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Title: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 December 2017, 20:12:50
Latest Update: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92983.msg2585173#msg2585173

(https://i.imgur.com/qY8QDJM.jpg)

http://www.switchmod.net/product/gb-jtk-red-riot (starts may 1)

TL;DR: It's JTK now, and it's $50. MOQ 150

Status: Sorting vendors, trying to figure out when the next JTK production period is so we can start this boy

(131 keys)

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Renders by Hineybush


Old OP:
More
UPDATE: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92983.msg2562173#msg2562173

I proposed the idea in slack, thought I'd get more feedback. This has been one of my grail sets for a long time, never thought to run it myself. Many of the old-timers may remember when blanks were the "in" thing. Unfortunately, nobody ever thought to make a red blank set. Now I'm doing it.

Color will be RO2.

(https://uniqey.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/205091409/keycap_colors_2016.jpg)

RO1 is too dark, P3 is also good, V1 is too orange. RO2 is the color I imagine this set in my head.

I've opted for 112344 (or BBCDEE), since it's a little more compatible with modern layouts.

GMK Render:

(http://i.imgur.com/7nbw8aJ.jpg)

The windows on the windowed caps will also be translucent red.

Render by Oblotzky.

It supports everything and more.

(https://i.imgur.com/KxfHzsx.png)

Pricing will be ~$120. MOQ 100

I forgot about taxes when I initially estimated pricing on this kit, so it's slowly rising as I'm learning.

Hineybush renders:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4654/27977088289_6209ca721c_b.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4722/27977092029_a1885c7916_b.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4760/27977095319_f9f7659296_b.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Minha on Mon, 11 December 2017, 20:15:41
u suck
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: superdoedoe on Mon, 11 December 2017, 20:17:40
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 11 December 2017, 20:21:13
+one
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Taylorisg on Mon, 11 December 2017, 20:27:23
I'm down for pretty much any GMK blank set so +1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Wetherbee on Mon, 11 December 2017, 20:45:22

keycaps
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:07:20
I don't get it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: mason on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:08:28
I would be in for one set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:10:12
I don't get it

it's red and it's blanks
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:10:39
samples? i have the ceresia mod set and the p3 red is quite bright irl. r02 looks even lighter on that chart.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:12:17
samples? i have the ceresia mod set and the p3 red is quite bright irl. r02 looks even lighter on that chart.

i'll see if that can be arranged

it's a stock color so shouldn't be too much of a pain

i want it to be extremely red, though

it's the same red as the "control" key on GMK soware, which is why i chose it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:13:17
Both should fit the bill for you nicely, I would be down for either one tbh. GL
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:18:17
u suck

True

I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:24:22
samples? i have the ceresia mod set and the p3 red is quite bright irl. r02 looks even lighter on that chart.

i'll see if that can be arranged

it's a stock color so shouldn't be too much of a pain

i want it to be extremely red, though

it's the same red as the "control" key on GMK soware, which is why i chose it

RO2 is also used in Honeywell and Rainbow, for other references
Title: Re: [IC] GMK RO2 (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 December 2017, 21:25:07
samples? i have the ceresia mod set and the p3 red is quite bright irl. r02 looks even lighter on that chart.

i'll see if that can be arranged

it's a stock color so shouldn't be too much of a pain

i want it to be extremely red, though

it's the same red as the "control" key on GMK soware, which is why i chose it

RO2 is also used in Honeywell and Rainbow, for other references

Also here: https://originative.co/products/accent-keys-one

It's extremely red in person.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 December 2017, 22:54:34
This set is now called GMK Red Riot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Mon, 11 December 2017, 23:14:57
I like the idea of blanks. Not so much GMK, but I’m starting to come around. Count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 11 December 2017, 23:44:02
what board are you going to use these on, is what I wanna know.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 12 December 2017, 00:20:01
what board are you going to use these on, is what I wanna know.

SCHUMI
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: laughatpain on Tue, 12 December 2017, 00:22:40
I thought you'd run yolch before this  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 00:28:00
what board are you going to use these on, is what I wanna know.

mira or red mech27

or maybe a black wkl tkl

what board are you going to use these on, is what I wanna know.

SCHUMI

that was the plan, but i have to sell it to buy something i've been looking for for a while

I thought you'd run yolch before this  :eek:

that was the idea, but i've had trouble getting in contact with JTK to run it in cherry profile

i also don't really have the resources to run a GB like that in the way i'd like, whereas this will probably have like 100 sets ordered and i can make someone else do it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 02:31:57
how would you guys feel about a transparent red r1 key as a sort of "novelty"

i think it's a neat idea but i want your opinions

i'll email GMK before the week is out, finals are happening right now so i'm a bit busy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 12 December 2017, 02:41:36
That'd be cool
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: vegs on Tue, 12 December 2017, 03:49:17
ye
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 12 December 2017, 05:09:46
I'm not the biggest fan of R0-R5
Time to become one.

How about RO1 for modifiers to make it a two tone set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Acerk on Tue, 12 December 2017, 08:40:50
I'd like a blank GMK set, but definitely not in red. Dolch or Classic Beige has wider appeal.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: kmba on Tue, 12 December 2017, 08:48:36
RO2 is the best GMK red.  However, I don't like red, I don't like blanks, and I don't see the need for GMK blanks.  But best of luck. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: techfresh on Tue, 12 December 2017, 09:36:01
I’d be down. Would look good on my black cases.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 12 December 2017, 09:52:02
... wait ... we have a slack?

I also submit my vote to change the name to Redrum.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: mogo on Tue, 12 December 2017, 12:37:22
Better dead than red.

nah I think a red blank set would look cool, even if I wouldn't buy it. As someone else pointed out on the Blank Check thread, there's very little reason to go with GMK for non-doubleshots, and look into JTK instead. I don't know the contact info for JTK though, but surely someone around here has it. But it's your call, maybe there's some special sauce in GMK I don't know about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 12:49:48
Better dead than red.

nah I think a red blank set would look cool, even if I wouldn't buy it. As someone else pointed out on the Blank Check thread, there's very little reason to go with GMK for non-doubleshots, and look into JTK instead. I don't know the contact info for JTK though, but surely someone around here has it. But it's your call, maybe there's some special sauce in GMK I don't know about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

JTK is non-contactable. I've been looking for their info for a few weeks now, and I can't find it. I've asked in my Chinese channels too, and nobody seems to have an email address for them.

