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Offline NumberJ

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 22 October 2011, 23:38:13 »
probably interested in an esc key and RGB set. Located in the US.
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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 01:25:37 »
Quote from: 7bit;436786
This is what we demand:
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I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but I don't see anything even approaching this level of complexity happening for this buy.

By my tally, we have 17 people so far interested in something like 30 red Escapes, and 11 or 12 people interested in as many RGB sets.  Three mentioned ISO left Shifts, and a couple seem interested in short right Shifts for Choc Minis.  There has been some talk about including a yellow Meta key with an as yet undetermined legend.
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Offline RColinTaylor

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 01:29:37 »
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I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but I don't see anything even approaching this level of complexity happening for this buy.

By my tally, we have 17 people so far interested in something like 30 red Escapes, and 11 or 12 people interested in as many RGB sets.  Three mentioned ISO left Shifts, and a couple seem interested in short right Shifts for Choc Minis.  There has been some talk about including a yellow Meta key with an as yet undetermined legend.

17 people for 30 escapes is pretty good in one day of an Interest Check.
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 03:05:03 »
The real thing is actually more detailed than the mockup I posted. That's not doubleshots, though.
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« Reply #54 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:01:40 »
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I don't know where the Cherry star come from. I suspect it's not a star but a cursor that Sixty designed it for this board! http://keyboardporn.com/mx-switch/g80-3500-hau---cherry-mouseboard/


The "Cherry star" was in fact originally an authentic Cherry key used in their G80-2000, a battleship featuring a display and a lot of fantastic looking keys nobody remembers what they were for - inter alia the "Cherry star".

I had one now owned by sixty, who made fantastic pictures of it:
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Offline kbdfr

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« Reply #55 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:05:02 »
By the way, I'm not sure Cherry would appreciate very much their logo being replicated for sale. As far as I am informed, it's not just unfair, it's illegal as well.
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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:22:26 »
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I think people are trying to turn this buy into something far more complex than Hashbaz had in mind when he decided last night to throw out the interest check.


Not at all, but you can't just pick the most popular stuff and leave the rest to Round4!

Quote from: calavera;436915
How about you split it into two general categories, make it simple.

choice #1 : ESC only
choice #2 : RGBY for Filco/Poker/Leopold...etc (all 1.25)
choice #3 : RGBY for others (1.5 modifiers + single ALT, short right shift for Noppoo choco mini, EU-size shift)

Something like that, see how many are interested in each.


Perfect idea!
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Offline Hakhu

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« Reply #57 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:26:50 »
I'd be interested in 4-5 Esc keys. I live in Germany.

So far into the interest check I guess I'm too late to suggest doing White on Red as well as Black on Red. :(
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #58 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:45:25 »
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By the way, I'm not sure Cherry would appreciate very much their logo being replicated for sale. As far as I am informed, it's not just unfair, it's illegal as well.

Well, in that case all Moogle kit 2 owners should go to jail for replicating the windows logo! Also, the Cherry key has been replicated before:
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Offline N8N

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« Reply #59 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:49:33 »
Both are actually valid points.  I think if MK2 came to M$'s attention they would object, not because of the use of the Windows logo, but because of the use of an outdated Windows logo on a flat key.

Because I *like* Cherry or at least approve of their products, (there is a huge difference - I think Volkswagens are great cars, especially the ones from the mid-80's, but at least as of when I sold my last one, VWoA was populated by combusting anuses) I'd feel obligated to contact them regarding the use of their logo.

That didn't keep me from buying several of the Moogle kits (I'm anxiously awaiting them BTW,) but on the flip side, I'd gladly replace that goofy key with "Super," "Meta" or just a blank.
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #60 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 06:52:46 »
I think it's fair use as long as you don't resell the keycap claiming it's an original Cherry product. Then again, I'm no lawyer!
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« Reply #61 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:21:31 »
SP definitely cares about trademark infringement.  The TeamLiquid buy had to get permission before their order was accepted.  I think the Windows key might be a little different because it's on most every keyboard that is produced nowadays.  SP certainly has permission to produce them.  If we tried to do the Cherry logo and SP knew what it was, they would require us to talk to Cherry.

I'm not crazy about doing the Cherry logo anyway, or the star.  If we do end up doing Y in addition to RGB, I think I would prefer to do the generic diamond shape.  "Meta" might be okay, but again I'm not in love with it, and it would mean more work for cycloverid.
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« Reply #62 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:23:10 »
Quote from: Hakhu;437243
I'd be interested in 4-5 Esc keys. I live in Germany.

