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Offline wuzle

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« on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 12:37:54 »
Updated

I thought I would try and add some keys for Linux users to the Round 3 doubleshot order. They are white-on-black 1.25 width keys. Meant to replace the 'Windows' or Super key.

GNOME

Derived from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gnomelogo.svg

LINUX

Derived from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tux.svg

To order, just follow the instructions in Round 3, and use the following Order-IDs:

GNOME
LINUX

Attached are the svg files for these keys, feel free to edit the keys, there is always room for improvement.
« Last Edit: Wed, 23 March 2011, 06:11:26 by wuzle »

Offline Fwiffo

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 12:40:00 »
I'd get a couple.
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 12:46:27 »
Great idea!
I'd take 4.
A tux logo of course, anything else is way too specific.

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 12:48:03 »
white on black? I'd be down for 2

For anyone else who's interested, my poor attempt at getting a Apple '⌘' Command going:  http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=16000

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 13:18:05 »
Just taking a quick look around. Tux might be tough since it is a pretty intricate shape.

Gnome, would probably be the easiest:
http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/36536-gnome.svg

Debian is probably too thin:
http://www.debian.org/logos/openlogo-nd.svg

A simple Linux Mint could be doable with a little modification:
http://linuxmint-art.org/CONTENT/content-files/82193-mint-logo.svg

Offline kachaffeous

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 13:42:17 »
I'm down for at least 2.  Ripster has posted a tux key before, not sure if it is a doubleshot though.

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 14:01:27 »
You had forgotten this:


I would like to use it as a save button for the function row.

Just I'm afraid it is as double-shotable as the Trollface ...
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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 14:31:59 »
I fear it would look horrible (both the GNU and Tux).
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Offline wuzle

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 14:38:02 »
I agree, gnu and tux would not look good. Or it would require an artistic touch to make them look good which I don't have.

What about the gnome or linux mint logos?

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 16:20:49 »
Here is an svg for a gnome 1.25 key. Hopefully I did it right.

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 08:24:46 »
So how do I add this key to the official voting?

If I have time I might take a crack at a tux key, although I am beginning to like the gnome key, it is growing on me.

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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 09:25:18 »
Tux logo would be nice.

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 09:37:16 »
I would be in for a tux or gnu logo even if they didnt look so great. Not interested in a gnome logo key though.

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 09:41:10 »
I'm off for holly days until Sunday 20th March 2011!

The vote-system will work without me. Just send your order lists to me, 7bit_vote.

You will get some statistics from time to time.

Don't ask 7bit or me any questions during that time. We will not answer!

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Offline wuzle

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 10:01:50 »
Here is an attempt at a white on black Tux replacement for the 1.25 windows key:



I started with the following svg:
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Tux.svg

Attached is my modified svg for the keycap. If someone wants to fix it up, please do.

Offline DaemonRaccoon

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 11:50:52 »
wuzle, that actually looks pretty nice. It's the Tux signal!
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 15:02:26 »
The Gnome foot.. ha! No way.

I would like the diamond symbol, if there is going to be a key for it at all. I'd rather use keyboards with 1.5 wide keys and no Windoze keys.

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 19:39:14 »
I updated the first post with the Tux and Gnome keys. I think we should start voting on them to figure out interest. So to order, just PM 7bit_vote

LINUX
GNOME
« Last Edit: Fri, 11 March 2011, 06:29:33 by wuzle »

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #18 on: Fri, 11 March 2011, 06:24:54 »
Uh oh, did I screw up?

Quote

Naming convention:
If you invent a new kit, please find a good Order-ID-name. It should not interfere with current names and thould not be too long, but must be at least 5 chars long. If you introduce kits with more than one color, name them with the color following the title!


Ok, I am going to switch TUX to LINUX. Hope this doesn't make things more confusing. If you already voted for TUX, just PM the following to 7bit_vote:

TUX 0
LINUX

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 11 March 2011, 09:39:11 »
is this possible to get it in 1.0 size , i mean does anybody wants a normal one size linux key ?
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Offline wuzle

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 11 March 2011, 11:39:19 »
Quote from: gilgam;309873
is this possible to get it in 1.0 size , i mean does anybody wants a normal one size linux key ?


I think you would have to pick which row you would want the key in, I believe each row has a different key profile. You could setup a Order-ID and see how many votes you get.