GMK is a proven manufacturer, and they're easy to reach.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Kafka on Tue, 12 December 2017, 13:46:12
Would this be like Supreme red?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:48:03
Would this be like Supreme red?

Roughly, yeah. Maybe a shade or two darker.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:15:56

I'm not the biggest fan of R0-R5, but that seems to be the "in" thing right now, so I'll do that.


What? Can you point me to any set that has r0? I'm interested in this, but only to harvest r0 gmk caps since they practically don't exist!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:28:33

I'm not the biggest fan of R0-R5, but that seems to be the "in" thing right now, so I'll do that.


What? Can you point me to any set that has r0? I'm interested in this, but only to harvest r0 gmk caps since they practically don't exist!

most OG sets are r0-r5

i've opted for the more "modern" 112344 for better compatability
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:37:35
I've updated the first post with a better layout idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:45:20
I'm finding I prefer P3 over RO2, if i'm honest. do blank GMK sets cost significantly less, since they aren't double shot?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:47:53
I'm finding I prefer P3 over RO2, if i'm honest. do blank GMK sets cost significantly less, since they aren't double shot?

i've been told they cost over 30% less, but i have not confirmed this yet

ro2 is a more extreme red than p3, and that's the look i'm going for
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Kafka on Tue, 12 December 2017, 17:45:20

I'm not the biggest fan of R0-R5, but that seems to be the "in" thing right now, so I'll do that.


What? Can you point me to any set that has r0? I'm interested in this, but only to harvest r0 gmk caps since they practically don't exist!

GMK Iris from ZFrontier
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 20:50:01
Oblotzky made some renders for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Tue, 12 December 2017, 21:25:31
Color me intrigued.

Did you have a time frame of when you would like to run this?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 21:30:01
Color me intrigued.

Did you have a time frame of when you would like to run this?

some time soon, probably middle or end of january, pending kit changes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Wetherbee on Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:11:00
needs more red keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:12:00
There should be enough keys on each row to complete a Planck, right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:29:40
There should be enough keys on each row to complete a Planck, right?

Yep! That's actually why I chose 112344 as the profile for this set. There are more than enough r4 1us to make the bottom row work. The other rows can just take from the numpad.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: captsis on Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:53:39
better red than dead i suppose
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:59:22
I emailed GMK for pricing and MOQ information. I'll update the OP when I get that info.

Compatibility is more important than price point to me. With that said, expect some keys to be removed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 13 December 2017, 00:22:31
There should be enough keys on each row to complete a Planck, right?

Yep! That's actually why I chose 112344 as the profile for this set. There are more than enough r4 1us to make the bottom row work. The other rows can just take from the numpad.

Cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Rumblehotep on Wed, 13 December 2017, 00:33:20
Very neat!
Was toying with the idea of using polished brass plate to go with black frame & black gateron blanks on next build.
Might try for red frame instead now (ooh with keyclack mirror black brass!).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: fishpod on Wed, 13 December 2017, 06:18:03
naisu!

looking forward to a CR blank, but damn red is also good as hell
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 13 December 2017, 09:37:10
im hoping this can be like $75.... i think stormtrooper barebones was $100 at 150 moq, wasnt it?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:30:34
im hoping this can be like $75.... i think stormtrooper barebones was $100 at 150 moq, wasnt it?

That's the dream, but there's a lot in this kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:04:11
looks nice, would be hard to turn down if it includes the translucent RED key  :thumb:

Have you gotten your hands on a JTK set for a comparison? They seem pretty similar
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:14:55
looks nice, would be hard to turn down if it includes the translucent RED key  :thumb:

Have you gotten your hands on a JTK set for a comparison? They seem pretty similar

the finish on JTK sets isn't as nice as GMK sets, in my opinion
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 13 December 2017, 19:07:57
only cuz i found it randomly.... P3 next to RO2

(https://i.imgur.com/5g57QnB.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: jebbra on Mon, 18 December 2017, 04:37:28
only cuz i found it randomly.... P3 next to RO2

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5g57QnB.png)


I can confirm that photo is too saturated (I have the color samples). But it doesn't dethrone RO2 as the reddest GMK stock color for now, and that's why I choose RO2 for GMK Mondrian.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 18 December 2017, 11:36:59
only cuz i found it randomly.... P3 next to RO2

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5g57QnB.png)


I can confirm that photo is too saturated (I have the color samples). But it doesn't dethrone RO2 as the reddest GMK stock color for now, and that's why I choose RO2 for GMK Mondrian.

I chose based on hex values
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 22 December 2017, 09:57:28
GMK hasn't emailed back. I suspect I got lost in the holiday rush. I'll try again in the new year.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: BOK on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:46:41
GMK hasn't emailed back. I suspect I got lost in the holiday rush. I'll try again in the new year.
Any update from GMK?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 06:37:32
I'm not usually the guy going in ICs and criticizing things but I hope you get this criticism as constructive, as a respectable user you are. 

I don't really get this type of sets, first of all BLANKS with GMK doesn't make much sense, even if a GMK cap is top notch you still usually go for them for their awesome doubleshot, because for blanks we have other options, imho doesn't make sense due the GMK price to go for ABS blanks.  Plus to this you are adding a strict color, something that you probably know is not for everyone, without even mentioning the uniform color (nothing particularly great). 

I honestly kinda doubt we should run these sets via GMK, pretty hard to hit the MOQ if it will be 150 as usual and even if the MOQ will be lower because they are blank or for whatever reason, the price will still be ridiculous for what it is (thick abs blanks caps). Mondrian was like $80 if i remember correctly and this should be more expensive than Mondrian, I would say around $90-100

The only thing in the set that i think could push people to buy it, is probably the R4C, but still i doubt it might happen at a 150 MOQ. 

Also, if thick ABS blank caps is what you want, as another user suggested you might really want to go for JTK for half of the price of the set (at that price more people might be interested), since with JTK the biggest problem are the legends, while the cap himself is more or less the same thng (yeah i saw you said the finish on JTK sets isn't as nice as GMK sets, i just don't agree with that statement). 

Just my 2 cents, please don't take it personal.     


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:25:34
GMK hasn't emailed back. I suspect I got lost in the holiday rush. I'll try again in the new year.
Any update from GMK?

