Standing Desk - Swole Feet & Ankles

[xtrafrood]

I can sleep now. Totally worth it IMHO. A few weeks ago I said to myself, "Hey, maybe I can throw together a standing desk with some stuff I have laying around the house." I slept really well that night so I kept standing. Plus I was able to match a popular standing desk height (42-43in) so why not? The only problem is my feet and ankles are still swelling. Last night I elevated my feet as I slept and that helped out considerably. I'll go see a doctor if my feet turn blue. They're not blue atm so I think I'm good. Anyone else have the same experience? I'm totally building a standing desk (maybe 44-45in) with room for a stool to slide underneath (I use a stool for stand/sit atm). It seems like women write about this problem more often than men because of difference in shoes. Maybe I tie my boots too tight? Maybe my heels are too tall? Maybe I should sit more than 30-60mins per day?

You guys experience this too?

[tp4tissue]

You need --wider-- shoes.


Normal shoes typically do now allow the feet to spread outward naturally.

Your weight will influence the degree to which it's compressed.


Easiest is Sandals.. but if you're at work..  maybe have a pair of sandals for IN your cubicle, and the regular shoe for leaving the cubicle..

[absyrd]

You have to move around with a standing desk. Adjust your position, do some leg lifts (bonus amazing calf muscles), step away for a minute, and so on.

[xtrafrood]

You need --wider-- shoes.


Normal shoes typically do now allow the feet to spread outward naturally.

Your weight will influence the degree to which it's compressed.


Easiest is Sandals.. but if you're at work..  maybe have a pair of sandals for IN your cubicle, and the regular shoe for leaving the cubicle..

I wear EEE Lugz man. I hope I don't need wider shoes

You have to move around with a standing desk. Adjust your position, do some leg lifts (bonus amazing calf muscles), step away for a minute, and so on.

I started doing this today. I'm feeling a bit more circulation, especially in my calf muscles

[tp4tissue]

You need --wider-- shoes.


Normal shoes typically do now allow the feet to spread outward naturally.

Your weight will influence the degree to which it's compressed.


Easiest is Sandals.. but if you're at work..  maybe have a pair of sandals for IN your cubicle, and the regular shoe for leaving the cubicle..

I wear EEE Lugz man. I hope I don't need wider shoes

Well then do this.. take your feet,  while seated, put it on a piece of paper..  now put as much weight on it as you can with your muscles..


Trace it out..

Compare that to the interior dimension of your shoe , especially the front where your toes begin- and ends..

That part is typically the cause of the problem. while standing.. because it's wider -naturally,   than you think. 

[xtrafrood]

You need --wider-- shoes.


Normal shoes typically do now allow the feet to spread outward naturally.

Your weight will influence the degree to which it's compressed.


Easiest is Sandals.. but if you're at work..  maybe have a pair of sandals for IN your cubicle, and the regular shoe for leaving the cubicle..

I wear EEE Lugz man. I hope I don't need wider shoes

Well then do this.. take your feet,  while seated, put it on a piece of paper..  now put as much weight on it as you can with your muscles..


Trace it out..

Compare that to the interior dimension of your shoe , especially the front where your toes begin- and ends..

That part is typically the cause of the problem. while standing.. because it's wider -naturally,   than you think.

I totally get why people wear Birkenstocks now. Tracing my feet sounds like way too much work

[chuckdee]

You have to move around with a standing desk. Adjust your position, do some leg lifts (bonus amazing calf muscles), step away for a minute, and so on.

This.  The idea is not to stay in one position for the entire session.  Changing that to standing just changes your problems.  Also, you might want to get a mat.  It's a world of difference since I got mine.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KJT547K/

A good article on some of the things people do wrong with standing desks: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-things-youre-wrong-standing-desk/

[xtrafrood]

You have to move around with a standing desk. Adjust your position, do some leg lifts (bonus amazing calf muscles), step away for a minute, and so on.

This.  The idea is not to stay in one position for the entire session.  Changing that to standing just changes your problems.  Also, you might want to get a mat.  It's a world of difference since I got mine.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KJT547K/

A good article on some of the things people do wrong with standing desks: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-things-youre-wrong-standing-desk/

Some good tips in that article. My shoes are made of that squishy non-skid rubber that might as well be an anti-fatigue mat but an actual mat wouldn't hurt. Maybe I'll get a mat with chili peppers on it or something like that. Kitchy but spicy at the same time.

[Robotical]

You have to move around with a standing desk. Adjust your position, do some leg lifts (bonus amazing calf muscles), step away for a minute, and so on.

This.  The idea is not to stay in one position for the entire session.  Changing that to standing just changes your problems.  Also, you might want to get a mat.  It's a world of difference since I got mine.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KJT547K/

A good article on some of the things people do wrong with standing desks: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-things-youre-wrong-standing-desk/

Some good tips in that article. My shoes are made of that squishy non-skid rubber that might as well be an anti-fatigue mat but an actual mat wouldn't hurt. Maybe I'll get a mat with chili peppers on it or something like that. Kitchy but spicy at the same time.

Uline also has some decent mats: https://www.uline.com/BL_1752/Cadillac-Mats. We use them in areas where we have to spend extended amounts of time standing.

