Cherry MX Silver Switches - Appreciation & Discussion Thread

[digi]

Revolutionary Cherry Silver switches need a new thread.

They're short and fast (like Halverson) and we need to appreciate them.

RGB information - http://www.cherry.de/cid/keymodules_CHERRY_MX_SPEED_RGB_Silver.htm

Buy them, use them, post about them here.

[Halverson]

Revolutionary Cherry Silver switches need a new thread.

They're short and fast (like Halverson) and we need to appreciate them.

RGB information - http://www.cherry.de/cid/keymodules_CHERRY_MX_SPEED_RGB_Silver.htm

Buy them, use them, post about them here.

Gotta go fast!

I really want to try them, with heavier springs.

NEED TO BUILD ANOTHER KEYBOARD

[SpAmRaY]

These will make me type faster right? I need this...can we combine the silver with silencing though? Finally have cherry cloud switches...

[Halverson]

These will make me type faster right? I need this...can we combine the silver with silencing though? Finally have cherry cloud switches...

Has anyone tried cotton as a landing pad?

[Puddsy]

do want

[digi]

I've been using them for a while now and I can tell you that I really like the shorter travel distance, something I think I would actually put in my korean custom 

[Halverson]

I've been using them for a while now and I can tell you that I really like the shorter travel distance, something I think I would actually put in my korean custom 

Spring swap em for me!

[digi]

I've been using them for a while now and I can tell you that I really like the shorter travel distance, something I think I would actually put in my korean custom 

Spring swap em for me!

I need some of you spring nerds to figure out what springs come in these switches, here is the cN:

• Initial force: 30 cN min.
• Actuation force: 45 ± 15 cN

I'd be happy to try some different springs once I figure out which ones to get!

[Halverson]

I've been using them for a while now and I can tell you that I really like the shorter travel distance, something I think I would actually put in my korean custom 

Spring swap em for me!

I need some of you spring nerds to figure out what springs come in these switches, here is the cN:

• Initial force: 30 cN min.
• Actuation force: 45 ± 15 cN

I'd be happy to try some different springs once I figure out which ones to get!

I thought they were just red springs, toss some black springs in!

[digi]

I've been using them for a while now and I can tell you that I really like the shorter travel distance, something I think I would actually put in my korean custom 

Spring swap em for me!

I need some of you spring nerds to figure out what springs come in these switches, here is the cN:

• Initial force: 30 cN min.
• Actuation force: 45 ± 15 cN

I'd be happy to try some different springs once I figure out which ones to get!

I thought they were just red springs, toss some black springs in!

They might be shorter springs tho!

[mech0nly]

Hmmm okay, time to build Osu board


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[dante]

They might be shorter springs tho!

I could be wrong but I find it difficult to believe Cherry would invest the money / increase complexity of production by introducing a new size spring.

[dantan]

• Initial force: 30 cN min.
• Actuation force: 45 ± 15 cN

Aren't these just shorter throw reds? Cherry has finally realized that people like shorter actuation distances right?

[digi]

They might be shorter springs tho!

I could be wrong but I find it difficult to believe Cherry would invest the money / increase complexity of production by introducing a new size spring.

Yea, I have no idea, I need to take one apart..you're probably right.

[dante]

I mentioned it in another thread but I'll mention it here too: I wish Cherry would create a franken switch that combines the Silver stem + Nature spring + Silencing.

[SpAmRaY]

I mentioned it in another thread but I'll mention it here too: I wish Cherry would create a franken switch that combines the Silver stem + Nature spring + Silencing.

What's the deal with the nature white?

 I'm behind the times.

[dante]

I mentioned it in another thread but I'll mention it here too: I wish Cherry would create a franken switch that combines the Silver stem + Nature spring + Silencing.

What's the deal with the nature white?

 I'm behind the times.

It's weight is between Red and Black, more towards Black.

[Tally810]

I have some cherry speeds and they are so light I make a lot of mistakes while typing.  With the short travel they feel lighter than reds.  For gaming they are pretty nice.

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[ygor]

Really should have called these Globals and not Silvers. FeelsBadMan

[digi]

These switches are really good. I might have a hard time going back to conventional linear's. Anyone else cop some Silvers yet?

[ygor]

I just picked up the Ducky One TKL with Silvers. It'll be here on Saturday... We shall see what the hype is all about...

[digi]

I just picked up the Ducky One TKL with Silvers. It'll be here on Saturday... We shall see what the hype is all about...

Welcome to the inner circle.

[KnivesM]

They might be shorter springs tho!

I could be wrong but I find it difficult to believe Cherry would invest the money / increase complexity of production by introducing a new size spring.

Edit: I am Dumb.

[digi]

They might be shorter springs tho!

I could be wrong but I find it difficult to believe Cherry would invest the money / increase complexity of production by introducing a new size spring.

They are shorter, I saw a pic the other day comparing on /r/mk but I can't find that so I took one of mine apart.

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Here it is next to a MX Silent Black and MX Red.

Thanks for posting that, saved me time tearing into mine. These are a game changer for sure!

[OfTheWild]

So where can we obtain these new switches from Cherry with out having to harvest a corsair board? I am trying to find some silent blacks.

[digi]

So where can we obtain these new switches from Cherry with out having to harvest a corsair board? I am trying to find some silent blacks.

I don't think anyone has them yet, I've been checking MK, I'm sure they will pop up soon, maybe email them or something..

[SpAmRaY]

Update on individual Cherry Silver/Speed switches?

No ETA yet...