So far into the interest check I guess I'm too late to suggest doing White on Red as well as Black on Red. :(

Nobody is talking about black on red.  See the image of the red Escape in the OP.  Or do you mean you'd like to add black on red?
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #63 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:30:08 »
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I'm not crazy about doing the Cherry logo anyway, or the star.  If we do end up doing Y in addition to RGB, I think I would prefer to do the generic diamond shape.  "Meta" might be okay, but again I'm not in love with it, and it would mean more work for cycloverid.

Diamond is also fine for me, I just hope there will be a yellow key! :)
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« Reply #64 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:32:05 »
Quote from: 7bit;437241
Not at all, but you can't just pick the most popular stuff and leave the rest to Round4!

My thoughts are that we pick the most popular stuff, and the rest doesn't need to happen at all.  Were you planning to use cycloverid's legends in R4?  I think sinis has been overreacting with his R4 guilt evangelizing, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes, or genuinely hurt R4.
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« Reply #65 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:39:02 »
Quote from: hashbaz;437265
I'm not crazy about doing the Cherry logo anyway, or the star.  If we do end up doing Y in addition to RGB, I think I would prefer to do the generic diamond shape.  "Meta" might be okay, but again I'm not in love with it, and it would mean more work for cycloverid.

On second thought, the idea with this buy is to mesh well with vintage Cherry 2-shots.  That kind of argues for sticking with the Windows logo.  What does everyone think?
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Offline delgo

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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:39:28 »
Esc+RGB
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Only buying RGB if short left shift (ISO) is available though. Interested in mooglekits and yellow meta key as well.
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« Reply #67 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 08:52:53 »
Quote from: hashbaz;437280
On second thought, the idea with this buy is to mesh well with vintage Cherry 2-shots.  That kind of argues for sticking with the Windows logo.  What does everyone think?

I guess most people using original Cherry doble shots will already have (or want) a moogle kit, and thus a windows key matching with their keys. Non-windows users like me, on the other hand, might want an alternative system key.
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Offline h0ngE

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« Reply #68 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 09:41:03 »
I'd be interested in 3x Esc Keys and 2x RGB Keysets.
I'm from Germany.
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Offline calavera

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« Reply #69 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 11:04:54 »
I still think my suggestion is best. Easier for EVERYONE. :)
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Offline Hakhu

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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 12:18:13 »
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Nobody is talking about black on red.  See the image of the red Escape in the OP.  Or do you mean you'd like to add black on red?

That's what I meant. I guess I should have put that the other way round.
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Offline dvdhsu

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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 12:21:42 »
Interested in both the RGB and the ESC key. Maybe even two sets of each.

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Offline godofdeath

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« Reply #72 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 12:29:15 »
if its rgb it wont be black right?
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« Reply #73 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 12:38:53 »
Quote from: Grond;437273
Diamond is also fine for me, I just hope there will be a yellow key! :)

I think yellow on grey is an excellent colour combination: My arrow keys are excellent.

I may or may not be interested, depending on how the details shake out.
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Offline blainchen

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« Reply #74 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 15:08:53 »
I'm out.
« Last Edit: Mon, 24 October 2011, 06:59:41 by blainchen »
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Offline hashbaz

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« Reply #75 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 17:55:03 »
Quote from: calavera;437335
I still think my suggestion is best. Easier for EVERYONE. :)

Basically everyone is falling into the subgroups you posted anyway.
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Offline Mysteric

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« Reply #76 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 18:14:35 »
Definitely interested in an Esc key and the RGB kit for my UK ISO Filco (Whichever modifiers they are)
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Offline godofdeath

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« Reply #77 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 18:47:54 »
if its rgb it wont be white on black right?
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« Reply #78 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 19:12:40 »
Quote from: hashbaz;437584
Basically everyone is falling into the subgroups you posted anyway.

I'm just saying if you had a poll or something similar and have people vote for it, it would have been easier to tally up which set was more feasible.
I figured you'd want to pick the most voted kit for a smaller and quicker group buy.

Anyways, I would be in for 2~3 ESC's and 1~2 RGBY sets depending on the content.
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Offline RColinTaylor

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« Reply #79 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 19:15:38 »
Oh, the big thing for me at this point I think is the colors in the RGB set. Are they going to be the same as Aggiejy or something different?
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« Reply #80 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 20:01:28 »
I suspect most of us would want a darker blue.
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Offline RColinTaylor

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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 20:04:27 »
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I suspect most of us would want a darker blue.

