stays over 2x 3us.

I'll think about the 1.75u enter, but R2 esc probably not, I'll have a running tally of keys that are up for consideration to be added or moved and towards the end make decisions, lest I end up with a slow creep of added keys and suddenly the extension kit is in the $40 range, which I don't want.

I do want the 1u bar for alice. It's neat and feels nice.

As for the alt, yeah that was an oversight; if I added the 1.5u supers for support of hhkb it would be odd to not have that second alt - I'll add it to the ext kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:19:34
Not guaranteed, but I think you can make the extension kit pretty substantially less expensive by moving the Alice B and the 00 key out, thereby cutting down the numbers of plastic in that kit as a whole from three to two.

Alice B can just live in base, and 00 can either live in base or just fade off into the sunset, as its use cases are becoming more limited.

Oh, and if the point of the offset 6u is to support old-school 1800s, you probably want a second 1u Ctrl in the extension kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:22:37
Not guaranteed, but I think you can make the extension kit pretty substantially less expensive by moving the Alice B and the 00 key out, thereby cutting down the numbers of plastic in that kit as a whole from three to two.

Alice B can just live in base, and 00 can either live in base or just fade off into the sunset, as its use cases are becoming more limited.

I generally think it's fair to put the extra b wherever the bars are - if one wanted physical compatibility for an alice they could just use a numpad key.

00 is slightly limited in its use, correct, but my next project is a fullsize keyboard  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:25:10
Not guaranteed, but I think you can make the extension kit pretty substantially less expensive by moving the Alice B and the 00 key out, thereby cutting down the numbers of plastic in that kit as a whole from three to two.

Alice B can just live in base, and 00 can either live in base or just fade off into the sunset, as its use cases are becoming more limited.

I generally think it's fair to put the extra b wherever the bars are - if one wanted physical compatibility for an alice they could just use a numpad key.

00 is slightly limited in its use, correct, but my next project is a fullsize keyboard  :D

Right, but for cost optimization, eliminating extra colors from child kits does seem to make a difference in terms of efficiency.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: anatworkaccount on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:27:42
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: MrBingo on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:33:13
oWo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:40:06
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: yuuyashun_ on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:45:09
cope, seethe, mald
and very normal cat face indeed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: FinalEleven on Mon, 19 September 2022, 12:47:39
normal cat face
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 14:03:34
cope, seethe, mald
and very normal cat face indeed

normal cat face

idk why ya'll are pointing out the very normal cat face
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Fraaaan on Mon, 19 September 2022, 14:57:39
ne normal cat face ISO novelty? no? ok..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Lysol_ on Mon, 19 September 2022, 15:54:47
any chance for macro support in extension or 4 extra keys for xt macro novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 16:02:51
any chance for macro support in extension or 4 extra keys for xt macro novelties?

I'm not sure about XT - I've never seen much actual vocal support for it, maybe 1-2 people per set, and another 1-2 people on discord. It doesn't seem to make up that much of a crowd and I'm worried that adding it would just saddle folks with costs for a minority of a minority.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 19 September 2022, 18:49:43
were we droppin
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Hinkerbottom on Mon, 19 September 2022, 19:53:04
You are going to Brazil!

GLWIC Krillfish
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 19 September 2022, 22:10:23
Turnout on the Interest Form was pretty good - I am fairly certain that I will go forward with running this set, I will decide sometime in the next couple days for sure.

If you guys have any other suggestions, mentioned or unmentioned, please let me know!

Again, if you are interested in the set I'd ask you to keep filling out the interest form (https://forms.gle/LQsJ33sCLdej7rz18) - you can sign up for email updates, but that is purely optional.

Thank you!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: suishibe on Tue, 20 September 2022, 03:26:15
cute
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: discourse and group on Tue, 20 September 2022, 13:58:23
love the set and the inspiration, just don't understand why you are using a custom white when gmk has 7 stock options
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 20 September 2022, 16:27:28
love the set and the inspiration, just don't understand why you are using a custom white when gmk has 7 stock options

none of them fit right :)

Taking a closer look at the situation - most likely I am open to switching to a previously used custom white that also fits the profile of what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 20 September 2022, 22:47:53
love the set and the inspiration, just don't understand why you are using a custom white when gmk has 7 stock options

none of them fit right :)

Taking a closer look at the situation - most likely I am open to switching to a previously used custom white that also fits the profile of what I'm looking for.

when i'm trying on clothes that are sized small to xxxxl one of them should fit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: mariajose1197 on Wed, 21 September 2022, 13:38:43
Love it! owo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: JQ27 on Thu, 22 September 2022, 09:44:21
ANSI novelty reminds me of Zoidberg
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 22 September 2022, 22:16:37
Hey all! Some news:

I am going through with this set! Thanks everyone for your interest.
To the extension kit I have added:
1x 1u alt
1x 1.75u r3 enter.
Colors will remain as is, and the rest of the kitting, while it has time to change, will also remain as is. If you still have ongoing suggestions please let me know, it is very far from too late.