Sorry, BOK. Nothing yet. I emailed them at the beginning of the week.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:31:26
 

I don't really get this type of sets, first of all BLANKS with GMK doesn't make much sense, even if a GMK cap is top notch you still usually go for them for their awesome doubleshot, because for blanks we have other options, imho doesn't make sense due the GMK price to go for ABS blanks.  Plus to this you are adding a strict color, something that you probably know is not for everyone, without even mentioning the uniform color (nothing particularly great). 

there's nothing to get, it's thick ABS blanks

i like the way GMK feels, but i don't like the way most legends look

PBT blanks wouldn't come out the right color

Quote
I honestly kinda doubt we should run these sets via GMK, pretty hard to hit the MOQ if it will be 150 as usual and even if the MOQ will be lower because they are blank or for whatever reason, the price will still be ridiculous for what it is (thick abs blanks caps). Mondrian was like $80 if i remember correctly and this should be more expensive than Mondrian, I would say around $90-100

i think many people would pay $100 for a set like this

Quote
The only thing in the set that i think could push people to buy it, is probably the R4C, but still i doubt it might happen at a 150 MOQ.


also ISO

Quote
Also, if thick ABS blank caps is what you want, as another user suggested you might really want to go for JTK for half of the price of the set (at that price more people might be interested), since with JTK the biggest problem are the legends, while the cap himself is more or less the same thng (yeah i saw you said the finish on JTK sets isn't as nice as GMK sets, i just don't agree with that statement). 

if you can find me JTK's contact info, i'll run it as JTK

i've been looking for nearly two months now with no dice

but JTK is kinda crap, though. i don't know if they can do blanks, and i think their MOQ is higher than GMK's
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:08:25
i think many people would pay $100 for a set like this

That's the point where i disagree, I doubt there can be 150 people wiling to spend $100+ for that (also checkout previous Mondrian) 

if you can find me JTK's contact info, i'll run it as JTK
i've been looking for nearly two months now with no dice
but JTK is kinda crap, though. i don't know if they can do blanks, and i think their MOQ is higher than GMK's

For JTK, you might want to contact zF for this (to get the contact of JTK or to run it through zF), if what you tried is to deal directly with JTK contacting them, i doubt this will work. 
i'll PM you the mail. 

Honestly no i think JTK caps are very good if you don't care about legends, basically GMK with some dumb legends somewhere.   


Also, remember to add various proxy in many regions for this, that's actually the only way to hope to reach the MOQ on a Blank GMK set. 



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:10:31
i think many people would pay $100 for a set like this

That's the point where i disagree, I doubt there can be 150 people wiling to spend $100+ for that (also checkout previous Mondrian) 

if you can find me JTK's contact info, i'll run it as JTK
i've been looking for nearly two months now with no dice
but JTK is kinda crap, though. i don't know if they can do blanks, and i think their MOQ is higher than GMK's

For JTK, you might want to contact zF for this (to get the contact of JTK or to run it through zF), if what you tried is to deal directly with JTK contacting them, i doubt this will work. 
i'll PM you the mail. 

Honestly no i think JTK caps are very good if you don't care about legends, basically GMK with some dumb legends somewhere.   
 
Also, remember to add various proxy in many regions for this, that's actually the only way to hope to reach the MOQ on a Blank GMK set.

zF didn't reply to my emails, i tried 4 times

and i have proxies behind the scenes

just not saying anything until i know if i'm actually running the set or not
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:11:36
i think many people would pay $100 for a set like this

That's the point where i disagree, I doubt there can be 150 people wiling to spend $100+ for that (also checkout previous Mondrian) 

if you can find me JTK's contact info, i'll run it as JTK
i've been looking for nearly two months now with no dice
but JTK is kinda crap, though. i don't know if they can do blanks, and i think their MOQ is higher than GMK's

For JTK, you might want to contact zF for this (to get the contact of JTK or to run it through zF), if what you tried is to deal directly with JTK contacting them, i doubt this will work. 
i'll PM you the mail. 

Honestly no i think JTK caps are very good if you don't care about legends, basically GMK with some dumb legends somewhere.   
 
Also, remember to add various proxy in many regions for this, that's actually the only way to hope to reach the MOQ on a Blank GMK set.

zF didn't reply to my emails, i tried 4 times

and i have proxies behind the scenes

just not saying anything until i know if i'm actually running the set or not

PM'd 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 07:52:33
GOOD NEWS!

Woke up to an email from GMK. It's very much looking like we'll be able to run this set for close to $100. MOQ 100.

Also, the windowed keys will feature red tinted windows instead of normal clear ones.

I'll speak to my vendors next and let you know about final pricing soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 12 January 2018, 08:10:42
That's great news, Puddsy!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 08:20:01
Thanks! I'm really excited about this again, haha.

That price includes GMK trays, by the way.

I have an EU proxy lined up already, I'll work this week on getting a KR, CN, and possibly a SEA proxy as well. Are there any other region proxies you guys would like to see?

I'll keep you guys updated.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Fri, 12 January 2018, 08:21:52
That’s a damn good price!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 12 January 2018, 08:23:32
GOOD NEWS!

Woke up to an email from GMK. It's very much looking like we'll be able to run this set for close to $100. MOQ 100.

Also, the windowed keys will feature red tinted windows instead of normal clear ones.

I'll speak to my vendors next and let you know about final pricing soon.

Nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 08:32:25
That’s a damn good price!!

There's a chance it ends up at like $105, but for 138 keys that's pretty good.

EDIT: I forgot about taxes, so it's gonna go up a bit. Should still be reasonable, though. Low $100 range for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: breusch91 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 09:29:52
will you be offering a blue alpha kit and a green mod kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: ___q on Fri, 12 January 2018, 09:58:27
Also, the windowed keys will feature red tinted windows instead of normal clear ones.

This is a very nice touch.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 11:13:15
will you be offering a blue alpha kit and a green mod kit?

I know you're joking, but a blue set and a green set are planned if this does well.

Also, the windowed keys will feature red tinted windows instead of normal clear ones.

This is a very nice touch.

Thanks. That's part of what took GMK so long to reply, they were checking to see if that could be done. I think it'll look really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 12:35:25
Oh, and since I know people will ask, price is looking like $110 for NA at 100 sets. Price break to $100 at 150 sets.

Price for other regions may/will be higher due to taxes and stuff. Full price list coming as I flesh out the proxies.

I didn't think about taxes and margins in my initial estimate, and that price is with those factored in.

I'm planning on launching the GB in the second week of February, working on getting a concrete date. Might be moved back depending on proxies and other boring behind the scenes stuff.