[iLLucionist]

You need --wider-- shoes.


Normal shoes typically do now allow the feet to spread outward naturally.

Your weight will influence the degree to which it's compressed.


Easiest is Sandals.. but if you're at work..  maybe have a pair of sandals for IN your cubicle, and the regular shoe for leaving the cubicle..

Linus, is that you?

[iLLucionist]

Oorr.... alternatively... admit that standing desks were a bad idea and go back to sitting!

Sounds like a nice project and all, but I really believe that standing desks are bed for yah. Locking up your knees, bad for your veins, restricting blood flow. Why? I can only think of marketing invented the standing desk nothing more.

[hoggy]

I'm seconding on Robotical's suggestion for anti-fatique mats.  I'd also suggest that you find excuses to walk around the building, or even just go for a walk around the building.  Can you take your shoes off at work for a bit of variety? (although the height difference might be too much). 

[swangful]

Oorr.... alternatively... admit that standing desks were a bad idea and go back to sitting!

Sounds like a nice project and all, but I really believe that standing desks are bed for yah. Locking up your knees, bad for your veins, restricting blood flow. Why? I can only think of marketing invented the standing desk nothing more.

Anything used improperly can be bad for you. I built my own standing desk for $14 and I can never go back to a normal desk.
As you stated, people dont do it properly...

• Locking their knees
• Not moving around
• Not having good posture

Do yourself a favor and try it in its correct form. Something like this



This allows you to
- build it to YOUR height
- Arms bent at a correct angle to allow for no wrist pains
- Your eyes looking straight forward instead of down or up
- and just get a tall stool if you feel like sitting

Think about it this way....
Laying down. We generally sleep for 7-8 hours a day. That leaves us with 16-17 hours left.
Sitting. We work 8 hours a day. We are sitting for 8 hours. 8-9 hours remain.
Sitting. Commuting to and from work is generally 1 hour to 2 hours. 6-7 hours remaind.
Sitting. We eat dinner, watch tv, play some video games, hobbies for the remainder.

Do you even stand for more than 2 hours a day? How is that healthy?
We evolved to be standing, moving, running. Not sitting on our ass for 20+ hours.

Of course this can be different if you work at a job that requires physical labor, but I assume since you are into MK's you probably are not in that field.

EDIT: Forgot to reply to OP...if you are just starting out the standing desk habit, that is kind of expected. You do not have to stand all day.
Definitely make sure to sit or move around until you feel more and more comfortable standing for longer durations. Ease into it

[noisyturtle]

Get some Ultra Boosts and you'll want to stand all day

[iLLucionist]

Oorr.... alternatively... admit that standing desks were a bad idea and go back to sitting!

Sounds like a nice project and all, but I really believe that standing desks are bed for yah. Locking up your knees, bad for your veins, restricting blood flow. Why? I can only think of marketing invented the standing desk nothing more.

Anything used improperly can be bad for you. I built my own standing desk for $14 and I can never go back to a normal desk.
As you stated, people dont do it properly...

• Locking their knees
• Not moving around
• Not having good posture

Do yourself a favor and try it in its correct form. Something like this

Show Image

This allows you to
- build it to YOUR height
- Arms bent at a correct angle to allow for no wrist pains
- Your eyes looking straight forward instead of down or up
- and just get a tall stool if you feel like sitting

Think about it this way....
Laying down. We generally sleep for 7-8 hours a day. That leaves us with 16-17 hours left.
Sitting. We work 8 hours a day. We are sitting for 8 hours. 8-9 hours remain.
Sitting. Commuting to and from work is generally 1 hour to 2 hours. 6-7 hours remaind.
Sitting. We eat dinner, watch tv, play some video games, hobbies for the remainder.

Do you even stand for more than 2 hours a day? How is that healthy?
We evolved to be standing, moving, running. Not sitting on our ass for 20+ hours.

Of course this can be different if you work at a job that requires physical labor, but I assume since you are into MK's you probably are not in that field.

EDIT: Forgot to reply to OP...if you are just starting out the standing desk habit, that is kind of expected. You do not have to stand all day.
Definitely make sure to sit or move around until you feel more and more comfortable standing for longer durations. Ease into it :D

Good points made, looks like a nice clever setup.

It's funnty... there is this Dutch saying "het is niet zitten of staan, maar liggen of gaan". Which loosely translates as "you shouldn't sit or stand, but lay down or move".

[swangful]

Oorr.... alternatively... admit that standing desks were a bad idea and go back to sitting!

Sounds like a nice project and all, but I really believe that standing desks are bed for yah. Locking up your knees, bad for your veins, restricting blood flow. Why? I can only think of marketing invented the standing desk nothing more.

Anything used improperly can be bad for you. I built my own standing desk for $14 and I can never go back to a normal desk.
As you stated, people dont do it properly...

