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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:14:54 »
Never had an SA set, but I'm very interested in trying it out. Wish there was a meetup in my area so I could try before I buy. Oh well, I'll just stick with my cherry and DCS profile peasantry

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 14:37:57 »
DCS is the only true format #2013

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 20:49:01 »
And if you're going to talk about SA, why is it always sculptured?

Why not uniform?  What's wrong with uniform?
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 21:35:45 »
Why not uniform?  What's wrong with uniform?

^ I don't like typing on sculptured SA - uniform is best and final form.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 16 October 2017, 03:39:16 »
SA is Love.
SA is Life.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 16 October 2017, 11:52:33 »
I like uniform SA on 60% keyboards. I prefer fully sculptured on TKL and larger.

What gnaws at me is the fact that the above (inconsistency) makes absolutely no sense, and yet that's what I like.  :confused:

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 17 October 2017, 02:47:33 »
I'm not sure about SA, my first "high-profile" keyset would be Matt3o's MT3  :p

one thing for sure that is "they look great!"  ;D

I like uniform SA on 60% keyboards. I prefer fully sculptured on TKL and larger.

What gnaws at me is the fact that the above (inconsistency) makes absolutely no sense, and yet that's what I like.  :confused:

aesthetic  :))

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 17 October 2017, 11:50:41 »
Maybe. But aesthetically speaking, I feel fully sculptured looks best, on any keyboard, even 60% boards.

I have everything from DSA to fully sculpted SA on my various 60% boards and I find I like the uniform SA the best. It doesn't look the best, but it feels the best to me for some reason, even more than DSA. I mean, they are both uniform in profile, but I like the tallness of the SA better I guess.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:48:48 »
Oddly enough SA caps are what got me into this hobby, but after actually using them I found that I really only liked SA sets for their looks, so I currently only have one set myself (Chocolatier). Overall SA profile seems more like a novelty to me than something I would type on all the time like Cherry profile. I don't really notice the wobble too much myself, but like someone else already mentioned the surface area of the caps feels too small/flat to me. I keep trying to like the feel because I'm absolutely in love with the aesthetic, but I keep going back to my boards with GMK sets on them.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:59:30 »
I tried typing on an HHKB over the weekend, but the pronounced side edges of its cylindrical keycaps were unnerving. Give me spherical tops, please!

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:59:23 »
I tried typing on an HHKB over the weekend, but the pronounced side edges of its cylindrical keycaps were unnerving. Give me spherical tops, please!
Only spheres I need are dsa.

But hhkb stock caps are bae.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 12:05:08 »
But hhkb stock caps are bae.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't fit a BAE on an HHKB.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 12:23:40 »
But hhkb stock caps are bae.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't fit a BAE on an HHKB.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 13:14:35 »
But hhkb stock caps are bae.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't fit a BAE on an HHKB.  :rolleyes:
You known what I mean pls

That might not be a safe assumption.

I suppose it is my fault that I'm not up on all the slang that's hip this year.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 19 October 2017, 21:00:29 »
after using SA for like 2 days I have a credible opinion

SA still sucks

they pretty tho

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 02:29:31 »
Uniform SA is the best profile I've tried so far, I haven't tried sculpted SA yet though

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 04:51:46 »
Uniform SA is the best profile I've tried so far, I haven't tried sculpted SA yet though
Sounds like you've only tried SA

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:03:53 »
Uniform SA is the best profile I've tried so far, I haven't tried sculpted SA yet though
Sounds like you've only tried SA

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I've tried cherry profile since I have GMK carbon and I like SA better

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:18:26 »
Uniform SA is the best profile I've tried so far, I haven't tried sculpted SA yet though
Sounds like you've only tried SA

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I've tried cherry profile since I have GMK carbon and I like SA better

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:36:12 »
I like SA's aesthetics, however I do notice the hand fatigue coming from cherry's and dsa. I don't know that it deserves its popularity, it is a bummer that many of the GBs are in SA.