If any of you know of a vendor who might be interested in proxying for your region, feel free to let me know so I can get in touch with them. I already have an EU vendor confirmed, and I'm working out terms with my NA vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 12 January 2018, 14:14:44
This just might be the set to go on my MAO white canoe with the red plate.  Will buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: schmoktopus on Fri, 12 January 2018, 15:16:24
Please consider Candykeys as a European vendor, I think they would be happy to do that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 16:19:40
Please consider Candykeys as a European vendor, I think they would be happy to do that.

The EU proxy will be Caps Unlocked.

Mostly looking for vendors in China or Australia right now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (red blanks)
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sat, 13 January 2018, 07:03:24
Please consider Candykeys as a European vendor, I think they would be happy to do that.

The EU proxy will be Caps Unlocked.

Mostly looking for vendors in China or Australia right now.

I am honoured to be the EU proxy for this set. I look forward to making this set available to customers in the EU, and helping to reach the MOQ!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:16:15
GB starts 3/5

i got some more renders coming to whet the appetite a bit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:18:53
GB starts 3/5

i got some more renders coming to whet the appetite a bit

Ooo the hype is real. Gonna have to mark this one down in my calendar.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:28:28
GB starts 3/5

i got some more renders coming to whet the appetite a bit

Ooo the hype is real. Gonna have to mark this one down in my calendar.  :thumb:

Make sure you put extra money away too, there may be options to bundle it with the CU-75 from Caps Unlocked

it's gonna be real good

working on finalizing other proxies and vendors, should have updates on that this week

trying to sort as much out as i can before school starts again 1/21
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:52:39
wondering if GMK is thinking what I am thinking. Shine thought key's that look blank. Have the key's lets say red and then have a clear double shot insert thats the same color red. It wouldn't obviously be completely unnoticeable but would be pretty darn hidden.. and when the keyboard's on I expect it to make a nice impression. Thais the case Puddsy might have stumbled on to a new key cap design for everyone to enjoy. I like the idea of this just not sure where and if i ever use red keycap set.. who knows Thought the CU-75 looks nice guessing it be offered in colors that compliment the red caps nicely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:57:22
wondering if GMK is thinking what I am thinking. Shine thought key's that look blank. Have the key's lets say red and then have a clear double shot insert thats the same color red. It wouldn't obviously be completely unnoticeable but would be pretty darn hidden.. and when the keyboard's on I expect it to make a nice impression. Thais the case Puddsy might have stumbled on to a new key cap design for everyone to enjoy. I like the idea of this just not sure where and if i ever use red keycap set.. who knows Thought the CU-75 looks nice guessing it be offered in colors that compliment the red caps nicely.

i asked about this as well

translucent plastics don't look anything like opaque plastics, it couldn't be done in a way that i'd want

plus, the legends would have cross-hatching in them because of how the doubleshot process works

it is a nice idea though

take a look at the cherry replica set/smallfry set for more info
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Rumblehotep on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:49:49
Hyped to hear this has a date! 
Now for that gloss black planck hipro to exist
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 15 January 2018, 19:12:37
**** it why not. I'll get one from EU proxy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 15 January 2018, 20:40:52
**** it why not. I'll get one from EU proxy.

good man
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 15 January 2018, 21:12:15
**** it why not. I'll get one from EU proxy.

good man

If I can snag one of those red n White Keycult No.1's to go with this... that's gonna be hot. - NVM they're not red n white, they're red n silver. Whatevs, still buying the caps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 21:53:27
Any chance you could add a coupe accent blanks just for esc and enter. Even as another kit. I was just thinking like on a red keyboard, a black esc, enter, space would look really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 15 January 2018, 22:12:25
Any chance you could add a coupe accent blanks just for esc and enter. Even as another kit. I was just thinking like on a red keyboard, a black esc, enter, space would look really nice.

if i wasn't worried about this set making MOQ i would

but i'm worried about the base making 100 sets, i don't think an accent kit would make it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 22:47:04
Any chance you could add a coupe accent blanks just for esc and enter. Even as another kit. I was just thinking like on a red keyboard, a black esc, enter, space would look really nice.

if i wasn't worried about this set making MOQ i would

but i'm worried about the base making 100 sets, i don't think an accent kit would make it

Hmmm. Fair enough.

The 1u keys aren’t really even the problem. I figure those could be sold in sets of like 2ea R1/4 and 1ea R2/3. Then hitting 100 moq isn’t so bad cause people can buy more than one. But with mods they will be much harder to manage. I guess I’ll just have to hope hkp does another round of blanks in colors that could work.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 16 January 2018, 00:40:42
wondering if GMK is thinking what I am thinking. Shine thought key's that look blank. Have the key's lets say red and then have a clear double shot insert thats the same color red. It wouldn't obviously be completely unnoticeable but would be pretty darn hidden.. and when the keyboard's on I expect it to make a nice impression. Thais the case Puddsy might have stumbled on to a new key cap design for everyone to enjoy. I like the idea of this just not sure where and if i ever use red keycap set.. who knows Thought the CU-75 looks nice guessing it be offered in colors that compliment the red caps nicely.

i asked about this as well

translucent plastics don't look anything like opaque plastics, it couldn't be done in a way that i'd want

plus, the legends would have cross-hatching in them because of how the doubleshot process works

it is a nice idea though

take a look at the cherry replica set/smallfry set for more info

Thanks Puddsy will do!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 18 January 2018, 00:04:30
krelbit of swtichmod.net had hineybush make some renders on his MEME 65%

higher res versions in the OP

(https://i.imgur.com/PTPISoY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MmD5FCR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fOprxe4.jpg)

also yeah switchmod.net will the the US vendor for this set

still working out final pricing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 18 January 2018, 00:44:32
what in the heck is a meme65?  is this a prototype or something that I am just unaware of?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 18 January 2018, 00:46:29
what in the heck is a meme65?  is this a prototype or something that I am just unaware of?

I don't think there is a prototype yet, but I want one, and I suspect many others will want one as well. I think it's gonna be a super limited run tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 18 January 2018, 00:47:14
what in the heck is a meme65?  is this a prototype or something that I am just unaware of?

krelbit's board that he's working on

not sure when the GB is gonna be, i'll ask him

sometimes known as the penisboard because he put that on the original CAD file

what in the heck is a meme65?  is this a prototype or something that I am just unaware of?