FYI

This would be a good candidate for harvesting maybe

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2166

It should have some resell value between the guts and the caps and not a bunch of led's to desolder...unless you want the fancy RGB ones like digi 

The alternative is watching eBay for a good price on a used corsair board
 

[digi]

Update on individual Cherry Silver/Speed switches?

No ETA yet...

FYI

Doh, well i'm not much in a rush either, I won't have my kit until summer anyways. I'm going to be looking for the RGB silvers.

[Marvellion]

I saw some MX Silvers (RGB ones I think) for sale on TaoBao for 1.45 per switch (ouch), no idea about their authenticity although shop was rated very highly.

[merlin64]

So what makes them "fast", is it just the shorter spring leads to smaller actuation point? It's gotta be something with the stem or metal contacts, otherwise someone would have already made short springs to mod their switches.

[digi]

So what makes them "fast", is it just the shorter spring leads to smaller actuation point? It's gotta be something with the stem or metal contacts, otherwise someone would have already made short springs to mod their switches.

Copied this from Tomshardware:

Actuation point on Silvers are 1.2mm compared to 2mm on Reds
Total Travel on Silvers are 3.4mm compared to 4mm on Reds

Now that we know the spring is shorter, I would think it would be safe to assume the stem is also shorter but i don't know for sure.

[JDragon]

They might be shorter springs tho!

I could be wrong but I find it difficult to believe Cherry would invest the money / increase complexity of production by introducing a new size spring.

They are shorter, I saw a pic the other day comparing on /r/mk but I can't find that so I took one of mine apart.

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Here it is next to a MX Silent Black and MX Red.

Have you tried stem swapping it into another switch?

[OfTheWild]

Well i mean they're out there for sure, I just got a couple of each with my Vortex 22-key switch tester set from Massdrop. Just need to find a source. (this kit also included some of the "new" cherry blacks and a large logo vintage black for comparison... gotta say, cherry did a huge improvement in their new blacks... huge.)

As for the silvers... i can take a pic if you want, they are physically about 1mm shorter to bottom than say a standard red switch.

[chyros]

These switches are no longer exclusive to Corsair and other manufacturers will be marketing them in the future, too, from what I understood.

[Hyde]

I mentioned it in another thread but I'll mention it here too: I wish Cherry would create a franken switch that combines the Silver stem + Nature spring + Silencing.

What's the deal with the nature white?

 I'm behind the times.

It's weight is between Red and Black, more towards Black.

Oh yeah definitely need this, though I don't like the silencing it reduce key travel also makes key feel more mushy.

But we definitely need MX Silver stem + MX Nature White weight. 

[OfTheWild]

Silver on the left, red on the right...

[Skull_Angel]

Is this basically a production model of the jail-house blues?

[merlin64]

Jail house blues are tactile, these are linear

[Skull_Angel]

Jail house blues are tactile, these are linear

Yeah, but I mean the main concept behind jail-house blues was to raise the point of actuation, no? Either way, happy to see more/upgraded variants.

[Entropia]

If they are like reds with a shorter travel, wouldn't it be too difficult to make soft typing without bottoming out?

[Puddsy]

If they are like reds with a shorter travel, wouldn't it be too difficult to make soft typing without bottoming out?

MX Silvers are meant as a gaming switch through and through, so I don't think that's a real concern of the target market.

[Spaceman1200]

Are these smoother then regular mx switches?

[quake4mhg]

Jail house blues are tactile, these are linear

Yeah, but I mean the main concept behind jail-house blues was to raise the point of actuation, no? Either way, happy to see more/upgraded variants.

Exactly I've been doing to raise the actuation point for years.



Recently with Zealencio Silencing Clips too.
Definitely want to try mx silver 

[digi]

Are these smoother then regular mx switches?

To me they are, less travel distance = less surface area that could come in contact with each other, this simple math equation should cover it:

2(pi r 2) + (2 pi r)* h

[ygor]

Got the board a day early... Put some PBT caps on it with 40A-R dampeners. These are buttery smooth and super quiet. Very nice. FeelsGoodMan

[OfTheWild]

Are these smoother then regular mx switches?

To me they are, less travel distance = less surface area that could come in contact with each other, this simple math equation should cover it:

2(pi r 2) + (2 pi r)* h

From my experience, the new rgb compatible Cherry switches are also smoother than they used to be.

[dante]

Looks like KBParadise is coming out with a MX Silver board too:

[davkol]

Appreciation for Cherry catching up with ALPS Electric… except ~25 years later?

Alps SKCM/SKCL always had a higher actuation point (MX Silver) and even got damping (MX Silent) over 20 years ago. In all switches, including tactile.

[dante]

Appreciation for Cherry catching up with ALPS Electric… except ~25 years later?

Alps SKCM/SKCL always had a higher actuation point (MX Silver) and even got damping (MX Silent) over 20 years ago. In all switches, including tactile.

I always chuckle when a keyboard comes out with NKRO NKRO NKRO!!!!!! <-- Welcome to the 80's (or earlier?) my friends!

[tp4tissue]

Appreciation for Cherry catching up with ALPS Electric… except ~25 years later?

Alps SKCM/SKCL always had a higher actuation point (MX Silver) and even got damping (MX Silent) over 20 years ago. In all switches, including tactile.

I always chuckle when a keyboard comes out with NKRO NKRO NKRO!!!!!! <-- Welcome to the 80's (or earlier?) my friends!

The geeks were WAYYY geekier back then.. They were engineers..

The majority of the geeks as the term encircles today are just i-zombies addicted to media consumption.


Much like the consumerist crowd here buying yet another keyboard that does nothing more than the four other ones they own.