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 14 March 2011, 12:52:15 »
Here are  the voting results so far:

LINUX 8
GNOME 2

I think we need to make it to 25 for them to be $5/key. So lets get some more votes!

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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 14 March 2011, 15:16:13 »
Do these come in pairs or do you need to vote for two of them?
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Offline wuzle

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 14 March 2011, 15:18:35 »
No, they do not come in pairs. So to replace both Windows keys, you need to vote for 2.

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 14 March 2011, 16:10:52 »
yesss...
i'm in for tux and gnu.
how do I vote on GNU???

GNU #

??
I def want to add to my order


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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 14 March 2011, 16:12:27 »
I'm in for:

LINUX 2
GNOME 2
GNU 4

if available.. will send in my votes now


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Offline wuzle

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 14 March 2011, 16:15:55 »
GNU seemed just to difficult to do given the requirements of a double shot key. ie, small features aren't allowed. If you want to take a crack at the svg, go for it. It seemed too daunting to me.

So, there is no GNU key at the moment unless someone comes up with a compliant svg.

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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 16:14:09 »
Although it pains me as a Vim user, the GNU Emacs project has a stylized gnu logo. Maybe it could serve as a base?
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Offline wuzle

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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 13:14:24 »
We are getting there, the current vote totals are:

LINUX 14
GNOME 8

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 16:48:20 »
Just sent my vote.  Wasn't real sure what the subject was supposed to be.

Offline wuzle

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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 21 March 2011, 14:33:34 »
Current vote totals:

GNOME 10
LINUX 23

Looks like LINUX will get made,  just need 2 more to reach the $5 each threshold. The GNOME key still needs some help.

Also, anyone have suggestions on how to improve the LINUX key? I am not 100% happy with it, and might take another crack at improving it.

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 21 March 2011, 14:53:04 »
This version would look much better:


However, the Gnome foot is perfect and both SVG-s are technically OK.
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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 21 March 2011, 16:49:30 »
just ordered 3 more LINUX

p.s. I like the newest Linux SVG


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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 21 March 2011, 17:56:59 »
Quote from: 7bit;315374
This version would look much better:
Reversed B&W Tux image

However, the Gnome foot is perfect and both SVG-s are technically OK.
Sure it looks better on a white background, but we can't have that here because it's meant to be printed on a grey key. Just try to reverse black and white again and see how it looks then.
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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 21 March 2011, 20:01:39 »
Quote from: JBert;315486
Sure it looks better on a white background, but we can't have that here because it's meant to be printed on a grey key. Just try to reverse black and white again and see how it looks then.


What about this:


We need an SVG of the white stuff in the graphic!
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 21 March 2011, 23:12:43 »
I wish you could see Tux's arm, wing?  Its hard to see em in the pics.

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 03:47:45 »
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I wish you could see Tux's arm, wing?  Its hard to see em in the pics.


Maybe the arms should go sideways. I will post a pic later.

Maybe we should do 2 versions, one in black on white and one in white on black!

The OP's version looks like a Ghost Tux!

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 07:02:17 »
I kinda like the white-on-black and the feet being seperated from the body. Anyway, here is another iteration:


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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 07:33:35 »
Quote from: wuzle;315829
I kinda like the white-on-black and the feet being seperated from the body. Anyway, here is another iteration:

Show Image


Go away with your ghost tux!

I want this:


Please!

Someone must make me an SVG!!!

PS: The circle can be a bit closer around the Tux (0.2mm).
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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 08:59:15 »
Yes, the one with the circle is best!
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 16:08:14 »
Ok, here is a version with the white circle and with eyes.

TuxKey3.svg


Also, one with the gaps between the feet:

TuxKey4.svg

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 16:49:59 »
TuxKey4.svg is the best so far.
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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 16:57:35 »
Dito. Tuxkey4 is the best of those.

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 17:05:33 »
Not a fan of the gaps. It just messes up things, especially at the bottom.
I don't think the foot geometry is more important than the look overall.
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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 17:09:02 »
+1 on TuxKey4.svg - looks great to me


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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 17:16:50 »
Quote from: Fwiffo;316229
TuxKey4.svg is the best so far.