I don't think there is a prototype yet, but I want one, and I suspect many others will want one as well. I think it's gonna be a super limited run tho.

correct on all counts
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 18 January 2018, 01:26:59
what in the heck is a meme65?  is this a prototype or something that I am just unaware of?

krelbit's board that he's working on

not sure when the GB is gonna be, i'll ask him

sometimes known as the penisboard because he put that on the original CAD file

what in the heck is a meme65?  is this a prototype or something that I am just unaware of?

I don't think there is a prototype yet, but I want one, and I suspect many others will want one as well. I think it's gonna be a super limited run tho.

correct on all counts

Yea I did the meme65 design, the original one had penis on the badge lol.

Sorry that RO2 looks so ****ty in those renders btw, was just doing it for krelbit so he can see how it looks w/ caps on the case. I really need to work on my shading/lighting in Keyshot
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 19 January 2018, 13:06:24
GMK Render:

(http://i.imgur.com/7nbw8aJ.jpg)

In an interesting turn of events, JTK actually reached out to me about producing blank sets. The pricing they gave was REALLY good, but they don't quite have the compat and color I want for this set specifically. They also can't do the translucent cap, which I really want. All future blank sets I do will probably be JTK, though. They gave me a really good quote.

Also, my NA vendor is Switchmod.net, pricing from them will be $120, with a price break to $115 at 150 sets. I didn't get pricing from GMK past 150 sets, since I don't think we'll sell more than that.

I'm still working out a Chinese proxy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 19 January 2018, 18:02:02
I'm hoping for an EU proxy, but wonder sometimes if it's cheaper to order from China anyway, cos China stuff seems to bypass customs in the UK.

Have you compared JTK to GMK? I'm sceptical but I'm down if it holds up. Just can't stomach settling for second best.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 19 January 2018, 23:32:00
I'm hoping for an EU proxy, but wonder sometimes if it's cheaper to order from China anyway, cos China stuff seems to bypass customs in the UK.

Have you compared JTK to GMK? I'm sceptical but I'm down if it holds up. Just can't stomach settling for second best.

Caps unlocked is the EU proxy.

JTK for blanks isn't quite as good as GMK (texture differences on new caps -- shine is shine), but GMK can also do a few more things than JTK (translucent plastics, R4C caps, and a few other minor things). I want a few specific things for this set that JTK can't do, since it's always been a bit of a dream for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: futurecrime on Sat, 20 January 2018, 01:41:13

Caps unlocked is the EU proxy.


Oh yeah, duh. I was on the bus drunk when I posted that, forgot it had been established further up.

Interesting to hear about JTK anyway. I need to see some in the flesh.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: hansichen on Sat, 20 January 2018, 07:55:48
Also JTK is not able to do iso keys. In this case only the iso enter would be missing, the other keys wouldn't be the problem
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 26 January 2018, 12:51:32
No news on the CN proxy front. I tried to get in touch with them again today.

Here are some new renders from oblotzky.

(https://i.imgur.com/buDXUBA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MQFbnde.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hGLsD05.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jFtgde9.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot (GB starts 3/5)
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 26 January 2018, 15:55:40
Ah, good, a render on an ortho board. I don't own any cherry profile sets, so i wasn't sure how it would look on a planck
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Riot [ON HOLD/CANCELLED?]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 February 2018, 00:38:39
ON HOLD DUE TO TANKED EXCHANGE RATE

USD -> EUR has totally tanked over the last few weeks, and the set would now cost more than I feel comfortable charging (at least $140).

I tried to gut some keys from the kit, but then it's $120 for a kit with pretty lame compatibility.

You can thank the people who are in charge of the US economy for this.

News coming soon, I think I have a way to get this done regardless.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 00:23:40
Will clean up my original post after a little bit more correspondence.

FINALLY got JTK's contact info for their English speaking rep after looking for what feels like forever.

Pricing will be around $50 (depending on price breaks), but compat has been gutted a bit. We're looking at about 120 keys.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 05 March 2018, 00:38:42
even if it has for 50 bucks!!!! it be hard to beat a decent thick blank red keyset!!!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 05 March 2018, 02:28:18
Totally redical.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:39:54
rip dollar
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:49:14
thanks puddsy - JTK should be awesome, i know you were excited for the translucent stuff but $50 price point is fantastic. the only lingering quirks of the JTK process (entEr) wont even exist as blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:52:04
thanks puddsy - JTK should be awesome, i know you were excited for the translucent stuff but $50 price point is fantastic. the only lingering quirks of the JTK process (entEr) wont even exist as blanks.

yus

it'll be good

i think i'm gonna try and start this next week or the week after

if we submit order by april, lead time is only 1 month
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:09:05
While the switch to JTK does kinda suck for your overall vision of this set, but I think it'll do wonders for getting people to buy in. Personally the change actually takes me from "It is a pretty nice set I might consider getting in the GB" with GMK to "Holy ****! $50 for quality thick ABS set? Where do i sign up at!?" with JTK. My only question is how bad the compatibility is affected by the change in manufacturers? All I really would be looking for is an extra 2,25u Shift, a 1.75u Shift, 3 bottom row 1u keys (not including the arrow cluster), & a 1u key in each row profile. That way I could use it with all my 65% & 68 key boards.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:31:54
While the switch to JTK does kinda suck for your overall vision of this set, but I think it'll do wonders for getting people to buy in. Personally the change actually takes me from "It is a pretty nice set I might consider getting in the GB" with GMK to "Holy ****! $50 for quality thick ABS set? Where do i sign up at!?" with JTK. My only question is how bad the compatibility is affected by the change in manufacturers? All I really would be looking for is an extra 2,25u Shift, a 1.75u Shift, 3 bottom row 1u keys (not including the arrow cluster), & a 1u key in each row profile. That way I could use it with all my 65% & 68 key boards.

Yeah I'm hoping it'll cover a TGR 910 with split spacebar layout. Don't know if JTK do the required spacebars.   However, for the price I'll buy it anyway and use just use it on something else if it's lacking that particular compat.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: blighty on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:38:57
It's great to see that this set is going through in one shape or another, regardless of the manufacturer.

False hope query:  Since this is still in IC, any chance for a monotone black on red set to run along side this?  I'd think people would buy a set of each to mix and match.  I know that goes outside of what the original intention of this buy, but if this will have multiple vendor support worldwide, I'd think it would be more than feasible, and not too much more logistics for anyone (assuming there are vendors involved).
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:36:10
Hi Everyone!

capsunlocked is going to be the EU proxy for this set!