• Locking their knees
• Not moving around
• Not having good posture

Do yourself a favor and try it in its correct form. Something like this

Show Image

This allows you to
- build it to YOUR height
- Arms bent at a correct angle to allow for no wrist pains
- Your eyes looking straight forward instead of down or up
- and just get a tall stool if you feel like sitting

Think about it this way....
Laying down. We generally sleep for 7-8 hours a day. That leaves us with 16-17 hours left.
Sitting. We work 8 hours a day. We are sitting for 8 hours. 8-9 hours remain.
Sitting. Commuting to and from work is generally 1 hour to 2 hours. 6-7 hours remaind.
Sitting. We eat dinner, watch tv, play some video games, hobbies for the remainder.

Do you even stand for more than 2 hours a day? How is that healthy?
We evolved to be standing, moving, running. Not sitting on our ass for 20+ hours.

Of course this can be different if you work at a job that requires physical labor, but I assume since you are into MK's you probably are not in that field.

EDIT: Forgot to reply to OP...if you are just starting out the standing desk habit, that is kind of expected. You do not have to stand all day.
Definitely make sure to sit or move around until you feel more and more comfortable standing for longer durations. Ease into it :D

Good points made, looks like a nice clever setup.

It's funnty... there is this Dutch saying "het is niet zitten of staan, maar liggen of gaan". Which loosely translates as "you shouldn't sit or stand, but lay down or move".

That is a great saying. Now if only I could pronounce it :P

[xtrafrood]

Oorr.... alternatively... admit that standing desks were a bad idea and go back to sitting!

Sounds like a nice project and all, but I really believe that standing desks are bed for yah. Locking up your knees, bad for your veins, restricting blood flow. Why? I can only think of marketing invented the standing desk nothing more.

Anything used improperly can be bad for you. I built my own standing desk for $14 and I can never go back to a normal desk.
As you stated, people dont do it properly...

• Locking their knees
• Not moving around
• Not having good posture

Do yourself a favor and try it in its correct form. Something like this

Show Image

This allows you to
- build it to YOUR height
- Arms bent at a correct angle to allow for no wrist pains
- Your eyes looking straight forward instead of down or up
- and just get a tall stool if you feel like sitting

Think about it this way....
Laying down. We generally sleep for 7-8 hours a day. That leaves us with 16-17 hours left.
Sitting. We work 8 hours a day. We are sitting for 8 hours. 8-9 hours remain.
Sitting. Commuting to and from work is generally 1 hour to 2 hours. 6-7 hours remaind.
Sitting. We eat dinner, watch tv, play some video games, hobbies for the remainder.

Do you even stand for more than 2 hours a day? How is that healthy?
We evolved to be standing, moving, running. Not sitting on our ass for 20+ hours.

Of course this can be different if you work at a job that requires physical labor, but I assume since you are into MK's you probably are not in that field.

EDIT: Forgot to reply to OP...if you are just starting out the standing desk habit, that is kind of expected. You do not have to stand all day.
Definitely make sure to sit or move around until you feel more and more comfortable standing for longer durations. Ease into it :D

I like to sleep. That's why I do it; not because standing desks are 'trending'. I'll have to do a mockup of the desk to make sure the monitor mounting is eye level. That setup looks so comfy :)

I'm seconding on Robotical's suggestion for anti-fatique mats.  I'd also suggest that you find excuses to walk around the building, or even just go for a walk around the building.  Can you take your shoes off at work for a bit of variety? (although the height difference might be too much). 

Some years ago my boss had one of those Uline catalogs sitting around. I was monitoring a server that was connected to a bunch of parimutuel wagering terminals and only needed to 'work' whenever there was an error or a phone call; so I had some time to kill. I could look at that catalog and the many boxes it contained for hours on end. I forgot about those mats! They can span the length of the desk and then some! I actually don't like to take my shoes off when I'm in a public space for some reason. Not because of smells. I just like to have my shoes on.

Get some Ultra Boosts and you'll want to stand all day ;)

Maybe some Janoski MAXs :D

[chuckdee]

I like to sleep. That's why I do it; not because standing desks are 'trending'.

Exactly.  I do it because my doctor recommended it for blood flow.  And he basically told me that I shouldn't do it all the time- I just shouldn't sit for hours at a time without movement.  And I started working at home, so was even more sedentary.

[SpAmRaY]

Man I need to see about switching to using a standing desk at least part of the time....I'm sitting for a minimum 12 hours a day....

[SixtyLife]

pretty good reviews for this one: https://www.amazon.com/TerraMat-Standing-Desk-Mat-Workstations/dp/B01N0DGA00

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 is standing right now...

Can feel better Chi Flow..

I am channeling it @ the screen right now,  ya'llz feelin' it ?

[pr0ximity]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

[iLLucionist]

Tp4 is standing right now...

Can feel better Chi Flow..

I am channeling it @ the screen right now,  ya'llz feelin' it ?

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Aww my gaawd. I CAN FEEL IT. It's it's... so intense! TP TAI CHI MAN.

But yeah... at my office we are also being fed standing desks with a motor to heighten / lower them. They also have a memory function so that you can save 3 positions. Aside from often changing position, they also gave us these "sitting bikes"...

IF I WANT TO SPORT I GO OUT AND SPORT. WTF. Seriously.