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« Reply #46 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 18:01:33 »
I'm all for the gaps to make the feet stand out, but now the feet look awkwardly big...
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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 18:20:41 »
TuxKey4 is perfect.
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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 06:12:38 »
TuxKey4 seems to be the most popular. I updated the first post to show the current versions of the keys.

The current vote totals:
LINUX 41
GNOME 11

Looks like they are both going to be made!
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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 07:04:33 »
Is there any way we could get them not in 1.25 size, but 1.0? I have a POS kb I'd use it on. I'd order 8.
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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 07:43:57 »
Quote from: urlwolf;316633
Is there any way we could get them not in 1.25 size, but 1.0? I have a POS kb I'd use it on. I'd order 8.


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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 09:13:06 »
So if i order the linux key i'm getting the tuxkey4.svg right?

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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 09:59:14 »
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So if i order the linux key i'm getting the tuxkey4.svg right?


Yes

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« Reply #53 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 15:15:33 »
Quote from: 7bit;316641
OK!

send 7bit_vote a message:

TUX 8
What row are they supposed to go on? I don't know if he can use 8 Escape keys...
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« Reply #54 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 14:45:24 »
From the mother thread:
Quote from: 7bit;321496
Hi folks!

I got a response from SP that the following SGV-files need to be modified to meet production requirements:

TUXKEY4.svg: feet must be 0.020" away from the body (currently only 0.010") which is 0.25mm instead of the required 0.5mm!

lotus.svg: leaves are too close to each other. The closest distances between them must be 0.5mm.

Can somebody look at that SVG?
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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 16:50:18 »
I am confused, from the SVG guide it says:

"gaps between lines must be at least 0.5mm"
"all lines must be at least 0.2mm thick"

In the linux key, the white space is what is considered the lines. As a result, the space between the body and feet should follow the "at least 0.2mm thick" rule, which it does.

I did notice in the SVG, that the white part is white, and the background is transparent. In the instructions, it says it says the shapes (lines) should be black and the background transparent. Maybe this caused the confusion?

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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:02:36 »
Quote from: wuzle;321566
I am confused, from the SVG guide it says:

"gaps between lines must be at least 0.5mm"
"all lines must be at least 0.2mm thick"

In the linux key, the white space is what is considered the lines. As a result, the space between the body and feet should follow the "at least 0.2mm thick" rule, which it does.

I did notice in the SVG, that the white part is white, and the background is transparent. In the instructions, it says it says the shapes (lines) should be black and the background transparent. Maybe this caused the confusion?


I'm also confused.

I asked for a clarification...

...

I just looked a bit closer. I found some lines to be around 0.17mm .

Is it possible to make them around 0.35 mm?
« Last Edit: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:06:41 by 7bit »
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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 18:43:02 »
Quote from: 7bit;321572
I'm also confused.

I asked for a clarification...

...

I just looked a bit closer. I found some lines to be around 0.17mm .

Is it possible to make them around 0.35 mm?


Sure, I'll make the changes, although I won't get to it untill tomorrow.

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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 13:18:43 »
I increased the gaps between the feet and the body. Is that where you found the 0.17mm gap?

I also changed the shapes (lines) to black instead of white.

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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 14:13:51 »
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I increased the gaps between the feet and the body. Is that where you found the 0.17mm gap?

I also changed the shapes (lines) to black instead of white.


I think itb is OK for the 1.25 units key. But is has to be smaller blown on a 1 units key:

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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 17:03:50 »
If you don't provide a suitable SVG, I must skip both Tux keys.

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 17:48:32 »
How about these?  I widened the left outline and removed the fine points from the eyes. TuxKey7 has reduced eyeballs in case eyeballs on TuxKey6 are too narrow.

I'm not sure what to do about your comment on the bottom edge. On my system the circle is not cut off. Can you explain the problem in more detail?
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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 08:54:20 »
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How about these?  I widened the left outline and removed the fine points from the eyes. TuxKey7 has reduced eyeballs in case eyeballs on TuxKey6 are too narrow.

I'm not sure what to do about your comment on the bottom edge. On my system the circle is not cut off. Can you explain the problem in more detail?


In both graphics, the eyes are are wrong and still the visible section is not large enough on the bottom and top and too large at the sides!