I would just like to inform everyone that if you purchase a JTK Red Riot Keycap Set from capsunlocked,  and this reaches MOQ, you will receive a discount code for 5£ off of the CU75!

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I look forward to working with Puddsy to make sure that this set reaches MOQ!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:43:08
Hi Everyone!

capsunlocked is going to be the EU proxy for this set!

I would just like to inform everyone that if you purchase a JTK Red Riot Keycap Set from capsunlocked,  and this reaches MOQ, you will receive a discount code for 5£ off of the CU75!

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I look forward to working with Puddsy to make sure that this set reaches MOQ!

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

buy this man's keyboard, it is very attractive

and buy my set too pls

While the switch to JTK does kinda suck for your overall vision of this set, but I think it'll do wonders for getting people to buy in. Personally the change actually takes me from "It is a pretty nice set I might consider getting in the GB" with GMK to "Holy ****! $50 for quality thick ABS set? Where do i sign up at!?" with JTK. My only question is how bad the compatibility is affected by the change in manufacturers? All I really would be looking for is an extra 2,25u Shift, a 1.75u Shift, 3 bottom row 1u keys (not including the arrow cluster), & a 1u key in each row profile. That way I could use it with all my 65% & 68 key boards.

compat was definitely gutted, i'm still working on finalizing it

should be able to cover /most/ standard layouts due to the nature of it being blank

i will ask about getting an extra 2.75, shift in there, there's already a second 2.25 for leopold boards, but it might add to the cost, JTK doesn't like to add things to their sets because there are a lot of problems in the sorting process

but it'll definitely cover a full spacebar 65%

It's great to see that this set is going through in one shape or another, regardless of the manufacturer.

False hope query:  Since this is still in IC, any chance for a monotone black on red set to run along side this?  I'd think people would buy a set of each to mix and match.  I know that goes outside of what the original intention of this buy, but if this will have multiple vendor support worldwide, I'd think it would be more than feasible, and not too much more logistics for anyone (assuming there are vendors involved).


i'm definitely doing other blank sets if this goes through, so don't worry about that

i have some GMK colorways i've been working on (and JTK yolch) so we'll see

down the road, down the road
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 07 March 2018, 02:19:15
hey me too
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 March 2018, 05:51:18
$50 is pretty damning.

Guess I'll wait to see what the compatibility is like...
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 07 March 2018, 10:50:12
yo puddsy i know this is a blank set, but any room for a GH r4 novelty key in BoR?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:03:14
yo puddsy i know this is a blank set, but any room for a GH r4 novelty key in BoR?

no because it would make the whole set more expensive

or that's what i was told

$50 is pretty damning.

Guess I'll wait to see what the compatibility is like...

should be fairly decent, i'm waiting for them to send me a confirmed list
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:05:00
yo puddsy i know this is a blank set, but any room for a GH r4 novelty key in BoR?

no because it would make the whole set more expensive

or that's what i was told

$50 is pretty damning.

Guess I'll wait to see what the compatibility is like...

should be fairly decent, i'm waiting for them to send me a confirmed list

roger roger, no worries - ty for reply
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:39:03
JTK is sending me a cola set to check the color (since it'll be the same red). I think they may also be sending me a set to check colors for yolch.

GB soon, pretty much just waiting on new renders to confirm kit contents. There was a slight miscommunication.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:51:01
hey does this fit my Lithuanian iso?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:51:17
hey does this fit my Lithuanian iso?

no
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:51:48
hey does this fit my Lithuanian iso?

no

r u yukihira soma?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: jimirolln on Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:52:50
jesus christ i need this in my life so bad...ive always wanted to do a mcdonald theme built...your the best chef in the kitchen i love this...will there be mustard mods...er mer gerd...i'm in for at least five...make it six...can't wait for the drop...you are truly a god of keeb

see your makn fass food now...nice...nice...i like how you used a piece of my pm to update your title...cool...cool...eta on the set?

i can't keep up...your makn me look bad...no one will know what im talkn about if you keep changen it...no worries...who is the distributor?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: vegs on Thu, 15 March 2018, 03:44:45
ok
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 15 March 2018, 08:22:32
JTK is sending me a cola set to check the color (since it'll be the same red). I think they may also be sending me a set to check colors for yolch.

GB soon, pretty much just waiting on new renders to confirm kit contents. There was a slight miscommunication.

YOLCH!

****, I knew I should have gone with cerakote yellow on my 268

All hail the bringer of Yolch.  May he prosper and bring forth keycaps. 
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 11:05:49
JTK is sending me a cola set to check the color (since it'll be the same red). I think they may also be sending me a set to check colors for yolch.

GB soon, pretty much just waiting on new renders to confirm kit contents. There was a slight miscommunication.

YOLCH!

****, I knew I should have gone with cerakote yellow on my 268

All hail the bringer of Yolch.  May he prosper and bring forth keycaps.

i might end up doing it GMK but i'm still working on it
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: dubious on Thu, 15 March 2018, 11:28:33
jesus christ i need this in my life so bad...ive always wanted to do a mcdonald theme built...your the best chef in the kitchen i love this...will there be mustard mods...er mer gerd...i'm in for at least five...make it six...can't wait for the drop...you are truly a god of keeb

see your makn fass food now...nice...nice...i like how you used a piece of my pm to update your title...cool...cool...eta on the set?

i can't keep up...your makn me look bad...no one will know what im talkn about if you keep changen it...no worries...who is the distributor?

lol wtf
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 12:12:59
jesus christ i need this in my life so bad...ive always wanted to do a mcdonald theme built...your the best chef in the kitchen i love this...will there be mustard mods...er mer gerd...i'm in for at least five...make it six...can't wait for the drop...you are truly a god of keeb

see your makn fass food now...nice...nice...i like how you used a piece of my pm to update your title...cool...cool...eta on the set?

i can't keep up...your makn me look bad...no one will know what im talkn about if you keep changen it...no worries...who is the distributor?

lol wtf

he sent me a PM saying "you are not god of keeb" so i asked photoe to change my custom title to god of keeb
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 15 March 2018, 12:30:19
jesus christ i need this in my life so bad...ive always wanted to do a mcdonald theme built...your the best chef in the kitchen i love this...will there be mustard mods...er mer gerd...i'm in for at least five...make it six...can't wait for the drop...you are truly a god of keeb

see your makn fass food now...nice...nice...i like how you used a piece of my pm to update your title...cool...cool...eta on the set?

i can't keep up...your makn me look bad...no one will know what im talkn about if you keep changen it...no worries...who is the distributor?