And now my colleagues who are lazy as hell are like "oh I already had my exercise via my sitting bike". And there I am.. racing cyclist for sports hobby. Doing my 50-60 km rounds. And there you have lazy colleague who did one or two cycles and is obese as hell "I sport now".

[tp4tissue]

And now my colleagues who are lazy as hell are like "oh I already had my exercise via my sitting bike". And there I am.. racing cyclist for sports hobby. Doing my 50-60 km rounds. And there you have lazy colleague who did one or two cycles and is obese as hell "I sport now".

If you look at the people around you from the perspectives of the Organizers.. 

That's exactly what they want,  sedentary individuals who are locked into a lifestyle they can not escape..

Being too fat, too docile, too complacent to challenge authority.

[xtrafrood]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

[iLLucionist]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

[xtrafrood]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

I stood on my feet. My body became tired. I now fall asleep without the need for pills. It's pretty simple.

[iLLucionist]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

I stood on my feet. My body became tired. I now fall asleep without the need for pills. It's pretty simple.

That's amazing, great that works for you.

[xtrafrood]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

I stood on my feet. My body became tired. I now fall asleep without the need for pills. It's pretty simple.

That's amazing, great that works for you.

It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Indeed.

[iLLucionist]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

I stood on my feet. My body became tired. I now fall asleep without the need for pills. It's pretty simple.

That's amazing, great that works for you.

It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Indeed.

Only thing that gets me into sleep when I don't manage to somehow is meditation, listening to rain / thunderstorm sounds, and 2-3 alcoholic beverages.

[tp4tissue]

 2-3 alcoholic beverages.

Yea that. !! hahahahah

[xtrafrood]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

I stood on my feet. My body became tired. I now fall asleep without the need for pills. It's pretty simple.

That's amazing, great that works for you.

It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Indeed.

Only thing that gets me into sleep when I don't manage to somehow is meditation, listening to rain / thunderstorm sounds, and 2-3 alcoholic beverages.

Rain and thunderstorm sounds cause me to think of tornados   Alcohol keeps me up too lol. I have problems

[tp4tissue]

Alcohol keeps me up too lol.

You just haven't drank enough..   /rookie mistake..

[xtrafrood]

If I drink too much I puke I don't 'black out' lol.

Anyway, ankles are back to normal now. I guess my feet just need to get use to being used again. I want to thank everyone that provided helpful advice and criticism

[davkol]

2-3 alcoholic beverages.

That's a terrible idea, because of withdrawal symptoms after the initial phase or two.

[iLLucionist]

 2-3 alcoholic beverages.

Yea that. !! hahahahah

not to late though... like... go sleep 23:00, drink 21:00-21:30.

[iLLucionist]

OP are you standing all day? Everything in moderation, should alternate between sitting/standing, take breaks to walk around, etc.

Staying in any one position, sitting or standing, for prolonged periods isn't good and will cause repetitive strain.

I slept so well after the first day though   I'm getting better at alternating between stand/sit. Yesterday wasn't so bad

What? What does sleeping have to do with it? I don't understand..

I stood on my feet. My body became tired. I now fall asleep without the need for pills. It's pretty simple.

That's amazing, great that works for you.

It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Indeed.

Only thing that gets me into sleep when I don't manage to somehow is meditation, listening to rain / thunderstorm sounds, and 2-3 alcoholic beverages.

Rain and thunderstorm sounds cause me to think of tornados   Alcohol keeps me up too lol. I have problems

Yeah we don't have tornados here so.. 1 alcoholic beverage actually works a bit like coffee. only after 2 or more you become to feel more relaxed. but yeah.. finding things helping you to sleep is a *****.

[iLLucionist]

2-3 alcoholic beverages.

That's a terrible idea, because of withdrawal symptoms after the initial phase or two.

yeah it's a pretty terrible idea. Ideally, I don't want to drink alcohol. I become used to it too quickly. I really have to watch that.

[tp4tissue]

If I drink too much I puke I don't 'black out' lol.

Anyway, ankles are back to normal now. I guess my feet just need to get use to being used again. I want to thank everyone that provided helpful advice and criticism

ur drinking the wrong stuff..

Straight vodka..  2 seconds   4shots... boom...  great sleep in 5 to 10 minutes.

[davkol]

2-3 alcoholic beverages.

That's a terrible idea, because of withdrawal symptoms after the initial phase or two.

yeah it's a pretty terrible idea. Ideally, I don't want to drink alcohol. I become used to it too quickly. I really have to watch that.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If alcoholism, well, drinking alcohol before bedtime is a bad idea regardless—for a variety of reasons, ranging from metabolic to brain activity. Even the "falling asleep faster" point means breaking the circadian rhythm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_use_and_sleep

[xtrafrood]

If I drink too much I puke I don't 'black out' lol.

Anyway, ankles are back to normal now. I guess my feet just need to get use to being used again. I want to thank everyone that provided helpful advice and criticism

ur drinking the wrong stuff..

Straight vodka..  2 seconds   4shots... boom...  great sleep in 5 to 10 minutes.

Lord, someone teach tp4 how to drink properly. Vodka is weak sauce. Since we're on the topic; if I had the choice of 5-8 shots of whiskey and stay up all night, or stand at a desk all day and go to sleep at a decent hour, I choose standing at a desk lol.