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I think itb is OK for the 1.25 units key. But is has to be smaller blown on a 1 units key:

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« Reply #63 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 10:32:08 »
If the eyes are any wider, the spacing between the eyes and distance from the side of the head will be greater than 0.5mm.

Did you ever here from SP about if they were mistaken in the spacing? Ie reversing what was a line and what was transparent that results in the spacing requirement being 0.5mm for the gap between the feet and body.

Also, I too don't see the cutoff circle at the bottom.

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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 14:53:22 »
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If the eyes are any wider, the spacing between the eyes and distance from the side of the head will be greater than 0.5mm

Yes, this is exactly the problem with increasing size of the eyes. I think I fixed the problem where the ends of the eyes were "too tiny."

Also, I did notice where the sides of the SVG were too wide. I trimmed the document size to fit the circle exactly.  Please check TuxKey8.  Thanks.
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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 14:55:52 »
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If the eyes are any wider, the spacing between the eyes and distance from the side of the head will be greater than 0.5mm.

Did you ever here from SP about if they were mistaken in the spacing? Ie reversing what was a line and what was transparent that results in the spacing requirement being 0.5mm for the gap between the feet and body.

Also, I too don't see the cutoff circle at the bottom.


But I see it!

I'm quite sure that the original version 4 is OK for the 1.25 units key. But on a 1 units key it will come out smaller!

Can you please take version 4 and make the tux in the circle as large as possible, without changing the relations of the parts of the tux?

Or maybe even a version where the tux sticks out of the circle with his feet and top section of his head.

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:08:45 »
How about these. I created one that fits in the 1.0 width keys so they have a 9.04x10.84mm page size. And this svg will be used for both keys, unscaled just centered on both.

The 1.0 key (TUX):


The 1.25 key (LINUX):


And the svg is attached.
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« Reply #67 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:12:45 »
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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:16:14 »
Ok, I increased the size of TuxKey4 so the head and feet are touching the edges of the circle.  Is this what you wanted?
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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:19:17 »
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Ok, I increased the size of TuxKey4 so the head and feet are touching the edges of the circle.  Is this what you wanted?


Yes, plus a versioon where the distances of feet and head to the circle are around 0.25mm!
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« Reply #70 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:27:50 »
What about a white on black version ?
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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:30:27 »
I'm nerves killing you!

Sorry for that.

I think the version 9 is suitable for dopuble shot, except for the bottom area between the legs. The height must be around 0.5mm (currently only 0.4mm)

All other sections are OK.

You could even make the gape between body and feet a bit closer (0.25mm) when you blow the tux up within the circle, such that it is 0.25mm away from the circle (feet and head).

The only thinbg I don't like are the eyes, I love the version 4 eyes best!

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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:32:29 »
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What about a white on black version ?
a white tux on black key (i ordered two)


We had this version at the beginning. It sucks, because the tux looks like a ghost!

The only way out without that circle would be to have him on a white key.
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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:36:53 »
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Yes, plus a versioon where the distances of feet and head to the circle are around 0.25mm!
Ok, this is TuxKey4 with tux blown up so his head and feet are around 0.25mm from the edge of the circle. Any changes needed?
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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 15:39:25 »
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I'm nerves killing you!

Sorry for that.

I think the version 9 is suitable for dopuble shot, except for the bottom area between the legs. The height must be around 0.5mm (currently only 0.4mm)

All other sections are OK.

You could even make the gape between body and feet a bit closer (0.25mm) when you blow the tux up within the circle, such that it is 0.25mm away from the circle (feet and head).

The only thinbg I don't like are the eyes, I love the version 4 eyes best!

PS: when we finished this, it will be the best tux key ever!



Here is version 9 with just the bottom area increased to > 0.5mm. I won't be able to more editing until maybe tomorrow. Hope this works.

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 21:46:29 »
I went back to the SVG keycap howto instructions and tried getting all the measurements right. The eyes are hard to get right, because the left eye (from our point of view) is too close to the side of Tux's head. So I gave Tux some goggles so he wouldn't look like one eye was cut off. When shrunk down to the size of a key cap, the problem will be less noticeable.
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« Reply #76 on: Sat, 02 April 2011, 02:32:29 »
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I went back to the SVG keycap howto instructions and tried getting all the measurements right. The eyes are hard to get right, because the left eye (from our point of view) is too close to the side of Tux's head. So I gave Tux some goggles so he wouldn't look like one eye was cut off. When shrunk down to the size of a key cap, the problem will be less noticeable.