lol wtf

he sent me a PM saying "you are not god of keeb" so i asked photoe to change my custom title to god of keeb

Oh so it wasn't just complete rambling nonsense.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Kafka on Thu, 15 March 2018, 14:55:26
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:29:46
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

jesus christ i need this in my life so bad...ive always wanted to do a mcdonald theme built...your the best chef in the kitchen i love this...will there be mustard mods...er mer gerd...i'm in for at least five...make it six...can't wait for the drop...you are truly a god of keeb

see your makn fass food now...nice...nice...i like how you used a piece of my pm to update your title...cool...cool...eta on the set?

i can't keep up...your makn me look bad...no one will know what im talkn about if you keep changen it...no worries...who is the distributor?

lol wtf

he sent me a PM saying "you are not god of keeb" so i asked photoe to change my custom title to god of keeb

Oh so it wasn't just complete rambling nonsense.

i'm a ****in idiot idk why he thinks i'm worth anything
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:33:13
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:35:13
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:39:24
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH

damn, i was hoping you would play into my dreadful mod talk. 

I didnt get my first one till 2016, had to update to reflect the year though.  Didnt want to give anyone false impressions.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:40:23
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH

damn, i was hoping you would play into my dreadful mod talk. 

I didnt get my first one till 2016, had to update to reflect the year though.  Didnt want to give anyone false impressions.

hehehe

nice
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 16 March 2018, 22:26:31
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH

So, wait, are you complaining that it didn't take significantly more effort for you to change your title? :))  We must institute some proper trials for you to pass to do another change.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Fri, 16 March 2018, 22:49:53
Oof, my sides! The best chef in the kitchen putting that mcdonald's ketchup together with the mustard mods is one of the funniest goddamn things I've read on this site. And I can't tell if jimi's serious or trolling, which is the best part! OMFG!

Can I be Assistant to the Best Chef in the Kitchen?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 22:57:39
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH

So, wait, are you complaining that it didn't take significantly more effort for you to change your title? :))  We must institute some proper trials for you to pass to do another change.

at least put mine back to the old one first
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 16 March 2018, 23:21:27
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH

So, wait, are you complaining that it didn't take significantly more effort for you to change your title? :))  We must institute some proper trials for you to pass to do another change.

at least put mine back to the old one first

An old one is back
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 23:40:28
the best chef in the kitchen

This should be Puddsy's custom title

im gonna go back to the old one in a few days

One does not simply choose what custom title they are given.  Great recompense must be made.

yeah getting my first one took a lot of work

i miss 2014 GH

So, wait, are you complaining that it didn't take significantly more effort for you to change your title? :))  We must institute some proper trials for you to pass to do another change.

at least put mine back to the old one first

An old one is back

that's cold, GJ, that's cold
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:03:07
ready to insert credit card pls
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 March 2018, 12:29:27
ready to insert credit card pls

waiting for renders so i can confirm contents then i think we are go
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 25 March 2018, 12:15:47
Tracking updated on samples. Will post pics with schumiboard when the sample set arrives. Probably this week.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 29 March 2018, 23:47:44
(https://i.imgur.com/qY8QDJM.jpg)

here is the compat, i finally got the render from JTK

removing anything won't reduce cost (this is standard JTK compat), but adding things gets expensive fast
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 30 March 2018, 00:34:45
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qY8QDJM.jpg)


here is the compat, i finally got the render from JTK

removing anything won't reduce cost (this is standard JTK compat), but adding things gets expensive fast

oooh.... aaahhh...

so, when can can i have it in my mailbox?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [REVIVED]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 March 2018, 00:39:51
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qY8QDJM.jpg)


here is the compat, i finally got the render from JTK

removing anything won't reduce cost (this is standard JTK compat), but adding things gets expensive fast

oooh.... aaahhh...

so, when can can i have it in my mailbox?

working that out now, i'm thinking of opening the GB in early may
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: Fooblitzky on Fri, 30 March 2018, 01:54:16
Is this still the same red as JTK White on Red "Coca-Cola" theme? Is the color accurate to that JTK render?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 March 2018, 01:57:56
Is this still the same red as JTK White on Red "Coca-Cola" theme? Is the color accurate to that JTK render?

the same red, yeah

dunno about color accuracy, haven't seen it in person yet

they sent me a cola set, actually, but it's still in transit
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 30 March 2018, 09:25:20
thanks pudddddsy - i think the red is darker than you had envisioned from the start - but its perfect for me

does JTK not make scoooooops?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 March 2018, 10:49:34
thanks pudddddsy - i think the red is darker than you had envisioned from the start - but its perfect for me

does JTK not make scoooooops?

They do not have scoops. I asked.

I'm still pretty happy with the color. I'll make a final judgement once the sample set comes in, but I think JTK's standard red will be OK for this.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: dubious on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:21:41
thanks pudddddsy - i think the red is darker than you had envisioned from the start - but its perfect for me

does JTK not make scoooooops?

They do not have scoops. I asked.

I'm still pretty happy with the color. I'll make a final judgement once the sample set comes in, but I think JTK's standard red will be OK for this.

and no windowed caps?

Still a great price though, interested in how the samples come out
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:24:27
thanks pudddddsy - i think the red is darker than you had envisioned from the start - but its perfect for me

does JTK not make scoooooops?

They do not have scoops. I asked.

I'm still pretty happy with the color. I'll make a final judgement once the sample set comes in, but I think JTK's standard red will be OK for this.

or windowed caps?

They have those, but I was told they are difficult to produce reliably. Since the switch to JTK was meant to keep costs down, they're not in this round. Adding 2 R1 1u blanks, windowed full caps, and a windowed stepped caps would add about $7 to the base cost of the set. I like the even $50 we have now.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: dubious on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:31:04

Thanks for the reply, good to know! Still looking forward to the set, and FWIW I wouldn't mind paying 7 bucks for the windowed caps  ;D :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [RENDER IN]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:34:17

Thanks for the reply, good to know! Still looking forward to the set, and FWIW I wouldn't mind paying 7 bucks for the windowed caps  ;D :thumb:

i might run some JTK accents later, depending on the results of yolch

we'll see
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 31 March 2018, 11:39:26
GB May 1st.

http://www.switchmod.net/product/gb-jtk-red-riot
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: nickheller on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:12:20
I have literally owned JTK set with scoops
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: xondat on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:15:39
I have literally owned JTK set with scoops

Which?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: nickheller on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:21:06
I have literally owned JTK set with scoops

Which?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71630.0
And after a quick look at the JTK sets on originativeco.com, those have them too.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:51:11
I have literally owned JTK set with scoops

Which?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71630.0
And after a quick look at the JTK sets on originativeco.com, those have them too.