[iLLucionist]

If I drink too much I puke I don't 'black out' lol.

Anyway, ankles are back to normal now. I guess my feet just need to get use to being used again. I want to thank everyone that provided helpful advice and criticism

ur drinking the wrong stuff..

Straight vodka..  2 seconds   4shots... boom...  great sleep in 5 to 10 minutes.

TP... must have so many friends coz his style. i like. but for me its not vodka but cognac. or "coonieejaacc" like my bros in the hood like to call it.

[iLLucionist]

2-3 alcoholic beverages.

That's a terrible idea, because of withdrawal symptoms after the initial phase or two.

yeah it's a pretty terrible idea. Ideally, I don't want to drink alcohol. I become used to it too quickly. I really have to watch that.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If alcoholism, well, drinking alcohol before bedtime is a bad idea regardless—for a variety of reasons, ranging from metabolic to brain activity. Even the "falling asleep faster" point means breaking the circadian rhythm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_use_and_sleep

Interesting... wasn't aware of these research findings. Thanks!

[tp4tissue]

TP... must have so many friends coz his style. i like. but for me its not vodka but cognac. or "coonieejaacc" like my bros in the hood like to call it.

Contrary to popular belief.  Tp4 haz literally  0x afk friends..   sigh...........

[iLLucionist]

TP... must have so many friends coz his style. i like. but for me its not vodka but cognac. or "coonieejaacc" like my bros in the hood like to call it.

Contrary to popular belief.  Tp4 haz literally  0x afk friends..   sigh...........

You should move TP! You're clearly in the wrong hood just sayin.. But yeah afk besides my GF and one BFF I also have 0 afk friends for some reason. wtfs up with that

[tp4tissue]

TP... must have so many friends coz his style. i like. but for me its not vodka but cognac. or "coonieejaacc" like my bros in the hood like to call it.

Contrary to popular belief.  Tp4 haz literally  0x afk friends..   sigh...........

You should move TP! You're clearly in the wrong hood just sayin.. But yeah afk besides my GF and one BFF I also have 0 afk friends for some reason. wtfs up with that

day fraid of our sheer power..

[xtrafrood]

Had to re-adjusted the desk to ~45in (~114cm) to alleviate some shoulder pain. Man, this standing desk stuff is risky business

[tp4tissue]

Had to re-adjusted the desk to ~45in (~114cm) to alleviate some shoulder pain. Man, this standing desk stuff is risky business

elbows should hang naturally @ ur sides.. the surface which holds up the keyboard should be 2-2.5 inches below your elbows..

And the keyboard should be tented to 55 degrees if possible.. 60-70 if you add counterweights.

[xtrafrood]

Had to re-adjusted the desk to ~45in (~114cm) to alleviate some shoulder pain. Man, this standing desk stuff is risky business

elbows should hang naturally @ ur sides.. the surface which holds up the keyboard should be 2-2.5 inches below your elbows..

And the keyboard should be tented to 55 degrees if possible.. 60-70 if you add counterweights.

Come over here and pay for my massages and I'll re-adjusted based on your specs. I dislike massages about as much as I dislike paying for them.

[riktors]

Definitely recommend a mat. I tend to minimize issues with a motorize sit/stand desk but even if I'm just standing for the afternoon or something the mat makes a notable difference. Especially in some of my work shoes which are not as comfortable in the arch. Also spent a little while experimenting with some minor height adjustments to make sure my shoulders were comfortable as well. It does take a bit of work to learn exactly where you need everything to be.

[xtrafrood]

Definitely recommend a mat. I tend to minimize issues with a motorize sit/stand desk but even if I'm just standing for the afternoon or something the mat makes a notable difference. Especially in some of my work shoes which are not as comfortable in the arch. Also spent a little while experimenting with some minor height adjustments to make sure my shoulders were comfortable as well. It does take a bit of work to learn exactly where you need everything to be.

A mat would help. Much better than wood floor if you ask me. I've been a standing desk user for nearly three months and my ankles/feet have just about returned to their normal size. The ruptured blood vessels will take a bit longer to heal I guess but I'm not a foot model so all is well. Forgetting to sit down might be one of my main problems.

[tp4tissue]

Definitely recommend a mat. I tend to minimize issues with a motorize sit/stand desk but even if I'm just standing for the afternoon or something the mat makes a notable difference. Especially in some of my work shoes which are not as comfortable in the arch. Also spent a little while experimenting with some minor height adjustments to make sure my shoulders were comfortable as well. It does take a bit of work to learn exactly where you need everything to be.

A mat would help. Much better than wood floor if you ask me. I've been a standing desk user for nearly three months and my ankles/feet have just about returned to their normal size. The ruptured blood vessels will take a bit longer to heal I guess but I'm not a foot model so all is well. Forgetting to sit down might be one of my main problems.

Inflammation brought upon by meat consumption..

[xtrafrood]

Definitely recommend a mat. I tend to minimize issues with a motorize sit/stand desk but even if I'm just standing for the afternoon or something the mat makes a notable difference. Especially in some of my work shoes which are not as comfortable in the arch. Also spent a little while experimenting with some minor height adjustments to make sure my shoulders were comfortable as well. It does take a bit of work to learn exactly where you need everything to be.