I dunno; I am a huge fan of Aggiejy's light blue.
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« Reply #82 on: Sun, 23 October 2011, 22:46:23 »
Second day is drawing to a close (PDT).  We added around 12 Escapes and 10 RGB kits, bringing the totals up to around 40 and 20, respectively.  Lots of Europeans are not specifically mentioning ISO, so I'm unsure about what they want/need.  I think calavera is right -- we need a poll or specific categories to declare.  I'll post something to that effect soon.
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Offline Grond

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« Reply #83 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 04:20:29 »
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Oh, the big thing for me at this point I think is the colors in the RGB set. Are they going to be the same as Aggiejy or something different?

I'd like the colors to be as faithful as possible to the original Cherry RGB.
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As for the yellow, the one chosen for the Rebel RGBY kit looks fine to me.

EDIT: This must be the reason why I love RGBY more than just RGB! :)
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« Last Edit: Mon, 24 October 2011, 07:36:04 by Grond »
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« Reply #84 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 09:36:03 »
Quote from: Grond;437860
I'd like the colors to be as faithful as possible to the original Cherry RGB.
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As for the yellow, the one chosen for the Rebel RGBY kit looks fine to me.

EDIT: This must be the reason why I love RGBY more than just RGB! :)
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If you want them close to the original, for Aggiejy's set the green would need to be a bit lighter, the blue would need to be a bit darker, and the red is really close but just a a bit off. That SNES controller is disturbingly close to the real dea.
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« Reply #85 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 09:53:04 »
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That SNES controller is disturbingly close to the real dea.

Both the SNES and the original Cherry RGB were released the early 90s, isn't it? Too bad the controller is not mechanical! :)
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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 09:57:10 »
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Both the SNES and the original Cherry RGB were released the early 90s, isn't it? Too bad the controller is not mechanical! :)

It is if you play with a SNES emulator.
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« Reply #87 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 11:01:39 »
The original SNES joypad used to feel good, though. It may have ****ty rubber domes, but I still like it. It also proved to be extremelyy durable. Nintendo sure used to do things right back in the day!
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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 11:50:15 »
Quote from: Grond;437860
EDIT: This must be the reason why I love RGBY more than just RGB! :)
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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 15:17:04 »
I'm interested in a couple (3-4) ESC and probably as many RGB modifiers.
I would love ISO shift and yellow meta.
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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 15:39:37 »
I'll take one Esc and one RGB(Y), and if ISO will be available then I'll take an another Esc and an another ISO-RGB(Y) set.
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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 15:59:03 »
i'd probably take around 5 Esc keys, maybe more depending on price.
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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 16:09:07 »
I've updated the OP with more detailed instructions regarding left-hand Shift.  Please state whether you (A) are fine with regular ANSI 2.25x left Shift, (B) must have ISO left Shift to participate, or (C) would prefer ISO left Shift but will still participate without it (or (D) some other combination of need/want).

I don't think I've seen anyone asking for anything other than regular 1.25x Ctrl/Alt/Win, which is good.
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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 16:19:19 »
(B)
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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 16:19:24 »
Interested in 1-2 Esc, and perhaps 1 RGB set, shipped to USA. Whether it works out or not, thanks for putting this together, hashbaz!
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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 16:25:34 »
I'd probably take around 5 Esc keys, maybe more depending on price. ship to USA
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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 22:09:16 »
Yeah I want 1 Esc key and one RGB set (B)
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« Reply #97 on: Mon, 24 October 2011, 22:14:16 »
2X Esc

Not sure about how good RGB looks on a keyboard yet!  But, I might want some later if I make up my mind.
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« Reply #98 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 02:23:15 »
End of third day.  We lost blainchen, but gained a lot of Escapes.  Totals now stand at around 60 Escapes and 30 RGB sets.

I've sent Melissa a preliminary email to let her know about the buy and ask about splitting the order between ISO and ANSI Shifts.
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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 03:14:02 »
Maybe if we use the same shade of green as aggiejy for the shiftes, some of the people that bought an RGB in that GB may be interested in getting a ISO left shift. Of course the legend will look a bit different in this case, but it will be hard to notice, because the ISO shift is so short there's only room for the arrow.
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