I have submitted a Request for Quote to GMK.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZFnWj0c.png)

This is a new render of the extension kit; I will also update the main post with this.

If you'd like email updates for when we go through with the most important announcements (I'll limit it to just one, when we have all of the information), you can still fill out the interest form. Hope to have updates for you soon!

interest form (https://forms.gle/LQsJ33sCLdej7rz18)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: berto on Mon, 26 September 2022, 05:46:59
i thought this was going to be a carti keyset and now i am dissapointed. cool set tho glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 05 October 2022, 11:07:40
Hey all! Pricing came in.

I will be taking some time to contact other vendors about now, as well as figuring out what MOQs and stuff I'd like to price at.
Since it's a smaller base, I'd like to aim for 100 usd, but we'll see.

Thanks for your patience all!

Edit: 100's just a bit shy of an irresponsible margin :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: MMJ1999 on Fri, 07 October 2022, 04:02:56
cute set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: codog on Fri, 07 October 2022, 21:21:22
I'm in for the whole set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 08 October 2022, 12:20:25
Major update 1:

New vendors added
EU: Oblotzky Industries
CA: Deskhero
OCE: DailyClack
SEA: iLuMKB
UK: Prototypist

Artisan collabs added
Official; sold with keyset - HIBI
Unofficial - PrimeCaps

Deskmat:
art by
https://www.instagram.com/02mimimart/
This will be shown when ready

Preliminary USD pricing for keycaps decided, still subject to change but this is generally what I am shooting for.
Base Kit - $110 USD
Extension Kit - $35 USD
Novelty Kit - $30 USD

If you are interested in this set, please fill out the interest form to get a single email when all (100%) of the concrete details have been decided.
https://forms.gle/YcpUM5zdyXe4QA7p8

Otherwise you can also join the Switchmod Keyboards Discord for much more quick and minor updates. (https://discord.com/invite/8TkjXTr)

Update Adendum: KR - Swagkeys has been added as a vendor
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: 43percentemo on Wed, 12 October 2022, 12:02:05
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: lvl2cow on Fri, 14 October 2022, 16:06:14
8)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: crookey on Wed, 19 October 2022, 08:51:32
Cute and cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 20 October 2022, 10:44:37
we have deskmat art (this is a sample)

(https://i.imgur.com/HYm497h.png)

physical sample on order, let me know your thoughts

real deskmat will have lighter colors, not be blurred, etc. Hope to show soon

this art was done by umiko at https://www.instagram.com/02mimimart/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 24 October 2022, 11:27:41
Hi all - Here are the full details on this buy, or as much as we have right now.

All changes have been reflected in the main post of this IC - If you are interested in a concise read, you can just scroll all the way up.

This buy is running from November 4 to December 2.

US pricing will stay static with the pricing that was given earlier in this thread, namely:

Base Kit - $110 USD
Extension Kit - $35 USD
Novelty Kit - $30 USD

The deskmat will be $20.

A HIBI Cap will be available - I hope to have the model posted by the end of the week. It will be priced at $50 USD.

All regional vendors are still on board, and I'm reaching out to zfrontier for CN.

US - Switchmod Keyboards
EU - Oblotzky Industries
CA - Deskhero
OCE - DailyClack
SEA - iLuMKB
UK - Prototypist
KR - SwagKeys

There will be day 1 discounts for some regional vendors, but it may not be a sure bet.


Thank you for your patience! We hope to make this a successful buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp - GB DATES ANNOUNCED!
Post by: arr1 on Mon, 24 October 2022, 14:16:08
Looking forward to it! Great job
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp - GB DATES ANNOUNCED!
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 27 October 2022, 16:29:35
Small update -

HIBI Cap has been drafted up - This is just a draft, we will have production renders soon.

ZFrontier, a CN Vendor has been added.

(https://i.imgur.com/VPZgNE0.png)

Just about a week to go til we start! Thanks for the support and input on geekhack, instagram, and discord, all.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vamp - GB DATES ANNOUNCED!
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 03 November 2022, 18:58:04
GB Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118753.0

Closing this one thanks