A mat would help. Much better than wood floor if you ask me. I've been a standing desk user for nearly three months and my ankles/feet have just about returned to their normal size. The ruptured blood vessels will take a bit longer to heal I guess but I'm not a foot model so all is well. Forgetting to sit down might be one of my main problems.

Inflammation brought upon by meat consumption..

Uh oh, tp4tissue has wandered away from the off topic sub-forum.

Ok, I'll bite but not from what you've mentioned. I quit cigs some years ago and kept the weight. I assume if you're of normal weight a lot of my problems would not be an issue for you. My skating weight has alluded me for a while now, and I'm starting a routine come Monday to change my nasty ways.

[tp4tissue]

Inflammation brought upon by meat consumption..

Uh oh, tp4tissue has wandered away from the off topic sub-forum.

Ok, I'll bite but not from what you've mentioned. I quit cigs some years ago and kept the weight. I assume if you're of normal weight a lot of my problems would not be an issue for you. My skating weight has alluded me for a while now, and I'm starting a routine come Monday to change my nasty ways.

Yea,  xercise and diet are both crucial..

However,  due to how DELICIOUS modern food has become,  the majority have been able to ignore the nutritional aspect,  EVEN THOUGH, they can still count up to 2000 and stay relatively --Not Fat--..

As always,  I recommend ya'll watch either Fork over Knives  or What the Health documentary..


It might save you from heartdisease / cancer / diabetus..


Tp4 am being naggy,  Tp4 understands,  However, Tp4 considers saving your life worthwhile enough..

[malthusthomas]

I use a standing desk. I bought an IKEA Jerker desk from what's essentially craigslist here. It has adjustable heights and so I set it up to standing desk specs for my situation. It's not practical to switch it to sitting and so I simply take several small breaks throughout the day where is sit down for a few minutes.

I've attached a picture I took of my desk a few months ago. Some things have changed since then but it's still a fairly good representation of my setup.

[tp4tissue]

I use a standing desk. I bought an IKEA Jerker desk from what's essentially craigslist here. It has adjustable heights and so I set it up to standing desk specs for my situation. It's not practical to switch it to sitting and so I simply take several small breaks throughout the day where is sit down for a few minutes.

I've attached a picture I took of my desk a few months ago. Some things have changed since then but it's still a fairly good representation of my setup.

You need a bigger monitor.. 38 inch 4k.   cheap chinese tvs of that size sell for $200-300 these days..  works great as monitors

[xtrafrood]

I use a standing desk. I bought an IKEA Jerker desk from what's essentially craigslist here. It has adjustable heights and so I set it up to standing desk specs for my situation. It's not practical to switch it to sitting and so I simply take several small breaks throughout the day where is sit down for a few minutes.

I've attached a picture I took of my desk a few months ago. Some things have changed since then but it's still a fairly good representation of my setup.

That looks cozy! I'm currently looking at a few monitor arms with trays. They're advertised as sit and stand and they seem to move around to accommodate a decent range. Dual monitor and extra trays for things like phones, keyboards, mice, wrist rests, and assorted office supplies. Replacing the desk would be nice but I still don't trust myself to keep a sit stand in stand mode just yet.

[tp4tissue]

I use a standing desk. I bought an IKEA Jerker desk from what's essentially craigslist here. It has adjustable heights and so I set it up to standing desk specs for my situation. It's not practical to switch it to sitting and so I simply take several small breaks throughout the day where is sit down for a few minutes.

I've attached a picture I took of my desk a few months ago. Some things have changed since then but it's still a fairly good representation of my setup.

That looks cozy! I'm currently looking at a few monitor arms with trays. They're advertised as sit and stand and they seem to move around to accommodate a decent range. Dual monitor and extra trays for things like phones, keyboards, mice, wrist rests, and assorted office supplies. Replacing the desk would be nice but I still don't trust myself to keep a sit stand in stand mode just yet.

Don't do sit/stand.

It's a major major hassle.. no body keeps up with the --mode change--,

Do 1 sit,  1 stand..      we are so fundamentally lazy, that taking the 30 seconds to prop the stand up and down is too much..


I got a standing and a sitting right next to each other..   if i get too p00ped , i just move 6 feet and sit.

[xtrafrood]

I use a standing desk. I bought an IKEA Jerker desk from what's essentially craigslist here. It has adjustable heights and so I set it up to standing desk specs for my situation. It's not practical to switch it to sitting and so I simply take several small breaks throughout the day where is sit down for a few minutes.

I've attached a picture I took of my desk a few months ago. Some things have changed since then but it's still a fairly good representation of my setup.

That looks cozy! I'm currently looking at a few monitor arms with trays. They're advertised as sit and stand and they seem to move around to accommodate a decent range. Dual monitor and extra trays for things like phones, keyboards, mice, wrist rests, and assorted office supplies. Replacing the desk would be nice but I still don't trust myself to keep a sit stand in stand mode just yet.

Don't do sit/stand.