However, I don't type for a living(and when I have to for work, it's on a dell.), so that's probably why I'm willing to put up with it. Waiting for a GMK set I like to try that out.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 06:15:02 »
Uniform SA is the best profile I've tried so far, I haven't tried sculpted SA yet though
Sounds like you've only tried SA

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I've tried cherry profile since I have GMK carbon and I like SA better

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 11:50:29 »
I've noticed that SA sets sell more and more units each time they come up on MassDrop, and I almost never see anyone selling off their SA sets. Given the strong likelihood that an SA set will fetch more than its original GB price in the aftermarket, I can't help but wonder what this says about the profile. If it sucks so bad, why are so many people buying them and keeping them? Surely the funds they could acquire by re-selling them would be put to better use towards keycaps they would actually like and use.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 11:51:44 »
I've noticed that SA sets sell more and more units each time they come up on MassDrop, and I almost never see anyone selling off their SA sets. Given the strong likelihood that an SA set will fetch more than its original GB price in the aftermarket, I can't help but wonder what this says about the profile. If it sucks so bad, why are so many people buying them and keeping them? Surely the funds they could acquire by re-selling them would be put to better use towards keycaps they would actually like and use.
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:38:11 »
I've noticed that SA sets sell more and more units each time they come up on MassDrop, and I almost never see anyone selling off their SA sets. Given the strong likelihood that an SA set will fetch more than its original GB price in the aftermarket, I can't help but wonder what this says about the profile. If it sucks so bad, why are so many people buying them and keeping them? Surely the funds they could acquire by re-selling them would be put to better use towards keycaps they would actually like and use.

Well, if you don't frequent reddit's MechMarket you probably wouldn't see them being sold, especially here on GH as very people here seem to like SA.  Over on MechMarket though, there are SA sets for sale just as often as any other profile.
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 14:09:18 »
Interesting.

Maybe that's where I'll find a set of SA Retro for sale...

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 14:14:09 »
Why you want brown and burgundy

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 14:22:29 »
Why you want brown and burgundy

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 14:23:50 »
Why you want brown and burgundy

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 15:26:20 »
I really like rich earth tone colors in general.

But in this particular case, I have a Plum Nano 75 that I painted the case tan, and I think it would look killer with an all-brown PETSCII set.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 11:06:39 »
Question for people who like flat profile like DSA and unsculpted SA -- are you quite tall or do you use a standing desk? The only way I can imagine actually preferring unsculpted is if you really sit/stand *over* your keyboard. If you sit with your elbows at 90 degrees or less, I can only imagine sculpted being better.

I love how SA sounds on Topre and think it looks amazing, but I don't like typing on high profile sets.

Plus everyone knows AEK is the OTG

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 12:00:51 »
The tallness of keycaps has never been a factor when it comes to comfort or other faux ergonomic concerns for me. I've easily adapted to every type of keycap I've ever typed on and never had a "problem" with any of them, regardless of how I am sitting. The human body is extremely adaptable, and I'd venture the differences between keycap profiles are inconsequential to the adaptive capabilities of our neuromuscular system.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 12:03:05 »
I have SA, SDA profile and cherry profile but I work with SA because it's like you say, it's my own feel  :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 12:05:04 »
I have SA, SDA profile and cherry profile but I work with SA because it's like you say, it's my own feel  :cool: :cool: :cool:

Get another feel

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 12:09:25 »
I have SA, SDA profile and cherry profile but I work with SA because it's like you say, it's my own feel  :cool: :cool: :cool:

Get another feel
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 13:28:20 »
I have SA, SDA profile and cherry profile but I work with SA because it's like you say, it's my own feel  :cool: :cool: :cool:

Get another feel
I know, but SA makes a huge difference  :thumb:

Try ePBT for even better feels
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 13:49:49 »
But ePBT doesn't have the right colors!

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 20:50:19 »
Question for people who like flat profile like DSA and unsculpted SA -- are you quite tall or do you use a standing desk? The only way I can imagine actually preferring unsculpted is if you really sit/stand *over* your keyboard. If you sit with your elbows at 90 degrees or less, I can only imagine sculpted being better.