Version 12 is the ugliest so far!

Version 9 with eyes from version 4, complete Tux blown up such that distances to circle are 0.25mm is the one to go for!
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« Reply #77 on: Sat, 02 April 2011, 10:17:19 »
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I prefer the stoned look versus the cross eyed look!

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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 02 April 2011, 12:54:02 »
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« Reply #79 on: Sat, 02 April 2011, 13:38:11 »
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Our's will be the best ever Tux key of all times in the whole universe!


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« Reply #80 on: Sat, 02 April 2011, 16:39:59 »
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« Reply #81 on: Sat, 02 April 2011, 17:43:39 »
OK, I've taken TuxKey9.svg and pulled the eyes from TuxKey4.svg, then put it in a circle so that the gap between his feet and head and the edge of the circle is 0.25mm.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
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« Reply #82 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 03:49:44 »
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OK, I've taken TuxKey9.svg and pulled the eyes from TuxKey4.svg, then put it in a circle so that the gap between his feet and head and the edge of the circle is 0.25mm.

Keeping my fingers crossed.


Best version ever!

Thanks!

Can you please make 2 versions, one with changes only to the bottom section and one where the eyes are 0.05mm wider apart and the head is 0.05mm thicker at both sides (ie 0.1mm thicker in total)?




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« Reply #83 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 06:07:26 »
Here is my version of TuxKey9 with TuxKey4 eyes:


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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 08:26:14 »
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Here is my version of TuxKey9 with TuxKey4 eyes:

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OK, we are very close to the final solution:



Eyes in yiur version are a bit smaller than those from Fwiffo!

I prefer the larger eyes!

Maybe it is possible to take those and, if necessary, enlarge the head a slight bit, such that dists are 0.5!


Left: eyes are OK, right: eyes are too small!
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« Reply #85 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 08:45:45 »
I am not going to have any time to do more edits for the next couple of days.

My favorite version is TuxKey9-1, I have played with head size, eye size and tons of other proportions and this I think is the best solution. It looks a little cross-eyed, but I printed this version out at actual size and you don't notice it.

Also, TuxKey4 is my favorite if we are just talking about a 1.25 width key.

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« Reply #86 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 09:28:18 »
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I am not going to have any time to do more edits for the next couple of days.

My favorite version is TuxKey9-1, I have played with head size, eye size and tons of other proportions and this I think is the best solution. It looks a little cross-eyed, but I printed this version out at actual size and you don't notice it.

Also, TuxKey4 is my favorite if we are just talking about a 1.25 width key.


Don't give up right now!

You are so close to the final solution!!!

Just the eyes from version 4 and we are done!!!!

[size=12]PLEASE!!![/size]
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« Reply #87 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 12:00:21 »
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Don't give up right now!

You are so close to the final solution!!!

Just the eyes from version 4 and we are done!!!!

[size=12]PLEASE!!![/size]


OK, then I've got to do it myself:



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« Reply #88 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 12:02:54 »
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Done!
Yay!

Will this be used for the 1.0 key, 1.25 key, or both?
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« Reply #89 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 12:05:03 »
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Yay!

Will this be used for the 1.0 key, 1.25 key, or both?


I think for both.

I hope they don't complain about the eyes. Well, we will see.

In the worst case, the eyes must be enlarged a bit.
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« Reply #90 on: Sun, 03 April 2011, 15:15:11 »
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Stoner Tux FTW!


Hey hey, it looks awesome.

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 04 April 2011, 13:34:15 »
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I'm just saying bigger eyes would be better.


Larger eyes == larger head.

I will give it a try ...

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 10:33:08 »
I still like the white on black  tux. Maybe for Round 4:

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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 10:57:48 »
wuzle.
i like the LINUXGHOST too.  especially if it was in a black circle on a white or yellow key.
i'd get some if available in round 4.


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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 11:20:38 »
Oh you guys. Innocently prancing around, thinking round 3 will ever end.
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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 12:31:56 »
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Oh you guys. Innocently prancing around, thinking round 3 will ever end.


In fact we just do an intermediate shipping and continue with the 2nd half of keys right away ...