It's a major major hassle.. no body keeps up with the --mode change--,

Do 1 sit,  1 stand..      we are so fundamentally lazy, that taking the 30 seconds to prop the stand up and down is too much..


I got a standing and a sitting right next to each other..   if i get too p00ped , i just move 6 feet and sit.

I probably sit for maybe 2-3hrs per week. It would be nice to accommodate a proper sit/stand into the mix even if I don't take advantage of it

[tp4tissue]

I probably sit for maybe 2-3hrs per week. It would be nice to accommodate a proper sit/stand into the mix even if I don't take advantage of it

Why even computer then...   go buy a horse,   do outside stuff..

[xtrafrood]

I probably sit for maybe 2-3hrs per week. It would be nice to accommodate a proper sit/stand into the mix even if I don't take advantage of it

Why even computer then...   go buy a horse,   do outside stuff..

I'm not sure I understand your logic. Go buy a horse? Why would I need a horse?

[malthusthomas]

...

That looks cozy! I'm currently looking at a few monitor arms with trays. They're advertised as sit and stand and they seem to move around to accommodate a decent range. Dual monitor and extra trays for things like phones, keyboards, mice, wrist rests, and assorted office supplies. Replacing the desk would be nice but I still don't trust myself to keep a sit stand in stand mode just yet.

It's definitely cozy. I'm in the process of getting a desk mount set up so that I can have a cleaner and more ergonomic setup (the height for the monitors currently is a just a bit too high, but the next level is too low!). Those look intriguing, though I like a nice big slab of desk to sprawl out over so they might not be for me. If you pick one up, let us know how it is and snap some pics!

[xtrafrood]

...

That looks cozy! I'm currently looking at a few monitor arms with trays. They're advertised as sit and stand and they seem to move around to accommodate a decent range. Dual monitor and extra trays for things like phones, keyboards, mice, wrist rests, and assorted office supplies. Replacing the desk would be nice but I still don't trust myself to keep a sit stand in stand mode just yet.

It's definitely cozy. I'm in the process of getting a desk mount set up so that I can have a cleaner and more ergonomic setup (the height for the monitors currently is a just a bit too high, but the next level is too low!). Those look intriguing, though I like a nice big slab of desk to sprawl out over so they might not be for me. If you pick one up, let us know how it is and snap some pics!

I'll certainly grab a few photos of any new setups. My current configuration is a bit of an abomination but it works nonetheless. Yea I can see that regarding the monitor arm sit stand things. Sure would make it easier to use one desk for everything imo

[tp4tissue]

I probably sit for maybe 2-3hrs per week. It would be nice to accommodate a proper sit/stand into the mix even if I don't take advantage of it

Why even computer then...   go buy a horse,   do outside stuff..

I'm not sure I understand your logic. Go buy a horse? Why would I need a horse?

no idea..  i just assumed people who go outside lots would have a horse  , No ?


The only place you could go with a car is costco.. or popeyes fried chicken.

[xtrafrood]

I probably sit for maybe 2-3hrs per week. It would be nice to accommodate a proper sit/stand into the mix even if I don't take advantage of it

Why even computer then...   go buy a horse,   do outside stuff..

I'm not sure I understand your logic. Go buy a horse? Why would I need a horse?

no idea..  i just assumed people who go outside lots would have a horse  , No ?


The only place you could go with a car is costco.. or popeyes fried chicken.

I've never been to Costco and it's been nearly 14 years since the last time I entered a Popeyes.. You should see my ankle bulk though, whoa Momma I've got them muscles now! *whistles* hubba hubba

[malthusthomas]

Maybe it's just me, but I tried Popeyes and thought it was disgusting.

[tp4tissue]

Maybe it's just me, but I tried Popeyes and thought it was disgusting.

You lie...  LIAR.. big fat liar.. 


Popeyes is the epitome of the Human xperience..

[Eraicos]

Have you check the lean chair out? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1133385494/leanchair-the-portable-reclining-standing-desk/description

[tp4tissue]

leaning is still 100% of the weight through ankles, unless that lean chair has a butt cup to take some weight off..

[Eraicos]

leaning is still 100% of the weight through ankles, unless that lean chair has a butt cup to take some weight off..

No, it's not. Some of the weight is distributed on the back. I'd read your first message before you edited it and I think you were right.

[xtrafrood]

I think the point of a standing desk to improve circulation by 'moving around' as you go about with whatever it is that you go about with. LeanChair seems to subtract the 'moving around' aspect of standing. Just a thought.

[tp4tissue]

leaning is still 100% of the weight through ankles, unless that lean chair has a butt cup to take some weight off..

No, it's not. Some of the weight is distributed on the back. I'd read your first message before you edited it and I think you were right.

No

it was wrong..  the FFrictionfloor and Fwall cancels out,  therefore all of FNormal goes through the ankles.

The only slight lightening would be the slight friction against the wall,  but this is miniscule, less than 1% would be reduced.


But if you had a Butt Cup,  it would be much less.  but I can't tell if that thing has a butt cup.

[xtrafrood]

*is

[Eraicos]

leaning is still 100% of the weight through ankles, unless that lean chair has a butt cup to take some weight off..