I love how SA sounds on Topre and think it looks amazing, but I don't like typing on high profile sets.

Plus everyone knows AEK is the OTG

I prefer uniform profile SA over DSA.  Maybe it is the slippery feel of SA, I don't know.

I am fairly tall, but don't feel that I loom over my keyboards.

I also have the keyboard feet folded in so the keyboard sits flat on the desk.
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 21:01:51 »
I also have the keyboard feet folded in so the keyboard sits flat on the desk.

I've been doing that as well. I find that the combined angle of the case (without feet extended) with the sculptured keycap angle(s) of SA provides all the natural tilt I need for comfortable typing.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 16 November 2017, 13:32:45 »
To be fair, you have to have a very high WPM to understand the SA keysets. The feel is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical typing, most of the keystrokes will go over a typical keeb'ers head. There's also MiTo's superior designing, which is deftly woven into SA's characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from K3's cap making, for instance. The SA fans understand this stuff; they have the typing capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these keysets, to realize that they're not just "a keyset"- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike SA keysets truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the feeling of clackery in MiTo's existencial catchphrase "MiTo signing off, goodbye Geekhack," which itself is a cryptic reference to the terror that SA owners had to live in, during the "DCS time". I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Pulse's genius design unfolds itself under their fingers. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Godspeed tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the clackers' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 WPM of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 16:55:52 »
Love my SA

I'd hate it if it weren't for my wooden wrist rest, but it seems most people here are using rests. What don't y'all like about it? My caps don't feel particularly wobbly. At the end of the day, my FC660C probably felt better overall, but I couldn't customize that thing like I can my WASD Code 60, so I took a little bit of a form over function hit, but I like the feel of my current keeb just fine

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 16:59:49 »
Love my SA

I'd hate it if it weren't for my wooden wrist rest, but it seems most people here are using rests. What don't y'all like about it? My caps don't feel particularly wobbly. At the end of the day, my FC660C probably felt better overall, but I couldn't customize that thing like I can my WASD Code 60, so I took a little bit of a form over function hit, but I like the feel of my current keeb just fine


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« Reply #91 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 17:44:07 »
<insert dank meme>

I actually know the girl in that meme. Legit not sure what point you're trying to make. You hate SA because...?

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 18:15:02 »
<insert dank meme>

I actually know the girl in that meme. Legit not sure what point you're trying to make. You hate SA because...?

Because I'm an *******, and i dont like reddit or meme profiles

Also this is kind of a joke post

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 22:00:03 »
SA is just more photogenic.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 30 November 2017, 11:50:42 »
I wonder how many SA haters have actually used them. And how many still have SA sets they can't bear to part with for some bizarre reason.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #95 on: Thu, 30 November 2017, 20:43:27 »
I wonder how many SA haters have actually used them. And how many still have SA sets they can't bear to part with for some bizarre reason.  :rolleyes:

I have purchased 2 SA sets. I have subsequently given away 2 SA sets. I have purchased >10 GMK sets and have parted with none. Sooooo.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #96 on: Sun, 03 December 2017, 21:35:33 »
I wish I could put it on everything I have :)

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 00:11:08 »
I like the look of SA. I do wish someone would make the same thick smooth/shiny plastic for a DCS set of the same quality. I also wish they would do something more like a "row 3" shaped full set or maybe a little less sculpted. Hitting those R1 skyscrapers are odd.
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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 01:22:04 »
I like the look of SA. I do wish someone would make the same thick smooth/shiny plastic for a DCS set of the same quality. I also wish they would do something more like a "row 3" shaped full set or maybe a little less sculpted. Hitting those R1 skyscrapers are odd.
Godspeed Cockpit is 2-2-3-3-3, which has been quite nice to use for now.

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Re: Can we talk about SA
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 11:07:10 »
Oh nice. I have Godspeed but its been patiently waiting for my M65a.  :))
-Dana