Here is what I will send to SP now:


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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 14:45:35 »
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wuzle.
i like the LINUXGHOST too.  especially if it was in a black circle on a white or yellow key.
i'd get some if available in round 4.


The problem with putting it in a circle is that you have to make the head bigger and the eyes smaller like the current version (7bit's version above). ie, for doubleshots, the key part (black in LINUXGHOST) must be at least 0.5mm, and the doubleshot part (white in LINUXGHOST) must be 0.2mm. So with LINUXGHOST it works out better because you are using the smaller dimension for a lot of the intricate parts of the shape. When you put it in a circle, this is reversed and you lose some of the detail.

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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 14:53:36 »
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The problem with putting it in a circle is that you have to make the head bigger and the eyes smaller like the current version (7bit's version above). ie, for doubleshots, the key part (black in LINUXGHOST) must be at least 0.5mm, and the doubleshot part (white in LINUXGHOST) must be 0.2mm. So with LINUXGHOST it works out better because you are using the smaller dimension for a lot of the intricate parts of the shape. When you put it in a circle, this is reversed and you lose some of the detail.


Yes, but the Tux looks strange when it has not the correct color. It would be better to put it onto a white key.
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« Reply #98 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 16:45:11 »
I like the linuxghost better than the circled one ...

He's cute sure ;-)
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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 17:41:13 »
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There will be a tux on a white key in Round 4. And if you like, the ghost tux as well ...


Oooh I want a few of those! Also a Tux escape key :D

You know what would be awesome? Keys for popular websites like Phoronix, Slashdot, Reddit, [strike]Facebook[/strike], etc.

Those might make me go back to using a full sized keyboard as a daily driver so I could put those on the F-row and bind them to open the specific websites.

Holy smokes that would ROCK!:dance::roll:

Then again for all I know you guys had that already in group buy 1 or 2 where I did not participate :P
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« Reply #100 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 18:03:25 »
I think the linuxghost looks awful, glad we didn't go with that one.

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« Reply #101 on: Sun, 03 July 2011, 10:24:22 »
And the results

LINUX:
[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 20011[/ATTACH]

GNOME:
[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 20010[/ATTACH]

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« Reply #102 on: Sun, 03 July 2011, 10:39:39 »
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And the results

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Perfect, except that the black body parts left and right end way ahead of the feet. Don't know why they could not be closer, but at least they did them like in the graphics we've submitted. Also, no quality issues like with the Awesome face.
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« Reply #103 on: Mon, 04 July 2011, 02:58:36 »
i'm in for linux one piece esc key for next group buy
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« Reply #104 on: Tue, 05 July 2011, 02:12:54 »
we should do a linux kit for next group buy :)  I would be in for that.

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« Reply #105 on: Wed, 06 July 2011, 01:01:02 »
i'm definitely in for these keycaps and many others. can't wait for group 4. its just that we do a mssive order it takes us @ least a month to receive them. but what can you do? go godzilla on their butts?
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« Reply #106 on: Wed, 06 July 2011, 01:33:58 »
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Quote from: wuzle;372437
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Perfect, except that the black body parts left and right end way ahead of the feet. Don't know why they could not be closer, but at least they did them like in the graphics we've submitted. Also, no quality issues like with the Awesome face.

Just nitpicking: you can't see it in the pictures but the white parts of the LINUX key have some very minor shrinking. This in turn results in what appears to be a scratch on the surface.

I haven't got a decent camera a the moment so any pictures I take don't show this little detail, but you can spot it when light falls sideways on the key. You just might want to take care next time you design a key with a large surface of infill as I think it is the double-shot process and not SP's fault.
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« Reply #107 on: Wed, 06 July 2011, 04:54:34 »
Yup, the white part of the penguin has shrinking which looks like scratches.

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« Reply #108 on: Wed, 10 August 2011, 06:19:56 »
I got the Tux and GNOME keys yesterday along with the rest of my #3 order, and I must say they look fantastic. I am very pleased with them, thanks to all who worked on the SVGs and of course to iMav and 7bit.

I already put in an order for buy #4, more Tux and Gnome yay! :D Would be awesome if someone could make a /. key, and perhaps a Firefox/Mozilla one as well.
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Hammering on an old Happy Hacking Pro 2. Still going strong!