No, it's not. Some of the weight is distributed on the back. I'd read your first message before you edited it and I think you were right.

No

it was wrong..  the FFrictionfloor and Fwall cancels out,  therefore all of FNormal goes through the ankles.

The only slight lightening would be the slight friction against the wall,  but this is miniscule, less than 1% would be reduced.


But if you had a Butt Cup,  it would be much less.  but I can't tell if that thing has a butt cup.

I don't think so. If the angle was increased progressibly it would reduce the strain on the knees and eventually it would become a bed, so, some weight is reduced. In the kickstarter page they say that they have used it for long time and it reduces the strain and is comfortable. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any review or commentary of people who have used it.

Another option could be to install a treadmill floor to keep walking on the place.

[xtrafrood]

leaning is still 100% of the weight through ankles, unless that lean chair has a butt cup to take some weight off..

No, it's not. Some of the weight is distributed on the back. I'd read your first message before you edited it and I think you were right.

No

it was wrong..  the FFrictionfloor and Fwall cancels out,  therefore all of FNormal goes through the ankles.

The only slight lightening would be the slight friction against the wall,  but this is miniscule, less than 1% would be reduced.


But if you had a Butt Cup,  it would be much less.  but I can't tell if that thing has a butt cup.

I don't think so. If the angle was increased progressibly it would reduce the strain on the knees and eventually it would become a bed, so, some weight is reduced. In the kickstarter page they say that they have used it for long time and it reduces the strain and is comfortable. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any review or commentary of people who have used it.

Another option could be to install a treadmill floor to keep walking on the place.

Or, don't lean and shift your feet around from time to time. It would be so much easier to use a automagical sit/stand desk and keep a chair handy.

[iLLucionist]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

[xtrafrood]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

Automatic?

[iLLucionist]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

Automatic?

Yes, as in, when I hold button its goes up/down.

[SBJ]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

Man I'd love to have this in the office.

[xtrafrood]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

Automatic?

Yes, as in, when I hold button its goes up/down.

Nice, I'm kinda jealous. I'm currently using a plastic shelf that I can move off the desk. Ghetto maybe but serves the same purpose as most place on desk options.

[iLLucionist]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

Automatic?

Yes, as in, when I hold button its goes up/down.

Nice, I'm kinda jealous. I'm currently using a plastic shelf that I can move off the desk. Ghetto maybe but serves the same purpose as most place on desk options.

Yeah well.. Personally, I really don't like standing desks. It feels like being in the pub when I'm standing behind my desk, I don't know. Weird. Perhaps I should get used to it, and soon I can.

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 Standing desk 8 hrs everyday..

+ 100% Veggies @ 10% fats.

= immortanTp4....

[xtrafrood]

I'm getting an adjustable height desk at the office.

Automatic?

Yes, as in, when I hold button its goes up/down.

Nice, I'm kinda jealous. I'm currently using a plastic shelf that I can move off the desk. Ghetto maybe but serves the same purpose as most place on desk options.

Yeah well.. Personally, I really don't like standing desks. It feels like being in the pub when I'm standing behind my desk, I don't know. Weird. Perhaps I should get used to it, and soon I can.

I've stood at packed bars a couple times in sFL. Feels like a house party without all the shenanigans--I can see how that could get old quickly.

[tp4tissue]

If possible, You'd want a SOFT rubber mat , and either barefoot, or Slippers.


Shoes generally compresses ones feet unnaturally,  and may significantly reduce standing duration.

Your feet is meant to spread out to stabilize you, and the bones are not meant to be compacted laterally.


You could have a pair of slippers for your cubical , and wear shoes when you leave..

[tp4tissue]

[xtrafrood]

You would want shoes that a bit wider than your normal shoes (if you can't wear.. slippers..). As I've mentioned before, feet swell. Use a standing desk long enough your feet will 'grow' horizontally.

[iLLucionist]

If possible, You'd want a SOFT rubber mat , and either barefoot, or Slippers.


Shoes generally compresses ones feet unnaturally,  and may significantly reduce standing duration.

Your feet is meant to spread out to stabilize you, and the bones are not meant to be compacted laterally.


You could have a pair of slippers for your cubical , and wear shoes when you leave..

I mean ffs.. "standing desk is better, you only need to change frequently, preferable move on a sitting cylcle, have a soft mat, have soft shoes, have wide shoes, also walk in between"

It's like "it is better in all ways, you only need to change everything coz it's better than sitting"

I think it is hype. Sitting at desk, but keeping posture AND changing position and walking every half hour (which will happen anyway if you drink cofee and thus needs to get coffee and pee) is still best.

[tp4tissue]

I mean ffs.. "standing desk is better, you only need to change frequently, preferable move on a sitting cylcle, have a soft mat, have soft shoes, have wide shoes, also walk in between"

It's like "it is better in all ways, you only need to change everything coz it's better than sitting"

I think it is hype. Sitting at desk, but keeping posture AND changing position and walking every half hour (which will happen anyway if you drink cofee and thus needs to get coffee and pee) is still best.

Always standing could be just as bad as always sitting.


But , overall,  Sitting  is something like wearing a corset..