I'll ask again, maybe the molds changed since those were made.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: clasicks on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:53:24
https://www.originativeco.com/products/toxic

this set was just ran with both bars and scoops.

Would be awesome to get both here, but wont be a deal breaker
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 31 March 2018, 12:58:27
i don't want to speak for puddsy...and i would be a hypocrite and a liar if i said he didn't deserve a little ribbing on his projects...but i would assume if they said no it is because they don't have blank scoops...and would required a little extra sauce to make it happen...i agree scoops are king...but the tone of this thread seams to be keepn the cost as low as possible

i saw the render on krelbits site...it looks crimson compared to some of the renders posted in the thread and look better imo

Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 April 2018, 10:47:46
Just a little update about scoops: It seems like there's a little bit of a language barrier in conveying what they are, so I think that might be why they said they didn't have them before. I asked for pricing on them, I think we might have to get some other extras along with them, so it may add about $7-10 to the final cost of the set. I'll keep this thread updated.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: futurecrime on Sun, 01 April 2018, 14:44:27
Still well in for this. Got two boards coming I reckon it'll look great on.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 April 2018, 20:46:07
ok so the set already has scoops in it, mystery solved

i should have guessed, since yolch has scoops in the render he sent me
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: clasicks on Sun, 01 April 2018, 21:02:38
nice, now to wait 4 weeks till gb start
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:40:12
i don't remember where someone asked me, but they asked about changing the nubbin to a bar on the numpad key

turns out it's the same issue with the accent keys in yolch: they're molded at the same time as other stuff, so there would have to be a bunch of other stuff tacked on that we don't really need and would add more cost then intended

so we're stuck with the numpad nubbin
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 03 April 2018, 01:02:59
[attachimg=1]

more renders incoming, will be added to OP soon

featuring the new color and better lighting than hiney did before
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 03 April 2018, 12:49:50
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3][attach=4]

here are some hineybush renders
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: gizmoplex on Thu, 05 April 2018, 23:37:25
Is it possible to add 6u spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 06 April 2018, 02:00:09
Is it possible to add 6u spacebar?
Yes, but not without a cost for everyone involved with the buy.


In its current state, this set is like, 90% finalized for sale. The introduction of any keys to this set would push the price of the whole thing up by $3-4. Since we're trying to run this for a fairly low price introducing keys is pretty much out of the question at this point.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: gizmoplex on Fri, 06 April 2018, 05:06:54
Is it possible to add 6u spacebar?
Yes, but not without a cost for everyone involved with the buy.


In its current state, this set is like, 90% finalized for sale. The introduction of any keys to this set would push the price of the whole thing up by $3-4. Since we're trying to run this for a fairly low price introducing keys is pretty much out of the question at this point.

Ah I see. Totally understand. Probably should've mention it early on. It's just I have this one particular board (the only board that I own with 6u spacebar) that I think will look pretty badass with red riot. But still considering to join this GB though with or without the 6u, the price is a steal!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 06 April 2018, 12:37:11
Is it possible to add 6u spacebar?
Yes, but not without a cost for everyone involved with the buy.


In its current state, this set is like, 90% finalized for sale. The introduction of any keys to this set would push the price of the whole thing up by $3-4. Since we're trying to run this for a fairly low price introducing keys is pretty much out of the question at this point.

what he said
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 17 April 2018, 14:42:06
Hey bud - how long will the GB be open and how long is the estimated time frame for production?

Are the layouts in OP final?

cheers, gl excited
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 April 2018, 15:22:38
Hey bud - how long will the GB be open and how long is the estimated time frame for production?

Are the layouts in OP final?

cheers, gl excited

may 1 to may 28

lead time ~3 months, hopefully less

layout in the JTK render in OP is final
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 17 April 2018, 16:20:46
hi sir where are the nipples
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: ye_cole on Thu, 19 April 2018, 00:26:34
 why does JTK have production periods?

Asking because i think maxkey seems to have something similar, and curious as to why.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 April 2018, 18:22:47
why does JTK have production periods?

Asking because i think maxkey seems to have something similar, and curious as to why.

they don't own the factory, so they have to buy production time in blocks

they can do it whenever (or whenever the factory has capacity for it), but since they don't do year round production, they don't need to own all the machines and stuff

this also plays into the theory that maxkey made new tooling, rather than the other theory that they bought/found old SP tooling

at least that's how i understand it from what they told me, i'll ask them if there's anything i need to clarify

i believe they're working up to a full scale factory, they showed me some stuff they're working on, it's worth getting excited about
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 April 2018, 13:30:15
EU and China proxies are confirmed. Caps-Unlocked.com for the Europeans, and zFrontier for China.

Product pages coming soon. 
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: xondat on Sun, 22 April 2018, 13:32:02
Will CU mark the price up loads again?

For GMK Doom it was cheaper to buy from NA and import instead of someone in the same country.

Good to see stuff moving though. ;D
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 April 2018, 16:05:06
Will CU mark the price up loads again?

For GMK Doom it was cheaper to buy from NA and import instead of someone in the same country.

Good to see stuff moving though. ;D

Should be about 50 GBP for Red Riot (have to double check this one, seems a lil high), and 80 GBP for Yolch at lowest MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: xondat on Sun, 22 April 2018, 16:14:05
Will CU mark the price up loads again?

For GMK Doom it was cheaper to buy from NA and import instead of someone in the same country.

Good to see stuff moving though. ;D

Should be about 50 GBP for Red Riot (have to double check this one, seems a lil high), and 80 GBP for Yolch at lowest MOQ.

Good to hear.

Lowest MOQ meaning 100 or 400? Presume 100.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 April 2018, 16:26:20
Will CU mark the price up loads again?

For GMK Doom it was cheaper to buy from NA and import instead of someone in the same country.

Good to see stuff moving though. ;D

Should be about 50 GBP for Red Riot (have to double check this one, seems a lil high), and 80 GBP for Yolch at lowest MOQ.

Good to hear.

Lowest MOQ meaning 100 or 400? Presume 100.

yeah, 100

and those prices are VAT included
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Red Riot [GB MAY 1]
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 01 May 2018, 00:31:44
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95402.0

GB has begun!